Story Grows; Cover-up Too?
If only we all had the clout of the Altman family. We'd be able to commit batteries against the police, then watch as the Fire Department brass appears to stonewall and obstruct an investigation:
Earlier this week, Altman, a captain assigned to the fire department’s Squad One, answered the door at his Northwest Side home and said the Nov. 1 incident — now being investigated by the Internal Affairs Divisions of both departments — “really was” overblown.
He refused to discuss specifics, telling a BGA investigator, “You have to go through the Fire Department.”
Fire Department spokesman Larry Langford would confirm only that the incident was the subject of an internal investigation.
- Adding further intrigue to the incident is a Nov. 9 e-mail to Fire Department brass from District Chief Joshua Dennis, executive assistant to current Fire Commissioner Robert Hoff. It states, “Per the Fire Commissioner, no correspondence, documents, interviews or other requests from the inspector general shall be honored unless approved by the Fire Commissioner. Any contact initiated by the Office of the Inspector General should be directed to the Office of the Fire Commissioner.”
Really? Maybe someone will answer questions in front of a Grand Jury at some point. The cover up is almost always worse than the crime, especially something like this that probably could have been headed off two weeks ago with an apology and a "decline to prosecute" type deal.
Fortunately, the men and women of the CPD and CFD (the unclouted ones) realize this is more or less one out-of-control fire captain trying to stuff the ten pounds of shit he spilled into a five pound sack.
Meanwhile, the Tribune took down their comment sections (again) because, amazingly, some people actually pointed out that police can be victims of batteries and the fire captain was committing a felony.
Channel 2 has the first public comments by McHeadcase:
Fortunately, the men and women of the CPD and CFD (the unclouted ones) realize this is more or less one out-of-control fire captain trying to stuff the ten pounds of shit he spilled into a five pound sack.
Meanwhile, the Tribune took down their comment sections (again) because, amazingly, some people actually pointed out that police can be victims of batteries and the fire captain was committing a felony.
Channel 2 has the first public comments by McHeadcase:
- “It’s an internal investigation … we’re not going to talk about it now,” McCarthy said Tuesday.
So evidently, Rahm's gag order on McBlabbermouth remains in effect. Lord only knows what he would have accused the Marine Officer of if he had been allowed to talk freely.
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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Make the arrest !someone so we can move on. Divide and Conquer once again. Some political hack causing problems.
Yes suddenly he can not comment on on-going investigations. Did he just see the light or is his leash being held closely
So, when commenting on the Fire Department, McVain declines to comment, based on the ongoing internal investigation. He said EXACTLY what he should have said when he was questioned about the police officer's shooting incident.
Perhaps Emanuel made him parrot the canned response a few hundred times 'til he learned it?
Maybe Emanuel should invest in a media relations class for McMarvelous, so he can learn what he SHOULD already have learned in a couple of decades of police work. And the bonus, of course, would be all that camera time McCarthy would get while practicing.
Lol! McCarthy's comment is freakin' hilarious because it's such an obvious 360 from him making comments about other "on going investigations".
YOU SEE STUPID, NOW WAS THAT SO HARD TO SAY?
Everyone should be asking themselves is this the kind of police/fire department that we want to turn over to OUR kids?
Sure we're all tuff guys and take it and maybe even know how to play the game. However what about our sons and daughters when we are no longer around? We gonna leave this mess for them to deal with it.
We're suppose to leave this place in a better place from whence we came..
Anonymous said...
Wasn't there, don't know the real story, but if you had a bunch of police officers just standing around and no one locked the goof up - shame on all of you. You may work in a clout heavy unit but at the core you are still the police. Shame on every cop who was on the scene.
Why lock the cfd cap up? Hit him back knock him down. Is the marine copper that soft. Hit the goof back. Why go through all the nonsense in locking him up.
are wing tips acceptable?
I noticed that there is no longer any mention that Altman MAY HAVE been drunk on duty. Did I originally read that or is it because he disappeared (or was hustled out of there by CFD) before any sobriety tests could be performed...?
It's always interesting to watch things like this. ONE person commits (e.g.) a crime (Altman), sex assault (Sandusky) etc. and EVERYONE around them enables the offender to protect the institution or their own ridiculous interests. And for what? The offender, being the loser that he/she is, will always take down everyone with him/her when push comes to shove because their troubling behavior is usually global, chronic and persistent. Further, they lack any moral or ethical character or they wouldn't have done what they did in the first place. Taken alone, they are usually the type of people that you wouldn't want to associate with, let alone protect. Yet, people circle the wagons.
Why idiots are enabled by co-workers, friends, family, I don't know, but it never works to anyone's advantage in the end.
---not a cop
As a police officer who was on the scene - but not one of the 4 who was an eyewitness to the contact - this really is being blown way out of proportion. The marine unit PO is making a mountain out of this.
All Animals are created equal, but some Animals are more equal than others.
Nothing will happen. Clout rules. Wouldn't surprise me if the marine unit officer gets whistled in to McMuff's office or to the ballerinas office and threatened with losing his spot. I hope that marine unit officer documents every single conversation and phone call, and makes sure to forward copies to a trusted 3rd party.
I hope he sticks to his guns (ha!) and doesn't let this jag bag get away with it.
Has the asshole CFD boss entered rehab yet?
This whole CFD /Shitcago refusal to speak reeks of
"The Soviets". Commisar Emanuel has Spoken !!!
Now we know why "batters daley" was in Russia, he was getting the labor camps ready in Siberia !!!!!!
Just saw Obama in Australia while our national anthem played, and he had his hand over his heart, barely, and had a disgusted look on his face. That man is a pig.
That is just amazing.
IVE SEEN FELONY APROVALS ON:
GRABBING AN OFFICERS VEST
A 100 POUND FEMALE PUSHING A 250 LB OFFICER
SPITTING ON OFFICER CLOTHES
AND YET THIS ASS CLOWN OF A WHITE SHIRT GETS ALL THIS HIDE AND SEEK BULLSHIT PER THE RAHM REGIME!
YOU DO KNOW RAHM APPROVED ALL THIS TOO!
AND R SUPE
WELL HE IS SILENT I GUESS THAT IS A GOOD THING SINCE HE SUFFERS FROM FOOT IN MOUTH DISEASE
It's one thng to put out an order not to talk about an on going investigation to any media types but to refuse to cooperate with the Inspector General? Now THAT takes balls.
Anyone looking into Chief of Staff Mintle's husband Mike Toolis' architectural commissions from City of Chicago/Cook County? He's CEO of VOA, which has a long history of city commissions. VOA had a key role in Navy Pier debacle in 1990s too.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Lol! McCarthy's comment is freakin' hilarious because it's such an obvious 360 from him making comments about other "on going investigations".
YOU SEE STUPID, NOW WAS THAT SO HARD TO SAY?
11/16/2011 12:59:00 AM
I think you mean 180, not 360.
SUCH BULLSHIT!
Had this gone the other way around, the P.O. would have been stripped, and 30 pending dismissal!
This "clouted jagoff" thinks he can hide and get away with it!
I hope they jail his ass and take his pension away!
Oh *YOU KNOW* McNoShame would have thrown that PO under the bus, then piss on him for good measure.
We're suppose to leave this place in a better place from whence we came..
11/16/2011 01:52:00 AM
Apparently Altman's daddy left it really good for his kid....
Make the arrest!someone so we can move on.
11/16/2011 12:23:00 AM
It's probably too late for an arrest. An arrest should have been made immediately after the battery, if at all. Since the charge would be felony battery, the on-duty watch commander has the option of saying insufficient probable cause, and RWOC.
Many years ago I witnessed the arrest of a clout-heavy individual for disorderly conduct (when we were doing paper arrests) and the watch commander (no longer in 018) handled it "internally"...no arrest report, per the W.C. ... his orders were obeyed, and it was gladly let go.
Nonetheless, if ANYONE reading this wants to know what their options are: if YOU witness a clout-heavy individual committing an arrestable offense for which you can sign the complaint, or you have a signed complainant on-scene, YOU always have the option of arresting that person, just slap the handcuffs on and be prepared to follow through with whatever happens. Tell the dispatcher you would like a name-check (use the name and info. of the offender). If there is a sgt. or lt. on the scene who wants to unlawfully "un-arrest" that person AFTER you've taken them into secured custody per Illnois Law and your police training, be prepared to tell your on-scene supervisor that they do not have the legal authority to quash a lawful arrest on the scene, and get their name and star number for the C.R. you may have to file against that supervisor. Then get on the radio and ask for his or her supervisor. Then at the station, if the W.C. wants to RWOC, be prepared to file a C.R. against the W.C. You can see where all this leads, IF you want to pursue an arrest when your supervisors are all against it. A ton of headaches and incredible stress for you, and your name will be "mud" in your district, probably for the rest of your career. It's an option that most officers will not choose, for obvious reasons.
Battery simple. Plea of not guilty. ASA in Br 29 reviews the case after he gets a phone call and you know-MS SOL No trial. Copper takes time for interfering with fire dept rescue operation.Fire Capt is exonerated and promoted to Battalion Chief.The Chicago Way
Hey J.S. I think it's time to get Operation Push involved and the A.C.L.U. !
Any change Huff is friends with the offender/Captin's Daddy? HAHAHAHAHAHAH! reverse the roles. I wonder where the copper in the Marine Unit would be right now if he did that to the Fire Captin? If a copper even did that to a citizen the media would be all over the story. It's more of the same rules and clout related corruption in shitcago. Sad
Any change Huff is friends with the offender/Captin's Daddy? HAHAHAHAHAHAH! reverse the roles. I wonder where the copper in the Marine Unit would be right now if he did that to the Fire Captin? If a copper even did that to a citizen the media would be all over the story. It's more of the same rules and clout related corruption in shitcago. Sad
BGA should FOIA Captain Altman's promotional test results. He has to be merit. He is obviouly too stupid to pass on his own. It would be interesting to find out which hack put him in. Did he daddy do it himself? Shakeman?? Feds??
I stated this before, McJersey can related better to a drunken fire captain than a sober P.O..
keep digging media...the cover up is in full swing!
Hey SCC,
What's going on with the test from last December? Given my "random" number, it'll be years till I'm hired at the pace this city moves.
Thanks
Why lock the cfd cap up? Hit him back knock him down. Is the marine copper that soft. Hit the goof back. Why go through all the nonsense in locking him up.
11/16/2011 02:21:00 AM
No, you are always wrong for hiting clout back. Imagine you are a serf in fuedal europe and a knight rides up and slaps you with your glove. If that PO hit back HE'D be in jail, faster than you can blink.
Most clout is stupid. That is why they are there, if they were smart that would never get the white shirt. Use that to your advantage!
I better never come across this guy in an official police capacity (be it traffic or domestic) because he will get NO break
Make the arrest !someone so we can move on. Divide and Conquer once again. Some political hack causing problems.
11/16/2011 12:23:00 AM
I dont think its "Divide and Conquer", I think its "Afraid to make a Decision" or "Afraid to lock up the Clouted."
At this point, just do something, dammit! Lock him up, fire him, suspend him, flog him publicly in Daley Plaza… Just get off your ass and DO SOMETHING!
Looks like the higher-ups in the CFD & CPD are covering up the assault of a white "cloutorious" shitfaced drunk CFD Capt. on a black CPD officer.
Isn't that an example of the "government sponsored racism" McCarthy preached about in that church?
And, why aren't Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton on this (fucking Chicago Way Uncle Toms).
Can you imagine how the Dem's would be yelling racism if something like this happend between white on black baseball player or presidential candidate?
Demecrats are the ultimate race pimps.
“I was totally shocked by this. My intention was to save two people. That was taken away from me by that particular fireman. I later found out he’s a politically connected fireman. That doesn’t change the facts. I am a good guy. I just want justice to be done and fairness.”
Spot on officer! I salute you. YOU represent the best of the CPD. No go sue there asses off in civil court.
NOTALEO
Four words...
Battle of the Badges!
Huh? Since when doesn't McStupe comment on ongoing investigations? Throw a hard-working copper right under the bus and then back it over him, but when it comes to a clouted CFD captain he doesn't have a word to say? And are these Altmans related to the mobster Altman?
I still don't know why the marine unit guy didn't knock his ass into the river!
OCCUPY CPD/CFD...Unclouted 99%!!!!
I read this story here right as it unfolded. Only last night did that ancient fucker Walter Jacobson mention it. I have worked all over the country and thought to myself that this could occur only here in this shithole. Any other suspect would have been locked up right away regardless of who they knew.
Bottom line is this place sucks and I never would make this job a career, because you can't do your job here.
It's hardly a coverup. They are not being told to not cooperate. They are being instructed to notify the Commissioners' Office of any incoming requests, and obtain approval. Not all that different from the CPD's Court Notification process. Seems fair that the Commissioner's Office would want to have some say in any firemen being called away from their regular duties, no matter the reason, in order to accomodate logistics and contractual obligations. Examples: Need to coordinate meeting times with the firemens' tours of duty; Arrange for additional or substitute personnel for those firemen called away to meetings; Firemen have contractual and legal rights, too.
Um, wasn't this the EXACT kind of scenario that Rahm is supposedly against? Take down the clout rings one by one? This Altman clown is just asking to get smeared, as others have said, it could have been rectified long before this. The fact that it's continuing on makes Rahm and McLooneyTunes look even worse.
Pissed off civilian post. Good luck out there.
This story being released is nothing more than Rahm trying to divide Police and Fire. Don't let that happen! We must stand together, f@ck this a**hole and any clouted CPD/CFD who try and divide us. Collectively we are formidable, divided we are a joke.
Mc goof would have said ....what business does this marine unit guy have dipping his nose in other peoples business,he should have asked is it ok to save some ones life first!
Your a man before you are a police officer.
•“It’s an internal investigation … we’re not going to talk about it now,” McCarthy said Tuesday.
What a fucking putz. This guy has his head so far up his ass he eats twice.
It's only pay pack from the CFD for having one of their own locked up for battery against a CPD Lt earlier this year at a local watering hole. Anyone care to guess who was involved in that fracas?
Got to agree with 11/19/2011 0221A.M.
When this happened why didn't the coppers on the scene lock Altman up, and why didn't the copper fight back? Can anyone who was there answer that?
"Everyone should be asking themselves is this the kind of police/fire department that we want to turn over to OUR kids?"
I wouldn't want anyone I care about to ever work for the CPD. MY kids will have the good sense to move out-of-state should they consider applying for a job in law enforcement.
Why don't they settle it at the battle of the badges (boxing)
Talk about more clout. District Chief Josh Dennis has about 13 years on the job, is at career service level of a fireman. But somehow has 4 bugles on his collar. The Chicago way! CFD's Huberman.
Could our own Racoon Eyes be involved in a new scandal? Book that just came out says that Mayor "Racoon Eyes" Emmanuel sold Fannie Mae stock back in 2003 days before the stock fell by a big margin. Racoon Eyes was on the Fannie Mae board of directors back then. Conflict of interest? The Racoon made a $250,000 profit from his insider trading on that deal. No wonder this mutt is worth $20 mil. Another typical plotician cashing in while the rest of us scrape by. What else is new.
Anonymous said...
Wasn't there, don't know the real story, but if you had a bunch of police officers just standing around and no one locked the goof up - shame on all of you. You may work in a clout heavy unit but at the core you are still the police. Shame on every cop who was on the scene
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So true.
Exactly like the Penn State debacle when you think about it.
People in a position of trust and authority flushing morality out the window thereby protecting the clout. Doing barely what is expected of them to protect themselves legally. High fives to the officer with the guts enough to take a stand!
You know how this stuff starts though?
It starts with the "professional courtesy" krap and then gets way out of hand as each little break that is given gets taken as being acceptable and therefore expected.
There's a feeling of being special and a feeling of entitlement.
Greed then kicks in and people want more and more "professional courtesies" as they climb the ladders of their professions.
It is so nice when the clout and the courtesies are given in our favor isn't it, yet it is such a double edge sword.
When the hustle and bustle of this job ends and we are no longer distracted from the day to day b.s. we tend to look back at these things and ask ourselves if we have done the right thing. Can we respect ourselves? It is our actions and responses that will determine what is acceptable in our society. You are setting the standards for which your children will be judged.
Live by the sword, die by the sword as they say.
How in the hell can a Chicago Fire Dept. Captain go home to his family and sleep at night after something like this?
What do you tell your kids?
Hey guess what...daddy punched out a cop today and got away with it because he's special and respect for the laws, authority and respect for the system doesn't apply to him.
..look at me..look at me.
Then the kids brag to all their friends about dad and how they're special too.
...and hizzhonor and the superintendent go home and tell their kids and families... hey guess what...I had to issue special orders today to cover up some b.s to protect a politically clouted one.
Yeah...keep this stuff hidden and protect the powers. Their image may otherwise be tarnished.
Well guess what?
It's not the 20th century anymore boys and you no longer have 100% control over censoring the media and spinning a story.
You don't have to go home and tell your kids anything. Your kids, family, neighbors and friends will just Google you and there's your reputation for all to see.
It will follow you into eternity.
Some may overlook the bad as long as you are in a position of power however once they kick you out of your job your reputation is all you're going to have left.
Think about that.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
As a police officer who was on the scene - but not one of the 4 who was an eyewitness to the contact - this really is being blown way out of proportion. The marine unit PO is making a mountain out of this.
11/16/2011 06:12:00 AM
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So your saying it's ok to be pushed and yelled at? You are soft as pie... Maybe you should of been a fireman instead.
Is it true the officer was threatened if he went thru with the complaint?
Hey SCC, did you see this?
http://www.centersquarejournal.com/news/supt-mccarthy-addresses-police-district-consolidation-concerns
Wasn't Altman the Fire Commish when that video was making the rounds of a bunch of jughead drunken fireman did the Irish jig and went hip pity hopping all over the fire house. It's time for that video to get on TV again. I would suggest it get shown morning, noon and night for about two weeks with the name of the CFD Commish at the time overlaid on the video: ALTMAN
Battle of the badges...
Altman should be blind folded while in the ring!!
Don't hold your breath folks, this will never get to any type of grand jury. If best it might be a simple battery and tossed out of court. You will see many battles due to this merger of Police marine unit & fire dept. They are going to cram Police, Fire and Coast guard all into one little building.
Hey SCC,
What's going on with the test from last December? Given my "random" number, it'll be years till I'm hired at the pace this city moves.
Thanks
11/16/2011 09:19:00 AM
so, take a deep breath and hold it.
Ok this has gone on long enough. Why is Rahm letting this fester. The Fire Brat was wrong...and drunk. It makes us all--Mayor included-- look like a bunch of clowns. Rahm is the The Boss now. He needs to step in a squash this. What is holding him back?
Altman should be FIRED!
Anonymous said...
Could our own Racoon Eyes be involved in a new scandal? Book that just came out says that Mayor "Racoon Eyes" Emmanuel sold Fannie Mae stock back in 2003 days before the stock fell by a big margin. Racoon Eyes was on the Fannie Mae board of directors back then. Conflict of interest? The Racoon made a $250,000 profit from his insider trading on that deal. No wonder this mutt is worth $20 mil. Another typical plotician cashing in while the rest of us scrape by. What else is new.
11/16/2011 02:58:00 PM
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In case you did see this yet, Members of Congress can do insider trading and not get in trouble.
60 min did a expo, sorry ad in the begining
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7388205n
Why don't we have a fight night at Bourbon Street...set up a boxing/wrestling ring and let Altman and Smith go at it? Set it up for charity and charge $20 bucks admission and forgo any disciplinary action on either one of these guys!!!! The real Chicago way!!!
Don't back down Officer.
Alcoholism is a progressive disease.
As a police officer who was on the scene - but not one of the 4 who was an eyewitness to the contact - this really is being blown way out of proportion. The marine unit PO is making a mountain out of this.
11/16/2011 06:12:00 AM
SO YOU DID NOT SEE IT???? Then STFU you loser, Guess your one of those pussy PO's who just get's pushed around all the time. Get back into the locker, just like in high school.
Everyone should be asking themselves is this the kind of police/fire department that we want to turn over to OUR kids?
Who the f%*& would want their kids on this job?? Let them go to school.
Since this incident happened on a waterway over an Aaaaaaaargument, it has to be piracy! The new Pirates movie is to be called " Pirates of the Hooker Highway" and stars David Aaaaarquette as Altman and Aaaaaaar Kelly as Smith. Pirates Rock and...Lighten Up Francis!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wasn't Altman the Fire Commish when that video was making the rounds of a bunch of jughead drunken fireman did the Irish jig and went hip pity hopping all over the fire house. It's time for that video to get on TV again. I would suggest it get shown morning, noon and night for about two weeks with the name of the CFD Commish at the time overlaid on the video: ALTMAN
11/16/2011 04:51:00 PM
really????You have to be fucking kidding me right? What exactly would that do?? Please tell us.Lets start replaying every bad video out there every time a cop screws up so the whole department looks bad. Because thats what will happen with this my friend. Because one jagbag you want to make the whole fire department look bad.
Unbelievable!!!!
Anonymous said...
Wasn't there, don't know the real story, but if you had a bunch of police officers just standing around and no one locked the goof up - shame on all of you. You may work in a clout heavy unit but at the core you are still the police. Shame on every cop who was on the scene.
Why lock the cfd cap up? Hit him back knock him down. Is the marine copper that soft. Hit the goof back. Why go through all the nonsense in locking him up.
11/16/2011 02:21:00 AM
That's the way I feel too. He shoulda just punched him out and gotten it over with. All this drama is getting old.
Your a man before you are a police officer.
11/16/2011 12:48:00 PM
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Hmmmm, now maxed out, but never been male.
As a proud CFD member for over thirty years , I am ashamed of this asshat. I stood in Springfield just a few weeks ago with our IAFF local 2 shoulder to shoulder with FOP Lodge 7, all fighting for our pension rights. I have always taken special care of CPD members. What really saddens me about this situation was a story told by the offgoing shift this AM. A psyche pt got violent and the sergeant on scene told his guys not to do a f**ing thing. We are all on the same team boys and girls and can we please play nice together!
really????You have to be fucking kidding me right? What exactly would that do?? Please tell us.Lets start replaying every bad video out there every time a cop screws up so the whole department looks bad. Because thats what will happen with this my friend. Because one jagbag you want to make the whole fire department look bad.
Unbelievable!!!!
11/16/2011 09:37:00 PM
I think he was referring to how the media drags out the Abbate tape every chance they got, so why not drag out a CFD tape every chance they get....... Try and keep up hairgel, 'K?
so anybody ever see other than POs being retreaded at the Academy after a leave of absence. Do the higher ups have to go get a physical too. Seems only the POWs and Militray have to do this. Hello BGA hello FLOP BTW there is also ton of paperwork and you have todo to be rehired??
"Everyone should be asking themselves is this the kind of police/fire department that we want to turn over to OUR kids?"
I'm getting my kids out of this city & county and probably the state as soon as I can. What happens here will no longer concern me. My kids will never come on a city job. I won't let them.
"We're suppose to leave this place in a better place from whence we came.."
This is out of our control. Daley & Company robbed, raped and pillaged this city for years and only left when there was no more to steal and the house of cards began to fall. We're just gonna leave this place.
"Why lock the cfd cap up? Hit him back knock him down. Is the marine copper that soft. Hit the goof back."
Defend himself? Yes! Twenty years ago it would've been settled right there & then. Unfortunately those days are long gone.
When the workplace demographics changed, the days of settling something "like men" went away. Not just at CPd, but in virtually every workplace in America.
Once we began protecting those who were perceived as weaker with "personnel" and "human resources" departments, we began a slide down a slope from which we'll neve return.
Look what they're teaching children in schools; if you defend yourself you're just as liable as the bully that started the fight. "Just sit there & take it, we'll get him later" is their cry.
Of course this is crazy thinking. We no longer recommend potential rape victims just "take it". We tell them to fight back and fight off their attacker. So we're going to tell our children NOT to defend themselves in school, but once they're adults, go ahead and fight for your life? What if the attack occurs in a school? Are we sending mixed messages to kids?
If we continue on this path, it'll be the demise of society as we know it.
rb
Why don't we have a fight night at Bourbon Street...set up a boxing/wrestling ring and let Altman and Smith go at it?
We won't because people of good breeding don't go to Bourbon Street, or Morettis, or other similar shitholes...
I know the Marine unit officer, he is one stand up officer and family man. He is tough as nails and would have no problem cleaning the clock of the drunk fire capt. However, the clout heavy fire capt would have been the victim and this could have ended up in another Cozzi type situation.
The cop from the marine unit that was attacked by that fire captain is a member of my family. The cop knew cameras were rolling and decided not to knock that captain flat on his ass, just for that reason. I pray that the fire captain gets time in jail and sued. IThis is specially hurtful since we have always supported the fire department. But with this guy, coverups seem to be generational in his family. I remember when his daddy saved his brother's job when his brother was involved in all that black face mess!! I still support the firefighters because all of them didn't attack my family member, just him!!!
Just lock up the jagoff fireman and get it overwith.
What's the RD#? a named offender is a named offender, I'll go grab this jacko tonight, then take lunch.
A named offender, signed complaints, notify victim and area dick's if need be, but there useless anyway, to worried about losing there cushy spots with the D unit's consolidating.
Number's Number's Number's CB'S CB'S CB'S GO TACT GO!!!!!
Was this guy locked up or not?
To all the posters saying this is causing a rift--that's not the impression I get. This is one idiot captain. No CPD hold his actions against CFD in general. Stop trying to make this into something it's not.
We're fine. We're grown-ups. We understand CFD has idiot clout-babies. We don't hold that against all CFD. And any CPD who does, is an asshole.
We have to stick together. And if some sgt. ordered no one to intervene when you had a violent patient, you should report it. Hopefully it is a misunderstanding, not a payback.
As far as I'm concerned, CFD are my brothers and sisters, just like my CPD brothers and sisters. We all are in the middle of a shitstorm and need each other.
I hope everyone realizes that. Thanks CFD for all you do for us. Hope the feeling is mutual. Come contract time, we might end up being the "Blue Occupy Contingent."
No worries.
Can I just say that this whole incident and how it was handled by the police is embarrassing. Man up, don't write a report and ask someone else to do your dirty work. Precious
There is an actual police report on this incident on file. And guess what folks? Regardless of clout, that report is being kept firm and that fire captain can still be arrested at any time, and he will be!. Just stay tuned. Rahm needs to man-up. He's talked that talk...when is he going to walk the walk he's talked about? Gag order on McCarthy...GIVE ME A BREAK! When they finally lock up that captain, they need to get rid of Rahm and McCarthy. They should have taken immediate action on the scene. And just for the record, the attacked officer wasn't and isn't soft. That fire captain attacked the officer while the officer was in a squatted position doing his job! He was never physically on even footing with that fire captain. That let's you know what a real coward that captain is! And I know the officer, if he had been able to defend himself, he would have hit him only once; that captain's lights would have been out for more than two weeks! Hey Altman, you and your family are pigs! You treated and continue to treat firefighters like shit but you're the one that's shit!
the officer will be promoted!
ANYONE REMEMBER THE OFFICER IN THE BEA CUELLO "MY DAUGHTER IS A DRUG DEALER" DEBACLE.
CASE DROPPED OFFICER PROMOTED.
YEA IT WAS REAL HARD TO FIGURE OUT.
Just like the asshole firemen who attacked a 019 Dist foot guy several years ago on Clark St after a Cubs game. The stupid drunks were arrested, charged, then when it got to court the judge dismissed it. P.O. was in court and not even given an explanation of why the case was dismissed! Fuck this city! Let it burn come May!
FYI the witness officer were ordered to give statements to fire IAD eventhough they were told not to by the detectives investigating the battery. That is right the bosses are colluding to cover this up.
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