Dispatch Change Coming?
Chicago has quietly embarked on a dramatic change in 911 dispatch to free police officers to respond to the most serious crimes, Police Supt. Garry McCarthy disclosed Thursday.
McCarthy let the cat out of the bag while testifying before the City Council’s Committee on Public Safety on Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s plan to decriminalize small amounts of marijuana.
It happened when West Side Ald. Jason Ervin (28th) asked when Chicago was finally going to abandon an outdated dispatch policy that sends police officers to 70 percent of all 911 calls received, compared to 30 percent in other major cities.
McCarthy replied that the change was already under way, with the goal of creating, what he called “beat integrity.” That means leaving police officers to patrol their assigned beats, instead of chasing their tails by running from one 911 call to another at the behest of dispatchers at the Office of Emergency Management and Communications.
Beat integrity? We did that. 1993. And no one left it alone. What else ya got?
McCarthy said a more dramatic change is coming soon, when the Chicago Police Department determines “which jobs we’re not gonna respond to” anymore.
“That’s a call that I’m going to make — and there’s going to be some wrankling about that,” he said.
“We don’t need to respond to calls for service because, ‘My children are fighting over the remote control.’ We don’t need to respond to calls for service because, ‘My son won’t eat his dinner.’ Unfortunately, believe it or not, those are calls we actually respond to today.”
Ok, that's a step in the right direction. Can it be done?
- OEMC Executive Director Gary Schenkel has acknowledged that it won’t be easy to ween Chicagoans of the habit of dialing 911 at every turn. It will require a major public relations campaign to divert lower priority calls to 311 or convince crime victims to file their reports online.
Labels: crime, info for the police
posted by SCC at 6:01 AM
123 Comments:
How about screening out the nonsense calls? Civil nonsense along with the ghetto baby momma drama. Also those bogus man with a gun calls from the anonymous cell phones.
I remember as a PPO in 1994 hearing certain old timers tell the dispatcher to ask for their sergeant's permission before accepting any job off of their beat. Which was usually every call. I don't know if they were trying to drive the sergeant crazy or the dispatcher.
Just saw on 8am version of ch9 that another "big change is coming that will make waves"...that doesn't sound too good.
Regarding tickets for cannabis. I don't think the bosses gave Rahm the memo about the stats game. All the bosses know on the CPD is numbers and petty heads that generate more numbers. They never wanted us chasing robbery, burglary patterns etc. etc. cause that would mean the numbers would be down. Every week the Sgt.'s Lt.'s Commanders on up print our a sheeet to see what district has the most numbers. It's always been quantity over quality so rahm better get with the program.
Reduce manpower, reduce 911 calls, reduce salaries and cut pensions. That is the goal of this administration.
Per the Sun-Times: "The city of Chicago is paying fire department employees more than $80 million a year for perks that boosted their salaries by an average of more than $15,000 apiece last year."
Fire and police know that these "perks" were implemented so that salaries were increased to keep up with inflation without making those increases pensionable. The media is being spoon fed misleading information by the Mayor...as usual.
In the land of "Entitlement", West and South, the residents believe that they have a right to "Demand" and expect a police response when they feel it is necessary. Just as they expect ambulance service in lieu of a cab when they have the most minor ailment. Perception becomes Reality and the politicians encourage that in the world of entitlement. "When I call da Poleeze I demands dat dey showz up o I callun my alerman or Revend."
Will I still be playin' baby daddy when the little creatin misbehaves. I won't hold my breath.
I heard from two sources in Ladner's office that there will not be any promotions today or this summer. They want to keep P.O's on the street. And the rumor that the test is being scrapped are very real.
Any interesting official/unofficial response to last night's 1230am (Friday) shooting on the mag mile?Those are relatively rare...
The Rev'Rumds won't stand for it, I wouldn't bet the house payment that this happens (even though it should)
I am a police officer and believe in the broken windows theory. What the Chicago Police Department needs is true leadership. This will never happen in Chicago because the tiny dancer runs the department just like Daley did. The part-time aldermen that make over 100 K a year pick the commanders. The commander’s that get sexual favors from P.O.’s become the sergeants. It’s all messed up and it will never change. Eventually, we are all doomed, police officers and citizens. You can start to see the change. Just look at the escalating violence in the 18th District. If we lose the 18, say hello to the new Detroit.
Wait until somebody dies because a calltaker miscalculates the seriousness of a call. The pendulum will swing back big time.
Also, JJ and Sharpton will claim that this shortchanges their communities.
Nonviolent crimes should be reported online. I have been aproponent of this for years. If there is a need for police an algorithm can simply be created that determines whether the police district should be notified to send one out. It's not that difficult. It's just a matter of time. This is the future so might as well get a jump on it.
We don't need more policies. We need white shirts with balls. These silly calls could be 19-A'ed by any street supervisor. But they are not. Why? White shirts too busy b.s.ing around and not monitoring the radio per order? Too scared to interject?
" My children our fighting over the remote control" has a complete different meaning in the ghetto. This usually involves blunt objects and possible gun play. I love it. It's on him and he doesn't care because he'll be a footnote in Chicago Police history shortly. In the end it will cost the city more. I agree with not responding to a lot of crap, but we live in a liberal society that loves to throw money at people who can't take responsibility for themselves.
One thing to do. all these parkers,dope calls, curfews. Make it info for the police the dispatcher can read it over the air and file it away.
I say stack people,Every District has that Cop that stays down on a Disturbance for an Hour and goes shopping.
People lie to get us to come out,How many times have you had a man cut me off call, and the guy flashed a Gun.
It sounds like the ghetto superstars are going to have fall back on old reliable to get the police to respond to their bullshit , " I thinks he gots a gun".
you want to stop dispatching police on every call? make the call takers police again and they can handle what calls should be dispatched and not.
they ll all run into the police stations wanting a report.they ll stare like zombies at the desk crew and make nioses that its taking too long. they want that piece of paper in their hands, like its moses coming down from the mountain with the commandments.they panic and want more...when faced with less.
OT....article in Friday's Trib about State retirees now having to pay for medical that was to this point free. The cost will be tied to the amount of money the retiree gets in his pension.I am not sure if this affects state law enforcement, but it sure is a nasty harbinger of things to come.
Congratulations to the new Sgts and Lts. By the time anyone reads this they will aready have been notified. Good Luck and remember where you came from.
The south and west sides are burning out 911 like they burn out everything else.
015 on New Year's Eve (!) car was dispatched and held down on call to tavern, "caller says relative is in tavern drinking and wants well-being check."
Other night, during 97-degree heat wave and murder spree, 015 cars sent like four times to one address on "mental nephew won't take medicine," probably three times on "strange dog in front yard."
Bottomless, endless pit of trouble, problems, endless demands for service.
OEMC will manage to hang up on some elderly person in a quiet neighborhood calling for maybe the first time in their life.
You know how it works -- the manageable will be made to suffer because of the unmanageable.
This is nothing new anyway -- 311 says to call 911 and 911 tells you to call 311.
Online?
A. Not everyone is online.
B. Routine requests for city services -- potholes, unplowed sidewalks, etc. -- very often receive no acknowledgement at all when filed online.
The city web site works as well as anything else here -- it's a Potemkin village, a big glossy front with only a few sticks holding it up.
"...crimes where there is no danger to life or immediate danger to property (just discovered garage burglary)..."
Yeah, no danger. Officer Flisk was killed on one of these.
Detroit is shutting off street lights in some areas of the city...
Let it roll.
as retired suburban cop-911 is misused by the citizens of chicago.i cannot believe the 911 call on the remote domestic or the problem-eating dinner! cops got more important things to do
They still continue to avoid the obvious. Hire the nearly 2,000 police officers we're short. Plain and fucking simple. GOD, excuse me Lord, but come on! Officers lives and publics safety continue to be put at high risk.
All beat cars will be 99 shortly.
More re-arranging of deck chairs on the Titanic....
Can I still get event numbers?
no more baby daddy gets some trim
then baby mama wants him out calls
“When you start having that [violence] in a place where people generally feel safe, that’s when we start becoming Detroit,” said one alderman, who asked to remain annonymous.
I'm betting it was the guy from 19.
"I called. Ain't nobody got no guuuun. Pookie done won't go to da sto' en git my flamin' hots. Tell dat muthafucka to go gets my flamin' hots." Click, click go the handcuffs. Or are we gonna write tickets for that shit too?
OT:
From Worldnetweekly (WND)
Chicago's Unreported Race War
http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/chicagos-unreported-race-war/
SCC- Not sure if you saw this yet. Second City Cop is included as part of the debate- good article telling it like it is and raising the questions our media have somehow forgotten to ask. Plus some disturbing quotes from McCarthy and our media.
All that will do in the ghetto is, "my 11 year is disrespecting me, whatcha mean you ain't coming! Well he got a gun now, you coming now right. Fucking policees." The democrats have created a monster for the sake of votes. This is what we have because of them.
Lost reports are online for citizens all ready. Useless report anyways.
Well this I have to see to believe. Just the other day a female Chicago Police Officer ( tact)who is my neighbor, called 911,had a 2 person unit dispatched to my house, to retrieve a .99ct beach ball that her kids threw in my yard cause I would not give the ball back. With all the crime in 008th dist, shortage of manpower, she wastes a beat cars time to get her beach baal back. She is either ignorant, arrogant or both to wastes a beat cars time on this petty incident. A dispatcher should have told her a car will not be sent for this bullshit.
It won't last long, we service animals that cannot function without direction from civilized society. Their daily existence is not much different than the animals in the zoo and have been preconditioned to not acclimate into mainstream America.
Let's start with getting rid of the 4 hour retail theft.2inventories,case report ,arrest report,transport to holding district and let's not forget doing the state atty felony upgrades.
Oh look!
Bloodbath and Beyond moved to Michigan and Ontario Streets last night.
You know what's interesting?
It's interesting that FOP thinks that Fran Spielman, and Frank Main and now Dan Mihalopoulos at the SunTimes are their friends.
Look what SunTimes did for Rahm today. Managed to make firefighter heros look like greedy thieves.
Wise up! There are no friends in the press, they can't be managed, and certainly Shields is not going to "Enron economics" a good contract for the police.
We have to hope Rahm is gone before we get to Arbitrator.
And Shields needs to get off the Hire More Police idea to save our pension. Fire more Pension Advisors and Trustees to save Pension Fund.
So we're going to free up much needed officers so that they may attend to the more serious crimes.
By serious crimes, you mean like baby sitting political protestors that embarrass and call out the mayor and aldermen by demanding accountability for their actions?
OR
Maybe the other aldermen want 24/7 bodyguards and drivers too!
OR
Maybe we have more retired political figures like the ex-mayor that need taxpayer funded 24/7 CPD security
These people are robbing the taxpayers blind, plain and simple.
They have no God given right for taxpayer security. Hell, one of them is not even on the public payroll anymore. How much longer should the middle class taxpayer be punished by funding a millionaires security apparatus. That was not part of the city employment agreement.
Someone threatens an aldermen over 25 years ago and we are going to pay for his security into perpetuity? NONSENSE court order or no court order we can't afford this luxury.
They need security let them pay for it. THEY ARE MILLIONAIRES FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. How much are you going to take from the people AND "the children"?
STOP IT NOW!
If those CPD private security teams for Daley and Burke are freed to do their jobs in the communities and they save just one child from being shot than isn't it worth it?
How many school and park zone speed trap camera's has the mayor installed already ZERO??
How much money is pouring into the city from tickets issued by these cameras ZERO??
How many children have been saved so far because a speed trap camera was installed ZERO?
You know what this reminds me of?
Remember when the H1N1 flu outbreak that began in Mexico and came flooding across the US border?
The president assembled his DHS and Health department that is empowered with the responsibility to protect Americans to tell us all that: "the flu is already here and trying to do anything about it now is like trying to lock the barn door after the horses got out.."
Yeah, he blew off all accountability and refused to shut down the border to protect Americans because business might suffer.
If someone gets shot. Eff-it! Trying to do something about it now is like trying to lock the barn door after the horses got out right? It would be silly to waste manpower on that. Besides if they are gang affiliated all they are going to tell you is that "they heard a noise and then felt pain" Can't you just see it? You want to make out a police report go on the internet and fill out the report if you're shot. ha.
This needs to apply to all those NATO tourist that will be flooding the city soon with their sacks of cash in hand. (Has anyone seen them yet?) Should they get jacked up on the train and their Apple products snatched tell them to fill out an on-line report. What are we going to send someone out there for. The crime already happened. Tell 'em the horse and barn story...that's all.
Third-World Class City baby.
Well this I have to see to believe. Just the other day a female Chicago Police Officer ( tact)who is my neighbor, called 911,had a 2 person unit dispatched to my house, to retrieve a .99ct beach ball that her kids threw in my yard cause I would not give the ball back. With all the crime in 008th dist, shortage of manpower, she wastes a beat cars time to get her beach baal back. She is either ignorant, arrogant or both to wastes a beat cars time on this petty incident. A dispatcher should have told her a car will not be sent for this bullshit.
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Wait, the female CPD officer is the ignorant one? Sorry, I'm confused, because you wrote that you would not give her kids back a 99 ct beach ball! What the hell is your problem? You like to f*ck with kids or just cops? And, let me fill you in, the 911 caller (even if they identify themselves as the police) does not get to request a one or two man car. You only have yourself to thank for tying up police officers on bullshit. Get a life, you miserable prick! Maybe see if you can find some puppies to kick around when you're not taking kids toys.
WHen I first started, cops were dispatchers working out of outdated consoles at 1121 and they possessed the ability to basically say "not a police matter" man I miss those days!!!!
f those CPD private security teams for Daley and Burke are freed to do their jobs in the communities and they save just one child from being shot than isn't it worth it?
6/22/2012 02:49:00 PM
Burke has retired coppers,and why does the city treasurer still have D-3 paid valets? ERR police officers making lots of overtime why?? Who even gives a shit about the city treasurer no one even knows who she is! Is susie mendoza still trying to get or has she gotten a cpd detail?
"Remember when the H1N1 flu outbreak that began in Mexico and came flooding across the US border?
"The president assembled his DHS and Health department that is empowered with the responsibility to protect Americans to tell us all that: "the flu is already here and trying to do anything about it now is like trying to lock the barn door after the horses got out.."
--6/22/2012 03:24:00 PM
Yeah, the illegals kept piling off El Conejo in plain sight, except that they were wearing stupid blue surgical masks.
They actually marched like that in those masks, in one of their "No human being is illegal" rallies right at that time, remember?
The truth is as terrible as any fiction -- read Camp Of The Saints, by Jean Raspail.
I'll spoil the ending -- the conclusion is that Western society is doomed "because it lacks the moral fibre to shoot the invaders."
Off topic, but has anyone else seen this picture?
http://gs2ac.com/images/SAF_win.jpeg
It's a picture of a guy from the Second Amendment holding a $400,000 check from the city of Chicago, paid out by court order to cover their legal fees.
That's a lot of taxpayer money to be lighting on fire over some ideologue asshole's inability to let go and accept when hes defeated.
Yeah, excellent article --
"City officials and the media might be the only two places left where people still deny Chicago is under assault from more than 50 episodes of black mobs attacking, beating, robbing and vandalizing over the last three years in and around downtown. Many of them are on display at YouTube...
"Over just the last two weeks, black mobs are under investigation in at least five new violent incidents in downtown Chicago.
"And according to the award-winning police blog Second City Cop, there may be 25 more incidents of mob violence and lawlessness in that weekend alone that were never reported..."
http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/chicagos-unreported-race-war/
"Just the other day a female Chicago Police Officer ( tact)who is my neighbor, called 911,had a 2 person unit dispatched to my house, to retrieve a .99ct beach ball that her kids threw in my yard cause I would not give the ball back."
--6/22/2012 01:20:00 PM
Sounds like you have at least as many problems as she does.
Pookie won't be gettin his ass up fo school office, you beleee dat?!!
Anonymous said...
Well this I have to see to believe. Just the other day a female Chicago Police Officer ( tact)who is my neighbor, called 911,had a 2 person unit dispatched to my house, to retrieve a .99ct beach ball that her kids threw in my yard cause I would not give the ball back. With all the crime in 008th dist, shortage of manpower, she wastes a beat cars time to get her beach baal back. She is either ignorant, arrogant or both to wastes a beat cars time on this petty incident. A dispatcher should have told her a car will not be sent for this bullshit.
6/22/2012 01:20:00 PM
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What kind of jagoff are you? I would have called too just to have the cops there to protect me as a copper against your idiot mentality. Who knows what someone as crazy as you would say or do to jam me up on the job?
If you pulled that shit on my kids, you would be one sorry neighbor.
"Would anyone believe me if I told you that in just a few years I will have turned Chicago into Detroit?"
Garry
Honestly I just don't give a fuck anymore.
You mark these words: The ghetto rats will still be getting their police service. They will demand it. Joe citizens, off duty fire/police and retired fire/police, WE ARE ON OUR OWN. It is the same old story, the taxpayers will lose everything to the scum.
Retired
How many school and park zone speed trap camera's has the mayor installed already ZERO??
How much money is pouring into the city from tickets issued by these cameras ZERO??
How many children have been saved so far because a speed trap camera was installed ZERO?
6/22/2012 02:54:00 PM
You are a broken record. The law doesn't allow them to be implemented until after 01 July. You just can't WAIT to start receiving those tickets, can you?
Changing the CPD list of dispatchable/non-dispatchable calls for service is a third-rail boon-doggle.
It will give G-MACK a 600 volt shock. This place ain't Newark.
Well this I have to see to believe. Just the other day a female Chicago Police Officer ( tact)who is my neighbor, called 911,had a 2 person unit dispatched to my house, to retrieve a .99ct beach ball that her kids threw in my yard cause I would not give the ball back. With all the crime in 008th dist, shortage of manpower, she wastes a beat cars time to get her beach baal back. She is either ignorant, arrogant or both to wastes a beat cars time on this petty incident. A dispatcher should have told her a car will not be sent for this bullshit.
6/22/2012 01:20:00 PM
And what kind of childish nonsense is going on that you won't give her children their beach ball back?
I'm just guessing there's WAY more going on than you're saying, and she's just protecting herself in the situation.
Who cares, I dont go to these types of jobs anyway....drive right by and wave at the rats....can I still send traffic crach reports to the front desk???
Congratulations to the new Sgts and Lts. By the time anyone reads this they will aready have been notified. Good Luck and remember where you came from.
You fucking asswipe. How many times have I told you? I work in the Supe's office and Frank Wilson, Director of Finance has told me and the Supe that there are NO PROMOTIONS!
So stop posting this SHIT!!!
The real deal is: June 29th, there will be 56 Sgts and NO Lts promoted.
I heard from two sources in Ladner's office that there will not be any promotions today or this summer. They want to keep P.O's on the street. And the rumor that the test is being scrapped are very real.
6/22/2012 08:54:00 AM
How old is that test? that was P.C.'s crew setting up the study groups. There has been two new Supes and a new Mayor. New clout needs to be promoted. I suspect the list will be down. and don't bother taking the test unless you get The Invite........
911 "What's your emergency?" Call "Da shitters be all clogged up an shit!!!! Hurry!""
“…a 2 person unit dispatched to my house, to retrieve a .99ct beach ball that her kids threw in my yard cause I would not give the ball back.”
You’re the goof.
Why don’t you give back the ball?
I’m glad you don’t live next to me.
as retired suburban cop-911 is misused by the citizens of chicago.i cannot believe the 911 call on the remote domestic or the problem-eating dinner! cops got more important things to do
The elected and appointed officals told citzens to call for anything, after all, citzens can not do a prelimary investigation to see if a crime occured or not. We used to have po's at 911 to screen out bs - the civilian call takers can not.
I work at 018, These are jobs I got.The Valet is taking to long to get my car.I got poor service from the Waitress at the House of Blues, I think shes prejudice.
Anonymous said...
Well this I have to see to believe. Just the other day a female Chicago Police Officer ( tact)who is my neighbor, called 911,had a 2 person unit dispatched to my house, to retrieve a .99ct beach ball that her kids threw in my yard cause I would not give the ball back. With all the crime in 008th dist, shortage of manpower, she wastes a beat cars time to get her beach baal back. She is either ignorant, arrogant or both to wastes a beat cars time on this petty incident. A dispatcher should have told her a car will not be sent for this bullshit.
6/22/2012 01:20:00 PM
$$$$$
You are as ignorant as she is.
A beach ball. Really?
You could not have tossed it back?
as retired suburban cop-911 is misused by the citizens of chicago.i cannot believe the 911 call on the remote domestic or the problem-eating dinner! cops got more important things to do.
WE I WORKED IN TEH BURBS WE DID REPORTS FOR CIVIL CHILD CUSTODY VISTATION VIOLATIONS ARE REFERED THEM TO COURT EACH AND EVERYTIME! That was a waste too. But, had to UCR code everything including lunch. "WESCOM 9922 at ..."
Wake People! They won't blow off calls in the Ghetto. It's by YOUR houses that they won't send a car. Wait and see what happens in the 016th district. By the time the city gets through with this you won't have any P/Os in 016. You'll just have drive down to a satellite station and make a report or send it on line.
Road rage? McStats pulled that one out of 1994.
What's next, Garry? Having us race to close the bridges 5x a night?
http://www.suntimes.com/13339679-761/rare-mag-mile-shooting-a-case-of-gang-related-road-rage-police-say.html
This will last about as long as a Phart in Father Phlegars Church!
Da Pelon
What is the big secret? Why can't Mac Douche and his lap dogs just come out and say when if ever, and how many Lts. and Sgts. are going to be made. Fucking ridiculous!
Wrankling? I wasn't an English major in grad school, but WTH:
From Urban Dictionary:
A wrankle is a dent in your wrist where your fat build up after wearing a bracelet, watch, ect.
--No Cop Here
Well this I have to see to believe. Just the other day a female Chicago Police Officer ( tact)who is my neighbor, called 911,had a 2 person unit dispatched to my house, to retrieve a .99ct beach ball that her kids threw in my yard cause I would not give the ball back. With all the crime in 008th dist, shortage of manpower, she wastes a beat cars time to get her beach baal back. She is either ignorant, arrogant or both to wastes a beat cars time on this petty incident. A dispatcher should have told her a car will not be sent for this bullshit.
6/22/2012 01:20:00 PM
You sound like a real peach to live next to, glad your not my neighbor asshole.
Anonymous said...
I say stack people,Every District has that Cop that stays down on a Disturbance for an Hour and goes shopping.
6/22/2012 10:15:00 AM
That happens because a sergeant doesn't keep tabs on his people.
Anonymous said...
"Just the other day a female Chicago Police Officer ( tact)who is my neighbor, called 911,had a 2 person unit dispatched to my house, to retrieve a .99ct beach ball that her kids threw in my yard cause I would not give the ball back."
--6/22/2012 01:20:00 PM
Sounds like your a jag off, and after they showed up you gave it back because you were wrong. Glad your not my neighbor.
I heard from two sources in Ladner's office that there will not be any promotions today or this summer. They want to keep P.O's on the street. And the rumor that the test is being scrapped are very real.
So mcarthy interviewing merit picks for the last couple weeks was all for fun.
...one-thousand ninety-eight...one-thousand ninety-nine...READY OR NOT HERE THEY COME!!!
"Quinn signs new prisoner early-release law"
More signs of financial stress. We have no money for cops, we have no money to keep the prisoners in prison.
Let's just issued tickets and fines for everything because it's only the money that the political apparatus cares about.
The state of Illinois is number one in debt. $45 billion dollars. Cut mental health clinics and close the jails in response. Cut retirees pensions, and healthcare programs so we can continue to fund the healthcare of the 50 plus number of gun shot victims EACH AND EVERY WEEKEND! Jack up the state tax, the fines, fees, water and real estate to penalize ever single taxpayer in the city because of the cities bad management.
Oh, don't blame the politically clout connected firms given the pension money to invest for us all and made a mess of it while pocketing billions in fees for the mismanagement. Don't blame the city for not making their pension contributions as they signed onto. Oh no-no-no. It's the workers fault and they need to pay more if they want a pension.
I'll tell you what. Try running you finances at home like the state of Illinois does.
The state is $43 billion in debt and they run off cutting their own income by handing out million dollar corporate tax breaks to the CME Group, Sears, Motorola, etc...
Try that yourself.
If you fall behind on your mortgage or car payment. Give half your paycheck back to your employer because they are creating the jobs and then tell the bank or the company holding your car note that you have no money to pay them. Play the victim and demand that they need to renegotiate the deal. See how that works out for you. Tell 'em that they're greedy like the union employees are told they are greedy when they want what was promised to them.
Just keeps getting worse and worse don't it?
can someone clarify the sgt promotions stories The guy or gal on here is saying one thing that they work in Sup office and no promotions and the next sentence is Jun 29 56 sgts Why do fellow coppers keep fucking with people like that This job is like being in high school all over again except it is nowhere near as much fun Shouldnt fuck with peoples job know what I mean
Pardon me but doesn't this new policy go against the so-called "Broken Windows" methodology of crime fighting?
I mean just a short time ago we were all told that we need to sweat the little things because they prevent the bigger more serious crimes from happening!! Remember?
The police state is on it's way.
Martial law soon.
6/22/2012 12:17:00 PM
Isn't there a MCC for abuse of city equiptment?
IE the 911 call center..
Anonymous said...
How many school and park zone speed trap camera's has the mayor installed already ZERO??
How much money is pouring into the city from tickets issued by these cameras ZERO??
How many children have been saved so far because a speed trap camera was installed ZERO?
6/22/2012 02:54:00 PM
You are a broken record. The law doesn't allow them to be implemented until after 01 July. You just can't WAIT to start receiving those tickets, can you?
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Nope I can't and yes, yes I guess I am.
What's your definition of "implemented"?
You mean to tell me that we can't be installing the things and then turn it all on implementing the operation on July 1?
No wonder this city is f---ked-up.
Time is money. So how about the leaders being held accountable?
TURN ON THE RAHM MONEY MACHINES!. It's "for the children"
Install POLICE as dispatchers to weed out the bs. Make all fests and private venues pay for and provide their own security. Bam, significant change in police availability !!!!! Supervisors held accountable for down time by officers under their supervision. Hire more police !!!
while at it , get rid of that IDIOT Simone from zone 8 on 2nd watch!! What a toungue-tied mispronouncing idiot!And Youghall Axing Pam too!
Bolivian police are pissed about their wages. Video
http://tinyurl.com/84sty9f
6/22/2012 02:49:00 PM
Burke has retired coppers,and why does the city treasurer still have D-3 paid valets? ERR police officers making lots of overtime why?? Who even gives a shit about the city treasurer no one even knows who she is! Is susie mendoza still trying to get or has she gotten a cpd detail?
6/22/2012 04:14:00 PM
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So what if Burke's security is made up from clouted retired officers. Who's paying for it!? We have money for that we have money to put more CPD on the street. That's the bottom line plain and simple. If we can't afford more officers to stop the crime on the streets then what are these people doing with this luxury perk?
Are we going to wait for some other aldermen to get hurt and then file a lawsuit because the city did not provide him/her with the same protection and therefore their civil rights have been violated? Seems to me that's where we're headed.
And what a precedent for when Rahm retirees eh? Well the last mayor got taxpayer provided security for life, so Rahm should too... and every mayor after him.
Why the fuck didn't you just give back the beach ball?
What a huge beat off you are.
It's a blatant blame game by McCarthy. 911 dispatching may come out of OEMC but it is dictated by CPD policy. Crime is up, it can't possibly be McG-money's fault, so it it OEMC's. What a fraud.
Anonymous said...
I heard from two sources in Ladner's office that there will not be any promotions today or this summer. They want to keep P.O's on the street. And the rumor that the test is being scrapped are very real.
6/22/2012 08:54:00 AM
You heard nothing you troll. Expect a list around April 16th. Now go back to your basement apt.
6/22/2012 05:17:00 PM
Anonymous said...
How many school and park zone speed trap camera's has the mayor installed already ZERO??
How much money is pouring into the city from tickets issued by these cameras ZERO??
How many children have been saved so far because a speed trap camera was installed ZERO?
6/22/2012 02:54:00 PM
You are a complete goof. Who cares about the cameras? Stop posting this nonsense. The law takes effect July 1st. I hope you are the first to be caught by the speed cameras.
Anonymous said...
Wrankling? I wasn't an English major in grad school, but WTH:
From Urban Dictionary:
A wrankle is a dent in your wrist where your fat build up after wearing a bracelet, watch, ect.
--No Cop Here
6/22/2012 06:16:00 PM
Makes sense, since a 'cankle' is where your legs are so fat you can't tell where your calf ends and your ankle starts!
Ain't no revs in 16, so no service.....just watch
OK, just got in the door. Needed to think. I got a handle on it now.
"McCarthy said a more dramatic change is coming soon, when the Chicago Police Department determines “which jobs we’re not gonna respond to” anymore."
These -- McCarthy and Emanuel -- are the same assholes who entered stage right trumpeting about "broken windows," sweat the small stuff, drive street crime down.
Now it's ANOV the "gateway drug offenses," and don't answer half the calls you get.
I got it now.
911 calls for cops? The Irish Hamburgers didn't smoke the Ganges weed legal or not! They drunk mistrr Brow Brewskeees. There kids had strait teeth too! Now if you read the paper you know why firemen make more cash! There smarter than you coppers! Nya Nya Nya!!!
Fix the problem train oemc and their supervisors!
OT --
Talk about removed from reality. Can't believe this Emanuel character echoing the "food desert" nonsense. Thinks "street produce carts" are A. some great new idea that B. the city is going to control and license and regulate.
Jesus, spend five minutes in 025 on a summer night like right now; more crates of mangoes spilling into the street out the backs of cars, pink and blue feather dusters, anything you can imagine for sale out here. It's shading up past Irving Park Road, by the old Read hospital grounds, standard/weird combination of new condos with pickup truck loads of stuff for sale parked outside, anywhere there's a wide spot.
Third World.
Montrose looks like this too, lines of junk trucks on the curb outside the new condos. Getting up by Horner Park -- and dare we say "North Center" and Ravenswood Manor, where mayors and governors and congressmen live literally across the alley from the aliens who cut their grass cheap.
Hey, guy, the middle class is gone.
He knows this -- what better picture than sending Dept. Of Revenue after sticker violations where the cops and firemen live?
City eating itself alive.
Anyway, "food desert." I'm still laughing. Go see the crowd at Tony's Foods on Central that comes north in their automobiles, over the Milwaukee Road overpass from the ghetto -- loading up on huge on-sale trays of chicken parts and those extra-long loaves of spongy white bread, cases of little plastic bottles of blue sugar water to drink, and like 20 boxes of garlic-flavored instant mashed potatoes. Walked right past the produce section...
It's a trip.
Hey, the mayor is in tune with this city. He lives here. He left boxes in the basement, right? What a shithead.
A wrankle is a dent in your wrist where your fat build up after wearing a bracelet, watch, ect.
--No Cop Here
6/22/2012 06:16:00 PM
Is you alright? I mean, is you alright, my man?
Is yo name Bob?
Aw yaw get a wrankle when dey snatch yo Iphone?
Wan't no cop dere either.
"""Well this I have to see to believe. Just the other day a female Chicago Police Officer ( tact)who is my neighbor, called 911,had a 2 person unit dispatched to my house, to retrieve a .99ct beach ball that her kids threw in my yard cause I would not give the ball back."""
You are a loser.
So, our 1st Deputy in his news conference concerning the Mag Mile shooting, basically states it was road rage and could happen anyway. He goes on to say that he doesn't know where the two cars involved came from or if they came from "the North Avenue Beach".....
Victim is a Latin King......
But wait, we don't have gang problems at the north avenue beach. I thought it was all heat related issues. Why would the 1st Deputy even consider the parties involved came from the North Avenue Beach!!!!!! Why would he draw that conclusion.
If it was a gang problem that came off the beach, then how could it happen anywhere. A gang infested lakefront beach seems to have possibly been the catalyst for this.
Watch this comment slowly disappear and when an arrest is made, if it did come from an altercation at the beach, that fact will never make the light of day in a news conference concerning the arrest. Hopefully a reporter will ask A question about the beach.....
"When I first started, cops were dispatchers working out of outdated consoles at 1121 and they possessed the ability to basically say "not a police matter" man I miss those days!!!!"
--6/22/2012 04:11:00 PM
It was ideal. It made sense. You had street-experienced people that way, with a picture of the whole scene in their mind. They had often worked the district before getting older and sitting down to dispatch it. They could PRONOUNCE the names of the streets. They could tell one side of the city from the other. They knew "Ridge" was not "Ridgeway." Knew the rough bars, knew the "put 'em on the list" crazy callers, knew the bad alleys where they'd try to trap squads in with dumpsters and then bomb from the rooftops, etc.
What, now a GED will get you on a five-way chair in an individually-air-conditioned "work station" at OEMC? It'll put you behind a pharmacy counter these days, too. Dangerous all the way around...
they ll all run into the police stations wanting a report.they ll stare like zombies at the desk crew and make nioses that its taking too long. they want that piece of paper in their hands, like its moses coming down from the mountain with the commandments.they panic and want more...when faced with less.
they already do. Work the desk sometime...Absolutely right -- that piece of paper with the RD is gold.
can someone clarify the sgt promotions stories The guy or gal on here is saying one thing that they work in Sup office and no promotions and the next sentence is Jun 29 56 sgts Why do fellow coppers keep fucking with people like that This job is like being in high school all over again except it is nowhere near as much fun Shouldnt fuck with peoples job know what I mean
6/22/2012 07:48:00 PM
Dude...It's a blog...Get a grip...I hope you aren't too high on the list if you are that worried about a promotion and the rumors that abound. I'm sure you'll be a superb sgt. with that attitude know what I mean.
We don't need more policies. We need white shirts with balls. These silly calls could be 19-A'ed by any street supervisor. But they are not. Why? White shirts too busy b.s.ing around and not monitoring the radio per order? Too scared to interject?
6/22/2012 10:01:00 AM
I agree spvr's should monitor and have some balls, but was always told you don't really want to 19-A the call, because that means it wasn't real, and didn't count toward some stats; because you didn't do anything, because there was nothing to do.
19-P would be a better choice. Remember -- Ain't no job too big or small to be handled with a 19 Paul.
Lazy sgts don't monitor the zones why because they don't give a shit about what jobs we get. They don't get the jobs and in fact they don't even go to jobs too busy taking 2 hour lunches but still getting their 30 minutes everyday. Too busy to even log us, call you on your cell for a location. Take that bullshit cr number thanks sarge for being a ball-less fucking do nothing. Too lazy too even rate us properly. We are supposed to get rated by multiple sgts and if the ratings are different they are supposed to meet with the wc to discuss it. That is way too much work for them so they only use one sgt to rate us so they don't have to deal with different ratings and meetings to discuss why. Violates the order and their ethical code but who cares it's just a bunch of po's.
Don't fucking lecture me sarge when you guys are stealing the city blind just go finish your log and drink your coffee (oops I mean cool aid) and do rahms dirty work for him. Maybe someday you'll make lt and steal even more and give bull shit lectures about ethics and how we have such a great fucking job.
Save your bull-shit for the ppo's, fuck your missions, let me be the police and do my job another salty copper
“When you start having that [violence] in a place where people generally feel safe, that’s when we start becoming Detroit,” said one alderman, who asked to remain annonymous.
I'm betting it was the guy from 19.
6/22/2012 12:03:00 PM
Who is a better friend to the police than most know. Ask Bill.
Desperation has hit a new low! Pretty soon victims will be cutting their own case reports for everything.
How frickin pathetic the CPD has become.
As if manipulating the bike theft stats is going to do anything for Emanuel or McCarthy. They'll sink or swim with the murder rate.
Detroit? Titanic? I see the Chicken LIttles have come home to roost. As my cabdriver buddy said the other day, it still ain't nothing like the 90's. We'll get in front of this.
So I'm the troll and you are predicting a class April 16th? Go fuck yourself pussy. The Sup can interview all the people he wants... Finance isn't giving him the funds asshole.
How many school and park zone speed trap camera's has the mayor installed already ZERO??
How much money is pouring into the city from tickets issued by these cameras ZERO??
How many children have been saved so far because a speed trap camera was installed ZERO?
6/22/2012 02:54:00 PM
You are a broken record. The law doesn't allow them to be implemented until after 01 July. You just can't WAIT to start receiving those tickets, can you?
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Nope I can't and yes, yes I guess I am.
What's your definition of "implemented"?
You mean to tell me that we can't be installing the things and then turn it all on implementing the operation on July 1?
No wonder this city is f---ked-up.
Time is money. So how about the leaders being held accountable?
TURN ON THE RAHM MONEY MACHINES!. It's "for the children"
6/22/2012 08:17:00 PM
Are you impaired, or what? Every red light camera IS a speeding camera. Nobody has to dig anything up to change software. You're starting to be a little scary. Take your meds and get some rest. Really.
who cares if they run to the station. what i tell at the people at the desk is take your time they`ll eventually get a hint
WHen I first started, cops were dispatchers working out of outdated consoles at 1121 and they possessed the ability to basically say "not a police matter" man I miss those days!!!!
6/22/2012 04:11:00 PM
Yes and there were 75% less peronnel handling the entire city seamlessly. When they removed the police from dispatching, the number of personnel nearly quadrupled. So much for saving mony.
I got a call from baby mama that her son was "crazy." Son was 7 and was hungry. Baby momma said she bought a box of cereal the week before and the kid ate it all already. True story.
Kid is now 12 and has arms full of gang tats and hasn't gone to school in at least a year and is firmly in the grip of the gangs. He is lost at age 12. Baby momma no longer has to buy cereal. I put a DCFS case on her for child endangerment. DCFS "investigated" and absolved her of any wrongdoing.
I don't bother calling DCFS any more except as required by law. They do nothing and are good for shit.
This was on the north side. And yes, I know the west side is full of stories like this.
Once the OEMC dispatch policy goes into effect just watch how fast gun calls and shots fired calls increase. Every assholes already knows that you get the police when you want them.
Lazy sgts don't monitor the zones why because they don't give a shit about what jobs we get. They don't get the jobs and in fact they don't even go to jobs too busy taking 2 hour lunches but still getting their 30 minutes everyday. Too busy to even log us, call you on your cell for a location. Take that bullshit cr number thanks sarge for being a ball-less fucking do nothing. Too lazy too even rate us properly
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Another disgruntled fuck who needs all of the following:
1. Supervisory handholding.
2. Someone to take the "burden" off his shoulders because he can't figure out how to pace his day.
3. Someone who'll listen to HIS side of every fuckup he commits (which sounds like a lot)
4. Someone who'll look past all his fuckups and rate him far higher than he actually deserves.
Hey fuckup, learn how to do your job SANS the handholding.
Learn how to do your job WITHOUT STARTING CR'S AGAINST YOURSELF.
Just learn how to do your job...maybe you'll get a higher rating (Like that means shit).
Lose the "fuck you sarge" attitude.
Learn how to do your job correctly, maybe then your "sarge" will let you do it without the handholding.
And as for letting you "be the police"? Sounds like you can't do it without getting those CR's you keep whining about that you think that "sarge" whom you try to piss on should be getting you out of.
Whiny fucks with shit attitudes get treated as such, but then again most of them are too stupid to understand why in the first place.
Good luck lasting until retirement.
tiny dancer was yapping again about how 80 percent of all marijuana cases involving small amounts are thrown out of court--- excuse me mr racoon, when was the last time you sat down in a misdemeanor court in cook county--- 80 percent of all cases are thrown out ( pissers, usb's, drinkers, reckless conduct, etc...)--- now how about felony dope court--- suprise, large percentage of one baggers are npc'ed so why not ticket all these guys as well--- officers will still have to inventory suspect cannabis in a police station--- no time will be saved at all--- more grandstanding and trying to deflect away from the glaring problem which is a manpower shortage---- richie "poopy pants" and now you have played this dangerous game of seeing how low the manpower can go---- "possum head" weis wanted more hirings and was shut down by the fifth floor--- now it is biting you in the ass and you are setting up mcjerseyshore to be the patsy when the whole house comes down....
Lazy sgts don't monitor the zones why because they don't give a shit about what jobs we get. They don't get the jobs and in fact they don't even go to jobs too busy taking 2 hour lunches but still getting their 30 minutes everyday. Too busy to even log us, call you on your cell for a location. Take that bullshit cr number thanks sarge for being a ball-less fucking do nothing. Too lazy too even rate us properly. We are supposed to get rated by multiple sgts and if the ratings are different they are supposed to meet with the wc to discuss it. That is way too much work for them so they only use one sgt to rate us so they don't have to deal with different ratings and meetings to discuss why. Violates the order and their ethical code but who cares it's just a bunch of po's.
Don't fucking lecture me sarge when you guys are stealing the city blind just go finish your log and drink your coffee (oops I mean cool aid) and do rahms dirty work for him. Maybe someday you'll make lt and steal even more and give bull shit lectures about ethics and how we have such a great fucking job.
Save your bull-shit for the ppo's, fuck your missions, let me be the police and do my job another salty copper
6/22/2012 11:39:00 PM
They leave you alone and you are calling them on it? You are an absolute fucking idiot.
And you talk them about doing rahm's dirty work? Getting rid of jobs would be doing rahm's dirty work, so you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. You aren't a salty copper. You are just a whining, jealous, little bitch. Fuck you.
I can relate to the beach ball guy. I have a kid next door to me that throws everything in my yard: garbage, clothes pins, toys, balls, clothes hanging from their clothes line. Lets not forget, putting their garden hose down my dry shoot, putting random things into the fan of my a/c unit... yeah, gets old after a while. Parents play the dont speak english game with me. So yeah, i can understand not giving a ball back. Fuck em!
The interviews for merit Sgts were still going on as of Friday the 22nd. I believe this may have been the last scheduled interviews. This is fact. So maybe in the next week or two?
Hey fuckup, learn how to do your job SANS the handholding.
6/23/2012 07:31:00 AM
He won't capiche no french. He's a whiny little ignorant fuck. You should have told him to pound SANS up his ass!
To the asshole that stoled the kids beach ball , whether its 99 cents or 99 dollars doesn't matter, YOU ARE A CRIMINAL!! And as far as the police officer, whether its a female or male did absolutely the right thing by calling the police. This is how off duty bullshit starts when you try to deal with an asshole instead of calling the police.
And I hoped the officer called the district which I'm sure you dont know who was called 911 or the district. No sympathy here asshole, what are you 90 yrs old? Did the ball land in your tulips? Get a life
This idea of not responding was floated in 1993. It went no where because the supervisors at OEMC didn't have the balls to back the dispatchers when they made that decision.
That and the fact that the city has for the last 50 years burned into the public's mind that if you have ANY kind of problem, call 911. No need to handle your own life.
The city ain't got the balls. About the only way to wean the ghetto from 911 is to have an extended "service outage" that just happens to go on for 3 months.
" My children our fighting over the remote control" has a complete different meaning in the ghetto.
Believe me, it's not just in the ghetto. Come up to Liberal land on the north side.
Thank little richie daley for this. After 22 years of "I want the police to come to my house because my son is disrespecting me" it ain't going to change over night.
Anonymous said...
Lazy sgts don't monitor the zones why because they don't give a shit about what jobs we get. They don't get the jobs and in fact they don't even go to jobs too busy taking 2 hour lunches but still getting their 30 minutes everyday. Too busy to even log us, call you on your cell for a location. Take that bullshit cr number thanks sarge for being a ball-less fucking do nothing. Too lazy too even rate us properly. We are supposed to get rated by multiple sgts and if the ratings are different they are supposed to meet with the wc to discuss it. That is way too much work for them so they only use one sgt to rate us so they don't have to deal with different ratings and meetings to discuss why. Violates the order and their ethical code but who cares it's just a bunch of po's.
Don't fucking lecture me sarge when you guys are stealing the city blind just go finish your log and drink your coffee (oops I mean cool aid) and do rahms dirty work for him. Maybe someday you'll make lt and steal even more and give bull shit lectures about ethics and how we have such a great fucking job.
Save your bull-shit for the ppo's, fuck your missions, let me be the police and do my job another salty copper
6/22/2012 11:39:00 PM
Another salty copper? I didn't know bullshit was salty. What a moron. Complaining about sergeants who don't ride on coppers asses. There certainly all types of idiots on this job.
The best old salty coppers when I came on knew how to keep their mouths shut and rarely complained about bullshit. No one wanted to see a sergeant show up on their jobs back then. When I was new and asked a sergeant a question on a job he shot back at me, "you're a police officer, you handle the goddam job, don't call me with bullshit again."
This idea of not responding was floated in 1993. It went no where because the supervisors at OEMC didn't have the balls to back the dispatchers when they made that decision.
That and the fact that the city has for the last 50 years burned into the public's mind that if you have ANY kind of problem, call 911. No need to handle your own life.
The city ain't got the balls. About the only way to wean the ghetto from 911 is to have an extended "service outage" that just happens to go on for 3 months.
6/24/2012 12:12:00 AM
(1) OEC, now OEMC, did not exist until late 1995. In 1993, the Communications Section of the CPD was still located at 1121 S. State and staffed by CPD personnel.
(2) 911 did not exist 50 years ago in the city of Chicago. It is roughly 35 years old within the boundaries of the city.
(3) Your sarcastic suggestion of a service moratorium in the ghetto as the only solution to retrain the residents is drastic, but near correct.
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