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Evanston Mayor Elizabeth Tisdahl thinks anyone caught with 10 grams or less of pot does not intend to sell it, and so should only be ticketed and fined — not jailed.
She recently asked the city’s legal department to draft an ordinance that loosens the penalty for anyone possessing small amounts of marijuana. Tisdahl said she wants to keep a young person’s criminal record from hindering employment.
A city committee will study the proposed ordinance once staff drafts it, Tisdahl said.
The amount of time cops are off the street and the amount of time spent putting together a case that will be thrown out at a PC hearing, it might be time for a serious look at ticketing weed smokers.
Opinions?
Opinions?
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
114 Comments:
Who will tact arrest?
Ha! if you think an anov is going to solve this you have obviously been drinking the kool aid. The problem is the court system with hippie judges on the bench. Another thing what is the payment rate of ANOVs. It's not like they are going to issue a warrant if they do not pay it or show up at 400 w superior. So what are you going to do to fine them? Send the ticket to collection company and wreck their credit score so they can't get a job. Just lock them up have them do swap if found guilty. Win win situation.
I wonder how these politicians would feel if their doctor was high while reading their test results, or a nurse administrating medicine in their vein. Or how would they feel if their pilot was high. I'm sure that would never do.
But hey, not to worry. Most companies will won't hire someone who fails a drug test.
Lets all just leave everyone alone, or at least until its to late.
Let the party begin.
no half ass . legalize it or keep it criminal. f the tickets ..no mixed messages.
It is long past the time to legalize it all. Take the profit out of it and thereby eliminate the cartels. Tax it just like cigarettes and alcohol. We are waging a battle that can never be won. Prohibition only breeds crime. It is time to face the obvious.
It's just a matter of time before weed is completely decriminalized.
never met a heroin user, who didnt start with heroin, they all started with weed.
I think it would generate HUGE revenue for the city.
So true,me and my partner been discussing this issue for quite sometime. You would not need tactical units,most of their arrest are for small quantities of cannabis and drinking on the public way.
How about recruits that sign up for the job.Should we just forget that
If a case report and inventory still have to be prepared, so should an arrest report, period!
It's wayyyyyyyy past due !!! Shoulda been done years ago !!!!!!!
hey dont fuck up my court overtime.
Orland has been doing municipal tickers for a while.
Does that mean we can smoke weed too?
Opinions?
Bailiff, whack his pee pee!!!!!
well, as long as the numbers game is here it will be unpopular. If weed becomes ticketable and not jailable then even more nonsense arrests will come in just to get that number. Im part of the numbers game but I do it only for the few perks that are left on this shitty job. If dude has a bag of weed, F it... he can go to jail. Now I can relax. I was in housing in the 90s, sos in the hayday and the downfall and got dumped in 06 by the infamous LT ball after the Cr numbers became a problem. I worked the watch and went through the "program". Now im hidden on a team where they just want numbers.....well, numbers to me is a bag of weed... a drinker, a pisser whatever. I do not care about making that quality arrest anymore. We all know its not worth it anymore. If I get a bag of weed then it keeps me out of trouble. If I cant even get a number for a sac of weed then WTF.... Ill be damned if im gonna go out and hard charge it to get something else. I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THIS JOB!!! If I bring you a cb let me go home early! Ive gotten 22 lawsuits, 58 cr numbers and 85 suspensions days for this department. You will not get anything else from me... just take your bag of weed cb number and let me alone. fuck gettin felonies anymore....I dont need that drama anymore. Now weed gonna be legal???? f that. I need easy cb numbers. Call it bullshi* or whatever you want I dont care. Ive been put through the ringer, suspended, in the program, 4 months at call back and finally have a spot where I can hide... One bs head a night and Im done!! This job sucks anyway, let me have that at least!!!!!!!!!
But then what will the tact team do?
Send Chicago pot offenders to Evanston for court.
Just LEGALIZE it and tax the crap out of it. $2.00 Pot Cig cigarette costs $10.00 Like a 500% tax. thay want it, then buy it.
Great tool. The suburb I work for allows us to write tickets for 2.5 grams or less. We still have the option to arrest if we deal with a frequent flier or someone just wants to make an ass of himself, but we save tons of time and energy on small-time stuff with the tickets. And not that it's any of our priorities, but the town gets to keep 100% of the fines.
Better yet just ignore the weed.
Discretion. Taking yourself off the street for a weed bust is a waste of time and also leaves the undermanned force on the streets that much more alone.
Until the pols have the courage to admit that weed is less dangerous than the alcohol I have in front of me and legalize it........then tax it they can kiss my ass.
If I could go back in time 70 years or more I'd legalize weed and encourage people to use it instead of alcohol. In 26 years of policing I can't recall one incident where I had to deal with a citizen who was high on weed, and nothing else too, who was belligerent. I don't recall any high hubbies or boyfriends beating the hell out of their wife or kids.
Maybe the alcohol is affecting my brain.
Weed should be legalized and taxed, bottom line. The hell with a casino.....tax pot.
Small amount weed pinches are a useful tool just as other minor infractions due to the fact that they disrupt gang activity by taking potential sellers, shooters and victims off the streets for a little while. The system lets go or refuses to prosecute hundreds of aggravated batteries a year not because they are to busy with nickel bag arrests but because the same little jerkoffs that are smoking and selling the weed are shooting at each other and either don't want to prosecute or are too stupid and dishonest to proceed in court.Yea I understand that it clutters up the system, but it makes them culpable. Seriously why bother with a ticket or a fine, you know the city won't collect.
You are talking jobs here! How about the guards and support employees at the Crook County Jail....Sleezy lawyers to defend all these chumps...All the paper shufflers to move these cases through the court system. All adds up to patronage jobs that can be handed out by politicians.
21 yrs old To Buy/Possess, Legalize it, Tax It, Sell It In Liquor Stores Along with the booze & Treat It As a DWI IF Driving & WALAH!
A Good Chunk Of The budget deficits Would Go Up In A Puff of Smoke(Pun intended)
If it was almost any other burb than Evanston leading the way...what, did the mayors kid get locked up?
Either legalize or don't. Don't do it half ass. Legalize it, the way our DUI law for drugs is written, more DUIs will be arrested, which means more impounds, equals more money for a city/town, and more fines paid to the state/city/town. legalizing cannabis is a money maker. Legalize the possession of cannabis throughout the state. $$$$$$$$$$$$$
Sell it legally next to the smokes and half pints. Grab the taxes from weed and forget starting a city income tax or any other money grabbing BS these commie's come up with.
How will tact get their arrest quotas then?
Champaign PD whom I worked for 29 years, has had this in place since the 1980's. The SAO office was treating this as a fine only situation anyway, so the logic was to give all the money to the City rather than split it. It makes no sense to book some guy for less 10 g and take a unit off the street for an hour or two. It is just a simple ticket that comes with a 400 dollar fine.
"75% and all the Blunt you can smoke"...thats what I want in retirement after 33 years in this place.
Sounds good to me. Possible new money maker for the city. Perhaps they could start dropping weed on rich folks and collecting fines?
As long as its an option and not required, cause some people GOT to go to jail
I use weed arrests as a means to an end: if someone has a small amount, a good attitude and doesn't seem to be up to no good, then they go on their way. If they are dickheads from the start, I'll lock 'em up and impound their car for a seed.
Same thing applies to traffic. Not everyone deserves a ticket, those that do get a fist full.
Being polite goes a long way.
Just wonder hoe much money the feds could save/make if they legalized pot and taxed the sales.
The dept is looking at it, and we will do it. 30g and under will be a ticket.
For manpower reasons, considering how short we are on the street, this has always appeared to be a great idea, and maybe it is. On the other hand, it brings up other issues:
The weed would still have to be inventoried and tested, to get a conviction at 400 W. Superior, and to protect officers from allegations of false ticketing. The fine could and should be high enough to reimburse the City and State for ALL of the involved costs: police service, forensic testing, and court. Those without jobs (Link card recipients, etc.)...can they plead "hardship" to try to avoid paying the fine? Then they should do SWAP, like they are offered at traffic court! If they don't complete the SWAP, then the fine should be reinstated. If it is then not paid....it should be entered into LEADS that a citation is never again an option for that person, which would mandate a physical arrest. Additionally, a physical arrest is still a great tool to get dealers and thugs off the street, at least for a few hours. Many dealers have only a few bags of weed on them at any one moment. Should known weed dealers be an exception to the ordinance, allowing an arrest? Should a supervisor be allowed to override the citation rule, and approve an arrest on the street? These issues are never mentioned in the press, when decriminalizing weed is discussed.
And speaking of writing ordinance citations to keep cops on the street: there is a seldom-used city "trespass" charge. How often are state trespass charges thrown out in court? All the time! Should trespassers be issued an ANOV to keep cops on the street?
I say,legalized and tax it!
I now I'm against it, but the deficit of this country is getting worse and worse everyday.
By legalizing it, it would create millions of dollar in revenue,keep our jails from over crowding,law enforcement(federal,state and city)can concentrate on a higher crimes,and it would stop the government bleeding the middle class from taxing us.
Now if the corner dope boys get caught with any MARIHUANA give them stiffer fines and higher sentences for tax evasion
No FUK The Politician The Police Should stand up and have a Press Conf This is where the Brass need to have balls and not cave in.
Just make it legal so I can smoke it again!!
long form. use discretion. tickets are bullshit.
It's time to legalize drugs. this so called war on drugs is a farce. We keep chasing our tails.
nobody pays tickets. lock these gangbangers up
Legalizing weed is the stupidest idea on the planet!!!! The shit birds who batter the police, shoot at the police, and run from the police are almost a lock to have weed on them at all times.
Less than 10 grams of weed is to small on the amount. Dude can have 10 nickel bags on him and thats going to weigh less than 10 grams. Dude was selling the shit and needs to be locked up. Gang banging shitheads already walk openly in some areas of the city smoking a blunt thanks to cowardly police officers who don't know how to do there job.
The only way the ticket system works is if you give the guy a hearing. The guy doesn't show up he gets a warrant for his arrest and mandatory County Jail time. Dude shows up for his hearing and gets a fine. Dude doesn't pay his fine in 3 months he gets mandatory County Jail time. I would be all for ticketing if it worked like this. We all know thats not how its going to work.
The amount of time cops are off the street and the amount of time spent putting together a case that will be thrown out at a PC hearing, it might be time for a serious look at ticketing weed smokers.
Tact; numbers game Always has been, always will be.
Liberal Evanston wants votes from the pothead deadbeats, no pothead wants a job when liberal government gives them a well rounded welfare program. Potheads don't pay bills and won't pay fines, then what, civil liability...on what?
Your old hippie types have a toke or two in the backyard that's fine, but Evanston's deadbeat thugs stand around on street corners at 2am woo-woo-woo'n while smoking blunts with money they get from government subsidies.
And while Evanston lays off more police & fire they'll create another program to get it's citizens off drug use by taxing the working class.
By the way, Evanston Mayor Elizabeth Tisdahl voted for Obama/Quinn/Alvarez and will again.
And I never met a pothead who didn't start off by smoking or drinking. So let's ban alcohol. Wait, that's been tried and failed miserably.
Bob Dylan said it... Times are a changing. Legalize it. Think of the JTF's you could form with Treasury Agents... oh man... screw possession... We can send people to jail like we sent Capone... Tax Evasion!!! Yeah, they'd be rollin'
Next they need to legalize it.
I would be in a much better mood in the squad dealing with barbarians if I had a nice, mellow buzz going.
Ive gotten 22 lawsuits, 58 cr numbers and 85 suspensions days for this department. You will not get anything else from me... just take your bag of weed cb number and let me alone. fuck gettin felonies anymore....I dont need that drama anymore. Now weed gonna be legal???? f that. I need easy cb numbers. Call it bullshi* or whatever you want I dont care. Ive been put through the ringer, suspended, in the program, 4 months at call back and finally have a spot where I can hide... One bs head a night and Im done!! This job sucks anyway, let me have that at least!!!!!!!!!
10/01/2011 01:54:00 AM
Prime example of a guy who will just never get it. Working for them after the first suit was on you.
What will all the hard chargers from the Area 2 Anti-Violence Task Force bring into Branch 35? Also, that would mean those Einsteins in 003 Tactical couldn't spend 4 hours in the district on a Class C misd weed pinch. Fuckin' joke.
The ASAs SOL all Class Bs and Cs anyway; go ahead and try to squeeze a fine out of them
I try to help the revenue stream by writing tickets for anyone whose car bears an Obama/Biden campaign sticker whenever I find them parked illegally!
In 018, the tact team will arrest a guy for a roach. If they had to go after real bad guys they would all quit.
victor franko said...
never met a heroin user, who didnt start with heroin, they all started with weed.
10/01/2011 12:23:00 AM
Used to smoke some weed, but would never go near heroin. Weed should be legalized and taxed like alcohol.
Enforce rules on use like alcohol, report under the influence at work you should get canned. If you smoked one at a concert on your night off, it's no ones business but your own.
I never got a hangover smoking weed either, though once in a blue moon I'd get indigestion from the midnight trip to get some Sliders.
How will this save time???
The Officer will still have to be taken out of service for a while
The Officer will still have to write an ANOV
Still have to do an inventory-and the sample will have to be sent off to the ISP for testing
And all paperwork will still have to be sent to ANOV court-just in case the cited person wishes to contend it
The only time saved is the Officers O.T. in court-and I'm not ready to give that up
I do not care about making that quality arrest anymore. We all know its not worth it anymore. If I get a bag of weed then it keeps me out of trouble. If I cant even get a number for a sac of weed then WTF.... Ill be damned if im gonna go out and hard charge it to get something else. I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THIS JOB!!! If I bring you a cb let me go home early! Ive gotten 22 lawsuits, 58 cr numbers and 85 suspensions days for this department. You will not get anything else from me... just take your bag of weed cb number and let me alone. fuck gettin felonies anymore....I dont need that drama anymore. Now weed gonna be legal???? f that. I need easy cb numbers. Call it bullshi* or whatever you want I dont care. Ive been put through the ringer, suspended, in the program, 4 months at call back and finally have a spot where I can hide... One bs head a night and Im done!! This job sucks anyway, let me have that at least!!!!!!!!!
10/01/2011 01:54:00 AM
You are, bar none, the biggest tool I have ever read on this blog. Guys like you are the reason our job is so hard. Why haven't you been fired yet?
funny how the first comment reads, "Who will tact arrest?", But it's true. What will Tac Teams do. All the buildings are gone so no more CTTSSL, watch commanders hate drinkers, and now we want to get rid of weed arrest. Just get rid of TAC teams already
I think it was deerfield did this in the late 70s.
it was mostly to prevent long term damages to their precious kids from state charges. my guess is a fair number of the tickets never went to court anyway. probably not the worst way to handle it.
it is not a bad idea. the fact is that most people that are doing some weed are harming no one, including themselves.
years ago the most common response to underage drinking was to take the booze away and send the minor drinkers on their way sans booze. these days, there are all kinds of incentives in the system to make a much bigger deal out of these situations than are necessary, or even really desirable.
stop wasting valuable police and other resources on people who are harming no one, or at worst are mildly harming themselves. that in itself will go a long ways toward police regaining the respect of the average law abiding citizen.
Not a cop
I use weed arrests as a means to an end: if someone has a small amount, a good attitude and doesn't seem to be up to no good, then they go on their way. If they are dickheads from the start, I'll lock 'em up and impound their car for a seed.
Same thing applies to traffic. Not everyone deserves a ticket, those that do get a fist full.
Being polite goes a long way.
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by being polite or good attitude do you really mean what most of us would characterize as an "adequately obsequious demeanor"?
I think most of us on the outside looking in and being subjected to these kind of tactics tend to see it that way. I do realize it is not always that simple, and there probably are some cases where hassling someone over some minor issue is warranted.
But really, just being stopped over some minor issue and you risk turning an average law abiding citizen into a cop hater, and it takes a long time to get past that. A lot depends on the demeanor of the cop. Some are able to do this in a very professional way, and others have a "got you" attitude that is a huge loser in the earning respect department.
Personally, I would like to go back to the days when I felt safer when I saw a cop car driving by and not instantly filled with fear that I might be doing something minor, even inadvertantly, that might get me hassled. These days, i almost cringe when I see a cop car in the rear view mirror. Does not matter if I am obeying all the traffic laws or not. Heck, it is not even realistic to expect the average cop much less average person to know all the various laws that you might be breaking at any one time. There are just so many of them and many are fairly obscure.
Not a cop.
never met a heroin user, who didnt start with heroin, they all started with weed.
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I would not be surprised if they actually started out with alcohol. Addiction is a very complex issue.
Legalize it.
It will be a badly needed source of tax revenue and it will free up the limited manpower resources of law enforcement for more serious threats to the public. In fact, legalize everything and as previously posted, the profit to the criminal element will be taken out of it.
Those who blow their brains out on the hard stuff will be an example to the younger generation and in a generation or two it won't be so prevalent.
Theft, assaults and shootings are rarely caused by a stoner. Traffic accidents or speedings are generally not too.
As far as there being a greater risk that your Dr. or somebody else is smokin weed while tending to you, well, that's no greater a likelyhood if its' legal then it is a possibility right now.
Pot is no more a gateway drug then alcohol or living itself is. If your inclined to fuck yourself up on the hard stuff, you're going to fuck yourself up on the hard stuff.
Pot has been illegal for a loooooong time and it is easier to get now more then ever before.
Alcohol is so much more destructive in so many ways.
Won't happen though. It's such a versatile plant, the cigarette, textile, alcohol, paper making & rope industry interests will stuff the politicians pockets to keep it illegal. The cartels will too.
What about all the psycho Sgts and Lts that want you to work the bullshit Class C misdemeanor weed arrests to get SWs? It's all about numbers. Last 5 SWs turned up ZERO. Such bullshit. Tact units need to be on the street patroling constantly to discourage armed robberies or wilding in the district. Dude knows who we are and if he sees enough 3 man cars in the area he'll think twice about it. Fuck the hour long surveillances that result in .5g of rock and $80 USC.
What are they going to have portable scales in their car ?
Alcohol and alcohol related crimes, ie. DUI is the number one killer of the American male.
I guess legalization and taxing is doing a great job.
The profit will only change hands to those that are better at marketing and advertising.
Don't believe the "hype".
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It is long past the time to legalize it all. Take the profit out of it and thereby eliminate the cartels. Tax it just like cigarettes and alcohol. We are waging a battle that can never be won. Prohibition only breeds crime. It is time to face the obvious.
jOE jOE the dog wont pay the anov and when he doesnt, nothing will be done about it. it takes 5 non paid anovs to even become ineligible for anov status when you run the persons name on leads. their is never a warrant issued. McCarthy's anov's will save the world thinking is just more smoke and mirrors.
@ 10/01/2011 12:06:00 AM
You mean traffic stops for a 'consent' search doesn't count as work?
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It is long past the time to legalize it all. Take the profit out of it and thereby eliminate the cartels. Tax it just like cigarettes and alcohol. We are waging a battle that can never be won. Prohibition only breeds crime. It is time to face the obvious.
10/01/2011 12:18:00 AM
Amen brother, I took the wife to Amsterdam last summer for 3 weeks...neither of us remember the first 3 days thanks to a great 'coffee' shop.
Fines will work great on people who don't have money in the first place. What in the hell do they do to people who cant or just wont pay their fines in the city of Chicago?
Answer-- nothing at all. This city is so messed up-cant wait to get out.
What a joke.
I love the, all hard drug users started with weed, paleeeeze alcohol is the true gateway drug. When you get stoned you just wanna be, eat and chill. Now when your drunk you become a reckless asshole that will do anything and think everything is a great idea. In 24 years I've had to fight with alot of drunks and never had to fight with anyone that was stoned. Until they figure out a way to tax it I think the ANOV for small amounts, which is what most arrests are for is a great idea. For those that have to have their CB# next time you hear a holding the offender for shoplifting waala there is your CB#. Now if your a court whore....well I guess your just gonna have to work a little harder, but being a hard charger that has to impress the boss, who doesn't really give a shit, that shouldn't be so hard. Those have to be on the tact team because a beat car is beneath you.....well you already paid for the uniforms. I guarantee you will be back in it complaining about the boss you were trying to impress dumping you.
Someone from a municipality that does this please answer me this. You still have to inventory the marijuana, right? Or do you just throw the stuff into the wind.
So you either go in right away and inventory, or you put it in your pocket, respond to an assist or in-progress call, lose it and get a CR number? I don't see the huge time saver, just saying.
One bs head a night and Im done!! This job sucks anyway, let me have that at least!!!!!!!!!
10/01/2011 01:54:00 AM
maggie just paged you.
Maybe the alcohol is affecting my brain.
10/01/2011 03:27:00 AM
yep, it gives you clarity.
It will never be legalized.
There are too many people getting their beak wet.
Still have to fill out the ticket, go to the station anf fill out a case report and inventory. Still can request an anov hearing. Wheres the saved time? Wheres the beef?
Even if you legalize it there are still going to be people who grow it themselves and it will always be cheaper/better on the street. We we still arrest street dealers for not paying the tax? Even if its legal, most employers are still not going to want to hire a pothead. I don't know the answer.
victor franko said...
never met a heroin user, who didnt start with heroin, they all started with weed.
10/01/2011 12:23:00 AM
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And i never met a "weed" user who didn't start with alcohol, so we should ban alcohol??
IDIOT!!!
"I wonder how these politicians would feel if their doctor was high while reading their test results, or a nurse administrating medicine in their vein. Or how would they feel if their pilot was high."
I wouldn't like it, but I'd be more scared if any of them had just come back from knocking back a few Scotches at lunch, and we don't jail people and saddle them with a criminal record for possession of Jim Beam.
Anonymous said...
I think it would generate HUGE revenue for the city.
10/01/2011 12:23:00 AM
Most of the violators won't pay the tickets just like they don't pay ANOV's.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I wonder how these politicians would feel if their doctor was high while reading their test results, or a nurse administrating medicine in their vein. Or how would they feel if their pilot was high. I'm sure that would never do.
But hey, not to worry. Most companies will won't hire someone who fails a drug test.
Lets all just leave everyone alone, or at least until its to late.
Let the party begin.
10/01/2011 12:14:00 AM
Who say's they're not high already? Do they have to take drug tests like we do? Don't they have access to readily available clinical drugs? Yeah, they do. Plenty of Doctors, lawyers, Businessmen, Plumbers, Bakers, and Candlestick makers do drugs all the time. I don't care what they do as long as it isn't harming anyone. Weed isn't the devil people claim it to be and I think it should be legal. Will I do it? No but I don't drink either and that's my choice, to live sober. I do not think cocaine or heroin or any other hard drug should be legal, in fact I think we should strengthen the laws on those drugs. I've never had a problem with people who smoke weed on the job or otherwise. Alcohol on the other hand has been the worst cause of fights, instant asshole every time.
Anonymous said...
I wonder how these politicians would feel if their doctor was high while reading their test results, or a nurse administrating medicine in their vein. Or how would they feel if their pilot was high. I'm sure that would never do
Probably the same way they would if those same individuals showed up after a couple shots of vodka. Just because it is legal, doesn't mean it is acceptable to be under the influence while working!!!
Ive gotten 22 lawsuits, 58 cr numbers and 85 suspensions days for this department.
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I'm so proud of you. A real credit to CPD. How did you pass the psych test? All braun no brains? Before you berate me..you are the exception, not the norm. I have worked mids, tact, gangs, and a stint on a federal task force in my career. I've had only a handful of petty lawsuits, less than 15 CR numbers, most exhonorated or not sustained and only taken 1 day. I'll soon trade 3 bars for a star.
Keep up the fine work!
If that guy has 58 cr numbers and 85 suspension days or whatever, there is something wrong with you! 1st off I was a "working" policeman for 10 of my 14 years on this job I worked in 003, 007, and tru and I have no where near that amount of cr's, 2nd if you've taken that much time why in the fuck are you even doing "one-baggers"? You must be smoking it! Are you high???
keep'm high and they vote democratic
"never met a heroin user, who didnt start with heroin, they all started with weed.
10/01/2011 12:23:00 AM"
They also abused Alcohol, should we bring back prohibition?
Oh the horrors, you'd be forced to find a speakeasy filled w/ barhags to listen to your tuffguy stories.Goof.
"As long as its an option and not required, cause some people GOT to go to jail
10/01/2011 06:38:00 AM"
Right On, that Ego needs to be stroked whatever the cost.
WRT: "...Another thing what is the payment rate of ANOVs. It's not like they are going to issue a warrant if they do not pay it or show up at 400 w superior. So what are you going to do to fine them? Send the ticket to collection company and wreck their credit score so they can't get a job...."
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Don't you know how the city that works, works yet??
When they don't show up for the ticket you have the clouted no-bid contracted outsourced collection agency send them and overdue notice.
When that's ignored then you have the clouted no-bid contract holding outsourced towing outfit that runs the auto pound to snatch their car.
etc...etc..
Faces of Pot
Its a court date for me..........and sometimes it leads to bigger better arrests......and besides that lil weed smoker that you don't wanna arrest could be the same lil a*%hole that will fight and run from you for the lil bag of weed.......just let things be.......and protect our money and jobs..... just my opinion
I like this idea, but what happens to the weed? Is it taken and inventoried is a a photo of the person with the weed taken or do you let the person keep it and move on? Anovs should be heard before a judge who could issue warrants for no shows. This could be a revenue stream for the city, but they need to follow other successful cities leads. Let someone here draft an ordinance and they will surely f--k it up with loop holes for them or their friends.
1:54A.M.: How long did it take you to figure this out? I'm guessing around your 50th suspension day. It was around my 5th lawsuit when I said fuck it, it is not worth it.
If the government can figure out how to control weed from seed to final product, they would have done it, already. They would be willing to use it as a revenue producer, but are also looking at how much that would impact foreign countries and their economic base. It's much bigger than legal or illegal.
Its just weed, who gives a shit. Legalize it and be done with it. And no I'm no hippie liberial, I am very consertive. I just realize that weed isn't that bad and not really a big deal.
Anonymous said...
... The ASAs SOL all Class Bs and Cs anyway; go ahead and try to squeeze a fine out of them
10/01/2011 08:45:00 AM
That is EXACTLY WHY the City (us) went from writing the manila colored parking tickets returnable to the Circuit Court and went to the orange tickets (around 1990), where the $$$ goes directly to the City instead.
Cut the ASA's, judges and courts out of the equation and watch Rahm's budget deficit disappear!
Used to smoke some weed, but would never go near heroin. Weed should be legalized and taxed like alcohol.
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He didn't say all weed smokers go to heroin, he said all heroin users started with weed.
Pay attention.
It's all about creating a crisis that you should not let go to wast isn't it?
I mean it's job security for the judicial system and the political apparatus to keep people passing through the revolving doors of so-called justice at the taxpayers expense.
It's to their benefit! Job security.
We can use the so-called war on drugs as a tool to win the hearts and minds of the people for higher taxes. That tax money can then be used to award no-bid contracts to friends and family members and it can be used to lower the corporations taxes -- and the corporations can then return the favor with campaign contributions for our parties!!
Yaaaay! Yay for us and eff you !
If people were serious about the drug issue we wouldn't be a sanctuary city for the illegal immigrant drug cartel members that are bringing the contraband here.
Yaay huh, we busted eight gang bangers the other day and I ask you how many did the State let back out of prison that same day and how many more illegal immigrants moved in?!?!
How many did the judges put back on the street at the same time?
STOP SQUANDERING THE TAXPAYERS MONEY
This power play b.s. illusion of working for the taxpayers needs to stop!
The Governor signs a back-seat seat belt bill for example and then the State troopers are told that they really don't need to pay any attention to that law -- in so many words.
The Fed want's us to hold illegal immigrants for deportation and the county and the city say well we're not going to do it!!
The Governor is closing down prisons, there's no place to put any new inmates creating another crisis that we can use as an excuse to raise taxes again.
There's your "Broken Windows" sending the message that the laws don't mean shit! Don't even get me started on the mortgage frauds and the investment banks crimes
The weed would still have to be inventoried and tested....
10/01/2011 07:22:00 AM
i volunteer, dude......
No FUK The Politician The Police Should stand up and have a Press Conf This is where the Brass need to have balls and not cave in.
10/01/2011 07:32:00 AM
party pooper.
Why haven't you been fired yet?
10/01/2011 10:07:00 AM
it has to do with suction.
....neither of us remember the first 3 days thanks to a great 'coffee' shop.
10/01/2011 11:21:00 AM
and yet, they were probably the best memories you'll never have.
next time, bring a videographer along.
10/01/2011 01:57:00 PM
ANOv's should be processed like speeding tickets for out of state plate vehicles.
You write a check on the spot...or you go to the station to fill out bond paper.
To Your Post :
victor franko said...
never met a heroin user, who didnt start with heroin, they all started with weed.
Well Mr. Franko ....... You are indeed a moron. You must have first flinked grade school before spitting out a comment like this.
Prince Valium
victor franko said...
never met a heroin user, who didnt start with heroin, they all started with weed.
10/01/2011 12:23:00 AM
That might be true, but the vast majority of weed smokers do not progress (or regress) to other drugs. They remain happy recreational pot users.
Hey Stupid!
Marajuana is already legal!
It's called: Finding NO Probable Cause, and case dismissed!
Better to ticket and get some money for it!
Also, I don't give a shit what people want to put into their own bodies! May they overdose!
Da Pelon
My idea put in the "Save the City" suggestion box was selling legal weed at the legal brothel in the middle of Casino Campus.
Isn't that what Twinkle toes (County bd pres) wants to do?
victor franko said...
never met a heroin user, who didnt start with heroin, they all started with weed.
10/01/2011 12:23:00 AM
The double negative in the first part of the statement negates the second part of the statement...doesn't make sense...
where will the weed be placed after it is confiscated by the officer--- are you going to have to keep it in your pants pocket for a few hours before you get a chance to go to the station to do inventory--- will there be a little weed collection box right next to the rifle rack for you to store it until you can inventory it--- if the order states that you will immediately proceed to the station to do the inventory after issuing the anov, then you might as well just lock the shitbird up--- also what if the future harvard grad ends up wrapping his car around a tree and the only thing they find is your anov stuffed into juniors front pocket at the morgue--- mom and dad will be calling the loevy brothers because you should have suspected that junior was high and should have taken him to the hospital or the pokey.....
SMOKE AND GET NAKED!
"Ive gotten 22 lawsuits, 58 cr numbers and 85 suspensions days for this department."
You're doing it wrong, dipshit.
As the government (local, state, national)need to find ways to generate revenue, just legalize the damned sh$$. It will bring tax revenue, and put most criminals out of business. Just think...the government gets revenue, the police can use their manpower for real crime, and we would have a lot of happy idiots walking around! win win for all.
I never met a rapist who didn't start off with whacking off.
How far do you want to take the pot must lead to heroin analogy?
Because if spanking the weis is a crime I should have gotten the death penalty as a teenager.
....neither of us remember the first 3 days thanks to a great 'coffee' shop.
10/01/2011 11:21:00 AM
and yet, they were probably the best memories you'll never have.
next time, bring a videographer along.
10/01/2011 05:59:00 PM
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And, if you're the police, kiss your job goodbye if you're screened the day you get back.
victor franco- I've been smoking weed all my life, never tried H and never want to.
just sayin'.
He didn't say all weed smokers go to heroin, he said all heroin users started with weed.
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Most heroin users started out on milk. Should we ban milk?
There is no clear evidence to support the conclusion that weed use leads to heroin use.
That heroin users were often at one time (or still are) weed users does not mean the weed led to a more serious addiction.
correlation and causation are not the same thing, despite how often people believe they are.
If that guy has 58 cr numbers and 85 suspension days or whatever, there is something wrong with you! 1st off I was a "working" policeman for 10 of my 14 years on this job I worked in 003, 007, and tru and I have no where near that amount of cr's, 2nd if you've taken that much time why in the fuck are you even doing "one-baggers"? You must be smoking it! Are you high???
well there is your problem right away... You only have 14 years on the job.. right now im at 25 years... of those 25 years 2 of those years were in housing west and housing south, then 13 of those years(almost your entire career) I was in SOS(yeah, sold my soul to be in the "elite" unit). So yeah, in 13 years in sos I managed to get alot of beefs and cr numbers. now im back in a district after the unit was disbanded. I layed low for about three years and now im able to hide on a tac team doing the bare minimum and getting a few perks that are left on this job. When you do police work(real police work putting REAL bad guys in jail) you will get beefs and lawsuits. I understand you feel you were the "working police" for a whole ten years, but im sure your definition of working police and mine are a little different. Not tellin war stories but when your a working police officer doors come down, sometimes all the doors on an entire block, houses get ransacked and every bad guy on the block goes to jail. Then of course the supervisor call comes in... oh well, it ended well(for me and friends at least) and im still here. You can talk sh*t about how many lawsuits or beefs ive gotten or many of you who feel I should have been fired by now but of my 85 suspension days none are because of a citizen beef or lawsuit. I got 60 days for an "incident" when I was a you wet behind the ears kid off duty(you can use your imagination" and I got 20 days for a car chase. the five days were court things, a traffic crash and crap like that. You wanna say im a bad cop and all that well then maybe you should have walked through my shoes... Because Ive had many many people say different. You wanna tell me i did it wrong and im an idiot because of my beefs and suspension then so be it, but when it comes to getting the job done and being the police you stand no chance. so when you get a little more time on son, then you can criticize me..until then, keep tryin to make that bid to days... soon you'll get off third watch.
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