How's That Strategy Thing Working?
The later the day goes, the bigger the Sun Times numbers seem to get:
Shakaki Asphy’s family says the 16-year-old girl was at the wrong place at the wrong time when she was murdered over the weekend in West Englewood on the South Side.
Judging by the level of crime in the area, it would be difficult to figure out the right place to be.
[...] Asphy was among the six people killed and Cunningham was among at least 31 people wounded in Chicago from Friday night though Sunday.
Six and thirty-one? Sounds like it's time for a new strategy.
Labels: crime
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
120 Comments:
That new stategy thing is going about as well as that "hope and change" thing.
add two more from 007 they are working on that happened about 9pm and 1115 pm.
This kid's father says she was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Really? Let's ask her father why he would allow a 16 year old girl to sit out on the front porch at 4:00 AM in the morning, with a 21 year old man, and other assorted types?
Ignorant and irresponsible...and I'm talking about the father. No surprise here.
its not working.... plain and simple. I can honestly say... I am completly worn out after a night at work and half dead after my work week. Ive always been tired in the past but nothing like this. It is constant working, running around etc. at this rate your going to have a bunch of worn out, grouchy irritable coppers come the end of summer. That wont be good for the coppers, morale, the citizens or the department. Ive seen many coppers who are on the verge of snapping... One day it will be hot out and that copper will snap against some mouthy gang banger and its gonna turn out bad. The constant stress and overworked enviorment will get to a copper and he will get indicted, hurt or possibly worse. The department will end up crucifying this copper without knowing that THEY pushed this guy to the complete breaking point. I can tell it already on the mens faces at work. They are on the verge and are burnt out. Not just older coppers but young coppers alike.. its not a good situation at all.
But wait, hold on. I thought according to the new strategy, a weekend now consists of Thursday night thru Tuesday morning? If that's the case, we're not even done.
But really, what's a weekend to a sh*thead when they don't work to begin with?
Had she been sitting on her own front porch it might not of happened.
I never understood why you can always see people in the ghetto sitting on the front porch of a boarded up house. You do not belong there, it is trespassing.
One more piece of shit gone...DOA at Lawrence and Sheridan.
Well maybe if Father Mike and olde Rev Jesse had held their anti crime rally in Englewood or Hyde Park instead of the suburbs someone might have gotten the message. So Rahmbo, are the streets safe in Paris?
You can add #7 in uptown 4800 N Sheridan 2 to the chest
Looks like 7 and over 50.
Six and thirty-one? Sounds like it's time for a new strategy.
Sounds like the band Chicago were singing about Chicago violence. (originally called Chicago Transit Authority, until the City sued and won)
"Staring blindly into space
Getting up to splash my face
Wanting just to stay awake
Wondering how much I can take
Should I try to do some more"
"25 or 6 to 4"
As sung by Chalkie. (All rights reserved. Chalkie is a registered trademark of dead people everywhere.)
Chalkie: Does anybody really know what time it is?
Strategery.
That's what this situation calls for.
Strategery.
Mussolini will be back in the Fortress of Bullshit soon. I can't wait to hear the Corporate-political bullshit propaganda this time.
Isn't it odd that all the shooting victims and those that shot them are democRATS?
What's up with that?
"How's that strategy thing working?"
You mean the one Quinn is about to dish out? I'm calling it "The Ready Or Not Here They Come" strategy.
The next wave of look over here I gave the Chicago police a tool to get tough on gangs using this new RICO ordinance....but don't look over there as I open the prison gates and let hundreds of felons out because we neither have the tax revenue of the resources to hold them.
Okay everyone! Listen up! Close your eyes now and count to one-hundred here we go.. let's see how long it takes the coppers to find and catch them again.
Ready? One...two..three...
ahhh, yes and brother who got shot before and was in wheelchair got shot again along with the sister who got killed. I smell a gangbanger getting disability and still gangbanging. His sister got killed because of his dumb ass or she was banging also.
SCC's FAVorite news source has an interesting OP ED piece by a retired NYPD Captain turned Professor.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/18/opinion/the-nypds-obsession-with-numbers.html?_r=1&gwh=714207717F6CFB2FE883025655A60BD4
The gist of it is that Comstat is poo poo.
Can I say poo poo on this blog?
I don't want to offend anyone and throw off my numbers.
Why do we have a Lt as a W/C? Dump the Lt W/C save millions.
McLiar looks like an idiot on tv with his bullshit....comparing this to that, not that to this, crime is down, etc.
What McStupid fails to mention is that 'Other' crime is DOWN ACROSS THE COUNTRY, according to FBI stats.
Media is too lazy to look this up.
McDummy's 'strategies' aren't working--the country is experiencing a downward trend--but murders HERE are up 35-50%, depending on how you do the math.
No credit where credit isn't due.
Can we start a McStat countdown timer?
And all that is going to replace McCarthy is another political hack with a new drive to please, or at least suckhole the politicians. There are very few who could/would lead this Department back to a real policing paradigm. As soon as the politicians realize this guy has nothing real that will help their political ambitions or at least keep them in their greedy political spots they'll kick him to the curb and frantically look to replace him with another yes man. Worse though, there are bigger jags out there who will be even bigger hack yes-men all at our expense. Only and I say again ONLY when the politicians reach the point of fear for their political life, when they truly believe their greed and power driven political offices are in jeopardy will they see the need to restore stability and drive to the police department. That will be the time when we will get some funding, some hiring, some promotions and some latitude and told to take back the streets. The only problem is that it might already be too late. This goes well beyond the local politicians, it’s a National mindset and both city and suburban departments across the country are suffering the same plight. Here though, it's worse because hands down we have a significantly larger number of greedy and corrupt politicians. So, start looking for the next suckhole as the candidates and those who think they should be began their lip and finger exercises. Remember boys and girls; curl the finger toward the prostate for a better massaging orgasm and you’ll get the job for sure.
According to the latest rant from the Rerunds, Jesse and Flager it is the fault of the fun industry. They intentionally flood the ghetto with guns (most stolen) knowing that black folk will go right out and kill each other. Yup, it is the fault of guns.
Now in other, more civilized neighborhoods we are forced to pay full price for legal guns. TZhat must be why it is only in the ghetto that they kill each other in alarming numbers. Or maybe the Guv'ment isn't giving enough money to those ghetto people. If they was only given enough money maybe they wouldn't be shooting kids on their porch steps.
Maybe.
At least they have their free cell phone to call 911 after the shootings. And they think the Guv'ment doesn't care. The Guv'ment does care, Guv'ment phones, Guv'ment cheese, Guv'ment pay 'da rent, Guv'ment takes care of everything.
How come they aren't killing each other in droves in Edison Park, Lincoln Park or the decent south side residential areas? Only in the ghetto.
Man stabbed to death in Bridgeport neighborhood, 2 others stabbed in Rogers Park
The new strategy will be for Chicago to impose a tax on all new knife purchases and current knife owners will have to purchase "permits to own".
And speaking of violence, kind of, Mr. Rodney King of L.A. is dead - was found at the bottom of his in-ground swimming pool.
Now theres a typical urban sh*thead.
Wouldn't have taken a beating if he had remained on the ground like his car passenger did.
For you kids out there, Rodney King was PoS who was high on drugs and involved in a high-speed pursuit in LA.
After stopping, refused to remain on the ground anf attempted to stand up - took a beating. Cops indicted, tried and exonerated. Riot killed 50. Rodney got million$.
Maybe if the dumb ghetto bitch wasn't sitting on the porch at that time of the morning she would be alive. Of and I saw the father on tv, he looked all of 28 yrs old. WTF!!!
Yo dude! None of that really happened. You only PERCEIVED that 6 people got killed and 35 were shot. Crime is actually down.
Maybe if the ghetto rat wasn't on the porch of an abandon building......
Is Chalkie getting paid overtime?
Can someone please bring up the teddy bear and mylar balloon shortage that this strategy is causing at the next COMPSTAT!!
Bloodshed city, Detroit west!
37 x at least $100,000 in trauma services = $3.7 million dollars in tax-payer funded Medicaid down the drain!
AMEN.....AMEN to 12:14:00AM. yeah, I know it was hot.
Maybe Jesse and Fr. Mike should change their strategy too and do something besides protest.
Anonymous said...
That new stategy thing is going about as well as that "hope and change" thing.
6/18/2012 12:08:00 AM
Rahmbolina said he has a strategy to work through the strategy.....no lie!
When the culture has devolved to the point that life means nothing and murderous rampages over the last pork chop or some perceived sleight are commonplace, there is nothing the police can do to stop the cascade of slaughter. You can't put a policeman on every corner. Even if you did, the irrationality, entitlement mindset and total lack of self control of the average south and west side denizen, will not prevent them from pulling the trigger.
Chicago and the State of Illinois have been lost to the savages as a result of electing generations of democrat politicians who pander to the savages for votes to keep the pols in office. Would the last one out of Illinois please turn out the lights?
Yep. I can see a difference already with Leo in control in 007 vs. Carothers...
(crickets chirping)
So Quinn gives us a new "ordinance?" What is needed is more ordnance, as in firepower.
Why do we have a Lt as a W/C? Dump the Lt W/C save millions.
You guys over at CPD better hope that your chief isn't influenced by ours over here at the UCPD. Lynch not only has sgts. running our watches, he's fired all of our LTS. Lynch also wants us to patrol all the way west to King Dr., but we don't even have the manpower available to cover the U of C campus. Many days we have more of our exempts in the offices than we have beat cars on the streets...and still the upper mgmt. hiring continues. We've got a wonderful fleet of pretty new cars and SUVs for the supervisors, but a little more than half of it sits unused in our garage on any given day. Many days we've just sat in our cars and laughed about how poorly managed our dept. is, in spite of madman Doty being gone for the past three months. It's like the ghost of goofiness just won't leave the building.
Maybe things will be better when Owens and Lynch get our dept. Calea certified.
Less Police, fuck the teachers, tax the shit out of the people etc...etc..its all for the children, and hes right its starting to show! more children are getting killed, way to go Weasel!
Here's a thought. Maybe if we legalize fireworks we can see an increase in tax revenue, hire more cops and give these young morons something to shoot off that doesn't kill people.
The Gangs on the street will never die....They'll only multiply...
Colors....Colors....
The next new strategy is to combine all previous strategies and reveal the new combination as Strategy Nexus Maximum, AKA S.N.M.
The success of S.N.M. will be directly connected to the amount of fulfillment achieved by department members, and the public at large, that participate in the implementation of the combined strategies.
Together, as a team, using our combined, concentrated strength and using the tools at hand, we can whip this uptick in shootings and murder and really turn the screws on crime.
High fives, fanny slaps and butterfly kisses to you all,
Garry McCarthy
Superintendo
6/18/2012 12:19:00 AM I agree with you 100%. You got guys in 007 that are so burnt out that it's sad. I'm talking about guys with 10+ years on, all in that hell of a district and no where to go and no chance of leaving. The department does not realize how dangerous this situation is and I'm sure they don't care either.
at the end of the day the one who is responsible is, the mayor. what happened to the promise more pos on the street. for special occassions only,like nato or weddings? the media seems to look at things in a political way. rahm has a teflon coating, so the public suffers. how can the public accept this and not demand a change?
Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome!! Ever hear of it? You think you're not affected, think again. There are a number of police departments that recognize that it does exist among their troops!!!!
Sorry, OT but a vent from a citizen who supports the fine men and women in blue of our city.
I can understand that PO's have discretion on issuing (or not) tickets -- parking, maybe speeding I can understand -- but when there is an accident with injuries and lots of damage to 2 vehicles -- why the hell not issue a ticket?
I unfortunately was the passenger of a taxi that hit a parked car and flipped. Thankfully no life threatening injuries, but I'm afraid there may be quality of life issues down the road (injured back/neck). In the ER, I asked the RO/paper car if he gave the cabbie a ticket, his response was what good would it do me? It would only give the city some $$$, that was it. He suggested I contact his insurance co. ASAP. At the time, I was thinking about other times this guy might have done the same thing, but had gotten a pass. In addition, I am now pissed that I find out the PO decided not to make the city $$$$ by issuing the ticket, but yet I cannot get a copy of the full police report without having to pay a relatively small amount. PO's are so concnered with the little $ that would be generated by giving me the full report for my records than giving the cabbie a ticket who caused the accident and caused the city $$$$$$$ in emergency response costs.
Sorry for the vent, but a very supportive citizen is just sore and pissy b/c of the situation -- victim gets screwed and the offender gets away -- once again.
Chalkie never got the new crime strategy memo!
I appears that they are shooting people with ridiculous names.
025- four shot -two Homicides
Anonymous said...
its not working.... plain and simple. I can honestly say... I am completly worn out after a night at work and half dead after my work week. Ive always been tired in the past but nothing like this. It is constant working, running around etc. at this rate your going to have a bunch of worn out, grouchy irritable coppers come the end of summer. That wont be good for the coppers, morale, the citizens or the department. Ive seen many coppers who are on the verge of snapping... One day it will be hot out and that copper will snap against some mouthy gang banger and its gonna turn out bad. The constant stress and overworked enviorment will get to a copper and he will get indicted, hurt or possibly worse. The department will end up crucifying this copper without knowing that THEY pushed this guy to the complete breaking point. I can tell it already on the mens faces at work. They are on the verge and are burnt out. Not just older coppers but young coppers alike.. its not a good situation at all.
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Officer, You are so-so correct. You said it all in a short message.
I just retired this year after 34 years.
The rats are out of control and it shows by your post how bad.
My prayers are with all you fine people in patrol. I am lost for words for the conditions you guys endure everyday.
God bless the patrol officer, for they are on the front line without s moment of peace during their tour.
Sgt.'s should be wc's
lt's should be assigned to areas
and assigned by deputy chief what districts they will patrol
xo's useless political rank
Sgt is the backbone of cpd
They always blame the police. Today on the news a father, also a rev. blames the police, even though his daughter just got out of prison serving federal time , to return home and "hangout.
And rev. how about blaming the actual shooter and his attentive family who raised him. It's easier blaming the police. Again shows no support for police, good message.
Well maybe if the innocent family members were taught school work, went to college, and were working they wouldn't be hanging out. there's enough blame to go around and most falls on the parents not the police.
They don't take any blame for raising their kids! Where is the blame you hold for your kid going to jail. Must be the police fault.
Great interview again wgn
Who's to blame... Family, family and family.
ok the official weekend tallys. 8 dead(7 shot, one stabbed) and 37 shot. Also, in 007 saturday morning a man was "found dead" in a vacant lot which is still a "death investigation." psssssst, heres a secret... he was strangled so that actually makes 9 dead... but of course, it still hasnt been made a homicide... yet. so, I guess we will make it 9 killed and 37 wounded for a grand total of 46 for the weekend. hmmmmmmm, I wonder what would have happened if it didnt rain saturday night from 11pm to 2am????? Im guessing it would have been another 50+ weekend. So much for the strategy working....... hey, maybe next weekend.
lots of poor,well armed people in west virginia...they shoot deer not each other. maybe it has something to do with a culture that loves violence? or a culture with no personal responsibility? or no parenting or no morals?
The only solution is stop the BULLSHIT! Take all the caps money,all the gang banger "violence interrupter" funds and funnel 110% back to CPD! Then hire 3,000 More new coppers minimum! Rahm you on your end make sure we get a fair contract,and FUND THE PENSION OBLIGATION 110% That would be "change we could believe in"!
It has to be getting worse for racoon-eyes and McStupid...even the national media is taking notice of Chicago's out of control violence. This is the second time in a couple weeks I've seen article on msnbc.com about the shootings in Chicago...
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/18/12279772-more-chicago-mayhem-35-hurt-7-killed-in-shootings?lite
Anonymous said...
Why do we have a Lt as a W/C? Dump the Lt W/C save millions.
6/18/2012 03:58:00 AM
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What is a W/C (Watch Commander?)
The department got rid of those on 4 January 2012.
Well maybe if Father Mike and olde Rev Jesse had held their anti crime rally in Englewood or Hyde Park instead of the suburbs someone might have gotten the message. So Rahmbo, are the streets safe in Paris?
6/18/2012 01:09:00 AM
Prague, not Paris. He and the entire extended family went to Prague for his daughter's bat mitzvah.
So many other cities, so little time for Chicago...
Yes and one of the deaths involved a women with no criminal history on75th and State. The family said she was getting her life together after her stint in Federal prison. Oh no local criminal history.
There is no strategy to stop these fools from killing each other. We could have 23,000 police and this would still happen. Years ago when we had 13,000 police there were more murders than there are now, and that a fact
Anyone know anything about the murder in Armour Square (Bridgeport)?
To the Tribune Reporters: Gorner, Hinkel and Nickeas...........How about finishing the story you started this morning - what does/did the trauma care cost the tax-payers for the victims in your story?
I wish there was a like button for some comments
Lots of good strategies working these days -- Channel 9 News just showed another young woman "just starting to get her life back together" -- I could not make it up -- visited Grandma in the nursing home constantly, etc.
Got shot multiple times by "random gunfire."
Oh -- they didn't go into specifics about the "term in federal prison" she just completed...
What can you say...
Yea, it is our fault. We have a perception problem. It is not that people are getting killed, it is that we are looking at things the wrong way.
It's Monday, where's this week's strategy?
The solution to crime is to punish criminals.
Why in the world in the year 2012 is McCarthy arguing that the solution to crime is to predict when and where it will happen and respond before it occurs?
Is there anyone other than Rahm who believes this madness?
Hey Mike S, hope you get this message. Or someone calls you. It is time for you get out from behind the desk and talk to the your brothers and sisters (COPS) Things are happening at a very fast pace and the person talking is Rahminator. Mike you going to be "one and done" if you don't start talking and mking yourself seen. Stop using the bullshit that IM BUSY, were you busy when you ran for office. Maybe make another youtube video.... It is time MIKE ot stepdown and let someone with balls run FOP (union). Thats right we are not a union only a fraternal organization.
620/610
You see, it's just a perception problem. This week there were thirty shot and seven killed, while last week there were fifty shot and twelve killed.
That's a fifty-eight percent drop in murders and a forty percent drop in shootings IN JUST ONE WEEK.
Our new strategies are working already! Can't you see the numbers? It's just perception.
Supernintendo McWhiskey
Like anyone really cares? Culling of the herd as the saying goes. Wall 'em off and let nature take it's course. Why should we even bother when the shitheads don't? They can't keep track of their offspawn why would ayone else care? Hey, Jessie and Pfleger, you do it, and let the cops do their own jobs, not like you are doing anything worthwhile anyway. Oh, wait, have another march or prayer meeting. That will help, douchebags.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/06/16/chicago-homicide-rate-wor_n_1602692.html?icid=hp_front_art
Chicago is making National news for all the wrong reasons.
SNITCHES GET STITCHES STRATEGY IS WORKING!
Seriously Chicago!
If the people that get shot will not cooperate with the police fearing being labeled as a snitch and face the consequences of that do you really think that they are going to be calling in other violent crimes like rape, robbery, etc.. If the violent crime numbers are down it's not because we have less violent crime. It's because the city has been lost to the illegal immigrant drug cartels and poverty hopelessness conditions here in the Third-World Class Sanctuary City.
Chicago aldermen are failures. Chicago mayor is a failure. Illinois legislature and Governor are failures. The President and all the corporate whores in congress are failures.
When's the next corporate fund raiser is all they care about!!
This government doesn't represent the people. This government represents the corporate campaign donators. It's a third-world government that is bought and as far as they are concerned, the corporations think the murder rate and shootings are a-okay.
So make the top cop and the mayor stick to their crime is down script. Deviating from that script may cause corporate tax increases and we can't have that.
There is only one answer to cease all this crime-Properly trained, law abiding citizens need to be able to carry a gun! We are the only state in the US that doesn't allow this! It is an awesome deterrent!
You're gonna need a program much more extensive than just more cops on the streets to make a dent in this.
Seventeen year old's with two kids shooting other seventeen year old's!!!
Just how f==ked-up do you think those kids are going to turn out in just about twelve years from now!
These numbers will grow exponentially. There's no place in society for these people. No jobs, no hope, no future. They don't expect to live past 25 y/o. They don't see education as making a difference and in many cases it doesn't.
The crisis just isn't big enough yet for the mayor to use.
Strategy is working great, im killing the city in OT. Just for the fun of it someone should add up all of the arrests and the number of prison years that our homicide "victims" have tallied. Ill take the over on 3,000. Al guesses are welcome.
Did I mention screw You McCrappy and your lying cockstat bulshit.
Do you really think it would be anything different?? Let's all remember that mcstupid is a "APPOINTEE", nothing more, nothing less, he is RAHMS choice to be the new lapdog, puppet, whatever you want to call him. He doesn't know Chicago, he doesn't have big city experience, or any positive achievements, so what do you expect??? DALEY did it for years, appointing the Superintendant, there is no check and balances in CHICAGO!! Mcstupid can never go after rahm, and that's the way the mayor likes it.....
SCC asked, "How's that strategy thing working?"
You're gonna have to be more specific, SCC. Which one of the four 'new' strategies this year, each supeseding the other, do you mean?
superseding
I love you self cleaning oven
McCarthy will be around until he tells the truth , don't ya get it , he says what the hall tells him to say .
Can't you bring the "Chalkie" shirts back????
OT: A little help is coming, academy class starts July 2nd and possible August and September class
The strategy will begin to work around October when it cools down and the little animals go back to school.
Mc.08 seriously is beginning to look like a deer in the headlights. I ALMOST feel sorry for him.
Please tell the brass to stop bobbing their heads up and down everytime the Supe has a press conference and says something. What a bunch of lap dogs.
These guys think they can fight crime with their brains only,wrong you need a team effort and a good solid team,the bigger the army the better the fight,I don't care how many brains you put together a strategy won't win the war abalone,the troop numbers need to be raised!
Hey, everyone in Englewood, move to Obama's block and you will receive lifetime protection!!!!!
Garry M.
Maybe if the dumb ghetto bitch wasn't sitting on the porch at that time of the morning she would be alive. Of and I saw the father on tv, he looked all of 28 yrs old. WTF!!!
6/18/2012 07:08:00 AM
You are just vile evil and I pray not a cop.
6/18/2012 10:48:00 AM
It's called laziness my friend. You would be surprised how lazy some cops are. The shit they do would get them fired on the spot in the private job marketplace. I will give some examples: a cop sees a couple fighting and he just drives on by as if nothing happened, coding jobs out by not even going on scene, going to domestics and not arresting an offender, etc... But don't get me wrong there are good cops and bad cops.
I can understand that PO's have discretion on issuing (or not) tickets -- parking, maybe speeding I can understand -- but when there is an accident with injuries and lots of damage to 2 vehicles -- why the hell not issue a ticket?
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The usual reasom is because the police didn't observe the alleged violation.
When two parties have differing stories on what happened, more often than not the police will not issue a ticket because they weren't there to observe what happened.
The resolution to your problem lies with the insurance agencies involved, not the police and a ticket doesn't mean squat to an insurance agency if the police were not the witness.
I understand your need to feel like someone was "punished" but without independent witnesses the police aren't required to issue a ticket and put a he said/she said in front of a judge to have to deal with because they come to the same conclusion without independent witnesses.
So the short answer is, it's a waste of time and money that has nothing to do with a resolution to the accident and damages, and that's regardless of what your insurance guy told you. He only told you a ticket matters because none were issued so he can try and get out of a settlement.
OK.. I just seen the news and seen the two assholes Jackson and Sharpton in New York telling the police that they are offended that police should stop "no stop no frisk," let me tell you that I have talked to a WHOLE lot of black people(which I will not refer to them as black for the remander of this commet.The PEOPLE are so fed up with these assholes including FLAGER that they want the police to be AGGRESSIVE. The PEOPLE also want the public to know that they live in these fast areas or SHIT areas because of they dont have the means to leave.They also tell me that those ASSHOLES dont speak for them. They also say that these ASSHOLES are ruining Chicago and turning it to SHIT.They also want to thank the POLITICIANS for making 15 grams of weed a ANOV. I guess the POLITICIANS dont understand the officer STILL has to go into the district and do a CASE REPORT and AN INVENTORY.They probably didnt think of that maybe they just want smoking weed LEGAL?They also want to thank the MEDIA for not reporting what actually happens in these areas......ENJOY WHAT YOU ASSHOLES CREATED
When McSnooky leaves town, can we go back to our regular Chicago lingo and retire 'shootings/murders/strategies/tools/perception/strategies/initiatives/injured/strategies'?
I long for the days when I could understand events when they were described properly, as in, 'a lot of motherfuckers shot last night, huh?'
I love the newest--if you pay careful attention--this cropped up in a couple of newscasts and articles--'people injured.'
People injured? Subtle shift?
People aren't 'shot' anymore, they're 'injured'?
WTF?
I might have to frame this quote of Rahmskank:
“We are using the strategy for weekends . . . with an emphasis on communities that have been affected by gang violence, to work through a strategy using all the tools that are now available that had not been available or not been deployed.”
A 41-word sentence that is dripping bullshit. I tried to dissect this sentence and could not come up with a viable meaning.
Seriously? Is there a linguist coach on staff? Although this should not surprise--remember 'putting 2,000 more cops on the street'?
To 10:59... funniest fucking comment I have ever seen on here... good work!
Sorry for the vent, but a very supportive citizen is just sore and pissy b/c of the situation -- victim gets screwed and the offender gets away -- once again.
6/18/2012 10:48:00 AM
I understand your concern. But the officer did not witness the infraction--therefore any ticket would probably be thrown out of court. Unless you are an accident reconstructionist, (sp?) it's not for us to assume how an accident happened.
A ticket is nothing--any investigation will be done by the insurance companies--and trust me, they have experts who can determine what happened.
The copper should not have said what he did about generating income--trust me, it's more that we don't write tickets after the fact.
Hope you don't have lingering injuries. But let this angst about the ticket go--you have more important things to worry about.
The less of an issue you make of it, the better. If litigation ensues, the other side will quote you as saying, 'the officer didn't issue a ticket, the officer didn't issue a ticket'! Get it?
Good luck. Don't know if you know it, but about 80+ percent of cabs in Chicago are salvage vehicles and completely unsafe. A high number of them are totalled police cars--go figure!
That should be a media story right there! Follow the trail of the money.
PO's are so concnered with the little $ that would be generated by giving me the full report for my records than giving the cabbie a ticket who caused the accident and caused the city $$$$$$$ in emergency response costs.
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So not true about PO's being concerned about the 'little money....'. We could care less about that! We are forbidden by orders to provide you with a full copy--not because of money made, just that we can't give out reports. By order, not by choice.
Take it easy. Contact your insurance company as well as his. All the worry over the 'non' ticket and 'revenue' is just not worth it. I'm sure the incident was scary enough--don't add more stress to it. Hope you stay well.
Anonymous said...
The next new strategy is to combine all previous strategies and reveal the new combination as Strategy Nexus Maximum, AKA S.N.M.
The success of S.N.M. will be directly connected to the amount of fulfillment achieved by department members, and the public at large, that participate in the implementation of the combined strategies.
Together, as a team, using our combined, concentrated strength and using the tools at hand, we can whip this uptick in shootings and murder and really turn the screws on crime.
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You forgot about employing the tools that were available but not implemented, and the tools that weren't available but are now available, that will be utilized that weren't previously utilized, and will now be utilized to implement the strategy to help the strategy in using the tools. That we have. Or don't have. But might have. Or will have. Or did have that weren't used. Or the tools in our imagination that we plan to implement to strategize the strategies to use the tools we have....and the beat goes on.
High fives, fanny slaps and butterfly kisses to you all,
Garry McCarthy
Superintendo
6/18/2012 09:55:00 AM
I was not eating or drinking anything, and yet I emitted a huge snort!
Lots of good points here. I know I only have 8 years on, but I was hoping to be out of my shit-hole south side district. But it doesn't look like that is possible. No new test for anything and can't bid anywhere.
"Worse though, there are bigger jags out there who will be even bigger hack yes-men all at our expense." I beg to differ. Go to a Crapstat meeting sometime. In my 30+ years on this job, I have never seen anyone treat people the way this guy does. It's a complete disgrace. He truly believes Chicago and the police are second class compared to New York.
Hard to believe the bad luck of the future Rhodes scholar that got shot on the porch. First a federal prison sentence which I'm sure must have been a racist conspiracy and then getting shot on a porch at 4am while she was probably studying in the hamlet of Englewood. Then her asshole family blames the police- not the shooter or the dumb choices of the would be Rhodes scholar. Can't imagine where things went wrong when she was surrounded by those intellectual heavyweights.
If the F.O.P. makes this a National issue and can make it stick to Obama,you'll see money falling out of the sky.
and on a side note, the ghost of rodney king blurted out "can't we just go swimming?"
just axin
Mooshell Obama is on a kick to get fat kids out of the house, start exercising and lose weight.
But look at the bright side: Fat kids generally don't get shot. So being fat may for inner city black kids, that may be the healthier choice.
Keep eating those flamin' hots and drinking the Kool-Aid..with extra sugar.
Only one strategy will work: HIRE MORE COPS!!!
I'm a sibling of a CPD officer in NYC on business...I saw more cops here on my ten-block walk down 5th Avenue than I've seen on the "Mugnificent Mile" in years.
Did stop an ask an officer if they would take McMuggings/McMurders back; the respose was a snort and "No. He's all yours."
Be safe, all.
Sorry, OT but a vent from a citizen who supports the fine men and women in blue of our city.
I can understand that PO's have discretion on issuing (or not) tickets -- parking, maybe speeding I can understand -- but when there is an accident with injuries and lots of damage to 2 vehicles -- why the hell not issue a ticket?
I unfortunately was the passenger of a taxi that hit a parked car and flipped. Thankfully no life threatening injuries, but I'm afraid there may be quality of life issues down the road (injured back/neck). In the ER, I asked the RO/paper car if he gave the cabbie a ticket, his response was what good would it do me? It would only give the city some $$$, that was it. He suggested I contact his insurance co. ASAP. At the time, I was thinking about other times this guy might have done the same thing, but had gotten a pass. In addition, I am now pissed that I find out the PO decided not to make the city $$$$ by issuing the ticket, but yet I cannot get a copy of the full police report without having to pay a relatively small amount. PO's are so concnered with the little $ that would be generated by giving me the full report for my records than giving the cabbie a ticket who caused the accident and caused the city $$$$$$$ in emergency response costs.
Sorry for the vent, but a very supportive citizen is just sore and pissy b/c of the situation -- victim gets screwed and the offender gets away -- once again.
Sorry Mr. citizen...and I could be wrong here, but as I recall, when an accident occurs in which an injury is documented and fault can be determined, the old G.O. on traffic crash investigation clearly stated that 'enforcement should be taken (ticket issued).' If the officer failed to do that, and you were injured, you should follow up on that. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine the cabbie screwed up if he struck a parked vehicle.
I can understand that PO's have discretion on issuing (or not) tickets -- parking, maybe speeding I can understand -- but when there is an accident with injuries and lots of damage to 2 vehicles -- why the hell not issue a ticket?
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The usual reasom is because the police didn't observe the alleged violation.
When two parties have differing stories on what happened, more often than not the police will not issue a ticket because they weren't there to observe what happened.
Even without the officer being there to observe the violation, it is often simple to determine who did what in a crash. Sometimes the pod cameras will record the crash; it just takes someone with the initiative to ask to look and see if the pod captured it. Many times it's just poor training in T.C. investigation, lack of initiative, or just plain laziness. It's comical when these same officers will call and complain about a family member being involved in a crash in which tickets weren't issued, or bash the officers who handled the crash of their family member/significant other here on the blog.
PO's are so concnered with the little $ that would be generated by giving me the full report for my records than giving the cabbie a ticket who caused the accident and caused the city $$$$$$$ in emergency response costs.
Police reports are documents not meant to be made public, it is a state law - not our rules. You have to use the Freedom of Information Act or use another law.
agree with you 100%. You got guys in 007 that are so burnt out that it's sad. I'm talking about guys with 10+ years on, all in that hell of a district and no where to go and no chance of leaving. The department does not realize how dangerous this situation is and I'm sure they don't care either.
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You mean Leo's rah rah speeches aren't raising your spirits. After all the promises of what he will do for you (meaning do for himself). You can always tell the quality of a boss by the number of people who follow him to his new command. In his case 0, always 0. Leo is and always has been a shameless self promoter who took credit for other people's work. This is his opportunity to show his true abilities. Working cops get no where and useless clout hacks like Leo get promoted to commander. No wonder we are lost as a department.
Maybe the president should ask them to stop the violence. Just maybe?
Sorry, OT but a vent from a citizen who supports the fine men and women in blue of our city.
I can understand that PO's have discretion on issuing (or not) tickets -- parking, maybe speeding I can understand -- but when there is an accident with injuries and lots of damage to 2 vehicles -- why the hell not issue a ticket?
I unfortunately was the passenger of a taxi that hit a parked car and flipped. Thankfully no life threatening injuries, but I'm afraid there may be quality of life issues down the road (injured back/neck). In the ER, I asked the RO/paper car if he gave the cabbie a ticket, his response was what good would it do me? It would only give the city some $$$, that was it. He suggested I contact his insurance co. ASAP. At the time, I was thinking about other times this guy might have done the same thing, but had gotten a pass. In addition, I am now pissed that I find out the PO decided not to make the city $$$$ by issuing the ticket, but yet I cannot get a copy of the full police report without having to pay a relatively small amount. PO's are so concnered with the little $ that would be generated by giving me the full report for my records than giving the cabbie a ticket who caused the accident and caused the city $$$$$$$ in emergency response costs.
Sorry for the vent, but a very supportive citizen is just sore and pissy b/c of the situation -- victim gets screwed and the offender gets away -- once again.
6/18/2012 10:48:00 AM
Sorry you experienced such a bad accident. I hope your injuries are not ongoing. You're right, issuing a citation is at the discretion of the officer. I personally would have written one based on my experience with observing and reporting traffic accidents, especially where personal injury is involved. Each officer is different. Most would have written the driver. Still, it is not necessary in order for the insurance company to ascertain fault. They will find out what occurred and hopefully you and your bills will be taken care of.
The violence won't stop until Mayor and Superintendent start addressing personal culpability:
16 year-old victim:
Why were her parents letting her hangout outside in the middle of the night? Why weren't they screening her friends? Etc.
Cops can be parked at every corner, and still won't be able to contain stupidity and poor parenting.
New strategy = collateral damage at times. That's what happens when the mayor decides crime strategy is to stop hiring police down size a department and kill moral with a jackass supt. the strategy is to let all the shit head gangbangers kill off each other. However bad shots here and there result in innocent collateral damage at times. This strategy does however work better than locking them up and letting Anita plead them out to probation or actually get a legit sentances conviction and old Quinny set em free to kill again.
Who would name there daughter SHAKAKI? Nevermind..
New strategy = collateral damage at times. That's what happens when the mayor decides crime strategy is to stop hiring police down size a department and kill moral with a jackass supt. the strategy is to let all the shit head gangbangers kill off each other. However bad shots here and there result in innocent collateral damage at times. This strategy does however work better than locking them up and letting Anita plead them out to probation or actually get a legit sentances conviction and old Quinny set em free to kill again.
6/19/2012 08:24:00 AM
actually, that seems like a strategy.....never thought of it like that.......
CRAP = Crummy Rotten Asshat Pinheads. By extension, COMPSTAT = Complete Obfuscation Makes Pseudo Superintendent's Total AsshaTtery
I like the guy who said that coppers don't write tickets after accidents because they are lazy. I want to go to court and watch you at work, you will be a laugh a minute.
Judge: So you observed the defendent driving too fast for conditions.
Officer: No your honor, but that would make sense wouldn't it, DUH.
Besides the other motorist told me he was speeding.
Judge: Is the other party in court today?
Crickets chirping....
I bet you are even a bigger hoot at Probable Cause hearings, if you have ever been to one
"Working cops get no where and useless clout hacks like Leo get promoted to commander. No wonder we are lost as a department.
6/19/2012 12:48:00 AM"
Amen to that. Knew him during his brief foray in Area 5.
3 Dollar bill personified
"Mike you going to be "one and done" if you don't start talking and mking yourself seen. Stop using the bullshit that IM BUSY, were you busy when you ran for office. Maybe make another youtube video.... It is time MIKE ot stepdown and let someone with balls run FOP (union). Thats right we are not a union only a fraternal organization."
I recall the 100s of posts on this site calling for new blood& change in the Union. Your wish was granted& now your bitching? Priceless.
You mean Leo's rah rah speeches aren't raising your spirits. After all the promises of what he will do for you (meaning do for himself). You can always tell the quality of a boss by the number of people who follow him to his new command. In his case 0, always 0. Leo is and always has been a shameless self promoter who took credit for other people's work. This is his opportunity to show his true abilities. Working cops get no where and useless clout hacks like Leo get promoted to commander. No wonder we are lost as a department.
6/19/2012 12:48:00 AM
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You can just remove Leo's name here and replace it with Kevin P. Ryan. You still get the same outcome.
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