Sergeant "Merit" Package Out
Rumor says that the request for "merit" nominations hit the districts today. Remember, each and every "merit" nomination is stealing an earned spot from someone else on the list. We'd name some of the fine "merit" nominations of years past, but all you have to do is run through 95% of the command staff right now to see them and the results of them running this department into the ground.
How big is the class rumored to be?
How big is the class rumored to be?
Labels: promotions
posted by SCC at 12:06 AM
201 Comments:
I would like to start an award for merit picks. With one being for most clouted merit pick (like aldermans brother, mayors cousin). And the other one for being least deserving (like worked the desk for last ten years, Supes driver).
Here we go again! The biggest show on earth! Work hard boys and girls and you can be merit also! Got your nice degree, and no promotion welcome to the wacky world of not being appreciated!
By earned, do you mean being in the right study group???????
I hope officer pearson gets considered for a merit promotion--- I think he " earned " it....
I can respect an earned "spot" on the list, but both lists, either merit or the actual test list has officers who deserve it, and those who don't. I know officers who did very well on the actual test who should never be supervisors, and I know officers who did horrible on the test who'd be great supervisors. Some merit officers have earned a spot! Just because someone takes a merit spot, doesn't mean they don't deserve it. I think officers should be nominated, then let the po's who work in the streets everyday vote for who they think would be a good supervisor. Let the true voices of Cpd speak. Let po's vote for their leaders!!!
Word from 35th street is this is the last class off of the list.
This merit situation drives me absolutely insane. I believe there is a spot for a small amount of merit people within the department. But i would reserve those spots for people that have gave extraordinary efforts toward the dep't.
Each sgt class consists of 30%, yeah, you read that correct 30%. So a class of 100 sgt's contains 30 merit promo-tee's.
That's 30 people that STOLE spots from guys/girls that studied their asses off for the test. And how many of them really gave extraordinary efforts throughout their career? I'd bet maybe 5 deserve it, tops. The rest are political/favor appointments that we get stuck with as leaders for the next 20 years. F*ckin blows.
I would think that one of the very top things that the FOP would/should go after is the merit system. Or lack there of.
There is no set requirements, statistical achievements, or time on the job that allows one to aspire to a certain number or goal to become merit. It is 100% about who you know.
If i was on the top of that list and lost my spot to "somebody's driver" i would blow my top. You're going to tell me that being a driver for a superintendant justifies you taking a sgt spot from somebody who sacrificed and scored high?
I'm guessing the FOP doesn't make a stink b/c they get a say in a couple merit picks or something. Otherwise, if they actually did what the membership wanted there would be zero - 5% merit, at the most. And i'd bet if we took a pole of blue shirts, 99% or them would vote for no merit at all.
I heard it's going to be a class of about 75 or so.
You want to know what really f'n sucks, is that i'm right around 75 out but will not make it b/c some merit f"ck will being sitting in my seat.
Had there been no merit, i would already be a sgt. 30% of every class is merit so although you were around 200 on the list, you need them to make at least 260 to make it. So essentially add 30% to your number and that's your real number.
Really hard not to get bitter dealing with the CPD promotion process.
Yep, all those higher math and science scores mean nothing either.
The "merit" promo kicks someone out that tried to earn their way in.
Oh yeah...but Jersey boy will not care what kind of images that are conjured up when these promos hit.
You can throw that "Broken Windows" krap that is preached right out the window.
Sweating the little things to send the message that the rules matter doesn't apply here for the clouted ones.
Just to share some sobering facts about your chances of getting promoted on this job:
They have only promoted 150 sgt's since the new list started on 08FEB07.
Of those 150, 30% were merit, so that means they've only promoted 105 off the list that has been up for over 5 years.
That comes out to 21 "legit off the list" promotions per year.
So your chance of getting promoted even if you scored amazing on the test is less than 00.1%
And, they haven't made a sgt class since 13AUG10 which was a class of 30 (9 of which were merit). And the class before that was on 22MAY09 of 30 people (9 of them merit). So in the last 3 years they've only made 42 sgt's off the list.
The sad facts.
My guess is it's a class of 30.
Last class was in August 2010 of 30.
Before that was in May 2009 of 30.
See a trend... Just enough to get the merit hacks in every once in a while. (sup't drivers and such).
between 50 to 100
how can they make sgt's... WHEN THEY HAVE NOT HIRED ANY PO'S???
It's about time! I thought I'd never get promoted.
I guess 1 merit chance per career is too little to ask for???
It takes courage to stand up for what you believe in. Job stealing merit promotees generally lack both courage and character.
PHIL CLINE was the last super to promote any detectives. Jesus Christ.
'Merit' is the way you say corruption in Chicago. It's been that way since they started this crooked department and it will always be that way. You just have to shut your mouth and take the crumbs that they give you. You'll see these 'Merit' picks go up in rank as you progress through the years. You shouldn't stress too much about it because nothing can ever be done. Unless you have clout, then congratulations on your 'Merit' pick!
Who cares.
REMEMBER all you blue shirts.
Per 1st Deputy WYSINGER you will RISE and STAND AT ATTENTION when a supreme exempt officer walks in the room!!!!
You will then stare with envy at his Lambert Tree award which is worth more than your life.
Nearly 100 merit appointments available.... Hummmm.... Time to call your Chinaman...
SCC said - every "merit" nomination is stealing an earned spot.
Reading this is very upsetting - and I am not even CPD. I knew some Sergeants that never made Lt. (due to a bad deal - exam scam(?)).
These were good people. I can imagine if you lost 2-3 promotions to merit hacks.
Maybe they should cut out merit promotions at the Sergeant level. That way, at least the first promotion would have to be earned. That would help.
Not a LEO, JAFO.
One more chance in this career not to make sergeant. Wonderful.
Merit promotions "Chicago Style" is a slap in the face to every decent hard working cop in this city. Like you stated just look at the long list of Merit boys and girls ruining this dept. today. It won't stop because it gives our spineless greedy politicians lots of leverage over this department.
It makes me sick seeing these " All Merit" suckholes walking around like it was "Earned not Given" . Of course they will have the last laugh. They will retire with $80,000 pensions, along with all the money they, unlike us were able to bank by having a company car and free gas for years. You have officers shot in the line of duty doing "real" police work and they get passed over by these useless hacks. The only consolation is that the dirty little secret is finally out, we all know how the current exempts got these spots, unfortunately they are destroying a once proud department. Crime is out of control, you have an ineffective force refusing to sacrifice their lives for a department that won't back them and allows frivilous lawsuits against them, how proud these " leaders must be. It's just sad
Wow. Haven't made a dicks class in 5 years. That's all we need is to deplete patrol and the D-Unit further with another bunch of incompetent sergeants that we don't need. I guess we got a bunch of clout babies that have been waiting too long for a nice fat raise.
I hope they make a class of two hundred this year
This crap should be stopped now! The department is a joke.
Based on past experience, the nomination period will be a month or so, then another month to select merits so figure around 01 July.
I can't wait to see what a pile of worthless shit they crank out this time. More dumb, arrogant, micro-managing douche bags that we don't need. There's still a few good ones out there but they're getting harder and harder to find. This next crop ought to be a real treat.
Let the true voices of Cpd speak. Let po's vote for their leaders!!!
man ur dumb
I would think that one of the very top things that the FOP would/should go after is the merit system. Or lack there
Of course they should. They can fight just like they did for everything else we have lost or given away!
Promoting based on a test that is flawed and leaked out to a chosen few is no better than Merit. I love to see all the supporters of "legit" tests. Let's face the fact and that is that NO TEST going back to the 80's has been legit and some of those "top scores" included family members of those people who actually developed the test! So how legit is that?
Merit promotions should be to detective only for outstanding dedication and work. If you can't pass a test based on your duties as a cop to become a supervisor then you don't deserve the promotion. Period. Go back to that standard and maybe the quality of our leadership will improve.
Anonymous said...
I hope officer pearson gets considered for a merit promotion--- I think he " earned " it....
4/20/2012 12:24:00 AM
Wrong. He did not. He desrves Detective, as do all Po's that have been shot in th eline of duty, but Del, and the others, do not deserve Sergeant. Unless they were in the top 150 or so on the list we do not need anymore surpervisors who are not smart enought to know the job. Look around you now. How many can trust the Sarge to do the job now? Not that many in my district. We would be better off as a Department with smarter leaders. You can use the Dic's for Merit, they are easier to hide, and they would not hurt you as much as a Sergeant.
I think the merit process is 100% legit
-XO Capt Ed Lenti
Merit Sgt
Merit Lt
Merit Capt
Merit XO
I agree with Ed
Commander Pena
Merit Sgt
Merit Dick
Merit Lt
Merit Commander
Can they skip over you if you are on IOD?
"Earmed Spots"? Just because you scored well on a paper test you deserve promotion? Your earned spots are bullshit! Also add the "Invitation Only" Study Groups. I know that the recent death of the leader of those groups is your hero, but he too was part of the problem. A high ranking official of the Dept. directly involved in the development of the tests has an invitation only study group on City of Chicago and Univ. of Ill. property that excludes officers; that is how it was. Then these people scored so well that they consistently were the top 10% of scores, that was "Earned"? A fair test cannot virw experience in 016 as equal to experience in 003, 007 or 015. Experience as the Tac Secretary is not the same as being an FTO in 015. Unless and until this inbalance is corrected and the test made legit there wil be no "earned" promotions.
I scored under 180 and I know I will never make it, but will sue if I don't.
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Big deal!
I'm retired while on duty! KMA!
Take your stripes and stick it where the sun don't shine!
Nothing is earned on this job!
Your are annointed by selling your soul! How many thieves will throw people under the bus for a lousy promotion to midnites, with shitty furloughs!
KMA
And the main stream media goes right along with the merit promotions, never asking why someone related to a politician should be promoted meritoriously.
I scored in the top 250 from the current Sgt list. I literally have no chance of being promoted. That is truly sad. The reason that its said though isn't all because of merit. The last Sgts list got to about 350. This list before that made it into the 500's. That bothers me that someone who didn't do half as well on a test as I did is a Sgt and I won't make it.
Lets face the facts. Half the Sgts making it off the list are either jagoffs, idiots, cowards, morons, do nothings, or desk dollys. The majority are a combination of multiple of the above described adjectives. I didn't mention how many of the Sgts who make it by score that are HEAVY ON CLOUT!!! I truly believe these guys and gals were given the answers as they don't seem to know anyting about being a police officer or even the most basic general orders.
Merit, I have worked for merit Sgts. Some have been great and some have been horrible. The merit Sgts are crap shoot just like the list. The problem with merit is you have the entitled crowd in that group. Those that believe they are great and are going to the top period. Those officers are scary to say the least.
I would change the promotional process. I would keep the test. I would make sure that a minimum amount of overall activity has to be part of getting promoted off the list. No more lock up keepers, secretaries, drivers, and desk personnel getting promoted period!!!!!! You work the street or you don't get promoted!!!!! Merit promotions must be in the top ten percentile in activity. Unless you work in a unit your activity has to have everything in that activity. No to the I just write movers guys. No to Mr Parking ticket guy. No to the piss bum DOPW guys.
That would make for a better promotional process.
Have a Gold Star said...
REMEMBER all you blue shirts.
Per 1st Deputy WYSINGER you will RISE and STAND AT ATTENTION when a supreme exempt officer walks in the room!!!!
You will then stare with envy at his Lambert Tree award which is worth more than your life.
4/20/2012 04:32:00 AM
We are nothing compared to him. He is ALL. The beginning and the end.
i wonder if the XO at public transportation was merit? he was talking about several general orders and he had no clue what the hell he was talking about.
This is going to be a large class. 100+. There is also going to be a lt's class soon after of around 30+.
Anonymous said...
Nearly 100 merit appointments available.... Hummmm.... Time to call your Chinaman...
4/20/2012 04:50:00 AM
100 merit appointments?? That would mean the class of sgt's would be 336. I highly doubt they're going to make a class that big. I think at the most the class would be 100, which would be 30 merit thieves
I have over 20 years on the job and my only goal left is to plan my retirement and leave this stupid, thieving city!
FUCK YOU and your promotion!
We all know it is a sham! I hope the Newsmedia rips your administration a new asshole!
But, the Newsmedia is bought off by Mayor Rahmy, too! Mayor rahm king of the scam artists!
Anonymous said...
I hope officer pearson gets considered for a merit promotion--- I think he " earned " it....
4/20/2012 12:24:00 AM
Yes, see that's what's merit appointments should be for. The guy damn near died for this job. He deserves it. The past two supernintendo's drivers however, yeah i don't think so. Since when does driving the sup't away from shot's fired equal a merit spot?
I'm guessing the FOP doesn't make a stink b/c they get a say in a couple merit picks or something. Otherwise, if they actually did what the membership wanted there would be zero - 5% merit, at the most. And i'd bet if we took a pole of blue shirts, 99% or them would vote for no merit at all.
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Lucky for you, correct spelling and proper grammar aren't requirements to be merited a promotion on this job. Either is common sense, so in the event you get the bump to Sergeant, you'll easily help perpetuate a not-so-proud tradition plaguing this sinking ship called CPD: lack of leadership and ignorance.
If you have one, I suggest you make your phone call now, then "pole" your coworkers to see if 1% would nominate your stupid ass in the event your phone call falls through.
And NO, FOP doesn't "get a say in a couple merit picks or something". You know not of which you post.
Idiot..
NO CHANCE!unless you are connected!this is why the vets slowed it down!THEY KNOW WHAT THE NEWBIES WILL SOON LEARN!
The way to go about it is study hard and do really well on the test, but kiss much ass additionally as a backup plan.
Dell Pearson should be made a SGT right now
Class of 100 is what I was told by HR...30% merit equals only 70 off the list...there are requests for almost 100 merit candidates to be submitted so if you are put in for a merit spot you have a one in three chance of getting it. Bureau of International Relations gets 4 merit picks between all the bosses assigned there. Figure that one out. The "super districts" (19 & 2) plus 8, 11, and 7 each get 3 merit submissions. The other districts get 2 each so that means about half of the merit submissions are coming from units that probably haven't seen patrol in years. Now on to the LTs....33 to come.
With all the nonsense that comes with becoming a white shirt, I'd say no thanks.
Why waste time putting together a professional package to get a merit nomination when those who have a real chance are already known? There are a few officers that deserve it like those shot in the line of duty. But more times than not they get passes up for complete morons. You can study all you want. i have and it got me nowhere. merit promotions should be 5% Thats it. and street time should also factor in. if i worked a midnight desk i too could study all night. But those officers working in the busy districts and have to actually study on their own time would have a fair chance.
My example of why they should discontinue the merit process...Ret. Sgt TA of the old 023rd Dist 1st Watch. Possiblely the biggest jag off I have come across on the job.
Forensics is almost 60 short we could use them more than some more useless supervisors!
Imagine being 71 out and they make 100. Some undeserving merit pick would have your spot. What a kick in the posterior.
Over the years I have know some all-around excellent police officers. Note that all-around means more than just a hard-charger, but they had no clout.
Not a one of them was ever given a meritorious promotion, while the clouted and connected have been given undeserving, meritorious promotions by the hundreds, maybe thousands.
One of the three deserving individuals studied his butt off and eventually made it on his own. Even though he studied, we all know he was also very lucky they did not steal it from him.
Another one did not score high enough on the list, but he was hired by the feds, so we lost his talents. He was the feds gain and our loss.
The third was not a good test taker, but otherwise, he had it all. He would have been a good boss that others would not object to seeing in a sergeant's shirt, but the hierarchy was too busy trying to get meritorious promotions for the clouted and connected that never did a lick of police work in their careers.
BTW, fuck you Phat Phil. You were the worst offender within the department for taking care of the incompetent, but clouted and connected to you. The worst offenders outside the department are the politicians that have no business picking our bosses. We are fucked going forward because of the results brought to us by the corrupt, meritorious promotional process on our job.
what makes you think that a test is the right way to select people for promotion?
good leadership and supervisory skills are not things that can be easily measured. the military has been trying to do it for years and it always seems to come down to the intangibles that can never be measured that actually count.
in any case, any supervisory position in any government agency, police or not, involves as much politics as anything else. a person who cannot deal with that side of the job well is not going to make a very good Sgt. just the way it is. most people can learn to deal with those issues given time though.
There are probably some things that should be prerequisites like being literate and having adequate job skills and knowledge that can be tested for, but maybe that should be just to screen out the manifestly unqualified in those areas.
Time in grade requirements always seems like a great idea until you look at things closely and realize that often the best managers and supervisors in most organizations were not those that spent a lot of time at the bottom of the heap, but those that rose out of it pretty quickly.
Can I qualify even though I had too much recess and not enough study?
1833 for Merit SGT,More Arrrests than the whole Tach Team at 018.
It is time to take the word Merit out of Meritorious promotions....
Just sayin....
The class will be almost 300. They are already making preparations at the academy.
it's ALL legit...and the merit picks will drive morale....through the roof!
Lets see, who ya know and who ya blow list. True merit based on ability and experience, maybe 20% of the merit list if yur lucky
Word on the street is a class of 80 Sgt.s and 30 Lt.s.....why make Lt.s ? I dunno since there are no W/C's anymore it don't make sense. Unless they are trying to squeeze out captains and make Lt.s the new XO's? What say you SCC?
"I hope officer pearson gets considered for a merit promotion--- I think he " earned " it....
4/20/2012 12:24:00 AM"
How do you "Earn" a merit spot due to the path of a bullet?
Is there one lawyer, or law firm willing to take on the patently illegal raced based promotion policy of the Chicago Police Department? It would take a mediocre lawyer ten minutes to show that the promotion of certain whites is a mere red herring thrown in to confuse the few. Ninety percent of the present exempt staff couldn't obtain and hold on to a job sweeping floors in a 10th District carcenaria! But the people of Chicago deserve nothing less, or more.
they should take the Sgt and Lt lists down and give a new test...the dept has redefined both roles and new promotees need new framework/information/training
We need merit promotions. There are very good supervisors who may not test well but display leadership and ability in the field. Testing does not reflect the character and intelligence of the person. By the same token there have been supervisors who tested well but are brain dead in every department and could not lead a horse to water. Of course there is that argument that some merit picks also are failures because they were promoted over their abilities. Aint that right Commander?
Greatest Merit pick of all, he pick up a lass during a domestic. Bought beer on duty for his hook up after work. Slipped her the salami, then while washing his junk, she shoots herself in the head with his .38. 3 days for non securing weapon....way to go jag bag.
Anonymous said...
Who cares.
4/20/2012 03:58:00 AM
I care!! You should too. Without the possibility of getting promoted this job is a long 30 years. Just to have that glimmer of hope that one day I'll be off the beat car and either a sgt or det helps me get by. Without any hope of advancement this would be a rough career.
I know everyone is affected by getting stuck with merit bosses that shouldn't be there, but the people with a real gripe are the ones that are getting passed up b/c their spot is taken by a merit guy. Now that's some bullshit.
It probably only affects about a hundred or so guys directly that won't get promoted b/c of some damn merit hack. B/c it's such a small number everyone isn't up in arms b/c it's not directly affecting them. It's a shame, b/c everyone should be enraged at the fact that some good policeman are getting passed over b/c they aren't drinking buddies or related to someone high enough to get a merit spot.
These "merit" promotes are taking $20k out of the pocket of a guy that studied his balls off and scored just high enough to be on the cusp of getting promoted. He won't get the promotion though b/c a guy with a phone call will take his spot, pushing him 30% further down the list. It's not right.
There is routinely ONE single sgt out on the street during a tour for our watch. So It's pretty short amongst the chevron ranks too.
I think the new budgeted number is 1165 or so, down from 1350. I think we are right around 1090 or so in strenght. Good luck!
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There's a merit sgt on afternoons in 004. Besides being a complete idiot he has no abilitity to lead anyone. He has "earned" nothing but is a professional ass kisser. If this brain dead sgt can make it, anyone can. What a joke this dept. has become.
Why don't they make sure everyone on the list that gets bumped for a merit spot stay on a must promote first list before any test is given or if another test is given they stay on top of that list. Why are they penalized?
finally... Sgt. Cooter
make us proud!
Please update when this notice hits the districts officially. On furlo and need to call FOP to see whats number we're on. Thx
Rumor to be 75-98 Sgts and 30-33 Lt's after G-8. Good luck to those on the actual list.
Remember to be eligible for merit you have to take both parts of the exam. Pearson probably didnt have enough time on in 07.
Did you notice if you work in 012 your fucked. They skipped over 012. Haha. I love this job. It's always about who you know, not what you know.
I work the watch in a busy district. I have a few sgts that were promoted off score, and a few that were merit promotions. I have to say, the two that were promoted off score are idiots, can't make a decision and are terrible leaders. The merit promotions are people that I would run through a wall for because they are tremendous leaders, are very smart and make great decisions. Don't judge a book by its cover, the entire system is flawed, both the test and the merit process. But I'll take my merit sgts over the test sgts because they couldn't lead themselved in a one man parade.
oh lord, here we go...more who think because they kissed ass they actually know the job will be promoted. I hope the city keeps a fund for the labor malpractices that they continously have to cover for.
Why do a bunch of civilian directors, who have never been the police, get to nominate people for merit? Sounds a little POLITICAL? What a f-ing joke.
how can they make sgt's... WHEN THEY HAVE NOT HIRED ANY PO'S???
CPD "fuzzy math" like crime stats
wait for the merit lieutenants list
Word from 35th street is this is the last class off of the list.
Entire class on the bottom for seniority for quite a few years.
Last night we had 4 sgts. and every single rapid was down. That's what we need, more bosses.
Commander Martin will be recommending T.P. in Special Functions as her merit pick. The guy actually deserves it.
Had I taken the test, I'd be a Sgt. on 2nd watch in some southwest side backwater, like Mt. Greenwood or Beverly.
Scc, out of curiosity, you don't believe anyone should be merit?? No one is worthy??
OT gov potatohead will save state pension
ballerino 9.5 finger will raise minuimum retirement age for cpd to 58 and other employees to 60 and will allow police officers to work until age 65
rumor is a mandatory physical for cpd and cfd to force officers off the job early
under 10 years on and be ready for a rough ride
fop must demand city of chicago pay their fair share and money owed for the last 50 years to our pension
I will surely be on the merit list for I am an exceptional police officer.
Can some set up a betting system similar to the Dead Pool for merit picks? We could make a list of the top cloutorious. Then give them odds. Everyone from each unit could submit their most egregious political hacks. At least we could profit off these bozos some how
More chiefs than Indians
PO/Det/Sgt/Lt/Capt/Commander/Capt Christine Kolman retired effective April 15, The Year of Our Lorde 2012. Godspeed.
OT
Apparently the pit bull cop tried to access some information about the 911 calls made in response to the beach dog attack.
ASAs are reviewing charges for Official Misconduct.
He will make a perfect cop-villain, so expect a very public beating, especially because the city is not liable for his off duty actions.
OT Just an observation
Retired PO passes away and a car is asked for the possession. SS says we are short manpower and can't spare a car. Gang banger is killed and the department can send a helicpoter lots of cars with blue lights to escort the banger to the cemetery. This is sad but true we spend more on a gang banger then one of our own. This did occur today.
QUOTA! CLOUT! QUOTA! CLOUT! QUOTA, QUOTA, QUOTA.
Excellence on this job is a thing of the past, now promotion is based solely on the above.
and so is George Zimmerman on bail:
Just in breaking news OT:
George Zimmermans bond hearing today,he took stand and stated he was sorry to Mr/mrs trayvon for the loss of their son.Judge shut down State cross of him.
Lead detective blew hole in States case.He ststed to defense that he had NO evidence as to who started the fight or who the aggressor was.
Picture released of George Zimmermans head(back).Lots of blood and TWO clear lacerations to scalp bleeding profusely.
Zimmerman granted $150k bail.
Does sword swallowing skills count?
OT:
To all you retards thinking we should unite with the CTU read this link:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/20/left-wing-teachers-plan-to-occupy-u-s-department-of-justice-to-defend-a-cop-killer
Just because you think your wife or your sister is cool doesn't mean most of them aren't flaming jagoffs.
look at our command staff , only qualified person is a new yorker
95 % of our command staff didn't score high enough to be promoted to sergeant , that's the reason for station shift supervisor
rahm knows that desk sgt did 99% of watch operations for unqualified merit captains and lieutenants , he heard it from a retired desk sgt
it's win win for city of chicago
Everyone knew when they took the test that there were merit spots. Like anyone that gets the chance would turn it down in protest, because it's wrong, Bull. If you can get it take it and use it wisely.
OT Regina Evans was just indicted for fraud
Anonymous said...
how can they make sgt's... WHEN THEY HAVE NOT HIRED ANY PO'S???
4/20/2012 02:08:00 AM
Easy....They haven't replaced lieutenants and captains which sergeants are basically acting as. It saves them a lot of money to make 100 sergeants who now do the job of a lieutenant. With the way things are going I wouldn't be surprised if lieutenant is phased out through attrition.
Let's start a popular vote thread for merit sgt nominations!
Who do you want to work for and why?
I'll be in the next class for sure. I didn't have the answers and don't have any clout. I studied and passed.
I could see bitching about the merit hacks. After all, I would have been a sgt already if it wasn't for them. But don't complain about the ones who studied their asses off and passed the test.
Let the true voices of Cpd speak. Let po's vote for their leaders!!!
man ur dumb
4/20/2012 07:39:00 AM
Apparently ur dumb, it was sarcasm! I guess an idiot couldn't figure that out on his own!
I've seen some officers pass the promotional exam and make it to the top 25 on the list. Most were book smart, street idiots. Had no clue how to handle anything in a district, and got a "study guide" from the boss they were the secretary for. Do they deserve Sgt because they were some exempts secretary, and they knew exactly what to study, and how to answer?
There was an attempt to have a "legit" promotional exam...the 1993 sergeant's exam administered by Arthur Anderson.
And what was the result? A class of 115 in rank order that was almost lilly white! This was not politically correct and the list was scrapped for the new test with "merit."
Merit should be for D-2 and D-2A positions ONLY!! If you can't pass a written exam you shouldn't be a supervisor. Look at our ranks now, so many incompetent and clouted supervisors that the place is falling down all around us.
Won't happen though, political correctness rules the world!
I once shot a "meritorious" elephant in my pajamas. How he got made meritoriously I'll never know.
I gave up a long time ago on the "promotion lottery.". I think you have a better chance of winning the little lotto than getting promoted in this place.
The more thing changed the more they stay the same. At least, we will see who the newest crop of clouted blue shirts
Do hope they take care of the po's that were shot. Quite a few last year and a few are still walking around with bullets in them. Used to be that way, not sure now Times change
OT. Can anyone recommend a private investigator. My friend is going through a divorce and needs a PI for custody purposes. Not a cheating thing. Any help would be greatly appreciated
4/20/2012 08:06:00 AM
"My Friend" just stay out of it. They didn't ask you for permission to fu*k them now did they my friend????
I'm guessing the FOP doesn't make a stink b/c they get a say in a couple merit picks or something. Otherwise, if they actually did what the membership wanted there would be zero - 5% merit, at the most. And i'd bet if we took a pole of blue shirts, 99% or them would vote for no merit at all.
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Lucky for you, correct spelling and proper grammar aren't requirements to be merited a promotion on this job. Either is common sense, so in the event you get the bump to Sergeant, you'll easily help perpetuate a not-so-proud tradition plaguing this sinking ship called CPD: lack of leadership and ignorance.
If you have one, I suggest you make your phone call now, then "pole" your coworkers to see if 1% would nominate your stupid ass in the event your phone call falls through.
And NO, FOP doesn't "get a say in a couple merit picks or something". You know not of which you post.
Idiot..
4/20/2012 08:25:00 AM
And lucky for you no one is checking yours... LOL!!!!
Whoever is looking for a private investigator - email cpderik@yahoo.com
they should take the Sgt and Lt lists down and give a new test...the dept has redefined both roles and new promotees need new framework/information/training
4/20/2012 10:15:00 AM
Ha. Spoken like someone who did not score well. Study harder next time loser.
Speaking of merit hacks, Anyone remember Regina Evans? The former Country Club Hills Chief just got indicted for State grants fraud. More to follow I'm sure.
West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...
I'm guessing the FOP doesn't make a stink b/c they get a say in a couple merit picks or something. Otherwise, if they actually did what the membership wanted there would be zero - 5% merit, at the most. And i'd bet if we took a pole of blue shirts, 99% or them would vote for no merit at all.
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Lucky for you, correct spelling and proper grammar aren't requirements to be merited a promotion on this job. Either is common sense, so in the event you get the bump to Sergeant, you'll easily help perpetuate a not-so-proud tradition plaguing this sinking ship called CPD: lack of leadership and ignorance.
If you have one, I suggest you make your phone call now, then "pole" your coworkers to see if 1% would nominate your stupid ass in the event your phone call falls through.
And NO, FOP doesn't "get a say in a couple merit picks or something". You know not of which you post.
Idiot..
4/20/2012 08:25:00 AM
So we know that original poster is not the editor of the FOP newsletter. We also know that the response comes directly from the FOP: Insult, belittle, repeat (although, in this instance, the response is missing its usual sexual reference; Chalkie says: the exception which proves the rule).
Can someone at the FOP act on the pulse of its members as outlined here?
Exactly how many people am I paying to read this blog and insult my coworkers?
BTW: Senate Bill 4666 the only pension bill moving in Springfield says that General Assembly members and Illinois Judges will not be getting COLA raises except for one/half of inflation as outlined today by Quinn. Bad news for us 55 and out guys who were counting on 3% increases. Have pension reps been at roll calls or retire meetings to explain this? Are any of them returning YOUR calls?
Here is an idea.
How about MERIT PROMOTEES CAN NOT GET the same pension as a promotee that actually scored better on the test. They get the pay raise but not the pension. If they actually pass the test and are promoted to the position (by score) at a later test date then they can get the pension. Further the department can not have more then 30 percent of the total number of any rank above a p.o. or their pick is forfeited. Last all merit picks are moved to the bottom of senority list below those that past the same test and made it off the list, or merit promotees are made on last list of promotions before test list is taken. down.
with this promotion, the patrolman pool gets even slimmer. skeleton crews on the street, back logs, denied time due, denied lunches, all time low morale. the mayor doesnt care about public safety, only about money.
As an officer that has been shot I agree that the merit selection should be for detective, better job anyway. Not sure if I would want the headaches that a district Sgt faces today, would like the bump in pension but other than that it's a thankless job. A boss can put you in but unless you have phone call you are no being made. I think there is room for merit Sgt's but 30% is way to high and the resume should reflect the promotion.
Pension Reform - So, after giving the millionaire traders at the Merc a huge tax break, it's time for the State to pay the bill on the back of teachers, firefighters and police officers.
The traders get a tax break and the middle-class workers get an increased retirement age, reduced cost of living increases, and higher contributions.
If I get shot can I become a boss? I've heard of it too... What if I get stabbed? Or run over with a car? Get kidnaped by gang bangers? Does anyone know the requirements in cases such as these?
O.T.....scoop from the sups office....005, 007 & 022 will be up for next weeks CompStat
I have almost 9 1/2 years on the job and still have not been eligible to take a test. talk about unfair. not even a chance to make rank.
Anonymous said...
There was an attempt to have a "legit" promotional exam...the 1993 sergeant's exam administered by Arthur Anderson.
And what was the result? A class of 115 in rank order that was almost lilly white! This was not politically correct and the list was scrapped for the new test with "merit."
Merit should be for D-2 and D-2A positions ONLY!! If you can't pass a written exam you shouldn't be a supervisor. Look at our ranks now, so many incompetent and clouted supervisors that the place is falling down all around us.
Won't happen though, political correctness rules the world!
4/20/2012 03:49:00 PM
Agreed 100 %..1993 was in fact the only time in CPD history that any sgt or lt promotion was made that did not have meritorious promotions. Daley had Chief Cadogan testify in federal court that rank order was in fact the best way to promote. Vever happened again.
Anonymous said...
OT. Can anyone recommend a private investigator. My friend is going through a divorce and needs a PI for custody purposes. Not a cheating thing. Any help would be greatly appreciated
4/20/2012 08:06:00 AM
"My Friend" just stay out of it. They didn't ask you for permission to fu*k them now did they my friend????
4/20/2012 04:21:00 PM
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hey dbag i was just asking for a name of a legit PI to pass along thats it
Dell Pearson should be made a SGT right now
4/20/2012 08:30:00 AM
It would be nice but discriminatory because there are several officers who have been shot in the line of duty who deserve it was well.
30 sgts to be made. 21 of the list. This department is a joke.
Was 30 out when the City took down the last list for Sgt. Only went up to number 380 or so.
"Is there one lawyer, or law firm willing to take on the patently illegal raced based promotion policy of the Chicago Police Department"
TO THE COMMENTATOR OF THE ABOVE: That's the problem, you guys have to understand it isn't RACED BASED, it's who you know BASED, I know a few male and female caucasian's or as you would put it "white people" make it meritorious so what are you going to base your law suit on? I'll just throw out a few initials, M/jo'g, F/ms and F/mr and there are plenty more so stop your racist shit already, it gets really tiring!!
I have seen sergeants who made it by "score" who are extremely lacking as supervisors. I have also seen sergeants who made it on "merit" who actually do a great job, and are admired by the troops who work for them. I think a tiny amount of TRUE "merit" promotions would be beneficial.
I agree with the readership that the current "merit" share of 30% of promotions needs to be scrapped. We all know "merit" means "clout," and "clout" ONLY. There is not a single person working at CPD who could say otherwise, and pass a polygraph test while saying it.
If "merit" promotions are to continue, it should probably be 5% at a maximum, and I like the idea that these promotions would be the result of the troops voting, rather than being decided by exempt members.
There is a New Age of Personal Responsibility dawning. The way the promotions are done right now is not right, and not in harmony with God's Law. CPD must voluntarily change for the good, or the forces of destiny will eventually rock this department.
the only thing om the square is wrestling and the cpd. where have you been, it just dawned on you? twenty years from now it will be the same.
To 4/202012 3:49
The first merit promotions were from the 73 Sergeants list, per Fed Judge Prentiss Marshall. He declared the need for a racial quota after the results were published. Prior to that the ONLY exam that had any merit component was the Dets test.
You have a better chance to hit on Powerball than to make Sergeant fair and square on this police department.
Anonymous said...
Dell Pearson should be made a SGT right now
4/20/2012 08:30:00 AM
It would be nice but discriminatory because there are several officers who have been shot in the line of duty who deserve it was well.
4/20/2012 05:41:00 PM
Getting shot does not mean you should be a supervisor. There are certainly other assignments, like detective, that are more appropriate.
Dell Pearson should be made a SGT right now
4/20/2012 08:30:00 AM
It would be nice but discriminatory because there are several officers who have been shot in the line of duty who deserve it was well.
4/20/2012 05:41:00 PM
Why should he be made a sergeant because someone shot him? Did the bullet make him smarter than other officers? Did it make him a leader? Oh, I know; that bullet conferred superpowers on him!
Getting shot does NOT automatically make you supervisory material.
But don't worry. McPublicityHound picked Del as his new best friend, so Del will probably get that 'merit' nod, anyway.
Only the finest of the finest become Sergeants in the Chicago Police Department.
I hope one day to join their great ranks!
Anonymous said...
OT. Can anyone recommend a private investigator. My friend is going through a divorce and needs a PI for custody purposes. Not a cheating thing. Any help would be greatly appreciated
4/20/2012 08:06:00 AM
"My Friend" just stay out of it. They didn't ask you for permission to fu*k them now did they my friend????
4/20/2012 04:21:00 PM
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hey dbag i was just asking for a name of a legit PI to pass along thats it
4/20/2012 05:28:00 PM
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Legit private investigators have to be licensed by the State. Go to the site, run through the list of who's licensed in Chicago, then pick one.
You'll probably recognize a few of the names, if you're in law enforcement. Enough said.
OT to SCC: Defeat HR4646 We have to defeat this bill in congress. A 1% bank transaction tax on all banking transactions. Lets say you deposit your yearly salary of $70,000. The tax would be $700. And then you make yearly with drawels of $60,000. The tax would be $600. A total of $1,300 out of your pocket in additional taxes. Your figures may be differant, but this tax will be 2% on all your transactions. LOOK IT UP HR4646.
4/20/2012 11:15:00 AM
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Relax, Bunky. This same goof has introduced this same bill for about eight years now. It has never made it out of committee any time he has broached it.
You don't have to work to defeat it. It doesn't have any standing.
Per CBS news, Boston:
"What’s true is that there is an HR-4646 that has been introduced a number of times since 2004 by Pennsylvania Rep. Chaka Fattah. It would create a 1% transaction tax as well as phase out the federal income tax. It’s referred to as The Debt Free America Act. The tax would be used primarily to pay down the debt. No other legislator has signed on as a co-sponsor and it’s never gotten out of committee."
Anonymous said...
With all the nonsense that comes with becoming a white shirt, I'd say no thanks.
4/20/2012 08:42:00 AM
I call bullshit!
Anonymous said...
they should take the Sgt and Lt lists down and give a new test...the dept has redefined both roles and new promotees need new framework/information/training
4/20/2012 10:15:00 AM
Obviously you didn't do too well on this test!
Bottom line- there should be an array of requirements to be a sgt. A well rounded experienced Officer that can make decisions on their own is all we, the working Police ask for. Is it that hard?
Anonymous said...
OT Just an observation
Retired PO passes away and a car is asked for the possession. SS says we are short manpower and can't spare a car. Gang banger is killed and the department can send a helicpoter lots of cars with blue lights to escort the banger to the cemetery. This is sad but true we spend more on a gang banger then one of our own. This did occur today.
4/20/2012 02:22:00 PM
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Are you referring to 022, because 022 had a gang funeral today that downed a good portion of the district and the helicopter assisted. 022 gets an exorbitant amount of funeral escort requests and I have never seen them turn anyone down. Both Lt's on 2nd watch are odd but when it comes to funeral escorts for Officers, they have always done the right thing.
for what seems like an eternity, i'm still waiting for my merit promotion.
Chalkie
Anonymous said...
OT. Can anyone recommend a private investigator. My friend is going through a divorce and needs a PI for custody purposes. Not a cheating thing. Any help would be greatly appreciated
4/20/2012 08:06:00 AM
"My Friend" just stay out of it. They didn't ask you for permission to fu*k them now did they my friend????
4/20/2012 04:21:00 PM
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hey dbag i was just asking for a name of a legit PI to pass along thats it
Years ago there was a great PI named CANNON. He did a fantastic job but was sort of short and fat and stood out in a crowd.
Anonymous said...
There was an attempt to have a "legit" promotional exam...the 1993 sergeant's exam administered by Arthur Anderson.
And what was the result? A class of 115 in rank order that was almost lilly white! This was not politically correct and the list was scrapped for the new test with "merit."
Merit should be for D-2 and D-2A positions ONLY!! If you can't pass a written exam you shouldn't be a supervisor. Look at our ranks now, so many incompetent and clouted supervisors that the place is falling down all around us.
Won't happen though, political correctness rules the world!
4/20/2012 03:49:00 PM
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Your comment is half right.. The 1993 test results were not what the department was hoping for racially, but it was NOT scrapped for a new test. There were 3 classes of Sgt's made from that list, one in 1994, one in 1996 and one in 1997. The total number of Sgt's made was 400+. There was no merit, therefore when you received your results, you knew exactly where you stood. I made it from that test. Had there been merit, I would've never made it.
Anonymous said...
i wonder if the XO at public transportation was merit? he was talking about several general orders and he had no clue what the hell he was talking about.
4/20/2012 08:13:00 AM
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Of course he is!!
His chinaman was none other than Phat Phil.
Hey!! TJL! We all know you read this blog:
Phuck Phat Phil!!!
We have to many sgt 's already . hire more police officers . Why waste money that could be used for police officers .
Da tall one..what a joke!!!!+
quit bitching, given the chance most of you would take the merit promotion and never look back.
A couple years back I had a few drinks with a commander who I thought was a friend. We came on the job together, made sergeant together and made Lt. together. Under the influence of a bit more alcohol than I was accustomed I went on a tirade about several of our classmates that had made it meritoriously. I stressed that though some were good guys so were most of the people they had passed over. In a drunken state I called all meritorious promotions theft from the others on the list, pretenders, and a few other choice words. Our friendship cooled shortly after that and eventually he became increasingly antagonistic toward me. Just today, during a heated discussion about the nomination process for meritorious sergeant I found out, from his own mouth, he had been meritoriously promoted each time. How naïve was I? But what really frosts me is that every fucking person that I knew who has made it meritoriously starts out a bit reticent, perhaps even embarrassed about their meritorious promotion; and every fucking one of them eventually becomes absolutely convinced that they were completely deserving and in some respects even more deserving than anyone who made it on their own. I know that this has always been part of this department. That those with clout get undeserved promotions and hard working coppers most often get overlooked, even despised. If McCarthy really cared about coppers he would put an end to this. How naïve am I still?
Anonymous said...
OT. Can anyone recommend a private investigator. My friend is going through a divorce and needs a PI for custody purposes. Not a cheating thing. Any help would be greatly appreciated
4/20/2012 08:06:00 AM
Google Maley Investigations, retired ISP detective. I have dealt with him for the same and came up with the desired results. NOT CHEAP but effective.
I actually hope not because he did his job just like many have done before, will do in the future and would do. Many other officers have shot, gotten severely injured and survived incidents and although he got a lot of attention, those officers barely even got recognized. We all do this job knowing that perhaps it may earn us a wheelchair, but that's what we do, we try to make a difference and not wanting something in return because this City is unappreciative of our efforts, but we have to know better. It is a calling, more than a job and also a love for justice even in our twisted way. Very small percent of officers ever go through a super critical percentage and even smaller the ones that survive it. However, Pearson lost my respect when he backed McGoofy and I am sorry but even in my death bed I do not support that type of leadership. I have gone as far as asking my family that if I am to go under another critical indicent to make sure that McGoofy does not become part of it.
Anonymous said...
I hope officer pearson gets considered for a merit promotion--- I think he " earned " it....
4/20/2012 12:24:00 AM
Wrong. He did not. He desrves Detective, as do all Po's that have been shot in th eline of duty, but Del, and the others, do not deserve Sergeant. Unless they were in the top 150 or so on the list we do not need anymore surpervisors who are not smart enought to know the job. Look around you now. How many can trust the Sarge to do the job now? Not that many in my district. We would be better off as a Department with smarter leaders. You can use the Dic's for Merit, they are easier to hide, and they would not hurt you as much as a Sergeant.
4/20/2012 07:55:00 AM
The guys that worked the hardest on this job can't even take the test if they don't have any college.
I hope officer pearson gets considered for a merit promotion--- I think he " earned " it....
4/20/2012 12:24:00 AM
Wrong. He did not. He desrves Detective, as do all Po's that have been shot in th eline of duty, but Del, and the others, do not deserve Sergeant. Unless they were in the top 150 or so on the list we do not need anymore surpervisors who are not smart enought to know the job. Look around you now. How many can trust the Sarge to do the job now? Not that many in my district. We would be better off as a Department with smarter leaders. You can use the Dic's for Merit, they are easier to hide, and they would not hurt you as much as a Sergeant.
4/20/2012 07:55:00 AM
It doesnt matter he couldnt take the test, so he cant get promoted. He has less the 10 years which is the lowest you can have on to take the tests.
Looks like cooter from the 001st dist will make it this time.
Wow and the P.o> acting commander thompson on mayors detail gets a pick? yep all fair!
To: 4/20/2012 10:44:00 PM
The promotion system is unsalvagable. A squared away person that refuses to use clout will not lead on this department. It's one of the big reasons why the department is now hands off.
It's a slow demise.
OT: All the equipment in the Academy Workout room was fixed today.
one question? why the fuck are the civilian bosses allowed to put their merit picks on this list...what the fuck do they know about being the police....what a joke...
...new promotees need new framework/information/training
4/20/2012 10:15:00 AM
Ha. Spoken like someone who did not score well. Study harder next time loser...
Try spoken like someone who made it off the 93 Sgt test and then made Lt legit (not merit) with ALL my time in patrol...and without an axe to grind or a penchant for name-calling
Anonymous said...
with this promotion, the patrolman pool gets even slimmer. skeleton crews on the street, back logs, denied time due...
4/20/2012 04:53:00 PM
I agree that we are short-handed but these promotions won't affect us too much as the majority won't be from Districts
Who the fuck in their right mind and with an intact soul/conscience would want to be a "management member" of the flaming shit-show with hot peppers CPD has become?
The new powers that be want to make sure there is no collective or institutional memory as to what constitutes a good Police supervisor let alone the too few shining examples of what a "BOSS" is...
CPD is being re-booted into something unrecognizeable.
We wonder what it's coming to when the majority of the Department never knew the savage joy of putting the Chevy on the sidewalk, hunting down, locking up and putting a powerful hurtin' on truly bad people...
There were lumps, bumps and bruises but dude knew we were there for that ass the next night and the night after that lockin' that ass up until said ass got tired of getting locked up and went underground or relocated somewhere else to play the bullshit game.
Flaming Tutu & McMooky are playing the bullshit game just like dude on the corner...
.. "The 1993 test results were not what the department was hoping for racially, but it was NOT scrapped for a new test. There were 3 classes of Sgt's made from that list, one in 1994, one in 1996 and one in 1997. The total number of Sgt's made was 400+. There was no merit, therefore when you received your results, you knew exactly where you stood. I made it from that test. Had there been merit, I would've never made it."
Thats a crock of Bullshit, there have been merits in every promotion class, You never knew who they were unless they actually revealed it themselves.It's only recent under weis that Merits were actually revealed. You convienently left out the secret squirrel study groupo promotees as well. Don't try to perpetrate the lie that the test was ever legit.Disingenuous & Factually WRONG.
There were no merits in 1993 class...but yes- there were the usual "special study group" promotees
I have to disagree with some posters here. I was on the job in the 90s, a sergeant. The merit promotees were well known, because the legitimate lists were out. Promotions were held up in order to make the merits. Sergeants classes were sent back to the districts without being sworn in. 54 lieutenants ere made with 5 merit picks in 1994 and another 54 with five merit picks in 1997. After this, the city refused to list merit picks or to release the original promotion lists to hide these picks.
I seriously doubt that the superintendent of police could scrap or even alter the merit promotion system. Promotions are run by HR in city hall and the mayor, not by the police department. All the super can do is ask for promotions, it has to be granted by city hall and city hall determines the process. In case you have not heard, the police department is just a department of city government and HR of the city, not HR of the department, controls all hiring and promotions for all departments. Do you really think that the mayor is going to give up the merit system, a system where he can promote anyone he wants for any reason?
Can they skip over you if you are on IOD?
Yes.Like everything on this job, they want you in full duty status before you can do or be considered for anything.
That is, of course, unless your clout is heavy then you get escorted to the front of the line.
Anonymous said...
"Is there one lawyer, or law firm willing to take on the patently illegal raced based promotion policy of the Chicago Police Department"
TO THE COMMENTATOR OF THE ABOVE: That's the problem, you guys have to understand it isn't RACED BASED, it's who you know BASED, I know a few male and female caucasian's or as you would put it "white people" make it meritorious so what are you going to base your law suit on? I'll just throw out a few initials, M/jo'g, F/ms and F/mr and there are plenty more so stop your racist shit already, it gets really tiring!!
4/20/2012 06:56:00 PM
Well, you're going to hear more "racist" shit you half-wit because all but one minority promotee in my sergeants class were meritoriously promoted over more qualified white candidates. Yes, the class included merit white officers as well, an obvious nod to the connected individuals and a feeble attempt to legitimize the process. But the big picture, and the obvious and inconvenient truth that you reject is that the merit promotion policy is raced based promotion.
Thats a crock of Bullshit, there have been merits in every promotion class, You never knew who they were unless they actually revealed it themselves.It's only recent under weis that Merits were actually revealed. You convienently left out the secret squirrel study group promotees as well. Don't try to perpetrate the lie that the test was ever legit.Disingenuous & Factually WRONG.
Well said and right on the money !
Anonymous said...
Speaking of merit hacks, Anyone remember Regina Evans? The former Country Club Hills Chief just got indicted for State grants fraud. More to follow I'm sure.
4/20/2012 04:43:00 PM
Does anyone have an idea who her clout was? They may be next if the politicians let the investigation proceed.
4/21/2012 03:00:00 AM
Do you want some cheese with that whine?
03:49 wont swear you are right, but around that time something happened to that list and because of what you said and the time it takes to make and administer a new test, the city actually made "temporary sgts" and everyone thought when the new list came out all the temporary sgts would be on it and that was not the case
Anonymous said...
...new promotees need new framework/information/training
4/20/2012 10:15:00 AM
Ha. Spoken like someone who did not score well. Study harder next time loser...
Try spoken like someone who made it off the 93 Sgt test and then made Lt legit (not merit) with ALL my time in patrol...and without an axe to grind or a penchant for name-calling
4/20/2012 11:57:00 PM
Maybe you have a son/duughter who wants to take a test...
OT Just an observation
Retired PO passes away and a car is asked for the possession. SS says we are short manpower and can't spare a car. Gang banger is killed and the department can send a helicpoter lots of cars with blue lights to escort the banger to the cemetery. This is sad but true we spend more on a gang banger then one of our own. This did occur today.
4/20/2012 02:22:00 PM
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Are you referring to 022, because 022 had a gang funeral today that downed a good portion of the district and the helicopter assisted. 022 gets an exorbitant amount of funeral escort requests and I have never seen them turn anyone down. Both Lt's on 2nd watch are odd but when it comes to funeral escorts for Officers, they have always done the right thing.
4/20/2012 09:14:00 PM
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It wasn't 022. I have yet to turn down a funeral escort request. We never received a request on the day of that gangbanger funeral mentioned.
---One of those odd Lieutenants on 2nd watch
The 1993 test was bogus too. Arthur Andersen administered the exam. That's the same Arthur Andersen that cooked the books for Enron. Every promotional exam given by this department is viewed with suspicion.
Anonymous said...
Is there one lawyer, or law firm willing to take on the patently illegal raced based promotion policy of the Chicago Police Department? It would take a mediocre lawyer ten minutes to show that the promotion of certain whites is a mere red herring thrown in to confuse the few. Ninety percent of the present exempt staff couldn't obtain and hold on to a job sweeping floors in a 10th District carcenaria! But the people of Chicago deserve nothing less, or more.
4/20/2012 10:13:00 AM
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Is any one, other than you, dumb enough to think that this hasn't been thought of and tried over the last 30 or more years?
Detectives make more than Sgts with OT and you can keep your seniority so you can work special...keep the chevrons!
This Department got run into the ground when Jan R-D got moved up to #1 on the Sgt list. Oh, I forgot, she did better on the 'tests.'
Scoring high on a test doesn't make a person a good supervisor.
There are officers out there that are poor test takers, but would make a great supervisors.
The department needs to limit promotions to one per career.
rb
"what makes you think that a test is the right way to select people for promotion?"
To be promoted should require some time in grade, a passing score on a written test and at this point it might as well be a lottery system; you write your star number on a ping pong ball & toss it in the hopper.
Yes this diminishes the process, but will be much more fair: No merit. No racial/sex quotas. No nonsense.
rb
"Without the possibility of getting promoted this job is a long 30 years. Just to have that glimmer of hope that one day I'll be off the beat car and either a sgt or det helps me get by. Without any hope of advancement this would be a rough career."
Not true. I came on this job with every intention of pushing a beat car my entire career. That doesn't mean that I have no ambition. This job has given me great opportunities; I got my masters degree (fully paid by the city), and have had a front-row seat to some of the oddest human behavior. I've worked for and with some really, really great coppers and wouldn't trade this for the world.
I've survived several administrations and will outlast this one, too.
When it's time to go I'll be able to use my education in a great retirement job. Working on my PhD now.
If you think about the future of promotions here, the prospects are dim.
Hell, no one on the department is smart enough to be superintendent.
What does that tell you?
rb
"I once shot a 'meritorious' elephant in my pajamas. How he got made meritoriously I'll never know."
And how did he get in your pajamas??
:)
If you think about the future of promotions here, the prospects are dim.
Hell, no one on the department is smart enough to be superintendent.
What does that tell you?
rb
4/21/2012 11:39:00 PM
Seriously? you mean to tell me there's not one single person on the department with an IQ above 75?
Anonymous said...
If you think about the future of promotions here, the prospects are dim.
Hell, no one on the department is smart enough to be superintendent.
What does that tell you?
rb
4/21/2012 11:39:00 PM
If you work for the Department, it tells me that you are particularly stupid. Don,t worry, I would bet a lot of them are smarter than you. The Department has many smart and qualified people.
No one is smart enough
I didn't think I'd need to spell it out.
Sorry to those who misunderstood.
Without a doubt, there are people smarter than I am on this job. You might even be one of them.
rb
My previous posting:
If you think about the future of promotions here, the prospects are dim.
Hell, no one on the department is smart enough to be superintendent.
What does that tell you?
rb
(My previous reply was truncated for some reason. Let's try this again)
No one is smart enough ((in the mayor's eyes)). Why else would he go outside the department?
I didn't think I'd need to spell it out.
Sorry to those who misunderstood.
Without a doubt, there are people smarter than I am on this job. You might even be one of them.
rb
My previous posting:
If you think about the future of promotions here, the prospects are dim.
Hell, no one on the department is smart enough to be superintendent.
What does that tell you?
rb
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