Still Obliterating
With their weapons drawn, Chicago Police officers launched a new assault on the Maniac Latin Disciples on Thursday.
Supt. Garry McCarthy declared war on the gang in June after a member allegedly shot and wounded two young girls on the Northwest Side. Since then, patrol officers have made more than 500 arrests of gang members.
On Thursday, it was the narcotics division’s turn. Narcotics officers have spent months building drug cases against gang members.
One thing disturbed us though:
- Some of the officers wore bandanas to hide their faces because they work undercover.
Seriously? Why are we using UCO's to do busts? And the bandanas? Call us crazy, but that seems very....Third World-ish? Aren't those what the "death squads" wear in Brazil, Mexico or some other backwater shithole? We're so shorthanded, we're risking exposing the UCO's who do a lot of the necessary footwork to make cases that will stick in court. That's just silly in our opinion.
In the end, eight of the twenty-plus targets were arrested.
In the end, eight of the twenty-plus targets were arrested.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
82 Comments:
8 of twenty something targets??? typical narcotics.. what a joke
It's hard to obliterate when you're short of obliterators!
Ladies and gentlemen, it's time that City Hall listens to us!
Raise your voices and repeat after me:
"HIRE MORE OBLITERATORS!"
"HIRE MORE OBLITERATORS!"
"HIRE MORE OBLITERATORS!"
sorry, I got carried away.
They should have worn obama masks.
What O'Grady can't pop for some nomex balaclavas? Cheap AZZ...
Likely the ignorant reporter meant "balaclavas" instead of bandana. They're not so much third world as special operator, but still doesn't 'splain the use of UCOs for the job.
Some of you think its all b.s., but its the same problem with officers marching in the St. Jude parade. Its not meant to insult the families. Its meant to keep all of our officers protected and alive.
Yes St. Jude parade may be a tradition, but when this parade/tradition started, there weren't that many undercover officers because there weren't that many "large" specialized units. Furthermore, the crimes of today and the lack of respect for police of today ARE GONE!
Again - do not force undercover officers to march, nor be pissed off if they elect/request not to march in the St. Jude parade. All police officers believe in the parade, and will be there in heart and mind and soul, and will always donate monetarily.
What!?! The department approved bandanas!!! HELL YEAH!!!
Hope they are black/white paisley print w/ a checkerboard around the edge... ...that way I could look official!
Operation just cause # 500,000,000 now that gang is obliterated we can move on to the next one.
Re: Bandannas
I guess the answer is that Narcotics can only "trust" themselves to do "whatever" needs be done ...right...
So ATTENTION: we should all trust to notify them when the W/C says you should notify Narcotics on whatever you got or any "decent" dope arrest...
YEAH RIGHT!
The soft keep getting softer!
The goofs keep getting goofier!
The (on the job) retired keep getting ....uh .....retireder?
So go ahead wear your Bandannas...do it yourselves...We should give it all up to you guys..... WE QUIT.. its your department now.....We all just go here while the phone call clout heavy work their "MAGIC" and show everyone how its done right!
By the way I got some GOOD info for ya'll.....NOT! Go get it yourself!
Hey... I 'll wear my Bandanna to the Archview tomorrow....if they think I'm robbing it I ll just say hey I 'm trying to impress the Narcotics bosses so maybe they'll notice me on my stealthy tactics and accept my resume cause I look like them!
Lunch anyone?
I/F
Per McKnucklehead
“If they know the cops are going to get out of their cars, they’re less likely to carry a gun,” he said.
Who thinks this nonsense up? They don't care if we get out of the car or not. They are savages. They only understand one thing. VIOLENCE! 20% reduction in crime my ass. You educated liberal idiot cops at headquarters think that all your stupid graphs and power point lies are usefull. What a bunch a pencil pushing assholes.
Actually SCC we are not THAT shorthanded. The SWAT team is available to do warrants for narcotics or any other unit in the city. However either the supervisors are to macho /and or stupid to want to use SWAT and would rather endanger their UCO's, or the officers themselves made the choice. Either way someone is making a bad choice that could wind up getting a UCO seriously hurt or worse..
There should be a G.O. out there to determine if SWAT should be used or not.
Oh, that's right, there is a G.O. out there that says SWAT is supposed to be called for warrants....it's just that most choose NOT to follow the G.O.
Be safe out there guys.
1. Also what the police, soldiers and Marinera wear in Mexico to forestall retribution against themselves and their families by the narcotistas.
V/R JWest
They wear them because they see it on television. Just like the thigh holster. They see some Green Berets or Navy SEALS wearing them on television and the next day every tac guy or narcotic officer has a thigh holster.
Hy SCC, big changes coming later today. Standby, heads are going to roll.
Having worked in that building for years let me clarify. Just because you work in narcotics doesn't mean you work undercover. In fact very few people there make buys. Everyone will tell you they are undercover but they are not. This includes the secretaries, and the white guys from Mount greenwood with there goatees and police tatoos on their forearms. You have never bought dope so quit lying.
checked out most of the arrests made. All but one that was made on division/washtenaw were pimpy.
Flashdance before the raid ...She's a Manic Manic ..manic on the floor.DoDo Do
These operations have been going on for years. Big splash in the Media and a few arrest with very little time given out by the courts.
Time to face it: this is nothing more than a publicity stunt. If you take the same man hours spent and plop those officers in a uniformed car and leave them on that corner you get more police service for your buck.
Using buy officers for enforcement? That's just plain stupid. Are we that short of manpower? But this is from a Superintendent who wants officers out in hoodies and various disguises.
Let me ask you Mr. Superintendent: How many Chicago plain clothes officers have been shot and killed by other police officers? Don't bother looking it up. It's none.
Now lets ask how many New York coppers have been shot by another cop? How many shitheads have used the excuse in court:"I didn't know they were police" and won an acquittal?
So how many dope boys going to jail for a really short time are worth the life of a Chicago Police officer? Dope boy replaced in about 5 minutes by the next one vs. husband/father/wife/mother who leaves a huge whole in a family's existence?
They wear them because they see it on television. Just like the thigh holster. They see some Green Berets or Navy SEALS wearing them on television and the next day every tac guy or narcotic officer has a thigh holster.
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what he said.
I think the question that should be addressed is when GMac will declare that the MLDs are no more. After all he's claiming over 500 have been arrested so far. What a joke. How many were bullshit charges that will, or already have been dismissed? How many will get probation or supervision and how many are on bond? If we keep achieveing a 20% decrease in crime each month why is there still crime being reported? We'll never eliminate the MLDs. We'll never eliminate crime.
At 0723
You must be pissed u didn't get on a certain team. I'm on patrol and wish I could have a thigh holster. It's a fact that it's easier to draw in ur vehicle with a thigh holster and that it's more natural to draw from the position where the thigh holster is then ur belt line.
The UC officers were there because they are so shorthanded.
Also, since the gangs have infiltrated the CPD, they are doing anything they can to proect the families.
Seems like some of the brass is very cozy with the bad guys.
Look at the Sergeant mentioned in the article, that says it all.
Hmmm, wear mask and now bad guys can shot you out of fear of home invasion. You'll see it in court when it happens.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
8 of twenty something targets??? typical narcotics.. what a joke
9/30/2011 12:07:00 AM
And just like every other operation the courts do nothing and they are all back out on the street. Hell, in a certain district they have conducted 4-5 operations in the last 10 years and every single target is standing on the corner today. The problem is the judges could care less cause most don't live in Chicago and most aren't even qualified to be judges.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They wear them because they see it on television. Just like the thigh holster. They see some Green Berets or Navy SEALS wearing them on television and the next day every tac guy or narcotic officer has a thigh holster.
9/30/2011 07:23:00 AM
The thigh holster is now the sillyest look out there! Especially with the backwords ball cap. Way too much TV for some of these guys.
O.T.
Great going, Florida! You set the stage for the other 49 States to copy! Kudos to Republican Governor Rick Scott for having the correctness and guts to move forward on this critical issue !
I-95 North will be jammed for the next month or so........Druggies and deadbeats heading North out of Florida..
Florida is the first state requiring drug testing to receive welfare! In signing the new law, Republican Gov. Rick Scott said, "If Floridians want welfare, they better make sure they are drug-free.
Applicants who test positive for illicit substances won't be eligible for the funds for a year, or until they undergo treatment.
Those who fail a second time would be banned from receiving funds for three years!
Naturally, a few people are crying this is unconstitutional.
How is this unconstitutional ?
It's completely legal that every other worker must pass drug tests in order to get a J-O-B which supports those on welfare!
FYI...Chicago IS a "backwater shit hole" and those goofs wore that nonsense to look what they think is cool sir.
Hey Einstein, do your homework. Look up the statistics on the thigh holster. You can draw your weapon a whole second faster using it as your hand is usually right on it and ready to draw your gun naturally w/o having to reach up towards your waist. Sure a second doesn't sound like much time, but in a shooting it is. But let me guess, you prob would never be in a position to draw your weapon as I'm sure you do the bare minimum. Just retire already.
There is no way our joke of a swat team is doing anymore warrants for narcotics or most any other unit. Their hard headed Lt and retarded Sets decided that surround and call out was better than blowing down the door and they will no longer do that. The kicker as in cpd fashion. The swat bosses never informed anyone of this decision. So when narcotics and the gang init called them to do a warrant and the away team just surrounded the house and got on the blow horn telling everyone in the house to come out that was the end
They do a warrant a month tops now. Its a joke.
On further news. 8 out of 28. Dam I should be a drug dealer in Chicago with those odds. Wow. Such an elite narcotics unit
In Narcotics there are undercover officers that not only march in the St Jude parade, but put their vest on after making a undercover buy and go out and lock people up without the a disguise. I've done it because it was expected by people who don't know any better. Then you're at your local parish carnival standing in line with you kids and who do you see but the guy you bought dope from as an undercover and then arrested as an enforcement officer. Thank God Narcotics has a commander now who has worked every aspect of narcotics and his primary concern is officer safety.
We are a Third World City !
Our elected officials are dictators who keep all the wealth for themselves & connected associates and then cry and moan that the city is broke !
Dick daley should have been "dicked" long ago before he had the chance to really "Dick" the people of Chicago.
Argentina had Juan & Evita, we have dick & maggie.
Oy Vey !!!!!!!
There is a lot to be said for Brazilian Death Squads.
Did they utilize fugitive apprehension unit? They are round up guys.
Agreed that uco should not be used for round ups.
Likely the ignorant reporter meant "balaclavas" instead of bandana. They're not so much third world as special operator, but still doesn't 'splain the use of UCOs for the job.
9/30/2011 12:45:00 AM
Wow! A special operator. How do I become one of those and what kind of special phones will I be answering?
Use SWAT for every search warrant,give them a few days notice.
They are the best at making forced entry to dope and gun houses.
Stay safe , use the back up CPD has to offer .
To the undercover officers that don't want to be there to march for fear of compromising their identity. A hat and sunglasses go a long way in concealing your identity. If you think that the criminal element that you’re dealing with every day makes it out to St Jude at 8am you need prescription glasses. I've been marching at St Jude for over 20 years and have never seen a potential seller standing in the crowd of the St Jude parade even when it was on Michigan Avenue. You have a much better chance of being compromised going into or leaving Homan Square. People your team locked up the day before, that you purchased narcotics from, are now coming to the guard shack of your undercover unit asking "where can I get my cell phone". What do you think was going through the minds of the exempts when they decided to put ERPS at Homan Square. Was it influenced by the revruns who thought every time they get arrested theys get to see some mo of those undercover narcos so they won't be sellin to them no mo. Whatever the thought process or lack thereof just eulogizes the total ineptness of our city’s leadership as a whole. Yeah let's make every arrestee go to reclaim their property at the same location where our undercover officer's report to and deploy from every day. That in a nut shell is what is wrong with our Police Department and city leadership. It is also proof positive that you officer are a necessary evil. I will tell you to your face how much you are appreciated and then I will make decisions that are detrimental to your safety and possibly your life. Whoever made this decision and the people who are doing nothing TO CORRECT THIS SITUATION should be pushing a broom somewhere instead of being employed by the city of Chicago, don't have the common sense God gave wild geese, just don't give a shit about officer safety or all of the above. My guess all of the above.
Now go out there and get those bad guys so I look good.
Oh no scc you didn't hear our new supt making the union look greedy. Yesterday afternoon on channel 7 news it was either at 5 ot 6 mccarthy was on telling again how crime was down another 20 percent. He walso tooted his own horn by saying how great an idea it was to put more "beat officers" on the street. He sounded like a recording of rahm. Anyway he made the union seem greedy by saying that he doesn't believe we are down 2000 officers as the "union says". also he stated how he believes 11000 is a good number for us. And how he won't hire a singal more police officer. What a dick. Sorry for the long post
TWENTY and OUT said...
Actually SCC we are not THAT shorthanded. The SWAT team is available to do warrants for narcotics or any other unit in the city. However either the supervisors are to macho /and or stupid to want to use SWAT and would rather endanger their UCO's, or the officers themselves made the choice. Either way someone is making a bad choice that could wind up getting a UCO seriously hurt or worse..
There should be a G.O. out there to determine if SWAT should be used or not.
Oh, that's right, there is a G.O. out there that says SWAT is supposed to be called for warrants....it's just that most choose NOT to follow the G.O.
Be safe out there guys.
9/30/2011 04:51:00 AM
Well said, SWAT stroke trying justify his job. There should be a G.O. that says you have to be the police before you can be a SWAT guy who spends his days forever practicing and working out and generally avoiding what we call police work, like arresting criminals and then going to court. There's more to this job than a sand table exercises and rehearsals.
There's a couple idiots on tact in my district sporting the thigh holster. One even wore it as he was filling in as tact secretary for a couple weeks!!
The takedown could have been handled of a multitude of Officer on this job. However, OCD is above everybody. They talk of cooperation, but are full of it. Stealing info and portraying it as theirs, GEU controlling access to IDOC and windy Citys by order, all to preserve their fiefdom. Tools
They wear them because they see it on television. Just like the thigh holster. They see some Green Berets or Navy SEALS wearing them on television and the next day every tac guy or narcotic officer has a thigh holster.
9/30/2011 07:23:00 AM
I'm just curious, how many people know the true purpose of wearing a thigh holster? Let's hear your answers...
sorry, I got carried away.
9/30/2011 12:25:00 AM
don't forget to flush.
In real life, the good guys don't need masks. This dippy practice is going to get someone killed someday: either a PO or an armed citizen who stumbles into one of these clusterfucks.
They hides there face so that they can continue to make buys sec this is a very small city!
Whatever Cop who is actually doing the risky thankless job, (damn flak even on this blog by other CPD), of going after drug dealing bangers feel they need to do...do it and God help you. The last thing you want these days are would be cop killers who target specific officers to know what they look like. Cops who are known from uniform work and tactical as well have already been followed home after duty by bangers. How is this different than what happens in Mexico on border areas every week now. Be safe and maybe the wasted money on layers of extra exempt ranks will be used for better head to toe gear in 2012 along with at least a thousand new recruits. That is what I wish for Cpd even as I am safely retired. Old School Ret. Sgt
I partially agree with Twenty and out, in that there is manpower out there to be utilized in this type of operation. There are the area teams, most westside and southside districts, with the surge of manpower, now have incident teams, there are tactical teams, you could even call in GEU or GIU, or any number of uniformed or c/d teams to assist as the enforcement teams. The problem is this, there is no spirit of co-operation in this department. Everyone is trying to one up each other. No one wants to share intel because they are afraid they won't get the head, no one wants to ask for assistance because they are afraid they won't get credit for the recovery. It has become every man/woman/child for themselves. This is sad. If we ever to get organized and truly work as a team, we could take back this city in short order, in more ways than one...FOP/PBPA...cough,cough. But that will never happen because the egos are too numerous and too inflated.
Why is that a shock?????? We all know what these p.o.s.'s are capable of...ex..Following officers home, shooting at officers, threatening family, ECT... the Mentality and actions of these p.o.s.'s are changing for the worse. Read up on what's going on across the U.S. it's pretty scarey....Better to be safe than sorry.....
Did they have to get thier stars stitched on the bandannas?????? Watch out....Here comes henny penny to gig ya...
Actually SCC we are not THAT shorthanded. The SWAT team is available to do warrants for narcotics or any other unit in the city. However either the supervisors are to macho /and or stupid to want to use SWAT and would rather endanger their UCO's, or the officers themselves made the choice. Either way someone is making a bad choice that could wind up getting a UCO seriously hurt or worse..
There should be a G.O. out there to determine if SWAT should be used or not.
Oh, that's right, there is a G.O. out there that says SWAT is supposed to be called for warrants....it's just that most choose NOT to follow the G.O.
Be safe out there guys.
Listen guy im not about to do all the leg work and paperwork then let some goofs in green suits have all the fun and blow the door in. Warrants were done for decades without swat and things worked just fine.
They wear them because they see it on television. Just like the thigh holster. They see some Green Berets or Navy SEALS wearing them on television and the next day every tac guy or narcotic officer has a thigh holster.
9/30/2011 07:23:00 AM
THIS IS THE REAL REASON!!!!!
obliterating
present participle of ob·lit·er·ate (Verb)
1. Destroy utterly; wipe out.
2. Cause to become invisible or indistinct; blot out
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Aren't they obliterated yet? Why can't we get some drone missiles from the CIA?
McCarthy says he isn't hiring because he isn't convinced we need more officers. Well, that and Rahm won't let him hire.
Per McKnucklehead
“If they know the cops are going to get out of their cars, they’re less likely to carry a gun,” he said.
Who thinks this nonsense up? They don't care if we get out of the car or not. They are savages. They only understand one thing. VIOLENCE! 20% reduction in crime my ass. You educated liberal idiot cops at headquarters think that all your stupid graphs and power point lies are usefull. What a bunch a pencil pushing assholes.
9/30/2011 04:41:00 AM
Yes, that thought process definitely reflects what happened when Officer Valadez 'got out of his car'. Seriously, McFoolish has no concept of what goes on out on the street.
We are living in a Third World city these days. When in Rome....
Hy SCC, big changes coming later today. Standby, heads are going to roll.
let me guess..... you heard it here first!!
My girlfriend says her husband wears that thigh holster at home and practices the quick draw .
What a tool . BwaHa ha
Thigh holsters provide a stable platform for drawing your weapon.
Also avoids any 'conflict' with equipment carried on your belt.
Why would you use buy officers on a roundup? Makes absolutely no sense at all. Narcotics is big enough to pull enforcement officers from different teams, to use
tact teams, whatever.
Old Retired Guy Here;
I like to see uniformed, well groomed troops. What ever happened to "Does Your Appearance Command Respect"?
Does anyone understand the current CPD uniform code ? Is it ever enforced ?
Cmon UC there cause shorthanded, how about doing a shift by starters being on time. 189 is notorious for doing work only on OT.
Anonymous said...
They wear them because they see it on television. Just like the thigh holster. They see some Green Berets or Navy SEALS wearing them on television and the next day every tac guy or narcotic officer has a thigh holster.
9/30/2011 07:23:00 AM
I'm just curious, how many people know the true purpose of wearing a thigh holster? Let's hear your answers...
9/30/2011 10:59:00 AM
It is so the long armed knuckledraggers can reach their weapon easier. Besides, that is what is in the tactical catalogs, I see the CIA guys carry them in Afghanistan. You don't see those guys carrying a snub nose .38 with a belt hook circa 1968.
The press films and takes photos of officers marching and there was one incident that I know of where an undercover officer made the front page and his role in a long term case was over like that. Bad guys fled and warrants issued.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They wear them because they see it on television. Just like the thigh holster. They see some Green Berets or Navy SEALS wearing them on television and the next day every tac guy or narcotic officer has a thigh holster.
9/30/2011 07:23:00 AM
The thigh holster is now the sillyest look out there! Especially with the backwords ball cap. Way too much TV for some of these guys.
9/30/2011 09:25:00 AM
Don't hate! I look bad ass in my $200 blue jeans and a backwards baseball cap!
A bandana over any persons face is a VERY BAD IDEA. I don't want to think what would happen if a person I didn't recognize came at me with a weapon. If we are that short that we are playing " Chicken" with a possible " Friendly Fire" incident we are in big trouble.
I'm just curious, how many people know the true purpose of wearing a thigh holster? Let's hear your answers...
9/30/2011 10:59:00 AM
So you can clear your body armor...duh.
The narcotics are making a joke out of police work. 8 arrests from months of investigation? What investigation? These cops are jumping the gun with out accurate information and coming up with nothing. Stop making fools out of yourselves, do your research. I wonder if previous busts have given such pathetic results? Lose the napoleon complex, do your job the right way and earn respect when you can accomplish that. Until then your a laughing joke guys.
OT:Need more officers for the street,Tac Secretaries position should be eliminated,this job takes no longer to do than 1 hour and the watch bid or light duty officers can take this over and send the able officers for street duty.
Anonymous said...
In real life, the good guys don't need masks. This dippy practice is going to get someone killed someday: either a PO or an armed citizen who stumbles into one of these clusterfucks.
9/30/2011 11:17:00 AM
Exactly - Can't believe no one else said it till now.
I see more than a couple of problems wih this, not the least of which is granting a get out of jail free to a police shooter.
You REALLY think a Crook County jury would take more than a half hour to acquit?
I watched McCarthy on NBc. What a joke. His ego was almost as large as the lieutenant looming in the background!
"They wear them because they see it on television. Just like the thigh holster. They see some Green Berets or Navy SEALS wearing them on television and the next day every tac guy or narcotic officer has a thigh holster.
9/30/2011 07:23:00 AM"
I've seen some Watch "Operators" wearing thigh holsters for their Tazer.Good Grief lmao
"There's more to this job than a sand table exercises and rehearsals.
9/30/2011 10:47:00 AM"
Sand Tables? Do they use those @ the compstat meetings?
They could play in it or pound it up their arses
TO: 9/30/2011 10:59:00 AM;
I used mine to keep my dip can from rattling in my cargo pocket......AIRBORNE ALL THE WAY!
I also got this cool black hoody on E-bay a couple two tree years ago from this seller JF50 for raids like this......
They hides there face so that they can continue to make buys sec this is a very small city!
9/30/2011 11:26:00 AM
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Thank you. We are all so stupid, we couldn't figure that out. Or, you're just much smarter than all of us.
OR - you missed the whole POINT of the posting.
Is it true that narcotics does not have ANY northside teams? I gurss they dont sell dope up here. God help us.
I'm just curious, how many people know the true purpose of wearing a thigh holster? Let's hear your answers...
9/30/2011 10:59:00 AM
is that a gun in your thigh holster, or are you just glad to see me?
Purpose of a drop leg is to clear a big ole vest/plate carrier or a shit ton of gear. That's it.
Anon asked: 9/30/2011 10:59:00 AM
I'm just curious, how many people know the true purpose of wearing a thigh holster? Let's hear your answers...
9/30/2011 08:26:00 answered:
So you can clear your body armor...duh.
My thoughts: there are products out there you can use that allow for a chest carry over body armor. Thigh position in police work may create a weapon retention problem, (your thighs move alot don't they boys and girls) and in my opinion an easier disarming opportunity for shithead. The position can snag and bump every fucking thing, and as far as I am concerned puts you in an unbalanced draw position or worse yet, has moved from where you thought it was the second you need it. I worked out with one for a couple of weeks, spent two weeks icing my balls after a pinch.
--meg vet
ps I generally try NOT to look like anyone that I see on TV, good general rule.
Anonymous said...
Cmon UC there cause shorthanded, how about doing a shift by starters being on time. 189 is notorious for doing work only on OT.
9/30/2011 06:37:00 PM
189 is famous for that? You new here? "No Crime before overtime" is the motto of good detectives everywhere. We have some very good detectives who are expert at spinning the clock. What did you think, people seek promotions to detective to catch bad guys? Fat OT checks brother, it's all about checking the cash box.
A UCO on a publicity raid is dangerous and should never be done.
The press films and takes photos of officers marching and there was one incident that I know of where an undercover officer made the front page and his role in a long term case was over like that. Bad guys fled and warrants issued.
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One would hope that other UCs would learn from his mistake and not openly announce one is a cop to the whole world. You cannot get past dumb sometimes.
I wear a bandana when I come in late to roll call ... I don't want the watch cmdr to recognize me
Purpose of a drop leg is to clear a big ole vest/plate carrier or a shit ton of gear. That's it.
10/01/2011 04:16:00 AM
So you can clear your body armor...duh.
You are both correct, so unless you are wearing a level 3 heavy raid body armor you should not be wearing a thigh holster. Its just plain stupid and dangerous. You can't retain your weapon as well in a struggle. So probably the only ones who should be wearing a drop holster is swat while on a hbt job or search warrant that's it no one else. I can't see anybody wanting to wear a vest that big and heavy for 8 hrs a day making street and traffic stops.
Let swat do the warrants:
Listen guy im not about to do all the leg work and paperwork then let some goofs in green suits have all the fun and blow the door in. Warrants were done for decades without swat and things worked just fine.
9/30/2011 12:12:00 PM
Who will be the goof when you and your ego are laying in a pool of blood dead! Be smart and safe about things!
They wear them because they see it on television. Just like the thigh holster. They see some Green Berets or Navy SEALS wearing them on television and the next day every tac guy or narcotic officer has a thigh holster.
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what he said.
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