Tuesday, April 24, 2012

NATO Rumors

The rumor mill is on fire, and of course, no one at the Puzzle Palace is revealing squat:
  • Sheriffs have been informed that their days off are being canceled in May with little to no explanation;
  • Some suburban departments are warning their officers days off and vacations are being "delayed" and issuing fire retardant clothing to their members;
  • CPD is going to put the day crew in crown caps, no helmets and no cargo pants. Has anyone here ever seen what fire does to 80/20's?

Even some of our admitted non-police readers are noticing odd things:

  • Civilian here. I work in a high-rise on LaSalle in the heart of government and financial row. Had our quarterly fire drill last week. Subtle differences this time. Instead of going down one floor, they had us go down five. Fire marshal's spiel emphasized listening to the intercom and NOT assuming it would be an automatic evacuation. Instructions might actually be to shelter in place -- up to and including locking the doors -- because of disturbances outside. Hmm. Wonder why they added that?

Unfortunately, this is the mindset starting to take hold of the Department:

  • D/C Velez comes to roll calls this AM to talk about NATO. Says we've had training, blah blah, officer safety is paramount, blah blah, really care about officer safety.

    Then he drops the bomb. Seems GMac wants the front line police that will actually be marching WITH the protesters to have a "soft" look. Therefore our helmets will not be on our heads, but rather left in the bus they transported us in. But don't worry, the Ninja police will be paralleling us and can jump out at a moments notice.

    Almost felt sorry for Velez, as he was just reading notes that I'm sure were put together by the brain trust downtown.

    So, 2nd watch officers on the front line YOU ARE EXPENDABLE !
    (and more so than you thought)

    But don't worry, They'll have some sort of 'glasses' there that you can wear if you so choose.

    And oh yeh, they will be filming everything, so I'm sure they'll be able to stop the guy that threw the bag of piss before he gets back on his plane. Officer safety, my ass !
Someone downtown ought to muzzle Velez. He isn't doing anyone any favors.

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206 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"But don't worry, They'll have some sort of 'glasses' there that you can wear if you so choose."


Maybe we can all wear those Groucho Glasses.

We'll all look the same when it comes to ass-kickin' time.

4/24/2012 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous The Raccoon said...

No problems. With Lori Healey and Debra Kirby running the show, it's going to be a cakewalk. They're the top pros in the country in crowd control strategy and defusing rioters. Bring it on!

4/24/2012 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Maria Pena said...

Velez is a douche bag

4/24/2012 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very simple, if you are in a crown hat and 80/20's the shit starts flying, literally, proceed to the rear with the gear. Let the city burn if they want us to be the nice police.

4/24/2012 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carlos Velez is a helluva a good man. Be careful, turning on each other is victory for the goofs

4/24/2012 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting about the soft look. If I'm dead from an injury to my head, I'll also appreciate the soft pillow of a coffin.

America

4/24/2012 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Velez is a full boat merit selection in every single rank.PERIOD! Will do whatever he is told. He is unable to develop any ideas or think on his own.

4/24/2012 12:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ninja police?

4/24/2012 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

heh (video) - Chicago "Shot/Dead" Scoreboard

4/24/2012 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gmac wants the soft look ????

Gmac is softer than baby shit, as is the racoon eyed fool that call's himself "King of Chicago" !!!

Where will Gmac be hiding while all the shit is getting tossed around ?

It's impossible to soar like an Eagle when the formation is led by a bunch of "Turkeys" !!!

4/24/2012 12:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This idea is so retarded that it has to be true

4/24/2012 12:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Feel sorry for Velez? Fuck that triple merit prick. He is getting paid to be exempt management, an International Deputy Chief, whatever the fuck that is. If he doesn't agree with McCarthy's decision to have front line officers helmet-less, than Velez should earn his paycheck and tell McCarthy why its a bad idea. Dont tell us what a pussy you are Velez, go tell your boss.

4/24/2012 01:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great thinking; put the oldest and most fragile officers the department has on the front lines unequipped to do their job. This city is just begging for all hell to break loose.

4/24/2012 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ha! To bad flu season ain't over yet!

4/24/2012 01:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is about 100,000 freshly armed Wisconsinites who would probably like something to do, let's give them a call.

4/24/2012 02:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They did the same thing a few years back. They had all the short women on Michigan Ave. on the street with no helmet. They were left on the bus a few blocks away, and told, by Maria Maher that if there was a disturbance everyone would go back and get them. All the men six feet tall and over were inside the Hyatt waiting with turtle gear.

4/24/2012 03:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DC Velez...how many merit promotions did he get? He cares about one person and only one person. He is an example of what is wrong with this dept. No balls, a perfect puppet for that ass downtown with 4 stars on his shoulder.

4/24/2012 03:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The CPD is preparing for NATO's visit. What are they doing about the May 1st march, by the "occupiers"? It's expected worldwide.

http://www.chicagospring.org/May1

4/24/2012 04:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my husband is a suburban po and i work for 3 suburnan dept's... they have cancelled all time off requests during nato

4/24/2012 05:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have been told the sunglasses have the same technology as the glasses in the movie "They Live" circa 1988 with Roddy Roddy Piper.

We will finally get to see if Kirby is an alien.

4/24/2012 05:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone downtown ought to muzzle Velez. He isn't doing anyone any favors.

They should definitely muzzle Velez...not because he speaks too much but simply because he is a dog! He is a back-stabbing mutt who cares nothing for any police officer on this job. He has been handed everything since the day he was hired. He has always been in very cushy spots and got all his promotions without ever passing a test. He can barely write a coherent sentence on his own...Ignorant and completely fucking useless. CARLOS VELEZ and those like him are the reason G8 was moved to Washington DC!!!

4/24/2012 05:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tell me why Homeland Security can't keep the foreign, professional protestors out of our country. They have no Constitutional right to come to our country and protest let alone riot.

As for our home grown rioters if they are arrested here and it can be shown that they have participated in riots before, they should be held without bond. Let them meet the vice lords and 26ers in County Jail. Use the law as it was meant to be used.

4/24/2012 06:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Helmets, now no helmets, 2nd watch then 3rd watch and then back to 2nd watch. Face shields then no face shields then Gorilla Glue and now 2nd Watch with crown cap and "soft" look. Are these people fucking crazy or merely terminally stupid?

Can I wear my short pants and bicycle jacket? How about shorts and dress blouse? Plus garters holding up knee socks?

It is April 24th and I still have not received one second of training and wouldn't trust it if I did.

Here is my marching orders, learned from years of patrol division duty: Force will be met with an increased level of force. Steel ball bearings shot at me will be met with gunfire from a .45 cal semi auto loaded with 230 grain JHP +P loads. Same with fluids contaminated with disease that can kill me.

Fuck these assholes and our non-leaders.

I suggest simply removing all police officers from the downtown area. Remove the single most visible source of antagonism and I will guess that there will be no fights with police or attacks on police if there is simply no police. Put Traffic Management Aids down there to wave their arms all around like they do.

Chicago can be the first city to totally diffuse fights with police by removing all police. If they have no one to throw piss on what will they do then?

4/24/2012 06:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a fucking joke!!!!!! I really hope shit hits the fan. Those of you poor bastards downtown need to go IOD the second you feel a slightly cramp in your leg. Fuck Chicago!!!!

4/24/2012 06:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Police union files lawsuit against LAPD over helmets

The union representing Los Angeles police filed a lawsuit against the department this morning, accusing the department of violating its own policies and state employment safety rules when commanders allegedly told officers not to wear protective helmets during a Jan. 10 demonstration in Westwood.

The suit filed in Los Angeles County Superior Court named Chief William J. Bratton as a co-defendant and seeks a temporary restraining order against the city from taking any measures that would discourage officers from using safety gear when dealing with crowds during protests and demonstrations.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/02/union-seeks-res.html

4/24/2012 06:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Concerned citizen here.....afraid for your safety and Chicago during the cluster f>ck. What would happen if on the day of you all happened to bring your helmet/gear with you and in the interest of personal safety "forgot" to leave them on the bus?

4/24/2012 06:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Velez had a call made just to get on the job. Merit dick. Merit sgt. Merit lt. Call made to be cmdr and now international d/c. Let him lead the nato pack wearing soft gear and let him make all the "international" decisions on Michigan Avenue. He's so fkg qualified that the dept keeps promoting him, then he should lead the troops and show us what hes got.

4/24/2012 06:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Taking into consideration that McDrunk,Kirby and Georgia's are inept & clueless,the NATO Summit will be very bloody.

4/24/2012 06:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GMAC is following the after-action report from Toronto's G8. It's on the web and is some good reading. I read it a couple of months ago. The Canadians believe the "harder" (turtle suits, helmets)the cops looked, the more violent the crowd looked. They recommend a 2-tier look. But let's also remember that they lost control quickly. They are Canadians (you know, with French ancestry). Need I say more.

4/24/2012 07:01:00 AM  
Blogger Majormarginal said...

The "soft look" style is the main reason Seattle PD lost at the WTO.

4/24/2012 07:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i wouldn't listen to them. safty first.

4/24/2012 07:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The memory of the mess in 1968 can't be forgotten. That is exactly what the people running these things would like to see happen again.

Brute force does not work in this country in these kind of situations. It always makes things worse.

I can understand the desire to go out prepared to beat heads, but that is a losing proposition. If it ever gets to a full blown mess like in 1968, it will be a another huge stain on the CPD that will take another couple of generations to remove.

This is all about perception. If Chicago is perceived as being rational about the event, Chicago wins. If Chicago (and that really means you guys) is perceived as having an out of control police force, the bad guys win big.

You just plain cannot win this kind of battle with brute force. If it gets to that, you lose and you lose big time.

Some surgical strikes here and there are OK. People can accept that. They expect that some of the protesters will get out of hand and have to be dealt with. And as long as it is done in an appropriate way, it won't amount to much to anyone.

The way I see it is you have a chance to erase some of the stain your department earned in 1968. I know that a lot of the moronic decisions that led to that mess were political, but it was not old man Daley and his cronies out there having a great old time beating heads on film. Most people just cannot get past those images. And this time, there will be 100,000 videographers. It won't be like 1968 were the press was mostly kept away from the worst of what went on. This time the whole thing will be streamed live.

Not a cop.

4/24/2012 07:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

They did the same thing a few years back. They had all the short women on Michigan Ave. on the street with no helmet. They were left on the bus a few blocks away, and told, by Maria Maher that if there was a disturbance everyone would go back and get them. All the men six feet tall and over were inside the Hyatt waiting with turtle gear.

4/24/2012 03:01:00 AM
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This is true. But there were no problems on that one. This one I fear will be violent.

4/24/2012 07:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its all about liability.Down the line the Court argument from lawyers for the protesters would be that CPD was there to go to battle instead of insure a safe environment if all the front line officers are dressed in battle gear.

4/24/2012 07:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's wait to get beat down before we put our helmets on?
I don't buy it. We always prepare for any scenario. Be ready for anything....
It has to be a rumor, right???

4/24/2012 07:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:16 AM

You are a delusional egomaniac.

Healey and Kirby are inept political hacks.

4/24/2012 07:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I got a buddy that works in county, they cancelled all their days off and vacation. Just talked to him last friday

4/24/2012 07:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First off, yes, been in a fire with 80/20s. Turns out they melt. Luckily I was wearing long underwear and they melted to that instead of my skin.

Second, if it really hits the fan, who has time to go back to a bus to get their gear?

4/24/2012 07:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The "soft" look? What fucking planet is McSwiggle residing on? These fucking asshole Anarchist are coming here to cause as much damage as they can. Why? Because they can. This is just a pass for these degenerates to have some fun. The Racoon and McSwiggle will be all nice and safe and comfty in the "bunker" while the worker ants are getting the brunt of this invasion. We are just Pawns in this game folks. In a riot things can change in seconds. Are we some kind of PR experiment wearing soft clothing to please the media. Fuck them and FUCK THE RACOON AND HIS POOL BOY MCSWIGGLE!!!

4/24/2012 07:46:00 AM  
Blogger Cuinjl50 said...

Someone get it right please, Tobias was at roll call last week in the 10th district and talked about nato, he said that the second watch most likely will be walking with protesters. But he did say uniform of the day will be regular uniform, plus gas masks and helmets, the ninja police will be close by. According to him the reason the ninja police is off to the side is because they believe that if we dress with the uniform of the day, it doesn't look like we are looking for a fight. According to him only one day is going to be cancelled which is the 20th of may. And if these mopes attempt to injure any police officers, "all bets are off" and that he will be in the front line with us. Will see if he stays true to his word.

4/24/2012 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing like making us wear every Anarchists dream souvenir. When our hats start getting snatched what are we going to do?

4/24/2012 07:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the moron who is making up Shit. I am 5'5" , female and I had on my turtle gear , I didn't stand on Michigan ave.
Yeah sure, we always line up men here and women there. You should work in the circus ,clown

4/24/2012 07:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Gen. George S. Patton from the grave said...

It's impossible to soar like an Eagle when the formation is led by a bunch of "Turkeys" !!!

4/24/2012 12:43:00 AM
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You have it all wrong. This will be a great event to show how inept CPD leadership is.

It will speak volumes as to why the whole management structure has to be taken apart and put back together again with good people leading you.

And who is this guy, Rahm? He's no Rommel. And McCarthy is no MacArthur.

My advice, let the other bastard die for his cause. Don't go into battle with a half-ass attitude because you have poor leadership or your ass will be handed to you.

Go in as the Chicago Police Department and kick ass.

I wish I was leading you. We'd arm those Blackhawks out of Midway and bring in a battalion of heavy armored Tahoes with 105MM howitzers on them.

Hell, we'd bring in a couple of squadrons of A-10s from Tucson. Why not? We'd do a Grant Park Gatling Concert.

With those A-10s, we'll make 40MM swiss cheese out of those Commie bastards.

Who's with me? And who's with Debra Kirby?

4/24/2012 07:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This isn't rocket science people, if you throw the turtles out there in full delta recon clothing you are inviting trouble. They are trying to not antagonize people into starting things. Will it work? Doubtful.

4/24/2012 08:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this "soft look" is true, where the hell is the FOP? Is this where are department has turned to, forget officer safety lets not offend the protesters! Damm we are FUCKED!

4/24/2012 08:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone know what the d-unit will be doing? So far, since being at Area North we (at least I) haven't heard a thing.

Nothing like not telling us until the last minute.

4/24/2012 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also overheard at Area North is that to get days next year you will need 24 years (maybe higher) seniority. Hello 1 & 2 furloughs again after 25+ years!!!!!

4/24/2012 08:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you really think that anyone at the "puzzle palace" is going to reveal any operational plans beforehand with some of the dopes we have on this job? Heaven forbid they have to obey an order that they don't agree with.

4/24/2012 08:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ninja police?

4/24/2012 12:38:00 AM

Go away TROLLER.

4/24/2012 08:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No problems. With Lori Healey and Debra Kirby running the show, it's going to be a cakewalk. They're the top pros in the country in crowd control strategy and defusing rioters. Bring it on!

4/24/2012 12:16:00 AM

Velez is a douche bag

4/24/2012 12:19:00 AM

The best and the brightest? The Three Chicago Crowd Control Experts; Healey, Kirby and Velez. Lord help us.

4/24/2012 08:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sheriff's Police had their training canceled and the uniforms ordered were canceled.So that probably means we'll be there

4/24/2012 08:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do luv a good cluster f*(k

4/24/2012 08:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unlike those Socialist Police in Europe, throwing a lit jar full of gasoline at me constitutes deadly force likely to cause death or great bodily to me or another. Smoke them.

4/24/2012 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Warning of race riots over a Zimmerman acquittal abuzz on Twitter

http://tinyurl.com/c8x5uq9

4/24/2012 09:03:00 AM  
Blogger 19th ward blogger said...

I was curious if you could do a post on this? Crook County Sheriff promotes internal affairs investigator with less than three years on the job.


http://19thwardpolitics.blogspot.com/

Blogger obtains evidence that alleges OPR hired investigator that failed to meet the minimum requirements set forth by Shakman and the Department....Comforting to know our lives are in the hands of guys who's resume include working at menards and baggage handling! This complaint was also forwarded to Bob Egan who did nothing according to Court Documents obtained by Blogger.. 30 other applicants from Courts and Corrections applied for this position!!!
Blogger has obtained Court Documents alleging that at least one OPR investigator did not even meet the laxed minimum hiring requirements set forth by Shakman and the department. The Cook County Sheriff's Personnel Department posted a job opportunity of Investigator 1-grade-IS2, in May of 2010. You must have at least 3 years experience in law enforcement or security fields set forth by the departments minimum requirements. Investigator Patrick Fitzgeralds start date with CCSO was 26-Nov-2007. He was promoted to Inv on 21-Nov-2010. He started the application process with only 2yrs, 6 months on the job according to the documents... Inv. Fitzgerald did not have a college degree at the time of application which is a preferred requirement.. According to Fitzgeralds public facebook page he worked at menards from 2002-2005.. Blogger told this was a political move in violation of the Shakman Decree. Also Compliance Officer Bob Egan was made aware of these serious allegations and reportedly did nothing.. 30 applicants from Courts and Corrections applied did not get this position because of the clouted Fitzgerald. They need to file a Shakman Complaint...

We will do a follow up investigation on who signed off on this promotion. And we will be furthur looking into Bob Egan.. Its obvious he is not up to the job or is covering for this administration.

From Sheriff Dart:

The Office of Professional Review is a group of highly trained criminal investigators inspectors and auditors that work within the Cook County Sheriff’s Office. The Office of Professional Review is comprised of two Branches. Those Branches are the Investigations Branch and the Integrity and Compliance Branch".

4/24/2012 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This place is in trouble with the powers we have. The whole POLICE DEPARTMENT is in trouble with no leadership or experience!

4/24/2012 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous 29 and a day said...

Theres a new rumor out that there will be no more rumors

4/24/2012 09:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

merit , merit , merit
mccarthy 's command staff 90% merit
sgt , lt and capt
gotta run

4/24/2012 09:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope no officer gets injured during this mess, but my gut feeling is that a lot will end up IOD and on the medical.

4/24/2012 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I got the soft look most of the time since I gave up taking Viagra.

4/24/2012 09:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Press #2 for Spanish said...

Carlos Velez is a helluva a good man. Be careful, turning on each other is victory for the goofs

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Signed, Carlos Velez
(AKA: LAPA Merit)

4/24/2012 09:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another non-cop here:

My wife manages a large (over 1,000,000 square feet) retail & office building on the west side of Michigan Avenue, directly across the street from the park.

Apparently, they're having all the windows on the first floor businesses boarded up, including coffee shops & convenience stores. They're also having 24 hour, armed, off-duty non-CPD cops, from May 14 - 24. They will have, at all times, one cop in the main lobby, who will be supporting the regular building security with admissions (doors will be locked beginning 5/14, and every person coming in has to show ID), a second cop in the lobby as backup, AND a cop hanging out in the loading dock area. So we’re talking 10 straight days of three cops at a time, 24/7. She said there is a total of 9 people they’ve hired.

Between the security, the cost of boarding up the building, and the extra insurance, this will cost them at least $45k (the police alone are over $25k). Not to mention, they lost a couple of tenants already this year who moved out recently bc they didn't want to be around for this, and nobody is willing to lease those spaces from them until after this shitstorm is over. So, knowing that her company is losing over $75k from this, between lost rent & the new overhead, we've already been told that we can kiss her bonus goodbye this year.

Thanks a lot, Rahm. We’re just a young couple busting our assess to make it in this city, and her bonus goes a long way. We’re actually putting off starting a family because now we don’t know what our finances will look like.

4/24/2012 09:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off
Topic: Just A FYI. Three people video tape by the security guard at Shedd aquarium. They were taking pictures of the area around the police memorial. They were young and have backpacks. Doesn't sound anything more than tourists right? Except for the fact that they then changed into an all black outfit including the mask . They were also seen taking copious notes and then stole some signs by the Shedd. Police Memorial is coning up. Is someone planning something.? Is this a test to see police response with no real consequence if they get caught ? Keep your eyes open that day.

4/24/2012 09:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are these the eye protection you were talking about? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqfOxm_1BE0

4/24/2012 09:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And trust me on this one ladies and gentlemen,The CFD is not prepared to deal with injured officer.They are spending way to mush time on how to put out fucking car fires.they have Firefighters on the front lines NOT PARAMEDICS..And the plan is to just carry you away,NO TRIAGE ,NO SPINAL IMMOBILIZATION NOTHING BUT GRAB AND GO ...I am a veteran paramedic and this plan sucks

4/24/2012 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hearts and minds...just like viet nam. In viet nam they pushed helicopters into the ocean. Maybe we can push squad cars into the lake.

4/24/2012 10:09:00 AM  
Blogger Krepke said...

Washington DC, late 1977. Shah of Iran visits the Peanut Prez. Pro Shah and anti-Shah demonstrators on the Ellipse. Park Police in between in soft hats. Predictable outcome for the police.

4/24/2012 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Soft hats in the midst of a protest? Hope each and every po that gets hurt sues,sues,sues. It's one thing to do your job with the right equipment but quite another to follow STUPID orders...first object that gets flung my way...see ya!

4/24/2012 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I work at one of the flagship banks on LaSalle, we've stockpiled pre-cut plywood for the windows that will inevitably be broken, hired three times the normal bank security, and, get this - it's casual Friday for all of NATO week.

A memo was circulated instructing most personnel to wear jeans and other casual clothes to work for that week - management is worried that people in business attire will be jumped by "protestors" when they're going to and from work.

4/24/2012 10:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I work in a high rise on LaSalle. It's perfectly normal to shelter in the building. They've always instructed us that's what'd happen.

Calm thoughts, folks.

4/24/2012 10:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Security Zones; G8/North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) Summit, Chicago, IL, 13232-13236 [2012-5330]

Cut&paste link:

http://regulations.justia.com/regulations/fedreg/2012/03/06/2012-5330.html

4/24/2012 10:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Velez was not a very good commander while in 025. He never had a staff meeting from January to September of 2010. We never had a commander who didn't tell his management team what he expected of them. He didn't understand patrol at all, probably because he never spent any time there. Obsessed about that all important issue of beat tags. The department did not, and does not bother to select the best person for the job. Until this clout promotion business is ended, which in this city isn't likely to happen, the department will continue to suffer due to poor leadership.

4/24/2012 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tobias was at rollcall this morning and said cargopants could be worn.

4/24/2012 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know boys. Eight pm, 77th and Phillips a 12 year old gets shot in the shoulder. No-one in custody. Three hours later and about 3 miles away we're arresting people in walkers that want their local health clinic to stay open which would seem like a good thing, not a bad thing. Meanwhile the shooter(s) are still on the loose. Not what I want to see my taxes paying for. Wasted resources. There's no reason to put more cops on the street if we're going to have them doing these kinds of things. Like what would the new officers do write parkers instead of working on the violence? If this is the mayors directive then we need to take away his power and speaking of taking away peoples power I haven't seen the alderman. Where are the aldermen of these communities? The elections can not come soon enough. We need to be able to recall these people like is being done in Wisconsin. This four, six year free ride stuff like they have an iron clad contract and we just deal with it has got to go. Time to make these politicians what they call in the private sector "at will" employees. Where you can be fired at any time for any reason at will.

4/24/2012 11:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just put the new 2000 young, aggressive and in shape and eager to work recruits on the front lines. Oh wait, we've only hired 50 in the past 2 years, my bad...

4/24/2012 11:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Mark12A said...

Great thinking; put the oldest and most fragile officers the department has on the front lines unequipped to do their job. This city is just begging for all hell to break loose.

Maybe that's their plan to reduce pension costs.

4/24/2012 11:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Add Velez to the list of quadruple merit promotions. Almost forgot about him. At least he's smart enough to fly under the radar.

4/24/2012 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If bosses are worried about Cargo Pants with the city about to burn, they have achieved a new level of stupidity.

4/24/2012 11:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We will be filming? I hope someone in intelligence will be stepping up because they "trained" ets (ie showed them the cameras) but haven't provided any gear or the 1/3/5 day training.

4/24/2012 11:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this can't be true. this is an obvious grievance of officer safety. any wise officer will do what's best for themself if they are required to be downtown. fuck all the bullshit from 35th because there's clearly no tactical organized planning going on over there. be safe to all those who are going downtown. just learn to articulate why you were going against a direct order. simply because "i want my fellow officers and myself to be safe".

4/24/2012 11:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Velez, a Reyes hack.

4/24/2012 11:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like it could be true, fucked up, but true.

I guess we have to kiss everyone's ass.

4/24/2012 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And just where are the two McTutu's going to be during all of this? In an armored tank? I can't see how we will get through this fiasco without a huge number of IOD's. What if a huge number get hurt on the first day? Then what???? If you do end up IOD, DOCUMENT everything. Everything that happened, is said to you, etc. It will come in handy when you are sued for the bills the city doesn't pay.

And last but not least, fuck the brass on this job. All of them.

4/24/2012 11:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Screw that guy. He's a nobody who got promoted unfairly.

4/24/2012 12:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) And again why even give a test? Just like the chicagomerit way, another place, guess eric holder is not busy with selling guns! President Romney cannot come soon enough!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/23/us-usa-florida-firefighters-idUSBRE83M1KQ20120423

4/24/2012 12:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Somebody should send a copy of this to Mythbusters. Those know it all twinks have declared that this is a busted myth...

4/24/2012 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

british royal marine commandos will be in crowd to protect their reps in soft clothes, never play with a royal marine, i mean NEVER, saw what they can do in Hong Kong.

4/24/2012 12:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The hard core anarchists are like Klingons, they view civility as weakness and will exploit it.

It seems like we are not only expendable, but hated by the Mayor and the Supe.

Feel free to reply to this Garry (preferably after you have had some pop)

4/24/2012 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are those people who work compstat on the 2nd watch such as Lt K.M. and Sgt K.C. going to be out there on the front lines. All B.S. and lets just start calling it what it really is!

4/24/2012 12:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope this place burns, but everyone--just protect everyone else, have their back-Lord knows the bosses don't.

4/24/2012 12:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey guys, in the last couple of protests I was involved in(wis state capitol), we did the soft/hard thing. It works well to keep the crowd from getting worked up. With the NATO protestors though, I don't know it its going to work for you, I think they are looking for a fight.

4/24/2012 12:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why am I supposed to feel sorry for Velez? The man is full of shit. When he was in 025 all he cared about was good numbers. Then the officers that were supplied him with good numbers could not even get an extension for a furlogh. What an asshole. No I don't feel sorry for Velez a guy who has never earned anything in this department.

4/24/2012 12:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Use of force should decide if we put on the helmets or not. We never go on patrol without weapons, so why leave the helmet in the bus. I would never leave my gun or asp in the bus! The helmet needs to be accessible just like all of our equipment. It isn't a safe option.

Unfortunately, we can't just hope that we are not going to use the helmets. We have to be realistic & have the option to use all of our gear/weapons.

4/24/2012 12:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We got nothing!

4/24/2012 01:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I already called my Attorney and gave him the heads up about lack of proper riot equipment and only 8 hours of marching formation training.

Also gave him the name of Deb Kirby, Lori Healy, Gary McCarthy and anyone who give the order not to wear a helmet or to leave it in the bus a few blocks away.

4/24/2012 01:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WAAAAAAY off topic, but 3 Bulls Championship Rings founding storage locker which belonged to John Stroger. The purchaser bought the locker at an auction for $250.00.

Those rings are usually worth thousands. Hey Toddler, you fucked up. AGAIN

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=8633780

4/24/2012 01:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your Cell phone and Blackberry will NOT work

4/24/2012 02:02:00 PM  
Anonymous mission scum said...

This was a plan implemented during the war protests and the idea was to put the "height impaired" Officers on front line in standard uniform of the day. This was to "feel out" the mood of the marchers and be "media friendly" and if the crowd got in any way hostile, the Officers were to step back and reveal th"Goon Squad" who were by all media and protester accounts, INTIMIDATING!....it worked great and the biggest complaints, were that the Police were on overkill with that prescence....Yes, I am a proud member of "HIPA" (height impaired Police assoc.)and approve of that method again, as I have every bit of trust in my fellow Officers to respond with force necessary to assure our safety. But then again, this was with adequate training, prior to the event.

4/24/2012 02:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leave you cell phone at home they won't be working The Claim will be over use of the system jamming all calls
Wink Wink

4/24/2012 02:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Truly the saddest thing I've ever read on SCC.
I'm at a loss to find more virulent words than the " normal " ones to describe Chicago's politicians who care more about " appearance " than the safety of CPD!
If true, this is the most reprehensible, despicable and foul order ever to be given.
Sleep well Rahm & McCarthy.

4/24/2012 02:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

all that shit talking about Velez, but all of you assholes would do the same if in the same boat. So shut the fuck up and do your job!!

4/24/2012 02:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like the 80's, when the Black or African Americans( I forgot what the Rev Jackson said was the term of the day), the Nazi Party and the JDL had a get together at Marquette Park. The only people in soft hats were the Police. All the picnicers were in riot gear. So history is repeating itself, only in a much bigger way. Maybe someone should ask Hillar-Heintze Security what to do. They seem to be in charge.

4/24/2012 03:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alderman Zalewski 23rd Ward City Hall suckhole voted for Emanuel's trust me building program. Let's see Tollway:yes Meters:yes Olympics:yes Schoolzone Cameras:yes. This clown should stick to Archer Avenue parades because he blows with voting for his constituants wishes.When was the last time he contacted anyone for an opinion. (Besides City Hall Insiders)

4/24/2012 03:05:00 PM  
Anonymous McPhallus said...

"Soft look" indeed...

4/24/2012 03:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our periodic fire drills at work always have the spiel about sheltering in place. It became a big thing after 9/11 (which is exactly why I'm sheltering at home if this comes up). I don't think there's anything there.

4/24/2012 03:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT.

SCC,

Any thoughts of a thread for the details of Quinn's proposed pension reform and another thread for Dan Webb being appointed as the special prosecutor in the Koschman case? Just a thought.

And thanks for all you do and the lights you shine.

4/24/2012 03:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wear the mask you dont have

4/24/2012 04:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This department is so ass backwards its pathetic.
At the 2nd day of training for the 2 nd watch personell the " instructors" told us to make sure we loaded up our cargo pants with water bottles and granola bars.
Now this fucked up dept. says no cargo pants and instead of the baseball style hat only the old fashioned crown cap with actual shields attached. Are u fucking kidding me?
You're going to send us up against a very unruly crowd with those old fashioned hats that are quite easy to knock off ones head? You won't allow cargo pants so we can carry water and nourishment? Well go fuck yourselves I'm going IOD on the first bus ride down there. Obviously the department isn't looking out for us so we've all got to take care of number one.

4/24/2012 04:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The media needs to get ahold of this information and start asking questions on our behalf...er wait most of the media are in Rahms pocket.

4/24/2012 04:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Memory Lane
In 1969 for the Days of Rage the uniform of the day was blouse,soft cap, and white gloves (the dress uniform). A company of older guys from Loop Traffic were the lead unit with the marchers. When it hit the fan, the Loop Traffic company took a lot of casualties. Hidden away from the march were companies of Task Force and the districts. They leveled the goofs. AFter all the whinning and crying about the Convention in 1968, the bosses wanted to make sure the goofs started the trouble and that some officers were injured. There have been numerous incidents since when this tactical theory has been used. One of the brilliant bosses or someone from the fifth floor decides to put guys out there looking like Simple Simon so they can have a body count to explain their subsequent actions. Things haven't changed.

4/24/2012 04:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The way I see it is you have a chance to erase some of the stain your department earned in 1968. I know that a lot of the moronic decisions that led to that mess were political, but it was not old man Daley and his cronies out there having a great old time beating heads on film. Most people just cannot get past those images. And this time, there will be 100,000 videographers. It won't be like 1968 were the press was mostly kept away from the worst of what went on. This time the whole thing will be streamed live.

Not a cop.


Let me clue you in, dipshit. We are the police. We lose in every situation no matter what. This is not news to us. You are not the shining beacon of intellectualism you think you are. Join me on the wall, or shut the fuck up. No? Alright, go back to your sociological theories in the safety of the coffeeshop.

4/24/2012 04:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here are the 'Chicago Principles' as posted on the Occupy Rockford website: Read carefully:

• Our solidarity will be based on respect for a political diversity within the struggle for social, economic and
environmental justice. As individuals and groups, we may choose to engage in a diversity of tactics and plans of
action but are committed to treating each other with respect and working towards a common goal of peace and
justice.
• As we plan our actions and tactics, we will take care to maintain appropriate separations of time and space
between divergent tactics.
• We oppose any state repression of dissent, including surveillance, infiltration, disruption, limiting our action
to “free speech zones,” and violence, or attempts to divide our movement through the conscious creation of
divisions regarding tactics, organization, strategies, and alliances.
• Any debates or criticisms will stay internal to the movement, avoiding any public or media denunciations of
fellow activists and events.

4/24/2012 05:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But let's also remember that they lost control quickly. They are Canadians (you know, with French ancestry). Need I say more.

4/24/2012 07:01:00 AM

Other than you're a moron?

4/24/2012 05:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why don't we just wear clown suits, and carry water-squirting flowers in our pocket? And instead of guns, we'll carry water pistols to tickle them with. And we'll hand out daisies to them along with granola bars??? WTF!

4/24/2012 05:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
hearts and minds...just like viet nam. In viet nam they pushed helicopters into the ocean. Maybe we can push squad cars into the lake.

4/24/2012 10:09:00 AM

Let's stuff as many protesters as we can into them first!

4/24/2012 05:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've seen people on this job who look like they're in their 70's. Why don't we put all of those people on the front lines? Then the poor protesters won't have to be scared. This is going to be one giant cluster.

I'm putting a note in my pocket of who is to be contacted in case I'm badly injured. Along with a note to keep the ballerina and McSwizzle the fuck away from me!

4/24/2012 05:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alderman Zalewski 23rd Ward City Hall suckhole voted for Emanuel's trust me building program. Let's see Tollway:yes Meters:yes Olympics:yes Schoolzone Cameras:yes. This clown should stick to Archer Avenue parades because he blows with voting for his constituants wishes.When was the last time he contacted anyone for an opinion. (Besides City Hall Insiders)

---------

Is that you Chuck? Had you actually campaigned you might have won! You actually stole votes from Goral?

The Zalewski Zombies could care less.

4/24/2012 05:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As far as I know most of the Tact guys will not be on the front lines. The city is too rent vans (think along the lines of a Chevy Express) and have tact teams "roving." Looking for "hot spots."

Again like everything else, only rumor.

4/24/2012 05:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please use common sense and be careful and prepared -we are all adults with a good amount of police experience. Meet force with appropriate force-enough said.

I would be remiss, however, if i didnt comment on how terrible a boss Velez is. Merit promoted through ALL RANKS. Incompetent and taken care of is an understatement! Even your friends know the truth Carlos. And thankfully, deep down inside, you do too. Nothing ever earned, all given. How truly sad and demoralizing.

4/24/2012 05:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Theres a new rumor out that there will be no more rumors"

You can take THAT to the bank!

4/24/2012 05:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I work at one of the flagship banks on LaSalle, we've stockpiled pre-cut plywood for the windows that will inevitably be broken, hired three times the normal bank security, and, get this - it's casual Friday for all of NATO week.

A memo was circulated instructing most personnel to wear jeans and other casual clothes to work for that week - management is worried that people in business attire will be jumped by "protestors" when they're going to and from work.

4/24/2012 10:34:00 AM
==
It sounds like YOUR employer cares about you and is also being proactive. Unlike the CPD.

4/24/2012 05:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Security Zones; G8/North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) Summit, Chicago, IL, 13232-13236 [2012-5330]

Cut&paste link:

http://regulations.justia.com/regulations/fedreg/2012/03/06/2012-5330.html"


Don't waste a lot of time reading this unless you come & go to work via boat.

These security zones are those requested by the Coast Guard.

4/24/2012 05:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love it there is Hillard and his partner from Secret Service telling the business people at a NATO meeting that all is well and Deb has CPD in control.

Keep drinking the Kool Aid

4/24/2012 06:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Merit Nominations for Lieutenant was just issued, then cancelled and again issued.

4/24/2012 06:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PLEASE CONFIRM THIS, I need to start my grievance that the dept will not allow me to be safe. FUCK RUMORS this needs to be addressed for safety of officers.
btw what the hell are they going to do? Send me home? FINE!!! If inspectors are there writing people up I have a whole ton of fine things to say to them as well.

4/24/2012 06:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone posted that the British Royal Marines will be there protecting English dignitaries, those soldiers are crazy and extremely well trained. Can not wait to see some idiot screw with them.

4/24/2012 06:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My job be damned Im gonna take someone out if they wanna bring it.

4/24/2012 06:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will let them tear this town apart!

I ain't stopping no one nor will allow myself to get hurt!

4/24/2012 06:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Feds Reveal Security Perimeter For NATO Summit

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/04/24/feds-announce-security-perimeter-for-nato-summit/

4/24/2012 06:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go away TROLLER.

Now is that any way to talk to your father?

4/24/2012 06:39:00 PM  
Anonymous LIFELONG CHICAGOAN said...

Whoever came up with the brainstorm to bring this (lusterfu(k to Chicago should be hung. Just let us live our lives in peace.

4/24/2012 06:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The way I see it is you have a chance to erase some of the stain your department earned in 1968. I know that a lot of the moronic decisions that led to that mess were political, but it was not old man Daley and his cronies out there having a great old time beating heads on film. Most people just cannot get past those images. And this time, there will be 100,000 videographers. It won't be like 1968 were the press was mostly kept away from the worst of what went on. This time the whole thing will be streamed live.

Not a cop.

Like anyone else, if you come to our city and act like you have sense. The police will treat you like a human. Come here start a fight with the police and expect us to defend ourselves! At what point do you think we will take shit from you and bow down? Attack us and 68 will look like a Disney movie!
I AM A COP!!!!!!!!!

4/24/2012 06:46:00 PM  
Blogger The Town Crier said...

What is this 1968 stain on the dept crap? Most coppers on the job weren't even born yet.

4/24/2012 06:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The way I see it is you have a chance to erase some of the stain your department earned in 1968. I know that a lot of the moronic decisions that led to that mess were political, but it was not old man Daley and his cronies out there having a great old time beating heads on film. Most people just cannot get past those images. And this time, there will be 100,000 videographers. It won't be like 1968 were the press was mostly kept away from the worst of what went on. This time the whole thing will be streamed live.

Not a cop.


Let me clue you in, dipshit. We are the police. We lose in every situation no matter what. This is not news to us. You are not the shining beacon of intellectualism you think you are. Join me on the wall, or shut the fuck up. No? Alright, go back to your sociological theories in the safety of the coffeeshop.

4/24/2012 04:48:00 PM
==
"the stain your department earned in 1968"

What an interesting turn of a phrase. You DO know, forty-four years ago, the protesters deliberately incited a riot, right?

You DO know they plotted and carried out an intentional series of actions against the police?

A great old time beating heads? HOW DARE YOU?

Many of those police officers were newly returned VietNam vets. Urine and feces were flung on them in plastic bags meant to break and in open containers. They were not simply taunted, but physically battered and then intentionally humiliated. They were ambushed and drawn away from their group, so as to be more easily attacked.

They were not the aggressors, but let's not let that little detail intrude on your lovely little fantasy of cops gone wild.

One photo, of an officer with a nightstick raised above his head, caused two generations of political correctness and fear of the 'picture you can't erase from your mind' and it has unfortunately colored police behavior from that day until the present. The headline read, "The Whole World is Watching". (So much for your assertion that the press was sequestered. I clearly recall that the press were mingling with the crowd.)

Nowadays, everyone operates in fear of the video, or the photograph, that will wrongly convey a moment in time, without conveying the entire CONTEXT of what surrounds that moment. The context, FORTY-FOUR years ago, was that the expectation of violence from the crowd was PALPABLE. (I can speak to this because I was IN that crowd and I left before all hell broke loose because I feared my father's wrath far more than the CPD's.) It was obvious my fellow teens and twenty-somethings were poking and prodding and planning and plotting and it was obvious there was going to be a confrontation of SOME sort, because the kids were determined to make one happen. It was tangible, laying there on the air. It was a 'showdown' mentality in the crowd.

I have since done an entire career on the police department and retired. I have worked with - and for - many officers who were in Grant Park and on Michigan Avenue during that mess. None of them were happy head-beaters. None of them went to work those days looking to beat on someone. They were young men who just wanted to go home to their families and their lives at the end of their tours of duty.

You are, by your own proud tagline, not a cop, and you can't begin to know what you're talking about. By your twisted reasoning, the current CPD having to answer for a questionable incident that occurred a lifetime ago is equivalent to YOU (since you're a Chicagoan) having to answer for and make amends for the activities of Al Capone. It's incumbent upon YOU to find a way to rectify THAT stain YOUR city earned back in the day - right? You're as responsible for it as we are for 1968, right?

I've read your posts in the past with an open mind, but I think I have a much better read on who you really are now. You've shown your hand and your Freudian slip is showing, too. I'm with 4:48pm on this one.

4/24/2012 07:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All I know is I will be out of town for a week over this time period. I have been through my share of these demonstations or riots and now that I am retired, i wish all of you good luck and protect the officer next to you. These egg heads, professors and students and bomb throwers who really think that they have all of the answers just can't wait to cause some trouble and then vote for Obama.

4/24/2012 07:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The way I see it is you have a chance to erase some of the stain your department earned in 1968. I know that a lot of the moronic decisions that led to that mess were political, but it was not old man Daley and his cronies out there having a great old time beating heads on film. Most people just cannot get past those images. And this time, there will be 100,000 videographers. It won't be like 1968 were the press was mostly kept away from the worst of what went on. This time the whole thing will be streamed live.

Not a cop.


Let me clue you in, dipshit. We are the police. We lose in every situation no matter what. This is not news to us. You are not the shining beacon of intellectualism you think you are. Join me on the wall, or shut the fuck up. No? Alright, go back to your sociological theories in the safety of the coffeeshop.

4/24/2012 04:48:00 PM

well said by 4:48 pm.....to those who "can't get the 1968 images out of their heads"....well, in 1968, many of the protestors were about 18-25 years of age (guessing?), which makes those same folks now..about 63 to 70 years of age (?)...so....this generation of protestors are malcontents, public dole leeches, professional protestors, communists, socialists, etc.,; so....you will get the police you deserve.....

4/24/2012 07:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again can someone explain to me why we are hosting this vile Cluterfuck here in Chicago.

4/24/2012 07:47:00 PM  
Blogger knottheadquarters said...

"grab and go" removal of downed officers by fire personel is a standard method of tactical medicine. The idea is to remove the officer from danger to keep that officer from further harm. Only massive bleeding is dealth with. Usually by military touniquet. The officer is moved to cover and then more thorough treatment begins followed by rapid transport.same as in the military. Fire Lieutenant/paramedic with SWAT medic training. Best of luck to all our brothers and sisters of the CPD.

4/24/2012 08:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was a young patrolman in 1968. The same complaints about the bosses existed then. The difference was those guys had been at Iwo Jima, Omaha Beach, the Pusan Perimeter, etc. When it jumped off, most of the bosses were right in the thick of it. The Deputy Superintendent of Field Services, was swinging lead club on Michigan Avenue. It was the same all up and down the line. Sergeants and lieutenants involved in fist fights and leading the charge. Everyone knew in advance what was going to happen and we dressed accordingly. A bunch of people came looking for a fight, they got it, and they lost. Any other version of it is revisionism.
Lots of the bosses were political appointees, but most of those WWII and Korean War guys were tough and looked out for their troops. It doesn't sound like that's the case today.

4/24/2012 08:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dc d alexander came to our roll call. He said cargo pants will be allowed

4/24/2012 08:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Alderman Zalewski 23rd Ward City Hall suckhole voted for Emanuel's trust me building program. Let's see Tollway:yes Meters:yes Olympics:yes Schoolzone Cameras:yes. This clown should stick to Archer Avenue parades because he blows with voting for his constituants wishes.When was the last time he contacted anyone for an opinion. (Besides City Hall Insiders)

4/24/2012 03:05:00 PM

Lets talk about mike the drunk!

1) Got the gangbangers house at 52 and normandy real nice handicapped parking signs, you know the assholes who threatened a copper along with the merit captain the "mexican"pos.

2) The guy who got his daughter in law a job with quinn paying $120,000 to start.

3) The coward who sold out the residents of the 23rd ward by making al caccitolo stop his campaign for a state rep spot

4) The coward who let the 23rd ward be split and cut like a mad butcher did it.

5) So glad i will be in a real mans ward "Ed Burke," maybe a crook, but at least he is not a coward!

4/24/2012 08:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Hey CUBS FANS Detectives in the district are going to supplement patrol during nato in beat cars. FOR SURE came right from the horses Ass only makes sense.

Count on it..........

4/24/2012 08:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The way I see it is you have a chance to erase some of the stain your department earned in 1968. I know that a lot of the moronic decisions that led to that mess were political, but it was not old man Daley and his cronies out there having a great old time beating heads on film. Most people just cannot get past those images. And this time, there will be 100,000 videographers. It won't be like 1968 were the press was mostly kept away from the worst of what went on. This time the whole thing will be streamed live.

Not a cop

You are an egghead. What do you know about 1968 other then what you read or saw in a few news clips ? I bet you are going to be one of these eggheads who likes to throw rocks or smash windows or throw firebombs or burn cars and hides his/her identity with a mask. If you had so much knowledge and such courage then don't cover your face so the police can come and get you and throw your ignorant ass in the lock-up. Belive me, no on in 1968 had a grand old time beating heads. I would be willing to bet your father was at the 68 convention and was hit in the head before he conceived your retarded ass.

4/24/2012 08:27:00 PM  
Anonymous FOP UPDATE said...

FROM FOP:

NATO Summit Information

April 24, 2012

The Lodge has met with members of the Department’s International Relations Section to discuss the Department’s plans for the upcoming NATO Summit scheduled for May 20 and May 21, 2012.

The key focus of the meeting was to discuss the logistics of Officer safety issues. The Department presented several examples of what will occur should an Officer’s safety be compromised. The International Relations Section Command Staff are currently making presentations to roll calls throughout the Department where they will answer questions presented to them. Members may contact the IRS directly with specific questions. Members may contact the Lodge if they believe the answer given is unsatisfactory. We will then attempt to resolve the issue.

Officers should be aware that disclosure of specific plans and/or safety techniques that may be implemented should not be divulged in any media outlet including social media outlets such as blogs, Facebook, etc. Disclosure of sensitive information could place any Police Officer assigned to this Summit at risk.

4/24/2012 08:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The way I see it is you have a chance to erase some of the stain your department earned in 1968. I know that a lot of the moronic decisions that led to that mess were political, but it was not old man Daley and his cronies out there having a great old time beating heads on film. Most people just cannot get past those images. And this time, there will be 100,000 videographers. It won't be like 1968 were the press was mostly kept away from the worst of what went on. This time the whole thing will be streamed live.

Do you know how many officers were injured during those fucking riots?? Maybe somebody who worked them can chime in! No fucking mention of that from the libtard fucking media!! Get a clue and believe the media in Chicago is there to create public outcry and CPD is used for a scapegoat for the mayor when politically feasible! AND IT WILL ALWAYS BE THAT WAY! You cant always believe what the media publishes, but people do because they love to hate the police in this city! Why?? Because everyone in Chicago is inocent and nobody deserves to be arrested! Right??

4/24/2012 08:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

british royal marine commandos will be in crowd to protect their reps in soft clothes, never play with a royal marine, i mean NEVER, saw what they can do in Hong Kong.

4/24/2012 12:21:00 PM

Man, I want the Brits to bring some Gurkhas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigade_of_Gurkhas

I served in the Gulf War, didn't see any combat, and I ran into some of these guys. Their average height was probably around 5'7" and pound for pound they were likely the scariest guys in the coalition.

During the Falklands War the Brits spread rumors and used psyops to make the Argentinian soldiers believe the Gurkhas were everywhere. Helped speed up the surrender process. I can't find a reference, but I suspect they did the same thing during Desert Storm.

Get a few Gurkhas standing on corners with their long Kukri knives and I imagine the protests will be peaceful. If not then some protesters will be missing ears.

4/24/2012 09:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I concur regarding Zalewski. He turned out to be a piece of garbage and as you stated a suckhole.

4/24/2012 09:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say let's put the mayor, governor and all the aldermen in the front line so they can take the first shot (literally). I can not believe they are putting all lives at risk especially most police officers. How much more can you (policemen/women) take - WALK out now and take a stand against this prejudice - then let's see what our government will do. To hell with all of them. Be safe and RUN the other way.

4/24/2012 09:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

citizen here.. I feel really bad for all of you... you are being fed to the lions.. apparently no one in management or higher can read or they would have scanned the websites of those that are going to show and WHAT they have in mind.. dressing SOFT will mean NOTHING.. they DON'T think of you as one of them..to them YOU are the enemy .. their purpose is NOT to PROTEST but to DESTROY.. and while all the police are trying to make sure they don't burn down the loop the poor people in neighborhoods are left to their own devices.. Punks in those area's are going to have a field day.. knowing the Police are busy.. so not only is are the Politicians putting the Police out to dry they are doing the same for the citizens..what we can do is pray for is bad weather which may discourage many of them to not show.. I have family members in the city not far from the loop..I have opened my house to them so they can get out of the city.. looks like I will have a lot of company in MAY..

4/24/2012 09:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Forget the FOP, if you get injured because lack of training or equiptment issues get a personal attorney and sue. Name the bosses involved and the city. That's my exact plan.

4/24/2012 10:16:00 PM  
Blogger The Town Crier said...

Another non-cop here:

My wife manages a large (over 1,000,000 square feet) retail & office building on the west side of Michigan Avenue, directly across the street from the park.

Apparently, they're having all the windows on the first floor businesses boarded up, including coffee shops & convenience stores. They're also having 24 hour, armed, off-duty non-CPD cops, from May 14 - 24. They will have, at all times, one cop in the main lobby, who will be supporting the regular building security with admissions (doors will be locked beginning 5/14, and every person coming in has to show ID), a second cop in the lobby as backup, AND a cop hanging out in the loading dock area. So we’re talking 10 straight days of three cops at a time, 24/7. She said there is a total of 9 people they’ve hired.

Between the security, the cost of boarding up the building, and the extra insurance, this will cost them at least $45k (the police alone are over $25k). Not to mention, they lost a couple of tenants already this year who moved out recently bc they didn't want to be around for this, and nobody is willing to lease those spaces from them until after this shitstorm is over. So, knowing that her company is losing over $75k from this, between lost rent & the new overhead, we've already been told that we can kiss her bonus goodbye this year.

Thanks a lot, Rahm. We’re just a young couple busting our assess to make it in this city, and her bonus goes a long way. We’re actually putting off starting a family because now we don’t know what our finances will look like.

4/24/2012 09:38:00 AM

Rahm does not care about the "little people", in fact, if your not a millionaire he has nothing but contempt for you. Even if you are a millionaire, your life means nothing to him unless your money & influence are used to advance his goals.

4/24/2012 10:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Alderman Zalewski 23rd Ward City Hall suckhole voted for Emanuel's trust me building program. Let's see Tollway:yes Meters:yes Olympics:yes Schoolzone Cameras:yes. This clown should stick to Archer Avenue parades because he blows with voting for his constituants wishes.When was the last time he contacted anyone for an opinion. (Besides City Hall Insiders)

4/24/2012 03:05:00 PM

i ran into the alderman the other night at a casino and he was yelling at the cocktail waitress to hurry up.

4/24/2012 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Warning of race riots over a Zimmerman acquittal abuzz on Twitter

http://tinyurl.com/c8x5uq9

4/24/2012 09:03:00 AM

M1's vs. M4's ???

4/24/2012 10:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heard today that the City is livid with the Lts union. The Union reminded the City that they can not detail Lts out of their area without paying them time and a half all day plus OT. City called bullshit and union put it on the table. City threw a shitfit and said screw it, they will do with only the tact and area team Lts. and not pay premium to the other Lts. One more screw up by the City///.

4/24/2012 10:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give me one of those REDMAN gear batons too, so no one gets hurt!

4/24/2012 10:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i requested a new filter cartridge for my gas mask once i noticed that it has past the experation date. i was told i could not have a replacement filter because the expired one was still in it's original wrapper and considered still good. so much for the experation date?

4/24/2012 11:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RE: To the moron who is making up Shit. I am 5'5" , female and I had on my turtle gear , I didn't stand on Michigan ave.
Yeah sure, we always line up men here and women there. You should work in the circus ,clown

You are the moron!!! I am a 5'3" female and DID stand the Michigan Detail during this protest!! Get your facts straight before you post, CLOWN

4/24/2012 11:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They will probally start throwing Shit as early as Sunday 6 May 2012.

4/24/2012 11:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know what the d-unit will be doing? So far, since being at Area North we (at least I) haven't heard a thing.

Nothing like not telling us until the last minute.

4/24/2012 08:09:00 AM

So the details can end up on here? It's sad, but true.

4/24/2012 11:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Add Velez to the list of quadruple merit promotions. Almost forgot about him. At least he's smart enough to fly under the radar.

4/24/2012 11:20:00 AM

That's not true....he's just not tall enough to show up on radar. He's not smart enough to do anyting.

4/25/2012 12:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

all that shit talking about Velez, but all of you assholes would do the same if in the same boat. So shut the fuck up and do your job!!


First off, none of us assholes are in the same boat as Velez because we don't have Victor Reyes to demand the department bypass test lists and promote us.

Second, I think the department should put the shortest department members on the front lines. The supt could be first since he's 5-10 and Velez could be second since he's 5-5.

4/25/2012 12:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im a 5 foot, 95 lb female on this job. I'm not afraid to do my job!

4/24/2012 08:50:00 AM

If you're off probation, you ain't 95lbs. Who you kidding?

4/25/2012 12:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So if I show in cargo pants does that mean they'll send me home?

4/25/2012 01:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So as I'm reading, I had to pause a couple times waiting for the punch line of: so a bunch of coppers started raising their hands telling the commander what a bad idea they thought this was, or a bunch of people started asking hard questions, and the commander had to storm out of roll call embarrassed and ashamed of himself. Wake the fuck up people, you better start sticking up for yourselves to these bosses and stop being such chicken shit yes men! What ever punishment you think will happen to you for sticking up for yourself and your coworkers IS ALREADY Happening!

4/25/2012 01:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aviation (doa)ofcs also had days off and vac canceled!

4/25/2012 01:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
all that shit talking about Velez, but all of you assholes would do the same if in the same boat. So shut the fuck up and do your job!!

4/24/2012 02:57:00 PM

Holy Jeez Mrs Velez ,Maybe you should switch to decaf & lose the potty mouth, I'm just sayn...

4/25/2012 02:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I suggest simply removing all police officers from the downtown area. Remove the single most visible source of antagonism and I will guess that there will be no fights with police or attacks on police if there is simply no police. Put Traffic Management Aids down there to wave their arms all around like they do.

Chicago can be the first city to totally diffuse fights with police by removing all police. If they have no one to throw piss on what will they do then?

4/24/2012 06:09:00 AM

finally someone gets it

4/25/2012 02:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Chalkie said...

I am itchin".... Quit your bitchin'!!!!

4/25/2012 02:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Tobias was at rollcall this morning and said cargopants could be worn.

4/24/2012 10:58:00 AM


Great, like I would pay any attention to what he says.

4/25/2012 06:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me clue you in, dipshit. We are the police. We lose in every situation no matter what. This is not news to us. You are not the shining beacon of intellectualism you think you are. Join me on the wall, or shut the fuck up. No? Alright, go back to your sociological theories in the safety of the coffeeshop.
=======================
There are plenty of police departments that have managed to regain the publics trust after falling by the wayside. LAPD being the most prominent recent example. It is mostly a political problem though. You are probably right about continuing to be on the losing side, at least as long as the current criminal empire continues to run the city. You can't really work for a criminal empire like that and not end up getting some tarnish from it. Just the way it is.

4/25/2012 06:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The way I see it is you have a chance to erase some of the stain your department earned in 1968. I know that a lot of the moronic decisions that led to that mess were political, but it was not old man Daley and his cronies out there having a great old time beating heads on film. Most people just cannot get past those images. And this time, there will be 100,000 videographers. It won't be like 1968 were the press was mostly kept away from the worst of what went on. This time the whole thing will be streamed live.

Not a cop.
---


A stain on the department?

Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that if the Chicago Police Department lasts for a thousand years, men will still say, 'This was their finest hour.'

Summer, 1968

4/25/2012 06:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No face shields because the order for the new sheilds could not fulfilled. Anyone gets hurt, need too after Rham and GMAc and the city of Chicago in civil proceedings, and punitive damages.

4/25/2012 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't wait for NATO so the media pimps will have something other than the dead thug Trayvon Martin or ghetto queen Jennifer Hudson to report on.

4/25/2012 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please , start identifying our command staff as
merit political appointed sgt, lt , capt , xo , commander , deputy

4/25/2012 10:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys sound like a bunch a scared cats. Im a 5 foot, 295 lb female on this job. I'm not afraid to watch you do my job!

4/24/2012 08:50:00 AM

There we go, that's more like it....

4/25/2012 10:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If it makes you feel any better, ZERO training or gear in my suburban dept.
It's almost as F%^$ed up out here.

Thank God none of these anarchy assholes can ride Metra or CTA, or walk out of the city limits. We couldn't handle a crowd of 20 blac bloc idiots.

4/25/2012 10:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"M1's vs. M4's ???"


Did somebody say M-4's???


Chalkie

4/25/2012 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can we have the 50 alderman on the front lines in soft gear?

4/25/2012 11:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, knowing that her company is losing over $75k from this, between lost rent & the new overhead, we've already been told that we can kiss her bonus goodbye this year.

--------
If the retail space is that big, $75K should only be a drop in the bucket to them.

4/25/2012 12:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Big Al (not a cop) said...

suggest simply removing all police officers from the downtown area

I couldn't agree more, and have been saying this for months. The protestors for some reason believe that the police are the embodiment of all their frustrations, which couldn't be further from the truth. you guys just want to do your jobs & go home to your families, like most Americans.

Also, what if the media didn't show up? They wouldn't know what to do with themselves. I have a friend in Toronto media, he told me that when they hosted the G8, the protestors would just sit around kst of the time, doing nothing. It was only when the cameras were turned on & towers them, that anything happened.

4/25/2012 12:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nuh uh. My sources tell me there will be no feces throwing until at least May 8th. Dummy.

Anonymous said...

They will probally start throwing Shit as early as Sunday 6 May 2012.

4/24/2012 11:38:00 PM

4/25/2012 12:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

08:07 You are 100% right. All the bosses were out there and did the job. Not only the bosses but Richard Elrod, the City Corporation Counsel was out there and was paralyzed when he tackled a demonstator. It was when the "weathermen" were acting like fools. Heres the head of the Corporation Counsels Office taking an active part
He is now a judge

4/25/2012 01:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

08;04 There were alot of officers injured in the 68 convention, it wasnt a one sided battle. I was there and can tell you that They formed skirmish lines and had weapons, some with baseball bats with nails in them There actually is a list or document going around the internet with the names of each officer injured and their injury
It was Gov Walker who said it was a police riot.
Ive been waiting over 40 years to have that changed and have hope history would rewrite itself as to what actually happened.
At the time the citizens of Chicago were happy how the CPD acted buring the convention, Humboldt Park riots, MLK riots and a few other
Most never thought the CPD was tarnished only the liberals and the media

4/25/2012 02:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On Saturday, October 11, Weatherman attempted to regroup and reignite the revolution. About 300 protesters marched swiftly through The Loop, Chicago's main business district, watched over by a double-line of heavily armed police. Led by Jacobs and other Weatherman members, the protesters suddenly broke through the police lines and rampaged through the Loop, smashing windows of cars and stores. But the police were ready, and quickly sealed off the protesters. Within 15 minutes, more than half the crowd had been arrested—one of the first, again, being Jacobs.[13][14][15][18]

Richard Elrod, a city attorney, was paralyzed after he attempted to tackle Weatherman member Brian Flanagan. Elrod accused Flanagan of attacking him, while Flanagan maintained that Elrod simply hit a concrete wall. Flanagan was charged with attempted murder and other crimes but was acquitted on all counts.[19] The Weathermen later produced a song mocking Elrod, a parody of Bob Dylan's "Lay Lady Lay," including the lines Lay, Elrod, lay || Lay in the street for a while || Stay, Elrod, stay || Stay in your bed for a while ."

4/25/2012 02:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

+kids , read about the riots that the CPD handled in 1969 that is never brought up in addition to the MLK riots and the convention
Then quit your bitching and acting like pussies
These were handled and no one complained, they just did their jobs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_Rage

4/25/2012 02:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So when the shit hits the fan are you suppose to call time out and run back to the bus to grab all your helmet ????

4/25/2012 04:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm glad everyone else took a turn at calling out "not a cop" on his bullshit.

Not a civilian

4/25/2012 04:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Alderman Zalewski 23rd Ward City Hall suckhole voted for Emanuel's trust me building program. Let's see Tollway:yes Meters:yes Olympics:yes Schoolzone Cameras:yes. This clown should stick to Archer Avenue parades because he blows with voting for his constituants wishes.When was the last time he contacted anyone for an opinion. (Besides City Hall Insiders)

4/24/2012 03:05:00 PM

i ran into the alderman the other night at a casino and he was yelling at the cocktail waitress to hurry up.

4/24/2012 10:53:00 PM

This jagoff should move his office to the casino.. He is there all the time.

4/25/2012 05:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why isn't our union speaking out about the helmet issue on the front line. And what if we show up in cargo pants are they going to send us home. I am not buying new pants to have shit thrown on them.i want mcasswipe next to me during the protests, kind of like the captin going down with the ship.

4/25/2012 05:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RATE RACOON EYES TabsOnRahm.org is created by the same people who crated TabsOnObama.org

4/25/2012 07:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We were trained in helmets we hear we won't be wearing them,next we'll get foam batons and chant .......Homie don't play that!Are we a bunch of clowns,am I funny ha ha funny,you laughin at me,this has become a joke,and with L.A. suing for exactly the same thing not being allowed their helmets during protests, this city had better rethink this cause if I get hit with something,this city is in for a rude awakening!

4/25/2012 07:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Officers should be aware that disclosure of specific plans and/or safety techniques that may be implemented should not be divulged in any media outlet including social media outlets such as blogs, Facebook, etc. Disclosure of sensitive information could place any Police Officer assigned to this Summit at risk."

4/24/2012 08:29:00 PM

Civilian here, the guy who commented on the fire drill in the original post, and finally, eight years ex-military. Full disclosure. I troll here to keep up my situational awareness in this town. What cops are talking (bitching) about, I want to know. But as much as I might get geeked on gossip about the build-up to NATO, I also don't want you folks to violate OPSEC (operational security). If I can troll here as a solid citizen, then you better assume the jackhole real and wannabe Black Bloc'ers are doing it too. Like they told my pops' generation: "Loose lips sink ships." Stay alert, stay alive, everyone goes home.

4/25/2012 08:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hope the media reports on the two blue shirts in 017 who risked their lives to save a guy who was trying to commit suicide by train tonight. Heard they saw the guy on the tracks and the approaching train, jumped out of their Tahoe and pulled him off tracks. One of them isn't exactly a young guy either. ST Jude was watching over them.

4/25/2012 09:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't care what they say. I'm one of those officers that will be attending this dog and pony Nato show. If you think I'm not wearing my helmet you can KMA. I will refuse to follow a order of plain old stupidity.

4/25/2012 09:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember you will not conform to any order that will place you in harm!!!!

4/25/2012 09:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saint Jude & Mike Ceriale were watching over them. The older Copper worked with Mike in the 013 District.

4/26/2012 06:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

County isn't canceling days off... only time due will not be allowed unless there's a valid reason.

4/26/2012 10:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

U are all dorks drinking kool aid do what u have to do to go home safe. Worst is a asshole boss writes u up. If u cannot write ur way out of a small departmental beef u should not be on this job. Screw this city God Bless the Officers and their families. Remember stick together

4/26/2012 02:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Remember you will not conform to any order that will place you in harm!!!!

4/25/2012 09:55:00 PM
WRONG! You only have a right to refuse an UNLAWFUL order. Putting your candy ass in harm's way is what this job is about.

4/26/2012 03:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Saint Jude & Mike Ceriale were watching over them. The older Copper worked with Mike in the 013 District.

4/26/2012 06:02:00 AM

And wears a Guardian Angel pin with Mike's badge # on it.

4/26/2012 04:49:00 PM  

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