We Have Chainsaws?
About two dozen people barricaded themselves inside a South Side mental health clinic Thursday, protesting Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s plans to consolidate 12 city clinics into six.
The demonstrators, including about 50 people outside the clinic at 63rd Street and South Woodlawn Avenue, said they planned to stay on site until Emanuel agrees to keep all of the public clinics open.
One of the protest organizers, Matt Ginsburg, said he and about 20 others had been arrested for trespassing about 1 a.m. Friday.
He said the protesters put up barricades in front of the doors made of steel gates, piping and quick-dry cement, but that police used chainsaws to cut through them early Friday, arresting those inside.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
62 Comments:
first of all The reason that these goofs are there, is because theyre nuts. Just ignore them and let them sit chained to the doors or whatever all night Who cares? They want the clinic open. How many of them pay any taxes?
A Carl Gustav with a 84mm FFV441B HE round does a better job.
We have cut teams that were trained for G8/Nato. I'm guessing they weren't using chainsaws but since these protesters have never done manual labor in their lifetime any motorized saw is a chainsaw.
Personally, I love the idea of a chainsaw. Nothing puts the fear of G-d into an asshole behind something like a chainsaw coming through...
Even better - some of these assholes are already insane - this is just great! They were already on the edge and now a chainsaw came through an impenetrable door toward their face! YES! YES! YES! I LOVE THIS!
Closing down mental health clinics? We should be opening more. There is a great need for these clinics. The Racoon could give a fuck less folks. The Racoon and his family get the very best of health care so fuck you and yours. This city is facing a crisis on all levels. And what is the mayor doing? Finger pointing, fairy tale audits, and bullshit excuses and promises. Fact is the little bastard doesn't know what he is doing. This little rat asshole is in way over his head. He thinks he is some kind of Arabian Sultan who just snaps his fingers (that's funny) and everyone will jump and do his bidding. Pretty fucking sad when people have to barricade themselves inside a clinic and be extracted with chain saws and arrested. What the hell have we become. Jesus!
The Infrastructure ordinance is coming your way folks. The Racoon will be handed $Billions in unbid contracts to hand out to whomever he pleases. I can only guess how many drooling corrupt bastard contractors are waiting at the well to stick their greasy crooked beaks in for a meal. The mayor will appoint a 5 member "panel" who will control and spend this money. Aldersuckholes made some noise so the Racoon will get to place one of his whore Aldercreatures on the panel to keep an eye on them. Do I hear laughing out there? Don't worry about all of the dead kids and other bodies littering the streets near all those speed bumps the Racoon wants to build lots of worthless over priced projects to make himself look good. As usual all about the MONEY!
HE said police used chainsaws. Doesn't mean that's`actually what we used. Is there video?
Chicago needs a battalion of heavy armor. Tahoes with open frames with 105MM howitzers mounted on them.
If nothing else, the shock and awe factor of one of these responding down to a call would scare the Hell out of people.
Forget the SWAT Team. Chicago would have SPLAT.
SPLAT - Special Police Loaded with Armor & Tactics.
That's putting real firepower out there as a SDK. (Southside Door Key)
I'd take one of them over 100 cameras any day.
Wouldn't it make more sense to have CFD do it? They have people trained and experienced in doing that stuff routinely. For the number of times this sort of thing will be used, just get on scene training from CFD if they won't do it. It's not rocket science, HBT "should have" breacher training and equipment, where were they?
If the equipment is going to be owned by CPD, how long do you think before it all disappears and/or is broken? Or you've got Burke's, Daley's and Rahm's details doing yardwork?
I'm sure by now somebody has noticed how fucked up it is when you run an offender on I-Clear. Every arrestee's entire gang affiliation from his entire life is lumped together. mistakes in the past, officers guess work, the offenders admissions, the offender guilty by associations. They are all lumped into one. So you hope to identify your guy's gang affiliation. Good luck boys and girls. Some idiot fucked it all up. Last guy I ran was a GD, BD, MC, Black Stone and then 8 different factions of the Vicelords. Then, try going back on another arrest to see his gang affiliation and its all lumped into one again. What a joke. I think maybe somebody in the food chain thought they were maybe doing a good thing when infact they fucked everything up. God, who comes up with this shit.
What was not reported was the fact that the "occupy" people put out fliers recruiting people who were patients there. They promised them a rally to support the cause and FOOD...then they locked (chained doors, etc.) them in the clinic w/ the protesters (without their knowledge). Absolutley shameful that they would exploit the very people they claim to protect for a headline. In addition, "they" would not let those patients in the clinic to speak up when the police came in causing the number "arrested" to be so high.
On Scene 003
SWAT has chainsaws.
We did a warrant about 3 years ago and the front door was barricaded. The SWAT guys used one of those circular K2 saws to cut it open. I have never seen one used by CPD since however.
I would love a sawzs-all. I would follow a man who owns a sawz-all to the ends of the earth. But then I'm easily impressed. I'm female CPD.
Let'em fly!
Maybe they did a run to the Home Depot at 47th and Western.
C'mon SCC, the guy is a protester at a mental health facility.....do you think he knows the difference between a chainsaw and the Stihl saws we use. As goofy as this department is we don't use chain saws to cut steel and concrete. We use the saws you refer to, jackhammers, and a couple other tools I won't get into especially with NATO right around the corner. We even train for this stuff and luckily have a few "old timers" (20+yrs on) that really know this stuff well. I'm just surprised the protesters were that well organized....hmmm maybe this NATO stuff won't be as easy as the dept. thinks....
We have K-12 saws, the same as fire. Only SWAT and the "cut teams" are trained to use them.
Yeah there is a specialized unit that does that it was in the c.o. book but I didnt even apply you have to be at least 6'6" at least 280 lbs, be willing to wear a black apron, let your hair grow long, and be willing to wear a mask made of leather and you cant speak at all all you can do is nod your head and make sounds.
Wasn't there a guy in 012 tact that used to use a circular saw?
Next time protesters chain yourselfs to the fence you guys erected so the police can chainsaw right through you, then you guys will hit the ghetto lottery.
Why doesn't this fuckwad of a Supt. get some street officers that are well versed in the gang hierarchy to come up with what info to put on IClear to better assist the police? Why have some inside kiss ass, who never made a felony arrest, decide what the working police need? I guess it's a way to keep all these people gainfully employed inside... In the mean time, it's all fucked up.
Chainsaws, who needs chainsaws. They should let you guys use a "percussion device" like the one they used in Philadelphia.
ALl the more reason to close this dump!
It only benefits the bustouts, drunks and losers!
That's what we pay our taxes for!
I say close the shithole!
Da Pelon
I'm more concerned that the little prick is closing half the mental health facilities!Close police stations,cut library hours and union employees.By the time he's done,whats left?
drill a hole through the wall and inject large amounts of tear gas, they will find a way out, or just do like they did in the olden days burn em out
Just leave them in there. If they locked themselves INside, they are no harm to anyone. They have to come out to eat eventually.
-Edison Park Resident
Chainsaws? Hardly. Don't be confused by the name. The news media goofs think the tool used must be a chainsaw because metal chain was cut. The saws used on the metal chains were concrete-cutters with perfectly round, diamond tipped blades.
A chainsaw is portable, handheld and named so because it uses a linked, metal, chain-like loop, with a sharpened edge at each link, which is spun either electrically or by a gas-powered engine in an elliptical pattern to cut organic, porous material like tree branches and tree trunks.
On the small end, concrete cutters are similar in size and portability to a chainsaw, but are equipped with a round diamond blade that is made to cut through solid materials like concrete, metal chains and metal locks.
Using a chain saw on metal chains would cause nothing but failure and multiple injuries. It would be akin to using a glass water tumbler to drive an eight-penny nail.
BTW, fuck the media, TD 9.5 and McLiar.
Won the battle and losing the war.
It's only a matter of time before we ALL will start dealing with the consequences of these mental health clinics being shut down.
This is not improving the safety of the city! Congratulations.
we had a copper in 014, back in da 80's,,,,,,,, his nickname was CHAINSAW............ you don't want to know..... lmao........
In addition, "they" would not let those patients in the clinic to speak up when the police came in causing the number "arrested" to be so high
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Just curious how "they" could prevent anyone from talking to the police in such a situation.
not a cop
In SOS we had cut teams for just that situation and the equipment to do the job. As a matter of fact there was a vehicle that had the appropriate saws and equipment on it. But that was back when we were actually prepared for incidents like that. And oh yeah , if I hear Rahm lie and say he put 600 officers back on the street from DESK DUTY again, when the majority came from MSF and TRU , ill gag. But hey that doesn't have anything to do with the soaring homicides rate, does it.
SWAT has everything...except a Lt. who knows how to manage 39 guys. He's done everything in his power to make the team obsolete. He's a meritorious hack who sucked his way to the top. And I don't mean that in a felatiatic way, he simply SUCKS!
Wouldn't it make more sense to have CFD do it? They have people trained and experienced in doing that stuff routinely. For the number of times this sort of thing will be used, just get on scene training from CFD if they won't do it. It's not rocket science, HBT "should have" breacher training and equipment, where were they?
If the equipment is going to be owned by CPD, how long do you think before it all disappears and/or is broken? Or you've got Burke's, Daley's and Rahm's details doing yardwork?
4/14/2012 01:18:00 AM
Stuck working in 7 and 11, therefore we listen to citywide 1 & zone 6 when in 7 and zone 10 when in 11. No one notified us on cw1 that we were needed.
"One of the protest organizers, Matt Ginsburg, said he and about 20 others had been arrested for trespassing about 1 a.m. Friday...He said the protesters put up barricades in front of the doors made of steel gates, piping and quick-dry cement..."
These are all-purpose professional agitators who show up anywhere they can get attention. They packed the court when that railroad cop who emptied his gun on CPD over a shitty traffic stop was sentenced to 40 years.
Mentally ill people just want some care, they have got enough of a load to carry. They can't think all this out and do all this work. It takes trained outsiders to escalate things into a heavy barricade situation.
Assholes.
Some good old fashioned flammable tear gas, followed by a flash bang would have done a great job.
Rahm is lost just like the guys who barricaded themselves. It's over! WE ARE FINISHED!
Anonymous said...
What was not reported was the fact that the "occupy" people put out fliers recruiting people who were patients there. They promised them a rally to support the cause and FOOD...then they locked (chained doors, etc.) them in the clinic w/ the protesters (without their knowledge). Absolutley shameful that they would exploit the very people they claim to protect for a headline. In addition, "they" would not let those patients in the clinic to speak up when the police came in causing the number "arrested" to be so high.
On Scene 003
4/14/2012 01:33:00 AM
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Hahah...you're a cop and like you never ever heard the lines: I didn't know, it's not my fault, just let me go I didn't do it, before?
Oh please.
Now you want to pull the victim card to push a political agenda?
So what you're saying is they used the people like the mayor and the alderman used the people, 'the children', for their personal agenda. Just following their mentors then I guess. If it's good enough for the mayor we should all try it maybe?
Why should one be anymore shameful than the other. It's just like the mayors speed trap cameras for the children campaign to exploit the children's families under the guise of providing protection.
Pretty shameful that the kids are more likely to be shot then hit by a speeding car don't you think?
Anyways.. people being held without their consent is kidnapping. If this so-call alleged fact is true then we should see some people up on charges soon.
In the meantime be on the lookout for those mental patients that have gone off their meds and don't whine about it since you seem to endorse the actions that put them there.
Closing mental health clinics is a terrible idea. Police will now have to deal with more people with mental health issues and no resources or medication. Get ready to see more citizens attacked for not giving a mentally unstable person a cigarette or money.
Anonymous said...
The Infrastructure ordinance is coming your way folks. The Racoon will be handed $Billions in unbid contracts to hand out to whomever he pleases. I can only guess how many drooling corrupt bastard contractors are waiting at the well to stick their greasy crooked beaks in for a meal. The mayor will appoint a 5 member "panel" who will control and spend this money.
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The name for it is Fascism.
Just what the nations needs an even tighter connection between corporations and the government.
No-bid contracts awarded by the dictatorship in return for campaign donations and tickets to fund raising dinners in one big circle jerk of third world corruption.
Why not just let them be chained to what ever, and then let nature ( big potty) take its course. In a few hours they will be screaming to be let loose.
Then come back the next day and do it.
In the movie, Collateral Damage, Arnold Schwarzenegger uses a concrete cutting saw to the cut the metal locking mechanism on some jail cell doors. He is portrayed to be using the same saw that CPD used in this real-life situation. A chainsaw was not used in the movie or by CPD.
" Chainsaw" was purchased by the city from R.J.Vanecko Mechanical Supply Inc!!!
A chainsaw could not cut through a nail let alone steel bars or concrete
Anonymous said...
I would love a sawzs-all. I would follow a man who owns a sawz-all to the ends of the earth. But then I'm easily impressed. I'm female CPD.
Let'em fly!
4/14/2012 06:03:00 AM
I own a Sawzs-all and several chain saws... Call me....
Wasted effort. 37° at night would have done the trick.
Did the City provide protective eyewear with that chainsaw?
If we can't meet an OSHA standard, how in the heck are we going to meet a NATO standard?
Matt Ginsburg and Andy Thayer and chainsaws. Somehow this all sounds so nice together.
"So what you're saying is they used the people like the mayor and the alderman used the people, 'the children', for their personal agenda. Just following their mentors then I guess. If it's good enough for the mayor we should all try it maybe?"
--4/14/2012 02:59:00 PM
Yeah, "use any tactic," as Occupy keeps hammering and hammering.
Yabble, yabble, yabble.
F__k you, Andy.
"I'm just surprised the protesters were that well organized..."
--4/14/2012 07:27:00 AM
There were probably more "protesters" there than there were actual patients. These people piggyback in on absolutely anything.
In the meantime be on the lookout for those mental patients that have gone off their meds and don't whine about it since you seem to endorse the actions that put them there.
4/14/2012 02:59:00 PM
First time on the blog? The mayor, aldermen, and occupy people using crazy people or children to push a political agenda is constantly being criticized here.
We are all anti-Rahm here asshat, police and others alike. You supporting the same tricks as him just makes you look like just as big an asshole. And try getting charges for unlawful restraint for a protest in cook county. Ain't going to happen. Never said they should/could be charged, just acted like scumbags in how they went about it.
Let's cut the bullshit. I was there and was the actual P.O. that did the cutting.
It was NOT a chain saw.
I used my Dremel.
That is all. Carry on.
Why not just let them be chained to what ever, and then let nature ( big potty) take its course. In a few hours they will be screaming to be let loose.
Then come back the next day and do it.
4/14/2012 03:15:00 PM
send in a few cases of 40 ouncers, just to expedite the matter.
The name for it is Fascism.
Just what the nations needs an even tighter connection between corporations and the government.
No-bid contracts awarded by the dictatorship in return for campaign donations and tickets to fund raising dinners in one big circle jerk of third world corruption.
4/14/2012 03:07:00 PM
catro's got nuthin' on this ballerino boy.
Anonymous said...
The name for it is Fascism.
Just what the nations needs an even tighter connection between corporations and the government.
No-bid contracts awarded by the dictatorship in return for campaign donations and tickets to fund raising dinners in one big circle jerk of third world corruption.
4/14/2012 03:07:00 PM
Oh occupy, occupy why must thou troll here?
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Husqvarna Saws...
Here are a couple pics of the saws that were brought in the academy office last friday morning. I can't swear they were used in the incident referenced, but I do know they were being assembled last friday morning. Coincidence...you decide
Why not just let them be chained to whatever, and then let nature (big potty) take its course? In a few hours, they will be screaming to be let loose.
4/14/2012 03:15:00 PM
From one parent to another, thanks for the chuckle.
I'm more concerned that the little prick is closing half the mental health facilities!Close police stations,cut library hours and union employees.By the time he's done,whats left?
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Whats left will be what the city can afford after paying for all the graft.
4/14 1059am...
I'd like to venture who"guess who"is but there are just too many people out there with the same information about this clown.
Unfortunately GMAC isn't privy to this info.
The bought the chainsaw from a nearby fence.
I think all the mentals should take their chainsaws to city hall and show them how it's done.
I save my "assholes" for the noninsane.
"any motorized saw is a chain saw"??? No, any saw whose blade teeth are attached to a circulating chain is a chain saw, other blades or setups (circulator or reciprocating) are NOT chain saws...and you made this bonehead remark after criticizing others - idiots
"HBT should have cut teams, where were they"??? We no longer have an HBT team, but it was the SWAT unit that did the cuts...not with a chain saw, but with a circular saw...people post such emphatic comments yet are dead wrong, inflammatory, shit-starting idiots
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