"Close Election"
With the mainstream media going on and on all day about a "dead heat" in Wisconsin recall elections, we were all set for a long night of surfing the web and watching the news until some sort of result came forth. The democrats had some 400 lawyers on call in Wisconsin and applied for injunctions to keep the polling places open late.
And after all that noise and tens of millions of dollars spent?
- The Associated Press and several TV networks have projected a narrow win for Republican Wisconsin Scott Walker, as votes continue to be counted across the state.
Narrow = 10%. Talk about spinning the numbers.
Labels: national politics
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
66 Comments:
The FOP spent our money in WI, and didn't move a single bill in Springfield.
Ed Schultz crying on MSNBC shows how impartial the media is.
He will have to commit hari-kari in November when Obama goes down!
Don't need lawyers to keep the polls open late in Chicago, the dead can vote anytime.
Stupid cheese heads!
the were spinning some BS numbers for obozo in the exit polls also.
Obama and the dems were watching this one closely. They seriously believe that this was a litmus test for how things will go in November and were looking for a dem victory here. I know the lefty liberals were talking A LOT about having a recount. Problem is, somebody has to PAY for all this bullshit.
This morning on a Milwaukee TV news/talk segment, they asked who would be paying the estimated $18 to $20 million in recall election costs and they said it was NOT all being paid for by the State. Most of it will be paid for out of the budgets of the townships and villages throughout the state and it was suggested that we may not recognize how this will be affecting everyone until there is no money left when it comes time to pay for road salt or snow plowing. Typical Democrats though, spending someone else's money to try to force everyone into accepting what the Dems want, but NO ONE ELSE
We desperately need a governor walker here to break our union, end collective bargaining rights, and reestablish the marketplace as the final arbitror. Unions are for suckers, and I personally trust our elected officials to ensure our income levels maintain parity with the private sector. Ideas about getting rich off the the state have proven antiquated. We need freedom, not more communistic union rabble working to inflate our wages.
Everyone thinks and the Democrats always blame the Republicans for being union busters, while the Dems are all FOR the working class. Fact is, NOBODY is helping the working class anymore. The Republicans are all in for the corporations and the Democrats are actually Socialists who only care about the non-working welfare class to keep voting them into office to continue the government entitlements and free government cheese paid for by the working class while the millionaires and politicians laugh at all of us.
The American dream... where did it all go so wrong?
Illinois next cant wait to they rid them selves of all the union problems here.
Yes and the Milwaukee police union as well as the Union that represents the Wisconsin state Patrol supported Walker. Worker has promised not to take away any collective bargaining rights from police or fire. They still pay zero toward their pensions and health care. Time to elect a republican governor in Illinois. And Walker signed Concealed carry.
Walker never touched police or fire. I wish he were our governor. Wisconsin police and fire pay zero for pension and theirs is safe. Wow.
Look at the news. Everyone is reporting the Walker victory as advantageous to Romney, but in true communist propaganda style, the Chicago ScumTimes reports it as beneficial to ObaMAO.
How pathetic. What does this tell you about our so called reporters? They carry water for socialist scum and other assorted criminals.
Now don't forget to go vote for the Democratic Machine. Fucking fools.
01:23:00 AM. Nicely put.
Great! Now it is time to elect a leadership in Illinois to do the same thing here. I hope this spreads around the country
The American dream... where did it all go so wrong?
6/06/2012 01:32:00 AM
The American dream was built on hard work, but was given considerable help by the destruction of Europe and Asia in WWII. Now that these countries are recovered they are competing on the world stage which forces this country to do likewise.America was devasted by the depression and it took the war to bring it back with manufacturing. Now, manufacturing has left this country for lower wages and benefits overseas. The public sector unions have gotten much in the past but now it is not sustainable. The teacher's unions are bankrupting the governments. The Wisconsin voters, along with Ohio and a few other states have had enough. Illinois would be next except for the fact the unions bribe our leaders. When the teacher's pension fund goes belly up they will be crying.
Anonymous said...
Stupid cheese heads!
6/06/2012 12:44:00 AM
The ONLY stupid cheese heads are the ones who WANTED to recall Governor Walker.
It would be comical to see this kind of pro-union buster nonsense on here if it weren't so totally pathetic.
Yeah, let's keep shredding collective bargaining rights until nobody but police can join a union. That will fix everything!
This vote is pretty much the end of unions in the United States.
The vote really shouldn't have been about the unions though, it should have been to eliminate the democratic/republican machine. It has to end one day...
The writings on the wall. The public sector unions, long ignored while the economy prospered has now come under everyone's sights as the economy has tanked. People are naturally envious and the private sector has been raped. Our pensions will become a thing of history and it will happen soon.
police and fire will be included in pension reform>per drudgereport.hmmm residency?
So, Chicago Police have a Union that I assume is involved in collective bargaining. Why are commenters happy about a Walker win?
This is a sad day for all hard working Union employees!
Band together now - start planning for an attack.
Prepare to defend your very souls!
Fellow Officers,
Let's not forget what this date in history is about, the greatest invasion in the history of the world, Normandy. Take a moment and pray of prayer of thanks and remember the ones who gave their all. Their souls appreciate it.
All the money used for the recall should be paid back to the townships by the people who signed on to recall the Governor and his other partners. Elected officials should NOT be recalled because some little Brats didnt get their way. These spoiled Brats must be forced monetarily to be responsible for their irresponsibility. Gee, kind a like a bunch of others in our society.
By the way, all the people who were challenged WON AGAIN. It makes me proud to be a Republican.
The Trib and Sun Times certainly spent a lot of space covering this reelection. It makes you wonder in what state we are living in, Wisconsin or Illinois? Both papers have such a hard on for the Dems in Wisconsin.
The 2010 Wisconsin gubernatorial election was already a referendum on Obama and the Dems. Scott Walker and the Republicans won that election. Now, less than two years, referendum 2.0 and the same result occurs. I think it's pretty clear the Republicans have the upper hand in Wisconsin at the moment.
Lastly, Lynn Sweet must have drank a 40oz of that Obama kool-aid last weekend when Barack was in town. Her most recent article is a great example of spin.
God bless Governor Walker. Congrats on his landslide win. Yes. Landslide. The lefties up there are out of their minds. Walker didn't take away anyone's pensions. He didn't do anything unreasonable. It's disgusting that the FOP spent OUR money up there. Watch who you align us with. Who is next to stand next to? Karen Lewis and the CTU?
God bless Governor Walker. Congrats on his landslide win. Yes. Landslide. The lefties up there are out of their minds. Walker didn't take away anyone's pensions. He didn't do anything unreasonable. It's disgusting that the FOP spent OUR money up there. Watch who you align us with. Who is next to stand next to? Karen Lewis and the CTU?
How do i find out what our union uses dues on. If you want out they still hit you with fair share $12 a paycheck. Whats that spent on mikeys cars? I want out so bad screw these thieves.
Anonymous said...
We desperately need a governor walker here to break our union, end collective bargaining rights, and reestablish the marketplace as the final arbitror. Unions are for suckers, and I personally trust our elected officials to ensure our income levels maintain parity with the private sector. Ideas about getting rich off the the state have proven antiquated. We need freedom, not more communistic union rabble working to inflate our wages.
6/06/2012 01:23:00 AM
Tell me, which police department in the private sector is there that we might aspire to have parity with?
You must be sucking at the fountain of Management & Labor Affairs to be spouting such management horseshit. You "personally trust our elected officials."?????? Come on, this must be Rahm Emanuel himself trolling our blog.
If not then where are you from? The Duchy of Grand Fenwick? Lower Kissrumpia? You clearly have been imbibing in way too much Unobtainium.
Get to a Twelve Step Program immediately.
Anonymous said...
We desperately need a governor walker here to break our union, end collective bargaining rights, and reestablish the marketplace as the final arbitror. Unions are for suckers, and I personally trust our elected officials to ensure our income levels maintain parity with the private sector. Ideas about getting rich off the the state have proven antiquated. We need freedom, not more communistic union rabble working to inflate our wages.
6/06/2012 01:23:00 AM
...Amen to that brother. Unions are for chumps.
Spin is right, he won first election 52-48%, now wins 54-46% and media calls it narrow victory. Obama won 52-48% and that was a landslide according to media.
This is a victory for good government, not a strike against unions. I will take cost of living raises and forego bargaining if we could ensure lower unemployment, govt surplus budgets, and lower property taxes which is what is happening in Wisconsin.
A big raise will serve no purpose if the state is bankrupt.
Where are all the Democrats from out of town to organize the take over of city hall and capitol building in Springfield?
Didn't the teacher union lose a 4% pay raise , quinn and madigan want to reduce pensions and health care?
Difference is we pay into our pension and wisconsin did not , it's a one way street . Time for RNC to organize Illinois voters for nov , ill needs a 90 % turnout to get rid of crooks.
To: Hey I'm just sayin...you Sir or Ms. are wise beyond your age. This is the problem with American politics and governance, within the whole country, and especially Illinois! God help us!
Did you notice, nothing was said about the millions of dollars worth of time&manpower "donated" by the unions, also all the costs, hotels, signs etc?
"The FOP spent our money in WI, and didn't move a single bill in Springfield."
In case you were wondering:
The Town of Springfield, located in northwestern Dane County, Wisconsin is predominately a farming community. The town is about six miles square bordering both sides of U.S.Hwy. 12.
A population of approximately 2,848 enjoy the rural atmosphere, with its gently rolling topography. We are served by three different school districts, four post offices, three EMS departments and two fire departments.
http://www.town.springfield.wi.us/
Apparently they're not served by a police department, at least according to this.
Former president Bill Clinton caused additional headaches for the Obama campaign on Tuesday when he told CNBC that he wouldn't have a problem with Congress temporarily extending all the Bush tax cuts, which are due to expire at the end of the year.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/05/bill-clinton-country-is-i_n_1572069.html?ref=election-2012-blog&ncid=webmail1
Obama should have known better than to team up with Bill "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Clinton in the first place.
If Ed Schultz does do the right thing and commit seppeku this November I hope MSNBC has the decency to air it live.
I might have to get TiVO.
http://news.yahoo.com/2-california-cities-voters-embrace-pension-cuts-102049905--finance.html;_ylt=A2KLOzEdQs9PiTYApcXQtDMD
2 California cities voters embrace pension cuts
By ELLIOT SPAGAT | Associated Press – 59 mins ago
...not police yet....
Please hurry up and move back to preFOP Police Department
Read the 5000 Year Leap by by Cleon Skousen and you'll understand where we went wrong.
Hey, I'm Just Sayin, said...
Everyone thinks and the Democrats always blame the Republicans for being union busters, while the Dems are all FOR the working class. Fact is, NOBODY is helping the working class anymore. The Republicans are all in for the corporations and the Democrats are actually Socialists who only care about the non-working welfare class to keep voting them into office to continue the government entitlements and free government cheese paid for by the working class while the millionaires and politicians laugh at all of us.
The American dream... where did it all go so wrong?
6/06/2012 01:32:00 AM
Here here brother. But one exception, see through the veil on thinking the democrats only want to help the non-working welfare class. There are industries, organizations, and big-time college programs designed for these social service issues. It creates jobs just like crime does. Now we in Chicago won't see major crime dissappear ever. The city is just too large but imagine how the downstate towns feel about decriminalizing weed and them having less bodies sent there to stay in their state sponsored residences...same thing with welfare. You better know there are people getting paid and jobs getting created off it it. Don't believe me, look into the recent rise in big grocery chains taking food stamps. If you think they're against food stamps, you are crazy. Even fast food joints want to access food stamp dollars now. Ask farmers if they are against food stamps and WIC. They probably vote republican but they enjoy the fruit of democrats work, believe it.
I am genuinely curious. How do Chicago Police, public employees who are represented by a Union, feel about walker?
Forget all this partisan banter.
You can't argue with you lifelong Democrats who would still vote for John Wayne Gacy as long as he was a Democrat.
Give Walker his credit. He came in. He promised reform, he promised eliminating their deficit, he created real jobs and he delivered.
How many Illinois politicians - ON BOTH SIDES - have done as good a job, especially with ALL the time they have had in office?
Quinn?
Madigan (either one)?
Cullerton?
Topinka?
And you guys still go out and re-elect these people? Stop your whinin'. OR - vote 'em all out.
Part of Wisconsin's "union" problem was that some of the unions never had their employees put any money into their pension plan. It was entirely financed by the State. Walker wanted union workers to contribute toward their own pension.
We, on the other hand, contribute toward our pension but the city refuses to put their agreed amount of monies into the fund.
If you ran your household like the city/state runs the government, you'd be out on your ass. When the government gets their money, they run out and fund a new "pet project" rather than pay their bills. That would be like you taking OT check or second job money and rather than pay bills, buy a new flat-screen TV. Sorry, ComEd, I really wanted that TV....
we don't need Republicans in Illinois to kill our unions, the Democrats (Rahm) will do it no problem.
For the umpteenth time, "the elephant in the room".
LEGALIZED BRIBERY FOR SUCKHOLES
Your a total idiot if you think we don't need unions. Our grandfathers busted their chops to establish unions so that we could have a decent life. No unions is total big goverment control. My brother you are about to feel them squeeze the cheese. The #'s in the WI vote is a huge statement on how the rest of the world views the public employee. Somewhere along the way"taxpayers" were told that we are living rich. I don't know any city employees who can pay the morgage & feed the kids on our salaries. If we live comfortably it is because we have 2nd & 3rd jobs. If your lucky enough to have a spouse with a job then maybe you can squeeze in a private education.
But let the powers that be keep on going. Keep fucking with the teachers, the police, the fire, the S&S, all, who are a HUGE part of that "taxpayer" base that keeps getting shoved down our throats. We are as close as you can get to the bottom. I guarantee we are the next in line for food pantry.
Now go pay your property tax.
Police job is worth 100K if you are a worker.
It's worth $58,500 if you are a dog (ie:LINK/Section 8 benefit/ and SSI for drug addiction/alcoholism)
So if the average pay for a PO is $65,000.. where is the justice?
America
We desperately need a governor walker here to break our union, end collective bargaining rights, and reestablish the marketplace as the final arbitror. Unions are for suckers, and I personally trust our elected officials to ensure our income levels maintain parity with the private sector. Ideas about getting rich off the the state have proven antiquated. We need freedom, not more communistic union rabble working to inflate our wages.
6/06/2012 01:23:00 AM
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So, Occupy is still posting here. Wonderful.
Hey, I'm Just Sayin, said...
Everyone thinks and the Democrats always blame the Republicans for being union busters, while the Dems are all FOR the working class. Fact is, NOBODY is helping the working class anymore. The Republicans are all in for the corporations and the Democrats are actually Socialists who only care about the non-working welfare class to keep voting them into office to continue the government entitlements and free government cheese paid for by the working class while the millionaires and politicians laugh at all of us.
The American dream... where did it all go so wrong?
6/06/2012 01:32:00 AM
By people (men) being distracted by sports and media. Staying silent when they should have been speaking out. Sitting back when they should have been standing up. Begging for scraps from the masters table rather than taking a seat at it. We have sold not only our souls but maybe even our childrens and grandchildrens future by being weak and SILENT. Now shut up and do your job and pay for those who screw you.
The Republicans are all in for the corporations and the Democrats are actually Socialists who only care about the non-working welfare class to keep voting them into office to continue the government entitlements and free government cheese paid for by the working class while the millionaires and politicians laugh at all of us.
Sadly , couldn't have said it better...
right to work , drop out of fop and save some money
Yep someone like WALKER would be nice in this state.. but MADAGAN wouldn't allow it.. Wonder if when Obama loses in NOVEMBER if he will come back here and run for governor..than we would have RAHM running CHICAGO and OBAMA beating down the rest of the state..
Obama and the dems were watching this one closely. They seriously believe that this was a litmus test for how things will go in November and were looking for a dem victory here. I know the lefty liberals were talking A LOT about having a recount. Problem is, somebody has to PAY for all this bullshit.
This morning on a Milwaukee TV news/talk segment, they asked who would be paying the estimated $18 to $20 million in recall election costs and they said it was NOT all being paid for by the State. Most of it will be paid for out of the budgets of the townships and villages throughout the state and it was suggested that we may not recognize how this will be affecting everyone until there is no money left when it comes time to pay for road salt or snow plowing. Typical Democrats though, spending someone else's money to try to force everyone into accepting what the Dems want, but NO ONE ELSE
6/06/2012 01:21:00 AM
You sound like a fool. What the governor did was harsh to organized labor. The recall did not happen just because the unions wanted it but because the cities and townships voted for it too. It's not about democrat and republican, it's about the dismantling of workers rights that have been fought for over decades. When the bell tolls here, you can be glad of the screwing you too shall receive and guess what? It will be democrats and republicans screwing you because we are on the road to taking scraps just because a company or govt. entity gives us a job. Hope you like it.
Fellow Officers,
Let's not forget what this date in history is about, the greatest invasion in the history of the world, Normandy. Take a moment and pray of prayer of thanks and remember the ones who gave their all. Their souls appreciate it.
6/06/2012 08:30:00 AM
Great comment, but...
The US invasion of Okinawa had more ships/ US troops involved than any invasion ever.
We hear the term D-Day and don't realize EVERY landing in WW2 was called D-Day.
The number of US casualties at Omaha and Utah was about the same as Iwo.
We were taught wrong, the greatest battle (as far as US personnel) was Okinawa.
God bless those young toughs. We owe them a debt I hope I don't have to repay.
Why do some people on this blog put Police Officers and Fire Fighters in the same boat as teachers, streets and sands laborers? Are they sworn? One job indoctrinates our children with Progressive values. The other repaves our streets with shoddy mob owned material on a continual yearly basis.
Are they expected to run towards the sounds of gunfire or enter burning buildings? We defend the Rights of Citizens guaranteed by our Constitution from domestic enemies and criminals. The Military does the same but to our foreign enemies. They also get pensions if they stay in at least 20 years. When are the slime ball politicians from either party going to start going after their?
Both parties are A joke. Can't tell the difference between Rahm and walker. Both despise public workers. So what's the difference in ideology?
".America was devasted by the depression and it took the war to bring it back with manufacturing."
You might want to crack open a history book. America came out of the depression due to Roosevelts new deal which put thousands back to work through government public works projects. The manufacturing was to support the war effort. The GIs came home went to college& bought houses all w/ the assistance of the Government
Unions actually are quite important for the working man, and I hope those of you slamming the FOP are being sarcastic, because without it you would be truly boned.
The problem with unions in the USA today is that union leadership completely forgot the instructions from Samuel Gompers and Adolph Strasser to avoid marriage to any political party and to use both sides to their advantage. Once labor whored themselves to the Democrats it was open season as far as the Republicans were concerned, and the Dems were looking for that prostitute relationship instead of actual partnership.
Anonymous said...
We desperately need a governor walker here to break our union, end collective bargaining rights, and reestablish the marketplace as the final arbitror. Unions are for suckers, and I personally trust our elected officials to ensure our income levels maintain parity with the private sector. Ideas about getting rich off the the state have proven antiquated. We need freedom, not more communistic union rabble working to inflate our wages.
6/06/2012 01:23:00 AM
I agree with you until you said unions are for suckers. A lot of unions are b.s. and a lot of union officials are scum bags. But, before CPD recently got collective bargaining rights we were making around $40,000. We didn't get step raises, they were up to the captain, and they just wiped your time right off the books whenever they wanted. There wasn't a thing you could do about it. We definitely need reform and someone like Walker. But, I would like him to show restraint like Walker did with police and fire's collective bargaining.
Nick said...
I am genuinely curious. How do Chicago Police, public employees who are represented by a Union, feel about walker?
6/06/2012 01:16:00 PM
I'm a CPD sergeant and and I stand with Walker!!!! In fact, Wisconsin just moved up to my first choice for retirement! Hopefully the conservative Republicans will begin capital punishment in that state to combat the inner city westside crime Daley and the democrats have exported to Gods Country! See ya in Wilmot Steve!
Why do some people on this blog put Police Officers and Fire Fighters in the same boat as teachers, streets and sands laborers? Are they sworn? One job indoctrinates our children with Progressive values. The other repaves our streets with shoddy mob owned material on a continual yearly basis.
Are they expected to run towards the sounds of gunfire or enter burning buildings? We defend the Rights of Citizens guaranteed by our Constitution from domestic enemies and criminals. The Military does the same but to our foreign enemies. They also get pensions if they stay in at least 20 years. When are the slime ball politicians from either party going to start going after their?
6/06/2012 11:28:00 PM
Keep the military out of this. We can't even spell grievance, ask a copper that's prior service. One thing I learned quick is that being the police is not nearly as much like being in the service as people like to think. Why are they all in the same boat? Because they are all tax payer funded positions with bargaining rights. They all also have this in common: the dog makes just as much as the hotshot and they can't easily get rid of the dog. Are you so naive to forget that policing policy is controlled and manipulated by the same people that create the Progressive values used to indoctrinate children or approve contracts with the other shoddy mob owned material on a continual yearly basis. We got the same bosses genious! By the way, in the military..unless the dog has got some good juice, you will not get paid because you will not be promoted and one bad annual eval can ruin your career progression. Yeah there is longevity but not like being a copper. Even military dogs rely on promotion for pay increases, not just being employed like the dogs in public sector unions. Some of you guys need more experience prior to being a copper because I tell you what I told my old man...public sector unions would be a force to reckon with IF they found a way to kick the dogs out. That's the one issue of credibility the public sector unions are losing to the general public...protection for the dogs. What do you think a troop drawndown is. They are forcing out low performers across DoD branches right now, while we have people protesting our budget cuts. Military personnel expect this and live with it, if public sectors unions did too...there would be a shift.
Anonymous said...
".America was devasted by the depression and it took the war to bring it back with manufacturing."
You might want to crack open a history book. America came out of the depression due to Roosevelts new deal which put thousands back to work through government public works projects. The manufacturing was to support the war effort. The GIs came home went to college& bought houses all w/ the assistance of the Government
6/07/2012 02:57:00 AM
Uh oh! You'll piss people off when you remind them that social security, medicare, GI Bill, VA home loans, farmer subsidies, land grant institutions (ie big public universities) are all funded by the government! Jeepers creepers! Before anyone even thinks I'm some anarchist...I used every cent of my GI Bill. And in college I learned that everybody wants money from the G in America and politics is all the different groups fighting over how much they want to get. That includes the super rich people. Handouts are only bad when they're to the other group that you aint in. People need to learn what a subsidy is. It's when govt gives a handout directly to one group but below the surface another group is benefitting from it.
Anonymous said...
Why do some people on this blog put Police Officers and Fire Fighters in the same boat as teachers, streets and sands laborers? Are they sworn? One job indoctrinates our children with Progressive values. The other repaves our streets with shoddy mob owned material on a continual yearly basis.
Are they expected to run towards the sounds of gunfire or enter burning buildings? We defend the Rights of Citizens guaranteed by our Constitution from domestic enemies and criminals. The Military does the same but to our foreign enemies. They also get pensions if they stay in at least 20 years. When are the slime ball politicians from either party going to start going after their?
6/06/2012 11:28:00 PM
Actually the military is sworn to support and defend the Constitution of United States against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC.
I'm a CPD sergeant and and I stand with Walker!!!! In fact, Wisconsin just moved up to my first choice for retirement! Hopefully the conservative Republicans will begin capital punishment in that state to combat the inner city westside crime Daley and the democrats have exported to Gods Country! See ya in Wilmot Steve!
6/07/2012 10:38:00 AM
You might want to think twice before moving to the neighbor on our northern border. Wisconsin, like Iowa, Indiana and many other states, levies a tax on pension income. Wisconsin has many nice places to reside, but it is going to cost 3% of your pension to have an address in the state of Wisconsin. That's expensive, especially if there is no COLA. And, while there are ways to avoid taking the 3% hit while living in Wisconsin, each has a downside.
Anyone that believes the cops, firefighters and teachers pensions' aren't on the hit list next is deluding themselves. Just because Walker didn't come after them now does not mean it wont happen (and you know it will). Same with Illinois, as for Chicago, you better figure out where you stand now because if you don't support the rest of them you can bet they wont support you when it comes down. Just sayin'.
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