Contract is Now Expired
The clock runs out on Chicago's Police Department and Fire Department union contracts Saturday night, but don't expect any difference in how cops and firefighters respond to emergencies around the city if the deal remains unresolved.
Both unions are prohibited from striking, and it's not unusual for contract talks to drag on past the "drop dead" date as the two groups haggle with the city over salaries, incentives and contract minutiae.
If history is any indicator, it could be years before a new contract is in place. Last time around, police and fire deals that expired in 2007 weren't replaced with new ones until 2010. Cops and firefighters worked under the terms of their old deals until new ones were worked out, and the same will happen this time when agreements aren't reached by Saturday night.
Then there's this nonsense that always pops up:
- Citing a "gentlemen's agreement" with the city not to negotiate in public, Fraternal Order of Police President Michael Shields declined to discuss the status of talks on a new deal.
"Gentlemen's Agreements" only work when one is negotiating with actual gentlemen. Persons who mail dead fish around, stab podiums and confront naked Congressmen in the shower arne't usually "gentlemen."
As in years past, Rahm will use the old Shortshanks trick of dropping friendly media types stories that can smear the cops, firefighters and teachers. He's already got a PR firm running attack ads against the teachers for even daring to hold a strike vote. And just last week, he had his tame Sun Times reporters running a story about firefighter "perks" that raised their pay - raises completely in line with other fire departments across the country and completely within the bounds of negotiated contracts.
Labels: contract stuff
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
125 Comments:
NOW I ain't doin' nothin.
Huhh, I stopped actually awhile ago.
The "city" has told the sergeant's they would like to have the contact settled by labor day.
What could their SCAM be ? ? ?
The clock runs out on Chicago's Police Department and Fire Department union contracts Saturday night, but don't expect any difference in how cops and firefighters respond to emergencies around the city if the deal remains unresolved.
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GUESS AGAIN ASSHOLES ! ! !
enjoy your retro check.
The Evil Racoon playing in his favorite environment.
From the comments in an earlier post......
011/3rd Fed-Up-Sgt. said...
Tell me, your a boss like Wysinger and your short-handed with police officers, crime is spiking, and you need to give solutions to the problem.......well sure EVERYONE knows we need to hire more police officers BUT......say that is NOT an option right now...now what? ..........Go ahead and come up with a solution. Thought so. The only solution left is to DENY time due. When I was PO i actually "enjoyed" coming to work. These useless excuses for police officers I supervise today are a sad joke. You selfish officers just care about yourselves. You would rather have someone working 99 on a beat car answering jobs so you could be at home doing the same thing you do when your at work......"NOTHING"!!! So quit your crying all you crybabies. Do your job and quit bitching for HAVING to do ur job.....that's what u get paid for anyway. Boo f*cking hoo.......and if it's your child's birthday then PLAN it on ur RDO!
6/30/2012 07:09:00 AM
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First, your introduction said... "011/3rd Fed-Up-Sgt." It's not "FED-UP-SGT", it's "FUCKED-UP-SGT".
Second, when we took this job we were told we can accrue comp time. I cannot find anything in our contract that says the comp time we accrue is to be saved until retirement. Each time we "burn time" that day off costs us roughly $200.
Third, there is only so much control one has over what family obligations fall on your RDO. You see other family members have birthdays, weddings, graduations, communions, anniversaries, ect...
as a father, son, brother, godfather, it it my responsibility to attend other functions. Just because the City is failing in it's responsibility to hire adequate support does not make it my or any other P.O's problem.
Fourth, and finally, I NEVER hold it against my co-workers for taking time due. If your anger were directed at medical abusers or dog-asses your rant would be justified. Instead it just proves what kind of fucked up supervisors some of us have on this job.
Have a nice day SARG.
--GFY
Look for medical, IOD, and uniform check abuse stories. Rahm will leak smear campaigns against us. Forget about NATO successes.
IT'S ABOUT VALUES.
Fictitious Union Contracts and Fraudulent Broken Windows Sermons.
Let me ask you something.
We all have heard on more than one occasion from certain leaders about the message that is sent to the public by the choice of words that we use in our communications.
Oh be careful what you say because those words conjure up images they say -- and so we come up with multiple offender incidents to replace the word MOB for example.
Then. We are also preached to about messages that are sent via "Broken Windows" crime fighting methodology.
Sweat the little stuff because it sends a message about what is and is not tolerable and what has meaning. The laws have meaning!
Well do union contracts have meanings?
What do the words and signatures mean -- look at your pension funding and what was agreed to before you answer that. Is that something that a gentleman does his people that are assigned to protecting the leaders social-economic position on the Manslow pyramid of needs. Think about it.
Shouldn't that same Broken Windows message sending mindset apply to the union contract?
The brass is keenly aware of the message that is sent by their actions. Are you receiving it loud and clear yet?
What kind of message is being sent out to the tens of thousands of loyal, dedicated, public servants that are oh-so highly valued when they are needed for an election time photo-op but are left hanging with their financial futures in purgatory as contract negotiations drag on and on for years.
How long did it take to put together a 100 year parking meter contract my friends -- are you getting the message?
Yeah the contract dragged on for years last time around. Like the rise in homicides it's acceptable now so maybe the union contract can be dragged out for decades this time eh?
Who knows how that rule 28.1's meaning will be twisted.
Like the recent supreme court ruling that twisted the word penalty into meaning a tax so that Obamacare can tax you for not having health insurance if one chooses not to buy it.
All we say is hey you got your Nato now give the police and fire what they want..be fare!!!
Consider this, the next contract will very likely be expired shortly after we get it too. 3 years at the least. More likely 4 to 5 years. Enjoy life under Rahm. I am retiring in October. Fuck this place.
No Contract! No raise! = just answer the radio and that's it!
Proactive Police work is on Furlough!
•Citing a "gentlemen's agreement" with the city not to negotiate in public, Fraternal Order of Police President Michael Shields declined to discuss the status of talks on a new deal.
Hey Mike -
Why don't you just end it now and tell everyone that you F-ed up and that we ARE NOT in any talks with the city.
Why prolong the inevitable.
Gentleman this. Fuck this city. Shields is already bought and paid for. I for one will only answer my calls and take my sweet ass time doing so. And if any of you had an ounce of fuckin brains inside that over educated head of yours, you would do the same thing.
if rahm beats the teachers, we will be in the same boat. and we are not playing patty cake when it comes to contract negotiations. if you think rahm is a gentleman, what kind of man throws the f bomb at a woman?any one else would be crucified. the libs cut him slack because he is one of them. why do think valerie had him run out d.c. he thinks bully tactics will win out. oh, and by the way if you want to live out of the city, put a bag in a apartment, and do like him.
Anonymous said...
IT'S ABOUT VALUES.
Well Said.
Back in the day, the PO job was to make his boss look good but in return the boss would throw you a few bones, coming in late taking an early duck, the PO would never abuse these perks and would produce for the boss the needed numbers he needed to look good for his boss. Sounds simple and it worked, you make a good arrest the boss would throw a few extra hours on the books . It sounds like now the CPD is a one way street with threats and no moral.
The present boss's are clout babies and not real police from the street so for you real police on the street today remember to take care number one, you.
A retired guy from back in the day
Contract is Now Expired- Smear Campaigns-
Oh yeah, just wait. There'll be a story a week.
Scandals, too.
Maybe that ERPS theft scandal will suddenly pop up again soon. What ever happened with that,anyway?
That "genteman's agreement" is bullshit anyway...where is the taxpayer represented, exactly?? It's our fucking money!!
Make the negotiations public...what is everyone afraid of, transparency? When I found out that fire fighters get a $1000 annual laundry allowance I wanted to throw up. It's that kind of "perk" the public is fed up with. How many more like tht are there?
Anonymous said...
Its good. The FOP isn't as dumb as you people think. Stay tuned.
6/28/2012 09:45:00 PM
I will admit that FOP is not as dumb as I think they are because I just can't believe they are that dumb. But how dumb are they?
WOO HOO....I got nothing but confidence in Mickey Shields and the FOP....let the retro check countdown begin. Gooooo Team !
OT: There will be a memorial service tonight 2 July 12 at 0200 Belmont and Western in memory of Rick Francis
Just leave it as it is. Every contract gets worse. No raise, no increase in medical payment, because any raise always gets taken back with a raise in other costs.
Just a sympathetic citizen here, I am also disgusted at treatment of PO's when we need you out here in the most violent areas. I agree the moron parents could all drop off the face of the planet and very few of us would be left that put our children first. Cease Fire - more money flushed down the toliet, and they won't snitch??? What? Watch those 2 districts they are in spike up as what goes around comes around just want to say sorry and please don't take it out on the citizens that need you. and let us know if there is anything we can do to help, God bless you stay safe and keep protecting us, we appreciate you even if City hall doesn't.
What used to take years will now be cut at least in half, just like the finger. This guy on the 5th floor moves much faster than did short shanks. I predict new contract by the end of 2013. Getting out now at age 55 and under the old contract.
Why can't we break away from all other unions and become a total seperate union??
No Fire/No Teachers/Nothing attached, no piggy back clause, time to look out for ourselves.
remember last contract which gave us a whopping 6.5 % pay raise over 5 years ( the 5 year deal was agreed to so no interference during election year )--- remember obama's coronation in grant park that went off without a hitch--- remember marching around city hall while the olympic committee was here to embarass daley--- remember nato--- remember possum head and g-mac bragging about how homeycides and crime is down because the police are doing a good job--- it's time to pay up mr. mayor but we all know this one will probably get settled 2 or 3 years down the road just like all the others--- have fun with the guy sitting next to you in the car for 8.5 hours and back each other up.....
Hey Sarge,
You obviously don't know that there's life outside this job. You know some of us got married, had kids and even have friends that are not the police. We don't watch made up police shows or read police magazines. We don't talk police stories outside work. That's why some of us have a strong and happy family life. You are a lifer and obviously a loser with nothing better to do but fuck with co workers. Your stripes mean nothing, goof ! You would never make it outside CPD.
what else is new.
TO: 011/3rd Fed-Up-Sgt.
I wished I worked for you!
I would be willing to trip you up! Embarrass your ignorant ass! And leave you hanging in a bad light! Just like you are doing now! You Pussy!
KMA Officer
If this is gonna make you a dog so be it, but why don't you quit posting it, there are guys out here still working not abusing the medical. Genius you want the public to respect us FYI They read this blog and a lot of You guys sound like babies. I know were getting Fucked but we can make the public aware without losing the respect of the civilians on our side. What really makes.me laugh you think your hurting the bosses or mayor by being a dog. News flash your not important enough. You are only fucking your fellow workers and the real victims. 013 district. 19 yrs on
The mayor = F**K my first responders. I tell ya, we put our lives on the line everyday and he treats us like dog shit on the bottom of his shoe.
FOP needs to rally everybody once a week, get the publics attention and support about the Mayor pocketing the money budgeted for the approx 1,600 police officers were are currently short. a couple bill boards isnt going to cut it
The CPD has ALREADY taken a cut to their budget, to the tune of a MINIMUM of at least 100 MILLION DOLLARS, in the form of CUTTING 1400 positions on the department. That figure doesn't include the medical, pension & benefits paid to those who've been cut from the department.
So Emanuel can play whatever game he wants to try, the reality that needs to be shoved in front of the public's face is that the CPD has ALREADY given back millions of dollars to the city by killing off the department manpower.
We've already done our bit for king and kingdom. We're not about to give them back anything more than we already have.
The "money's just not there" mantra can go fuck itself since the "money seems to be there" whenever they wanna purchase votes from their connected friends.
There better be no givebacks in this contract.
What if we have another financial crisis in the next year? Can we walk away from negotiations for a year? It would be a helluva benefit to be able to do that if the economy heads South,,,,,,,again. Both sides are trying to be slick with 28.1, I actually think the police union has the upper hand. That is, of course, unless Rahm's proposals to have to fire fighters each give back $7-10k is complete bullshit (which I doubt).
Don't you guys get it? Shields is not bought and paid for at all. We have a long history of being bought and paid for at the FLOP. That's why we always went first with the contract. Not anymore.
6: 28 am although your justified in your anger and disdain for this half man/half troll mayor and his gold braid minions, it is not the fault of the citizen calling 911. There might be some bullshit concerning those calls but for the most part the calls are legitimate. Remember, you wear the best uniform in the world, the oath you took is your bond to your fellow officer and citizen. Fuck these politicians! They are a dime a dozen, you my friend are one of a kind. Lets try not to take it out on the citizen that calls for help. Lets band together, ala a political action commitee. Friends, families, like minded citizens, together CAN CHANGE THE POLITICAL CLIMATE. Ass kissers, boot lickers aside, in the CPD, there are enough VOTERS , in the CPD, CFD,CTU,to change the political climate. Believe me, there is reason for skeptism, coppers never stick together, but its NOW A MATTER OF LIFE OR DEATH. The reason reverends and pseudo community activist get what they want is because they have hold of a voter base, with the use of local gangs, it a win at the polls. Get your political act together, GET INVOLVED, there is no reason to keep towing the company line. The mayor thinks you have a patronage job, you will vote for the machine, so he can stick it to you. Election time is November, illinois /city elections are also around the corner. Show these assholes, the tax payers, yes, CPD, CFD, CTU, are taxpayers, that are balled and chained to the city, will no longer accept business as usual. Lets keep being the heroes, good citizens, need first responders to react quickly and protect those in need. Please dont take out this political bullshit on the citizens that dial 911 for help. Be it a permit parking ticket, noise disturbuance, terrorist with their pants to their knees , showing their dirty ass, or my parents fighting. SHOW the citizens, HOW IMPORTANT YOUR PROFESSION REALLY IS. Most of us, love to see the squad car, pass more then once, on our block. We love to see the shitheads move off our fences and street corners, when you pass by. When theres an accident or shots fired, there is a sense of reassurrace when one sees the flashing blue lights. My kids wave and salute the officers in their squards, all the time. Sometimes they get a cold stare, but most of the time the officers wave and flash the blues and give them a little woot woot sound from the sirens. It means so much to them, they dont understand, that if you live in certain neighborhoods, some officers forget their human. So please, officer, dont give up on us, because we have not given up on you. Thank you for your service. Be safe.
Anonymous said...
No Contract! No raise! = just answer the radio and that's it!
Proactive Police work is on Furlough!
7/01/2012 05:16:00 AM
That's great, we can all agree on radio response only, stop & frisk? Traffic stopping the guilty? Not a fucking chance.
But what you'd better get used to is a negligible if any raise in the short term. The city will cry broke and an arbiter will weigh that heavily. Quinn will NOT move on Casinos this year until state contracts are finalized to EXCLUDE that money, THEN he'll give up the casinos and take all that profit for himself and none for labor. What we will likely see is a 5 year contract with 2 year reopeners and the first reopener will be the same offer the CTU was offered, 2% for the first 2 years and a renegotiation after that 2 years. Consider that to be the max an arbiter will give any union. Consider that from now until the foreseeable future ALL contracts will be short term with reopeners. This is due to the constantly changing economy and it will be a point hammered constantly to an arbiter. So expect short term, with reopeners, and a small if ANY raise for a 2 year thing. This will be presented as a good deal to an arbiter because it shows SOME type of raise yet allows for renegotiation in the short term. Consider it more likely ZERO raise for 2 years with a promise of 2% IF revenue goals are met. This means if the CPD ponys up the revenue goal in tickets, they'll get the raise. See how that works now?
For those of you thinking you're gonna get 2% or more a year for 5 years, those days are over for a long time. Yes the cost of everything is increasing, utilities, taxes, food, etc. But that's what's gonna be OUR giveback, not getting raises that keep up with it but lag behind. And an arbiter will agree because he'll use the "what's happening across the country" thing to support a pittance raise and the short term.
Bank on that, and no reductions in current contractual obligations like holidays or uniform allowance. Duty availability will be redefined by the city, and unless the FOP can prove that it was created as an end run around raises, we'll see THAT go the city's way as well.
You'll not see your pay reduced, and your pensionable salary will not be reduced either, just one or two "perks".
That and you'll see the city try and force revenue boosters on the CPD to force them to produce revenue in order to obtain raises. Tough wording the correctly, but that's what they will attempt to do from now on. You make the taxpayers pay now, and they'll give you a small raise in return.
Hey did you read todays Sunday's Trib and Sun-Times? they each were stuffed with how much the people who steal our tax money are raising taxes! To make it worse the city of Chicago is showing raises of 3%,while others are showing 5%+ Is that money built in for rahm and friends??
Anonymous said...
Gentleman this. Fuck this city. Shields is already bought and paid for. I for one will only answer my calls and take my sweet ass time doing so. And if any of you had an ounce of fuckin brains inside that over educated head of yours, you would do the same thing.
7/01/2012 06:28:00 AM
We make good money. I'm still going to do my job. Stop trying to rationalize your dogass-ness.
Shields and company dropped the ball, they may claim intentionally. by not notifying the city of the cancellation of the current contract. The city has agreed to negotiate, only after all other unions, Lts, Sgts, Capts, Fire, etc. have concluded their negotiations which means FOP will be forced to take what the others agree upon. You never want to be in this position. We learned the me too is not a good thing because the city uses it against us. "We can't give you more because we already promised fire this much."
011/3rd Fed-Up-Sgt. said...
Hey Fed Up Sgt.... Go to hell you ass kissing merit piece of shit!
Teacher's lost a 4% raise in Jan
and have every right to strike.
CPD should stop making any narcotic arrests , write paper on every crime , respond to calls safely , enforce every ordinance passed by our city council , write parking tickets by the aldercreatures office and store front churches . Do not report for work when you're sick or take time due , use our medical benefit before it's taken away .
Most Important back each other up and refuse to respond to a burglar alarm , domestic , teen disturbance as a one man unit .
Wait for your assist car . We all know District Commanders still hide their favorites in the front office while we risk our lives . Office police receive the same pay , weekends off and have more war stories than the working copper.
Office should be manned by light duty and old timers , not eye candy.
The "city" has told the sergeant's they would like to have the contact settled by labor day.
What could their SCAM be ? ? ?
7/01/2012 12:17:00 AM
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The teachers are going out on strike.
He doesn't need a town with HUGE labor unrest just before a national election.
He's going to try to divide and conquer and pit us against each other. It's MUCH harder to fight teachers, firemen and cops than it is to fight just the teachers alone.
Bend over, here it comes. we are going to get screwed, no other way to say it, but Screwed.
Here's a novel idea guys: everyone be on their best behavior, on and off duty! Don't do ANYTHING that leads to a CR and or news story. Designated drivers, while tough to find, WORK!
We should all be doing that anyway, but we sometimes need a little reminder apparently.
O.T.
Just read an article stating that the former Chief Administrator of the Office of Professional Standards, (now known as IPRA) Lori Lightfoot has a 3-1 shot at replacing Patrick Fitzgerald. Just one more slap in the face to the Police who she loves to hammer. Rumor has it she left OPS in a shambles, but rewarding the incompetent is the Chicago/Democratic way.
In the heart of the ghetto yesterday night, there were two old guys making an arrest. Both over 50 years old. It was hot and humid, with sweat beading off their faces. Meanwhile, two young guys, both under 32 years old did absolutely nothing except enjoy the air conditioning in their car. All this bull over this contract and the shortage of police officers is going to have the older cops probably die on the job due to political beliefs that aren't helping anyone anytime soon. So much for happy retirements.
Anonymous said...
Gentleman this. Fuck this city. Shields is already bought and paid for. I for one will only answer my calls and take my sweet ass time doing so. And if any of you had an ounce of fuckin brains inside that over educated head of yours, you would do the same thing.
7/01/2012 06:28:00 AM
I hope you or your family never call the police for anything, but if they do, I hope someone like you shows up. Before you jump on this site to express your outrage at the service provided make sure you explain to your family that this is how you work and you sympathize with the officer.
To the rant posted by 011/3rd fed up sgt - you are a nothing but a complete moron with chevrons. You are a prime example of the problem . I would bet you are another meritoriously promoted hack, one of a 100 on this department, seething with anger because you cannot further your career on the backs of the patrolmen who are done sticking their necks out for a city administration which treats them as indentured servants. You stated that you "used to love coming to work" - of course you would! You knew you had the clout to get a promotion as soon as you signed up for that bs sgt exam. If you had REAL managerial skill, you would not make excuses for the lack of manpower and condone denying time due to officers who wish to spend time with their families/friends/ etc. You should be addressing the issue with a real solution - hiring officers instead punishing those you have. Any supervisor with half a brain knows that overworked and miserable employees are not productive. And if you prefer to be at work instead of spending time with your family, that is your choice; most people enjoy their homelife. Very sad to see you starting your supervisory career as a "yes-man" at such an early stage. Thank god not all supervisors think like you. Some advise to my brothers and sisters in blue, and the few good bosses left : " NEVER ALLOW SOMEONE TO BE YOUR PRIORITY WHILE YOU ARE JUST THEIR OPTION" - unknown
Anyone with less than 10 yrs lookout Rahm wants to change you to a 401k.
Anonymous said...
All comp time for the month of July and August in 011 2nd watch has been denied by the Lieutenant.
Only he can take Comp Time in July and August.
Just ask him why he is listed as "CU" for 1 July 2012 on the sheets. WHO APPROVED YOUR CU LT?
Is this discrimination against all us 9161's? Sounds like a grievance should be filed and Legal Action should be taken by Lodge against the department and these self serving egomaninac bosses.
What a joke all these so called bosses have become.
6/30/2012 07:35:00 PM
Just listen to yourselves! "We will file a grievance". Some of you sound like pussies. The solution is simple; STICK TOGETHER & DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! The city treats you like shit because they get away with it each and every single time. What happens to a bully if you do nothing? Now what happens to a bully when they push you and you push back?
well lets not get nuts here. some of the fire departments "extra" training where they get an extra 2000 dollars is a little crazy. I wont call out the specifics of the different trainings but even ill admit its off the wall. Either way you look at it though... its not going to be a good thing for any of us. I predict we will put more into pension, pay more for our medical and will only get about 1 percent a year. which is my math is correct will leave us making about 21 dollars less than what we are currently making per check... depending on what you have deducted for your taxes. so, by the end of the contract we will be making about 42 dollars less than we are right now because of the tier system for paying for medical. It wont all go into effect right away.. they usually stagger it throughout the contract. so if you add it up the last year of our contract we will be making 1008 dollars less per year if my scenario is correct.. which Im guessing it will be.
he clock runs out on Chicago's Police Department and Fire Department union contracts Saturday night, but don't expect any difference in how cops and firefighters respond to emergencies around the city if the deal remains unresolved.
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GUESS AGAIN ASSHOLES ! ! !
7/01/2012 12:18:00 AM
hahahah, yeah ok tuff guy. Just like you all said at last contract. but I know I know, this time its gonna be different. ahhahaha, yeah right. Your all as soft as puppy sh*t with your tuff talk. Hey, hows that work slow down we were all gonna do under weis??? but, your all still out there doing it every day every minute.
FOP will ride the coat tails of sgt and lt unions this time , be carefull supervisors may give up duty availability to keep 45 min a day comp time and thousands in quarterly supervisors checks for doing nada . BFD's and personal days may be a thing of the past.
OT
Be very careful if you are a white police officer working in a black district. McCarthy is laying the ground work to solidify his job despite any disagreements with Rahm.
He is pandering now, but he will soon offer up a sacrificial lamb to lock in black support even when crime in their neighborhoods is out of control.
Soon, he will offer them a white police officer. He will tell them not to blame him for out of control crime. He will tell the community that some white police officer is to blame for the highest murder rate in 10 years.
The chance will present itself. Don't sacrifice yourself.
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/bill-kellys-truth-squad/2012/jun/27/police-chief-blames-pilgrims-cops-chicago-violence/
SLOW DOWN.....complete stop..would you like me to explain the difference?
I hope there are some down wires i can sit on for about 5 hours then off to lunch.
Woof
P.O s themselves will never learn, they will still go out and bring activity beyond what's expected. When the city gives it to you from behind make sure to smile.
Still do my usual ZERO activity...can't make me see shit.
NATO, now equls No Another Time Off
For everyone that believes the city is to broke to afford raises, consider this. On 19mar2011, the New York Times ran an article on the O'Hare airport's western access. 3.57 billion was appropriated. Where's the money? The city had no answer for the reporter.
It was the same sgt's who took time due at will when blue shirt and are doing the same in a white shirt. Your boss is getting on you ahhh too bad. Your uncle promissed you this wouldn't happen when he promoted you meritoriously.
July 5 no actively I'm on board great idea
Gentleman this. Fuck this city. Shields is already bought and paid for. I for one will only answer my calls and take my sweet ass time doing so. And if any of you had an ounce of fuckin brains inside that over educated head of yours, you would do the same thing.
And if you had an ounce of fuckin brains inside that over educated head of yours, you wouldnt type while drunk asshole
How about cracking down on those who abuse the medical? Those on the medical shouldn't get duty availability checks since they're not available.
To: dogass copper said...
Who wrote, "Hey Sarge,
You obviously don't know that there's life outside this job. You know some of us got married, had kids and even have friends that are not the police. We don't watch made up police shows or read police magazines. We don't talk police stories outside work. That's why some of us have a strong and happy family life. You are a lifer and obviously a loser with nothing better to do but fuck with co workers. Your stripes mean nothing, goof ! You would never make it outside CPD.
7/01/2012 08:50:00 AM"
I don't know of whom you write, but there are those who have had some bad breaks in life. Spouses have died, family and friends moved away, kids you love are not there for you. You then take care of the only "family" you have left. I don't know who is the "Sarge" you wrote about but you have no right to call him, or anyone else a goof.
Anonymous said...
For everyone that believes the city is to broke to afford raises, consider this. On 19mar2011, the New York Times ran an article on the O'Hare airport's western access. 3.57 billion was appropriated. Where's the money? The city had no answer for the reporter.
7/01/2012 02:05:00 PM
Where is the City and Rahm getting the $250 million bucks (quarter Billion) to build a new Malcolm X College and what is wrong with the current one?
St Ignatius College Prep was built in 1869 and is still going strong and will provide a better education as a High School than Malcolm X College does as a college.
Rahm promised the $250 million some months back and said he "wasn't going to tell the students (of Macolm X) they could not have an education."
Rahm seems to have no problem whatsoever telling police and fire that we can't have the pension we paid for and were promised.
Devious lying rotten bastard mother fucker. Excuse the language but I feel strongly about the subject of lying bastards in high elective office. Especially in Chicago.
well lets not get nuts here. some of the fire departments "extra" training where they get an extra 2000 dollars is a little crazy. I wont call out the specifics of the different trainings but even ill admit its off the wall. Either way you look at it though... its not going to be a good thing for any of us. I predict we will put more into pension, pay more for our medical and will only get about 1 percent a year. which is my math is correct will leave us making about 21 dollars less than what we are currently making per check... depending on what you have deducted for your taxes. so, by the end of the contract we will be making about 42 dollars less than we are right now because of the tier system for paying for medical. It wont all go into effect right away.. they usually stagger it throughout the contract. so if you add it up the last year of our contract we will be making 1008 dollars less per year if my scenario is correct.. which Im guessing it will be.
7/01/2012 01:18:00 PM
You're probably right. Don't forget to add in the extra FOP dues that automatically go up each contract to make our checks evens shorter. Yes they need more money.
Nothing but goose eggs each and every day. I've been in the KMA club for years but this takes on added importance. And not just on July 5 but every day.
Memorial for Rick Francis...Civilian here, knew Rick for many years but best when he tended bar before joining the cops. He was one of the best people you could have for a friend. Good heart,good soul,and a great sense of humor. I still miss him terribly.
Keep it Real Richie enjoy your summer off, we all miss you here stay in touch
In the heart of the ghetto yesterday night, there were two old guys making an arrest. Both over 50 years old. It was hot and humid, with sweat beading off their faces. Meanwhile, two young guys, both under 32 years old did absolutely nothing except enjoy the air conditioning in their car. All this bull over this contract and the shortage of police officers is going to have the older cops probably die on the job due to political beliefs that aren't helping anyone anytime soon. So much for happy retirements.
7/01/2012 12:31:00 PM
You got that right. The officers advocating laying down on the job are the newbies. That would mean anyone with less than 15 years on. I sympathize with them but we still gotta do our job.
Like a true Socialist, Rham ALWAYS has the money for "Community " money grabs . Ever notice the People he is in ALL the Photo-Ops with? He is never with White ,working class people. Not to turn this into a race thing ,but he knows where his votes are going to come from and it is not the people who pay the taxes!
What is with all the idiots getting hard-ons over supposed retro checks?!?!? Assuming there actually is a pay increase, money in the bank now is ALWAYS better than money in the bank later (AKA the retro check). It is a simple matter of comprehension of the time value of money. Do you think it is coincidence that the contract is always settled before the city owes you both the coveted retro check AND the interest you would have earned on that money? If you don't understand the concept, find the nearest grown-up in the room to explain it to you. You may as well be announcing you're happy that the city is earning interest on your earned cash while you wait to get one fat, interest free retro check.
How does one abuse the uniform check?
Here is my problem with the 'fed up sergrants' rant. If he is even a Sgt. What you're forgetting is that many of us had a dad, uncle, etc on this job. We grew up thinking this is the greatest job on earth. If you poll every member of this job as to an influence in their life leading them to take this job, I would bet an astronomical number of folks actually had/have family on the job. Showing the youngsters how much this job sucks is the worst idea in the world. It means that light years from now, when the city starts hiring again, the potential newcomers could be decent people, many of them from police families.
Decimating this job entirely will screw us for years because the younger generations will either not want this job, can't blame them, or we will be seeing applicants that are bigger losers than we have right now who wont see this as a career. What we will be hiring in 10 years are people who just need some money and are too smart to realize this once great career is now a dead end job.
That and you'll see the city try and force revenue boosters on the CPD to force them to produce revenue in order to obtain raises. Tough wording the correctly, but that's what they will attempt to do from now on. You make the taxpayers pay now, and they'll give you a small raise in return.
7/01/2012 10:49:00 AM
Your post sounds reasonable and probable. Its too bad the police did not receive better benefits when our ticket revenue was sky high. Also ticket revenue for CPD can never be as high as it used to be since the City sliced up where we can write tickets with the LAZ parking on meters and DOR on our former ticket writing areas. The city will never see those numbers from CPD again because there are 90% less places to write. So does this mean we just lose out?
3 more years and I'm done.
OT.
http://news.yahoo.com/sci-fi-policing-predicting-crime-occurs-150157831.html
LA has bought into this psychic-network style of policing.
Hey 20 and out. STFU!!!!! Obviously you are one of those loner types that has no family, friends and just live for this job. There is live outside this job.
Anonymous said...OT reply to -
"...For everyone that believes the city is to broke to afford raises, consider this. On 19mar2011, the New York Times ran an article on the O'Hare airport's western access. 3.57 billion was appropriated. Where's the money?..."
The funding will come from the recent U.S. Transportation bill approved, which includes rebuilding the Bobby Rush Red Line.
Most important is WHY did the city F@CK with Ohare Expansion anyway (besides the pocket stuffing cash grab for Shortshanks). Now that the construction of one of the phases is near or at complete, a road has to be built to access it(?) WTF?
Airport of greater Peotone this is partly what put Ol' JJ Jr. in the nervous hospital for exhaustion. That blabber mouth going through some tough times while Lord Shanks is living the high life with his airport deals.
I'll bet there'll be some Obama Cash left to hire a 100 blue shirts come Sep-Oct.
Does anyone think we'd be better off if Davis-Vanecko LLC invested our pension money in some of those airport deals instead of a defunct real estate market ? When will that investigation be completed by the Fed?
The mayor = F**K my first responders. I tell ya, we put our lives on the line everyday and he treats us like dog shit on the bottom of his shoe.
7/01/2012 10:08:00 AM
9.5 wouldn't know what dog shit on his shoe looks like because one of his elite 2 yr. wonder "bodyguards" would throw their body over the stink nugget and take one for the boss.
I love how people get here and spout off such bullshit. Talking about not doing your job and bragging about doing nothing for an entire tour helps nothing. All you are doing is helping Rahm prove his point. That should be like nails on a chalk board. Show up and do what you are supposed to do.
There are ways to still be the police and not feed Rahm's budget. Stop writing tickets and impounding cars. Make arrests when neccesary and contact card everyone. Or just fly around from job to job backing up other coppers and lend a hand. You can still do your job and not generate paper. But driving around for 8 hours with your windows rolled up and the AC cranked up to the Max bitching about how we are going to get fucked by rahm on the contract just means you are a lazy pussy with no regard for your fellow PO's. Get off you cool kid cell phone app and fucking work or pull the plug and get the fuck out.
If bosses want to deny time due the way you fuck them is by making a late arrest and filling out your ot slip then greaving the time you were denied. The city cannot cite manpower every time their is a spike in crime to refuse cu usage. Especially if they continue to understaff patrol. After the first greavance is won they will not want to continue the practice because it will coat them too much money. Rahm is going to try to outmaneuvers us so we need find ways to use the contract to screw us so we need to get used to maneuvering within it.
Did anyone see the video where McCarthy said that white police officers are to blame for violence in the black hoods? FUCK YOU, YOU PIECE OF SHIT SELL OUT. Go give Jessie a reach around you asshole.
Go to shaved for the video.
Anonymous said...
FOP will ride the coat tails of sgt and lt unions this time , be carefull supervisors may give up duty availability to keep 45 min a day comp time and thousands in quarterly supervisors checks for doing nada . BFD's and personal days may be a thing of the past.
7/01/2012 01:29:00 PM
Well if the retards negotiating with the FOP are fucking stupid enough to try and convince an arbitrator that WE have to give up duty availability because the SERGEANTS did in order to keep a perk ONLY THEY GET, it ain't gonna fly exaclty now is it?
Giving the bosses or allowing the bosses to keep a financial perk only THEY get means the city's gonna hafta give US some financial perk in exchange to give up DA.
It's not rocket science. If the bosses give up something that involves US as well, it has to be in exchange for something else, FINANCIAL.
So what financial carrot can the city offer US in exchange for duty availability that we already have that we'd be able to give up?
NOTHING, that's what. There's no "30 or 45 a day" that they can hold over us to get us to give it up.
Remember, it's NEGOTIATION. Means they have to GIVE something to GET something. They have nothing to give us that matches "prep time".
If you think the city's just gonna attempt to take away everything we have and try and convince an arbiter that they deserve to prevail, think again. Arbitration is mediation, not "Emanuel gets everything he wants and the CPD get fucked because he says so".
All those financial grandstands Emanuel's given away already or has declared he IS gonna give away are all proof of money, or the availability to GET that money.
Even a complete idiot for an arbiter isn't blind and I doubt any arbiter is gonna let this punk totally destroy what we already have. It's getting any more that will be tough, and it's up to us to prove he's lying about the cash or his willingness to increase taxes and fines AFTER we settle our contract.
Anonymous said...
Just a sympathetic citizen here, I am also disgusted at treatment of PO's when we need you out here in the most violent areas
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Well here's what you need to do. You need to find a way to make YOUR voices louder than those of all the PAC money Emanuel takes from OUTSIDE the city of Chicago to run his con game in the media on you folks to make you vote for him. See, THAT'S the problem. You folks don't mean SHIT to Emanuel because he doesn't need your money to purchase his elections, he gets it from Hollywood and anywhere else that pushes the money at him. And since he can now funnel in as much money as he wants thanks to Citizens United being upheld at the state and city levels, YOUR opinion won't matter in the least to him. He will spend his millions on himself and all the other aldermen he purchases elections for. And because the public are basically sheeple who believe anything they read in a paper or see on Emanuel's purchased personal TV media, they'll once again put him in office because they believe the lies.
So go find a way to make your voice louder than the money. Find a way to prove to the little runt that YOU hold enough votes to put him out on his arrogant little ass.
THEN maybe you'll get what you want. Until them. money rules the kingdom, not the subjects.
I blame the pilgrims and Bush for this.
Has everyone logged in over at Det Shaved and seen our fearless leader giving his state of the community address? Does this have anything to do with who picked the tobacco?
A spokesperson from The American Pilgram Coalition sets blame on Columbus.
A spokesman for The Columbus Society states via email that the Nords who built the ships are the blame.
Nordic Ancestry.org posted comments on their blog that states if Galieo didn't provide nautical instrumentation they would have no reason to provide ships.
What ever happened to " We are a City of Immigrants".
I expect GMac will go into hiding again and Mr. Donutsinger hole will be addressing the public.
Ah, sure, but just like every other foaming, rabid psycho in this city with a foolproof plan, you've forgotten you're facing the single finest fighting force ever assembled.
FOP will ride the coat tails of sgt and lt unions this time , be carefull supervisors may give up duty availability to keep 45 min a day comp time and thousands in quarterly supervisors checks for doing nada . BFD's and personal days may be a thing of the past.
7/01/2012 01:29:00 PM
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Another 'divide and conquer' post, Rahm? You're trying to pit us against each other, using OUR blog?
The city is pinching pennies so much, our new tact car is a 1987 Yugo.
Hey Sarge...Go Fuck yourself you useless asswipe. Who the fuck do you think you are??? You think your better than us??? I'd rather go through a door with my Brothers than any piss ass so called boss on this job. You are one of those pricks with an inflated ego that thinks you are better and loftier than other people. Some of us don't want the job...we like what we do...being a friend with management is NOT or ever has been on my agenda. You ALL can go fuck yourselves. I know my job kid...I never needed some egotistical white shirt prick to tell me what to do...fuck off sarge.
RetFedLeo here again,
Just a quick question.
Did you sign on for the money or because you thought you could help your fellow man?
If for the money you fucked yourself!
There are easier jobs that pay more without getting stabbed or shot at!! If you make a split second error you become news, BAD NEWS!
Years ago Cops held a position of honor and pride among those they protected; hell they were liked by all (except the thugs).
Reality check: Now days it is sad that no one seems to care about cops UNLESS cops are saving their ass!
It’s not the old days anymore, (no more street justice)! If someone is videoing you, fuck it…who cares…ignore them…you know how to do the job right so just do it right. Don’t give them what they want for “film at 11”
What the hell happened between then and now?
I will tell you…
PUBLIC INFIGHTING AND BAD COPS! Only you can fix that.
Every one of you is a Knight doing battle. You have to fight almost every minute of every day.
All that comes with the job and you knew it when you signed on. (The only time a cop should complain is when the coffee is cold and the donut is stale.)
The rest of the bullshit can be taken care of at the voting booth. Whatever happens after the vote, suck it up because you took on the job to protect and serve!
Or quit and go find that big money job!
May Gods peace be with you and protect you all!
Fact from the knowledge of a Wheel gun Cop....for every cop who says he isn't doing nothing from now on, there is five hair gels with a polishing knob kit running up the numbers...FACT
Anonymous said...
For everyone that believes the city is to broke to afford raises, consider this. On 19mar2011, the New York Times ran an article on the O'Hare airport's western access. 3.57 billion was appropriated. Where's the money? The city had no answer for the reporter.
7/01/2012 02:05:00 PM
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The answer to that is pretty simple isn't it?
The mayor and alderman or state rep's will borrow the money by selling bonds.
In essence they'll put it on the cities credit card and then tell the tax payers how broke THEY are, just look at all these bills -- and then tell US that WE need to live within OUR means and stop being so extravagant because in doing so they can/will demand more taxes while playing the victims and awarding contracts to their clouted friends in exchange for campaign contributions.
They don't want you to follow the money trail more than one hop though.
They are counting on the taxpayers having short memories and being easily distracted with b.s. media stories about who attended what campaign fundraiser and what kind of clothes they wore.
The NATO expenses for example and the comment that the taxpayers will not have to pay a single dime. Nope! That's right, not a single dime.
The city is going to get the money from the Fed and where does the Fed get the money? TAXES on YOU. TAXES ON ME.
But if the money is from the taxpayer to the federal government and then paid to Rahm for NATO expenses we're not suppose to see that money laundering trail. No it's from the Fed.
Oh-no it's the Fed's money and to top it off that money is borrowed too and so if Rahm get's, say $15 million from the Fed government you can add maybe about 5% per year on top of that to pay back the loans plus the interest on the bonds we sold to investors.
Same goes for the Ohare $3.5 billion.
Add the interest rate for the bonds sold to enable the contracts to be awarded to the clouted friends and family members and that's what the taxpayers will have to pay.
It's a Ponzi scam pyramid scheme that's running out of new Ponzi's and that's one reason why they're waving the illegal immigrants into the country.
Pyramid scams like this ALWAYS depend on a constant flow of new and more people into the system to pay off the old Ponzi suckers.
It's not sustainable. The wheels are coming off as they twist the meaning of words to obfuscate and defend what's going on?
Oh yeah. Don't you see how good that "quantitative easing" is? It creates jobs and growth and that's a good thing. hahahaha..
Just don't look at your income statement for you IRA, 401K or pension plan because with each notch they push the "quantitative easing" button the interest rate being paid on your savings goes down in essence destroying the value of your savings and prior work by destroying your purchasing power.
So, now that there will be penalties imposed for not purchasing health insurance, will that money come directly off the top of each month's LINK card?
Sergeant's said...
The "city" has told the sergeant's they would like to have the contact settled by labor day.
What could their SCAM be ? ? ?
7/01/2012 12:17:00 AM
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Yeah well I would like a unicorn that craps rainbow colored candy too do you think I'm gonna get one?
Why do these so-called gentlemen ever let a contract expire in the first place before the new agreement is in place?
Wouldn't that be the honorable thing to do?
I mean it wasn't much of a problem in writing a 100 year parking meter contract with their friends -- so where does that put our most respected members of our society on their scale of worth: The Teachers, the Fireman, the Police -- on their personal Manslow pyramid of social economics?
I know where about $15 million dollars of city money went that should of either gone into the pensions or used to put more officers on the streets or for promotions and raises!
The $15 million dollars went into the settlement fund for 900 war protestors civil rights violations because the CPD blindly followed the orders in their chain of command to inflate someone's clouted ego.
That's what happens when you play the "professional courtesy" look the other way game. It affects all of us.
RetFedLeo here again,
Just a quick question.
Did you sign on for the money or because you thought you could help your fellow man?
If for the money you fucked yourself!
There are easier jobs that pay more without getting stabbed or shot at!! If you make a split second error you become news, BAD NEWS!
Years ago Cops held a position of honor and pride among those they protected; hell they were liked by all (except the thugs).
Reality check: Now days it is sad that no one seems to care about cops UNLESS cops are saving their ass!
It’s not the old days anymore, (no more street justice)! If someone is videoing you, fuck it…who cares…ignore them…you know how to do the job right so just do it right. Don’t give them what they want for “film at 11”
What the hell happened between then and now?
I will tell you…
PUBLIC INFIGHTING AND BAD COPS! Only you can fix that.
Every one of you is a Knight doing battle. You have to fight almost every minute of every day.
All that comes with the job and you knew it when you signed on. (The only time a cop should complain is when the coffee is cold and the donut is stale.)
The rest of the bullshit can be taken care of at the voting booth. Whatever happens after the vote, suck it up because you took on the job to protect and serve!
Or quit and go find that big money job!
May Gods peace be with you and protect you all!
7/01/2012 09:45:00 PM
Great post. Thanks.
I could envision something like this going down:
Well yeah we know that you all think that you should get like 10% per year COLA raises. But here...here's 2% instead because I'm a nice guy really. See you screwed up on the 28.1 thingy and to be honest we don't have to give you anything at all because of that. So just take the deal and run along and be happy..
Don't know if that will happen but it wouldn't surprise me if it did.
Time will tell and that's the danger about letting things just drag on in limbo. The don't worry we'll get a retro check like the last time is not guaranteed and once the time is gone you never-ever can get the time you spent back. Never.
To the 3rd watch Sgt. in 011.
Adam, you and Jeff are the reasons I never went to that watch after coming back. You make us old timers look like fools with your "holier than thou" bullshit. Enjoy whatever delusional grandeur you've created in your head. You both have been told over the years to have a change in attitude but your thick heads won't let you. Enjoy the bricks that have been placed on both of your careers.
Adam, you never have, nor ever will be the police. You are a frustrated egotistical fool that endangers all the good coppers on your watch! You never fooled me since the day you pimp walked into 011 as a new Sgt.
Fact from the knowledge of a Wheel gun Cop....for every cop who says he isn't doing nothing from now on, there is five hair gels with a polishing knob kit running up the numbers...FACT
5.. try 25 hairgels.
"...The "money's just not there" mantra can go fuck itself since the "money seems to be there" whenever they wanna purchase votes from their connected friends."
There better be no givebacks in this contract.
7/01/2012 10:32:00 AM
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Amen.
The money was there to give out $100 million dollar corporate tax breaks though.
Imagine if you ran your personal finances like the city. It would work something like this:
You get paid and then like the city gives back it's income in the form of a tax break, you give half of your paycheck back to your employer because he's the one that gave you a job.
Then you run to the bank and tell them your broke can't pay the credit cards, the mortgage or the car loan so they must cut your bills for you or... on the other hand they can give you another credit card so that you can use that card to pay off all the other bills for awhile.
Is that not what the city does with these corporate tax breaks -- Give away their income and then claim their broke.
Where does it end.
When the $100 million dollar corporate tax break runs out the corporation will be right back for more because it worked the last time around and CEO's continue to do what works until it doesn't anymore.
Funny how the political jackazzes run around calling this place a "World Class City" too isn't it?
Let me ask you something.
If we have all these things, attributes, that you just can't find anyplace else that make us a World Class City what does it mean if no corporation values any of it?
What I mean is if we were truly a World Class City we would reply to corporations begging for tax break corporate welfare "have a nice trip" Hoss when they threatened to take their business elsewhere.
You want to leave and give up this World Class Culture. The Theaters, the parks, the fine dining, the fest's, the diversity, the access to transportation, trade shows? Have at it. Leave. Call their bluff.
If those so-called World Class City attributes carried any value at all they would mean something to these corporation and they obviously do not.
The politicians know it's an illusion so they give into the extortion threats and negotiate with the corporate terrorist and guess what?
It doesn't take them three years to come up with an agreement either.
All that corporate tax break money should of been spent on making this place a real world class city. Whether that means wider highways, better roads, electric grid, whatever. Invested in our infrastructure that would in fact make this place irresistible to ALL corporations. Instead it's paid out to individual friends that give campaign contributions in return -- extortion money as we're threatened.
Think about it. What is our long term return on investment by handing out these corporate tax breaks? They'll be coming back for more when these expire and do we just keep doing it?
I say the time for a change is well past do and I ain't talking about no Obama-like change either. We tried that and it didn't work.
Anonymous said...
Fact from the knowledge of a Wheel gun Cop....for every cop who says he isn't doing nothing from now on, there is five hair gels with a polishing knob kit running up the numbers...FACT
7/01/2012 09:50:00 PM
You are a stroke! FACT!!!!
Move on to that do nothing retirement job and remember those glory days in your past. Im sure there will be a cape on your back and crowds cheering for you also. Thanks for you service. Dont let your bitterness make others in this proud profession look like nothing but lazy, undeserving jag offs.
Anonymous said...
Hey 20 and out. STFU!!!!! Obviously you are one of those loner types that has no family, friends and just live for this job. There is live outside this job.
Anonymous, you must be the dumbest fucking person alive. My post was in response to a post by a sergeant. try reading it again you fucking goof, it's the 6th comment from the top. I really hope you were drunk when you posted your comment.
If this is gonna make you a dog so be it, but why don't you quit posting it, there are guys out here still working not abusing the medical. Genius you want the public to respect us FYI They read this blog and a lot of You guys sound like babies. I know were getting Fucked but we can make the public aware without losing the respect of the civilians on our side. What really makes.me laugh you think your hurting the bosses or mayor by being a dog. News flash your not important enough. You are only fucking your fellow workers and the real victims. 013 district. 19 yrs on
7/01/2012 10:08:00 AM
Civilian on your side here. Just want to say that 13 has some great beat, rapid response and CAPS officers. My beat has two of the best, but I won't name them for fear some cynical cop on here thinks they wrote the post and writes some bs. So instead, I'll say, SPNA knows we are lucky to have you!
Sergeant's said...
The "city" has told the sergeant's they would like to have the contact settled by labor day.
7/01/2012 12:17:00 AM
Labor Day of what year? Details, details.
Did someone say retro checks? Hell, I am going down to the credit union to see about my Retro-Pay Anticipation Loan and see how much I am good for.
That will be the surest sign of what we can actually expect. I will let you all know if the folks at the credit union laugh and guffaw loudly in my face. Yesiree, I want my Retro Anticipation Loan, like last time.
Anonymous said...
3 more years and I'm done.
7/01/2012 07:08:00 PM
3 months for me.
Westside Outside "Do Something" said...
Anonymous said...
Fact from the knowledge of a Wheel gun Cop....for every cop who says he isn't doing nothing from now on, there is five hair gels with a polishing knob kit running up the numbers...FACT
7/01/2012 09:50:00 PM
You are a stroke! FACT!!!!
Move on to that do nothing retirement job and remember those glory days in your past. Im sure there will be a cape on your back and crowds cheering for you also. Thanks for you service. Dont let your bitterness make others in this proud profession look like nothing but lazy, undeserving jag offs.
7/02/2012 01:03:00 AM
Where is that do nothing retirement job? I need me one of those. I'm getting old, tired and my back hurts.
I need a retirement job where I can still have the occasional cigar. Fucking PC pukes are making everything enjoyable illegal.
I know where about $15 million dollars of city money went that should of either gone into the pensions or used to put more officers on the streets or for promotions and raises!
The $15 million dollars went into the settlement fund for 900 war protestors civil rights violations because the CPD blindly followed the orders in their chain of command to inflate someone's clouted ego.
That's what happens when you play the "professional courtesy" look the other way game. It affects all of us.
7/01/2012 10:27:00 PM
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Oh, hooray; Occupy is still here and still posting on our blog.
Anonymous said...
Just leave it as it is. Every contract gets worse. No raise, no increase in medical payment, because any raise always gets taken back with a raise in other costs.
7/01/2012 08:14:00 AM
I agree to leaving the contract as is, otherwise it's going to the chopping block. I don't know if I have the confidence in FOP to go to bat for us and really get down and dirty with Emmanuel...or if they'll just crumble and say ok to whatever this guy throws our way. I could care less about a raise or any other little bone that could be thrown at us....the tradeoff will not be worth it. Right now what we have is still good.
Rahm needs a forensic audit , flower boxes , wrought iron fences,hired truck , meter deal , milineum park and restaurants in the park , oh yeah
when will blago , mendrano , moreno start talkin?
sergeants ain't givin back shit
sgts are the backbone of cpd , finally running watches , always did the work for merit captains .
xo's gone through attrition , straight 3rd watch , thanks to mlas one way doneil
I'm a Sgt and just heard today that while in the preliminary stages the city wants to offer us a 5 year contract with no money for the first 4 years but 12 percent in the last year, along with 10 paid holidays, still maintaining our 45 mins a day, duty availability and a 20.00 increase in medical coverage cost.along with the same uniform allowance. Seems like Rahm wants to distance us from the P/o's so as to make us do our jobs as sgts, and not act like the officers pals.
"If you poll every member of this job as to an influence in their life leading them to take this job, I would bet an astronomical number of folks actually had/have family on the job."
Sorry when I came on 22years ago the economy sucked. Myself& many of my counterparts took this job for the security of a steady paycheck. My only family on the job was a cousin who came on in 82 when we were in a midst of a recession. So the burning desire was fueled by economics, nothing more.
Yep saw them smearing the cops on MSM at 5.. SAYING how well they are teaching the NEW recruits to talk to the people..to get respect.. bet that will last a week till they figure out they aren't being heard talking nice..depends on where they assign them..
I'm a Sgt and just heard today that while in the preliminary stages the city wants to offer us a 5 year contract with no money for the first 4 years but 12 percent in the last year, along with 10 paid holidays, still maintaining our 45 mins a day, duty availability and a 20.00 increase in medical coverage cost.along with the same uniform allowance. Seems like Rahm wants to distance us from the P/o's so as to make us do our jobs as sgts, and not act like the officers pals.
7/02/2012 07:32:00 PM
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What Rahm wants to do is screw you like he screwed the teachers, in the last year of their contract. Raise? What raise?
IF he's still even here by then, which means he would be leaving the NEXT mayor holding the bag for the back-loaded, so-called 'contract' he foisted off on you.
(Retired sgt here, looking at the job through the rear window of a fast-moving car, exiting Chicago.)
I'm a Sgt and just heard today that while in the preliminary stages the city wants to offer us a 5 year contract with no .....
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
WHY END THE 30MIN ALREADY AND SAVE MILLIONS
B.S. That you need the 30min to do what???????
Hey Fed Up Sgt.... Go to hell you ass kissing merit piece of shit!
!!!!AMEN Save the city some money
cut the supervisor perks
FOP Board has rescheduled its July 3 meeting to the 12th of July. Is it because Shields and Dougherty don't want to answer questions about 28.1 and its effect on the next contract ?
Officers need to show up at FOP and ask the questions FOP hasn't answered.
>>>WHY END THE 30MIN ALREADY AND SAVE MILLIONS
B.S. That you need the 30min to do what???????
7/03/2012 02:49:00 AM<<<
Like correcting reports, solving problems, doing all kinds of things and assisting in getting the oncoming watch up on what hapened. There are a lot of things that have to be done by a sergeant while you are in you own car on the way home. It is also something the rank has earned. Why don't you study hard and take the test, if they ever give one again.
And if they take that away, what's next?
Good luck with the negotiations, guys. We retired military members are preparing to get screwed by Rahm's former leash-holder. The administration wants to treat the medical care we earned over 20 years as some sort of social welfare benefit and raise our costs anywhere from 9% to 345%, depending on our rank at retirement. If they can break faith with us....
ECS
When you call a 10-1, you'd better have some pals.
Why is it bad to have come on the job because you were influenced to come on by relatives on the job?
Anyone who advocates that's any benefits sh.ould be taken away (45 minutes, ability to sell back time or whatever) better watch what they wish for. It may be someone else losing something now, but it will be YOU later on.
It's a divide and conquer strategy.
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