New Calendars Out
And of course, the Department has closed 5B and 5 Full furlough segments:
- Not too surprisingly Department Notice D11-14 was issued by the Department today without the Lodge being informed by the Management and Labor Affairs Section. This notice eliminates full 5th period and split 5B furlough selections for 2012.
A class action grievance was immediately filed by the Lodge on behalf of any and all members affected by the Department's arbitrary actions.
Any member who wishes to take a full 5th period furlough or split 5B furlough should indicate this on their 2012 furlough selection form.
If you want a 5B or 5 Full segment, bid for it. And expedited grievance process might just pay dividends. Look what happened to Rahm yesterday:
- A state labor relations board sided with the Chicago Teachers Union today, asking the state attorney general’s office to seek an injunction to keep more of Chicago public schools from lengthening their days.
[...] The union’s legal victory, while not unexpected, seemed to rankle attorneys for CPS, who said the Illinois Educational Labor Relations Board already had decided the case before the two sides presented oral arguments at a public hearing Thursday.
“It appears to me that the labor board had made up its mind before we came here. I think that’s extremely distressing,” said James Franczek, lead attorney for CPS’ Board of Education.
The labor board didn't "[make] up its mind...." The labor board enforced existing rules to a mayor who seems to treat signed and negotiated contracts as so much toilet paper, and the fact remains that the G-8 and NATO summits are not emergency situations if they are planned months in advance and they are here at the invitation of city officials.
Labels: contract stuff
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
48 Comments:
You guys better get your pension straightened out down state before May 2012 . Tiney Dancer has six bills in Springfield to fuck with City Workers pensions . Us Too boys and girls. Wake up and get organized.........or else........
Glad to be retired....How much simpler a time it was working for The Real mayor Daley.....Than these to fuckin crooks.......F.O.P SHOULD ORGANIZE PICKETING AROUND THAT STATE CRUMB MADIGAN'S HOME AND TINY DANCERS HOME TOO. TO PROTEST TRYING TO CHANGE OUR PENSIONS. YOU BETTER START GETTING PRESS COVERAGE..........
so how much do I stand to gain for being denied a 5B furlo and being made to come to work? Double time and a half? What about working past my normal 8.5 hours on any given day? Would that be triple time for any extension of tour then? And then theres always the possibility of the wronged party being awarded hours on the books in addition to OT rates. Anyone know what we might be looking at if we win this grievance? Cuz my broke ass is filling every box on that furlo form with 5B if its gonna make me money. Sorry, Hairgels, us dinosaurs are gonna take all this money, too. Enjoy your 2A/2B split and the frontlines of the G8.
Soemone needs to tell that 9 year wonder FOP prez to s.t.f.u.
Stop saying that the Police Board should be eliminated when there are currently 40 cases there and in the hands of that very board you are bashing!
Dumbass!
On the plus side, most of us don't have to convert furlough days to hours so we gain a day. We are back to 22 and 25 working day furloughs
Sounds like another Mississippi tort law scam. When we can not sue for asbestos, cigarettes, or fortune 500 profits, there is always money oti be made in chicago. Bara bing bara boom!
Have the union leaders been sold out and are now a part of the corporate funded political apparatus?
How are we going to compete with the tens of thousands of dollars that the politicians are getting from corporations to fund there campaign war chest.
Surely the attention and interest of the political leaders go towards the businesses making the "campaign contributions" and they can out fund us every time!
The mayor will tread lightly and keep his playing cards close to his chest until after the G-8.
He's done with you then.
I wouldn't be signing any large purchase agreements like buying a new car or home or boat whatever.. Pay down your debts and get all your health care for you and your family taken care of while you have those benefits. Take advantage of any other benefits for education and training if you have them.
The city is broke. It's hurting for cash. Wages are stagnant and the employment rate is back on the decline. Idled workers == lost tax revenue and lost tax revenue == cuts.
You ain't seen nothing yet.
Pension Legislation Alert 10/19/11
The Lodge is requesting that you contact your State Representative and State Senator now. Please tell them to say NO to HB3827 which would diminish our representation on our pension board and give the City an unfair advantage. You should also tell them to keep Chicago Police Officers out of SB512 which would change the way pension benefits are earned and calculated.
The easiest way to contact your legislators is to call 888-412-6570. You will be connected with your State Representative and State Senator.
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So I can take a 5A Furlough then? How about the Springfield and Washington Memorial that I along with several other coppers go to each and every year? Are they going to say no this year, I can't go? Isn't the G8 only 5 days long?
This is just an attempt to avoid paying coppers to work during their furloughs and circumvent the contract. This event is in no way shape or form an emergency. Isn't an emergency something that is occurring or is imminent? A tornado, hurricane etc. etc. is an emergency. How can anyone call this an emergency when it's 7 months away? HOW CAN IT BE A FUCKING EMERGENCY WHEN THEY HAVEN'T EVEN DECIDED WHERE THE MEETINGS WILL BE!!! So, can we now decide to not abide by things in the contract if we feel it's not something we like?
fall down the stairs fighting some subhuman savage and you may get the 1a-13b furlo---
Franczek is the lead negotiator for city with police as well. Anyone with labor background knew city was violating law by by-passing union and dealing directly with employees. The only group that made out in this were the high priced attorneys A waste of money on a political stunt
This is how the likes of Racoon Eyes operates. Fuck the Law and Rules of a contract. Throw enough smelly shit at us and some may stick. Remember the reputation this creep had in Washington. He has no morals and no regard for others. The only way to stop him is by using every legal tactic available. The rule of law still does mean something in this country. Instead of dealing with unions he goes to the media to demonize anyone he wants to crush. Look at the CTA. They are wailing about a deficit and have threatened a fare increase for next year unless the unions "accept" reduced benefits and work rule changes. All of this on the backs of regular working folks trying to make a living. This administration thinks they can get their way by making all of us look like greedy selfish fucks.
Rham is the new George Pullman. Look at history. See what Pullman did to his employees and what rham is doing. Pay, cost of living, living conditions breaking the unions. It is right out of his playbook 100 years later.
On the plus side, most of us don't have to convert furlough days to hours so we gain a day. We are back to 22 and 25 working day furloughs
10/21/2011 12:55:00 AM
Who is most? I have a working day furlough and I have to convert my time to hours. Is this not correct? Am I missing something?
Union success is dependent upon it's members not being " scabs. " , i.e., teachers taking a couple of dollars to violate their own contract, coppers doing the same to be assigned to " special units, MSF, TRU etc.
Congratulations to Teachers Union for standing up to Rahm, showing that union members don't have to obey any of his royal decrees.
You have contractual rights, USE them!
Go ahead and file a grievance...your going to lose. Read your contract. The City can let you pick the furlo, then just change it for operational needs. Ask the guys who worked airports around 12a or 12b, Thanksgiving. Been arbitrated already...City won.
9 year wonder? At what point does one cease to be a "x " year wonder? 30?
DOESNT MATTER!! I have to bid in 019 for 019 next year yet 019 will not exist. DUMBASSES IN CHARGE
Rham is the new George Pullman. Look at history. See what Pullman did to his employees and what rham is doing.
You might be onto something here.
Ive been able to take a 5a or 5b for the last 10 out of 13 years for personal reasons and now the city is taking those choices away which leaves the possibly of a winable greivance. The shitty thing is that not only do I have to miss those things during that time I might not even get the chance to bid for them because there people on the job that havent taken or ever wanted to take either one of these segments but now feel compelled too cause the chance of getting paid......... which I think is absolutely stinks.
if only mike shields were as photogenic as karen lewis -- then we would be able to get our side in front of the cameras. where is pat camden? this is bs!
SCC:
The FOP says to get the word out on the 3 buses they have available going to Springfield at 8:00am next Wednesday.
Only a few people have signed up so far.
Perhaps you can put up a new topic for this!!
Our pensions are under attack!!!!!
If it is an emergency, then they clearly are admitting the officers on the job. We need everyone because we don't have enough. That is why.
The City is receiving Grant Money to purchase an X amount of black BDU for this coming May and are counting on the fact with no furlough time 5B or full 5 that they can schedule the watches as follows: 2nd and 3rd watches will work 12 hour shifts with Day-Offs intact while the 1st watch will be assigned to the G-8 detail. Seeing as the 2nd and 3rd watches have the most people they would not be striping the Districts of necessary man-power.
Ladies and Gentlemen, if you think the city is broke, then Rham-a-dom has got you fooled already. The city has money for what it wants, not what we want it to give. Remember the raises for the mayor's staff and senior advisers. He took the teachers raises but has money for the schools and teachers he has strong armed into the longer school days. By the way is the teachers union going to throw out the teachers who agreed to these changes and did not go to the union? Just food for thought. City has money for the bodyguards of retired mayors and certain alderman but not the PENSIONS they have neglected for years!
Thanks again SCC for the timely information! By furlough choice will be first box 5B next 5, we are going to get paid! If the city wants to declare this and emergency why not cancel this shit knowing it will cause mass havoc and problems? Is rahmbo so worried about running for president that he will destroy Chicago completely? 9.5 is really a dictator,at least with Hitler he admitted he was that but rahm is so snaky. Herd also his commander of his detail got reamed about the parking ticket good shit! Wait a minute a $180,000+ big pension and new take home car on a small detail! Guys making D-3 pensionable sergeants pay why? Pay them all d-1 and have a sergeant in charge! More and more theft!
This Mayor Rahm comes off as an educated man, however he is nothing more then a punk. Had he been educated he would be aware of the Webster's Dictionary definition of an emergency. I guess all the wizard's in his cabinet and not one can figure out just what an emergency is? Nor how to respond to one. Nice going Chicago voter's... I did not ask for this clown that's for sure he can take his happy ass back to DC and marvel in the comic's
I'm puting down 5B on my first furlough selection, then I'm going to order my new Harley Davidson....Thanks Rhammie !
Franzcek your existence on Earth leaves People extremely distressed
The city is broke. It's hurting for cash. Wages are stagnant and the employment rate is back on the decline. Idled workers == lost tax revenue and lost tax revenue == cuts.
You ain't seen nothing yet.
No, we have not. So can I get an amen? Its coming, brace for impact.
Anonymous said...
This is just an attempt to avoid paying coppers to work during their furloughs and circumvent the contract. This event is in no way shape or form an emergency. Isn't an emergency something that is occurring or is imminent? A tornado, hurricane etc. etc. is an emergency. How can anyone call this an emergency when it's 7 months away? HOW CAN IT BE A FUCKING EMERGENCY WHEN THEY HAVEN'T EVEN DECIDED WHERE THE MEETINGS WILL BE!!! So, can we now decide to not abide by things in the contract if we feel it's not something we like?
10/21/2011 03:31:00 AM
Exactly! They haven't even announced the place where this so called, "emergency" will be. I hope the arbitrator will ask the same question. How can it be an emergency with nearly a year to plan and not even knowing the location of such event? Typical shady chicago government.
FOP are you listening? Is it time to call in the National FOP for some help yet? This Mayor wants to destroy our pension. Time to stop him in his tracks and hopefully send him packing in three years.
Seems strange that since fat ass Daley left the new adminstration has been howling about huge deficits. The city, cta, cook county and others. Demonize public worker unions and pension funds. Great way to have total control Rahm.
Protect your pensions! Pension Bill day in Springfield IL, 26 Oct 11.
I just signed up to go with the FOP to Springfield by bus. The FOP has chartered three buses, as of 1530 hours on Friday only 17 PO's have signed up to go! ONLY 17!
Don't go cussing out Shields and the FOP if you don't get on that bus, be at FOP Hall at 0730 hours on Wednesday, 26 Oct 2011.
So I can take a 5A Furlough then? How about the Springfield and Washington Memorial that I along with several other coppers go to each and every year? Are they going to say no this year, I can't go? Isn't the G8 only 5 days long?
10/21/2011 03:05:00 AM
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15-21 May 2012 simultaneous summits
The Honorable Kevin McCarthy.
Dear Sir
As a constitute I am asking you not to vote yes, again, for the pension reform bill,
Or the bill giving the mayor of Chicago the right to appoint a majority of new
members to the proposed pension boards.
I see from your Biography we are both alumni of Chicago Teachers College
by whatever names it had in the late 60’s and early 70’s.How anyone who
called themselves a teacher can vote for these bills is beyond my comprehension.
personally I spent forty one years in the public high schools on the south side
of Chicago. I will spare you the war stories, sufficient to say it was not an easy tenure.
that life took a toll on me and was ,partially, responsible for a hidden heart
condition which brought an end to my career.
The last thing I need now is to worry about my pension. Please do not write me
that current pensioners are not affected. Last year you screwed the new teachers,
this year it could be current teachers. Will next year be our turn?
Finally I would like to point out that your district includes many public workers
and a lot of public pensioners who cannot tolerate any represensive who votes
against their economic livelihood. Even as powerful a political organization as
the Cook County Democratic Organization can protect a Politician from frightened
voters.
Robert J Busch MS.ED.
Palos Park Il.
Anonymous said...
So I can take a 5A Furlough then? How about the Springfield and Washington Memorial that I along with several other coppers go to each and every year? Are they going to say no this year, I can't go? Isn't the G8 only 5 days long?
10/21/2011 03:05:00 AM
Chicago has worked long and hard to have one of the best representations in Washington DC during "Police Week" than any other police department in the nation.
Chicago maintains the revered honor of being the first law enforcement group that the Gold Star Family members from throughout the entire nation see upon entering the U.S. Capitol ceremony,and recently coupled with our brothers and sisters in the LAPD, the last group that salute them when they depart.
It is a true honor and privilege to behold.
Works are under way for our "retirees" to 'hold the fort' next year while our active brothers and sisters in Chicago work the G8 Summit.
To our brother retirees... PLEASE seriously consider joining the proud members that will continue this tradition in May 13-15, 2012.
More information will follow.
Anyone having any input/ideas, kindly use this SCC forum to offer your helpful suggestions.
All Gave Some Because Some Gave All
Time organize and plan for a Blue Flu during the G8. Show Rahmbo we still have a say in our fates. And show the Sheep the reality of how well the city is prepared for an emergency.
"You guys better get your pension straightened out down state before May 2012 . Tiney Dancer has six bills in Springfield to fuck with City Workers pensions . Us Too boys and girls. Wake up and get organized.........or else........"
It's your pension, too. Nobody's safe, even if you're already collecting.
FOP is sponsoring buses Wednesday October 26th. Leaving FOP at 0800. Returning that afternoon. For more information call FOP at 312-733-7776.
Go ahead and file a grievance...your going to lose. Read your contract. The City can let you pick the furlo, then just change it for operational needs. Ask the guys who worked airports around 12a or 12b, Thanksgiving. Been arbitrated already...City won.
10/21/2011 07:51:00 AM
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This is correct, BUT the city is saying we can't even bid for those furlough segments! THAT is grievable!
McCormick Place union workers are the latest to get cornholed by Racoon Eyes & Co. I have no doubt the convention center needed to be straightened out to bring more conventions back to Chicago but we are letting Racoon Eyes take credit for saving the convention business in the city. Fact is politicians have always let these very unions screw the shit out of conventions to keep their support and money at election time.
PO detailed to Il National Guard? Any word on the 023rd Dist Ranger? NATO/ G8
I RECEIVE FOP TXT/EMAILS ON MY PHONE YET HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY IN A MONTH?
DID THE FOP LOSE MY NUMBER WHILE DISTRICT R BEING CLOSE AND R PENSION IS BEING STOLEN.
In the employee resources document, available online, that accompanied the furlo selection order states that we are picking furlos by watch. Why didn't they put that. In the order instead of hiding in the employee resource document. It's under line VII 5. If anybody wants to seeit
PO detailed to Il National Guard? Any word on the 023rd Dist Ranger? NATO/ G8
10/21/2011 09:26:00 PM
Huh?
PO detailed to Il National Guard? Any word on the 023rd Dist Ranger? NATO/ G8
10/21/2011 09:26:00 PM
Huh?
:Rahm's Buddie - stay tuned
that's how will we get support during the riots. Mysterious Army COlonel that hasn'tworked more than 6 months since 9/11 former HRI and riot expert, Just saying
I'm puting down 5B on my first furlough selection, then I'm going to order my new Harley Davidson....Thanks Rhammie !
10/21/2011 11:20:00 AM
Go for it. What if the city then backs off? Then you're stuck with that furlo. Don't count your chickens before they hatch son.
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