School Strike Coming
The long-awaited fact-finder’s recommendation on how to solve “toxic’’ Chicago teacher contract talks was finally made public Wednesday — but nobody wanted it.
Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s handpicked school board and hundreds of Chicago Teachers Union delegates both, unanimously, rejected the recommendations of a fact-finder both sides had picked to help resolve their stalemate.
School board president David Vitale said the cash-strapped district just didn’t have the money to pay recommended raises next year of 15 to 18 percent, totaling some $330 million. CPS had offered four years of two percent raises.
Though the fact-finder had recommended a fat pay hike for teachers ordered to work 20 percent more next year, Chicago Teachers Union delegates didn’t like his dismissal of their concerns about job security. They said they fear the district’s growing use of “turnarounds” and school closings that displace good teachers through no fault of their own.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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Exactly, CPD and CFD will be the sacrificial lambs.
FOP is lost on this contract.
Pay close attention boys and girls!
oh but he'll lose in other ways if he makes enemies of first responders.
You can say what you want about teachers but at least they stick together. Unlike the police.
To bad that the FOP doesn't have a real union boss like Karen Lewis.
We can't strike, but the thugs on the street do our work for us when they strike out at the public and clueless Rahm and his New York stooge do nothing to stop it but try to screw with the cops.
I guess it's Karen Lewis's turn to tell Rahm, "Fuck You Emmanuel."
Payback is a bitch!
"So Rahm completely united the teachers into a force that just may derail his national ambitions."
Next to the large, front page photo of the Cubs' guy's stalker story, the Scum Times says "Rahm Got Schooled"!
I hope they are on strike for a month(at least) and the teachers shove it right up this little weasel's punk-ass. I can't believe that the arbitraitor was the same guy we had.
Unity!
The teachers gonna get paid.
"...neither of our bargaining units can strike."
Fortunately we have other ways to drive the message home.
FOP endorsed Rahm and look what it got us.
CTU endorsed Chico and stands 100% UNITED!
APATHY by FOP members and bad FOP leadership have ruined everything.
And what will C.P.D. learn from this? NOTHING. We will still crap all over each other for a stupid honerable mention. We will not stick together as usual.
Isn't Mr. Benn the arbiter used between CPD & the city in the past?
I know he did right by us several contracts ago, but his more recent decisions weren't too great for us.
Well I guess that Noodles will just have to raise taxes then...except then there's this:
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"Special tax revenue declines, denting city funds"
By Hal Dardick, Chicago Tribune reporter
8:30 p.m. CDT, July 18, 2012
"Falling property values have triggered a drop in property tax collections within the city's controversial special taxing districts that aim to generate money for economic development, Cook County Clerk David Orr said Wednesday."
"Revenue in the city's 163 tax increment financing districts will drop by $56 million to $454 million, Orr said as he released his annual report on TIF districts. In nine districts that poured millions of dollars into city coffers just last year, nary a penny will be collected this year, he said."
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(( what kind of scam is this where you have nine TIF districts that you will not get a single penny from in tax revenue?? Is this where all the political clouted families live that pay no taxes?? The story continues...))
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"These dramatic declines raise critical questions" about financing economic development, Orr said. But city officials downplayed those concerns, saying they have been careful in estimating revenue and making spending plans.
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(( When the city claims to have carefully estimated this future tax revenue we wonder if they use the same assumptions that they used for our pensions --- that the pensions will be earning 8% a year on avg. hahaha good luck with that! But hey, you'll have a $29 million park thanks to Noodles. Just don't plan on camping out there if you are on the reduction of staff list and lose your home))
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Orr pointed to the LaSalle Central TIF District in the Loop, which will bring in no property tax revenue this year despite generating $20 million just two years ago. Mayor Rahm Emanuel recently committed $29 million from that district to help pay for a new riverfront park to complement a high-rise development, Orr said.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-tif-report-0719-20120719,0,4786338.story
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A TIF district going from $20 million to zero oh that's special. Not to mention all those homes in the bankruptcy/foreclosure pipeline STILL.
Don't look at the police, fire, teachers on the streets. Oh-no, look at the pretty park his hindness has given you. Pretty ain't it. So pretty. So, so pretty. $29 mmil!!!
Run away Rahm, run away.
R.I.P Officer Nicole Bostic-Jones
Cook County correctional officer killed in hit-and-run incident
7/19/12 0:24
By: LEEANN SHELTON AND HUNTER CLAUSS Staff Reporters
A Cook County sheriff’s correctional officer died after a hit-and-run incident Wednesday night outside the county jail, officials said.
The woman was struck about 10:50 p.m. while she was crossing the street in the 2900 block of South California, police News Affairs Officer Ron Gaines said.
She was hit by a full-sized gray van, possibly a Chevrolet with white and blue stripes, said Cook County sheriff’s office spokesman Frank Bilecki. The officer became pinned under another vehicle and the van sped off.
She was taken in critical condition to Mount Sinai Hospital where she later died, officials said.
A small group of employees at the jail gathered near the scene.
One woman emerged from a car and asked, “She didn’t make it, did she?”
Karen Lewis is a fighter. Wish she had been head of CTU when I was there.Maybe she would be a good replacement for Mr. Shields.
Yeah useless mayor and city council.
Here we are just about four weeks away from school opening up and not a single revenue generating school zone speed trap camera install yet. Not a one that I'm aware of.
Isn't that something. With this crisis and all.
However there's no crisis in helping out the corporation building that condo downtown with the $29 million dollar park that the politicians are praying will raise property values and therefore the property taxes.
Then again to make that happen one would think that you have to do something about this Chiraq image that the leaders are showcasing.
Fantastic I love it!
Sun Times columnist Mark Brown is suggesting that the CPD Federal CW/mole maybe the hardest hitting mole since Christopher and Silver Shovel.
Admitted fact that a former Alderman was offered $10K to provide a promotion on the CPD. The offer was unfortunately declined.
The copper was pinched for guns and extortion in July 2008.
Let's hope he is as good as Mark Brown claims, this could be a good, much needed house cleaning.
None of this gang crap is mcarthys fault. You can't make an animal behave like a human being.
Not sure why the teachers rejected the arbitrator's decision. Unless I miss read, it seemed to be pretty much in favor of the teachers.
Not a time to get greedy.
Oh man-o-man. You see the problem with this arbitrator right here don't ya....
"She also said that there are major flaws in Benn's report — starting with his findings on the effects of a proposed longer school day, which she called “shocking” because she says he wasn't authorized to study the issue.
“He's supposed to look at salaries nationally, what the current fiscal situation is and what teachers have gotten in the past,” Carroll said.'
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-chicago-schools-ceo-criticizes-recommendation-on-teacher-raises-20120718,0,1345686.story
In other words -- HE WAS SUPPOSE TO BE LOOKING OVER HERE NOT OVER THERE!! NOW WHO AUTHORIZE HIM TO LOOK OVER THERE AT THAT STUFF!
Shocking, just shocking. You look where we tell you to look.
Off topic but, 8 Sgts. have been pulled from 019 and sent to 012, 013, 014, Also, 5 or 6 sgts pulled from 002 and sent to 005! effective change day..
OT: R.I.P. Cook County jail guard killed by a hit and run driver while heading into work at the jail 18July2012 around 2300 hours. Horrible scene with a C.C.S.P. Officer also being accidentily involved. Prayers for the families of both Officers....
Must be nice to be able to strike. Oh wait...that's right we get a unbiased arbitrator to decide on our contract if we don't agree with the city terms.
OT- In 019, the dumping order is out, many sgts are gone!!!AGAIN.
Heard 75-100 blue shirts are next to be launched from 019. Funny to see the dumped sgts scrambling around in disbelief of their new assignments. Seniority has its priveliges, everyone else are in jeopardy of a big change. Enjoy the ride.
Lets hope the teachers Of RACCOON CITY, Illinois strike and strike hard against this goof. He has egg all over his face and he is finally getting his just deserts. The teachers and all city workers hate him, crime is through the roof, people are fleeing Chicago in droves,taxes are sky high, he has control of the media, but citizens who voted him in are now hip to what a jagoof they put in. This is going to be good. Arrogance equals ignorance and Obbamma will suffer defeat just by knowing the mayor of RACCOON CITY.
HAHAHA!!! The rahmster has been pinning all of hopes of publically embarrassing the CTU on the arbitrators report. He missed it by thaaat much! HAHAHA!!!! My wife is a teacher, she puts up with same shit we do, but she isnt armed. F' the rahmster and his puppet JC brizzard...
Do NOT hire benn!!!
Rahm vastly underestimated how tired municipal employees are of his bullshit antics.
People are tired of this liberal, tax grabbing bastard.
Rahm, the taxpayers and the kids win if he fires all of the school teachers and makes them reapply if they want to teach and their pay increases will be based solely on the change in performance of the kids. If a teacher doesn't like it they are free to look for work elsewhere.
the public and arbitrators ARE CATCHING ONTO RAHMS POOR MOUTH GAME!
now all city employees need to unite and stand with the teachers.
Nation of Islam to get 5 million along with Ceasefie to do the work of McCarthy.
CONTRACTS THAT HAVE A -NO STRIKE CLAUSE- in the end are contracts with no teeth. We can only make agreements, BUT the city Can and Will force us to do what they want. WE cant do that, we can only "trade" this for that.
The teachers will not strike. They will get a raise higher then what the mayor wanted to give them, but they will settle. If they force the high raise as outlined in the report, over 4000 teachers will be laid off and the union does not want that. Property taxes will go up in the city.
Anonymous said...
Sun Times columnist Mark Brown is suggesting that the CPD Federal CW/mole maybe the hardest hitting mole since Christopher and Silver Shovel.
Admitted fact that a former Alderman was offered $10K to provide a promotion on the CPD. The offer was unfortunately declined.
The copper was pinched for guns and extortion in July 2008.
Let's hope he is as good as Mark Brown claims, this could be a good, much needed house cleaning.
7/19/2012 01:27:00 AM
Is this JT's old partner? I am dying to know. I hope he takes down 100's of crooked pols.
Teachers stick together thats why at the end of the day, they will get paid. Sure, they will strike for a month or so but rahm wont let it go any further because these animals will kill e
ach other all day everyday so he better put em in school for safety sake cause they sure aint learning anything. This shows what unity can do. As bad as the city treats us some officers still write movers,parkers,contact cards etc??? why? they deny our time, cancel off days, want to take away everything but some super cops still want to play police and fill up a humper! lets stick together and strike activity wise. Stop it all. Stay safe, go home and 1 and 16th....
SCC, do you really think he has NATIONAL aspirations for some office? He was pushed out of Washington because nobody liked him, especially Michelle, now he took a job that really is a national embarrassment because what else could he do? I think the country can see what kind of person rahm is, and only if Obama gets re-elected will he get another chance for some irrelevant position. The country is not like Chicago, narrow minded views shaped by crooks.
Not sure why the teachers rejected the arbitrator's decision. Unless I miss read, it seemed to be pretty much in favor of the teachers.
Not a time to get greedy.
7/19/2012 01:54:00 AM
The teachers rejected it because it gives them no working rights and does not change the evaluation system for teachers by vindictive principals. The teachers are not rejecting it due to an issue with the money the fact finder found, the CPS is rejecting it claiming they do not have the money.
Now, my problem is that this persons job is a "fact" finder, and the FACT is he found money that CPS should use for raises- CPS again refused they have it??? Sounds like someone turned the light on city finances, and the rahm is nervouse that his "we are poor" routine to bust all of our unions is in jeopardy!
If the teachers and CPS agreed on this, there is no solid verbage in the contract so that would mean next year, CPS would again have to lay-off 4,000 teachers (in retaliation) for exposing the fact that the city does have money. but it is only to be used for rahms buddies!
Can we get photo of Mike Sheilds balls and a photo of Karen Lewis' balls placed side by side in a post ? I'm curious to see who's is bigger.
dogass copper said.
I haven't heard a single complaint from the Sergeants that are being moved, dogass copper. Glad you find humor in the city screwing over fellow officer's and not following the contract. Sgts. were assigned to another unit NOT by guidlines set forth in the contact. What would stop the City from doing the same to you dogass? Nothing. keep laughing, you make me sick.
Arbitrator Benn must be sick of these crooks saying they don't have any money in good times, or in recession. Every contract they cry poor to him. He favored them last time around, but maybe he will see the smoke and mirrors this time around. Rahm kicked the hornets nest and is getting stung on the balls by teachers. Love it!!
"FOP endorsed Rahm and look what it got us"
7/19/2012 12:22:00 AM
"Isn't Mr. Benn the arbiter used between CPD & the city in the past?
I know he did right by us several contracts ago"
7/19/2012 12:43:00 AM
"None of this gang crap is mcarthys fault"
7/19/2012 01:29:00 AM
SCC, where do you find these people?
Off topic but, 8 Sgts. have been pulled from 019 and sent to 012, 013, 014, Also, 5 or 6 sgts pulled from 002 and sent to 005! effective change day..
7/19/2012 02:56:00 AM
OMG People!!!!
From 019 to 012/013!!!!
This injustice will not stand. No more lunches at Wishbone on Lincoln Ave, I guess we'll just go to Wishbone on Washington Blvd instead. I need a caffe latte.
The horror....the horror....
Anonymous said...
Off topic but, 8 Sgts. have been pulled from 019 and sent to 012, 013, 014, Also, 5 or 6 sgts pulled from 002 and sent to 005! effective change day..
7/19/2012 02:56:00 AM
dogass copper said...
Heard 75-100 blue shirts are next to be launched from 019. Funny to see the dumped sgts scrambling around in disbelief of their new assignments. Seniority has its priveliges, everyone else are in jeopardy of a big change. Enjoy the ride.
7/19/2012 05:00:00 AM
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Oh boy, what a ride...012, 013, 014?? WTF! Give us Northside coppers stuck in the Southside a ride like that too.
Who gives a shit...
At least they aren't being sent all over the place like the Dics.
12, 13, 14, WHOA.. That's terrible. Be glad you aren't being sent to that shit hole 10 or 7 or 3.
Get the picture moron.
The time is coming that the FOP has to act and rally the membership.
Emanuel is taking illegal and aggressive action against us. It is time that we act as he is doing.
The FOP can get the troops united around a common cause if they start now. Start hitting the mayor and the city council harder.
Fuck the media. They will not be on our side. Fuck the aldermen.
We have to care for our selves, because no one else will. The FOP needs to demonstrate more fully AND loudly that it cares for the membership, even if it means that everyone gets sick at the same time. That flu virus can be a nasty and contagious thing.
Anonymous said...
I hope they are on strike for a month(at least) and the teachers shove it right up this little weasel's punk-ass. I can't believe that the arbitraitor was the same guy we had.
7/19/2012 12:19:00 AM
That's for sure! Daley somehow was able to get into his pocket on our last contract.
Dear officers of the CPD, I understand that uniformed members of your department extended a courtesy to my CCDOC sister in blue who was struck by a hit-and-run driver last night, escorting her to the hospital and later to the morgue following her death. This is a very touching and classy display. As a correctional officer, I would just like to say thank you.
The department arbitrarily " reassigning" Sgts from 002 to 005. I'd be very concerned because if they move them they way the did, patrol officers could be next. The kicker, is that if you were " assigned" to your district say out of the academy - the city is saying you did not bid there and thus are subject to being moved. You are only considered a district BID if you bid in from another district. So in reality you could come out of tge academy, be assigned to your district for 10 years, and a person who bid in last month is safe - you are not ?? I guess if and when any openings are posted to your district - the people already assigned there better put in a bid for a district they are already in ?
Also, they used reverse seniority but then exempted tact, CAPS, and detailed out Sgts. So Sgts with less seniority in these spots got saved. ( not to mention 002 has two CAPS sgts - one with little time who got saved because she's in CAPS).
Some people are going to post F*** the Sgts, but if they did it to them, you can bet the PO's will be next. If you never actually BID but were merely " assigned" you could be screwed.
Same in 019. But atleast some went to decent districts (012) not a pit like 005.
Heard 75-100 blue shirts are next to be launched from 019. Funny to see the dumped sgts scrambling around in disbelief of their new assignments. Seniority has its priveliges, everyone else are in jeopardy of a big change. Enjoy the ride.
7/19/2012 05:00:00 AM
Well your right about seniority having privileges but don't be so smug, the bent the rules on seniority in grabbing Sgts - many with lower seniority "exempted" only to grab Sgts with more seniority. Beware ...
school strike,the teachers are dumber then the kids,watch the irish stationary engs, scab like they did before,
the copper mole worked in 022,bet on it.
lewis for FOP president!bad news is...we re gonna get leftover scraps. i say 0 0 2 2 pay raise. the CFD will get squeezed too.
I have a solution.
If you make over $125,000 your salary is hearby decreased to $110,000 effective immediatly.
If you make over $90,000 your salary is hearby decreased to $78,000.
City. County. State. Federal. NAFTA. NATO. Everyone.
That would get high earners off the govt dime.
America
Who is this goof that keeps wanting speed cameras installed by now? GFY!
dogass copper said...
Heard 75-100 blue shirts are next to be launched from 019. Funny to see the dumped sgts scrambling around in disbelief of their new assignments. Seniority has its priveliges, everyone else are in jeopardy of a big change. Enjoy the ride.
7/19/2012 05:00:00 AM
You forgot to throw in "including P.O.'s who are detailed out of 019." I mean, your whole intent is to make a particular P.O. nervous, isn't it? Guess what? It's not working.
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Anonymous said... None of this gang crap is mcarthys fault. You can't make an animal behave like a human being.
7/19/2012 01:29:00 AM
Incorrect sir, inaction and general incompetence on Mc Whiskeys part make him at fault as much as the Racoon Mayor. "Government sponsored racism" and the whole "Pilgrim" analogy make McWhiskey generally useless and absolutely at fault.
Well they can start with the useless Entertainment detail here in 019. They don't take jobs on Clark street anyways Wrigleyville, cubs games, what the fuck do they do?
Fuck you all I got my secure spot on the Mayor's Detail. Nobody wanted it when they were looking and now Im untouchable, sorry your getting dumped but hey I put in for this sweet spot not you.....
Every law enforcement officer should be looking for the van of animal that ran down the County Jail Guard and drove off. May God bless her family, and keep her in his grace. RIP Officer Bostic-Jones.
Off topic but, 8 Sgts. have been pulled from 019 and sent to 012, 013, 014, Also, 5 or 6 sgts pulled from 002 and sent to 005! effective change day..
7/19/2012 02:56:00 AM
Welcome to the "Fighting 013th" --for about four months -- then it's off to the "New 012th" at 14th and Blue Island.
Karen Lewis will get it stuck right up the teachers ass. Or the Taxpayer will get it stuck up thiers. Either way we loose. They get a big raise for what they turn out of those schools is a pathetic joke. more than half the teachers are ill-educated and only speak ghetto english. Please don't link us with those knucklefucks
God bless them,its an important ambition,for those who value doing something with their lives,they are needed,believe this Rham will not sit down with any type of reasonable contract for a year with us,the police,,because he can,the teachers ain't playing and neither should we!!
(OT) keep working hard,paying high taxes and shit like this happens??
http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/19/usda-partnering-with-mexico-to-boost-food-stamp-participation/
I would vote for Karen Lewis to fight for our contract,shes got big ovaries than Micheal Shields!
A TIF district going from $20 million to zero oh that's special. Not to mention all those homes in the bankruptcy/foreclosure pipeline STILL.
Don't look at the police, fire, teachers on the streets. Oh-no, look at the pretty park his hindness has given you. Pretty ain't it. So pretty. So, so pretty. $29 mmil!!!
7/19/2012 12:44:00 AM
Go by 6300 S. cicero, had businesses making money, paying high taxes, city forces them out, now is building a PARK, nice so you can get hit on 63st and on cicero right in the middle of a deadly intersection smart thinking rahms crew! Another waste of taxpayers money!
Any word on OUR Contract!?!?!?
Can we get photo of Mike Sheilds balls and a photo of Karen Lewis' balls placed side by side in a post ? I'm curious to see who's is bigger.
7/19/2012 10:30:00 AM
Pea-sized brain of Shields will be found more easily.
The FOP can get the troops united around a common cause if they start now. Start hitting the mayor and the city council harder.
Fuck the media. They will not be on our side. Fuck the aldermen.
We have to care for our selves, because no one else will. The FOP needs to demonstrate more fully AND loudly that it cares for the membership, even if it means that everyone gets sick at the same time. That flu virus can be a nasty and contagious thing.
7/19/2012 11:51:00 AM
PROBLEM: FOP does not care for the membership. The membership is big PITA! Calling, Asking, blah, blah, blah. Even with the door locked they just keeping coming in and calling! This would be a good job except for those pesky members!
Not a cop. Please don't get hung up on "well that group is in a union, so we should blindingly support them". In general, I am anti-union because they reward the idiots at the cost of taxpayers. However, most of the population will support cops because the police have a chance of getting killed on any day helping the public. However, in big cities, there are too many teachers, who can't teach. In Chicago the drop out rate is huge and test scores are horrible. Yes, parents are too blame as well.
Why not pay teachers based on merit (improving kids test scores), fire the ones whose kids don't improve and allow parents to send kids to the schools of their choice as long as their kids follow the rules and do well?
Anyone who thinks the Chicago school system does not have huge issues is delusional. And throwing more money at the problem will not help...and it has not help over the last 50 years.
The Evil Racoon WANTS a teachers strike. Why? Who the fuck knows. It just plays into his crazed idea of keeping everyone who works for the city off balance and working against each other. Why would he care. This little jagoff has over $20 million he stole as a "financial banker" sitting in banks collecting interest. He also stole a lot when he was on the Fredie Mac board as an "advisor".
"Anonymous said...
Well they can start with the useless Entertainment detail here in 019. They don't take jobs on Clark street anyways Wrigleyville, cubs games, what the fuck do they do?"
Just let it go dude. Sorry they didn't ask you. That detail is going away anyways. They are going back to bt cars.
We need to get the union contracts done BEFORE any of these revenue generating activities such as the school zone speed trap cameras are installed because if the unions see that money coming in they will want a piece of it....and we need that money for all our clouted friends.
Also, a teacher strike will enable the city to "save". Saving is good! Who doesn't like saving? Saving shows that you're responsible. The word save conjures up all sorts of positive images in the minds of the people. /sarcasm
Anonymous said...
You can say what you want about teachers but at least they stick together. Unlike the police.
7/19/2012 12:11:00 AM
Amen to that. You could never get over 90% of police to agree on anything.
Why not pay teachers based on merit (improving kids test scores)
Because that was tried. And a good number of teachers and admins were caught cooking the numbers. Or giving students multiple chances on the test. Or showing them wrong answers and giving them the tests back.
Because the students in the CPS are not cut from the same material as kids from the suburbs. No matter how much money you throw at them, they will not perform and achieve to the same level.
In the suburbs, mom and dad both care about how their child performs in school. And how he/she behaves.
In the city, mom doesn't care and neither does daddy, whoever/wherever he may be.
As for the fight with the CTU, looks like Rahm punched the hornets' nest.
Anonymous said...
Fuck you all I got my secure spot on the Mayor's Detail. Nobody wanted it when they were looking and now Im untouchable, sorry your getting dumped but hey I put in for this sweet spot not you.....
7/19/2012 01:57:00 PM
You're joking, right?
Anonymous said...
the copper mole worked in 022,bet on it.
7/19/2012 12:25:00 PM
Richard Doroniuk and Mahmoud Shamah already pled out. Unless there is someone else dirty in 022.
Anonymous said...
Not a cop. Please don't get hung up on "well that group is in a union, so we should blindingly support them". In general, I am anti-union because they reward the idiots at the cost of taxpayers. However, most of the population will support cops because the police have a chance of getting killed on any day helping the public. However, in big cities, there are too many teachers, who can't teach. In Chicago the drop out rate is huge and test scores are horrible. Yes, parents are too blame as well.
Why not pay teachers based on merit (improving kids test scores), fire the ones whose kids don't improve and allow parents to send kids to the schools of their choice as long as their kids follow the rules and do well?
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And you think that CPS teachers are not at risk of being killed on the job? There's over 100,000 gang members in this town!!
"Why not pay teachers based on merit"
If the merit scores from a teacher showed positive year after year it's just a simple matter of flooding that classroom with more illegal immigrant students until the test scores decline or for the teacher to find a way to kick or frustrate the non-performers out of the class.
There should be accountability but I don't think it's as simple as looking at a test score.
Anonymous said...
Who is this goof that keeps wanting speed cameras installed by now? GFY!
7/19/2012 01:20:00 PM
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Really?
Hey Rahm see that? GFY!
Anonymous said...
Who gives a shit...
At least they aren't being sent all over the place like the Dics.
12, 13, 14, WHOA.. That's terrible. Be glad you aren't being sent to that shit hole 10 or 7 or 3.
Get the picture moron.
7/19/2012 11:45:00 AM
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Yeah, the dicks got fucked too but they're on 10 hour days and you don't hear them complaining much. That's the best thing going in this dept.
Why not pay teachers based on merit (improving kids test scores), fire the ones whose kids don't improve and allow parents to send kids to the schools of their choice as long as their kids follow the rules and do well?
Anyone who thinks the Chicago school system does not have huge issues is delusional. And throwing more money at the problem will not help...and it has not help over the last 50 years.
7/19/2012 03:46:00 PM
Well, why not pay cops the same way? Where's your numbers, kid? Shootings on your beat? No raise for you! Stop singing Rahm's songs, would you!
Why not pay teachers based on merit (improving kids test scores), fire the ones whose kids don't improve and allow parents to send kids to the schools of their choice as long as their kids follow the rules and do well?
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I'll tell you what, genius. I'll give you those inner city ghetto dweller kids from fucked up homes and coming to class with foul mouths, violence and no desire to learn, stack them in your class while telling you that you need to teach them longer for no compensation and then tell you that you'll get no raise and could be fired if they don't improve.
You want that deal? Yeah, I didn't fucking think so, tough guy. Get fucking real. At least we get to lock them up and leave. The teachers are stuck with those animals for the whole day and have to look at them again for the rest of the year.
It's assholes like you with no concept of what those teachers have to put up with, the same as assholes who have no idea what cops have to put up with, that are always coming up with bullshit ideas. You play too easily into Rahm's hands. Stick to beating off in your mom's basement. And while you're at it, go get your fucking shine box.
You forgot to throw in "including P.O.'s who are detailed out of 019." I mean, your whole intent is to make a particular P.O. nervous, isn't it? Guess what? It's not working.
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No you will be gone as well!
I don't know about you guys, but don't you think 12th district is a much better place the. 19/23 district. Just saying....
This strike will really help Obama get re-elected. Obama's former Chief of Staff attempting to break unionized labor in Chicago. DemocRats destroying middle class families and privatizing union jobs via Charter Schools.
Off topic but, 8 Sgts. have been pulled from 019 and sent to 012, 013, 014, Also, 5 or 6 sgts pulled from 002 and sent to 005! effective change day..
I dont think the Sgts were pulled. Im pretty sure there were bid spots open a few weeks ago in some districts.
Karen Lewis will get it stuck right up the teachers ass. Or the Taxpayer will get it stuck up thiers. Either way we loose. They get a big raise for what they turn out of those schools is a pathetic joke. more than half the teachers are ill-educated and only speak ghetto english. Please don't link us with those knucklefucks
7/19/2012 02:40:00 PM
Yeah ok. You Sir, are either a moron or are one of Rahm's wonder kid trolls, either way your a complete asshole.
We should probably hire the law firm that represents the Chicago Teachers Union. They couldn't be worse than what we have. Mike: Are you listening?
Anonymous said...
Not a cop. Please don't get hung up on "well that group is in a union, so we should blindingly support them". In general, I am anti-union because they reward the idiots at the cost of taxpayers. However, most of the population will support cops because the police have a chance of getting killed on any day helping the public. However, in big cities, there are too many teachers, who can't teach. In Chicago the drop out rate is huge and test scores are horrible. Yes, parents are too blame as well.
Why not pay teachers based on merit (improving kids test scores), fire the ones whose kids don't improve and allow parents to send kids to the schools of their choice as long as their kids follow the rules and do well?
Anyone who thinks the Chicago school system does not have huge issues is delusional. And throwing more money at the problem will not help...and it has not help over the last 50 years.
7/19/2012 03:46:00 PM
Another expert blamming the teachers for low test scores! Just once, I would love to see these so called experts try to manage a classroom full of students living in poverty and broken homes. Even homeless. The odds are stacked against the teachers but still blame them. I agree that money is tight and throwing money at CPS is not the answer. But be more objective about the teachers.
Rahm is laughing he will close schools and layoff teachers,this will happen.
I think you should work all of your days off so that you help the city save on new hires and you die younger, thereby reducing the pension impact. We all need to do our part. I'll do mine while on vacation with the family after I get the bodyguards to pull them out of the private schools.
Rahm
7/18/2012 07:17:00 PM
I'm glad he signed this, I thought it was the FOP's proposal
The Fraternal Order of Police was dead-set against the city’s decision to forge a $1 million partnership with CeaseFire, a Chicago-based anti-violence group that sends felons into the streets to mediate gang conflicts and stop shootings, but refuses to share information with the police.
But, FOP spokesman Pat Camden said the police union has no such qualms about accepting help from the Nation of Islam.
“The last time I checked, Fruit of Islam isn’t convicted felons, are they? That’s a huge difference. And they’re not getting paid by the city,” Camden said.
“Anything that will cut down on the violence because of the lack of manpower, we’re glad to see. It’s people in the community getting involved to stop the violence. He’s part of the community.”
Interesting, my union thinks that volunteer monitors are an acceptable solution to the street violence in Chicago. Is this going to cut my overtime? Further destabilize my pension? or just subject me to a greater risk of citizen complaint at crime scenes.
BTW: Oh Great Orange One: You don't have answer every reporter's call. And to "Dah Ah And Uhm President," just stay off mic.
OT.
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Chicago police sergeant convicted of slapping teen
Remember pos Judge Clayton Crane when you see his name on a ballot.
Yet morons still write parkers and movers by the dozens. If you bring 1Red Cent of Revenue into this shithole you redefine the term pussy. It's just pathetic.
Don't underestimate this Mayor.
(OT) Credit union closed down as of 1700 hours tomorrow until Monday download your info read this!
http://www.patrolmensfcu.org/filebin/pdf/webguide2.pdf
@ 7/19/2012 04:53:00 PM...
Amen! Say it louder...
The ignorant fucks that drink Rahm's ass-spray and spew it on every fucking comment board they can just don't get that people are seeing through their "hate union member muni employees for demanding a fair shake" propaganda campaign.
These nitwits don't even rate a shinebox...
A jumbo puck of Kiwi in their ass-pocket, a rag and a lighter is all these motherless fucks rate...
Fuck your shoes up and set the cuffs of your pants on fire then demand you pay them for the honor of the insult on top of the outrage because Rahm said that's how shit goes in bizarro-world.
Fucking narrow-assed, nut-bush motherfucker.
Pansies & pissants who never had a real man's cares, concerns or sorrows in life.
These assholes need for shoes to be shined on the seats of their pants.
Stop the bullshit. It ain't even funny what you jackasses are doing...
The course of correction WILL be an imperial, purple & gold bag swinging, crown wearing bitch...
May the shit be bitten out of all the right asses for all acts of fuckery in furtherance...
Off topic but, 8 Sgts. have been pulled from 019 and sent to 012, 013, 014, Also, 5 or 6 sgts pulled from 002 and sent to 005! effective change day..
I dont think the Sgts were pulled. Im pretty sure there were bid spots open a few weeks ago in some districts.
Nope. Order for bids came out and was recinded because they have to open up bids city wide. These Sgts were arbitrary " reassigned". All sgts from 002 sent to 005 against their will. Sgts from 019 split between two or three districts. No bids. And lots of sgts with more seniority got sent before " exempted Sgts = tact, CAPS and those already detailed out. PO's are next. So those in 016 and 022 be prepared to get shipped.
Anonymous said...
You can say what you want about teachers but at least they stick together. Unlike the police.
7/19/2012 12:11:00 AM
Amen to that. You could never get over 90% of police to agree on anything.
7/19/2012 04:10:00 PM
dumbasses like you two agree on anything but then again you're both most likely one person, a plant on this blog strumming the Rahm violin...yawn, scratch, burp. have a not nice next election. have fun looking for a job when Rahm loses.
"Anonymous said...
Yet morons still write parkers and movers by the dozens. If you bring 1Red Cent of Revenue into this shithole you redefine the term pussy. It's just pathetic.
7/19/2012 09:10:00 PM
..and stupid. No revenue for the city means the City has no money to give raises.
City goes broke, you are out on your ass. Then how are you going to make your mortgage payment? Your car note? Your fancy cellphone bill? Food on the table for your kids?
OT
Burglars break into Alderman Munoz's office
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48253303/ns/local_news-chicago_il/
12, 13, 14, WHOA.. That's terrible. Be glad you aren't being sent to that shit hole 10 or 7 or 3.
Get the picture moron
It's not about where they went dumb ass, it's about how it's being done. Get your head out of your ass. First it's Sgts, then it's patrolman..It's all management option and 1 arbitrator's ruling...
(OT) Credit union closed down as of 1700 hours tomorrow until Monday download your info read this!
http://www.patrolmensfcu.org/filebin/pdf/webguide2.pdf
7/19/2012 09:23:00 PM
No, the credit union is closed down NEXT weekend, not THIS weekend.
Why they would choose to do it over a paycheck weekend is a good question, though. At a time when so many people depend on being able to use and access the credit union site and tellers, etc.???
Anonymous said...
Rahm is laughing he will close schools and layoff teachers,this will happen.
7/19/2012 07:59:00 PM
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Rahm isn't laughing.
Rahm is furious.
Just before a presidential election is NOT the time to have a major workforce striking in a major American city. Especially when you are working your ass off to see the incumbent re-elected.
No, Rahm isn't laughing.
4:53 hit the nail on the head. Teachers cannot be held accountable for kids who can't/wont learn. The come to school very ill prepared to learn. The come to school tired from being up all night due to violence etc in the home. Many of these kids don't even have a bed and only sloop in a chair or on the floor. Learning begins at home and CPS teacher should not be the first teachers that these kids encounter. The parents need to take responsibility. So to the guy who thinks teachers should be paid on a merit system...you are a ignorant idiot. You have no idea what those teachers have to endure.
Rahm is fucked when Obumma loses. Obbumma is the only one on the planet that likes the Raccoon.
OT. Re the credit union. Bank at a real bank and you don't have these problems.
Anonymous said...
4:53 hit the nail on the head. Teachers cannot be held accountable for kids who can't/wont learn. The come to school very ill prepared to learn. The come to school tired from being up all night due to violence etc in the home. Many of these kids don't even have a bed and only sloop in a chair or on the floor. Learning begins at home and CPS teacher should not be the first teachers that these kids encounter. The parents need to take responsibility. So to the guy who thinks teachers should be paid on a merit system...you are a ignorant idiot. You have no idea what those teachers have to endure.
7/20/2012 02:25:00 AM
And you are making statements based on what? There is not evidence that the majority of kids who fail in school or drop out live under the condition you have outlined. All you have are a couple of war stories from a few personal experiences. Way too many of the teachers and administrators are ill prepared or do not care. That, my friend, is a documented fact from many large city school systems around the country. Throwing money at these schools has shown not to work after a certain point. The chicago public school teachers are the best paid of any major city in the country, have the lowest retirement age, the best pension and the shorted work day and work year of any school system. Let the union sponsor a study of how much time is actually put in by teachers after school hours in their " preparation". They are afraid to because the results would blow holes in their horror stories.
No, the credit union is closed down NEXT weekend, not THIS weekend.
Why they would choose to do it over a paycheck weekend is a good question, though. At a time when so many people depend on being able to use and access the credit union site and tellers, etc.???
7/20/2012 02:01:00 AM
We are not getting paid until next Wednesday unless I'm missing something or your point.
This will be a way for Rahm to push Charter schools and kill - oh, I mean "reinvent" CPS as non-union. He will turn this around to make the teachers look bad. I hope the assholes who voted for him don't buy into it.
Rahm is fucked when Obumma loses. Obbumma is the only one on the planet that likes the Raccoon.
7/20/2012 06:24:00 AM
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If you think President Obama likes Rahm Emanuel, you probably also believe he respects JJ Sr. You'd be wrong on both counts. This is POLITICS, nothing more or less.
Find humor in everything. Life is way too short.
dumbasses like you two agree on anything but then again you're both most likely one person, a plant on this blog strumming the Rahm violin...yawn, scratch, burp. have a not nice next election. have fun looking for a job when Rahm loses.
7/19/2012 10:53:00 PM
So...when was the last time your ass was at a union meeting? Huh pal?
I go every time and I can tell ya...the turn out sucks.
Why else do morons like Shields win.
Anonymous said
Let the union sponsor a study of how much time is actually put in by teachers after school hours in their " preparation". They are afraid to because the results would blow holes in their horror stories.
CTU did in fact sponsor a study to determine the average hours a CPS teacher works per week. Including clocked in time and unpaid work after school and weekends the average was 60 hours per week. The teachers only get paid for 31 hours a week. Check the CTU web site to read the study.
You really are talking out of your ass when you say
Way too many of the teachers and administrators are ill prepared or do not care. That, my friend, is a documented fact from many large city school systems around the country. Throwing money at these schools has shown not to work after a certain point. The chicago public school teachers are the best paid of any major city in the country, have the lowest retirement age, the best pension and the shorted work day and work year of any school system.
Where can I find your documented facts??
Why are you spouting Rahm's bull shit?
Rahm is about to experience a sideways enema. Karen Lewis won't even give him a prior-lube for all his time & trouble.
CPD, we love ya' stay strong.
CTU Solidarity.
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