FOP Meeting? Time for a Motion
There is an FOP Meeting today at noon.
Seeing as how 50 people were shot this weekend despite brand new "crime strategies," contract violations seem to happen on a near daily basis, and the manpower shortages have reached critical levels (levels that can arguably have contributed directly to the critical wounding of one of our brethren,) wouldn't it seem that a "no confidence" vote might be in order for the mayor, the city council and McButchMcGuire's?
It might bring a little more light to an already bad situation.
Seeing as how 50 people were shot this weekend despite brand new "crime strategies," contract violations seem to happen on a near daily basis, and the manpower shortages have reached critical levels (levels that can arguably have contributed directly to the critical wounding of one of our brethren,) wouldn't it seem that a "no confidence" vote might be in order for the mayor, the city council and McButchMcGuire's?
It might bring a little more light to an already bad situation.
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178 Comments:
While we are at it, no confidence with FOP EITHER
I agree that manpower is low and the department morale is at an all time low. However, police have been shot in previous years when manpower was higher. People will always shoot. No police want to put our hands on people these days and this has to do with all the cameras out there. Bosses say go out there and clear the corners and put your hands on people. No one I know is risking their job/future/pension over nonsense on a corner. If you start grabbing people and it's videotaped be prepared to be made an example of.
I think that it is a little early for a no confidence vote. The public is on the side of the new mayor and new superintendent, at least at this point. Try other tactics.
How about a no confidence vote for FOP? Not one word from FOP on the retirements or manpower shortages. Mousey Mike and the useless board are all quiet. Just a sick reminder how corrupt this city is. Mikey you and that useless Board, need to resign.
Are you kidding SCC? We know damn well Shields and Security company won't dare speak against this Mayor.
Feeling pretty good right now!voted republican today.
the entertainment continues... the new Capt. & new Lt. of public transportation engaged in a verbal altercation over a parking space.
Off Topic-
Can all of you nimrods please quit wishing SCC well on the recent "retirement"....
Good God, are there that many soft people out there.
If you don't get it - you'll never get it.
I agree. The manipulation of the stats showing that crime is down serves 9.5's purpose to say we don't need more police. Because the stats are not true, this leads to that wrongful conclusion. Faulty stats = faulty strategies.
The Compstat book is a better predictor of what is going to happen--in Chicago it IS happening--as a result of misusing Compstat.
These professors did extensive research--and have predicted more, more accurately, than our crystal ball unit ever did, or ever could.
McCarthy is chasing his tail. His strategies will never work because they are based on lies and illusions. Now he has backed himself into a corner and has to continue his assertions that we don't need more police.
If he didn't open his big yap in the first place, he would have left himself some wiggle room. Now he is fucked, and I believe he has one foot out the door. The violence is only going to get worse--the question is, when will 9.5 give him the boot?
If you analyze Dean Andrews recent statements, it definitely appears he is angling for the top spot (God help us if it happens). Another know-nothing political hack--and is it me, or is he looking a little chunky--and OLD?
The next person to lead this dept. should be a lt. or sgt. from patrol, who understands the streets, not the stats.
For all of the months of pushing Compstat, compiling reports, numbers, charts, etc., it is clearly a failure of immense proportion!
We need to hire hundreds of more Police now!!! It is criminal as to how low the mayor has let our numbers fall. It is going to get a lot worse until there is massive hiring and better leadership. How can the mayor be allowed to skirt the issue that we don't have near enough manpower to stop anything? The savages don't respect a Police presence because there is none, and they know it. All the shootings, violence, homicdes, can be blamed on Rham for his refusal to hire more Police and his play with the numbers.
McCarthy and Emanual keep standing up and giving speaches to the public. These speaches are nothing but lies, bullshit and excuses. It sickens me, really, it sickens me to hear the crap that comes out of there mouths. This entire city needs to wake the hell up and stop buying what these two idiots say as golden. Chicago residents, fellow tax payers and working class folks. Stop being sheep. Stand up for yourselves already. These liars need to go
So who was the very high ranking member of the CPD that was chasing the ladies at Paddy O'Fegan's saloon, 204 N. Halsted on St. Paddy's Day?
He was last seen taking 2 "take-out" cups of beverage when he jumped into his Tahoe with his posse. "On to Butch McGuire's, lads."
Preliminary reports indicate no "broken windows" or streetlights. Has he gone "low profile"?
Can we march again? Please! Pretty please!
One more march will make it all better.
"hey hey ho ho Garry Mac has got to go. Hey hey ho ho Garry Mac has got to go!"
I just love to march so much. I love it. That's really why I became a policeman, so I could march and chant.
If I've learned anything on this job, it's that the only way to get things done is to march march march. It's worked so well for the people I police.
I second that motion!!!
Just curious, we did that with Jody and it got us no where. I'm all for it but really, whats the point? The mayor or city council aren't going to do anything.
Lets not forget. Back in 2010 when 44 people were shot in the city and 7 killed in one weekend it was "dugans fault" and he was demoted. So if dugan was the fall guy for the 44 shot who will be the fall guy for the 49 shot? I mean whats fair is fair right? And how about scc another no confidence vote, for mike shields. Hes not much better. Once again the 12 year old was on the news last night after the supt gave a press conference and he was whining once again. Why in gods name did I vote for him??!! Yes, I blame myself, but I know that come next vote I will not be voting for him once again... Shields, you and McCarthy are the biggest joke in this department.
we are we gonna wake up and force are union to have some balls...fop where you at..im glad you can tell us who the vote for..
yeaahhh, I was thinkin of goin but ive got to go to the station house and do my tour in the precinct after I grab my cruiser and a cup of joe. Was thinkin of grabbin a slice of pie for lunch but im not sure maybe Ill just not take a lunch because its so busy out and see if I can get any good collars and grab a perp or two.
Talk about a wave of horrible supervisors available for patrol. A female sgt in 012 mother fucked and called a male officer all sorts of profanity in public. Now if the officer had talked to her the way she did to him, I am sure she would brought up charges against him and he would of been sent right away to callback await 30 days pending. But, she's able to do that and get away with that. And actually that male officer is a good cop. Plus the job was 3priority something, nothing of life and death, he got there on decent time too, but I guess she wanted for him to fly. Why stop at the stop signs or stop lights? Because if he would of crashed to fly for a priority 3 job I'm sure she would of mother fucked him anyways and jammed him up. I don't know, there's this wave of horrible supervisors that make you wonder how come they are not committed to a looney house or stripped at callback. Talk about morale killer. This is exactly the type of supervisors available in patrol. Most supervisors are much older, should be respectful and serve as an example. Supervisors should lead by example. People want respect, respect is earned. I am totally sure that these same individuals who in public belittle officers and motherfuck them, if tables turned they wouldn't appreciate that type of treatment. Must be nice to be able to fuck with people. This is when that type sgt needs to get a hobby, a family, lover and find some joy in their life then to be so miserable and project that at work. Being miserable and with the wants to make all those around them miserable, not good. Life is not that horrible. Have seen some messed up things, but that was bad.
1800 cameras are gonna be put up, all the revenue should go to the hiring of police or to citizen with a good driving record but it wont..lemmings chicago citizens.
Are you aware of this story
http://19thwardpolitics.blogspot.com/2012/03/off-topic-but-very-disturbing-state.html
Off Topic but very disturbing. State Controlled Media? Presidents daughter vacations in Mexico with 12 friends and 25 Secret Service Agents. Story now disappearing from the web. Is this the U.S or Iran?? Update: White house admitts they ordered media to pull story!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/white-house-admits-to-asking-news-agencies-to-pull-malia-obama-vacation-story/
I say keep it simple a no confidence vote for the mayor says it all.
Yesterday Rham denied a parade permit and one of the reasons was a shortage of police. Rahm fancies himself the smartest guy in the room, but he is no attorney. By saying what he said, he may have left himself open to liability for damages and injuries that may result from this party for the elite. Make no mistake about it, this is no "Emergency";this was planned months in advance and the consequences were obvious and expected.
I completely understand the position the FOP is taking with regards to not wanting to negotiate our contract in the media.But it's time to take off the gloves, we have an obligation to let the public know what is going on in the streets. Crime is absolutly out of control. The FOP should hold a news conference every Monday morning and go over the tallys for the past week. It's time to get nasty and all we have to do is present the facts, that will be nasty enough. Like my pop's always said, "if you find yourself involved in a fair fight, your doing something wrong". Tape up the rolls of quaters and let's start beating some ass.
While ur having a no confidence vote ...how about throwing the union leadership in there too, so someone stands up for the P.O.'S!!!! Where do i sign up???
I'm sure McCarthy would take more manpower if he could get it. Ultimately the manpower issue falls on Rahm. Although McCarthy does have to take the blame for the failure on Compstat.
TIME TO GET THE CITIZENS OF CHICAGO TO SUPPORT THE POLICE OFFICER!!!!!!!crime is rising,and no one is safe!public relations campaign fop!
Huge stretch....
It really is sad that it took such a violent weekend including one of our own getting shot to have all the shit talking haters say the wish they had sos, tru and msf back. You are all the same Clowns that were applauding this idiod McDrunktank for dumping us
Besides the most important fact, that the extreme manpower shortage places us at risk along with the public, and now today we have another police officer shot and in critical condition. GOD BLESS YOU OFFICER! But has the city ever considered that a shortage of manpower power may cause police officers to use deadly force more often? Back up is far away, coppers working 99, and busy nights causing the few cars that are working to be down on jobs. This could force coppers to use force that they normally may not have had to use if this department was adequately staffed. We all know the city doesn't care about us getting hurt, but we know they care about paying out $$$$ through law suits. Just a thought.
Until the public gets fed up with these liars at City Hall nothing will be done. The only thing the Racoon is concerned about now is getting his multi-million dollar deal for the Speed Cameras through the council so he can start fucking us with tickets. How many kids have been injured or killed since the Racoon took office? None? This scam cries out for media attention. Problem is the media is scared to death of this midget bastard. Time for this asshole to be more scared of US!!!
It's amazing to me that the city isn't putting a minimum of 200 cops through the academy a year. Hell, just this year alone 500 are retiring and there may be 50 cops in the academy. The public should be outraged.
Bring J Fed back! This is getting ludicrous.
Don't tell me!
Tell George Armstrong McCuster !
Tell James "Rahm" Jones before he passes out the rest of the Cool Aid!
Die now; pay later?
The Racoon got to the FOP leadership real fast. Hence the SILENCE. We can only guess what they were offered or threatened with. They appear to be useless as of now.
Won't happen Shields has been bought and paid for.
Our FOP President says we are short on TV but then nothing. If he knows we are so fucking short why isn't he jumping up and down screaming. Is he in 9.5's pocket. What are we paying dues for to the FOP if this is what is done. NOTHING. Maybe the first vote of no confidence should be for Mike Shields and the FOP. They are supposed to be our voice but all you hear are the crickets chirping. As long as we allow this to happen, not a fucking thing will change. Not the FOP, the city or the citizens give a fuck about us being targeted and short beyond dangerous limits. Maybe it is time to start a campaign to decertify the FOP and vote in a union that will fight for us. Shields has clearly shown he doesn't have a hair on his balls to fight for us. He is by far the worst FOP president I have ever seen.
Not when they endorsed Madigan. Shows that they are playing the game of the democratic machine, also known as the communist party of chicago.
Disgusting.
Where are the mayor AND all the alderman?
Hunkered down in the downtown Fortress of Bullshit I guess planing their next corporate fund raiser for their campaigns. A fine example of community leadership don't you think?
You know what I think.
I think we can safely say that after decades of chasing the people doing the shootings we are treating the symptom and not the addressing the root cause of this cities problems.
I think one of those root causes being drug turf. The so-called war on drugs is a failure.
We keep doing the same thing over and over and expect different results and that's the first sign of insanity. More gun regulation for example. We've been there done that and it doesn't work and the mayor wants to create yet another distraction from the core issue.
It's time we find a way to legalize the drugs and take away the very source that is financing and motivating these people to do what they are doing. It's the money stupid!
Legalize the drugs and tax them to create tax revenue and use that revenue to fund the much needed cops on the beat, social programs, education, gang alternative programs and more.
This has to be a billion dollar tax free business in Chicago and here we have a solution to the cities budget problems staring ALL these political asshats in the face and the silence is deafening.
No... instead they raise the law abiding Joe's state income tax so who's getting punished?
They raise fines and fees and license fees and grant the illegal drug trade impunity -- HANDS OFF THAT MONEY!
Why do you think that is? Where is some of that money being spent?
Hoo-ray it's Job security and overtime for the lawyers, judges and the legal system. The private run prisons when you bust 1,800 gang members.
Turn 'em back on the street as soon as you can. It enhances your paycheck if you're in that profession. Woo-hoo! Supply and demand is up more Overtime!
Think of it as a legalized money laundering scam for the clouted law firms and prosecutors. Follow the money.
We waste time and risk CPD officers lives and the people busted are right back on the streets going through a revolving door of justice because we have no money to pay to keep the thugs incarcerated.
Meanwhile, the illicit drug money flows indirectly to pay the trial lawyers, the related legal apparatus.
Another root cause of this problem is the city council that is speechless, that's tells the people that it is suppose to be serving to sit down and shut-up that we know what's good for you and we don't want to hear what you have to say.
Has anyone seen their elected officials? Anyone?
This is a time to get back to basics. This CITY in which we live, work and play has been dominated by gangbangers that are getting away with stuff because they know they can due to all these NEW policies that just ties the hands of the police. As of this writing there was a protest by OCCUPY CHICAGO of get this...Police Brutality!!! Maybe ten years ago!!!! Lay hands on someone now and you are condemned by everyone including the very department you work for. You can have all the meetings in the world but very little will change because of the manpower shortage in the department. OLD MEN AND OLD WOMEN are working the street. Just look at the age of the officer that was just shot. 47 years old!!! Chasing a 20 year old!!!We have an AGING POLICE FORCE. Sure the officer was in good shape and a damn good officer at that but age does make a difference. That is why the Armed Forces want YOUNG men and women, so at least a lot more energy can be brought to the table. Meanwhile the cameras are supposed to be putting an end to all this?! Utter nonsense. Putting cops into zones and arresting everyone for one bag of weed supposed to help??!! PROPER PARENTING IS THE PROBLEM AND GENERATIONS OF THIS HAS CAUSED THE PROBLEM. It will take decades to straighten out the mess. Have all the meetings you want but unless more police are put on the street soon, and that means new police....I'm afraid nothing will help.
And maybe the fop leadership!!!
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Oh lookie! It's a St. Patrick Day video of Wrigleyville
Have the organizers of the South Side Irish parade filed suit to get their money back yet? I would.
Where are these Wrigleville peoples parade permit? Why are the sidewalks allowed to be blocked? Why are people drinking openly in the streets? Why are people walking in the streets? Why is CPD providing free traffic control for all these people violating these city ordinance? Why..why..why?
We're looking at YOU Rahm.
Mayor Rahm we call bullshit on your "law is the law and we must respect the law" commentary.
I'll tell you what.
We had better start enforcing the laws equally among ALL social economic classes of this city and of this nation or we are going to have chaos. When the people lose faith that the laws only work for some they will turn to vigilantism IMO. Not a threat just an observation that's all.
You can mobilize the cities resources calling out thousands of officers in a show of force for a political protest with ZERO violence and the same cannot be said for this little get together here that ended with blood in the streets.
Whats the over under for attendance? Ill say less than 300.
They'll never admit theyre shortcomings. Its in their best interest to blame us and attempt to explain away the manpower shortage as so much noise...
How come no flash msg on:
Officer Hit?
Union meeting?
Not as important as monster trucks?
or FOP Hockey Team event?
And . . . Does Shields not even show up at hospital? Camden comments
WTF
Another scene from Wrigleyville on St Pat's Day that you won't see in corporate owned Chicago main stream media.
(video) Big Trouble in Little Wrigleyville
As the City of Chicago Department of Smoke and Mirrors touts the great success of the South Side Irish parade returning to a family values... with no public drunkenness tolerated what-so-ever...
just don't look over here at Wrigleyville..no-no-no-no look back over there at the SSI Parade. It's all good! There's nothing to see here.
No security required for Wrigleyville I guess.
The SSI organizers should get their money back for all the loopholes the mayor put them through.
Something needs to start the ball rolling
They're Showcasing the City for you mayor....and what can we learn from this?
That as long as you are spending money to enrich businesses of the clouted class, Chicago city ordinances dpn't apply to you right?
(video) -- Drunk People - St Patties Day 2012 Chicago, IL - North Clark Street
It's bad alright and getting worse by the minute. We are alone in this crime fighting business. Sad but true. The more we believe that we can do this, well keep the hope because we can't win the politics and the politicians hates us. Our ranking people are not looking out for our interest and the morale is hurting like never before.
In a desperate and futile attempt to discredit and silence 81st Pct. "CONstat" whistleblower Adrian SCHOOLCRAFT, listen to this 4 minute audio exchange between Brooklyn North (patrol) Chief Michael MARINO and his "son", Adrian. MARINO led the home invasion (landlord provided keys to Adrian's apt.) accompanied by other NYPD including an Emergency Service Unit (ESU) armed with heavy weapons.
In NYPD lingo, a "bus" is an ambulance and an "EDP" is an "Emotionally Disturbed Person".
The "bus" then transported a cuffed Schoolcraft to the PSYCH ward at Jamaica Hospital where he was held against his will for SIX (6) DAYS.
I submit that if there is an "EDP" in this audio, it certainly is not Officer Schoolcraft.
To listen, CLICK on ADRIAN'S ABDUCTION
During the home invasion, Marino, et al. discovered that Schoolcraft was wearing a wire. Little did they know that he had a "backup" recorder concealed nearby which captured this whole outrage.
Number please??
Try to get the number of sworn police officers actually working on the Chicago Police Department.
Not the, "We got 13,000 Chicago Cops working on it.", statement of McWhat-his-name.
But, the actual number that someone could swear to on a stack of bibles that on this date (maybe a month or two ago), we as citizens of Chicago had employed as sworn Chicago Police Officers of all ranks.
Depending on how you define that number and what system you use to get it will vary.
For example: according to a source, on 1 January 2012 there were 12,277 people contributing to our pension fund. That seems impossible, unless that number includes civilian employees or "ghost payrollers".
The only way to do this is if for FOP and or someone from outside the Department would do a top to bottom MANPOWER AUDIT.
And you know Rahm will fight to keep that from the public.
MOTION: That the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge Number 7, Representing the Officers of the Chicago Police Department undertake and publish a COMPLETE MANPOWER AUDIT OF THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT AND HAVE THAT AUDIT COMPLETED IN 30 Days.
Do I hear a second?
Stay Safe, Doing more with less does NOT work when it comes to peoples lives.
Fop useless. Worst I've seen in 20 years.
gerry this isnt working maybe when we get those 1800 cameras crime will go down. geez if someone speed in chicago god help us but shooting people well we dont need more cop!!!
first higher more cops,bring back units,bring area's back with more detectives. where is the money from g-8 gate?
gerry maybe if we had a unit that you can deploy to high crime area's and crime scene..just a thought...
Who is the new commander and Lt of Public Transportation?
It is too late. But at least I voted for Paschke!!
I'm very surprised our little leprechan of a mayor hasn't admonished the supt on his drunken behavior. He certainly likes the suds. Maybe he might have to go through the random blow. Then again, probably not.
We need a MASS HIRING, but that will never happen
i agree a beat car is important but one beat car to a beat isnt gonna do anything..you need at least 6 to a high crime beat for starter..
Its all on the Mayor. The Supt. can't do ANYTHING without the Mayors blessing. We could have Dirty Harry as Supt and nothing would change! When CPD can become a seperate entity from the fifth floor then things will change. In Chicago the Supt is only there to leave, as to make the public perceive "things will change" when need be.
how do you go after gangbangers if your a beat car answering domestic all day...rahm you not the police just a pussy suburbanite with a silver spoonspoon in your mouth.
Let's march in May right before NATO. The eyes will be on Chicago already. Let the world see that the police have a voice nd we are not happy!
rahm your not the police and your obviously taking revenge on the police dept because of the olympic and when the fop didnt endorse u for your campaign but in the long run you hurting the citizen and yourself.
"the entertainment continues... the new Capt. & new Lt. of public transportation engaged in a verbal altercation over a parking space."
LT Dean Stone is in Public Transportation?
i have been telling my neighbors to write and call their alderman to bring back police in their neighborhood or we vote them out...
Indict some aldermans, reverands and youll see how many communities are affected by this. I'm sure many will start to sing out loud in there communites to much money will be lost in this areas..
I call bullshit on the sup's "new strategy". We already know the gangs' territorial boundaries. Does the gang map application ring a bell? N we are pretty aware of the current gang conflicts,after all, every district has them. And did he forget about CabOodle already? The fact remains if someone wants to shoot someone else, there's not much we can do about it. More personnel would help but even that is not the total answer. People have to start taking responsibillity for their own actions n children. And if we can't slow down shootings in march, what's going to happen come May? And I predict the hottest May onrecord and the Bulls are going to make the playoffs. I figure if May is going to be shit, might as well go for broke.
3/20/2012 08:24:00 AM
3/20/2012 01:03:00 PM
3/20/2012 01:21:00 PM
It's getting to the point that half the stuff on here is produced by Occupy.
What, you on meth or something?
Yabble, yabble, yabble.
"If you start grabbing people and it's videotaped be prepared to be made an example of."
Yeah, we know. "The whole world is watching."
Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.
Fuck off, huh?
I completely understand the position the FOP is taking with regards to not wanting to negotiate our contract in the media.But it's time to take off the gloves, we have an obligation to let the public know what is going on in the streets. Crime is absolutly out of control. The FOP should hold a news conference every Monday morning and go over the tallys for the past week. It's time to get nasty and all we have to do is present the facts, that will be nasty enough. Like my pop's always said, "if you find yourself involved in a fair fight, your doing something wrong". Tape up the rolls of quaters and let's start beating some ass.
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Awesome idea!! Shields and his idiot brother are too busy running their private investigation company, called Jetty. The rest of the union are clowns.
What a sad, sad PD. More police fired than hired, we are told what corners(violent zone) to babysit, stations being closed, no training, bosses running around like chickens without heads, aside from the bangers... old ppl, woman, and children being shot and killed, and now P.O 's being shot in the midst of it all. All we can do is sit here and watch, while our boss says everything is great?? Wow... Nato in May, Taste in June, possibly Bulls in July??? We are soooooo fucked!! Stay tuned Chicago, same Bat time, same Bat channel
I hope someone discussed why I'm still not on SWAT after I passed everything!! This is bullshit!! I'm ready to get IT on already, fuck these violent zones
Shields if you can't lead then give up the office and move out the way. You had a big mouth when you were at the pension board. What happened? You sold us out for what?? You didn't even go to the hospital for the injured officer. You really are over your head.
No confidence vote for FOP!!
mike is to busy enjoying his fop car and downtown lunches to be bothered..
well if you committ a agg bat with a handgun it should be life imprison..you try taking a life you loose yours.. but cook county courts has higher a bunch of employee that are gangbanger or related to them.
Please Mikey mouse's sister worked for mayor short shanks. they all are looking for that step up for future spots. FOP NO BALLS LIKE LITTLE Mikey the 2 yr wonder wow were fucked.
Who is the President? Mike Shields or Dan Shields?
The city is being over run by Thugs, Gangsters, Dope Dealers, and Perverts. It may be too late to roll this crime wave back. Detroit went the same way. We look to be next. Should never have happened.
Went to the meeting. Lots of fireworks. This previous comment sums it up......
I'd like a specific answer as to why the FOP did not endorse one of our own. Shields personally disrespected PO Stoppa and endorsed her opponent who is a Joe Berrios lacky. Shields just sold out one of his own members for the Machine. What a disgrace this assclown is!
1/12/2012 12:42:00 AM"
How is this for specifics. . .
Joe Lyons, the current 19th District State Representative is trying to give his seat to Robert Martwick, a life long machine hack tax attorney from Norridge, IL who is part of the Madigan/Berrios machine. Joe Lyons is personal friends with Mark Donahue. Mark Donahue, our ex-FOP president, sits on the FOP PAC along with Mike Shields, the current FOP President.
Now, little Mikey Shields knows that his days are numbered as president, so he needs to start making plans. He don't want to go back to working as a P.O. and take a 50% pay cut. So, he needs to start making political friends who can take care of him when his day comes. At the endorsement interview, Mike Shields torpedoed P.O. Sandra Stoppa. According to her, it was clear from when she walked in that she wasn't going to get the endorsement. Mike Shields then unloaded on her with ridiculous questions that were totally irrelevant to her running for office in an effort to protect our pensions. He then proceeded get the board to vote unanimously against her in favor of Martwick.
According to Mike Shields, Robert Martwick, a career machine hack from Norridge, would have our backs in Springfield better than one of our own.
So, to sum it all up, Mike Shields is a political sell-out trying to line himself up for a nice cushy job after his time at FOP comes to an end.
America.
I said we should stage a march on city hall or the newly named City of Chicago Public Safety Building(what a fucking joke)several months ago!
Totally Fucking Useless........
First of all, get rid of the FOP and hire a PRO-POLICE LAW FIRM FROM OUT OF STATE to do our collective bargaining. Thats all FOP attempts to do anyway and gets slapped silly by the city every six years, two years late, and then gets hosed by daley's house boy, arbitrator Binn.
Second of all, sell the fucking party hall. What the hell do we need to be paying property taxes on that place for, just to run benefits?!?!?!. It's allegedly paid for so, get the F out of here, sell that dump and give us our money back.
Third, fire the do nothing BIG MOUTH female family staff that they have working there that does nothing but pull a check off of our dinner tables. Bunch of no it alls, you know who I'm talking about.
Fourth we use a closed password protected Blog to communicate our intentions and strategies, both with ourselves and the Law Firm.
That property is worth at least four Mill, put the new Law Firm on retainer for two Mill and split the remaining monies between the paying members.
DO IT NOW!!! Totally Fucking Useless.
"Off Topic but very disturbing. State Controlled Media? Presidents daughter vacations in Mexico with 12 friends and 25 Secret Service Agents. Story now disappearing from the web. Is this the U.S or Iran?? Update: White house admitts they ordered media to pull story!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/white-house-admits-to-asking-news-agencies-to-pull-malia-obama-vacation-story/
--3/20/2012 10:53:00 AM
It just slipped out again -- Channel 7 news ran a story on an earthquake down in Mexico, and had to reassure us all that Malia and friends were OK.
Right before that, their election coverage reported that the Democratic turnout was very low this time -- it was Republicans who were coming out to vote.
One woman said "I hope I've done everything I can to prevent Obama from being re-elected."
WOW.
In CHICAGO!
any bets on whether this is a result of the mental healthcare clinics being shut down by the almighty chosen ones?
Cop, paramedic among 3 injured in West Side scuffle
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-3-injured-including-cop-paramedic-in-west-side-scuffle-20120320,0,5088791.story
"Where are these Wrigleville peoples parade permit? Why are the sidewalks allowed to be blocked? Why are people drinking openly in the streets? Why are people walking in the streets? Why is CPD providing free traffic control for all these people violating these city ordinance? Why..why..why?...
"We had better start enforcing the laws equally among ALL social economic classes of this city and of this nation or we are going to have chaos. When the people lose faith that the laws only work for some they will turn to vigilantism IMO. Not a threat just an observation that's all."
--3/20/2012 01:26:00 PM
No, it's a threat. "Use any tactic," remember?
Hello, Andy Thayer.
Oh, isn't he upset that he didn't get HIS permit!
"You can mobilize the cities resources calling out thousands of officers in a show of force for a political protest with ZERO violence..."
Yeah -- like in Oakland.
"Occupy" seems to be producing half of what I read here.
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A warm, snowless winter means a nine million dollar budget surplus in regard to snow removal. Is the FOP going to cite this savings in demanding Rahm hire more people, or will they demand that it be made available for salary increases in the next contract negotiation?
Mc Dufus says We gotta connect the dots to find out why crime is happening? Ask chalkie!
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Goofy McNutty was on Roe Conn show today and he said he really doesn't believe the department is undermanned.
He said we just have to work smarter and harder?
Really?
Of course even if he said we desperately need manpower Rahm would just bitch slap him and tell him to shut up.
Rahm absolutely refuses to consider bringing this department up to anything near full strength.
Wouldn't it be great if we could recall Rahm like Wis. is doing to their union busting governor?
Regarding the federal money we got for the summits, if the Reader is to be believed, the city is receiving zero additional $'s. The $55 million da mayor keeps touting is an annual federal grant that the City has already spent on keeping OEMC running. That means all money spent on this will be out of a budget that is already millions short. I believe the article can still be found online at the Readers website from around Feb 22
Anonymous said...
How about a no confidence vote for FOP? Not one word from FOP on the retirements or manpower shortages. Mousey Mike and the useless board are all quiet. Just a sick reminder how corrupt this city is. Mikey you and that useless Board, need to resign.
3/20/2012 08:43:00 AM
Did you go to the FOP General Meeting today at 1200 hours? If you went you could have asked these things yourself, in person, face to face and gotten answers. But then you would have to give your name and star number.
E.H. Nightengale said...
Off Topic-
Can all of you nimrods please quit wishing SCC well on the recent "retirement"....
Good God, are there that many soft people out there.
If you don't get it - you'll never get it.
3/20/2012 09:13:00 AM
SCC mentioned it first.
Please stop with the "No Confidence Vote". I'm sure the Supe and Mayor would vote the same way regarding us.
Anonymous said...
Lets not forget. Back in 2010 when 44 people were shot in the city and 7 killed in one weekend it was "dugans fault" and he was demoted. So if dugan was the fall guy for the 44 shot who will be the fall guy for the 49 shot? I mean whats fair is fair right? And how about scc another no confidence vote, for mike shields. Hes not much better. Once again the 12 year old was on the news last night after the supt gave a press conference and he was whining once again. Why in gods name did I vote for him??!! Yes, I blame myself, but I know that come next vote I will not be voting for him once again... Shields, you and McCarthy are the biggest joke in this department.
3/20/2012 10:42:00 AM
The thing is, ALL the Exempts get paid some really big money to work together tocome up with solutions to stop these Slaughters, which they have failed at. One is as Guilty as the next. Time to demote them, cut their pay, or bring in people who can and WILL get the job done better than this bunch, who have had their chance TOO, and Failed.
Can we march again? Please! Pretty please!
One more march will make it all better.
"hey hey ho ho Garry Mac has got to go. Hey hey ho ho Garry Mac has got to go!"
I just love to march so much. I love it. That's really why I became a policeman, so I could march and chant.
If I've learned anything on this job, it's that the only way to get things done is to march march march. It's worked so well for the people I police.
3/20/2012 10:18:00 AM
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Messing with the money is the only thing that these people really understand.
There will be calls for general strikes soon I'll bet. If and when the tax revenue stops coming in eh-heh..oh boy.
SCC mentioned it first.
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Actually, we didn't:
To wit: One of our members recently retired from the Department. You may or may not have read their name in the FOP newsletter depending on how far behind they are. For all Department-related postings that involve photos, logos, audio/video files, and text documents, along with pointed commentary on the stupidity of policies, procedures and individual bosses who are public figures by virtue of being named Command Staff, they will post it on behalf of the readership.
"First they IGNORE you. Then they RIDICULE you. Then they FIGHT you. Then YOU WIN!" - M.K. Gandhi
The city is being over run by Thugs, Gangsters, Dope Dealers, and Perverts. It may be too late to roll this crime wave back. Detroit went the same way. We look to be next. Should never have happened.
3/20/2012 04:07:00 PM
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The corrupt political apparatus created it, nurtured it, encouraged it to be used as tools for their own personal gains.
just got last flash msg from FOP
chaplin (with little or no hair anyway) is shaving it for St. Baldrick's -- WTF over
suspect in custody on copper shooting?
we are so screwed!
What would it take to get out of the FOP and have another union represent us? I'm tired of the FOP. We should look into starting up something with NAPO, IUPA, or even the Teamsters. It's obvious shields knows his days are numbered. Why the hell would we endorse Mike Madigan? He is public enemy number 1.
NorthSide said...
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3/20/2012 04:58:00 PM
So what gives?
Is Northside now a New Yawker chasing perps and skels in the Big Apple?
E.H. Nightengale said...
Off Topic-
Can all of you nimrods please quit wishing SCC well on the recent "retirement"....
Good God, are there that many soft people out there.
If you don't get it - you'll never get it.
3/20/2012 09:13:00 AM
STFU you idiot. YOU are the one who doesn't get it. SCC is retired, get it? If you are retired, you can post anything you want. I personally know SCC, and trust me, the papers went in and the retirement star is all he carries now.
Idiot.
>>> One woman said "I hope I've done everything I can to prevent Obama from being re-elected."
Oh, I'm sure more than one woman said that!
Bring J Fed back! This is getting ludicrous.
3/20/2012 12:24:00 PM
Now, Jody, this is unacceptable behavior.
Go to your room and sit quietly for awhile so the grownups can talk.
How about they hire someone from WITHIN the department to be supt!
there is no HOPE
For example: according to a source, on 1 January 2012 there were 12,277 people contributing to our pension fund. That seems impossible, unless that number includes civilian employees or "ghost payrollers".
The only way to do this is if for FOP and or someone from outside the Department would do a top to bottom MANPOWER AUDIT.
And you know Rahm will fight to keep that from the public.
MOTION: That the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge Number 7, Representing the Officers of the Chicago Police Department undertake and publish a COMPLETE MANPOWER AUDIT OF THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT AND HAVE THAT AUDIT COMPLETED IN 30 Days.
Do I hear a second?
Stay Safe, Doing more with less does NOT work when it comes to peoples lives.
3/20/2012 02:25:00 PM
That 12,277 includes people who are 'on leave' from CPD who claim their current employment is law-enforcement related, so they get to contribute to our pension while they work somewhere else.
Kind of like what Ron Huberman tried to get away with until Shields torpedoed it.
Those people pay a small amount into the fund each month and pad their CPD "total years of employment", so they can collect huge pensions from our fund.
Right before that, their election coverage reported that the Democratic turnout was very low this time -- it was Republicans who were coming out to vote.
One woman said "I hope I've done everything I can to prevent Obama from being re-elected."
WOW.
In CHICAGO!
3/20/2012 04:41:00 PM
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The truth is, when the Democratic candidate in the presidential primary is unopposed, (Dem.)people see little reason to vote in the primary. There's your low turnout.
You'll also find a bunch of dems pulled a Republican ballot to vote for Santorum. The theory is, if Santorum wins the primary and becomes the Republican candidate for President, he's going to be trounced by Obama.
In other words, a certain number of Obama supporters have pulled a republican ballot to help Obama.
Actually, we didn't:
To wit: One of our members recently retired from the Department. You may or may not have read their name in the FOP newsletter depending on how far behind they are. For all Department-related postings that involve photos, logos, audio/video files, and text documents, along with pointed commentary on the stupidity of policies, procedures and individual bosses who are public figures by virtue of being named Command Staff, they will post it on behalf of the readership.
3/20/2012 07:00:00 PM
Thank you SCC, for the morons who didn't get it, don't get it, and will never get it. But at least you tried. You have the patience of a saint!
I hope someone discussed why I'm still not on SWAT after I passed everything!! This is bullshit!! I'm ready to get IT on already, fuck these violent zones
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Dude shut the fuck up. Two words, Quiet Professional. I hate to tell you this but Patrol Officers see more action then you will. The only action you will see is the alley and bringing equipment to the other operators. We already have enough wannabes on this team, if that is your attitude find some where else to go.
Moses and McGruff (take a bite out of crime) said that 100 new recruits will be in the academy this June. Funny thing, 75 applicants will take a power test on April 2nd.
What the hell do I know...
Wake up. The Fop cannot make the city hire more people. What do you think whining and crying about it will do? Until the masses get fed up nothing will be done. The main job of the Fop is to negotiate our contract, file greivances when our contract is violated, provide legal counsel when we need it, and attempt to push our agenda with politicians. Instead of bitching on this blog come to a meeting and demand changes. Turnout is horrible. Get involved or shut up.
FOP no confidence
We need a Tim Fallion now more than ever
fop a disgrace to the working copper sat something! wtf
my dues get me a bullshit fisjing derby
I could save the dues each month why bother you do nothing for me
Anonymous said:
Lets not forget. Back in 2010 when 44 people were shot in the city and 7 killed in one weekend it was "dugans fault" and he was demoted. So if dugan was the fall guy for the 44 shot who will be the fall guy for the 49 shot?...
Well I will tell you who's not at fault that bald headed french pastry chef looking policeman who appeared on the news and is taking some action using technology and implementing intelligence led policing, he's awesome he said that when they hear of a shooting that the computer geeks will notify the beat cops of possible retaliation shootings. Now thats leadership.
you will soon need your FLOP dues money just to fill your gas tank to go to work
Please stop with the "No Confidence Vote". I'm sure the Supe and Mayor would vote the same way regarding us.
3/20/2012 06:18:00 PM
I know that a PO would never say that. So troll leave the sight and go to your liberal media. Unless this is Mousey Mike and Daffy Dan. The idiot brothers reunite to sell us out.
What a joke of an FOP meeting!! I am just disgusted.
"Hoo-ray it's Job security"
Do you really think we don't have job security?
Get serious.
Wake up. The Fop cannot make the city hire more people. What do you think whining and crying about it will do? Until the masses get fed up nothing will be done. The main job of the Fop is to negotiate our contract, file greivances when our contract is violated, provide legal counsel when we need it, and attempt to push our agenda with politicians. Instead of bitching on this blog come to a meeting and demand changes. Turnout is horrible. Get involved or shut up.
I was going to show up since it was my day off but I had to work a side gig since my wife got laid off and there is no overtime. On top of it I have to send my two children to private schools since the public schools suck. How about you fill me in on the strategy of the FOP to voice our concerns in regards to the manpower shortages? Any press conferences planned? How about how this weekends violence and the shooting of one of our own? What did Mikey boy have to say? Save your BS and get a clue. Sick of losers like you backing the sellouts. Mike Shields and company equal SELLOUTS!!!
"We need a MASS HIRING"
Even that idiot Daley promised and hired 600 police officers.
"The city is being over run by Thugs, Gangsters, Dope Dealers, and Perverts."
Yeah, we really need to stop electing them!
Well, sooner or later and slowly the violence in the city would continue to rise. We, the patrol officers don't have the support to do our job like we did in the past. We can't risk it all and then be crucified for it. The no support now shows, we won't risk it all anymore, we won't be turned over to IAD like flies and we won't sit for BS civil right lawsuits for the city to settle every single case. The gang members laugh about how we have no support from anyone and right now being a criminal does pay for them. From the FOP being weak, to our leadership suppresing us and our Mayor wanting for us to get nothing for benefits, now it all shows. We will do the necessary, but no more hero stuff. We won't risk it all and if we do, with all the shootings, it is all going up for grabs...we do not have enough officers. The beat goes down, the rapid then goes down and that's it...we don't have the extra officers to look after those beats when arrests are made. We just don't have it.
Guys you're doing it wrong.
It's not "...your constitutional first amendment rights can be terminated..." as in the now famous CPD quote and video circling the interwebs and going viral.
The officer obvious misread the CPD G.O.
No it's "YOU.. YOU can be terminated as a CPD officer for trying to exercise your first amendment rights"
got it?
Geeze... but then again that is a pretty smart way to post things that makes the department look bad without being the one personally doing the posting. This way you can play the victim.
Stay profession please.
retired mcnulty isnt working how bout we kick the idea around for him to head the fop.
3/20/2012 02:25:00 PM
Don't forget, all the non-sworn positions that are paid from the Police Department payroll.
There are 13854 names listed on this website under the Police Department heading.
Only 9438 are titled as PO's.
There are Cadets and Admin assistants and Crossing Guards and Property Custodian and Clinical Therapists and Detention Aides and other crap positions like that in the department that the city is pointing to in order to say they have almost 14k employees.
https://data.cityofchicago.org/Administration-Finance/Current-Employee-Names-Salaries-and-Position-Title/xzkq-xp2w
All non-Sworn jobs that are civilian staffed should be re-titled by Personnel under the heading as City Support Staff and the FOP should demand it. Not cost people their jobs (if they actually do them well.) but insist that the only people that get to be counted as "the Police" are people that went through the CPD academy and can carry a weapon.
"How about they hire someone from WITHIN the department to be supt!"
Considering the current crop of exempts, it would be a disaster.
None of the decent lieutenants would want to take over this mess.
Most of the real talent retired under J-Fed, the rest when Emanuel took over.
"Moses and McGruff (take a bite out of crime) said that 100 new recruits will be in the academy this June. Funny thing, 75 applicants will take a power test on April 2nd.
What the hell do I know..."
25 are political appointees that are exempt from any testing.
They'll all be bosses soon!
Why even go? They don't want to really deal with issues. Give our names and stars yeah so they can make sure we get into trouble, yeah no thank you. If the FOP fails to recognize what's needed then that's their issue. Obviously the FOP screens this blog, so it's not like they don't know. So really, who is really slacking. Most of us we don't have a desk jobs, or a better work schedule to be leaving our families during the day. Shields with your team, read the blog and figure it out. Conduct surveys, visit districts...don't make us come to you, come to us. Some of us just don't have the available time to get to those meetings. We got families that need us in our free time.
Did you go to the FOP General Meeting today at 1200 hours? If you went you could have asked these things yourself, in person, face to face and gotten answers. But then you would have to give your name and star number.
3/20/2012 06:13:00 PM
....W.V.O.N. said...
Moses and McGruff (take a bite out of crime) said that 100 new recruits will be in the academy this June. Funny thing, 75 applicants will take a power test on April 2nd.
What the hell do I know...
3/20/2012 08:36:00 PM.....
You Fool, The other 25 have already passed the Revrend Test and are IN!
Anonymous said...
I agree that manpower is low and the department morale is at an all time low. However, police have been shot in previous years when manpower was higher. People will always shoot. No police want to put our hands on people these days and this has to do with all the cameras out there. Bosses say go out there and clear the corners and put your hands on people. No one I know is risking their job/future/pension over nonsense on a corner. If you start grabbing people and it's videotaped be prepared to be made an example of.
3/20/2012 08:24:00 AM
How about if you put your hands on somebody, do the right thing and document it yourself. If you are heavy handed, then do that shit somewhere there are no cameras.
I hope someone discussed why I'm still not on SWAT after I passed everything!! This is bullshit!! I'm ready to get IT on already, fuck these violent zones
3/20/2012 03:54:00 PM
Stroke! They already knew what their status was by at least 1200 hrs today so quit hating. My guess is it's one of my stroke coworkers who was unaware of them being reassigned and are stirring the pot. Grow up tool!
Totally off top[c. I was watching a taped program and it ended and brought me into the middle of a news program. And there was Jesse Jackson Jr. spewing his bullshit after apparently winning the primary today. I am not a fan of Halverson, but.... G_d almighty [ in deference to our Jewish Rabbi], I had to leave the Vast TV Wasteland and come in here to the vast waste cyber land and vent. G_d help us all that that mutt is still in the race [really, really, no pun intended] for Congressman. We are doomed. They walk among us!!! We are truly doomed!
The words of the Illinois politicians do not match the CPD actions.
example.
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Asked if there’s a risk of the demonstrations tarnishing the city’s image, Quinn said, “I think we can handle anything. We believe in the First Amendment; the right to assemble, and to speak in a proper way, an orderly way, so no one else’s rights are impeded. And I think we can show the world that democracy is alive and well in Illinois.”
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/03/20/emanuels-wife-leads-delegation-to-brussels-for-nato-summit-kickoff/
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When a reporter asked the officer to call News Affairs, the officer said, "I don't care about News Affairs. Fuck News Affairs!"
"Your First Amendment right can be terminated if you're creating a scene or whatever", added the cop.
http://www.chicagonewsreport.com/2012/03/video-chicago-police-officer-says-your.html
"Your first amendment rights can be terminated" Chicago. now has 600,000 plus pages on a Google search.
What do you think we are showing the world again?
Fifteen percent of the CPD make 85 percent of the Part I felony arrests. They've been ridden hard and put away wet. Yet McPuppet insists we have adequate manpower.
Is he delusional or just a liar and a hypocrite?
You guys are ridicoulous!!!
I just finished my SWAT training and I wanna get me some!!! Urghaaaa!!! Stop your fussing and start working this site brings me down! I am ready to dance dance dance!...
I got my gear and look like Rambo on steroids, leather, metal hooks, a shiny asp, and cool oakleys....
look out crime.....momma's coming home!!
Kisses!
Prince Valium
Can I get a violent zone releif before I do pee pee in my pants please?? I feel like I'm in 1st grade
What would it take to get out of the FOP and have another union represent us? I'm tired of the FOP. We should look into starting up something with NAPO, IUPA, or even the Teamsters. It's obvious shields knows his days are numbered. Why the hell would we endorse Mike Madigan? He is public enemy number 1.
Duh! Because he got 76% of the vote and the FOP knew that he was going to win. Also every other union in the city endorsed him. Just crawl back into your mommy's basement and do what she tells you to. Where's your shine box?
Put residency on the table. Jump off the Titanic before... the iceberg.
I hope someone discussed why I'm still not on SWAT after I passed everything!! This is bullshit!! I'm ready to get IT on already, fuck these violent zones
3/20/2012 03:54:00 PM
i discussed this with my crew and the consensus was: no soup for you.
Chalkie
2:24pm
That NYPD tape is chilling. I read that Schoolcraft is suing NYC for $50 million dollars. Wait for a jury to hear that tape. It could bankrupt NYC.
That dumbf--k chief sounds like great CPD exempt material
Anonymous said...
you will soon need your FLOP dues money just to fill your gas tank to go to work
3/20/2012 09:13:00 PM
You have a lifetime bus pass in your pocket. Use it. Lots of old timers took a bus to work to save money. They didn't drive Lexus or new SUV's.
The police should march just before NATO. The whole world will be watching...
Yeah Mike can demand more officers on the street and watch the mayor just move people around claiming he's put a another thousand on the street just like last time.
Squadrol Demolished at 8100 S. Halsted, 2 officer to Stroeger in serious to critical condition, per Breaking News.
Dan started Jetty before mike was even on pension board. He doesn't do city or state contracts so everyone settle down.
Jetty is not an authorized vendor with the city of Chicago or State of Illinois. Check for yourself online.
Go to websites and check list of approved vendor lists.
http://webapps.cityofchicago.org/VCSearchWeb/org/cityofchicago/vcsearch/controller/agencySelection/begin.do
https://www2.illinois.gov/cms/business/sell2/Pages/VendorSearch.aspx
If Dan was making so much money on Jetty and all these government contracts(that he doesn't have) why is he still living on south side in Hegewisch driving a Toyoto corolla?
With all the politicians that Mike has angered in the past, Do you really think mayor would reward his brother with city contracts?
If Mikey sells us out in order to move on into politics, do you think he can pull off the ventriloquist act? Geiger is master puppeteer, as we all know.
I was going to show up since it was my day off but I had to work a side gig since my wife got laid off and there is no overtime. On top of it I have to send my two children to private schools since the public schools suck. How about you fill me in on the strategy of the FOP to voice our concerns in regards to the manpower shortages? Any press conferences planned? How about how this weekends violence and the shooting of one of our own? What did Mikey boy have to say? Save your BS and get a clue. Sick of losers like you backing the sellouts. Mike Shields and company equal SELLOUTS!!!
Typical of the excuses. Youd rather bitch on here than get involved. PS I voted for Bella dummy.
You hair jell guys bought into Shields B.S.
Now he is there and you wished you voied for Bella.
FOP is now a big Zero.
North Side, do you think we really care about Schoolcraft in the NYPD.
We got enough problems here. Start on Gerry for a start. You got to see him in the Rush street area eanked.
E.H. Nightengale said...
Off Topic-
Can all of you nimrods please quit wishing SCC well on the recent "retirement"....
Good God, are there that many soft people out there.
If you don't get it - you'll never get it.
3/20/2012 09:13:00 AM
STFU you idiot. YOU are the one who doesn't get it. SCC is retired, get it? If you are retired, you can post anything you want. I personally know SCC, and trust me, the papers went in and the retirement star is all he carries now.
Idiot.
3/20/2012 07:44:00 PM
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Yeah. Well, personal friend of SCC, I hope you browse securely, else you just gave the Dept a place to pursue a connection to the blog.
That being said, perhaps you should read SCC's response, instead of trying to speak for him/them. The response differs a bit from yours, so why not just let him/her/them defend themselves.
They do a better job of it and they don't 'out' their friends while doing it.
Just Wondering said...
NorthSide said...
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3/20/2012 04:58:00 PM
So what gives?
Is Northside now a New Yawker chasing perps and skels in the Big Apple?
3/20/2012 07:24:00 PM
One can only hope...
Anonymous said...
Yesterday Rham denied a parade permit and one of the reasons was a shortage of police. Rahm fancies himself the smartest guy in the room, but he is no attorney. By saying what he said, he may have left himself open to liability for damages and injuries that may result from this party for the elite. Make no mistake about it, this is no "Emergency";this was planned months in advance and the consequences were obvious and expected.
3/20/2012 11:11:00 AM
Hmmmmm if they are short police for the parade(aka protest march) and NATO meetings at the same time, what's he think the protestors won't protest during the meetings. Sounds like he's trying to get rid of NATO too.
Guys it time to see the writing on the wall, er blog. Face facts. This city sucks! We can bitch and complain all we want about hiring more officers to help, but its never going to happen. We are going to be expected to do more with less. Fact. The animal is never going away, and with the help of politicians, reverends,media, and the uninformed liberals in this city, WILL only get stronger and more violent. I would love to go back to the 60's, 70's and even 80's and start breaking skulls to address the issue, but those days are long gone. Fact. We, simply put, can't win! So what now? Simple. Let the animals run the zoo. Make the reverends, alderman, liberals, media, the mayor, everyone see the road blocks officers face in violent communities. Let ignorance rule. Let accountability replace denial. Take the blinders off the parents, and anyone else who is afraid to admit the real problem, to identify the animals who conduct themselves in a subhuman manner. Race demographics associated with crime statistics couldn't possibly be wrong. Wake up Chicago and stop being afraid to say what is true.......The survival of this city may depend on it.
Impeach Mike Shields!
If we use a no confidence vote on every Supt. we look like cry babies and the motion is ineffectual.
Be careful for what you wish for you might get it ( ie Weiss leaving)
Lesson learned
If the middle class keeps getting stripped of services just to pay for generations of people not willing to get off the governments dime, its inevitable the middle class will disappear and begin looking to take from the ones above them...its a cycle...its getting to point where it could happen...
Indict some aldermans, reverands and youll see how many communities are affected by this. I'm sure many will start to sing out loud in there communites to much money will be lost in this areas..
3/20/2012 03:26:00 PM
Lmao. Dude they are indicted them and they are still getting re-elected! Only in Chitown!
Anonymous said...
What a joke of an FOP meeting!! I am just disgusted.
3/20/2012 09:32:00 PM
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Were you not part of Mike's ticket?
You made a ass of yourself yesterday.
Were you the officer who did not want your unit number on the ballot?
Was your father was an inspector?
Apples do not fall far from the tree.
Do we even have a FOP anymore? They just sit around collecting paychecks while everyone else is getting ass rammed! Yeah, I 100% agree with the no confidence vote but does FOP have the nut sack to make waves...I doubt it. We have a rookie FOP president and haven't had a good FOP in many, many years, maybe we should make a stand without FOP's help. Enough is enough already!
No confidence Mike Shields! Where are you guy? Do you think you are FOP President to achieve a new high score on your computer playing Tetris. Have a voice, grow a sack, and voice the police officers opinions or you will go down as the worst FOP president ever! Let the citizens of the country know that we have no confidence in our mayor and superintendent. You have the power too, now freakin use it!
I don't know if another union would benefit us any better. I think what we need to do is stop treating our elections like its student council elections in high school. This should not be a popularity contest, it should not be based on how many arrests you have made in your career. We should get some members who have taken labor management classes and labor law. For those of you still pursuing degrees on the company dime, consider doing that instead of criminal justice. Those of you going to law school consider labor law. Thats what we need.
put swat back in a beat car , when needed they can go find a phone booth , change into their cool green uniform and respond faster than a speeding bullet
The only motion happening at an FOP meeting is a bowel movement after inhaling some free pizza at the bar...
What do you think we are showing the world again?
3/20/2012 10:38:00 PM
the future, if the obamanation is reelected.
Yeah. Well, personal friend of SCC, I hope you browse securely, else you just gave the Dept a place to pursue a connection to the blog.
3/21/2012 12:13:00 AM
How long have you been on this job? Do you really think our Department has the capability to pull this off? Let me assure you, we don't!!! You're one of the guys who thinks the new stars have tracking devices in them, aren't you?
NorthSide, do you really think WE care about (whistleblower Adrian) Schoolcraft (and) the NYPD(?)" - 12:10 AM
"WE"??? And your group is...?
Are you aware that respected academics have recently confirmed what most knew all along? CHICAGO IS THE MOST POLITICALLY CORRUPT CITY IN THE NATION!
In the absence of vigilant local media truthfully exposing our plight, what can one do to restore some semblance of professionalism, integrity, transparency, legitimacy, honor and dignity to what I resolutely regard as the most noble of callings?
BLOW THE WHISTLE, lightweight! (or more likely, disingenuous shill for the CORRUPT powers that be).
Have you noticed that what happens in the NYPD (CompStat, executive officers, etc.) is now happening in the CPD?
Is our current "top cop" a product of that very same NYPD command regime as Brooklyn North Chief Michael Marino?
Ergo, NO CITY IN THE NATION NEEDS WHISTLEBLOWERS MORE DESPERATELY THAN CHICAGO WITH "THE CHICAGO WAY".
I await your response forthwith. ("chirping crickets" translates that you are full of shit with a not so hidden agenda). Furthermore, your refusal to identify yourself obviously diminishes any credibility in your drivel.
"The police should march just before NATO. The whole world will be watching..."
The police should march DURING nato!
Proactive or Reactive???
They pay us the same regardless of the two. You have to remember that. If we remain reactive we have a less chance of getting hurt. We fulfill our obligations and do our jobs. We have to stay together. No more and no less. This is the only way to let the public know what is happening here. Let the city turn into Detroit. These people don't give a shit about us, our pensions, or our families. Let the voters start screaming, not us.
retired mcnulty isnt working how bout we kick the idea around for him to head the fop.
3/20/2012 10:00:00 PM
FOP? No.
We need him to be SUPERINTENDENT.
The problem won't go away with more manpower. More manpower will solve one part of the equation, and that is officer safety. In my book, that is reason enough to hire a few thousand more cops. The other part of the problem is the court system. Until these liberal judges stop letting these violent asshats out all the time, and our governor stops his early release program, the predators will continue to maim and kill with impunity and if they get caught, no big deal cause they know a Cook County judge is more than likely going to release them asap.
Somebody at the retirement seminar today asked Shield's why the FOP hasn't sued the city to force them to shore up the pensions like Detroit unions did, and all he did was sputter--and never answered the question.
Also, don't know if anyone knows, but the city does not have to offer a health plan after June 2013. So if you retire now and are not 55, in a couple of years you could have no health care. The only way you are guaranteed health care is if you take the 55 and out.
Although the 55 and out has to be negotiated through the contract, so as long as we are still operating under the old contract, if you are 55 you are still eligible for it.
Does anyone know if after the contract expires and while we are in negotiations or if we are in arbitration, is the last contract still binding?
How about they hire someone from WITHIN the department to be supt!
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what individual from within the department would be acceptable to USDOJ?
>>>How long have you been on this job? Do you really think our Department has the capability to pull this off? Let me assure you, we don't!!! You're one of the guys who thinks the new stars have tracking devices in them, aren't you?
3/21/2012 10:58:00 AM<<<
Before you say anything else check out...
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last contract is binding until new contract is signed. One question if 55 and out is in new contract does the city have to abide by the old contract? Anything thats in the old contract is only good until the end of the contract or until a new one is signed
Really do think Mike shields has a magic wand and can just announce that the mayor bad guy and sup. bad guy. All the public will magically do exactly what Mike says on the press. Mike can posture all he wants in the press and slam the mayor all day. But remember the saying you shouldn't bite the hand that feeds. Mike still has to work with these people. Although watching him take impossible inflexible stances will only make him look as foolish as Karen Lewis president of teachers union. She's a joke. She has no power except for the clown suit/grimace sacks that she wears. So as much as we love Shields bashing, we need to support the fop because its the best we got.
Somebody at the retirement seminar today asked Shield's why the FOP hasn't sued the city to force them to shore up the pensions like Detroit unions did, and all he did was sputter--and never answered the question.
Also, don't know if anyone knows, but the city does not have to offer a health plan after June 2013. So if you retire now and are not 55, in a couple of years you could have no health care. The only way you are guaranteed health care is if you take the 55 and out.
Although the 55 and out has to be negotiated through the contract, so as long as we are still operating under the old contract, if you are 55 you are still eligible for it.
Does anyone know if after the contract expires and while we are in negotiations or if we are in arbitration, is the last contract still binding?
3/21/2012 02:09:00 PM
Read your contract. It is in effect until a new one takes its place.
You are mistaken about the 55 and out being guaranteed insurance for those who leave 'now'.
Retirees are only guaranteed the same coverage active members have. In other words, whatever coverage the Department ends up with after June of 2013, is what retirees will also have. Retirees will not have 'better' coverage than active officers, if the City fails to provide the same level of health care coverage as we have today.
In other words, retirees are in the same boat as actives, come July of 2013. If you're thinking you'll retire in June of 2013 and 'lock in' better healthcare coverage, you're going to be disappointed.
And, Mike Shields doesn't have an apostrophe in his name. I don't care if you do or don't insult him, but you just look smarter if you know how to spell your union president's name.
That's not what the guy at the retirement seminar said. The only ones who will be protected are the ones who sign up for the 55 benefit, because it is binding. And Shields''''''', Shields, Shield's, is still an ass and has no answers for tough questions.
Said we have to endorse Madigan so we don't piss him off and we end up paying more into our pensions. Said if we piss Madigan off he will single us out and put us through hell.
Dear Fellow FOP member, past and present,
A movement to finally expose the "police brutality" law suit industry for the fraud it has been for over twenty years is taking shape. Chicago Police Officers, retired and active, attorneys, private investigators and now even members of the media are joining this movement. All of this combines to leave police officers with the first cause for optimism in a long, long time.
The Anthony Porter murder case is poised to become the initial domino to set off a chain reaction in the lucrative (for lawyers) wrongful conviction industry. Anthony Porter was a career criminal who murdered a couple in 1982. He was tried, convicted and sentenced to death when Northwestern University’s Innocence Project became involved. Headed by David Protess, the Innocence Project eventually got Porter pardoned for the murder. But a closer look at Protess’ activities reveals Porter was guilty of the murder all along. And now there is a growing body of evidence showing that Protess and his colleagues broke numerous laws in freeing Porter. When this case topples, a fire-storm over similar wrongful conviction cases will be ignited, police on the street today will be much safer from similar prosecutions, and the steady drain on City and FOP coffers will dribble to a halt. It’s an opportunity that can’t be ignored.
It's time that our side starts to set the agenda, rather than continuing to passively allow the agenda to be set for us, then always responding from the defensive. You, as a fellow union member, occupy a position of importance that is impossible to overstate: the media can't ignore a ground swell union movement. It’s time the union took action against Protess and Northwestern University.
For more information, particularly on the Porter/Protess debacle, please check out our website, at chicagojusticedenied.com. For the time being, just passing this letter on to every individual who you know to be a member of the police deparment is all that’s needed.
In solidarity,
Chicagojusticedenied.com
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