Media Creates a Crisis (UPDATED)
- Following in line with their broadcast television colleagues who deliberately edited the audio of a 9-1-1 call of George Zimmerman, the Florida community watch volunteer who shot teenager Trayvon Martin, to falsely impute racist motives to him, MSNBC.com, in an unbylined piece did the exact same thing in text form, stripping out vital information which made Zimmerman appear to be racially motivated against Martin, who is black.
(What the transcript said):
ZIMMERMAN: This guy looks like he's up to no good, [begin ellipsis] or he's on drugs or something. It's raining, and he's just walking around, looking about.
911 DISPATCHER: Okay, is this guy, is he white, black, or Hispanic? [end ellipsis]
ZIMMERMAN: He looks black.
(What MSNBC broadcast in text and tape):
ZIMMERMAN: This guy looks like he's up to no good, .... He looks black.
No retraction was ever issued and the correction appeared as if by magic once the blogs started picking up on the deception.
ABC misrepresents tape of Zimmerman at police station:
- (what ABC broadcast)
A police surveillance video taken the night that Trayvon Martin was shot dead shows no blood or bruises on George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch captain who says he shot Martin after he was punched in the nose, knocked down and had his head slammed into the ground.
But then forensics specialists enhanced the video and located this:
And finally, the New York Times suddenly realized Zimmerman wasn't a gigantic raging lunatic, while Trayvon wasn't a flyweight either. Zimmerman has been described as anywhere from 220 pounds up to 240, Trayvon as 140. Turns out both weights were wrong:
Either the NY Times needs to tear out the front page or they have just delivered an epic fail. In either case, they have delivered a tilt to the scales of justice.
In a long attempt to detail the night of the Trayvon Martin killing they include this description of the fatal scuffle:
However it started, witnesses described to the 911 dispatcher what resulted: the neighborhood watch coordinator, 5-foot-9 and 170 pounds, and the visitor, 6-foot-1 and 150, wrestling on the ground.
UPDATE: Now CNN has enhanced the 9-1-1 call and their own reporter is casting doubt on the alleged "racial slur" contained within:
“It certainly sounds like that word to me,” Gary Tuckman said when the audio was first enhanced. But after the latest enhancement, he’s not so sure:
“Now it does sound less like that racial slur. … From listening in this room, and this is a state-of-the-art room, it doesn’t sound like that slur anymore. It sounds like … we‘re hearing the swear word at first and then the word ’cold.’ And the reason some say that would be relevant, is because it was unseasonably cold in Florida that night and raining.”
The audio expert agreed it sounded like “cold,” and said the new method gets rid of a lot more background noise but doesn’t change the voice or words.
ABC, NBC/MSNBC, The New York Times and now CNN have all withdrawn, corrected, or disavowed their initial reports. So once again, the media abets the rush to judgement and lays waste to its already tattered reputation for a corrupt political agenda espoused by enablers and baiters of the lowest order. How about letting the system work the way it was meant to?
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George Zimmerman was fired from his job as an under-the-table security guard for “being too aggressive,” a former co-worker told the Daily News.
Zimmerman worked for two different agencies providing security to illegal house parties between 2001 and 2005.
“Usually he was just a cool guy. He liked to drink and hang with the women like the rest of us,” he said. “But it was like Jekyll and Hyde. When the dude snapped, he snapped.”
The source said Zimmerman, who made between $50 and $100 a night, was let go in 2005.
“He had a temper and he became a liability,” the man said. “One time this woman was acting a little out of control. She was drunk. George lost his cool and totally overreacted,” he said. “It was weird, because he was such a cool guy, but he got all nuts. He picked her up and threw her. It was pure rage. She twisted her ankle. Everyone was flipping out. He definitely loved being in charge, he loved the power."
The year 2005 was a bad one for Zimmerman: he was arrested for fighting with a cop trying to arrest his friend for underage drinking, and he and his ex-fiancée took out protective orders against each other.
This is why the media is so hated and losing so many readers. They insight hate and anger just to get a story going to get people to watch. They are a lying joke and no one believes them anymore. This story should get national attention and maybe Jesse jackass and Al no so sharpton should protest NBC and ABC for making a bad situation worse just for self gain.
So, the media encourages racial tension and then gets off scott free. Rather, they even BENEFIT, because now their readership goes up, as they report on the inevitable fallout.
And, unfortunately, there WILL be fallout.
Rodney King again
Fuck all this Trayvon bullshit! Can I post this?
Give me a break! The races absolutely despise one another! When were you NOOBS born? Each race wants power over one another! To pretend to believe otherwise is self-delusional (i.e., WHO ARE YOU KIDDING BUT YOURSELF)! Blacks want power over the “insert color”. Whites want power over the “insert color”. Hispanics want power over the “insert color”. Browns want color over the “insert color”.
Ethnic superiority has been the primary goal of all races since THE BEGINING OF TIME. We see this now in the words of the self-promoting words of the so called ‘prominent black leaders’. Yeah – what a joke! Jesse and Al are carnival creep shows (unless you’re black)!
You CRIMINAL pricks don’t scare me a bit. Know why? Because I’m not afraid to die to get rid of you SELF-SERVING-TAKE-WHAT-I-CAN-AND-STEAL-FROM-OTHERS-MARXISTS! Why’s that? Because I have a GIGANTIC .45 Cal and I’ll gladly put one of its slugs right between your eyes if you violate my civil rights (BTW, I hate the ACLU – They’re Marxists). I’ll watch your worthlessness die with a smile on my face if you dare violate my AMERICAN RIGHT TO KICK YOUR CRIMINAL ASS when you TREAD ON ME (and I don’t give a rat’s @$$ what your skin color is)!
BTW, I’m a child of immigrants.
what else is the left good for other then false information & lies. see the 5th floor and the white house. "ya never let a crisis go to waste"
The news media is controlled by the ruling class. The ruling class wants the riots to keep the lower class divided. When the riots start, Obama should be indicted of Inciting A Riot for his comment, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon.". Let David Axelrod and his band of propaganda minions explain Obama's pre-mature comment
I've been trying to say this for a long time now... you cannot believe everything you read in the newspaper or hear on tv! That's why I get upset when we (CPD) rush to judgement of one of our own.
2012- the year of the riots
-Trayvon Fallout
-NATO
-Bulls championship
-Obama win OR lose
the Jews are using the blacks as muscle against the white race.....I hate Illinois nazies
.hit it....midtown forever
This whole story is doctored. It ain't the first and it ain't the last. Let's all sing kumbaya.
Not a cop, but used to work for the media. It is true that a producer tries to make their own views come out for a story. They just want shock value. They want the story everybody will read, at no cost to anybody's reputation. "let's go this way with it" was heard all the time. There was no fact based reporting, just opinionated views of an ignorant few. It won't change because they don't care.
Don't doubt that George Zimmerman WILL be indicted by a grand jury. The Feds could indict a ham sandwich if they wanted to. Those juries are all rigged to come out the way they want. Same thing with the actual jury that will hear the case. The Feds will spend $MILLIONS to send Zimmerman to prison because he tried to keep his neighborhood safe. Zimmerman has already been tried and convicted in the media. All that awaits is the execution. The LYNCHING. As much as Black folks have denounced the lynchings back in the Old South they seem to have little hesitation to lynch someone who is not one of their own. And certainly if by chance Zimmerman is not indicted or found guilty the assholes will hit the streets and riot because they didn't get their pound of flesh. And the same corrupt extortionist self serving Reverends and media Liberal haters will call for calm and peace. Fucking HYPOCRITES! Good luck George. You are going to need it.
Let the West and South sides burn!!!
Obama and the Democrats need to get their base together for November. Wouldn't be hard to believe that this entire circus in Florida was conjured up to do just that. The shooting happened a month before the shit hit the fan for George Zimmerman. Gave plenty of time for the Liberal wizards to do their thang with the media and Reverends. Their have been hundreds os shooting of Black men and boys in the time of the Florida event till now. Where is the outrage? Black on Black doesn't count? These are still lives being snuffed out.
Now the parents of the late Trayvon Martin are filing suit against the homeowners association which allowed George Zimmerman to patrol. Law suits, trade marks on all items associated with Trayvon, and who knows what else. Maybe even a theme park. HOODIELAND. Mommy and Daddy are going to be very very wealthy when this all comes to and end. Almost like winning the Mega Millions without even buying a ticket.
Zimmerman should sue! Freedom of press does not mean freedom to lie and mamipulate. There is a reason why the states attorneys nor feds have confidently stepped in.
CPD Creates Crisis With Chicago Media:http://shortwaveamerica.blogspot.com/2012/04/nbc-channel-5-reporters-detained-by.html
Why no mention of this in the March archives?
Spin games at their finest.
Rahm is trying to talk the officials in Florida to release the findings on the same day as NATO.
He just wants to get this destroying the City thingie over with.
would not an E.T. - or whatever they call them in Florida - have taken photos of the guy's injuries?
The ignorant masses are demanding "justice" in theys "communities"
we are fucking doomed as a nation
I really hate to think what will happen through out the USA if they find that Zimmerman did nothing wrong . Standby with your riot gear and extra ammo .
EZ, They plan to send PFather PFlieger to PFlorida. He'll PFix their problems, just like he's PFixed ours!
i watched bill maher last night for the first time and the original air date was 30 March. he showed that clip of Zimmerman as absolute proof of Zimmerman's guilt. i doubt he will follow up on this. that show was awful, maher is a grade A goof
You mean like when Rodney King was "beaten" and for whatever reason, the media chose to show only a few seconds of the incident rather than the entire tape? Listen SCC, America is a rotten, dirty, racist, no-good Country and if the Media has to manipulate every news story to get that point across than so be it.
We have No Real, Truthful Media in this country. they can't stand to tell the truth !!!! They just have to create situations that they know will cause further shit. Are the pretend reverunds & race baiters paying the media ? Perhaps they've joined forces with them ???
Possible Trayvon Martin Retaliation In Ohio
Posted on April 4, 2012 by Hunter Wallace
Ohio
The climate of hate created by Al Sharpton and the Mainstream Media over the Trayvon Martin shooting is now translating into random retaliatory strikes against the White community:
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2012/04/04/confirmed-trayvon-martin-retaliation-in-ohio/
and they just opened the door for a huge lawsuit,
media dopes
Dont forget the Haditha Marines who were guilty as hell according to the MSM as well as Congressman Murtha (D).....until the trial where they were all found completely innocent. And at the same time they ignore any connection between Islam & the Ft. Hood shooter.
Bottom line, unarmed kid is dead and all he was carrying was skittles and tea. Shot dead by a wannabe cop. There have been times in the past (and I am sure this will either get flagged or cops will not like it) where there were questionable shootings but it was a cop who was at least authorized to carry the weapon, had proper training and in a situation where the victim was either told to stop, halt or had questions asked of him or her. This could have been avoided if Martin was allowed to walk back home. Period, end of story. We have no way of knowing ever because Martin is dead. How many of you have children who if they were approached by a man getting out of a van would fight for their lives? I know mine would.
The last paragraph, asking if Rahm and McCarthy have a contingency plan, is they probably will not need one as the G or local authorities will do their damndest to arrest and charge Zimmerman to appease the Sharpsons, Jacksons, politicians, etc. It's a shame, but Zimmerman will be one of the three crucified on Calvary.
Regarding the media, if you can't report the news, make the news. If it weren't for all the outright lies told by the media, newspapers would consist of only a few pages and television newscasts would be almost nonexistant.
This one takes the cake. Now the Congressional Black Caucus wants to pass a resolution in the US Congress praising the life of Treyvon Martin. Huh? Is this mutt now some kind of a national hero for getting himself shot while acting like an animal. They also want all "stand your ground" laws taken away from all of the states that have it. Good luck with that one. Why not just make this assholes birthday a national holiday. Talk about media over kill. Just shows how crazed the Black "leadership" in this country has become. Unfucking real!
NBC EDITGATE: BUCK STOPS WITH BRIAN WILLIAMS
"...A very specific set of words was cut. It was not random. And it was not a mistake.
So the question becomes: whose head should roll?
The answer is obvious: Brian Williams.
This is no isolated incident for Williams. He’s an ardent leftist who began his career by interning for Jimmy Carter. When Williams moderated a Republican debate in September 2011, he asked Rick Perry how he could sleep at night while implementing the death penalty as governor of Texas. After September 11, he implied that America’s “military swagger” provided the impetus for the attacks. He compared the bombing of Iraq to the U.S. military bombing of Japan in its indiscriminateness.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/04/03/NBC-News-Brian-Williams
I totally agree.
MSNBC isnt the only media outlet but at least they reported it. Everything you touched on I saw on CNN and in the early stages of the reporting MSNBC along with CNN had the entire transcript of the 911 call on and as far as the video goes as soon as it was released it was reported even by MSNBC that he had some type of wound on the back of his head. Certain hosts play certain parts of the tape video than others. People just have to learn how to cross reference the news to piece the truth together.
Sadly enough I deleted many people from my facebook account because they were crying the typical boo hoo racism crap. Not all were black either. Like I said many times....let the law run it's course, then make your decision. But typical people who are spoon fed their whole life and expect what they want when they want it always cause problems.
Fuck Treeyvon Treyvon, Avon or whatever his name was!
Mr Obamas silence speaks volumes since he "showed his ass" with his public comments regarding this case rushing to judgement thus tainting any would be jury pool. Let us also speak volumes come voting time and aust this UNSTABLE President and send him back to Chicago where he can make all the foolish comments he wants...he acted "stupidly".
"And that brings up an interesting point - does anyone know if McCarthy and Rahm have a contingency plan if a Grand Jury declines to indict in Florida? Because we're going to need one and we're going to need it in a hurry."
You already know the answer to that one.I have two Colt 6920s and 5k of green tip 5.56 at the ready and plenty of P-mags and a few Betas.
The Trayvonators will not ravage my store.
Since when does the truth matter to the Left?
Is Trayhonious Martin still the patron Son of the Messiah?
Or did He clarify or retract that previous statement.
No Bill
@ Ted; Hey!!! Who you callin a NOOB???
OT-Keep in mind how much money the city gives the Cubs and then tells us there is no money to justify even a 1% a year raise for police.
I HATE the media ~ they are all scum
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And that brings up an interesting point - does anyone know if McCarthy and Rahm have a contingency plan if a Grand Jury declines to indict in Florida? Because we're going to need one and we're going to need it in a hurry.
Anonymous said...
Don't doubt that George Zimmerman WILL be indicted by a grand jury. The Feds could indict a ham sandwich if they wanted to. Those juries are all rigged to come out the way they want. Same thing with the actual jury that will hear the case. The Feds will spend $MILLIONS to send Zimmerman to prison because he tried to keep his neighborhood safe. Zimmerman has already been tried and convicted in the media.
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To SCC and the other poster I say this: SCC you are correct that you will need a plan and quickly, but it won't necessarily be because the Grand Jury does not indict, it will be because the STate Attorney will decide not to present it. The only reason she might present it is to get herself off thepolitical "hook."
As far as theother post goes, a Fed indictment is actually unlikely, unless they can come up with some kind of hate crime violation and that is unlikely. A Civil Rights violation (Sect 1983) requres that the individual charged be "acting under color of law or ordinance." That would be a real long stretch for a self appointed neighborhood watch person. Goofy things happenm, but that would set a dangerous precedent.
"If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon".. wow
The media can go to hell.
Have a look at this video of a MOB OF BLACKS beating and stripping a white man.
No outcry here? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=679_1332640868&p=1
The media industrial complex has been infiltrated by those who would seek to purvey their agenda, whether it be socialism or any form of marxism under the guise of " social justice ".
All this while NEVER letting the truth stand in the way.
4th estate?, HA! More like the 5th column.
Another media faux paux just posted on Drudge.
CNN now admits that Zimmerman did not say "fuckin c**n" in his initial 911 cal but instead said it was "fuckin cold" that night in Florida.
The MSM has really done the nation in their coverage of this incident!
"Has the mainstream media learned nothing from their rush to judgement during the Duke Lacrosse Scandal?"
THEIR BEHAVIOR IS INTENTIONAL.
...as we just saw in that disingenuous Oprah column where we were told that the police had shot a black man 28 times -- while omitting the fact that it had been in a terrible gun battle, with the suspect firing 17 rounds at the police from a "high-capacity semiautomatic handgun" and two or three officers injured.
THESE PEOPLE WANT TO START A RACE RIOT.
Once they get it rolling, they'll turn the cameras around on the citizens trying to save themselves. Oh, we remember Rodney King -- they showed more footage of the Korean store owners on the roofs with rifles than they did of the rioters.
...or just not show anything at all, as in the riots we had when Obama won.
Not knowing the true facts, but if anything is true, the dispatcher told him not to confront the kid. I believe that zimmerman deserves an unbias report and should not have to deal with this racest bullshit but he is not the police. Period. If I did that or even if the police on duty did that you would have your balls rung out. He put himself in a situation where his life may or may not have been in immediate danger "reasonably." It was one on one fight. If you followed him to not lose sight of him fine, but if you're a security guard and you can't take down one punk kid your a stroke. Poor judgment on Zimmermans part undeniable. There was no breakin and even if there was-no weapon found on the kid. This idiot just made a huge argumnet for the anti-gun libral fucks because he used poor judgement prior to putting hiself in the situation. I know we are all pro-gun and conceled carry, but for christsake, let's not make this man out to be a medal Of honor winner either.
RE: Al Sharpton.
Does anyone remember Tawanna Brawley? Enough said.
Why are you for this Zimmerman guy. I am a person who needs a Florida CCW to carry and he hurts us all. This guy was trying too hard. This never happens on the no spin zone Fox. Why are you so far right SSC?
SCC,
you keep predicting civil unrest and riots. Obama election. Nato/G8. Bud Billiken. McCauley Graduation. St. Paddy's Day. Zimmerman "V" Day.
Eventually you'll be right.
Also the homicide detective who initially investigated the Martin killing wanted to charge Zimmerman. I guess he's part of the media conspiracy too.
Trying to turn Zimmerman into a poster boy for 2nd amendment rights is stupid. The guy is an asshole.
Martin was wearing a hoodie in the rain. That makes him a thug about as much as the uniform I wear and you may wear makes you Abbatte.
"Obama and the Democrats need to get their base together for November. Wouldn't be hard to believe that this entire circus in Florida was conjured up to do just that"
You're absolutely right, Axelrod got a hold of a political operative in florida who contacted Zimmerman told him cap a black guy, the Sanford Police will let you go & we got great fodder forthe upcoming election. Yep that was it alright
and now for something completely different.
Rolling Stone magazine takes on Rahm.
"Perhaps that’s why Obama pulled the plug: He grasped that Mayor Emanuel's macho bullshit made an apocalyptic smackdown during "Occupy Spring" almost inevitable."
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/why-rahm-emanuel-hates-democracy-20120403#ixzz1rBkEpMs6
Simply, its media sponsored racism. Another crisis that won't get wasted, fire up the Democrats to come out and vote their patron saint to another term.
mmm-mm-mmm!
When do we march ?
I hope that Zimmerman sues the crap out of NBC, ABC, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Jesse Jackson, Rev. Al and the lot of them for this fiasco.
Interesting question by a troll:
Anonymous said...
CPD Creates Crisis With Chicago Media:http://shortwaveamerica.blogspot.com/2012/04/nbc-channel-5-reporters-detained-by.html
Why no mention of this in the March archives?
4/05/2012 02:54:00 AM
FYI: That was one single boneheaded copper who got a bug up his ass for some reason that day and came out looking like a total idiot. In the Florida case we are talking the entire media across the country participating in steering this story for their own profit and political motives. Apples and bratwurst, my friend. Also, it was posted on our blogs so what exactly is your question??
NBC APOLOGIZES FOR EDITING 911 TAPE
http://news.yahoo.com/nbc-news-apologizes-editing-tape-911-call-014743826.html
I don't know when or why or who made these tapes instant public property; they are used to influence countless cases, say, before an arrestee has even been properly searched and put in a holding cell for the night, let alone before any sort of investigation has even started.
Why not slant it, nobody verifies their info and nobody holds the individuals responsible when the truth comes out.
The media will do whatever it takes to put their slant on a story. They're not going to let minor details like the truth get in the way.
Time for the Supremes to tighten up that "N.Y.Times v. Sullivan" doctrine
"Rodney King again."
--4/05/2012 12:33:00 AM
911 officials apologize after suspect shoots, kills man
Trayvon is OUT.
Jimma Reat is IN.
Jimma is a 22-year old Sudanese "kid" who was allegedly shot by some Mexicans in Denver during some sort of road-rage incident three or four days ago.
Denver 911 is already apologizing for "having given the wrong instructions" or something.
Here comes another huge city payout/instant martyr/race riot.
http://news.yahoo.com/denver-911-apologizes-deadly-instruction-202932590--abc-news-topstories.html
http://kdvr.com/2012/04/01/man-shot-to-death-after-early-morning-traffic-altercation/
Boy, they are working at this.
...and Pfleger burning T-shirts to help it along.
I've been trying to say this for a long time now... you cannot believe everything you read in the newspaper or hear on tv! That's why I get upset when we (CPD) rush to judgement of one of our own.
4/05/2012 01:13:00 AM
That is the most truthful thing said about this case. There has been an abundance of misinformation and false claims on both sides of the issue from the jump. You got people that are crazy for Martin and some crazy for Zimmerman. I cooled off after having my chain yanked on both sides of the fence of this issue.
Anonymous said...
the Jews are using the blacks as muscle against the white race.....I hate Illinois nazies
.hit it....midtown forever
4/05/2012 01:21:00 AM
I sure hope your not a cop, you fucking moron ....
The mainstream media is the new "Big Brother". Distorting the facts, changing the facts of the stories and sensationalizing stories in order to push their own agendas and sell commercial air time. They bend the facts to their liking and will. They don't report news fairly and ignore and under-report other news stories that do not fit into their slanted political view. If I did that in my job, I would be perjured and indicted. Accountability and integrity are surely lacking in the character of these editors and journalists who do this, which occurs on a daily basis. Maybe Zimmerman has grounds for civil action based on the maliciousness of the blatently distorted reporting.
Denver road rage update --
Deceased Sudanese "kid" Jimma Reat is variously 22, 24, or 26 years old, depending on which news outlet you look at.
http://news.yahoo.com/denver-911-apologizes-deadly-instruction-202932590--abc-news-topstories.html
"Let the West and South sides burn!!!"
--4/05/2012 01:52:00 AM
Yeah, maybe you'll get caught in it like Reginald Denny.
I saw it happen here in 1968. It's not something any sane person would want.
"the Jews are using the blacks as muscle against the white race.....I hate Illinois nazies
.hit it....midtown forever" [sic]
--4/05/2012 01:21:00 AM
We've had enough street lights shot out here already. Now, the Superintendent seems to be Posting While Intoxicated.
Where will it end?
The most recent cover of People magazine on the rack at the grocery store shows a very "young and innocent" pic of this Martin fellow. The thing must be about 5 years old, because he sure does look grown up in all the other photos I've seen of him....
"Now the parents of the late Trayvon Martin are filing suit against the homeowners association which allowed George Zimmerman to patrol. Law suits, trade marks on all items associated with Trayvon...Almost like winning the Mega Millions without even buying a ticket."
--4/05/2012 01:59:00 AM
New word in the English language -- "Gundowned."
Here is a profoundly stupid article in which Zimmerman has swollen to "250 pounds."
http://avstop.com/March_2012/senselessly_gundowned_trayvon_martin_aspired_to_be_an_aviation_mechanic.htm
Now, dig this --
"As we know Trayvon Martin did not return home after going to the local convenience store. His father concerned thought maybe he stopped off at a friend’s home. A few hours turned into days. Trayvon’s father called the police, they could not provide him with any information. Soon he called 911.
"After sitting in the morgue for three days the police finally showed up at the house with a photo of a child lying dead on a morgue stretcher with a toe tagged that stated “John Doe”."
As far as I can attempt to translate, in this family you could be gone for three days before anyone even noticed. Nothing unusual.
Hell, it took a whole month for this story to come out -- they needed to contact trademark attorneys, etc., first.
Ted Koppel would have asked:
"Why didn't Traylon call the police?"
News media across the country have yet to ask that simple question.
It doesn't matter, it did exactly what they wanted. Take the spotlight off of Obama making deals with Russia, not knowing the mic was live.
Everyone quickly forgot about this and it never developed. Strange how the US is hosting a conference in Obama's hometown, yet the US will not support NATO members
Zimmerman will be found guilty on something but not on the major offenses. I hope he sues.
I said before that I doubt he's a racist but overzealous yes. The more people attacked him the more I sided with him.
Sharpton, jackson and those who called for lynching him or his capture are all racist. If they hate whitey and this country so much they should move out of it
Fuck all of those fuckers
"There has been an abundance of misinformation and false claims on both sides of the issue from the jump. You got people that are crazy for Martin and some crazy for Zimmerman. I cooled off after having my chain yanked on both sides of the fence of this issue."
--4/05/2012 01:55:00 PM
Yes, you have to try to steer a straight course through it all.
I am not "crazy" about one side or the other. Martin, Zimmerman, you, me -- everyone is a mixture of good and bad in various proportions. That is human nature.
From everything I have seen, it seems correct to me that words were said on the street and that a fight ensued, in which one man, injured and fearing for his life, shot the other. There have been at least two cases in Chicago recently -- one well-known, the other almost unknown --
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-northwest-side-man-dies-day-after-being-punched-to-sidewalk-in-fight-20120319,0,5149769.story
-- in which people have died after hitting their heads on the pavement. I see a demonstrable threat to life here, justifying "one higher" under the Use Of Force rules, whether the offender is armed or unarmed.
When you suddenly find yourself in midair, time does something really weird, and you have the world's toughest judgment call to make in that hour of split-second before you even hit the ground.
Me, I don't like it. It makes me wish I were mowing the lawn or something, anything peaceful -- but here we are.
I cannot presume to make that call for someone else.
Some do harm and live. Others inflict the same damage and die.
Some attack a dozen times and are allowed to live -- then they try it one more time and they die. (Was that one in Calumet City recently?)
"I set before you life and death..." Keep an open mind as to what may be around the corner. Hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst.
God bless all here. Stay safe.
Here is what I think probably happened and could happen to anyone with a ccw permit in other states. Zimmerman was aggressively following Martin and gets a little to close to him. Martin, fearing for his own safety gets off the first punch as "he is standing his ground." Zimmerman, now getting pummelled by Martin attempts to "stand his ground" and shoots him. So the question is who was the instigator in all this? It does appear so far that Zimmerman was the instigator. I think he will be charged; with what I don't know. This is a tough one.
"Perhaps that’s why Obama pulled the plug: He grasped that Mayor Emanuel's macho bullshit made an apocalyptic smackdown during "Occupy Spring" almost inevitable."
--4/05/2012 11:35:00 AM
"Macho?" Emanuel?
All I saw was a mayor who runs and hides during snowstorms, etc. -- a disastrous failure to lead, to accomplish any emergency planning, leaving the whole mess in the hands of a team of leftover PR flacks from the Daley administration's failed Olympics attempt -- people experienced at serving out champagne, not prepositioning supplies. People who thought that anything along public safety lines was "doomsday thinking."
No tank-mechanic tales here -- "While working at an Arby's restaurant in his high school years, Emanuel severely cut his right middle finger on a meat slicer. He sought medical attention after suffering a severe infection from swimming in Lake Michigan and as a result, had his finger partially amputated."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emanuel
Sooo...
We can now say that POTUS Sparkle-Farts acted "stupidly" (as did a WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER)in the rush to judgement/fanning the flames in saying "If I had a son he'd look like Treyvon."
Heh...
Here's to George Zimmerman owning the homes, property, pensions and and children's/grandchildren's college funds and inheritances of all the yellow-pinky troskyite media stooges and howling make believe clergy who aided and abetted this train-wreck of defamation and slander.
It would thrill us to no end to see some of those decayed-ass hypocrites living in squatter camps with their families along the South Branch foraging the shallows for river rats, carp and crawdads to pad the pork n' beans with...
Funky-Assed Muthafuckahs...
No talent whores each and every one.
Thus be it ever for the blind and willfully ignorant tyrants of the media...
Mr. Zimmerman... Please own every single one of those bastards and make them examples for the rest of their ilk.
Bottom line, unarmed kid is dead and all he was carrying was skittles and tea. Shot dead by a wannabe cop. There have been times in the past (and I am sure this will either get flagged or cops will not like it) where there were questionable shootings but it was a cop who was at least authorized to carry the weapon, had proper training and in a situation where the victim was either told to stop, halt or had questions asked of him or her. This could have been avoided if Martin was allowed to walk back home. Period, end of story. We have no way of knowing ever because Martin is dead. How many of you have children who if they were approached by a man getting out of a van would fight for their lives? I know mine would.
4/05/2012 07:36:00 AM
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It would all have been avoided if the adult trespasser had not been trespassing and had not been acting suspiciously, too.
...as we just saw in that disingenuous Oprah column where we were told that the police had shot a black man 28 times -- while omitting the fact that it had been in a terrible gun battle, with the suspect firing 17 rounds at the police from a "high-capacity semiautomatic handgun" and two or three officers injured.
THESE PEOPLE WANT TO START A RACE RIOT.
Once they get it rolling, they'll turn the cameras around on the citizens trying to save themselves. Oh, we remember Rodney King -- they showed more footage of the Korean store owners on the roofs with rifles than they did of the rioters.
...or just not show anything at all, as in the riots we had when Obama won.
4/05/2012 10:13:00 AM
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OPRAH column? Seriously, are you that dumb?
I think the media did an excellent job in reporting this story.
Dan Rather
Anonymous said...
the Jews are using the blacks as muscle against the white race.....I hate Illinois nazies
.hit it....midtown forever
4/05/2012 01:21:00 AM
I sure hope your not a cop, you fucking moron ....
4/05/2012 01:59:00 PM
Relax there Mr. almighty no-humor cop. It's from the "Blues Brothers"
Hopefully the ZIMMERMANS have good attorneys, cause NBC, and the other news agencies who twisted the story, just to incite race into it and help OBAMA stick his two cents in, will be sued for a hell of a lot of money! Also, for false arrest, this man was justified, why was he put in cuffs??
This has axelrod/emmanuel written all over it. Wag the dog time. Get the race baiters/poverty pimps on the phone. Gotta get the apathetic occupiers, indifferent african-american voters population and show the world "whitey" is still oppressing people of color. Uh oh! Zimmerman isnt white, he's latino. Pretty soon, a demographic that will be 52% of the population, thus making "budweiser"jackson and msnbc teleprompter bumbler sharpton, even more irrelevant. Jagoff Jackson appealed for a voter registration drive, amid the tragedy of these parents losing a son, can you believe the audacity of this piece of garbage. B'Obama, stated if he had a son, he would look like this kid. Are you kidding me, the president went the, henry gates route, trying to make himself seem like he knows about urban plight, but forgot his gene pool could have easily produced a child that looked like justin bieber. Enough already! Its great MSM can get caught up in their bullshit, but the damage is done. Hope the obama advisors are proud of themselves for trying to polarize the nation, by race. Hope the link card registration drive was worth it.
If ONE person can make a difference imagine what 9,000 blue brothers can do (or not) in MAY!! The most dangerous person is one with nothing to lose and the racoon is trying to push people that run towards gun fire, not away from it, around!! Fuck you Racoon, fuck you Mcmuffin and Jfled...you were never the police.
If WE have to worry about posting OUR opinion on an "insignificant little blog" like SCC then there truly is a problem with America!
Not to mention the reverends encouraged the pathners with a hit reward.. what reverse racism. Especially when this is not even a black white issue. What a consiparcy now that national media doctrine evidence misreported, and even the president jumped on the band wagon..
Lol nbc apologizes for doctrine 911 calls, whoops my bad.. mistrail, slash civil lawsuit against nbc.
You're absolutely right, Axelrod got a hold of a political operative in florida who contacted Zimmerman told him cap a black guy, the Sanford Police will let you go & we got great fodder forthe upcoming election. Yep that was it alright
No smartass, they found a story, distorted it and ran with it. Republicans scare me but democrats terrify me!
-not the original poster
"Don't doubt that George Zimmerman WILL be indicted by a grand jury. The Feds could indict a ham sandwich if they wanted to."
SO true. When I think back to all of the perfectly good sandwiches I've lost to federal indictments....bastards.
It does kind of sound like there was an "s" at the end of the word Zimmerman spoke after the word "f...ing." You know, as in plural. Which means he wasn't talking about the cold. Of course, that's what I heard so that's my opinion.
SCC,
you keep predicting civil unrest and riots. Obama election. Nato/G8. Bud Billiken. McCauley Graduation. St. Paddy's Day. Zimmerman "V" Day.
Eventually you'll be right.
4/05/2012 11:16:00 AM
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Hey dumb fuck, what cushy inside spot were you working on obama night? Because where I was, THEY WHERE RIOTING! You really must have a good inside spot because every bud biliken parade I've ever worked, THEY WHERE RIOTING! I can only assume you don't have/watch tv or have had a chance to look at the st. paddys day incident on youtube? Because yep you guessed it, MINI-RIOTING again! And if you're stupid enough to believe nato will go smoothly then you either have a really good inside spot away from reality or you really are the world's biggest douche bag!
"OPRAH column? Seriously, are you that dumb?"
--4/05/2012 07:05:00 PM
Real people aren't perfect, get tired, have work to do, family to care for, difficulties to deal with, friends and neighbors stopping by...
Seriously.
Anonymous said...
I hope that Zimmerman sues the crap out of NBC, ABC, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Jesse Jackson, Rev. Al and the lot of them for this fiasco.
4/05/2012 12:52:00 PM
The wannabe loser who was told not to play police? Good luck with that.
Anonymous said...
Lol nbc apologizes for doctrine 911 calls, whoops my bad.. mistrail, slash civil lawsuit against nbc.
4/05/2012 10:46:00 PM
Doctrine 911 calls? WTF is that?
Anonymous said...
Lol nbc apologizes for doctrine 911 calls, whoops my bad.. mistrail, slash civil lawsuit against nbc.
4/05/2012 10:46:00 PM
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Translation:
Lol
NBC apologizes for doctoring 911 calls.
Whoops. My bad. (my mistake)
Mistrial. i.e. This will be grounds for a civil suit against NBC.
to the poster..calling me A fucking moron...meet me in 011 I ll let u borrow my copy of blues brothers ..FNG mook
Bottom line, unarmed kid is dead and all he was carrying was skittles and tea. Shot dead by a wannabe cop. There have been times in the past (and I am sure this will either get flagged or cops will not like it) where there were questionable shootings but it was a cop who was at least authorized to carry the weapon, had proper training and in a situation where the victim was either told to stop, halt or had questions asked of him or her. This could have been avoided if Martin was allowed to walk back home. Period, end of story. We have no way of knowing ever because Martin is dead. How many of you have children who if they were approached by a man getting out of a van would fight for their lives? I know mine would.
4/05/2012 07:36:00 AM
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It would all have been avoided if the adult trespasser had not been trespassing and had not been acting suspiciously, too.
4/05/2012 07:03:00 PM
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there's a "bottomer" line, pal ... he started beating Zimmerman .... you forget about that? how convenient
truth is, Zimmerman strikes me as a goof .. that's true, but it does seem Treyvon attacked first ... that meaningless to you? as a police officer, that carries no weight with you?
The wannabe loser who was told not to play police?
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Which carries what weight? He was a neighborhood watch captain. He was supposed to look out for his neighborhood. You can't tell people not to watch out for what is theirs.
For the last time...
The tape is out there, listen to it.
Zimmerman didn't volunteer that he was suspicious of Martin 'because' he was black. He cited his observations.
Later, only in response to the dispatchers question to apparently distinguish this individual (i.e. "Is he white, black or Hispanic")did Zimmerman reply that he appeared to be black.
Lastly, quit saying that the dispatcher told, ordered, demanded etc. that he not keep an eye on Martin.
Again, during the proceedings of the 'entire' tape, Zimmerman was giving the dispatcher a continual account of his actions and direction. The dispatcher then inquired in context with the changing directions of Martin, "Are you following him?"
When Zimmerman acknowledged that he was, the dispatcher replied, "We don't 'NEED' you to do that."
It sounds like advice or concern for the caller, hardly NOT an order or demand to cease and desist.
Spin, spin, spin.
Anonymous said...
I hope that Zimmerman sues the crap out of NBC, ABC, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Jesse Jackson, Rev. Al and the lot of them for this fiasco.
4/05/2012 12:52:00 PM
The wannabe loser who was told not to play police? Good luck with that.
4/06/2012 12:06:00 AM
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He was told, "Sir, we don't need you to do that." He wasn't told not to play police. He wasn't told anything that people are pretending he was told. Let's stick to facts here.
The wannabe loser who was told not to play police? Good luck with that.
4/06/2012 12:06:00 AM
How can you say this. You probably know nothing about this man except what was printed in the liberal media. Neighborhood watches exist all over this city and in this country and the members do a credible job. Are there some members who overreact a bit, probably. But many areas need these groupd because of the lack of police. These groups have been resoponsible for many good calls to the police. I hate when narrow minded aholes such as yourself make judgements based on little or no real knowledge. Let the truth come out for this incident.
Anonymous said...
Mr Obamas silence speaks volumes since he "showed his ass" with his public comments regarding this case rushing to judgement thus tainting any would be jury pool. Let us also speak volumes come voting time and aust this UNSTABLE President and send him back to Chicago where he can make all the foolish comments he wants...he acted "stupidly".
4/05/2012 08:35:00 AM
NEWS FLASH: We don't want the fucking community agitator either!!!
No smartass, they found a story, distorted it and ran with it. Republicans scare me but democrats terrify me!
-not the original poster
4/05/2012 11:16:00 PM
if you are in fear of your life, well, you know what to do.....
Chalkie
Mr Obama, your silence is epic...would you care to create a further racial divide with uninformed comments. A President should UNITE his country not DIVIDE it and destroy any due process Mr Zimmerman may have had...please step down sir.
Fuck you!
Sincerely,
President Obama
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Mr Obama, your silence is epic...would you care to create a further racial divide with uninformed comments. A President should UNITE his country not DIVIDE it and destroy any due process Mr Zimmerman may have had...please step down sir.
Producer fired, but the damage is already done & irreparable:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/nbc-fires-producer-over-edited-zimmerman-911-call-201124740.html
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