Homicide Task Force
Is this for real?
- The Homicide Task Force lists are real. The Chief of Dets is not aware because McNutty doesn't want him aware. The Homicide Task Force will not report to the Chief of Dets, they will report to Chief of Compstat, Tracy.
Burne will handle the burglary and robbery BS along with the homicides no one cares about. The Homicide Task Force will do McNutty's bidding directly by working on any and all high profile cases.
McNutty hates the way the D Unit is run. He thinks there are way too many Dets. McNutty is moving the D Unit out of the D Unit and putting it directly under his control.
Don't be surprised when the next contract proposal eliminates the D2A pay for all "detectives" except those on the Homicide Task Force. Everyone else will move down to D2.
One more thing from your new boss. Absolutely NO overtime for robbery/burglary dicks assigned to Districts.
Things are about to change big time.
Labels: rumors
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
72 Comments:
Rahm, The Peoples Hero, will save the City Millions!
(gee, wasn't that Daley's Plan a few years ago?, and now we are broke)
The clearances would drop like a rock and there would definitely be a class action lawsuit for changing the grade pay status for the other dicks. Bring it on my lawyer is licking his chops.
Oh yippie skippy. The clearance rate for robbery and burglary in this city are past fucking pathetic already.
While I was visiting my mother at her home in SW Florida, there was a burglary on her block. Full crime scene tech dispatch, several repeat visits from the dicks. They actually wound up catching the bastard.
There's just not enough men to do the job that needs to be done already- now they're saying no OT? Great decision, McRahmsBitch.
So, my house gets tossed, a dick is working leads around the neighborhood, one gets hot around shift change and he has to punch the clock?
Retarded decision. Put out a general OT minimization directive if you want, but making it an inflexible rule is going to cause bad guys to get away as sure as the sun rises in the morning.
They would need just cause to get rid of d2a.
The overtime will be made in court then. One case would have 4-5 detectives on it instead of 1-2. No big deal.
Does anyone think the northsider who got bounced out of area 5 and now has to drive to area 2 is reallly going to bust his ass to do a good job?
Next year the sup will look at the clearence rate and have fond memories and wonder what happened.
So why would anyone want to be a Detective now? Fuck them!
News Flash, Robberies and Burglares sky rocket
Is this how things are done in NY? Anyone know?
i hope they kept a matrix from 10 years ago and how things were done because we are going to need it one day!
Maybe the homicide task force can find the supt's brain so he can come to his senses and do away with the deployment box zones.
To the reading challenged individual:
We aren't looking for the next great spot. And, if you read the post, you see that we copied the entire post from a visitor in our comment section....we didn't write it, we just gave it play so people could debunk it or support it.
Try to keep up
I was at the last compstat flogging. It was very clear that McSup and Tracy despised (sp) Area 1 Detectives and did everything they could in the meeting to make them look incompetent. It’s nice to arm chair quarter back on several crimes in the area after the fact looking for patterns but at the time of the crimes there is no time to look for patterns.
NO CRIME TIL OVERTIME????????????
The clearances would drop like a rock and there would definitely be a class action lawsuit for changing the grade pay status for the other dicks. Bring it on my lawyer is licking his chops.
The clearances would drop like a rock? They are the worst in the nation now, didn't think the rate could get any lower.
Clearance rates are irrelevant. Arrests cost the city money.
Tom Byrne is a class act. Worked with him years ago.
old retired guy
Homicide task force will like Streets and San .... 6 guys assigned, all standing around waiting for the other detectives to do the canvas. When the bell rings and the next shift starts, the favored 6 will get their slips and the rest will be sent home. Seen it numerous times. They all believe it's real, just like Law and Order. Ya, they do have to type it up, and the homicide reports, admittedly, are scrutinized, but, guess what ... an investigation is an investigation. Period. See things and talk to people and write it down. Same same.
Oh yippie skippy. The clearance rate for robbery and burglary in this city are past fucking pathetic already.
While I was visiting my mother at her home in SW Florida, there was a burglary on her block. Full crime scene tech dispatch, several repeat visits from the dicks. They actually wound up catching the bastard.
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I don't knkow the exact numbers, but nationwide, burlgary clearances are around 12%. Very hard to catch unless there's a witness ... which there usually is not. Robberies have witnesses. But no if proceeds then one positive ID won't cut it, unless the guy shits on himself. We all know this. I hope Garry with (2) R's is not under the impression that these are ground balls and we are just blowing them off. That's not the case big guy.
If that Chief of Comstat is Dick Tracy, then there's nothing to worry about folks. Nothing at all.
---not a cop
Do as you are told and shut up! And by the way, thanks for voting democRAT.
Detective is not a rank...they have no "special" contract. They are POs Assigned as Detective. They can be reassigned back to PO anytime...the department can do what they want with them.
Contract is up in June of 2012 and they can change the pay scale then without any grevence or complaint as long as the people already made Detectives stay at present pay scale and ALL new promotions at new and improved lower scale.
OT-Any idea how many are retiring on the 15th?
"Rahm, The Peoples Hero, will save the City Millions!
(gee, wasn't that Daley's Plan a few years ago?, and now we are broke)"
No Tricky Dick's plan was to TAKE millions from the City, either directly or in the form of contracts to friends & relatives.
The broke City of Chicago is his legacy.
will there be a dick to investigate my broken windows?
Rahm and McNutty sure seem Hell bent on completely destroying this department. Doesn't anyone in the upper echelon have the balls or the power to speak up and let these idiots know about the huge mistakes they're making?
I'm not adverse to change but it should be change that makes some sense.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The clearances would drop like a rock and there would definitely be a class action lawsuit for changing the grade pay status for the other dicks. Bring it on my lawyer is licking his chops.
11/14/2011 12:18:00 AM
How could they drop lower? Put all the dics in Blue shirts and in marked cars would increase police presence and more accountability! Reality what a concept!
I already spoke to a few detectives... It will cost them thousands of dollars to cross the city to their new assignments. Even though most of them currently drive half the distance, the extra miles and the hours in which they have to drive will deter even the most dedicated and energetic detective. The moral compass in this job has been lost. The city has killed the spirit of defending the victim by putting a dollar figure on everything we do. We have spent countless hours doing police work in the last few decades and never charged the city a dime in overtime, but the constant reminder of money, money, money has prompted even the newest patrolman to charge the city for every quarter-hour they can.
For all of you idiots thinking "oh the clearance rate will drop", keep dreaming! Why does the city makes these changes? Well because they know they can get away with it. Idiots will continue to work hard no matter what. No matter what. There is no unity on this job.
You fucking people are hysterical
The list was a FUCKING JOKE!!!! Christ don't take shit so serious.
good luck finding anyone to work directly for this misfit. I never thought i would say this but bring back Jody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's gonna be outside contractors to do the investigations by a firm of ex-NYPD detectives led by Vernon Geberth. All roll calls will face East and pray towards #1 Police Plaza. All CPD clocks will be set to Brooklyn time. No members of the service will be allowed to eat deep dish pizza. Baseball will be played in the street with a stick.
OT - Once again, liberal media doesn't want cops to have the same rights that are enjoyed by criminals!
NYPD Police Union: Another Example of Why Public Employee Unions Need to be Outlawed
http://www.chicagonow.com/publius-forum/2011/11/nypd-police-union-another-example-of-why-public-employee-unions-need-to-be-outlawed/
I call bull shit.
Im sorry SCC but really? You gave this typical disgruntled beat cop his 5 minutes of fame by posting his comment. You are way to clever to need us readers debunking this rumor. But besides this one thing, great job and great blog!
WOW
NO OVERTIME FOR ROBBERY DICK?
SURE NO PROBLEM ITS A THEFT.
NO OVERTIME FOR BURGLARY?
THATS EASY CRIMINAL TRESPASS.
AND WHAT IS A HI PROFILE MURDER?
AND WHEN DOES THE HIGH PROFILE DETECTIVE COME OUT AND INVESTIGATE AFTER HE READS THE NEWSPAPER ABOUT IT?
DONT WORRY ABOUT THE DICKS THERE B PLENTY OF CRIME AND ANYTHING CAN BE OVERTIME. THOSE LINE UP AINT DONE BY CIVILIANS OR THE DESK SGT.
THE INVESTIGATIVE ALERTS ARENT DONE BY BLACKBERRY OR FAX.
THOSE STATES ATTORNEY DONT TELL THE DICKS TO GO HOME AND SLEEP WORRY ABOUT THE CASE TOMORROW.
RAPES
SHOOTING
CHILD MOLESTERS
CON MEN
ITS ALL MISDEMEANORS IF U WANT. BUT OVERTIME WILL BE THE SAME.
Has anyone realized the last time a guy came here from New York to run things, 7 guys were gunned down on the 2000 blocl of North Clark???? I'm just saying.
2:10 pm there is no place on this department for dirty cops!! That article fails to explain if the cops are not ticketing some because of "courtesy" or because the police are being "courteous" because they the citizen is handing them a little money. The only thing wrong with unions as far as I see is that if there is a corrupt cop it is very difficult to get rid of him/her because of unions. Just like with teachers, same thing. The corrupt individual sits inside somewhere for years getting paid from taxpayers. It should not take years--the system needs to be corrected. Look at PO. Hester, God rest her soul, long ago they should have reinstated her. If they did that then maybe she would be alive today, because she would have had her gun and could have shot that grandson of hers.
These dick primadonnas can GF themselves for all I care.
It's gonna be outside contractors to do the investigations by a firm of ex-NYPD detectives led by Vernon Geberth. All roll calls will face East and pray towards #1 Police Plaza. All CPD clocks will be set to Brooklyn time. No members of the service will be allowed to eat deep dish pizza. Baseball will be played in the street with a stick.
That is the funiest thing i've read in a long time. No go out and make the colllar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Being a Robbery Det. All I can tell you patrol officers is keep doing all the good work you do, but just when you get that "good" pinch and you get that shit detective, there goes your hard work. You guys have to remember they fuck with us just like they fuck with you. Good Det's are worth their weight in gold if you know a good one.
Oh, and by the way you are wrong about one thing, Detective may be a P.O. assigned as detective, but that test we took IS a civil service rank test. You pass it they must promote you when your numbers up. You can be reassigned as often as they like, but they cannot reduce your pay or put you back to a beat officer. This is something they know and so does every detective unless they are morons. Protected position just like a sergeant... Do some research on this and you will learn.
The detective division is so short handed right now, I work overtime Every day. And yes lineups, photo spreads all add up to overtime. Everyone has their own case load and works their cases as they see fit. If they want overtime, Bam overtime. They want to go home on time, no problem. No one wants to do others work so, Overtime. Interviews at a prison down state? Bam overtime. Warrant pickup in outside jurisdiction? Bam overtime. Major crime? Bam overtime. Court up the ass? Bam overtime. In custody by patrol? Bam overtime. Police shooting? Bam overtime. Person shot towards end of tour? Bam overtime. Investigative alert hits? Bam overtime. Codis hit? Overtime, Latent hit? overtime, Oh and every now and then we find time to lock someone up ourselves? overtime. The list goes on and on. I forget all the overtime jobs that occur every day.
As you can see the list goes on and on. Promote some guys and you can probably save money. This whole reorg. is a smoke and mirror, dog and pony show.
So keep working your asses off, I will keep making money off your hard work. Thank You.
We need to start taking reports for everything and bring the crime rate up to the actual level. No more talking them out of making a report.
11/14/2011 12:18:00 AM
How could they drop lower? Put all the dics in Blue shirts and in marked cars would increase police presence and more accountability! Reality what a concept!
11/14/2011 11:36:00 AM
LOLOLOL..Makin me laugh my balls off! Spoken words from a dufus whose last hospitalization report said, "MAN FELL DOWN".
LOL..You my friend, ARE A TRUE DUUUUUMBASSSSS..LOL
Keep writing, I love the comedic value..
No one is gonna get their pay cut. There are still former dispatchers getting D2 pay. If they take a Detective and put him back into a beat car he is still gonna get D2A
For all of you idiots thinking "oh the clearance rate will drop", keep dreaming! Why does the city makes these changes? Well because they know they can get away with it. Idiots will continue to work hard no matter what. No matter what. There is no unity on this job.
11/14/2011 11:54:00 AM
100% TRUE..
Time to act like a democrat and get a paycheck for doing nothing..
Its much more rewarding and makes you feel like one of your customers..
Detective is not a rank...they have no "special" contract. They are POs Assigned as Detective. They can be reassigned back to PO anytime...the department can do what they want with them.
Not true.
You cannot take away the D2A pay away...that part cannot happen. Period.
Contract is up in June of 2012 and they can change the pay scale then without any grevence or complaint as long as the people already made Detectives stay at present pay scale and ALL new promotions at new and improved lower scale.
11/14/2011 09:56:00 AM
WRONG. The contract, though 'expired', remains in effect until a new one is in place.
Honestly, all of you police officers should be ashamed of yourself always bashing one another. You should be sticking together and fighting for each other. You guys are always hoping someone gets screwed all the time. News Flash... You are all getting screwed and the "powers to be" love it that there is so much animosity between the ranks. Quit being a bunch of cry babies and cut throats. It's bad enough that the media makes you all look like a bunch of assholes. Quit acting the part.
The list is total BULLSHIT!!!
Why do so many of you keep buying into this garbage???
I like the part where it said Byrne did not know. That poster obviously never saw the so called list. It was signed by Byrne you idiot. Well, at least that's the way it looked...
McCarthy hate the Detectives??? You are about to find out how much he hates the Dics. If that is the case why in the hell would he spend 10s of millions of dollars re-modeling re-furnishing the areas including all new computers with high speed connections. In two short months you will not recognize any of the Areas including the former Area 3 and Area four. You don't spend 10s of millions of dollars on unit that you "HATE" and intend on dismantling.
Regarding the D2A and Detectives not being a rank. You could not be more WRONG. Before the contract expires Detective will be a Rank. Then you can all bitch about that especially when about 30% of the Dicks will be making D3. The remainder will be D2A as always.
Now go back to your beat car soon be called a Cruzer and study for the next Dics test.
It is called Union busting! Fuck our Mayor
NO CRIME TIL OVERTIME????????????
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cashed a lot of checks this way in days gone by. and we put fuckers in jail too. The good old days.
Retired now!
Anonymous said...
2:10 pm there is no place on this department for dirty cops!! That article fails to explain if the cops are not ticketing some because of "courtesy" or because the police are being "courteous" because they the citizen is handing them a little money. The only thing wrong with unions as far as I see is that if there is a corrupt cop it is very difficult to get rid of him/her because of unions. Just like with teachers, same thing. The corrupt individual sits inside somewhere for years getting paid from taxpayers. It should not take years--the system needs to be corrected. Look at PO. Hester, God rest her soul, long ago they should have reinstated her. If they did that then maybe she would be alive today, because she would have had her gun and could have shot that grandson of hers.
11/14/2011 04:13:00 PM
Look rookie
The union does not protect dirty copsm the union only protects the workers right. The city can get rid of anyone who is dirty, the city can get rid an one they can prove is abusing the medical, the city can get rid of anyone the can PROVE is a dirty but PROVE is what they must do who has a problem with that
Wasn't Mark Fuhrman on a Homicide Task Force? So how did his big case work out?
"These dick primadonnas can GF themselves for all I care."
Signed,
Disgruntled D-1 4evah!
Oh, and by the way you are wrong about one thing, Detective may be a P.O. assigned as detective, but that test we took IS a civil service rank test. You pass it they must promote you when your numbers up. You can be reassigned as often as they like, but they cannot reduce your pay or put you back to a beat officer. This is something they know and so does every detective unless they are morons. Protected position just like a sergeant... Do some research on this and you will learn.
11/14/2011 06:59:00 PM
Detective is not a civil service rank, they can be dumped back to p/o. But due to past practices it is very hard and the just cause must be overwhelming.
The only civil service are Sgt and Lt's. If a Sgt or Lt wanted to give up their rank and be a P/o, they would have to quit the job and get rehired. A Detective could quit being a detective and be reassigned as a p/o.
Look online, or thru old department orders and see if you can find the test announcements. Right in the instructions it shows Sgt and Lt is a civil service position.
Regarding the D2A and Detectives not being a rank. You could not be more WRONG. Before the contract expires Detective will be a Rank. Then you can all bitch about that especially when about 30% of the Dicks will be making D3. The remainder will be D2A as always.
Now go back to your beat car soon be called a Cruzer and study for the next Dics test.
Really? why will they be getting D-3? and if true, that's great because as a Sgt. i'll then get D3a, must maintain that separation right Det? just like when ets, k-9,mounted, marine all got D2, you insisted on D2a...
Regarding the D2A and Detectives not being a rank. You could not be more WRONG. Before the contract expires Detective will be a Rank. Then you can all bitch about that especially when about 30% of the Dicks will be making D3. The remainder will be D2A as always.
Now go back to your beat car soon be called a Cruzer and study for the next Dics test.
11/14/2011 10:34:00 PM
When is that next test going to be given? The last one was 8 years ago! You still have people waiting to be called off of it that had a number well under 300. This department is a fucking joke and you're better off buying lottery tickets than wasting your time studying for these exams that they give once a decade that have 20-30% of the spots already reserved for merit. I hope you do make D3 and I hope they don't fuck with D2A and it's great that you're a detective but when I go back to my soon to be called cruiser I ain't doing shit.
Forensic Investigators will be assigned with Violent crime dicks,
all VC and FI 's will receive Sgt pay . Sgt's in crime lab do not receive 3a pay dummy
crime lab/unit 177 is gone
December 4, 2007............ This was the last Detectives class made...... What a fucking joke of a Dept.!!
How many Dets. Have retired in the past 4 yrs.??
Keep studying for those promotion exams, you got a chance, Kid!! NOT!!
Regarding the D2A and Detectives not being a rank. You could not be more WRONG. Before the contract expires Detective will be a Rank. Then you can all bitch about that especially when about 30% of the Dicks will be making D3. The remainder will be D2A as always.
Now go back to your beat car soon be called a Cruzer and study for the next Dics test.
Really? why will they be getting D-3? and if true, that's great because as a Sgt. i'll then get D3a, must maintain that separation right Det? just like when ets, k-9,mounted, marine all got D2, you insisted on D2a...
You must be a new Sgt. Think back when we got the D2A, you filed suit and lost and we still got D2A, you did not get D3A... Remember.
Detective is not a civil service rank, they can be dumped back to p/o. But due to past practices it is very hard and the just cause must be overwhelming.
The only civil service are Sgt and Lt's. If a Sgt or Lt wanted to give up their rank and be a P/o, they would have to quit the job and get rehired. A Detective could quit being a detective and be reassigned as a p/o.
Look online, or thru old department orders and see if you can find the test announcements. Right in the instructions it shows Sgt and Lt is a civil service position.
That's just great information. You will soon see that you are wrong. We can argue till we are blue in the face, but I know i'm right. May not look like a civil service rank on its face, but the test is, rest assured... You are protected just like a supervisor. Sleep peacefully detectives you are safe tonight.
Regarding the D2A and Detectives not being a rank. You could not be more WRONG. Before the contract expires Detective will be a Rank. Then you can all bitch about that especially when about 30% of the Dicks will be making D3. The remainder will be D2A as always.
Now go back to your beat car soon be called a Cruzer and study for the next Dics test.
Really? why will they be getting D-3? and if true, that's great because as a Sgt. i'll then get D3a, must maintain that separation right Det? just like when ets, k-9,mounted, marine all got D2, you insisted on D2a...
11/15/2011 01:59:00 AM
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I've heard NYC Detectives can make as much as LT's ... so no ..... NO D3A FOR YOU!
Being a Robbery Det. All I can tell you patrol officers is keep doing all the good work you do, but just when you get that "good" pinch and you get that shit detective, there goes your hard work. You guys have to remember they fuck with us just like they fuck with you. Good Det's are worth their weight in gold if you know a good one.
Oh, and by the way you are wrong about one thing, Detective may be a P.O. assigned as detective, but that test we took IS a civil service rank test. You pass it they must promote you when your numbers up. You can be reassigned as often as they like, but they cannot reduce your pay or put you back to a beat officer. This is something they know and so does every detective unless they are morons. Protected position just like a sergeant... Do some research on this and you will learn
Seems the only ones who don't know about this little protected secret is the patrolmen. They can call us anything they want, call me a garbage collector, but they will continue to pay me. Just like the new XO's. New name, no reduction in pay. 'Cause they are protected just like a detective is. The department does not call a detective a civil servant rank, but that test they took gives them all the same protection because it was a civil service qualified test. Just sit back and watch. Hey, at least you dont have to call them sir, Yet.
sarge not only will you not receive 3a pay , you will lose 45min a day overtime and the quarterly paychecks you receive for doing nothing
come back to earth sarge
rahms taking away not giving
homicide task force detectives deserve d3 pay because they will soon be processing crime scenes
mccarthy is making friends with all dicks in the new homicide task force
it will be a better assignment than a beat sgt
McCarthy hate the Detectives??? You are about to find out how much he hates the Dics. If that is the case why in the hell would he spend 10s of millions of dollars re-modeling re-furnishing the areas including all new computers with high speed connections. In two short months you will not recognize any of the Areas including the former Area 3 and Area four. You don't spend 10s of millions of dollars on unit that you "HATE" and intend on dismantling.
Just a quick update, he has not spent 1 dollar yet. So??????
McCarthy likes the D unit
"Just a quick update, he has not spent 1 dollar yet. So??????"
O.K. if you say so!!! He must be getting it all for free, that's even better... Now I can work more overtime.
To the moron who said the new homicide task force will be a better job than a beat sgt. News flash, any job is better than a beat sgt.
First dick, cruiser is not spelled cruzer, and second this is why Po's can't stand many of you, your arrogance. And your rank is only a Po as well.
NYC 6,000 DETS out of 39,000 COPS
RATIO ABOUT 6 to 1
CHGO 1,000 DETS out of 10,000 COPS
RATION 10 to 1
AND CHGO HAS TOO MANY DETS?????
First dick, cruiser is not spelled cruzer, and second this is why Po's can't stand many of you, your arrogance. And your rank is only a Po as well.
OK, believe what makes you feel better when you get up in the morning. Yes you are right my RANK is a P.O. and very proud of it. Don't hate because we make a ton of money. Don't hate because you didn't study hard enough. Just rest assured even if we come back to a beat car I will be making the same money I make now...
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