Rahm Begins Backtracking
- Under pressure from parents groups opposed to a 7½-hour school day, Mayor Rahm Emanuel said today he is scaling back his proposal to a 7-hour day for public elementary schools next fall.
The school day would still be more than an hour longer than the current 5-hour, 45-minute day for most elementary schools. But it's a departure from Emanuel's stated goal of making the Chicago Public Schools day among the longest in the U.S.
Most city high schools would still be extended to 7½ hours under the mayor’s new plan; although one day during the week would be shortened by 75 minutes.
Needless to say, the teachers union is gloating a bit:
- Chicago Teachers Union President Karen Lewis said this about Emanuel's proposal:
"Once again, the Chicago Teachers Union has been proven correct. The longer school day is a political slogan and not an education plan. Parents, teachers and community leaders across Chicago have been unanimous in saying we want a better school day for our parents, not just a longer one. Now that the mayor is starting to listen to parents, teachers and research regarding the pitfalls of the longer school day pushed in school districts across this country, it is now time that he use both ears to hear everything we're saying about the types of schools our children deserve. It is not the length of time, but the quality of time that truly matters here."
The union has been calling for smaller class sizes and for non-core subjects like art and foreign language for all students. Lewis complained there is still no plan on what a longer day will look like, just numbers.
The biggest number Rahm is striving to bring down is the number of CPS students shot, hence the extended babysitting provided to the parent(s). Unfortunately, most shootings occur during the 2100-0300 window when school wouldn't be in session anyway.
And also as stumbling block, Rahm is having a hard time selling the "longer hours for no extra pay" angle. We can't think of a court in the land that would uphold keeping teachers around without paying them for their time. It just doesn't seem likely. Indentured servitude went out before the Civil War. Slavery shortly afterward.
Labels: city politics
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
77 Comments:
This is just plain stupid. I attended a Chicago Public /School and our school day was five hours long. Three hours in the AM and 2 hours in the PM. We learned!!! Extra hours will not help these kids. It will however, keep them off the streets a little longer.
Uh-oh, now we're gonna have to reprogram all those speed trap cameras to the new hours.
Back the little raccoon in the corner and he will begin eating his fingers, or whats left of them.
rahm wants teachers to be paid according to the test scores of their pupils--- so how about rahmbo gets paid according to his management of the city of chicago--- HE GETS AN F- 700 million dollar deficit at cps, cta on the verge of bankruptcy again, unpaid pension obligations which our yet to be born grandkids will be paying for 50 years from now--- he was in the papers touting a 7 billion dollar infrastructure improvement, where's the money coming from--- he's got way bigger problems than a dust up with karen lewis and the teachers union...
No matter what is done with the school system, if parents don't instill value in education- students will not learn
What value does education have in the welfare class? None, when the government provides ALL financial assistance.
Education is not needed because jobs are not needed when rec'ing public aid.
This is Rahm's M.O. he makes you believe that he's going to have a longer school day, the bluff is real big so when he "does give in". he makes you feel good about yourself. which he wasn't going to do anyway!!! anyway! Obama promised to close GITMO, guess what its still there, but he let you libs bitch it out of your system. Oh and nobody works for free in this town, ask state rep. derrick smith. hasn't shown up to work but still getting paid.
OT: More money being given away by incompetent Cook County juries.
http://www.wgntv.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-cta-station-crash-verdict-20120411,0,4547292.story
Lights are on...but nobody will be home here for long!
Chicago neighborhoods getting new streetlights
Chicago will lose its rusty amber glow. Literally.
The city is replacing those familiar -- and not-so-warm -- amber streetlights with brighter, white-glow energy-efficient streetlights in more than 200 blocks of residential streets
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/chicago/chicago-neighborhoods-getting-streetlights-132043575.html
How about keeping your CAMPAIGN PROMISE of "SHARED SACRIFICE" Mr Emmanuel...Why does the City STILL have 50 ALDERMAN sir?
"...most shootings occur during the 2100-0300 window when school wouldn't be in session anyway."
Will the speed cameras be in operation during these times?
At least if there was a drive-by near a school, the city would make a few $$$ from the vehicle's owner!
(Uh, that'd be sarcasm, in case there's any doubt)
You think he didn't win? Start out with a larger amount until it was comprimised to what you wanted to comfortably walk away with. Has no one ever sold anything?
The most dangerous person is one that has nothing to lose...
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http://www.suntimes.com/news/brown/11806795-452/cops-hungry-to-cite-food-trucks.html
Are coppers really citing food trucks? I know the "Chubby Wieners" truck is copper friendly. As is their store.
What gives?
To: Sgt
From: Some under appreciated P.O.'s
We have been working our asses off for you. How about realizing that; and in turn, start taking better care of your grunts.
Gee Whiz! The Racoon takes one half hour off of his original plan? A litle half step backward for the pint sized creep. The Racoon just doesn't know when to stop. He has pissed off just about everyone in this town and just keeps fucking with us. If the election for mayor were held today this asshole would be sent packing back to Washington. Once there Michelle Obama would stuff him inside one of those little Easter eggs and bury him on the South lawn of the White House...permanently!
I've heard this " model " for the 7 hour day that he's taking from some east coast cities has been a huge failure out there and costs the school districts 100's of millions of dollars lost every year....and i wouldn't be surprised to see a crook county court tell the teachers to work longer days for no extra money....
In the end, if this goes through, it looks like Rahm might be getting exactly what he wants and the teachers will just be getting it "in the end".
http://lisatortorello.blogspot.com/2012/04/rahm-says-he-listened-to-parents-of-cps.html
RIP PO Billy Erickson. Even though I just met him this year in 8, he seemed like a great guy who was overwhelmed by his troubles. Please everyone reading this- if you are depressed talk to someone. No matter how sad you feel now, someone you know cares about you and would help you in a heartbeat if they only knew how you felt.
My wife works in CPS. She said they have had to spend bunch of time because downtown was forcing them to get ready for the longer school day. So there was more waste of time and money just to backtrack. Also both of the schools she works in both have 7 hour days already in existence. These schools are both top ten in the state. There is heavy parent involvement and fundraisers for extra school programs. Maybe this is where some CPS money should go to help other schools. They should look at the schools that are actually succeeding and look and those models instead on trying to pick things out of thin air. Similar to CPD’s compstat?
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Check out the Ballerino's youtube video on retirement system reform.It's on the front page of the city website. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb2pcYgkX3c
Supposedly, they have done nothing wrong. What went wrong is that we have leaders that offered pension benefits and made promises that were not based on the real math on how much money would be coming in and how much money would be going out the door.
This is accessible to the public along with a website so that our pensions are "transparent." I don't know why, but at first glance, as a retiree, it scares the hell out of me.
HE (JC) has not included funding for his school day. Additional prep teachers are mandated with this longer day. The longer lunch and mandatory recess needs staffing and HE has not given a budget or any note of funding. In fact HE said there will be cuts in funding on the existing schedule. It truly is a shame that because certain sects of society cannot and have not taught their children right from wrong, not taught them the importance of getting a good education, not fed or parented their children that we the tax payers have to fund their longer day in school. I see a tax increase coming. The public schools in our city that are thriving and doing a great job should be models for the schools that are failing. Not so much as to how it is taught but more emphasis on what is expected of the student and the parent(s)and personal responsibility to themselves and society. Feed your children at home. Make sure they do their homework. Read to them (control the jokes) etc. Schools are educational institutions NOT social services or a boarding school paid for by responsible parents and tax payers.
Please, you ask for more and when you get less, which is what he probably wanted in the first place, you look like the great compromiser. The guys a creep, but he's not stupid.
The school day is a little short at 5 3/4 hrs. Here is an idea Rahm. Extend by 1/2 hr, 8:45-3:15, eliminate all these stupid inservice and report card days and tie it into a raise for the teachers. You know, the one you screwed them out of last time.
The difference is that some kids have parents who give a shit about them while most in the CPS dont.
That was his plan all along. I say high, you say low...
What does a CPS Grad call any suburban or private school grad? Boss.
Try to find a school district within 100 miles that has a school day shorter than 7 hours. Only one, CPS.
Try to find a big city district that pays as highly as CPS, not in this time zone.
Try to find a CPS employee that sends their kids to CPS... good luck!
Maybe CPD should get U of I to conduct a study like this for them. It should help the teachers and I imagine some of it would carry over to police work.
http://www.ler.illinois.edu/labor/images/Teachers%20Activity-Time%20Study%202012%20(1)-Final.pdf
I didn't grow up or go to school in Chicago. I had to go to school for 7 1/2 hours a day in elementary and High School. It's called preparing you for life. And the teachers can cry me a river. Let's see....work 5 1/2 hours, 45 minutes of which is lunch break, and have all holidays, spring break and summers off. Chicago teachers are among the most well paid in the state. I'm sorry. I don't feel bad if they are asked to work an extra hour.
What is Rahm going to do when 10,000 people surround 4228 N. Hermitage in May? From now on Rahms house is to be known as " The Hillel-amo".
Let's get something straight. Rahm is nothing but a slick politician. He didn't want to increase it to 7 1/2 hrs a day. He only asked for it so that when the people complained he would back down a little and look as thou he comprimised with the public.
He did the same with the increase in water tax, increase in the vehicle tax, the time on the speed cameras around schools & parks, and a few other things. He ask for a lot knowing that people will complain and then he will give what the people want so that he trys to make himself look like he is willing to work with the next person. He is a master manipulator, so don't forget it.
But in my eyes he is the BIGGEST JAGBAG that we could of gotten in this case.
Anonymous said...
Gee Whiz! The Racoon takes one half hour off of his original plan? A litle half step backward for the pint sized creep. The Racoon just doesn't know when to stop. He has pissed off just about everyone in this town and just keeps fucking with us. If the election for mayor were held today this asshole would be sent packing back to Washington. Once there Michelle Obama would stuff him inside one of those little Easter eggs and bury him on the South lawn of the White House...permanently!
4/11/2012 02:42:00 AM
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WHAT? You must be smoking so bad stuff. If you really think that the shepple of chicago wouldn't vote him in again if the election was held today, you are sadly mistaken. The citizens that go out and vote are too stupid to realize that he is full of shyt. Hey he fooled them all the last time & he could do it again.
Hey didn't he already add 1000 more cops to the street?sarcasm
Rahm is playing the aldercreatures & the voters the way he wants! Just like the raise in city stickers for vehicles over 4000lbs, he "gives in" & just raises the sticker price. The alercreaturse look good for going against him (Ha! Ha!) The school cameras times he gives in again & the fine citizens of Chicago & our elected officials again state that they stood up to him. Again Ha! Ha! Now comes the school hours that he wants to extend. He gives in & goes to 7 hours, which is 1hr 15min of Extra Babysitting for the teachers. He & the Bd of Ed still have not come up with a plan of what will be taught, if any subjects will have extended classroom times & most important how will the board PAY for these changes? They are already seven hundred million dollars in the hole! Hello Taxpayers!!!
Don't forget that Rahm also has to re-negotiate all of the city's employyes contracts. Rahm don't forget to pay into the pension funds, on time would be nice!!
A disgruntled retired Police Detective from Area Five
Effective next period(allegedly) 165 officers from gang enforcement, 72 officers from gang investigations and 45 officers from narcotics section to be sent to patrol. The vacancies in those units will then be eliminated. The officers will have top three picks of what district they want to go on and what watch until they are reshuffled at bid time. The cuts will be determined by seniority. Gang investigations will be based on the old gang investigator where each area will have two teams of 10-15 coppers.. so it will be gangs south, central and north. They will still do the same thing they do now and will still be based out of homan square. Gang enforcement will have the same roll they have now and so will narcotics... they will just have to do it with less. Tell me rahm, what will you do when you cant steal manpower from units anymore??? Pretty soon your gonna have to hire people. look for the changes to come next period.. although, the guy I talked to at homan square said the details may only be released next period and no changes may be made until after the nato summit. more smoke and mirrors people.
Nice try. These people are not going anywhere. The sup loves these units and loves what they have been doing. If he could he would like to expand them but can't because of manpower issues in the districts. Maybe your are mad because you can't get in but stop the bullshit rumors.
The armor shows a chink
Guess what?
Your crime stats are showing General.
Why does Rahm continue to refuse to save the children?
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Gang of girls & boys rob, attack victim in Lincoln Square
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A group of young offenders robbed and beat a victim in Chicago’s North Side, Lincoln Square neighborhood, said police.
At approximately 8:36 p.m., a robbery was reported on the 5000 block of North Western Avenue, between Winnemac and Argyle.
According investigators, five females and five males on bikes, all believed to be around 15-years-old, robbed and battered a victim at the North Western Avenue location.
One female suspect, who was described as an African American girl wearing a black hoodie and white shorts, was said to be the aggressor, according to police.
http://www.chicagonewsreport.com/2012/04/gang-of-girls-boys-rob-attack-victim-in.html
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8.36 PM in Lincoln Sq. (Sigh) how's a seven hour school day going to fix this?
Mobbing season is upon us.
How many pins do you need to stick into the CTA train station locations on a map before something is done?
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A man dialed 911 after two thugs threatened him near a Far North Side CTA train station, said police.
Around 10 p.m., an assault was reported at the Jarvis Red Line station at 1523 West Jarvis Avenue in Rogers Park.
According to the complainant, two male blacks on bicycles were circling him like sharks, while they repeatedly asked him for money and cigarettes.
more >> http://www.chicagonewsreport.com/2012/04/thug-intimidation-near-rogers-park.html
Video -- Recent altercation on the CTA demonstrative of why Chicago needs concealed carry
Rahm and the General don't care. It's not their wives or daughters, friends or family members surrounded by thugs and being berated.
Anonymous said...
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http://www.suntimes.com/news/brown/11806795-452/cops-hungry-to-cite-food-trucks.html
Are coppers really citing food trucks? I know the "Chubby Wieners" truck is copper friendly. As is their store.
What gives?
4/11/2012 01:53:00 AM
Revenue and Revenue. And I forgot, put those without whack out of business and issue licenses to those who kiss the Flaming Tutu's ring.
He's going to use the same ploy with us---go overboard cutting benefits, and get us to agree to what he wanted in the first place. Doesn't take an Einstein to figure out it's coming to a contract near you!
The Racoon is very predictable and every photo he takes is obviously staged..."racoon with praying hands...don't leave my city" etc... Let's see if the Racoon can predict what is coming in May and the SURPRISE he will get when his own people turn on him. 4228 N Hermitage is his home address and this is public information...
And also as stumbling block, Rahm is having a hard time selling the "longer hours for no extra pay" angle. We can't think of a court in the land that would uphold keeping teachers around without paying them for their time.
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He believes he's the "Emperor" of Shitcago. Teachers should be thrilled to follow the Emperors wishes.
Watch for him to start wearing a Toga that resembles a long TuTu.
As long as these feral students remain feral, 24 hr school days won't tame them. Years of incarceration don't seem to work either. Lobotomies may work. You'll still have to care for them but we do that now. At least they'll be civilized !!!
Don't think for a second that he didn't originally make his proposed school day longer than he really wanted. It's a tactic he uses so that down the road he can "compromise" to show he's not unreasonable. When all along he's still getting exactly what he wanted.
Arrogant, egotistical dictator.
chicago school are becoming a daycare and a indoctrinating center for the liberals social experiment. the government will raise your kid while mommy and daddy are working in a factory..
American kids are among the most under educated in the world. There is a reason why we have the president we do and politicians we do. Extra hours wont help kids? Average american's work day is 9.5 hours. How are we preparing kids for the future? By applauding their failures in academics and sporta? Blaming it on some made up mental disease? Get a clue folks. CPS does NOT even meet the national average. Teaching kids responsibilty and discipline are very important, along with familt time of course. But so are academics. I sure don't want my daughter be compared to some englewood hood rat. Stats and facts matter people!
Anonymous said...
To: Sgt
From: Some under appreciated P.O.'s
We have been working our asses off for you. How about realizing that; and in turn, start taking better care of your grunts.
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Hahaha!!!! You stupid chump(s). When, oh when, will you idiot hairgels realize that supervisors (as a whole) don't give a rats ass about you? You humped to make some Meritcloutorious a**hole look good and bought him/her a little more time before more shit rolls downhill onto them.
Read your own post, particularly the part where you say "working our asses off for you". A GOOD Stupidvisor would occasionally remind the troops that we work WITH one another. Fuck working FOR anybody but yourself and your family. This job, the "bosses" and the citizens at large can blow me - Ill do what's best for ME and the rest of the lowly blue shirts that are busting their asses day in and day out.
You want the respect of the Sarge? Make him earn it FROM YOU. Don't create numbers and revenue for him/her because I GUARANTEE you that they won't even remember your name when the beefs come down. Grow up, Hair Gel, and be your own man! There isn't shit they can do to you other than adjusting your hours a couple either way and bouncing you thru different partners - (smart coppers would document such going on to use in a discrimination suit at a later time, but I digress).
Morale of the story: F*CK the sergeant and any other boss that you feel obligated to perform like a circus seal for. Those early ducks and little plays (which it seems you ain't getting anymore) are NOT worth your reputation, your financial status or possibly your freedom. And it also makes you the equivalent of what some might refer to as a "bitch". Don't be anyone's bitch, officer.
Here ends today's lesson on police life.
dont despair when time comes they will all vote democratic. he knows what side their bread is buttered.the tax payers will be the victims, oh happy day.
What does a CPS Grad call any suburban or private school grad? Boss.
Try to find a school district within 100 miles that has a school day shorter than 7 hours. Only one, CPS.
Try to find a big city district that pays as highly as CPS, not in this time zone.
Try to find a CPS employee that sends their kids to CPS... good luck!
4/11/2012 09:55:00 AM
Gimme a break. I spent more time in parochial school than I did in the public school system and even that was by choice. First off I went to college and high school with private school students, when I wasn't STILL a private school student myself. There students were no smarter. The guarantees at private school are generally more control, more discipline, and a better learning environment. Great curriculum and great teachers is not a given and if you don't agree...go ahead and tell me that all private high schools are the same. Tell me that there isn't a difference between St. Ignatius or Morgan Park Academy compared to some other schools that don't have the same reputation. You're an idiot if you believe private school will turn your kid into something he/she already aint. It does provide a better environment to succeed but being enrolled in itself won't do it. Funny thing, a co-worker of mine went to Fenwick and she was just telling me about the idiots that were in school with her so you can beat it with your nonsense. By the way, my father in law is a CPS teacher and all of his children have college degrees, one finished with grad school, one finished this year, and the other left a successful career to be a stay at home mom...all CPS grads.
Does anyone know the legit Zimmerman website for legal contributions?
My house and a couple of my neighbors did their part, we refused to participate in the Census. I won't help this city get an extra penny. Two years I'm gone and you hair gels can keep the newest future Detroit.
It's for the children! Why won't you beleive me?
He thinks we are all stupid.
Many teachers are retiring because of Rahm's smokescreen bullying tactics.
He will then replace those teachers with those who will be loyal to Rahm. He is building up his patronage army.
OT- The special prosecutor in the Trayvon Martin case is now charging Zimmerman with 2nd degree murder and he's been taken into custody. She says right in her public statement that she did not bow to public pressure to arrest and charge Zimmerman. Yeah right.
Just saw the post about the mobbing in Lincoln square. I live in Lincoln Square. Please oh please mob me you little animals!
Heard murder rate is up 60% for the first three months of the year. How long until 9.5 lets his bitch go? I'm guessing right after NATO. According to people who've been to CON-stat meetings, McMouthy is getting awfully purple-faced, pounding on the desk and whatnot. I hope a vein in his head pops soon!
I did NOT think it would ever, in my career, to have a worse superintendent than Jfled in charge, but man, I was wrong!
Thought you may be interested in posting this. Shows you the gross incompetence of Cook County.
In a remarkable admission that Cook County can't be trusted to properly run itself, Sheriff Dart and President Preckwinkle approve the hiring of a private firm to crack down on medical abuse. Employees who call in sick will have to report to this hired third party vendor.
http://19thwardpolitics.blogspot.com/
George will need every cent he can get. After being indicted for 2nd Degree murder the odds are he will do some heavy time. Just what the Black extortionist called for. But this is only the beginning folks. These assholes want to create a "protected clsass" of people that nobody can fuck with no way. This country is already doomed. Just like Chicago.
To 04:00 pm
Well said Office but this is a different breed of police so I really don't think he'll get it.
But, well said.
I/F KMA
"We simply wanted an arrest, and we got it," Fulton said. "Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Jesus ... A heart has no color. It's not white, it's not black—it's red. And I just want to thank you from my heart to your heart."
Isn't red a color?
Anonymous said...
The school day is a little short at 5 3/4 hrs. Here is an idea Rahm. Extend by 1/2 hr, 8:45-3:15, eliminate all these stupid inservice and report card days and tie it into a raise for the teachers. You know, the one you screwed them out of last time.
The voice of sanity!
Anonymous said...
I didn't grow up or go to school in Chicago. I had to go to school for 7 1/2 hours a day in elementary and High School. It's called preparing you for life. And the teachers can cry me a river. Let's see....work 5 1/2 hours, 45 minutes of which is lunch break, and have all holidays, spring break and summers off. Chicago teachers are among the most well paid in the state. I'm sorry. I don't feel bad if they are asked to work an extra hour.
"I didn't grow up or go to school in Chicago." Clearly.
The campaign to stop OBAMA, RAHM, THE LIBERAL MEDIA, CROOK COUNTY POLITICIANS starts now, start recruiting friends to vote ROMNEY, ANYBODY other than these people. Obama will be a one term president, NULLIFYING RAHM, and sending him packing. But it won't be over, we must stand together to rid this city of the stranglehold of DALEY CRONIS. No more MACHINE POLITICIANS, WE NEED NEW CANDIDATES UP AND DOWN THE WHOLE LIST!!!! Let's get it together before it's too late.
gimme a break.... If I had the means to send my kids to a private school and didnt well shame on you.
Shooting in Lakeview:
http://discussions.chicagotribune.com/20/chinews/chi-man-wounded-in-driveby-in-lakeview-neighborhood-20120411/10
I find it odd that after this article went viral via Facebook and Twitter, that the Trib decided to change the headline from Buena Park to Lakeview. The same Lakeview that is home to many wealthy homeowners and young Midwestern transplants moving here after college in the coming months, who might read the same headline and be alarmed.
Its as if someone from city hall kindly suggested that the Trib retitle the article so as not to affect its own moneyed interests.
Hail Seiser! He really does "Run it"..just saw the lawsuit where he is sueing the CPD for $50.00 and Debra Kirby for $200,000 (punitive)..You Rock!
The Special Prosecutor in the Martin-Zimmerman case is an elected DA in the Jacksonville Fla. area. She is up for election this November. You can bet she had to come up with some steep charge to save herself from getting dumped. I am wondering where they will be able to find an impartial jury to hear this case. Alaska? What a fucking joke! Do you have anything to say before we oind you guilty Mr. Zimmerman? Modern day American Lynching.
As chief of staff for Barry, Rahm bent over backwards to succumb to the unions. people need to remind 9.5 where his priorities lie. or at least Barry's..........
at around 2022 hrs the 004th district was baraged by phone calls of a meteor crashing in wolf lake in Hegewisch - a cpd officer observed something with a brilliant green brightness by wolf lake-CFD and CPD helicopters were sent to scene to look for a downed aircraft. some hegewisch citizens witnesed the event also.
helicopters in area around hegewisch looking for a ufo
To 10 43 am
Don't feel bad, it is about city workers being bullied and taking in the rear. Don't worry, nobody will "feel Bad" for us either moron. Hope your not a Detective.
Anonymous said...
My wife works in CPS. She said they have had to spend bunch of time because downtown was forcing them to get ready for the longer school day. So there was more waste of time and money just to backtrack. Also both of the schools she works in both have 7 hour days already in existence. These schools are both top ten in the state. There is heavy parent involvement and fundraisers for extra school programs. Maybe this is where some CPS money should go to help other schools. They should look at the schools that are actually succeeding and look and those models instead on trying to pick things out of thin air. Similar to CPD’s compstat?
4/11/2012 08:28:00 AM
If it is a top ten school, then it is a magnet school. The school succeeds due to the very intelligent students. You cannot use a magnet school as a model to other schools.
Anonymous said...
What does a CPS Grad call any suburban or private school grad? Boss.
Try to find a school district within 100 miles that has a school day shorter than 7 hours. Only one, CPS.
Try to find a big city district that pays as highly as CPS, not in this time zone.
Try to find a CPS employee that sends their kids to CPS... good luck!
4/11/2012 09:55:00 AM
Most suburban schools are less than 7 hours. Six to 6.5 hours is the norm. Some high schools have an extra period for advanced Jrs/Srs (usually an extra science class) This will make the school day longer than 7 hours, but for only a select few students.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I didn't grow up or go to school in Chicago. I had to go to school for 7 1/2 hours a day in elementary and High School. It's called preparing you for life. And the teachers can cry me a river. Let's see....work 5 1/2 hours, 45 minutes of which is lunch break, and have all holidays, spring break and summers off. Chicago teachers are among the most well paid in the state. I'm sorry. I don't feel bad if they are asked to work an extra hour.
"I didn't grow up or go to school in Chicago." Clearly.
4/11/2012 08:40:00 PM
I hope you drown in your river. When you end your tour nof duty, the work stops. Teachers have at least two hours of grades and paperwork every night plus weekend work. They now have to work 10 extra days a year and 2 hours extra every day without any adjustments to their contract. Wait till the CPD has a contract negiotation. At least the teachers have the balls to stand up and fight. I wonder if the school you went to had the same problems teachers face today in Chicago public schools you asshat.
OT:
I cover a CPS School in 002..and saw a Revenue bike patrol pull into the employee parking lot and start checking vehicles....
They are now ticketing for 'no city sticker' for ALL CPS Employee vehicles...regardless of vehicle registration because CPS employees are City Workers regardless of Residency Exemption.
To the person who said "Teachers cry me a river about the long day". Let me see you work in a school in the inner city. no parent support, no resources, but you go to work everyday because you love what you do and let me add I am a teacher and I don't work 7.5 hours a day I work about 15. Trust me its not crying its a system that is set up to fail. I don't complain about the extra money but I enjoy having a shorter school day so I can have the time to actually prepare for the day because we do not get that during work time. People need to walk in the shoes of a teacher before they comment. I do agree with what another person said about teachers being like cops because I have had to break up nasty fights,etc. Support the CPS teachers; it is not a cake walk job.
Anonymous said...
My wife works in CPS. She said they have had to spend bunch of time because downtown was forcing them to get ready for the longer school day. So there was more waste of time and money just to backtrack. Also both of the schools she works in both have 7 hour days already in existence. These schools are both top ten in the state. There is heavy parent involvement and fundraisers for extra school programs. Maybe this is where some CPS money should go to help other schools. They should look at the schools that are actually succeeding and look and those models instead on trying to pick things out of thin air. Similar to CPD’s compstat?
4/11/2012 08:28:00 AM
If it is a top ten school, then it is a magnet school. The school succeeds due to the very intelligent students. You cannot use a magnet school as a model to other schools.
See how hard it is to get people to do their homework. One of my wife's schools is a magnet. Magnet schools are 100% lottery. There is no testing done to determine who gets into the school. It is ALL luck of the draw. There is a significant and important difference between magnet schools and charter schools. Charter schools can and do pick and choose their students. They also "weed out" problematic students in order to raise test scores. The other school is a neighborhood school. The schools my wife works at can and should be used as a model to other schools. If you are spending money on a model it looks as though putting money towards more rounded education will help. There will always be exceptions. Just like exempts.
I didn't grow up or go to school in Chicago. I had to go to school for 7 1/2 hours a day in elementary and High School. It's called preparing you for life. And the teachers can cry me a river. Let's see....work 5 1/2 hours, 45 minutes of which is lunch break, and have all holidays, spring break and summers off. Chicago teachers are among the most well paid in the state. I'm sorry. I don't feel bad if they are asked to work an extra hour.
4/11/2012 10:43:00 AM
Any good/caring teacher you talk to would say they don't mind working the extra hour. They do mind when ignorant people make stupid comments that teachers only work 51/2 hour days and get a 45 minute lunch. If you ever knew a good teacher, you would know that they often work 9 + hour days, rarely work less than 8 hour days and spend their off time doing various things to plan their curriculum. They do mind being taken for granted by a public who doesn't understand or appreciate the work they do day in and day our for other people's children.
Have some respect . The teachers deserve a fair contract and input on the longer day agenda that has been thrust down their collective throats.
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