5,500 "Weapons"
The gun was one of more than 5,500 weapons — including several large, military-grade machine guns — replicas and BB guns turned in at the city’s annual gun buy-back program. Those handing over working weapons were given a $100 MasterCard gift card, while those who brought in replica or BB guns received $10 gift cards.
There were so many firearms turned in that police ran out of gift cards and said some people would have to come back next week to collect.
While officials were pleased with the number of weapons turned in, the total didn’t surpass 2007, when a record-breaking 6,700 guns were brought in to nearly two dozen churches.
So shootings and murders are up, but less guns are being turned in? Hmmmm.
Quite a few old, rusted, dangerous and non-functional firearms were turned in. Many had only the potential to be bludgeons.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
86 Comments:
Why were the gun turn in locations only in black or Hispanic neighborhoods?
Does the fact that they ran out of cards say anything about how few they were expecting to have turned in?
Maybe I just have a "perception problem"...
I'd like it to be known, I will pay 300.00 for "millitary grade machineguns".
What a bunch of wankers who don't know fuck all !
???????????
including several large, military-grade machine guns — replicas and BB guns
and NOT ONE of the 5,500 guns turned in:
1. was turned in by a shit head
2. saved an innocent life
3. is worth more than $100
the mope who owns the Tinley sports shop and lives in Suburbia turned in an amazing fifty plus useless weapons and walked out with five thousand...
What's the breakdown of guns vs. toys?
Any new Glocks turned in? I doubt it.
Anybody but grammamas and 12 year olds show up?
O.T.- Do you want to see an example of a lack of unity in our own department?
A guy from SWAT posted in a recent thread that they will no longer have take home cars and they won't receive sgt. pay. The response was usually smug like "oh well no one gives a shit", "who gives a fuck!", "you are not special", etc....
We are our own worst enemy. We are always bitching but we hardly support each other. Just read this blog, officers ratting out other officers or their bosses on a daily basis. But don't you forget, everything is the fault of Mayor Emanuel, the alderman, the liberals, the liberal media, etc... and none of it is our own fault.
The Zombie Invasion is coming.
My new self defense gun shoots "bouncy" .22lr's. They rattle around the body cavity, destroying all kinds of organs, so says firearm expert Sgt Jones.
Whose bright idea was it for the ot that no cargo pants and crown cap so I guess we can wear shorts then they didn't mention that in the message.
A neighbor went to several turn-in locations with a sack full of "Saturday Night Specials." He came back with a fistful of blue Chase Visa debit cards.
Now he's going to buy a couple of Glocks, complete with lasers and plenty of ammo with the proceeds.
Square deal.
Hmm, if only some of these people would just take them into a pawn shop or try to sell them, I bet they could have made a lot more than $100!! Of course where would they sell them in Chicago since there are little to no 'big bad gun stores'
Off topic but I propose we get nothing on our new contract. Just take 3 percent a year and put in our pension. I know you think I'm nuts but you guys better get realistic were gonna get fucked regardless. If we can put this out there thru our union that we are willing to sacrific a pay raise to shore up our pensions and keep our health care where it's at, nobody can smear us or make it look like our fault. I still have 8 yrs on and what is 3 percent gonna do for you especially if there is a hike in healthcare which will eat it up. The only thing that's important pension and healthcare. I read about swat, bomb squad , special employment. That stuff is so petty only two things matter the sooner you figure it out the better.
military grade machine guns
i call bullshit
liars
Off topic, but probably important to POs:
The attorney who got in trouble violating the Shakman decree in Streets & San, is now at CPD; TRACEY LADNER!!! If anyone gets cheated out of a promotion to a unqualified merit baby, or gets reemed on a disciplinary with time off, file a complaint. Contact Miller, Shakman & Beem, (312) 263-3700, and Noelle Brennan (312) 422-0001. If the city losex enough money through lawsuits, they'll get rid of Tracey Ladner.
---just a city worker
http://www.humboldtparkportal.org/news/4025
Even the community wants this political hack out.
guns don't kill people, Chuck Norris kills people
12 shot and 1 killed in 003 on Friday and Saturday...
pretty much every legit gun shop has a gun turn in program and you get cash on the barrel head for it and they do it every day.
I wonder how many of these guns were actually worth $100.
Yeah I question that military grade machine guns for 100 bucks too, probably doesn't fire, and HOLD UP if my math is correct we just spent 500,000 dollars on helping criminals get cash for crap when we could of spent that money on safe havens for youth to have somewhere to go while the criminals shoot it out every night, WTF why don't the lives of ghetto children matter???? Half million for smoke and mirrors wow can we get a stock price on smoke and mirrors cus the price keeps going up. MAYDAY!!!!
Had 2 old revolvers that I found in my grandparents house after they passed away. Both were over 30 years old and rusted shut. Took that $200 and put it towards a new 357 Magnum!! Thanks Chicago!! Lol
Not a cop
The dealer from Tinley was not a mope...
Heck, I think he is a genius! He took advantage of a libtard program and made a PROFIT? Can someone tell me where in the US Constitution it says you cant make a profit? I missed that part in High School.
I hope some sharp coppers were out there culling some of the real nice stuff like GI garands, 1911's etc, pulling the seller on the side and saying "hey friend, I can get you a helluva lot more than a hundred bucks for that!
They ought to run that buyback every month, I would have a helluva gun collection in a few years!
The military grade M-60 machine gun dumb ass was so proud of was also a replica not military grade anything, but gee who gonna question the 35th st morons looked good to the media.
OK I am to understand there are NO questions asked.. so HOW MANY of these weapons were used to KILL someone??? Nice way to DUMP a HOT weapon .. get paid for it.. and walk away with $$
I was working at a gun turn in point. For the record there were a few shitheads there turning in guns that were broken and would not fire, white people there and of course the people from the suburbes turning in tons of fuck up guns and laughing all the way to the store for some big purchases.
They ran out of $10 cards at 11:15 in 008. How do you run out an hour after the program starts?
Here is an idea for any alderthieves that surf this blog (and you know you do). How about at the next council meeting a motion is brought up to change the name of our shitty to Death Valley East. We could then sell Tee shirts and bumper stickers that say "I survived 7 days in Death Valley".
Anonymous said...
the mope who owns the Tinley sports shop and lives in Suburbia turned in an amazing fifty plus useless weapons and walked out with five thousand...
6/24/2012 05:19:00 AM
The guy doesn't sound like a mope to me. He sounds like someone who knows what he is doing.
two rebel TOUGH GUYS from 1st watch in 007 stripped !!!!!gotta keep dem hands to yourselves girls!HOPE EVERYTHING WORKS OUT!
nonymous said...
Why were the gun turn in locations only in black or Hispanic neighborhoods?
6/24/2012 01:41:00 AM
that sounds racist, like profiling male blacks four deep 4 am in the alley at harlem and Devon.......lol.
Another "feel good" useless, bulshit program. More smoke and mirrors put out by the left.
A white countryboy showed up to our southside location with 7 used rifles. These rifles still had price tags on them, ranging between $25 and $40. He got $100 for each.
Anonymous said...
O.T.- Do you want to see an example of a lack of unity in our own department?
A guy from SWAT posted in a recent thread that they will no longer have take home cars and they won't receive sgt. pay. The response was usually smug like "oh well no one gives a shit", "who gives a fuck!", "you are not special", etc....
We are our own worst enemy. We are always bitching but we hardly support each other. Just read this blog, officers ratting out other officers or their bosses on a daily basis. But don't you forget, everything is the fault of Mayor Emanuel, the alderman, the liberals, the liberal media, etc... and none of it is our own fault.
6/24/2012 06:54:00 AM
If you wanna play pattycake this might not be the blog for you.
No more out of grade pay for anyone. FOP is gonna be busy.
OT 6 days and FOP contract is over
no free health care for 55 and over , goes back to age 60 to keep coppers on for 5 more years .
cpd is screwed , everyone will lose duty availability but supervisors will keep 45 min a day comp time and $5 to 10 K a year in quarterly OT checks for doing nada.
Anonymous said...
Whose bright idea was it for the ot that no cargo pants and crown cap so I guess we can wear shorts then they didn't mention that in the message.
6/24/2012 07:54:00 AM
Hey Mr Know it all! Shorts are Class C, just like cargos. If they said you are to wear the crown cap that means Class B. NO SHORTS. Learn how to read an order. Might help ya someday.
I know a lot of gun guys that have brought in old junk guns in parts and made money instead of having to trash the junk.
Good deal!!!
Your tax dollars at work.
Anonymous said...
12 shot and 1 killed in 003 on Friday and Saturday...
6/24/2012 09:06:00 AM
Wow Commander Helm is doing a great job in 003, good thing they gave her a second bite of the exempt apple after being demoted. Gary you and her are showing some great leadership, on second thought she must have some really big clout. Will she go the way of Carothers? Stay tuned....
It's not tax money. It's privately funded.
I have two revolvers out there that were stolen out of my locker in my old district.
Nice reward to whoever finds either one of them.
Colt Trooper, .38 cal. 4 inch barrel, blue steel serial #914270
S&W Model 66, .357 Mag., 4 inch Magnaported barrel, stainless steel, serial# 9K97579
Both HOT LEADS and NCIC.
Stay safe, I will feel better about retireing if I get those back.
So, I'm just gonna take you to "Crazy Tangent Town" right now.
I'm going to take you back to the 1906 San Fran earthquake/subsequent fire.
Displaced people had no agency to back them up; no FEMA, no nothing. IIRC, the Red Cross set up shop in a park, and the displaced masses came there to seek shelter AND help each other out with their services. SFO was rebuilt to be a frigging boomtown.
The Great Depression: same thing, though all across the country: people GOT involved, helped their fellow mam out.
Then, due to the GD, came the whole New Deal, not a bad ideal, but one that had unintended consequences by eliminating the "human face". If there is no human connection/face, why NOT take the money, OR not bother with getting involved?
Here's where we have gone wrong. When people ACTUALLY gave their MONEY to a transparent cause, OR got involved, it was hard for people to screw THEM over.
The Government has no face, no persona. No REAL person to whom you fuck over. Hence, the easy-peasy path to violate the human condition.
So. What do we do about this? I look at the second amendment and say "hmm. A well regulated militia..." I get it.
I got 1.oo for my sling shot./
$10 Gift Cards for replica guns?
So, like, if I go to the dollar store, pick up a shitload of those .99 cent cap guns that are reasonably shaped like the real thing, hit them with some flat black spray paint, I'm making $10 a pop?
The Silver Mime from Michigan Ave came in and made a gun with his hand all day and made a killing.
Wow Commander Helm is doing a great job in 003, good thing they gave her a second bite of the exempt apple after being demoted. Gary you and her are showing some great leadership, on second thought she must have some really big clout. Will she go the way of Carothers? Stay tuned....
6/24/2012 04:35:00 PM
Hardly can blame Helm on this one. Look and see who she has working for her in 003...
04:03 what the hell are you talking about. The old contract stays in effect until a new one is reached
What's up with the Area 1 Detectives being watched for leaving early? Watch yourselves boys and girls.
To 4:03PM. While I agree that the contract does expire in six days, that does not mean we don"t receive every single benefit within the contract. Per Section 28.2, "this agreement shall remain in full force and effect after any expiration date while negotiations or Resolution of Impasse Procedure are continuing for a new Agreement or part thereof between the parties." Take a few minutes every once in while to read the contract.
It seems everyone in Area 1 now has to pay the price for a couple of old Area 4 goofs. Certain guys working short days and not even working the watch they are assigned to. Thanks a alot JA and crew. Now we all suffer.
Obama is now going after shooting ranges. Link to the harassment of Illinois Gun Works:
http://www.volokh.com/2012/06/23/osha-targets-shooting-range/
I understand 1 person came in with 67 guns, they had to issue him rain checks for the cards, I don't know where, when or if this is true, if so, Isure hope they get some info on this guy.
Cash for Clunkers, takes crappy guns off the streets and puts good ones back on.
Sounds like the old 009 tact teams, lots of gun turn ins with no heads!!
Right lemon head?
guy that owns Shore Galleries tip-toed away with about $4,000. I was there. got word that he may have done the same thing at another turn-in location that day. gotta love it. downward spiral continues.
well we all could have gone to the
"dollar" store and bought toys guns painted them black with cheap paint and turn them in for a quick ten each:)
i'm sure the "good" stuff was picked thru
though the idea of a gun class does make sense for some
and least help with getting a permit
and get a good inexpensive reliable firearm
i'm sure there is a few out there
As I saw the coverage on TV I thought to myself that the old people turning in these guns are the only ones to turn a profit in this city in years. I know I feel better knowing that the gereatric gang bangers have turned in some of their arsenal. Thank God we have taken the weapons out of the hands of the sweet old lady that has had a service revolver in the attic since Einsenhower was President. There goes a real threat. Perhaps our fearless mayor and the superintendant can organize a unity breakfest with some of are many great religious leaders to celebrate. No doubt the city will pay and invite some cameras, because some free eggs will be the lead story over the genocide that hits the neighborhoods all weekend long. Dont hire more police what we need is a good old fashioned march, and maybe Gerry can lead the hymms. We have enough publicity hungry assholes, we need a some leadership in the Mayors and the Superintendants office. They can sing these hymms all the way back to Jesey and Winnetka as far as I am concerned, and they can take their stats and throw them into the Hudson, because the Chicago shores of Lake Michigan are looking alot like the bloody shores of Detroit.
guy that owns Shore Galleries tip-toed away with about $4,000. I was there. got word that he may have done the same thing at another turn-in location that day. gotta love it. downward spiral continues.
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GOOD FOR HIM! If the jackass politicians and hand wringing fake revrunds are dumb enough to buy Mitch's junk guns, then he ought to be smart enough to take the money!
Meanwhile the city is is up for grabs, shootings everywhere, bodies stacked up at the morgue and victims spilling out the front door of Stroger.
How is that gun control thingie working out for you Rhambo?
You would think that a Jewish Guy who spent time in Israel would see the value in an armed competant populace, but you must have been too busy dancing or working on the Kibbutz to notice, eh?
I have two revolvers out there that were stolen out of my locker in my old district.
Nice reward to whoever finds either one of them.
Colt Trooper, .38 cal. 4 inch barrel, blue steel serial #914270
S&W Model 66, .357 Mag., 4 inch Magnaported barrel, stainless steel, serial# 9K97579
Both HOT LEADS and NCIC.
Stay safe, I will feel better about retireing if I get those back.
6/24/2012 05:46:00 PM
I noticed you mentioned "old district" it might have been a locker audit instead of a theft if you moved to a new district and didn't clean out your locker. I am sure you checked that out already..Screw it, You need to focus on your retirement.
We can only hope that the majority of these people are upgrading or already have and will use the money to buy ammo.
"...According to the 2011 Federal Bureau of Investigation's crime report released last week, violent crimes -- murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault -- dropped 4% from 2010 as gun sales rose 14% over the same period.
In fact, gun sales in the U.S. last year hit a record high at 16.5 million, up a whopping 65% from 2006. During that same time, the violent-crime rate dropped 23% nationwide.
But the good news story unfolding nationwide is not the case in Chicago, where 5,000 people have been shot to death since 2001. For much of that time, there was a complete handgun ban in effect.
Owning a handgun in Chicago has actually been banned outright for the past 28 years, but the murder rate continued to climb, reaching a peak in the 1990s when 900 people were being killed every year.
And while parts of the ban have recently been ruled unconstitutional, strict handgun laws remain in effect, and so far this year Chicago has seen a 50% jump in gun-related homicides -- already at more than 200 -- compared to the same time period last year.
Criminologists, though, are quick to point out they don't think there is a "magic bullet" when it comes to reducing crime. Improved policing methods, higher conviction rates, an aging population, even the rise of video games that keep more kids indoors are all cited as potential factors in the downward trend in the country's violent-crime rate over the past few years.
The National Rifle Association could not be reached for comment Wednesday, but a spokesman for the gun-rights group recently told the Washington Times that they believe the numbers are related.
"This is not a one-year anomaly, but a steady decline in the FBI's violent-crime rates," Andrew Arulanandam, the NRA's director of public affairs told the Times. "It would be disingenuous for anyone to not credit increased self-defence laws to account for this decline."
Gun sales, which are up 10% for the first six months of 2012 over the same time period last year, are rising so fast manufacturers can hardly keep up with demand.
In fact, Sturm, Ruger & Co. had to stop accepting orders earlier this spring to catch up with demand, having sold one million firearms in the first quarter of this year -- a 50% jump from the first quarter of 2011.
Smith and Wesson reported a 135% jump in sales during the first three months of 2012 from the first quarter last year. ..."
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2012/06/20/19900846.html
"...At the end of May there had been 760,000 more background checks then there were during the first five months last year. If this pace continues, the result would be an increase from 16.2 million NICS checks in 2010 to 19.4 million checks this year, according to the FBI.//"
http://www.examiner.com/article/firearm-sales-continue-at-record-pace-as-election-nears
04:03 what the hell are you talking about. The old contract stays in effect until a new one is reached
6/24/2012 08:07:00 PM
Save your breath, every time a contract expires multiple dumb fucks will write the same shit on the blog. 3 or 4 years from now, whenever the next contract expires the more dumb fucks will grace us again with their ignorance. They must think Richie was being kind by continuing to compensate them at the same rate.
"Hardly can blame Helm on this one. Look and see who she has working for her in 003...
6/24/2012 08:00:00 PM"
Thanks for chiming in Lynette, another incompetent clout heavy career housemouse in command.
Destroy all the guns. NO forensic work done this time. This will be the first time that forensics are not getting involved with the work up of the gun turn in.
We are still looking for the guns that killed Oficer Michael Bailey, Officer Jose Vazquez and Det. Robert Soto.
If found. The gun desk can trace the guns to possible suspects who purchased the guns. Or all types of possibles. Victims might have possible leads. Names on who might of burglarized the apartments and took the guns. Officers murdered. Mc Jersey is sure coming up with more new strategies. Leave the dead crimes dead. How about solving homicides. Maybe the guns come back to our suspects and now we can get charges approved.
The no questions asked were just for the turn in. NOT for other crimes connected with these guns.
My SGT said, they don't want to give us any possible leads or forensic help. What about the new gun unit starting up. What will they do. If we don't get witness or video. Forget it. Sad. I just hope its not true.
AREA CENTRAL
Ii agree with 8.26pm. If the contract expires the binding agrement is still in tact. You cant lose anything but can decertifie the union during contract talks.
Hardly can blame Helm on this one. Look and see who she has working for her in 003...
6/24/2012 08:00:00 PM
They should let the xo run it, great old school guy. Great Tact Lt. also. Who do you blame then? Santa Claus.
Anonymous said...
Yeah I question that military grade machine guns for 100 bucks too, probably doesn't fire, and HOLD UP if my math is correct we just spent 500,000 dollars on helping criminals get cash for crap when we could of spent that money on safe havens for youth to have somewhere to go while the criminals shoot it out every night, WTF why don't the lives of ghetto children matter???? Half million for smoke and mirrors wow can we get a stock price on smoke and mirrors cus the price keeps going up. MAYDAY!!!!
6/24/2012 09:39:00 AM
I bet the City puts the squeeze on the usual wealthy donors to come up with the cash. I think very little City money goes into this. It was a chance to get rid of old useless junk, little more.
Military grade machine guns, yeah right.
supervisors will keep 45 min a day comp time and $5 to 10 K a year in quarterly OT checks for doing nada.
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nothing but trying to keep lazy, complaining, no work ethic, self absorbed jagoffs like you out of trouble. Not everyone, just assholes like you.
Anonymous said...
Destroy all the guns. NO forensic work done this time. This will be the first time that forensics are not getting involved with the work up of the gun turn in.
We are still looking for the guns that killed Oficer Michael Bailey, Officer Jose Vazquez and Det. Robert Soto.
If found. The gun desk can trace the guns to possible suspects who purchased the guns. Or all types of possibles. Victims might have possible leads. Names on who might of burglarized the apartments and took the guns. Officers murdered. Mc Jersey is sure coming up with more new strategies. Leave the dead crimes dead. How about solving homicides. Maybe the guns come back to our suspects and now we can get charges approved.
The no questions asked were just for the turn in. NOT for other crimes connected with these guns.
My SGT said, they don't want to give us any possible leads or forensic help. What about the new gun unit starting up. What will they do. If we don't get witness or video. Forget it. Sad. I just hope its not true.
AREA CENTRAL
6/25/2012 02:17:00 AM
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I heard the same thing. Just destroy them.
This is like the Superman comic book. It is truly bizarro-land.
All the screw-ups get rewarded. The guys that actually care and are trying to do the best job they can get vilified and are treated like lepers.
And don't EVER do your job and come to management with a job-related issue. All you're told is "Stop your whining,I don't want to hear it".
Well,pretty soon all they're going to hear is the sound of that PAR form hitting their desk. Bye,Bye, idiots.
Gun buy back. The only way CPD can keep up the weapon recovery stats for the year.
To: 6/24/2012 08:56:00 AM
We all know Flores is an idiot but you have to remember, shutting down PR Fest cost the people complaining lots of money-and the city was justified 100% is closing that shitfest down. RiotFest is just a concert-that is all. A concert that will bring lots of people to Humboldt Park which they won't get any money for. It is about control and what the PR community views as being "theirs" and "their rights" in that neighborhood. Don't get me wrong though, dump Flores anyways.
I believe the replica M-60 and others are stolen proerty from one of the movie prop guys.
I do hope the city has the good sense to return them. We have already lost several major films here due to the politicians trying to steal as much as they can.
Also, a lot of regular, non-connected guys got a chance to make a little money in the films.
Garry will tout these numbers in his gun seizure figures, watch and see.
Liars figure and figures lie!
My new self defense gun shoots "bouncy" .22lr's. They rattle around the body cavity, destroying all kinds of organs, so says firearm expert Sgt Jones.
6/24/2012 07:49:00 AM
It's Sgt. Johnson not Jones numbnuts...
And yes, he is a gun expert... Just AX him...
Just talking to him for five minutes tells you the type of Caliber (npi) person he is.
Another Merit hack who stole a legitimate job from a more deserving and qualified person...
$10 Gift Cards for replica guns?
So, like, if I go to the dollar store, pick up a shitload of those .99 cent cap guns that are reasonably shaped like the real thing, hit them with some flat black spray paint, I'm making $10 a pop?
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No dumbass, you'd be making $9.01....hope you're not on the job.....
Years ago ('93, maybe early '94, ATF was prosecuting some asshole who was selling some real hardware to all the wrong people. Most of it was converted trash with home built MAC10 style silencers, a KG-99/TEC-9, there was an UZI 'B' model (converted) a couple kit built MAC's, and an M60 that had been demilled but welded back together (poorly, barrel could not be removed anymore) and some other trash. Off to the steel mill for meltdown, no tears.
But there were also two gems. 1) a Savage produced M1928A1 Thompson SMG, and 2)a Royal Typewriter New England built M1918A2 BAR (Browning Automatic Rifle). Both WW2 production. These two pieces were in 95%+ condition, I would surmise that they spent 4 decades after the WW2/Korea time period in some vet's attic. How they got into this scumbag's hands I have no idea.
Anyway, I point out to the ATF guy that most of this stuff is nothing special but that these two items are legitimate pieces of American military history and should be preserved in a museum somewhere. He says they will get melted down with the other stuff. I said something about him closing his eyes for 30 seconds and I make them disappear. He gets this look (ATF guy, remember) and says "Well, what would you do with them?" I tell him they are re-pouring the concrete sidewalk in front of my apt building in a day or two and I would go out there at zero-dark 30 and bury them there, then the crew would come along in the morning and put 2 feet of concrete over top. He says, "But then you wouldn't have them." I tell him the point is not that I have them, the point is that then they wouldn't be destroyed....and that is enough.
Anyway, you guys who are the real police stay safe out there, go forth and do bad things to bad people!
though gunshops buy everyday
they figure in the possible retail value and go half to start with
so I.E. if the gun is worth 100.00
they dicker for about 50.00
otherwise they can't make a profit.as for the guy hitting the gun with a hammer,...
is he brain dead?
i'm sure there is a tool for that
and far safer method
like i was saying before if any thing 'good" came thru somebody got it
"military grade machine guns...i call bullshit"
--6/24/2012 08:45:00 AM
I saw ONE M60 "on the table" with the rest of the stuff on TV.
>>>I noticed you mentioned "old district" it might have been a locker audit instead of a theft if you moved to a new district and didn't clean out your locker. I am sure you checked that out already..Screw it, You need to focus on your retirement.
6/24/2012 11:34:00 PM<<<
"...locker audit...", What a dumb, ignorant thing to write. It was 1992, and I was a Sergeant there for years before and after that happened. Guess why I finally moved out of that district.
I saw ONE M60 "on the table" with the rest of the stuff on TV.
6/25/2012 07:35:00 PM
...and now I'm reading here and, knowing the City, I'm thinking "replica" too. They only showed it for a second.
...and yeah, remember when the city actually had a movie business for a while? Then most of it went to Canada or someplace...it was an annoyance for working people downtown anyway.
Why don't they film on 79th Street? >pfft<
"My new self defense gun shoots "bouncy" .22lr's. They rattle around the body cavity, destroying all kinds of organs, so says firearm expert Sgt Jones."
--6/24/2012 07:49:00 AM
Yeah, the .22 kills, but maybe not for a week...
"Why were the gun turn in locations only in black or Hispanic neighborhoods?"
--6/24/2012 01:41:00 AM
Well, they DID say on TV not long ago that approx. 70% of shooters and 70% of victims here were black. Knowing what I see every day, you could probably fill in most of the other 30% with that carefully-meaningless, government-created obfuscation, "Hispanic."
So there it is...
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/06/daniel-zimmerman/guns-save-life-uses-chicago-buyback-send-kids-nra-gun-camp/#more-146086
$6000 raised for NRA kids shooting camps. Thanks Chicago!
"military grade machine guns...i call bullshit"
Maybe they were Fast & Furious guns.
Anonymous said...
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/06/daniel-zimmerman/guns-save-life-uses-chicago-buyback-send-kids-nra-gun-camp/#more-146086
$6000 raised for NRA kids shooting camps. Thanks Chicago!
6/26/2012 11:22:00 PM
LMAO. Screw you rahm and your bullshit p.r. stunts that you KNOW doesn't bring in the bangers illegal guns. Too bad the puppet papers don't have the balls to run with this story. Turns you hoplophobes into idiots.
I see the downstate "Guns Save Lives" organization collected and turned in 63 rusting pieces of former firearms now scarap to receive over $6,000.00 in gift cards that they will use to support their summer firearms safety camp for children in Bloomington.
Dear Lord, that is insanely ironic.
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