Money Not Collected
The City Council’s most powerful alderman suggested Friday that Chicago privatize the collection of city ambulance fees to raise a dismal 37.5 percent collection rate that has created a $50 million-a-year debt.
Finance Committee Chairman Edward M. Burke (14th) described the ambulance fee debt as “low-hanging fruit” that would go a long way toward maintaining Chicago Fire Department operations at a time when Mayor Rahm Emanuel has demanded a 20 percent cut.
“If private ambulance operators in Illinois can collect their fees, the Fire Department needs to investigate whether or not privatizing that function would be helpful. I’m not talking about a collection agency. That’s after-the-fact a year down the line. I’m talking about current collections,” Burke said.
As for Emanuel’s vow to wring $15 million in unpaid water bills from four impoverished suburbs — Harvey, Robbins, Dolton and Maywood — Burke essentially said, good luck.
“How do you enforce collection? We can’t very well turn off their water so that the poor citizens out there can’t exist,” he said.
ComEd cuts off electric if you don't pay for it.
Peoples Gas (or whatever they call themselves nowadays) shuts off your gas if you don't pay them for it. In fact, they'll send out a crew to dig up the city street and shut off the gas at the curb if you circumvent their meters.
We noticed the other day that Shell, Mobil, BP and Citgo have stopped giving away free gasoline - you have to pay them for it or you don't get it.
We even read a story last year about a Fire Protection District that refused (that's right, REFUSED) to put out a fire in a private dwelling that wasn't part of their coverage area. They only showed up to make sure the fire didn't spread to neighbors who actually paid for the Fire Protection.
Shut off the water and make a judge enforce payment. The leeches are cheating Chicago taxpayers out of infrastructure we paid to create and maintain. What are Harvey, Robbins, Dolton and Maywood going to do? Invade?
Labels: money questions
posted by SCC at 7:01 AM
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scc u raised a good point. If the residents of those communities need to drink water there is always bottled water from walmart.
Good luck on collecting those ambulance fees! The POS people who use EMS as their personal medical provider won't or can't pay.
And Medicaide/medicare pay only cents on the dollar. We would get a check for 11 cents on a $600 ambulance bill - it would cost us more to process the check than to toss it - and it cost the government more to issue the check than it was worth.
OT-SCC-Whether or not your community agrees or disagrees with the below two examples, I firmly believe that with your position in the law enforcement community and popularity with the officers,SCC can easily get 5000 signatures within the 30 days. The challenge: pick a topic that Obama will be forced to address. Topics such as Bill Cozzi, something on the new Superintendent.
Again, the below is a copy and paste from the web, feel free to edit this as many people do not want to read long posts, especially cut and pastes.
SCC-pick a topic, post it, and let the clicks away, all the way to 5000!
Earlier this month, the White House launched “We The People“, a website for submitting petitions to the prez (a right guaranteed by the First Amendment). Per Obama’s pledge to make the government more open and accountable, the site will provide “a new way to petition the Obama Administration to take action on a range of important issues facing our country,” according to Whitehouse.gov. “If a petition gets enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure it’s sent to the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response.”
At this point, “enough support” = 5,000 signatures in 30 days. If you have a petition that gets the attention of a community like Reddit, that’s pretty easy to achieve, meaning the White House is going to need to tell people why marijuana hasn’t been legalized and why the TSA hasn’t been abolished.
Three weeks into its launch, there are already eight petitions that will warrant a response from the White House per its own rules. The site appears to have attracted civil libertarians, pro-marijuana advocates, and atheists. The most popular petition with almost 20,000 signatures petitions the gov to “Legalize and Regulate Marijuana in a Manner Similar to Alcohol.” The petitioner writes: “Marijuana prohibition has resulted in the arrest of over 20 million Americans since 1965, countless lives ruined and hundreds of billions of tax dollars squandered and yet this policy has still failed to achieve its stated goals of lowering use rates, limiting the drug’s access, and creating safer communities. Isn’t it time to legalize and regulate marijuana in a manner similar to alcohol?”
A petition created yesterday calling for the abolition of the TSA has already garnered over 7,000 signatures:
The Transportation Security Administration has been one of the largest, most expensive and most visible blunders of the post-9-11 homeland security reformation. It has violated countless constitutional rights of average Americans, caused miserable and expensive delays in an already-overburdened air travel system, and allowed multiple known instances of harassment, theft, extortion and sexual abuse by its employees. It has failed approximately 70% of undercover efficacy tests, and for all its excesses, has been unable to catch even a single terrorist since its creation. In our current economic situation, we can no longer afford to continue wasting taxpayer dollars on this kafkaesque embarrassment. Let us instead invest in saner, more effective solutions.
via Abolish the TSA, and use its monstrous budget to fund more sophisticated, less intrusive counter-terrorism intelligence. | The White House.
According to the White House, they will respond to petitions in a “timely manner,” which it defines here as a “few weeks.”
Other petitioners would like “Under God” excised from the Pledge of Allegiance and “In God We Trust” removed from U.S. money, and to have a fraud conviction re-examined. Alex Howard has an excellent backgrounder on the new e-petitions, wondering whether they will lead the feds to take real action in response, or if it’s just “gov 2.0 theater.” It’s nice to see that “Internet people” now have their own way to lobby the government. And the way that it’s been set up means that it will be much harder for the administration to evade questions it’s uncomfortable answering.
Too late they already invaded.
They can keep their water only if they promise to vote for Rahm!
Hey if some one that does not even LIVE here can get free water, *I* want free water too!
How dare you ask Rahm's voting block to pay for those bambulance rides! That's racist! We need to redistribute the wealth to the voters who will keep the thieves in power, not ask them to pay for the bambulance!
What we need to do is give away more free things to the voting block and then tell the taxpayers that they need to pay more taxes to support that. Now that's a plan.
They might,It'll be like the book of Eli,trading valuables for water! Those savages!
So Burke is delinquent in doing his job for decades and now he's got the nerve to say collecting the money owed to Chicago would be a hardship on the deadbeats.
Once again, for g-d's sake, take that assholes bodyguards away!
I can imagine how fucking ballistic Burke must go on the few occassions he's shorted out of a Nickle.
Buck Naked
(not a cop)
Ok, think about if it was Chicago. You, Joe Blow citizen pay your water bill consistently but the city burns your money on other bs. Sounds familiar? Do you think that your water should be turned off?
Your house is paid off and you like where you live for whatever reason. So up and leaving is out of the question. You are clueless if you believe Chicago is current on their bills!
This never showed up at Rahm's budget idea website.
www.chicagobudget.org under Public safety
What shown up are merit promotions, take home vehicles, cutting exempt positions and individuals detailed to tssk forces.
It is possible to vote on these ideas and leave uncensored comments.
How long has McCarthy been here? I know it's been awhile and really what has he done? NOTHING! No command changes whatsoever and unless i missed them, has he implemented any new policies? The answer is NO. I think we have another underqualified outsider running CPD. Next time let's keep it within house.
Did the Officer involved in the deadly free for all at the hospital last week file a SAFETY GRIEVANCE? I'm talking about the murderer who smashed the glass shelf over the nurses head and tried to disarm and kill the SINGLE Officer who had to guard him.
No one wants to be 'that guy' who files the grievance, but you may be a life saver in the literal sense. I know it kind of puts a target on your back, but that is only for a short while, bosses forget quickly. What the heck. The Department isn't promoting anyway.
If this guy or gal doesn't, or can't for some reason; maybe some other poor Officer assigned to watch a prisoner by themself can file that grievance. Some copper, or some hospital employee will get hurt or killed because of this policy.
Knowing how Shitcago runs things there's probably paperwork already being filed forming the new Ed Burke ambulance fee collection agency. Of which Ed's bodyguard detail with be used to collect the fees.
The people that live there payed for water. The villages cant pay the city? BS
What do they all have in common? The common element calls 911 for everything, and suffer NO consequences. The common element is accustomed to receiving the bulk of its existence from the Gov't, yet blames the very same Gov't for its problems. The common element drains the public troughs, but never replenches it. Now the well is going dry.
Burke again? I'm sick of reading about Burke. He has all these wonderful ideas and opinions, but none address the issue of cutting his own City funded security detail. That would save plenty.
Liberals would go ballistic if we cut off the water to the "poor"...
But, hey. I'm sure our air is drifting out to the suburbs. Why don't we charge them for that infrastructure, as well? After all, wasn't it our tax dollars that paid for all the flower boxes in the streets that now create the photosynthesis needed to take the carbon dioxide out of the air and turn it into oxygen?
Come on, Rahm! Get our $$$ back from those freeloaders... just don't give it away to the illegals when you get it!!!
Careful with the invasion comments. Don't give the residents of Harvey, Robbins, Dolton and Maywood any ideas. Many of the idiots who live in those suburbs are dumb enough to try it.
shut the water off , chicago ' s not the bad guy , it's the corrupt black politicians ,
privatize emt service in chicago
private ambulance emt and paramedics make $12 an hour , big savings for chicago.
Cut off water to dead beat suburbs and more people will move back to chicago.
Ummm, what you overlook, the leeches vote the straight democRAT ticket. So they will be allowed to continue to steal our water.
Rahm , fire whoever was in charge of collections from these suburbs.
This should have been handled 1 or 2 months after payments were due .
Here's a suggestion , require all payments from next month to be paid directly to city .
Put a lein on gov't owned property
in these towns .
Shut the water off now , why are chicago citizens paying bills for these ghetto suburbs.
OT - but speaking of money...
As a retired pensioner, I have more time to observe the world around me. I have come to the conclusion that EVERYONE, ie. the government, the insurance companies, corporations, grocery stores, tradesmen and anyone else that I encounter in life has one goal and one goal only... to separate me from every penny that I have!
Heard this from a friend the other day. Her husband went to the emergency room and his insurance only covered generic medication as part of the ER treatment. AFTER leaving the ER, and NOT having a drug prescription plan, the meds that he needed were brand name only (no substitutions per the ER Dr), and cost him hundreds of dollars...
Let's review:
When the insurance company is on the hook, the cheapest cost and materials are passed on. When the PATIENT has to pay, they bang him for every penny they can think to charge him.
Think the doctors, hospitals, insurance companies and drug makers aren't in some kind of ugly smarmy corrupted relationship?
Think again!
I had an $800 ambulance bill I TRIED to pay and couldn't. CFD sent me an invoice and I returned insurance information. 3 months later I got a call from a collections agency because the insurance claim was denied. I tried to pay the CFD directly but said I couldn't because it went to collections.
I asked collections for a copy of the bill. Another 3 months passed then they said CFD couldn't find the record so I didn't have to pay.
How do you shut off the water at a home?
You need a tool to turn it off on the front parkway.
ANY shithead can aquire the tool to turn it BACK on.
An ambulance is usually a "free taxi" to the hospital.
Don't worry.
Rahm will just raise the rates of the towns that actually pay their Chicago water bills in order to cover all of the leeches in those free-loading towns.
It's the Chicago-Obama way of redistribution of wealth.
“How do you enforce collection? We can’t very well turn off their water so that the poor citizens out there can’t exist,” Alderman Burke
"Maggie has served this city for years and this is the decent thing to do," he said. "This is a small, minor token of our appreciation. We're not just the city of big shoulders; we're the city of big hearts.". Rahm Emanuel
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What really sickens me, isn't so much how they abuse their elected positions to enrich themselves or create little empires to satisfy their lust for power, while they grasp for more. Unfortunately, I've come to expect just that from politicians in general and Illinois politicians in particular. It isn't even how they misappropriate public funds & services or use their positions to bestow favor upon family & friends, or hurt someone who has displeased them. Nor sadly, it isn't even how they've completely subverted the democratic process here in Chicago.
What really sickens me is their faux piety. A day does not go by without one of them clamoring to portrait himself as an "everyday man" or "just an ordinary Joe". They are so sure of their innate charm, or perhaps our gullibility that they continuously piss upon us while maintaining that its the rain.
Let them buy bottled water. Most of these people don't bathe anyway.
Does he actually think the non- working, welfare collecting, call for an ambulance because my head hurts idiots are going to pay for ambulance fees??? HAHA. They have been abusing the ambulance system for years and have never paid a dime. What is the mayor going to do; go after their credit? These voulchers of society don't have any credit! It is because they call for an ambulance everytime they have a headache or stomach ache that it takes an ambulance 30 mins to get to a real emergency. Just like everything else, let them keep getting everything for free while dumbasses like us keep working and getting screwed with taxes.
white black hispanic and a citizen of chicago , don't pay your water bill for a year and city will shut you off. Rahm , there should be mass firings in water collection dept , heads must roll .
show us what you're made of balerina man
Invade? Died laughing!!
Burke, and the rest of the incompetent CROOKago Politicians who allowed this to happen should be held accountable for the balance of money owed, as they are the co-signers on that Loan.
SCC, I told you a long time ago that when I worked at Revenue as a temp I noticed a lot of accounts in the various areas of our city departments were not paid.
I posted this on the Chicago ideas site but hey, let this dumb city continue to use management that doesn't have the appropriate skills...
This type of crisis management is exactly why the city must end the career politician nonsense in Chicago.
VOTE THEM OUT!
Demand term limits!
Cut their bloated numbers in half.
They seem to spend more time working on the next campaign fund raiser for themselves rather than doing the jobs that they were hired to do.
Does this mean police should also do not provide service to non tax payers?
If you live in Chicago and nearly all suburbs getting city water if you don't pay your water will be shut off. No doubt about it. I can only think that the city will not press payment becasue these are minority suburbs that are behind in payment. Burke is such a hypocrite. Why doesn't he pay the city for his free limo, free gas, and city police body guards. What an asshole. Arrogant and certainly CHEAP!
Should have a data base and start thumb printing/scanning them and if they don't pay then next time they can call a westside ambulance(friends car). Problem solved. Move on to the next item.
WRT: "The City Council’s most powerful alderman suggested Friday that Chicago privatize the collection of city ambulance fees to raise a dismal 37.5 percent collection rate that has created a $50 million-a-year debt."
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Well golly gee whiz Batman,
$50 million dollars a year is pretty damn close to $1 million dollars a week...and $1 million dollars a week is $142,857.14 a day!
Wait a minute...it all makes sense now. The city don't want to stop the shootings because they are seen as a revenue generating source.
***POP***POP***POP***
ka-ching...ka-ching...kah-ching
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WRT: "Burke essentially said, good luck. “How do you enforce collection? We can’t very well turn off their water so that the poor citizens out there can’t exist,” he said"
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We wonder how you enforce collection of ambulance services for the shooting victims of the poor communities. I'd wager that's where a large percentage of this unpaid ambulance bill originates.
Maybe if the "powerful alderman" of this city were to do the right thing and give up his taxpayer funded private bodyguards and drivers so we could have a few more cops on the street there would be less people riding in ambulances and overcrowding hospital ER rooms demanding services that they are unable to pay for.
Let's look at one of the root causes of the problem Mr Burks, not the diversions.
Let's see you don't pay your water and live in this city you are warned they shut off quickly! How did this bill get so high? was it ever followed up on? eddie burke what say you? You guys go after the taxpayers constantly but never the welfare leeches or all the illegals you give away "our" money to,demorats another reason barry obama lost the house and senate next the presidency in 2012 goes back to responsible people,and the cleaning out from this bad experiment is over! Thank GOD!
Why is this information on-line? And why does IAPA put it out there?
http://www.iapa-il.org/resources/resources.htm
"We even read a story last year about a Fire Protection District that refused (that's right, REFUSED) to put out a fire in a private dwelling that wasn't part of their coverage area. They only showed up to make sure the fire didn't spread to neighbors who actually paid for the Fire Protection." -- SCC
...but there is plenty of money to endlessly subsidize welfare breeders and illegal aliens in a "Sanctuary City" based upon refusal to enforce the law of the land. Chicago continues to draw them in from thousands of miles away despite the fact that the jobs have dried up here.
Illinois instructs welfare applicants who phone in to "Listen for the language options of English, Arabic, Chinese, Polish, Spanish, or Urdu."
Let the people's house burn down. F__k 'em. First things first.
Perhaps we could let them slide on their water bills if they aggreed to take what remains of the CHA residents into their towns. Turn around and sell those new fancy units built for them in Chicago.
Who uses ambulances more? The tax paying, insured or the non insured, non working? An ambulance run is $600.00, I know my little boy cracked his head in playground and they took him to hospital. We should charge for police service. All the ball parks, festivals and B.S. calls. say $100.00 to solve your domestic issue with no arrest. Or a $100.00 for a burglary report you refused to go into station for.
How about city tow trucks relocate a veh to free up traffic, $100.00 billed to your insurance company. no insurance, impound vehicle until fee is paid.
OT
Good for thee, but not for me
Hypocrite Crook County commissioners don't want to take THEIR Furlo days
http://tinyurl.com/3khfdcb
"Finance Committee Chairman Edward M. Burke (14th) described the ambulance fee debt as “low-hanging fruit...”
Yeah, working people with one name on the mailbox and one fixed address are like that, easy targets -- keep sending the meter maids out to 016 at 4 AM to look in driveways for truck stickers whenever you need money for new birdhouses or roof gardens or something important like that. We'll put up with you forever.
You know, when someone is this big of an outright asshole - when he has this much classic Daley-style hatred and contempt for the public -- I'm not surprised that he wants six armed men around him at all times.
Careful with that loose talk about "hanging," you motherfucker.
Jesus Christ. Pay taxes all your life, and maybe later on you simply fall down the front steps getting the newspaper or have a heart attack shoveling your walk like the city says you're supposed to, and this bastard wants to set the dogs and the sheisters on you right that minute for even ONCE using a service which the welfare breeders ring for without a thought every day and night as nothing more than a large, colorful free taxicab to haul their useless, gasping, moaning 400 pounds of dirt-induced asthma and soda-induced sugar diabetes and French-fry-induced hardening of the arteries and boyfriend-induced ectopic pregnancy -- or general environmentally-caused bullet holes and razor wounds -- down 16 flights of stairs to clog up the emergency room again. And again.
It don't pay to fly straight, huh?
Bravo SCC
One of the things the city needs to do is make all water payments come directly to the city of chicago until all the money owed is paid. We should collect right from the citizens of those towns from here on.
"What are Harvey, Robbins, Dolton and Maywood going to do? Invade?"
Got to find their ass with both hands first.
Any place where you trip over old tires discarded on the sidewalk on a main shopping street, well...
Oh. How much money did Maywood lose this summer on that FreakNic or WoodFest or whatever it was, "big event" that drew like 300 coppers on OT and maybe 50 actual participants? Ha.
Empty red-hots bag blowing down the gutter.
Crickets.
Taxpayers picked up the bill again, huh? Damn.
you really thing the dogass politicos in harvey and robbings are going to pay chicago a single dime???? ahhahahaha, yeah right.
Guess we don't have to pay our water bills?
Will anyone ask publicly where is all the money from the Skyway and Parking meters? Daley gone and so are billions! Rahm keeps crying poor mouth and keeps trying to "divide and conquer" with all the unions! Notice the "city Rags" hammering at pensions and using school kids as "extortion?" Turning the public against those who worked for 25-30+ years! The words "Vested AND tenure" are now derogatory! It now is synonymous for "old and lazy!"
If they did invade wiping those slum suburbs of the face of the earth wouldn't be bad. Just a thought.
As much, as I "HATE", to agree with the "GOOD" alderman, on anything,he's right. Chicago can't just shut off their water. Truth is now that the "dye is cast" they will never pay Chicago for water again. What can we do ? How about threatening to shut off their water ? Yes, the State of Illinois, or The Federal Government, will have to start paying Chicago for their water. If these municipalities are broke, someone has to pay their bills, and not the Chicago Taxpayers. Wait, how about the "GOOD" alderman paying for their water ? He can certainly afford it. It would be a good way he could "get right with g-d".
"With all our rage, We are still, just rats, in a cage"
OT:
Greek Crisis Comes 24 Centuries After First Default
Come Monday morning I'm not so sure that the US markets are going to like this.
...and like Greece we are not in much better shape either with the city, state and country debts being what they are.
Just get a Judge to order a payment plan with interest and directly take the money from the suburban coffers.
I know those suburbs are somewhat akin to the depopulated areas of the south and west sides, but they need to pay their bills.
After the Shaw brothers left Roseland and followed the black population out to Dolton they took their creative city ways out to what should could have remained an ok working class burb.
The corruption in some of the burbs would make Chicago pols jealous.
http://archive.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/01/former-niles-mayor-nicholas-blase-sentenced.html
Blase was a Dem and he would probably be jealous of some of the stuff that goes on among south suburban pols.
Once again hammering the taxpayers and coddling the leeches.
So the moral of the story is that we don't have to pay our water bills either? How does this city continue to cry poor, but refuse to collect money due for using our precious resources?!?!?
Get las to collect
OT: Preview of the G8,Nato party!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VzOUKODdZ4
Burke is a moron, and we all know it.
If we can't collect on the water bill, but we can privatize the ambulance collections...wait...what?
Can someone drug test that stupid fuck?
THE MAYOR /ALDERMAN/ AND EVEN ARE EXEMPT REALLY DONT GIVE A RATS ASS WHAT ANYTHING COST.
THE REASON BEING ITS NOT THEIR MONEY.
WE WILL SEE VERY SOON PROPERTY TAXES RAISED AGAIN ON UNDERVALUED HOMES.
AND THE DOPE FIENDS AND WELFARE MOMS THEY WILL RECEIVE FREE HEALTH CARE AND LODGING PLUS FOOD AND A CELL PHONE ADD IN THE FREE EDUCATION THEY DONT USE.
AND WE WORRY ABOUT ARE PENSION!!!
AND HEAVEN FORBID IF YOU ARE INJURED ON THE JOB THE CITY WOULD SPEND MILLIONS FIGHTING U.
YEA I CARE IF A DISTRICT CLOSES.
HOW ABOUT CLOSING THOSE HOMELESS SHELTERS?
BUNCH OF ASSHATS
Trigger happy chicago police strike again today.....
today at 77th and ada in 006 the police are called to a large battery in progress call on the 7700 block of ada. upon arrival, a gunman opens fire on the officers with an AK-47 assault rifle!!!! Due to the numerous bystanders and citizens in the street from the prior disturbance the officers used restrain and did not return fire to ensue no bystanders were hit... bad guy still at large, AK-47 recovered. but hey, were all just a bunch of gun wielding crazymen who shoot first and ask questions later. good work officers, glad everyone is ok.
A link to the democratic thought on government
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xd_zkMEgkI
Hey Look! a little insight into the selection process for the superintendent of police for the city of chicago!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=zP0sqRMzkwo&feature=fvwp
We'll just have to raise taxes again in Chicago that's all.
Ring-up Obama and have him play that FICA payroll tax game again with the State here.
The money can come out of everyone's social security and no-one will notice until it's time to collect your retirement and there's no money.
Did the Officer involved in the deadly free for all at the hospital last week file a SAFETY GRIEVANCE? I'm talking about the murderer who smashed the glass shelf over the nurses head and tried to disarm and kill the SINGLE Officer who had to guard him.
What hospital???
How do you shut off the water at a home?
You need a tool to turn it off on the front parkway.
ANY shithead can aquire the tool to turn it BACK on.
9/24/2011 10:37:00 AM
All the city needs to do is turn off the main leading to these suburbs. But they will never do it.
Collect from whom? Perhaps add the bill to the residence tax bill or a lien on any money they get might work. Id say when pigs fly i guess thats a budget cut though sorry helicoper 1-2 i think we need them
How about cut the aldermen in half. Do they really need fifty of them with thier thieving paws in the pockets of tax payers and businessmen? Bunch of f-ing pimps
first off, if the city's policy wasn't to transport EVERYONE regardless of whether it's necessary, then they wouldn't be abusing EMS and using it as a taxi service for doctor's appointments. other major cities deny transport if it's not medically necessary.
second, Burke needs to get his head out of his ass. the city has privatized EMS collections since the early 1990's. revenue dept. used to bill and collect and they outsourced it. you'd think he'd look into it before grandstanding. oh never mind, it is Burke after all.
Stop the water supply if the bust-out suburbs don't pay. The city would cut our water off in a snap. Otherwise, instead of having the customers pay their city, bill them directly from our debt of revenue, if they don't pay, cut it off. Some of these customers may have actually paid their suburb the water bill and the suburb is pocketing the money and not passing it on to Chicago.
Take the bambulance fees out of their LINK, Section 8, SSi and disability payments. Maybe they will think twice call 911 for every cough and sore throat.
9/24/2011 07:27:00 AM
I hope you are a young student (before you are old enough to know better) trying to "do the 'right thing' - in theory",... if you are an adult...you are a little too late for dinner...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why is this information on-line? And why does IAPA put it out there?
http://www.iapa-il.org/resources/resources.htm
9/24/2011 12:25:00 PM
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If you're so upset, why are you putting it out there again?
9/24/2011 08:55:00 AM
Don't worry, he is soon to announce a Shields promotion...
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Careful with the invasion comments. Don't give the residents of Harvey, Robbins, Dolton and Maywood any ideas. Many of the idiots who live in those suburbs are dumb enough to try it.
9/24/2011 09:37:00 AM
have them "come on with it...can't wait!"
ED Burke Chairman of Finance denies IOD claims on a continual basis. Long past his usefulness retire already
Until I was in a car accident two years, I had no idea that towns charged for ambulance service.
I thought that was part of the taxes I paid for the fire department.
Makes no sense to charge for medical emergencies. However, if not an emergency person should be told about the charge and given an option to obtain other means of transportation.
Yes, for the Link crowd, they will just take the ambulance since no way they will have to pay.
As a tangent, the fees charged are outrageous, but since insurance will cover it, the price is inflated. An example of why the cost of health care is so high.
There would be no "Budget Crisis" if these useless no taxpaying air stealing ghetto dwellers would pay taxes.
There would be no "Budget Crisis" if these useless no taxpaying air stealing ghetto dwellers would pay taxes.
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In what world do they produce anything that would allow them to pay taxes? You cannot get blood out of a turnip and there are no taxes to be paid by those who produce nothing and serve no useful purpose. Just the way it is.
The city has money to waste? Are the really worried about water? All summer long, 24 hours a day the water at the childrens spray pool at Mckiernan Park was spraying into the wind. Several calls to the park district no action taken. We have water bills doesn't the park district?
OT:
Someone on the 41st ward blog is suggesting the people who live in the 41st ward sue the city and the mayor for lack of police protection.
To be politically correct:
You cant tell me that they cant reduce the flow of water? Let the City Water department apply for a Green grant and cut down the flow and make the deadbeats ration. Give them the minimum water ration per person, and lets see if they can go Green! If they are environmental hogs, then let the water run out. Instead of flushing, let them compost. Hand out booklets on water rationing and how to compost. The EPA would love 'em. Heck, they could get a government grant check to pay for this. WIN WIN! Government jobs, less water used, the city gets paid, and you have happy liberals.
Anyone have a map of ambulance calls by ward/demographics?
If I currently pay my taxes and it goes to all city departments, why then do I have to pay a charge to be taken to the hospital? Is this double taxation?
Not long ago the suntimes did a couple of stories about burke, 1 was about how his water bill was lower than almost everyone in his area,even though he lives in a huge mansion. Another was about his exceptionally low property taxes! how does he justify that?
"Why is this information on-line? And why does IAPA put it out there?"
http://www.iapa-il.org/resources/resources.htm
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"If you're so upset, why are you putting it out there again?"
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He's just scared that someone is going to be able to actually read the Chicago Municipal Code or the Illinois Compiled Statutes.
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"As a retired pensioner, I have more time to observe the world around me. I have come to the conclusion that EVERYONE, ie. the government, the insurance companies, corporations, grocery stores, tradesmen and anyone else that I encounter in life has one goal and one goal only... to separate me from every penny that I have!"
--9/24/2011 10:10:00 AM
Precisely.
That is because America is running on fumes -- on the last remaining vestiges of the postwar prosperity of the 1950s.
The "Greatest Generation" IS THE TARGET. They were the last generation that created wealth through physical production of goods, and the last generation to save money.
As you can see, they are bound and determined to get every penny of that cash money -- they will increase property taxes and raise fees and rates and double the cost of your medications until you die under the load.
They cannot think past that point -- but no matter. The collapse has already overtaken them.
Lake Street, for example, was once a roaring manufacturing district where the lights burned night and day. The "L" there was not built to serve the miles of glass-strewn vacant lots you see today, but for people to ride to and from "work."
A few condominiums and a few night clubs have proven to be no viable replacement.
Now, the neat brick home bought by one man working, say, as a toolmaker has five or six different names Scotch-taped to the mailbox, a whole assortment of cars parked on the front lawn and in the backyard, and a mountain of food waste and used diapers erupting out the back; there are twenty, thirty people living in there, drawn across the border by the blandishments of free everything in the "Sanctuary City."
Ah, but when the census worker knocks -- dead silence, no movement anywhere.
Those in power do not care for your standards or your ethics or your morals or your culture -- all that is being mocked, laughed at, spat on. To wit -- Norman Lear's vicious, corrosive All In The Family.
You're right. All they want is your money.
HAHAHA!!!! The reason the CFD has so many outstanding ambulance bills is because the OEMC sends an ambulance out for EVERYTHING. 40 years ago, there were few ambulances in the city, and the ones that existed were to transport firemen that were hurt at fires. Are people sicker now than they were 40 years ago? Of course not.... people are lazier. Call 911 for a 'free' ride to the 'doctor's office' (Emergency Room). The abusers are not the average citizen either, I can't remember the last time I saw an ambulance on my block, yet I assume my neighbors get sick and visit the doctor also. I wonder what would happen if these people were just told 'NO'....on a variety of expected services.
private collection for ambulance fees = kick backs chicago pay to play
chicago residents should receive free water if the black suburbs don't have to pay
9/24/2011 11:00:00 AM
Blame Alderman Willie Cochran's Niece at Revenue.
You can't turn off the water to a whole suburb because of non-payment; Make the resident prove they made payments, keep their water on. If the residents are making payment to the village for the water, the village is at fault for non-payment, but the money is still there. If the people pay for the water and the government turns it off, good job making yourself no better than Saddam.
Come on already. If we're late you would shut us off in a minute. But here's a clue, don't shut them off, inform them that their galloons per minute will be reduced by 100,000 gallons every day until their bill is paid. Then they may know that you mean business.
"You can't turn off the water to a whole suburb because of non-payment; Make the resident prove they made payments, keep their water on. If the residents are making payment to the village for the water, the village is at fault for non-payment, but the money is still there."
--9/25/2011 08:39:00 PM
Yeah, good point about "collective punishment" when the real problem is in the Town Hall.
Just like good renters who pay their rent but then get thrown into the street because the POS landlord was going out to the riverboats with the money instead of using it to pay the mortgage on the place, and the joint gets foreclosed.
This is outright theft from the tenants, who are paying for a place to live.
There should be a "No Surprises" ordinance requiring the bank to mail each renter a receipt every month showing that the mortgage money has been deposited on their building. Perhaps rent checks in mortaged buildings should be sent directly to the bank, instead of passing through the landlord's hands first.
Government entities are engaged in a fraud and nobody is going to do anything about it? Sounds like a case for the US Attorney, somebody is getting paid and it isn't us.
OEMC should simply be abolished. God help Chicago if the city gets hit by a true disaster and these political hacks are in charge.
To the man on pension who believes that everyone is out to seperate you from your money! I'm very sorry to hear it took you until retirement to figure that out. I'm 62 years old and I sort of guessed that in 1962!
Isn't the mayor of dolton a former chicago cop and a brother to a chicago alderman?
OEMC should simply be abolished. God help Chicago if the city gets hit by a true disaster and these political hacks are in charge.
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is there a different set of political hacks you would prefer be in charge?
It might well be that Chicago does not have any good options for enforcing payment for water supplied to other municipalities. you might want to check out whatever enabling legislation created a mess where a bunch of suburbs are dependent on Chicago for their water.
the reality of charging for ambulance rides is that people that have no money can't pay. the fire dept is like every other city dept. they do not really care much about how whatever "services" they perform get paid for as long as their own paychecks keep coming in. it is usually advantageous to a bureaucrat for their little empires to get expanded, and there is very little incentive for them to be reduced.
The challenge: pick a topic that Obama will be forced to address. Topics such as Bill Cozzi, something on the new Superintendent.
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These are both inherently local issues that Obama is not going to address in any way, nor should he.
Should Obama address the potholes in front of your house too?
guess what This is the Communist City of Chicago in action for decades, in a nut-shell. Buying votes with Taxpayers Dollars, by giving out stuff that they never expect to be paid back for, then standing there saying, "What?" How were WE supposed to know they wouldn't pay us? All phony socialism, re-distribution of Wealth, in a form that many don't realize. Chicago has been Communist for DECADES... YOU, the Taxpayer, have been being SWINDLED, for decades. And, still, you never learn. Why not just take your money to the top of Sears/Willis Tower, and drop it into the wind?
Should Obama address the potholes in front of your house too?
9/26/2011 10:30:00 AM
so, we're calling them 'potholes' now?
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