New Strategy? (UPDATED - Gang Audit?)
Driving in tonight, we heard McNewGuy talking about some new strategy he was implementing in response to the uptick in shootings centered around warm weekend weather. It involved something about actually talking to the people working the street, cops in close proximity to the gangs, front line intelligence.
Unfortunately, we can't find the audio on WBBM's radio website. Anyone have any idea where it might be? It sounded somehow exactly like what our readers have been preaching here since McOutsider arrived.
No mentioning manpower though.
UPDATE: Ah yes, here it is. Everything old is new again:
Unfortunately, we can't find the audio on WBBM's radio website. Anyone have any idea where it might be? It sounded somehow exactly like what our readers have been preaching here since McOutsider arrived.
No mentioning manpower though.
UPDATE: Ah yes, here it is. Everything old is new again:
- After a violent weekend during which five people were killed and more than 20 hurt in separate shootings, Chicago Police Supt. Garry McCarthy said Monday the police department is implementing a new gangs strategy using intelligence on the ground level.
"We are conducting gang audits in each district, which means we are sitting down with a map, we are sitting down with the officers who work on those beats," McCarthy told ABC7. "We are sitting down with our intelligence personnel and we're mapping out who are the gang members, what turfs do they claim is theirs and who are they in conflict with."
Ah, yes. The old "map with the push pins" strategy. We haven't seen that one in a few years. Next comes the color-coded map with all the gang territories looking so pretty. And you know what comes next, right?
- McCarthy says the strategy is about responding to incidents before the retaliation begins.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
174 Comments:
You should give him a chance. I mean after the countless other failed plans Mcstupid came up with this might be the one that works. Hahahaha
It also sounds EXACTLY like what Gang Specialists used to do, but let's reinvent the wheel and claim it as your own, McNothingNew.
Let's just keep talking about it and maybe it will all go away, close your eyes now, see it's all gone!
Big City Police
The city might think about buying some heavy duty assault vehicles, attack helicopters, and plenty of barbed wire. This will be a very hot long summer. If this spring is any indication of what the animals might be doing this summer it should be a record breaker.
Some new order supposed to come out about all this. It entails patrol(beat guy) doing all the wonder work to better the community like gang intelligence, caps, gap, dibs, all kinds of other fancy sounding crap. At the same time answer baby momma drama, holding offenders and barking dogs. I say skip the lube and ram it harder! One job at a time and i'm taking my time.
Ch 7 may have a tape of it. It was on earlier in the day.
"Unfortunately, we can't find the audio on WBBM's radio website. "
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Look for it under "Stand-Up Comedy" !!!
The city leaders created this Sanctuary city culture, nurtured it and have let it grown to the point that it's now imbedded and a disaster.
You're gonna need much more than a fancy MBA marketing Broken Windows slogan to fix it.
Assuming that the leaders want it fix and don't have a plan to create a crisis so that they can use the crisis for personal gain and campaign contributions.
New Strategy=Same shit,different day repackaged. Yawn.
Maybe the mayor will offer them temporary $11.85/hour welding jobs WITH food stamp application help if they give up their six to seven figure tax free drug turf as a illicit drug distributor?
Maybe that'll work.
Why these people don't want to buy into a system that makes false promises of healthcare, living wages, retirement funding and pensions is beyond me ya know?
They need to work and earn that $11.85/hour and save for their futures..ya know?
They need to pay taxes to fund the boomers pensions, fund the teachers, fund the public safety services, fund EVERYTHING...so when it comes time to collect on their benefits and the political promises they can be bent over the table like everyone else.
Yeah..that's the ticket.
Think it'll work? I doubt it.
I heard the same report from WBBM but it sounds like McNewGuy is going to do the same stuff we were doing years ago when at roll call the watch commander would tell us who and what got shot or beaten up while we were all off duty.
Another great plan that no one else has ever thought about before.
I see the crystal ball unit coming back sooner then later also.
I saw the interviewon TV. I believe it was channel 7 or 5. Yes, he said that stuff.
Sure hope they smart enough to bring back safe city.
You know extra police in high crime areas on the weekends.
Seems like its due.
Maybe channel 7 or channel 9's website. Both showed the clips on the evening news at 4:30, 5 and 6 pm. After, the nonsense from McLiar, stating how we're going to fix it all using new strategy, reporters standing outside of 35th street, stated once again that crime is down!!!! IDIOTS, IDIOTS, IDIOTS!
I hope the new strategy was better than Macs first one!
Dismantle all the units.
Piss off all the working police.
And after that ....Make them drive for an hour to a south or north side district that they dont want to be in! And cant get out of!
Great Morale Booster BOSS!
I saw it on the news this evening. Supt said that the dept is going to sit down with the cops who work the beat every day, and write down which gang is operating in what location of the city, who are the gang members and gang leaders, what crimes the gang is committing, etc. Then the dept will take all of that intelligence and create maps and charts and reports. This "new" gang strategy will help the dept stop gang crimes.
Genius. Absolute genius.
Interesting read on pensions
http://policepay.blogspot.com/2012/01/big-lie-pensions-are-bankrupting-us.html?m=1
He thinks he'll be able to mine gang data from the guys pushing beat cars in the ghettos. Too bad there's glaring flaws with this latest knee jerk, grasping-at-straws approach: 1- most po's in the ghetto districts are hairgels that haven't been around long enough to know how to do most things proficiently on this job, let alone know who the players or problems are specific to any given area - three years in the Duece ain't shit kid, so save the war stories for about 10 more years down the road, 2- these same officers are too busy running from job to job to job to have any free time to learn the who's-who and ins & outs of the gang players, conflicts, etc, 3- the players and citizens in general are ever less than cooperative than ever with giving up information for obvious reasons, hatred and mistrust of the police just to state the obvious.
I won't even begin to address the fact that 90%+ of these gang "specialists" and members of other "illustrious" teams don't know their asses from a hole in the ground, but are assigned to places like this because of a phone call. Just like merit supervisors ruined that aspect of this job, so too has diapers working tact, gangs, narcotics etc ruined any real type of intelligence gathering and subsequent police work. This is the Entitled CPD generation producing what they think is police work: DOPWs, pissers and two bag weed arrests - even Easter Sunday in 007 wasn't off limits for a handful of handjobs that arrested the usual suspects for a variety of MCC violations when it's a traditional day of rest for the men and ladies in uniform. The occasional gun pinch or half-assed S/W that results in anything bigger than what a good traffic stop will yield is nothing to bolster the "elite" moniker often attached to these units (insert finger down throat here).
McCarthy is desperate and grasping at anything to avoid further embarrassment for both himself and his Puppetmaster 9.5. If Garry thinks hes going to gather intelligence from the pool of nitwits that came thru the Academy in the last decade or so, hes in for quite the rude awakening. Newsflash, McStupe, this is an Epic Fail in progress.
New strategy:
Tow an iceberg into Lake Michigan to keep the weather from being so "hot".
Change the calendar so that we no longer have Saturdays and Sundays. That's right. Only 5 day weeks, Monday through Friday. Guess what? No more stories going around the country about what a bloody weekend there was in Chicago. Another problem solved!
Make it illegal to use iPods or iPhones in public. Now when people get them snatched by roving bands of mongrels, McNutJob can say that if the iPerson wasn't breaking the law to begin with, his iThing would never have been stolen. No crime, no report. "Overall crime" continues to fall under McSavior!
Use the Trayvon Martin strategy of crime reporting... Just have the media totally lie about all aspects of crime. What could go wrong with that strategy?
Put everyone behind bars that Al (not so) Sharpton, Jesse "cut off his nuts" Jackson and Phather Phaker Phleger thinks is a criminal and let them be the targets of all the Federal false arrest lawsuits, instead of the police.
And so begins the new strategy of how McClueless plans to reinvent the law enforcement wheel. What could go wrong that isn't already screwed up?
Heres an idea , lock up gangbangers . Juveniles are accumulating 25-30 arrests with amazing regularity before anything happens in court , and even then, there is tremendous pressure to NOT lock them up.They are given chance after chance of supervision, probation, intensive probation, electronic monitoring , non- secure detention alternatives .Probation and some of the judges know who the bad guys are , but we constantly hear about using detention alternatives , disproportionate representation of minorities , etc , etc.The county seems obsessed with not holding delinquents in custody , but rather to keep coming up with new programs and alternatives.It's even getting harder and harder to violate their probations once they're actually on probation. We can no longer be proactive with the kids who are really bad , but rather the attitude seems to be that they have to be caught doing something really bad before anything happens. As someone who has been doing this for a long time , I have seen tremendous changes with these juveniles and it's scary . They are learning that they can be criminals and be held totally non- accountable.They have no respect for police , judges , the court or probation. When they do finally get convicted , I'm noticing more and more of them are fighting with the police during the arrest.There is no doubt in everyones mind that this will be the worst summer in recent memory.
McOutsider. Lmao.
Check the headline in the New York Times.Wow! The killing of Police officers in the good old US is up twenty Five percent.
In the garbage with the rest of his nonsense.
It's a new order coming out entitled something like "Gang Violence Reduction Strategy" (GVRS for short, another new acronym). More paper, less police work. More meetings; more inside clout jobs. When you read it you'll see. It's a doozy.
I think I saw this policing tactic on a show called the wire.......I think McJersey just finally had some time to catch up on his DVR watching.
Seriously...how do we not have a gang unit who knows all this stuff already in a city like Chicago? Why am I paying taxes again?
This guy needs to come up with a new strategy to build morale. Just talk to the cops. We've never felt so defeated due to:
- declining manpower
- poor leadership
- no promotions
- 911 workload (we answer every bullshit call, even if not remotely police related)
- equipment breakdowns.
Ah shit, I'm too demoralized to go on.
I cant believe this guy is really that nieve.... He actually comes out and makes public statments such as we want to know who the gangs are and where there territories are? Makes himself look totally stupid. We know where the gangs are and what their territories are but its not like it was in 1993... Stop saying embarassing things everytime someone puts a microphone in your face. Act professional and do your homework.... Have someone give you the info you need. Jesus!!!
The old red nosed Irish captain or lieutenant holding roll call with his pin map from the WC's office. Bring it to roll call-- talk about it and then leave it for the troops.
Of course I guess you no longer have WCs.
schenkel is Rahm's back up when McStupid gets fired for NATO
Schenkel was a MArine in Vietnam
and has Hillairds backing
http://justicedeniedchicago.blogspot.com/2012/04/david-protess-huffington-post-lost.html?spref=fb
Try to get the cooperation from beat officers. After all, you make them drive across the city every day to work. Then you assign them to the "box" for 8 hours. WTF! Add exempts that are afraid to speak up and violent crime will contiue to rise. Bring back the colored maps with hat pins. The maps worked in the 1970's and 80's.
Off topic... View the beating of a white tourist in Baltimore by blacks on YouTube. Also on Cnn. Where is the protest??? That's right when they act like animals daily it's not a big news story. In due time it will happen here in downtown Chicago. Lets continue to let these animals wander around like they are in Englewood.
We need a Large Group of Officers that can be Deployed to problem areas,Kind of like a Big Saturation Team.
Here's an idea: Hire some more fucking cops!
Here's another idea: bring back a unit where the officers could be deployed to areas where problems flare up.
Unfucking believable. Typical city bullshit. The city find the money they need to take care of their friends with various projects, but they never find the money to actually do the citizens right by their safety.
Rest In Peace Billy Erikson from 008. guys, if you need help get it... if you see someone who needs help try to get involved somehow. Suicide is only a long term solution to a short term problem.
They are also going to call in the gang leaders and tell them to "knock it off, or else!"
No shit
How about putting a positive spin on things. Out of the couple million people that live in Chicago, less than 50 got shot last weekend and only five died. So in actuality there is less than a .1% chance you will be shot and an even smaller chance you will be killed. Those sound like good odds to me.
This "Gang Audit" thing is making me so excited I'm glad I'm sitting down.
Don't worry. There are color maps already in place. The 010 district has one with all the gangs and their territory. I believe that map was distributed in 2008, so mcflurry needs to come up with new ideas... Here I'll give him one - hire more police.
Effective next period(allegedly) 165 officers from gang enforcement, 72 officers from gang investigations and 45 officers from narcotics section to be sent to patrol. The vacancies in those units will then be eliminated. The officers will have top three picks of what district they want to go on and what watch until they are reshuffled at bid time. The cuts will be determined by seniority. Gang investigations will be based on the old gang investigator where each area will have two teams of 10-15 coppers.. so it will be gangs south, central and north. They will still do the same thing they do now and will still be based out of homan square. Gang enforcement will have the same roll they have now and so will narcotics... they will just have to do it with less. Tell me rahm, what will you do when you cant steal manpower from units anymore??? Pretty soon your gonna have to hire people. look for the changes to come next period.. although, the guy I talked to at homan square said the details may only be released next period and no changes may be made until after the nato summit. more smoke and mirrors people.
100 Sergeants to be made AFTER May/NATO ??????
(However NO lietenants to be made until they get under 100 in manpower??)
I have to wonder just how much longer the slippery Racoon, and his pool boy McSwilley, can continue to pull the wool over the eyes of Chicago citizens. With all those bullets flying around somebody must have noticed things are not going well in GangLand Chicago. Formerly known as the friendly vibrant Windy City. Who the hell would want to venture into town to shop or browse around and see the sights, Afraid you might trip over a corpse? Don't worry. Always look down when walking the streets of Chicago. You might get lucky and find a quarter, or another corpse. You might even be more lucky and not be mugged by Flash Mobs or just plain old ordinary Muggers looking for some loose change. This town is soooo Fucked!
Heh...
Don't tell McSwizzlestick shit without getting a "consultation fee." Going rate is one day at HIS salary... Why the fuck not? Who says it can't be so?
Share the wealth greedy mofos!
These New Yawkuhs be slick... Compstat is basically a money-making scheme for the inner circle.
(Somebody sharp posted some time ago that Compstat is copyrighted and Shortshanks made sure the notepad came out during his casting calls for supernintendo so he can steal ideas from Bratton et al.)
These FNG outsiders are being paid a TON of MONEY for their alleged street smarts and L.E. expertise.
*snerk*
Everybody can see that they're in over their heads and their only answer to hard and pointy questions is creating churn and chaos within the Department as distraction from the fact that they're frightened out of their minds now that they glimpse the REAL DANGER in the intentional dynamiting of CPD for political payback.
Remember... He's far far smarter than any peon blue shirt.
Actually, it's a firmly established theme among these FNG outsiders. The lemon-head fed reigns as the current stinking L.E. carp and McDrinky is closing fast.
Heh... It must bug the ever-lovin' fuck out of McDrinky to realize he might actually deign to ask the poor, dirty, uncouth, miserable, raggedy bastards below decks of the Titanic of Law Enforcement how the sum'bitch can actually achieve forward motion.
Heh... Newfound humility no doubt fostered by the fact that Flaming Tutu chained him to the wheel, swallowed the key to the padlock, donned a saucy little number avec wig and high-tailed it to the first available lifeboat.
Destroying CPD has destroyed any hope of two overhyped jokers catching their own rep and parlaying it into a bigger payday.
"Oh, that's the guy that fucked up CPD? Why the fuck would we hire HIM?"
Again... Don't tell McDrinky and his people shit without getting paid your fee as a genuine subject matter expert in things pertaining to Chicago Policing.
Bullshit ain't nothin'...
The REAL experts are the people pushing these Blue & Whites around and running from call to call without rest or relief.
The people in charge are no better than the mutts on the street...
If they can't eat it, fuck it, smoke it, steal it and sell it; they break it so no one else can benefit from it.
CPD is broken.
Now try and gang audit that funky shit right dere... If it's worth the while it'll merit an entry in the old raid book.
RANT: (OFF)/ON
In order that gang members do not get wind of any of these meaningful discussions, the "Cone-of-Silence" should be utilised.
Another new "strategy" Is this like strategy #38 or is this the same as Harolds chicken #96 ?
A New Strategy a day keeps the bad things away...
Don't know whether to laugh or cry.
"The city leaders created this Sanctuary City culture, nurtured it and have let it grown to the point that it's now imbedded and a disaster."
--4/10/2012 01:41:00 AM
This is the fruition of more than a century of "social engineering."
It's too bad , the crystal ball unit, which was awarded over a million in grant money......shortly after it was disbanded and sent to Ops Command is no longer around. Much like the CPIC, Steve C managed to take everything these guys did and make it irrelevant.
is the air clear? may i have an Event number for violence zone number 3,162. keep me clear!
I knew Brett Goldstein when he was assigned to 011 on midnights around 2003 , although a nice enough guy he WAS NOT THE POLICE and he worked the radio room and desk for the most part. I have no ill feelings towards Brett but how is someone who was never THE POLICE going to have anything to say about gangs or violent crime in general. He was very good with computers as WE that worked around him remember. Sorry Brett but its the truth and you know it as well...
I did this "gang audit" a few weeks ago.
All we did is list the gangs, the factions, who they're allied with, who their in conflict with, who's in the gang, what is their source of income (eg weed, heroin, robberies, burglaries).
While it's a good idea because all of our gang maps are out-dated. They have no real strategy.
They seem to want to "splinter" these gangs off. The problem with that though is you create even more factions and have no leadership within these factions.
Most coppers in their district can figure out if a shooting happened at 63rd it's more likely the guys off of 65th who did it. You cannot accurately predict when and where a shooting will occur. I remember some west side boys were shot outside the rock and roll McDonalds. If another gang catches you slipping, it doesn't matter when or where you are they will get you if they want to.
The answer is more police, and a large city wide unit to combat upticks in violence. It's a proven strategy that works.
So this is the BS that our "leadership" is selling to the Sup. Re-hashed ideas that never worked to reduce violence. Instead of promoting merit/racial/political hacks, how about just one or two actual Bosses who have been working in the trenches their whole career. And that does not mean house mouses sent to the ghetto for a resume bump. Case and point, XO RB from 011. Nice guy,but clueless as to how the animal operates. "Do contact cards and they won't come back to the corner." Are you f-ing kidding me. In what drug induced fantasy land have you been working in. Sir, you need to go back to R&D at 35th St. That is a better use of your abilities and experience. Inside.
OT (Other Trouble) --
Police Car Shot Up in Trayvon Martin's Neighborhood
By CANDACE SMITH and MATT GUTMAN | Good Morning America – 21 hours ago
"Six shots were fired into an empty police cruiser early today in the Florida neighborhood where black teenager Trayvon Martin was shot and killed as the mayor warned that the town has become a "kindling box."
"No one was injured in the 4:30 a.m. shooting at the Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, Fla. Police removed the vehicle and have begun an investigation.
"The shooting occurred as tensions continue in this small middle class city. One official told ABC News tension could soon reaching a boiling point. ABC News has learned that the emergency operation centers of three counties have been activated at Level II, the same level of preparedness used ahead of a hurricane..."
http://gma.yahoo.com/police-car-shot-trayvon-martins-neighborhood-184110824--abc-news-topstories.html
The question must be asked. What is wrong with people who slaughter each other like animals all day and all night, every day and every night, living in a culture of death with "pimped-out" coffins with flashing lights and multi-thousand-dollar airbrushed RIP walls that poor people can in no way afford -- yet when ONE of their group is so much as spoken about by an "outsider," the cities burn?
Mass denial/mass schizophrenia/mass insanity.
Man this McNutty/McTard is full of new ideas. This is at least his 5th new gang strategy. What happened to his other 4?
Oh that's right those were used way back when and failed and he tried rebranding them only to have them fail again. WOK GENIUS I TELL YOU!
The only things that works is hiring more police, aggressive policework, fully prosecuting criminals and truth on sentencing.
These cameras don't do shit. Hell we had 6 shot right under camera that reverends insisted they had put in..............wait for it.....oh no offended in custody.
This department and city are failing and the politicians are getting a city they wanted filled with gangbangers and drains on society for free handouts. It's far to late to change anything. The only way things will change is to let them implode and start over.
The fat lady is singing she just has finished yet and the curtain hasn't closed
"...six to seven figure tax free drug turf as a illicit drug distributor?"
--4/10/2012 01:56:00 AM
Yeah, right. Every IQ 59 out there "walkin security" on a tip is making that kind of money.
They're lucky if they get a Hostess Fruit Pie before they get killed.
Here he is again with this s__t. "Welding jobs no good."
Oh. What DOES "Occupy" want as a minimum wage? $50.00/hr? $100.00/hr?
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our new XO @ public transportation related that if he was in charge of this department he would show the bean counters at headquarters how to reduce crime.
charge them under federal rico act. send them to a far away prison for 10-20 years. treat them as urban terrorist.
"Then the dept will take all of that intelligence and create maps and charts and reports."
--4/10/2012 03:52:00 AM
I know a "health care" organization that works like that.
They issue publicity photos taken at banquets -- various "facilitators" and "coordinators" showing each other their teeth, handing each other little plastic "awards." Patients have to go through about 16 people to get a baby aspirin out of the whole deal.
Even clically insane exempts can get a take-home and a job-for-life -- where's Penelope Jones-Trahanas-Hallelujah-Power-Of-Prayer-Dog-Poisoner these days? -- but a working copper gets killed changing his clothes on the street because there's no locker for him, gets killed because he is left 99 dusting some shitty stripped car for prints.
Same thing.
This corporate-talk is like a cancer. It's killing everything.
Go ahead and make fun of Goldstein SCC! But he told me I was gonna meet "someone special" real soon!! Told me she was gonna be real purdy and everything...
My idea is why don't we ask the gangs of where thier turf is and who their fighting against, and give them a beat car or two for their protection.
Here is the link your looking for on channel 32:
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/crime/garry-mccarthy-police-supt-no-added-pressure-to-control-gun-violence-nato-summit-approaches-20120409
I hope they pull their names from the Nov election.
We should have the people call back on Mondays to report the crimes. This will cut down on weekend violence.
Maybe we should have the "children" go to school on Saturdays and Sundays.
The Progressives have completely won in Chicago. They have the remnants of a police department with demoralized and disillusioned officers. The supervisory staff is manned by very incompetent personal that are completely clueless on what it means to lead. Officers on this job now look at how soon they can get out without ruining themselves financially.
There is no quick fix, none whatsoever. If we were to get the appropriate funds that we need, get a Superintendent that was just adequate and understood the job, stop political merit promotion and actually promote by uncompromised testing and experience, and hire more officers, we would not be able to get near to what this department used to be for another three to five years. Be very careful out there, the barbarians are very aware of all the above.
The quasi-criminologists application of a Dr. Doolittle theory;
♬ " If we could talk to the animals, learn their languages
Think of all the things we could discuss, ♬ If we could walk with the animals, talk with the animals, ♬
Grunt and squeak and squawk with the animals,
And they could squeak and squawk and speak and talk to us." ♬
And we're expected to look up to this leadership?
oh brother are we in for a summer.
What's the next obvious solution? Maybe divide districts into beats and have officers patrol them? He's selling the public the obvious, these strategies are already implied by every officer in gang ridden districts. The public will eat this up and it will shut them up for a while I guess.
You want change then look above the police and at the law makers and legislators. Gangs need to be classified as criminal street organizations and treated accordingly. They are enemies of the state not citizens excercising freedom of speech and expression. That is the only solution short of street executions of gang members.
Did Commander Lucy Moy from 20th get her gun and radio stolen?? Pray tell
SCC- hilarious- my morning belly laugh thanks
Anonymous said...
Sure hope they smart enough to bring back safe city.
You know extra police in high crime areas on the weekends.
Seems like its due.
4/10/2012 02:19:00 AM
First of all they are not smart enough, so don't expect anything productive. If they bring back Safe City that means overtime. Overtime means perks for us, so don't hold your breath.
The commander had a copy of the order that was floated to the exempts. accompanying the order was a paper written by the 5th floor, like a term paper, explaining the program. Gang audits, vehicle checkpoints/seatbelt missions, and a HUGE dose of the Boston youth violence CeaseFire shit from 20 years ago. The only good thing in the paper was the denying of I-bonds to gang members with violent criminal histories and making them either pay cash or see the judge.
More shuffling coming out of OCD very soon. From what people are saying huge shifts of manpower from Narcotics, gang enforcement and gangs. Eliminating teams and sending them back to districts in blue shirts. Interesting if true. But, the guy I heard it from would know and he said that the bosses at OCD have been notified and must cut a certain number by seniority.
Chalkie knows no boundaries Gary
Sitting at roll call this morning the new buzz around is that major changes are coming to the organized crime division. Look for manpower to be cut in half and sent back the districts. McStupid is really destroying this department.. I guess they really really dont want anyone working anymore these days.
Squad give me lunch in 004. Good night
here's a thought gary..let the working police do their jobs the way they know how..let us guys that have been there awhile teach the new guys tips and tricks and knock off this zone/foot nonsense..we actually had things working well..umm up until 5 or6 years ago...(( here's a clue..leave the working officers alone we already know how to be the police and what works on our beats..))guess who..((wink))
Daddy, teacher says:
"every time a gun shot is fired in the Sanctuary city an alderman hears a cash register ring"
it sounds like McNewGuy is going to do the same stuff we were doing years ago when at roll call the watch commander would tell us who and what got shot or beaten up while we were all off duty
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Yeah...but we don't have many white shirts like that anymore. They're all afraid of their own shadows, or of losing their spots. Or they're paying too much attention to when they have to stand up as a sign of respect in case a higher ranking gold star enters the room.
This plan is assuming that the Police give a shit.
BRINK BACK T.R.U. AND THE M.S.F. NOW! A lot of you don't like the truth. But those two units did a lot of good police work. The officers in those units were tough, aggressive and smart. They were go getters and worked their tails off. BRING BACK T.R.U. AND M.S.F.
Microchip the gang members- lets make the audits easier. McDummy :-/
OK, Here's what we do, just like all the big schools and universities.
Since we now have to make detailed notifications of shootings to everyone, and I mean EVERYONE including Aldermen (not kidding) why not include gang leaders.
Then we could TWEET that Boo-Boo done got his ass blown away so head for the basement. We could spread the news on Facebook. Show lots of blood, show his Social Media photos, flashing his guns, his BLING, his gang signing and flipping the bird to the camera. People will love it. Don’t forget his grammar school graduation photo.
Get me off this Beat Car. Never mind hiring more cops.
That's the job I want.
Too bad there are no more beat cops to sit down with. I work a different beat with a different "partner" every single night. I couldn't even tell you where to eat let alone information about the gangs operating there. This whole department is FUBAR and I just love watching McDumbAss and Tiny Dancer looking more stupid by the day.
It's all going to be blamed on the Blue Shirts. Yet morons with 25+ years on will still come in with Parker's. When are we going to wake up? With manpower as low as it is, WE(small groups) have the power! Use it, talk amongst your few trusted friends and use the few contractual rights we have left. After NATO it is too late, now is the time.
Anyone with common sense knows what do,now is the time.
this Weekly "New Strategy" is quite frankly, redundant, and shows a lack of real intelligence in dealing with the tremendous crime problems in Chicago.
All the gang territory mapping and push pinmanship in the world isn't going to stop 16-year old high school dropout girls from having 3 or 4 kids out of wedlock.
Addressing the downstream consequences (gang activity) of the problem means nothing without looking further upstream for root causes. Anyone listening? Bueller?
Civilian post
Pension Board's Ken Hauser is giving a very gloomy outlook on our pension fund. Not as many cops paying into the system today and the city is trying to unload light duty cops onto the pension and off the city payroll. WTF! The Evil Racoon at work. Of course this shit of short changing the fund by the city has been going on for years and the bill will be coming due. Hauser says the city will have to find other sources of revenue other than property taxes to pay into all of the city pension funds to keep them solvent. Our asshole Mayor can find money for everything but the pension funds. Why should he worry. He has millions he already stole collecting interest for HIS retirement.
Excuse me but did you just deny me time due? Oh yeah and what did you want to know? hahahahahahah
If you don't know what gangs are operating or where, I think it might be a little to late. We know who is responsible for the third world atmosphere here in Chicago. The problem is we are not allowed to deal with it in the appropiate way. If it looks like a rabid dog then you treat like a rabid dog.
why dont we caputure a gangbanger and water board him for info..
how does the public continue to be into his bullshit. hire the couple thousand police officers we are short. more with less isnt working. all the murdered people and the shot and stabbed people makes it perfectly clear. we are way understaffed and the box gig dont work either.
OT -- Other Trouble
Carriers, gov't band to fight cell phone theft
Published April 10, 2012
The Wall Street Journal
"The nation's major wireless providers have agreed to a deal with the U.S. government to build a central database of stolen cell phones -- part of a broad effort to tame an explosion of thefts nationwide.
"The database, which the wireless companies will build and maintain, will be designed to track phones that are reported as lost or stolen and deny them voice and data service. The idea is to reduce crime by making it difficult or impossible to actually use a stolen device, reducing resale value.
"Currently, Verizon and Sprint Nextel block phones that are reported stolen from being reactivated. AT&T and T-Mobile do not. All four have agreed to be part of the new database.
"New technologies create new risks," said Julius Genachowski, chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), which negotiated the database proposal. "We wanted to find a way to reduce the value of stolen smartphones."
"Cell phone theft is one of the fastest growing crimes in the US, law enforcement officials nationwide say. The deal between the FCC and the wireless carriers is partly the result of pressure from frustrated police chiefs. The Major Cities Chiefs Association, an affiliation of 70 police chiefs from large cities across the US and Canada, published a resolution in February calling on the FCC to require telecom companies to implement technology to disable
stolen devices..."
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/04/10/carriers-govt-band-to-fight-cell-phone-theft/
More work.
Whole world revolves around ignorant motherf__ers and the smash-and-grab. Now, more millions to be spent, databases to be constructed, etc.
Used to accomplish the same goal for about a nickel, with just a raised nightstick and the snarled order "Get your ass back the other side of the viadock."
Same thing with the CTA -- they had paper transfers for like 100 years until they became street currency; you could not walk half a block without being bothered, interrupted, harassed, hounded for a "tranfa." Finally they had to stop issuing them.
A man gets tired...
Isnt that what Gang enforcement is for? Or is it they failed at it?
New Strategy: Denial of Time Due. Its coming people, they are doing statistical analysis. Grievance??? Go ahead, by bthe time it is done, summer will be over.
"Sure hope they smart enough to bring back safe city.
"You know extra police in high crime areas on the weekends.
"Seems like its due."
--4/10/2012 02:19:00 AM
There are no "extra police."
There aren't even enough police.
Emanuel can come up with 7.3 million for "twenty new parks," though. Already saw the sign at Minuteman Park, "entirely new playlot coming."
Give the bangers a cushioned bench to hang on, back there by the tracks...
First things first...
Oh, yeah, the "City Lights" company is gonna start replacing all the street lights. Even the brand new ones? Daley got rid of Bureau of Electricity for this bunch; wonder who they're hooked up with...
Hey! It's R.J. in a hard hat, up there in the basket!
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"No mentioning manpower though."
There IS no manpower.
Anyway, I thought the CCC "Gang Directory" was gonna solve all this crime.
Oops. Weis had to run again!
Isn't this what the DOC is for? The Supt could save time and just go there.
When is PPO Goldstein going to go back to patrol to finish his training cycles?
Give me a break. If you know where the gang members are, and you have probable cause that they're committing criminal acts - ARREST THEM. Stop fucking around with push pins and other bullshit. Just keep arresting all of the little shits on the street.
Forget chasing after the "big fish" - focus on the little fucks. Eventually the big fish will run out of little fish to do their dirty work, and you'll get them too. Plus you'll send the message that you're going after every criminal.
Just keep all your ducks in a row so the Judges don't have any reason to listen to a defense atty's line about not mirandizing the little shits...
Bring in the fucken National Guard for a few months if you need to - station them in all the shit neighborhoods (oh, fuck it - just station them in the whole damn city - since spreading Sect. 8 around - everyplace is a shithole). Orders that are shoot to kill - so any drive by assholes get hit with a fully auto M16. When you clean up all that crap, we can move on to cleaning up the other fucked up messes - like the politicans...
I'm getting married next. I would like my balls polished. What floor was that?
Interesting take:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter203.htm
Off topic,
We lost a good p.o yesterday, r.I.p PO Erickson.
Great friend and coworker, wish I could have done more.
Calling him 'McNewGuy' is too kind. How about 'McNutJob'? There is no way an outsider can understand Chicago's gang problem unless you worked the street here.
This dept. will never be led by the most qualified or most competent if they do not have a Chinaman. CPD will always be led my merit hacks--but can't Little Tutu at least pick the most-qualified merit hack? At least?
McRetard thinks Chicago is like NY--if you reduce robberies it will lead to a lower murder rate--he's delusional.
I just wonder how long it will be before someone at Con-stat finally just lets McCarthy have it and tells him to his face what a dismal failure he is and that he's nothing more than a know-nothing arrogant little prick who is 9.5's little bitch.
McIdiot dismantled and f*cked the det's along with a lot of patrolmen. Does he really think any det's give a fuck about his crime rates? Not.
Most det's are nearing retirement age because McRatFace hasn't promoted any younger guys. People who weren't planning to retire at 50 are now planning to do so. You treat every blue shirt like shit and then expect them to produce? You treat det's like shit and expect them to produce? Go fuck yourself McDrunkTard.
Anonymous said...
schenkel is Rahm's back up when McStupid gets fired for NATO
Schenkel was a MArine in Vietnam
and has Hillairds backing
4/10/2012 08:27:00 AM
And isn't a POLICE OFFICER, much less a CHICAGO police officer. Find somebody that works here that is capable. Perhaps look at some of your non- exempt folks and REALLY make some changes. Oh, wait, this is Chicago.... just hire somebody from outside to take the heat
On one side of the gaping chasm you have the police. On the other side of it you have the schools. The gaping chasm is where parents should be. When are the powers that be going to figure out dumping money on either side of the hole is not going to make up for the lack of parenting??? No amount of longer school days or more police on the street is EVER going to make up for the lack of what should be in the middle.
Say it with me -- PARENTS! Notice the word 'parents' is plural - not to be confused with "baby momma".
Meetings!...we need more Meetings!....meetings, the practical alternative to work....
When faced with a problem, many people will ask "how have others solved similar problems"?
Chicago leaders instead bury their heads in the sand and pretend its the first time anyone has encountered the problem. They then struggle to come up with half-assed solutions that will obviously fail. Obviously to anyone with a brain, anyway. Too bad we can't get any real leaders here in Crook County.
overheard on the 5th floor:
McCrisis: so, what the hell are you doing about all of the shootings? This is unacceptable! (new motto of the CPD)
McLost: well, I was thinking....
McCrisis: come up with a strategy, dammit!
McLost: we could make a map of where the gangs are?....
McCrisis: hey, dummy, do I have to send you a dead fish wrapped in a newspaper?
McLost: well, no, I'll announce something, even if it makes no sense, like, I'll tell the field troops to announce right away where the gangs are, and where they might be....
McCrisis: good! baffle them with bullshit!....good job!
All the fancy strategies and theories wont work for one very simple reason: Not enough Police Manpower...We have only 6,500-7000 Sworn Police Officers...Why do you think the Feds canceled the G8 Conference?The minimum requirement was to have 6,000 Police Officers detailed to the G8. They couldn't do it. The Smoke & Mirrors trick wouldnt work any more.
not that downtown asked....but can we get rid of the ink wasting colorful fancy border around the cpic/doc bulletins...
"The question must be asked. What is wrong with people who slaughter each other like animals all day and all night, every day and every night, living in a culture of death with "pimped-out" coffins with flashing lights and multi-thousand-dollar airbrushed RIP walls that poor people can in no way afford -- yet when ONE of their group is so much as spoken about by an "outsider," the cities burn?
Mass denial/mass schizophrenia/mass insanity."
4/10/2012 11:10:00 AM
an excellent question....and one that can be re-directed, and rephrased, to address different cultures, and sects and sub-sects of society...why do groups within a larger society follow different "rules", have differing "norms", etc....tremendously larger and much more complex questions, questions and issues that far transcend placing police in a "small box"....the issues and questions are most likely far beyond the intellectual capabilities of most current politicians, and certainly beyond their character to address, if in fact they know, or have the courage, to state that, in many instances, and with regard to many societal events, there simply are no solutions....
I guess they really really dont want anyone working anymore these days.
Gee no shit Sherlock. I figured that out about 12 years ago.
The secret is simply getting out of the way of the bullet once it is on it's way to you. Don't they realize that?
Anonymous said...
It also sounds EXACTLY like what Gang Specialists used to do, but let's reinvent the wheel and claim it as your own, McNothingNew.
4/10/2012 12:13:00 AM
Don't tell McStupid this but there used to be units within the police department that were called Gangs South, Gangs West and Gangs North. They did pretty good but now the wheel needs re-inventing.
Anyone remember Joe Berry? I recall after he made street deputy I made a traffic stop by myself and I looked up and there was Assistant Deputy Superintendent Joe Berry backing me up. Great guy.
gang enforcement and narcotics to be cut big time, first by seniority and then activity.
The Tact teams used to know the players, but theres no incentives so its filled w/ 3year morons whos idea of tact work comprises of grab the 1st 14yearold w/a bag of weed or reckless conduct him while he's walking home from school.
"Schenkel was a MArine in Vietnam
and has Hillairds backing
4/10/2012 08:27:00 AM"
Clarification,
Schenkel was not in Vietnam, Hillard was.
"Forget chasing after the "big fish" - focus on the little fucks. Eventually the big fish will run out of little fish to do their dirty work, and you'll get them too. Plus you'll send the message that you're going after every criminal."
Thanks for chiming in Jody Weis, but as usual you're just plain f'ng wrong. Gotta Run!!
"Juveniles are accumulating 25-30 arrests with amazing regularity before anything happens in court , and even then, there is tremendous pressure to NOT lock them "
28 of those arrests are for reckless conduct the other 2 are for a bag of weed aka misdemeanor nonsense which is tossed. If a kid is locked up 30 times, that makes your tremendous pressure statement pure BULLSHIT
Carriers, gov't band to fight cell phone theft
Published April 10, 2012
The Wall Street Journal
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And . . .
just like everything else - who ultimately pays for this?
This people are really dumb seriously, next they might wanna join the gangs. The box is NOT working...
I'm sorry, but how do the gold stars expect the beat officer to really know their beat if they are never left in one place for more than a shift or two? Since about the time Weiss came in, it seems our beat cars have had a revolving door on them. Leave officers alone -- in one place so they get to know their beats, who is who, the specific gang players/issues, problem corners/blocks, and build relationships w/ community members -- perhaps then more info. might be shared and incidents averted.
But what do I know...i'm just a lowly citizen that supports and is greatful for all the hardwork my Dist. PO's do.
R.I.P BillY. Class of 99-8A. Guys and Girls talk to someone, anyone, help each other out. Suicide is never the answer.
"Emanuel can come up with 7.3 million for "twenty new parks," though."
--4/10/2012 03:31:00 PM
My bad. I meant "7.3 billion."
"The city might think about buying some heavy duty assault vehicles, attack helicopters, and plenty of barbed wire."
--4/10/2012 12:34:00 AM
So what happens after you chase them all into the next block?
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Anonymous said...
not that downtown asked....but can we get rid of the ink wasting colorful fancy border around the cpic/doc bulletins...
4/10/2012 07:11:00 PM
How about getting rid of the Xerox cover sheet on every fucking thing you print? I throw out at least 20 sheets of those cover pages away per day. Multiply that by how many officers/dets on each watch every day. Thousands of sheets of paper wasted every single day. Thousands. They go from the printer right into the trash. What a waste. And how about one, count it one, fucking printer working in Area North at any given time. Spend more time looking for where your shit is/isn't (usually isn't) printed that typing the stupid shit up.
What a fucking city. But more CON-stat meetings and new idiotic strategies will work!
Please bring J-Fed back!
McCarthy is the worst idiot I have ever worked for.
Just heard this on the news: McCarthy to fill vacancy at Chicago Crime Commission created by Weis' abrupt departure.
Anonymous said...
When is PPO Goldstein going to go back to patrol to finish his training cycles?
4/10/2012 04:43:00 PM
When someone returns his tricycle.
Anonymous said...
New Strategy: Denial of Time Due. Its coming people, they are doing statistical analysis. Grievance??? Go ahead, by bthe time it is done, summer will be over.
4/10/2012 03:27:00 PM
If they think they are going to deny my earned time due they have something coming.
Watch how fast I hit the medical or obtain a bonafide IOD.
There are many ways to skin a cat and I don't plan on getting any shit turn on me or having to fight with unruly mobs this May either.
RIP PO Billy Erickson
I am tired of seeing friends die needlessly. Please get help if you are having troubles. There is no shame in asking for help, I did once.
Anonymous said...
BRINK BACK T.R.U. AND THE M.S.F. NOW! A lot of you don't like the truth. But those two units did a lot of good police work. The officers in those units were tough, aggressive and smart. They were go getters and worked their tails off. BRING BACK T.R.U. AND M.S.F.
Fuck that you can keep that. I got dumped to the southside now I just ride around in squares waving at pookie. Mcthesituation can fight the gangs all by himself. Woof woof.
I think I saw this policing tactic on a show called the wire.......I think McJersey just finally had some time to catch up on his DVR watching.
Seriously...how do we not have a gang unit who knows all this stuff already in a city like Chicago? Why am I paying taxes again?
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the gang units do know, and as a matter of fact just did this like a year or two ago. mapped out the gangs identified members and leaders etc. this is a smoke and mirrors B.S. for the media and public...
Anyone remember Joe Berry? I recall after he made street deputy I made a traffic stop by myself and I looked up and there was Assistant Deputy Superintendent Joe Berry backing me up. Great guy.
Big deal
"...with regard to many societal events, there simply are no solutions..."
--4/10/2012 07:17:00 PM
Oh, there are some really spectacular solutions. Just don't expect the people causing the problems to discuss them, let alone implement them.
"This is unacceptable!" (new motto of the CPD)
--4/10/2012 06:52:00 PM
That will be placed on the front of each unit, in reverse-out lettering so it can be read in people's rear-view mirrors...
Off topic... View the beating of a white tourist in Baltimore by blacks on YouTube. Also on Cnn. Where is the protest??? That's right when they act like animals daily it's not a big news story. In due time it will happen here in downtown Chicago. Lets continue to let these animals wander around like they are in Englewood.
4/10/2012 09:03:00 AM
Organize the protest or shut up. You're on here complaining but I bet you contacted nobody and you took no action, so pipe down. There were two clowns driving around black neighborhoods shooting people for being black. You know what these black and white OFFENDERS have in common? They all deserve to be locked up, just two of them deserve the gallows...
B.C.P. said...
"Now try and gang audit that funky shit right dere... If it's worth the while it'll merit an entry in the old raid book."
Hair Gel responds...
"What the hell is a Raid Book?"
Call 0662 on the Pax and "ax" the fellas at OCD. And be sure to get that raid number for "Prostitution" seeing that McDrinky is little more than 9.5'ers whore.
Long story out of NYC that puts the lie to compstat type policing.
http://nymag.com/news/features/nypd-2012-4/
Anonymous said...
I knew Brett Goldstein when he was assigned to 011 on midnights around 2003 , although a nice enough guy he WAS NOT THE POLICE and he worked the radio room and desk for the most part. I have no ill feelings towards Brett but how is someone who was never THE POLICE going to have anything to say about gangs or violent crime in general. He was very good with computers as WE that worked around him remember. Sorry Brett but its the truth and you know it as well...
4/10/2012 10:49:00 AM
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SADLY this is the trend and pretty much how each unit/district is run now. These people are the DSS's and Commanders etc.
Some of thesefolks have "street" experience but if McCarthy or whoever in charge really wants results, they should run the arrest history and awards history of ALL their bosses (even SGT.s) and the results may astound/awaken/shock those that expect results.
Mainly because most could NOT lead by example in the street but lead mostly by example from their experiences at the desk or soft districts where they did not much and spent little to no time in court putting DUDE away.
Now they run around trying to "fool" some of us old and been there done that folks that they are lock em up vets!
I often wonder what McCarthy thinks of them or our department at Compstat when he looks upon them if he knows there background or sees their arrest numbers or award history.
WHATEVER
Back to my newspaper!
KMA 014
Anyone read last pension letter? We are about 7 BILLION underfunded. Hmm strangely rahmass has found 7 billion for other investments. Boys and girls the pension is the most important thing facing our future. Keep busting your ass for unappreciative bosses. ghetto citizens, in the end rahm, madigan, nobama will just laugh in your face.
pistol pete said...
More shuffling coming out of OCD very soon. From what people are saying huge shifts of manpower from Narcotics, gang enforcement and gangs. Eliminating teams and sending them back to districts in blue shirts. Interesting if true. But, the guy I heard it from would know and he said that the bosses at OCD have been notified and must cut a certain number by seniority.
4/10/2012 01:02:00 PM
Thanks pistol Pete we really need you in the district, years ago we had lots of manpower, sorry no more 3 hour tours, they have a sale on blue shirts at Chicago uniform shop. "Welcome back, to the same old place you bragged about."
Anonymous said...
"Forget chasing after the "big fish" - focus on the little fucks. Eventually the big fish will run out of little fish to do their dirty work, and you'll get them too. Plus you'll send the message that you're going after every criminal."
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Thats what they say so Narcotics or whatever Unit or even FBI or DEA doesnt get their cases fucked with ....
I say continue to fish for the MARLIN! Fuck the minnows!
Just be careful!
I'm glad to have known Billy Erickson and he will be missed.
Anonymous said...
BRINK BACK T.R.U. AND THE M.S.F. NOW! A lot of you don't like the truth. But those two units did a lot of good police work. The officers in those units were tough, aggressive and smart. They were go getters and worked their tails off. BRING BACK T.R.U. AND M.S.F.
YOU ARE FUCKING HIGH !!!!
Obviously the hair gel has penetrated your scalp and made its way into your bloodstream where it mixed with the Koolaide the Bossholes served you while they stroked your egos with aggrandizing tales of self worth and 'importance' to the CPD.
Can I assume you'll be the first to re-up for any future reincarnation of the 'elite' units of which you speak?
Dummy..
Fuck this bullshit. Movers, get me some movers.
I'm in GEU and have had enough of the BS. On nights, when were not doing private security at funeral homes for gang members, we're assigned to the f'ing brilliant "zones." When on days, i heard of teams babysitting churches during gangster funerals, and even PROVIDING POLICE ESCORTS FOR MURDERED SHITHEADS TO THE CEMETARY! How are we supposed to do the things we need to do to function as designed- things such as surveillance, and cultivate informats (who often give us sensitive inside information into the inner working of gang structure and activities), and catch people dirty to flip them. I cant even tell you how many times we would be working on something and get a call saying "hey, we need you to respond over to zone xx in district x" then we drop what we were doing to drive around in circles staring at 30 other cop cars in the same box. This unit is done, scrap us all.
Oh, and the new commander is in over his head, so he reverts back to his "saturate the area" ways of TRU. News flash- TRU got axed for a reason, implementing their strategies in GEU will not be any more successful. Say hello to GEU, the largest civilian dress saturation team in CPD history.
@ 7:31 PM...
Hell yeah re: Joe Berry!
Or better known as 4500B...
Wasn't unusual to hear Joe key up and you could hear the gunfire in the background of his transmission.
The era of the nightly Area 4 10-1 Tour with stops at fine venues like Horner, Rockwell, ABLA, Ogden Courts and even l'il but not fogotten Harrison Courts.
Heh... That good old fashioned Chevy on the sidewalk Policing that the public cried and complained about.
"Y'all too mean and insensitive! Y'all hit too hard! Y'all drive too fast! Y'all tryin' to lock airy-body up! Wah! Mayor Daley make da Po-leece stop! Dat pepper-spray is too hot! Y'all still too mean and insensitive!"
Gawdamighty did we look forward to coming to work.
The raised eyebrow of acknowledgement from the few decent people made the hard knocks and IOD's worth it.
Now?
Well... The well oiled City Hall propaganda apparatus has cast The Police as the enemy and the people embrace being cannibalized, terrorized and held prisoner in their homes.
Since The Police are the enemy, they're rightfully focused on survival and mitigating any potential personal and financial harm...
Common sense in the face of being declared the de facto enemy of the public and the root cause of this city circling the fiscal drain...
Funny how Flaming Tutu ain't saying shit about the members of Daley Inc. STILL BEING ALLOWED TO BITE THE TAX-PAYER TEAT EVEN AFTER STEALING BILLIONS OVER THE SPAN OF A GENERATION!
They've picked The Police to turn up on the loser side of the tally sheet.
Copper has an extra nickel and these dirty pricks splash it in every paper & TV outlet...
OT: I reside in 008, a few blocks west of MDW. 2am, this past Saturday morning, I woke to doorbell ringing. Because of the distorted peephole view, I opened interior door slightly (exterior security door locked), I see 1 male Hispanic about 15 years old standing on front porch, but my dog barking makes it impossible to hear what this kid is saying. Dog jumps up on bay window, under the closed blind and only then do I see two more male Hispanics, 1 standing on sidewalk directly in front of property, the other adjacent to property, in gangway looking towards backyard. Phone in hand, I dial 911; explain the situation with a brief description to dispatcher, who tells me they’ll send a car out. The three remain outside my house another 5 minutes before leaving in a 4-door late model Caprice.
SUV arrives at 230am, I tell the two officers what took place giving them a more detailed description (15 yr old male, 130 lbs, dark blue hooded sweatshirt, dark pants, dark curly hair. 2 males approx. 35-40 years old, 165 lbs, one grey hooded sweatshirt, dark pants, other jeans and dark jacket.) Officers tell me they’ll drive around vicinity, and to call 911 again if I see anything else suspicious.
I realize my poor choice of neighborhood years ago coupled with eroded property values today have led me to living this somewhat survival mode existence I find myself in. Not quite the lifestyle I envisioned for my family or myself. As unremarkable as this thing was compared to the carnage you usually see, I admit to having sleepless nights over this incident so I welcome your suggestions.
I appreciate you, your chosen profession and your willingness to put your lives in jeopardy for complete strangers, especially now, when public apathy towards police is so extreme and the criminal element is increasingly confrontational. Fingers crossed for an unseasonably cold summer (if it helps).
saturation teams are back in the areas...what was old once is new again,,,have fun working until 0400 and coming in with 1811 and no cuts!!!
OT. An officer in a recent shooting is due to appear in branch 43-2 this morning and could really use everyone's support.
It's over Rahm's going Nazi and if you don't start executing people you're fired.
I propose we call it...
*** THE GANG BANG-BANG-BANG AUDIT STRATEGY ***
Yes I do remember Joe Berry.
We ran up a lot of unine stinking project stairways together and he was always good for a backup.
Last I heard retired in Florida and I hope he is loving it.
Best Regards, Joe>
(P.S. Would love to see you at the 18th District Reunion later this month if you are in town.)
RIP PO Billy Erickson
I am tired of seeing friends die needlessly. Please get help if you are having troubles. There is no shame in asking for help, I did once.
4/10/2012 09:50:00 PM
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If you're tired of seeing friends die needlessly, pay them some attention. Return their phone calls. Call 'just because'. Sometimes the people in trouble don't realize how deep they're in the black hole and having friends who let you know you're VALUED means everything.
I know this because, once I retired, I became invisible. People who still consider themselves my 'friends' have disappeared. They're too busy to call back. They send bulk jokes in email, but don't know who they even sent all that stuff to. It's painful and lonely and I can see how one 'last straw on the camel's back' could push someone over the edge.
Me, I found a hobby or two and some new - real -friends. But my advice is, if you value your buddies, act like it while they're alive. They won't know or care how many flowers you send to their funerals. Celebrate them while they're ALIVE, not after they die.
Wasn't that graphic painted on the side of a van back in 1978??
Response to 4/10/12 11:50,
I too live in your area. I have lived here for almost 19 years and have recently retired from CPD. This area has been creepy from day 1. Drug house behind me for many years, gang bangers shooting it out in 2003 at 4:30 in afternoon. I left Englewood in December, 1976.(living there not working there). I've seen plenty, Now, when I see 6'7, black gangbangers walking down my block and alley, with their hispanic counterparts, gloves in their back pockets, in 80 degree weather, it takes me back. I cannot run anymore or afford to, in this economy. My advice to you is get yourself some firearms training and some home protection. You have a dog, but that is not enough. Stay vigilant, since you have had this occurrence, a little light sleeping is ok. Being careful is not being paranoid. Secure your home as best as you can and take care of yourself and your family. This neighborhood and most in this city are only going to get worse. This is the way of our our country. Burglar alarms, guns, and tall fences with locked gates, are a small investment to save you and your family from harm. Stay safe and stay alert. Thanks for sharing your information. I will now be looking for them. What color was that car?
Anonymous said...
Anyone remember Joe Berry? I recall after he made street deputy I made a traffic stop by myself and I looked up and there was Assistant Deputy Superintendent Joe Berry backing me up. Great guy.
Big deal
4/10/2012 10:26:00 PM
Dear Big Deal,
Obviously you aren't fit to carry Joe Berry's nightstick.
Oh, yeah, the "City Lights" company is gonna start replacing all the street lights. Even the brand new ones? Daley got rid of Bureau of Electricity for this bunch; wonder who they're hooked up with...
Wait for it...Wait for it....
Why, wouldn't cha know....It's R.J.Vanecko Electric...SHOCKING!!!!
To 11:50:00 PM,
Keep the dog and get a gun, a big gun. Oh, and if you are home when they break in, kill all of them.
The only good thing in the paper was the denying of I-bonds to gang members with violent criminal histories and making them either pay cash or see the judge.
Here's a problem. This will bring lawsuits as it is a violation of the ILCS. McDumdum knows this and even states so in his "thesis".
Anonymous said...
I'm in GEU and have had enough of the BS. On nights, when were not doing private security at funeral homes for gang members, we're assigned to the f'ing brilliant "zones." When on days, i heard of teams babysitting churches during gangster funerals, and even PROVIDING POLICE ESCORTS FOR MURDERED SHITHEADS TO THE CEMETARY! How are we supposed to do the things we need to do to function as designed- things such as surveillance, and cultivate informats (who often give us sensitive inside information into the inner working of gang structure and activities), and catch people dirty to flip them. I cant even tell you how many times we would be working on something and get a call saying "hey, we need you to respond over to zone xx in district x" then we drop what we were doing to drive around in circles staring at 30 other cop cars in the same box. This unit is done, scrap us all.
Oh, and the new commander is in over his head, so he reverts back to his "saturate the area" ways of TRU. News flash- TRU got axed for a reason, implementing their strategies in GEU will not be any more successful. Say hello to GEU, the largest civilian dress saturation team in CPD history.
4/10/2012 11:29:00 PM
But hey, the good thing is .....you STILL don't have to answer domestic calls, baby daddy calls, my kid wont behave calls or the plethora of other bullshit that we in patrol have to endure on a daily basis. Yes, watching gangbanger funerals sucks, but it sounds like you are just frustrated that you have to saturate a specific area and are not enjoying the freedom that you once had.
If it sucks that much, fill out a par form and come on back to patrol. We will welcome the help with open arms. But somehow, I don't think that will be happening.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Anyone remember Joe Berry? I recall after he made street deputy I made a traffic stop by myself and I looked up and there was Assistant Deputy Superintendent Joe Berry backing me up. Great guy.
Big deal
4/10/2012 10:26:00 PM
To the best of my knowledge, Joe Berry was never a street deputy. After he came back he was an Inspector, the job he retired from. I do agree with everything else though...Joe was always there for you, backing you up no matter what his job was. A great guy.
the new commander is in over his head, so he reverts back to his "saturate the area" ways of TRU. Say hello to GEU, the largest civilian dress saturation team in CPD history.
4/10/2012 11:29:00 PM
You guys have only gotten a taste of the real KR.
He only cares about himself and avoiding negative blow back. ask any TRU guy about the Chinese President detail. Standing in the cold for hours without relief while KR and his pud Z are in and out of the hotel. Then denies the Lt.'s request to start lunch rotations only to be caught stuffing his face at the buffet that the hotel put out for the police but kept secret from the guys by KR. True LEADERSHIP!!!
Anonymous said...
When is PPO Goldstein going to go back to patrol to finish his training cycles?
4/10/2012 04:43:00 PM
When someone returns his tricycle.
4/10/2012 09:17:00 PM
Goldstein was in 011 for a short period. I worked with him a few times. From what I saw, as a person, he was an intelligent and humble guy.
As a cop, he wasn't a mush. Granted, he didn't spend a lot of time on the streets. He did on-view a homicide off duty, catching shooter along with off duty County Deputy. He didn't run the other way, unlike our former head of the department.
Some people rip on him because he landed a nice spot after being on a short time, I get that, it is frustrating to see how the department rewards the sainted ones. That shit has been going on forever, most of those who land in a soft spot have no business being in those positions, they are there because they know somebody, or in some cases, if they are female, they are easy on the eyes. It isn't right, but that is the democratic political crap we have to deal with.
You know the saying about opinions. Now let me put on my asbestos suit before you people start flaming me.
Beat cops and school officers know more than any unit ever will.
Anonymous said...
I'm in GEU and have had enough of the BS. On nights, when were not doing private security at funeral homes for gang members, we're assigned to the f'ing brilliant "zones." When on days, i heard of teams babysitting churches during gangster funerals, and even PROVIDING POLICE ESCORTS FOR MURDERED SHITHEADS TO THE CEMETARY! How are we supposed to do the things we need to do to function as designed- things such as surveillance, and cultivate informats (who often give us sensitive inside information into the inner working of gang structure and activities), and catch people dirty to flip them. I cant even tell you how many times we would be working on something and get a call saying "hey, we need you to respond over to zone xx in district x" then we drop what we were doing to drive around in circles staring at 30 other cop cars in the same box. This unit is done, scrap us all.
Oh, and the new commander is in over his head, so he reverts back to his "saturate the area" ways of TRU. News flash- TRU got axed for a reason, implementing their strategies in GEU will not be any more successful. Say hello to GEU, the largest civilian dress saturation team in CPD history.
4/10/2012 11:29:00 PM
Well then ... get the fuck out of GEU, crybaby. You didn't beef when you could go and do whatever you wanted, did you? Now you're being told to do some real work and you're beefing. I know. I work in GEU too. Stand up like a man and do your job, pussy.
"You guys have only gotten a taste of the real KR.
He only cares about himself and avoiding negative blow back. ask any TRU guy about the Chinese President detail. Standing in the cold for hours without relief while KR and his pud Z are in and out of the hotel. Then denies the Lt.'s request to start lunch rotations only to be caught stuffing his face at the buffet that the hotel put out for the police but kept secret from the guys by KR. True LEADERSHIP!!!"
4/11/2012 11:33:00 AM
tip of the iceberg....may be equivalent to the Italian cruise ship captain who, when asked how he got into a lifeboat (when other passengers were trapped and drowned, as the ship capsized)...."I tripped and fell into the boat"....are there enough mirrors in GEU?
Ha! Joe Berry. Great guy. Made many stops in the projects when I was CHA PD only to turn and see Joe standing there.
overheard at GEU hq......
new GEU boss: Okay, let's put our people in the box!
staffer: uh, we don't have any boxes....
boss: that's bullshit! make some boxes!
staffer: okay, but....why?
boss: because, TRU had a 2,000% success rate, that is, when TRU was in the box, there were no shootings there (all of the shootings were out of the box....hah!); and....because I said so! (like first grade)...
staffer: so....all of our GEU people are supposed to drive around in boxes that are about 4 blocks by four blocks?
boss: yes! and that will remedy 50 years of gang and drug conflicts, stop tons of dope coming into the US from overseas, address the revolving door justice system, take care of joblessness, poverty, the disintegration of the family, and lack of education....now, get our people into those boxes!!
I posted the original GEU post, and have 2 responses:
1) it's not as easy as "just fill out a par form." I'm not the only one who Leo flat out refused to sign a par form for. We'll see how the new guy feels, but they aren't getting anyone so they hate to lose people.
2) I'm not an Internet tough guy, so calling me a pussy doesn't help. I DO my job, and if we were to run numbers, I probably do it better than you, with less CR's and lawsuits too. I've BEEN trying to leave, and I'll do my job wherever I get sent to the best of my ability, always have always will, meathead.
Anonymous said...
I'm in GEU and..
Oh, and the new commander is in over his head, so he reverts back to his "saturate the area" ways of TRU. News flash- TRU got axed for a reason, implementing their strategies in GEU will not be any more successful. Say hello to GEU, the largest civilian dress saturation team in CPD history.
4/10/2012 11:29:00 PM
Sure you're in gangs and not one of those disgruntled goofs that got launched from TRU and still holds a grudge?
Response To 4/11/2012 03:06:00 AM
I, too live within 008, have lived there since 1975, when we were forced out of 51st & May St. Back then it was the black gangs, PStone, Disciples, Sherman Park. Now it's the Latin gangs & their rivals in 008! On Sunday of 4/01 at about 9:15 PM , our garage was shot up by 30-40 rounds, casings lying all over garage apron in alley. Living with & caring for my 80 year old mother and I was scared shitless. Heard the shots, sounded like we were sitting in tent in Afghanistan! Neighbors were terrified! It felt like you were living in Chicago in the roaring 20's, hearing round after senseless round of gunfire. Luckily, no one was killed or injured. Sounded like it came from an automatic, too. Cops finally came, investigated bullet holes, one of them said it was "a misfired weapon." I'm not buying that explanation. Not when my neighbor's sidewalk was tagged the very next day. I'm getting back to that 1975 feeling in Englewood where I don't even feel safe taking out the garbage or mowing the lawn. Gang bangers walking all over here day & night. Gang bangers driving around in those stupid low riders with the blackened out windows. And the unaware immigrant neighbors around me let their kids run wild outside day & night! Don't they realize that it isn't safe in 008 to just let your kids be kids anymore? Don't they get it? Or don't they care? But where to move now, where to go, when nowhere is safe these days thanks to Rahm & McNutty. And let's not forget to thank Shortshanks for tearing down the projects so the whole city becomes a ghetto! Suffice to say, property values dropping to well below $50,000 in the 008, and those homes are not even in foreclosure. People just want to get the hell out of there, and at any price! It makes me sick to my stomach because this used to be such a great neighborhood. Within less than 10 years, you have to fear leaving your house. Every time I walk out the door, I cross myself and hope for the best. 008 ain't Englewood, but lately, it seems like it's not far from it. Not far at all...
Thats a great idea McSupe! That Gangs North, South, and West deal. I'd go with that. Sounds like a winner. You could call it SOG for short. Soldiers of Gerry.
How about putting a positive spin on things. Out of the couple million people that live in Chicago, less than 50 got shot last weekend and only five died. So in actuality there is less than a .1% chance you will be shot and an even smaller chance you will be killed. Those sound like good odds to me.
4/10/2012 09:20:00 AM
There IS a silver lining! I feel so warm, fuzzy and safe. Thank you.
I'm a retiree and I noticed right away that non retirees treated me like a asshole. I just stayed away then.
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