Friday, October 21, 2011

Can We Nail This Down?

This might eventually be the truth:
  • There is a memo floating around out there from the ever flamboyant JL outlining the pending changes. 19 and 23 merging but the building is staying open. 21 split between 2 and 1, and 13 combining with 12. The areas will be south - 4,5,6,7, and 22. Central will be 2,3,8,9,10,11,and 18. The remainder will be North. North patrol area offices will be in 25, Central in 10 and south in 5. Det will come out of Belmont and Western - North (no they are not closing the bldg), 51st - Central and 111th st - South. Not rumor, fact. Saw it in writing, just not sure how to upload the file or I would. Also, Capt's have agreed to become XO's. One XO per commander and 5 inspectors. Lt.'s to become watch co-ordinators, not watch commanders. No extra pay, just more responsibility. The rest is yet to be seen. Hang on with both hands, it is going to be a wild ride.
It pieces together a lot of stuff we've seen, what other people have seen and what's been e-mailed or commented on.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

This will increase the retirements for next year. Time to pull the plug before May!!!

10/21/2011 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heard the same about a week ago from a good source....the only thing that doesn't make sense is what will happen to area 4. Not the Dic's but the building. Obviously 011 will still be there but what are they doing w/ the second floor? My thought is that perhaps there was a mistake and the central patrol HQ will be out of "old" area 4 not 010. The other two patrol HQ's(South and North) are supposed to be in area bldgs.

10/21/2011 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you saw it on paper??? south will be out of 10?? get it right. The area is in 011! at harrison and kedzie. Before you go and have your "you heard it here first" rumor make sure your facts are correct.

10/21/2011 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JL, jennifer lopez, I mean she is hot but is she really flamboyant and should she be making department policy?

10/21/2011 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is Garry Mcarthy in fact could be Rahm Mcarthy and Wysinger. Great Supt! Supporting laying off P.O.'s. For those still in denial it will get much worse. This has been planned out and Im saying it again pensions will be cut. Current employees are not immune maybe not even those retiring in the near future. Illinois and California are in the worst shape. They are pretty much the U.S. versions of Europes Greece. I linked to these back when this guy was hired.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WBKjcyi8Kw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH53CZarUbA

10/21/2011 01:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI-Lieutenants HAVE NOT agreed to be Watch Coordinators or to give up their contractual out of grade pay. This may be part of the departments' master plan to save money.

10/21/2011 04:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the dept. hopes to fire anyone who doesn't show up for roll call because they don't know where they are working anymore. Is this the evil plan?

10/21/2011 04:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you saw it on paper??? south will be out of 10?? get it right. The area is in 011! at harrison and kedzie. Before you go and have your "you heard it here first" rumor make sure your facts are correct.

And yet you sign this Anonymous? If you know better why don't you sign your name to it?

10/21/2011 05:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What happened to 001???

10/21/2011 06:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So all media outlets, Rham it up our asses, and Mc box of rocks keep telling us crime is down on all levels and we don't need more cops, THEN WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY CHANGING THE CURRENT POLICE DEPARTMENT?

No matter what the changes will be, MY MONEY IS ON THE TROOPS to figure out a way to fuck the company.

They are trying to fuck all coppers from the PO's to the Commander, we are all blue on the inside and we ALL need to stick together. FUCK THESE CARPET BAGGERS!

Probably would have been a good idea to march on City Hall or McCormick Place during this Chief of Police Conference!

10/21/2011 06:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
you saw it on paper??? south will be out of 10?? get it right. The area is in 011! at harrison and kedzie. Before you go and have your "you heard it here first" rumor make sure your facts are correct.

And yet you sign this Anonymous? If you know better why don't you sign your name to it?

10/21/2011 05:43:00 AM

If you're so fucking bold, why the fuck are you Anonymous, too? Asswipe. BTW I'm Anonymous ... and proud to be so.

10/21/2011 07:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Snappers Scallon Lives! said...

Saw a District Command/Area break down.

North: 11,14,15,16,17,20,23,24,25
Central: 1,7,8,9,10,12,18
South: 2,3,4,5,6,22

The curious thing is that in the Mayor's budget, the amount of commanders is going up from 25 to 29.

10/21/2011 07:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lt. do not have to give up rights bon the issue, they have none. The department has an out nas usual.

10/21/2011 07:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perhaps by renaming the watch commanders and giving them more responsibiity the plan will be to then look at whether or not the position is still elgible for union membership. I'd be very careful with this if I were LT's union. I'd watch this if I were a LT. Check out the ILRB, and the three prong test- make sure to stay within that.

10/21/2011 07:32:00 AM  
Anonymous PAX 669 said...

It's all outlined in the latest PAX 501.
Check department email for it.

10/21/2011 08:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

New uniform order? Outside covers out?

10/21/2011 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you saw it on paper??? south will be out of 10?? get it right. The area is in 011! at harrison and kedzie. Before you go and have your "you heard it here first" rumor make sure your facts are correct.


Um 011 in the new map isn't an area anymore chumskin, it's assigned to Detective North in the scheme of things.

10/21/2011 08:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Ship & Sanitary Canal is a natural physical dividing line in the City. Anyone that has ever transited North to South knows that the few bridges across it are clogged with traffic, especially if it rains or snows, for the better part of a business day, far into the evening. I think that some Northsider is looking at maps and has no idea of how large the South & Southeast sides are.

10/21/2011 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

021 combining with 002, smh, this will not increase officers in the area! this will only keep 002 from always going into a backlog! 002 is busier than 021 a fact! 002 officer lay down on jobs just like everybody else, but what they couldnt do is pull officer from 021 to do their work, but now they can and 021 former beat cars will be in 002 handling their jobs, leaving now the former 021 in a backlog! same with other districts that are merging that are faster than the other!

10/21/2011 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lieutenants will never agree to job title watch coordinators .
It's hard to believe lieutenants caved in to merit captains taking over Inspections . CPD is broke but will pay Captains to do work of a Lt. Only in Chicago.

10/21/2011 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI-Lieutenants HAVE NOT agreed to be Watch Coordinators or to give up their contractual out of grade pay. This may be part of the departments' master plan to save money.

Doesn't really matter if they agree or not. If the department rewrites what the duties of a Lt. are, or a new Watch coordinator order, it's all mute. Don't you know by now? Agree...That's funny shit!

10/21/2011 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Absolutely untrue. We captains have not agreed to any such change. We are awaiting a formal proposal from the city, and then it will be evaluated by the membership. Again, nothing regarding XOs has been agreed to. And in fact, most of the members are against it.

10/21/2011 10:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, so Dets North will be: 12/13 (whatever they call it), 14,15,16,17,19,20,23,24, and 25

a total of ten dists?

10/21/2011 11:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put the detectives in uniform in the districts we need the help,and more accountability! A Dick is a "patrolman assigned as detective," same as D-1 just more pay and much more gravy O.T.! Why buy unmarked cars waste of money buy only marked more presence and more "boots on the street!"

10/21/2011 11:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the OP doesn't list where the 001st dist goes?

???

10/21/2011 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
you saw it on paper??? south will be out of 10?? get it right. The area is in 011! at harrison and kedzie. Before you go and have your "you heard it here first" rumor make sure your facts are correct.

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Learn to read ass-wipe before you attack someone. I also saw it and Patrol Central is slated to be in 010.

10/21/2011 11:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

breaking news 701 to be disbanded. 704 and 702 to stay put for now? 704 federally funded! not going anywhere...

10/21/2011 02:57:00 PM  
Anonymous 20 years in the D said...

Put the detectives in uniform in the districts we need the help,and more accountability! A Dick is a "patrolman assigned as detective," same as D-1 just more pay and much more gravy O.T.! Why buy unmarked cars waste of money buy only marked more presence and more "boots on the street!"

10/21/2011 11:14:00 AM

Keep writing those parkers and curfews hard charger. You are a superstar.

10/21/2011 05:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

also seen the unfinished order.704 part of major crime task force.

10/21/2011 05:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI-Lieutenants HAVE NOT agreed to be Watch Coordinators or to give up their contractual out of grade pay. This may be part of the departments' master plan to save money.

Doesn't really matter if they agree or not. If the department rewrites what the duties of a Lt. are, or a new Watch coordinator order, it's all mute. Don't you know by now? Agree...That's funny shit!

10/21/2011 10:27:00 AM
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It's "MUTE"? Give me a break. Moot. Moot is the word you are seeking.
Mute means silent; it's that button on your remote that shuts off the sound.

10/21/2011 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is all well and good for the new Dickhead, Rahmbo, and his meat puppet McNuggget but there is just a little thing called a contract. You can't just rename something and circumvent contractual obligations. All the grievances when they are settled will end up costing the city more in the long run. We are being led by fools.

10/21/2011 06:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ever flamboyant JL let the cat out of the bag Again. Shame on you. Again
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10/21/2011 07:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you know what's really funny shit lieutenant? You using mute for the word moot. Now that's funny shit.

10/21/2011 07:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So this is what I heard. Since the 'ol station at Racine/Monroe (012th Dist) is too small 012 and 013 will be reporting and out of the academy. Radios, cars, lockers, at the academy until the new station they are getting gets built.

10/21/2011 08:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI-Lieutenants HAVE NOT agreed to be Watch Coordinators or to give up their contractual out of grade pay. This may be part of the departments' master plan to save money.

Doesn't really matter if they agree or not. If the department rewrites what the duties of a Lt. are, or a new Watch coordinator order, it's all mute. Don't you know by now? Agree...That's funny shit!

10/21/2011 10:27:00 AM

You Sir are an idiot!

10/21/2011 09:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

McCarthy was overheard saying:

"If Detectives just issue Investigative Alerts, why do they carry guns?"

Bad news for the D unit. Mac just doesn't like you and some of his points are hard to argue with.

10/21/2011 09:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

McCarthy was overheard saying:

"If Detectives just issue Investigative Alerts, why do they carry guns?"

Bad news for the D unit. Mac just doesn't like you and some of his points are hard to argue with.

10/21/2011 09:55:00 PM


HAHAHAHA..You dumbass. If McDomesticViolence knew anything about police work, he would be dangerous.

Remember goof. One of the requirements for being superintendent is that you have to have been arrested at least once.

And by the way McGoofy, if you are looking at the south side of the Willis Tower when you are working, you are on the south side, not centralized in the city. Must have been a real wizard in school.

10/21/2011 11:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was just told yesterday that 014 is closing it's lock-up and all prisoners will be held at 019.

10/22/2011 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous 023 said...

New uniform order? Outside covers out?

10/21/2011 08:25:00 AM
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If you wear a leather vest cover now you must wear matching leather pants and cap.

10/22/2011 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Central dets will have 1,2,3,8,9,10,12,18.

10/22/2011 01:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can rename a W/C anything you want but the defined duties that he is responsible for is set in precedent. As long as the current contract continues, Lts are eligible for out of grade pay. Contractual agreements supercede dept orders and policy. For instance, for the purposes of the Lts contract the Central Control Group still exists providing premium pay for Lts detailed from those districts to others in the city. These same protections exist for the FOP, the sgts and the capts. What are in their contracts are valid until a new contarct is approved and merely rewriting an order or definition can't change that.

10/22/2011 09:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you plan on retiring, I hope your ducks are in order! The pension alone will not be enough to live on and have any extras. And, if you are planning on taking another job, bad news for you, unless you have some clout somewhere. The jobs are just not out there unless you want to work as a night watchmen for 10 bucks an hour. Move out to the burbs and you increase your costs by almost double. A lot of employers just do not like retired cops. The employers think cops have a bad attitude about work and customer service. Hopefully, you have a lot of money in your 457. Retired health insurance is now over 700 a month and will only go up each year.

10/22/2011 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you wear a leather vest cover now you must wear matching leather pants and cap.

10/22/2011 12:44:00 AM




must the cod piece also be leather?

10/22/2011 12:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saw a District Command/Area break down.

North: 11,14,15,16,17,20,23,24,25
Central: 1,7,8,9,10,12,18
South: 2,3,4,5,6,22

The curious thing is that in the Mayor's budget, the amount of commanders is going up from 25 to 29.



Logistically speaking, this makes mores sense than north taking 12 instead of 11.

10/22/2011 02:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10/21/2011 11:14:00 AM

Keep writing those parkers and curfews hard charger. You are a superstar.

10/21/2011 05:10:00 PM

Sounds more like he/she is someone that does the job they are hired for...Enforcement.

Unlike you, ya stroke.

10/22/2011 02:38:00 PM  

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