OT Costs
We received a pretty amazing set of numbers yesterday via e-mail. It seems that with the "violence reduction initiative" and the restarting of CTA Special Employment, the Department is spending over half-a-million dollars per week on overtime costs.
But hey, McAccountingMajor says the city won't hire any more cops until he's sure we're using all available assets in the best manner possible. $26 million a year just to hire coppers back seems like a tremendous savings.
At least we'll be able to afford a new car...if the city's checks don't bounce.
But hey, McAccountingMajor says the city won't hire any more cops until he's sure we're using all available assets in the best manner possible. $26 million a year just to hire coppers back seems like a tremendous savings.
At least we'll be able to afford a new car...if the city's checks don't bounce.
Labels: money questions
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
72 Comments:
If the city's checks are even issued.
McAccountingMajor...another good one. Funny stuff.
Little Herbie Pulgar got into some trouble tonight in 014. Got picked up for UUW (bb gun) near the area he was previously arrested for robbery.
More for me!
actually the city is saving money by paying OT as opposed to hiring. The unloaded cost (the hourly rate as we know it) per hour is significantly less than the loaded cost (hourly rate+benefits+training+whatever other costs the city incurs for an employee) per hour. So even though the city pays time and a half for OT, it doesnt incur additional costs for existing employees. Hope it makes sense. whoever divulged the cost of the OT should of done a comparison to the cost of hiring and training an additional 200 or so or whatever is the average number of officers working OT on any given night. Also, when you hire thats a fixed cost as opposed to paying OT which gives you flexibility to make adjustments.
It's much cheaper this way.
Just don't go putting that money into a bank that's all.
Look! There's no decrease in the increase here:
"Two area banks were robbed this afternoon, pushing the number of heists this year to 116 -- one more than last year’s entire tally, authorities said. "
About five more months to go too! When are you guys gonna start being efficient?
Paying overtime is the only way the city could bridge the gap with the police manpower shortage. If the city doesn't decide to hire then the manpower shortage will only get worse. 25% of the police officers could retire right now on the spot. Another 25% can retire within 5 years. In the meantime the city says "no we don't need to hire as many police officers".
"...$26 million a year just to hire coppers back seems like a tremendous savings..."
Of course it is a tremendous savings!
No Training Costs.
No Additional Equipment Costs.
No Additional Any Costs.
Especially, out of $26 Million...
$26M 18% of that = $4.68M from city
$26M 18% of that = $2.34M from P.O.s
That comes down to $7.02 million our pension fund will not get.
Not One Red Cent towards the pensions of those greedy coppers. Dangle some cash in front of them and they will sell out their own mothers. Come contract time, lure them with a signing bonus and a FAT RETRO CHECK and they will give away all the rights won over all the years. Rahm will divide and conquer old verses young cops, district verses detective.
Rahm is laughing up his sleeve as he raises our taxes to support all those "New Americans" that will be voting for him next election.
But can we get any relief in the districts?
HELL NO!!
McHatchetman said, "I'm not going to give you people at time and a half just so you can give someone else a day off."
Call your Alderman, FIRE McCARTHY!
Register and Vote, FIRE RAHM!
So far the homicide total for August is 13... Last years total for August was 35. Not bad for 7 days in, thank goodness we have the VRI!
I worked it for the first time tonight. The Captain said they had 400 officers working last night (Sunday) & not enough sergeants. Looks like it's gonna go through October.
Off Topic: If it wasn't for the fact that that politicians here want the "Immigrant Vote" we could get this here.
YOU HAVE TO LOVE THIS ONE.
Go Dallas
Recently, the City of Dallas, Texas, passed an ordinance stating that if a driver is pulled over by law enforcement and is not able to provide proof of insurance, the car is towed.
To retrieve the car after being impounded, they must show proof of insurance to have the car released.
This has made it easy for the City of Dallas to remove uninsured
cars.
Shortly after the "No Insurance" ordinance was passed, the Dallas
Impound lots began to fill up and were full after only nine days.
Over 80 % of the impounded cars were driven by illegals.
Now, not only must they provide proof of insurance to have their
car released, they have to pay for the cost of the tow, a $350 fine,
and $20 for every day their car is kept in the lot.
Guess what? Accident rates have gone down 47% and.. Dallas'
solution gets uninsured drivers off the road WITHOUT making them
show proof of nationality.
I wonder how the ACLU or the Justice Department will get around
this one.
Just brings tears to your eyes doesn't it?
GO Dallas !
The month of August reports 13 homicides, and its only August 7. What are we averaging 2 homicides per day? Thats fabulous. We could go over 700 this year. Its a banner year!
Expect a tru or msf return shortly, however expect it to have a different name and have G Mac present it as his own violence reduction initiative team. Same stuff different day
No kidding, the city still owes me for four days of my violence reducing efforts last month!
Slightly O.T. :
Going to be hitting my 10 year mark in the next few months. Anyone know what the pay difference is? I know its nothing crazy, but I'd like to know how much extra I'd see in my paycheck. I'm married claiming 2. Thanks in advance and stay safe.
That is good safety first .
OT --
Like the man said, you only have 15 minutes to be famous today, so you have to move fast before the next fad overtakes you.
Trayvon Martin's mama is now demanding $75,000 from the gated housing development where Trayvon was apparently shot while beating someone's head on the cement.
SHE ALSO WANTS MONEY FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA FUND SET UP TO HELP CRIME VICTIMS.
OT --
News reports this AM, another big Obama fundraiser is coming -- "hundreds of police will be pulled off the streets" to guard the event while Obama stuffs his pockets again.
Ka-ching!
Ka-ching!
Ka-ching!
The experiment to do away with CTA Special Employment failed miserably. Even though we don't do anything when we're there our presence is enough to deter the animals from acting out. I just hope that goof Sgt. B.M. isn't there. What a head case.
Here's what I don't understand you guys say some cops need the money and we should leave them alone. That's fine but what if they never started this overtime initiative. You mean to tell me your living that close to being broke, that's pathetic and don't say I got kids a mortgage and other bills you are living outside your means. All I'm asking is no one work it for month of August it will be a huge wake up call and what will you lose maybe 5 to $700 if you can't sacrifice that then we are screwed. You idiots keep saying we have a contract and they can't do this or that. You have no idea what your in for
Sorry Typo, should read>
"...Especially, out of $26 Million...
$26M 18% of that = $4.68M from city
$26M >9% of that = $2.34M from P.O.s
That comes down to $7.02 million our Pension Fund will not get. "
C.T.A. Special was a money saver for the City because it was a straight time deployment of personnel rather than a time and a half pay-out. But Forrest "Gump" Claypool has so much hatred for police that he just dosen't get it. Then again, what should you expect from someone who took the "Machine" at it's word that John Storeger Sr. was fine and would return to work, even though nobody saw him and he was at that point a potted plant.
Anonymous said...
actually the city is saving money by paying OT as opposed to hiring. The unloaded cost (the hourly rate as we know it) per hour is significantly less than the loaded cost (hourly rate+benefits+training+whatever other costs the city incurs for an employee) per hour. So even though the city pays time and a half for OT, it doesnt incur additional costs for existing employees. Hope it makes sense. whoever divulged the cost of the OT should of done a comparison to the cost of hiring and training an additional 200 or so or whatever is the average number of officers working OT on any given night. Also, when you hire thats a fixed cost as opposed to paying OT which gives you flexibility to make adjustments.
8/07/2012 12:48:00 AM
I bet my pension this comment is not from anyone at FOP office. Way too insightful!
In reality, I bet my pension on what the FOP doesn't know Every F'ing Day!
is the cta special, time an a half?
"Guess what? Accident rates have gone down 47% and.. Dallas'
solution gets uninsured drivers off the road WITHOUT making them
show proof of nationality.
I wonder how the ACLU or the Justice Department will get around
this one.
Just brings tears to your eyes doesn't it?
GO Dallas !"
FYI, we already do this, no insurance no car. Nothing new, go back to sleep!
Will the O.T. Police have to provide coverage tonight for...
NATIONAL NIGHT OUT ?
Why isn't FOP and PB&PA, the Hundred Club and everyone else out there waving banners and screaming...
"HIRE MORE POLICE!!!""
and "FIRE McCARTHY!"
Well why not?
Dont look now but tom skilling and a cooler/wetter pattern might save this city
To 11:40 AM - no, cta special is not time and a half and never will be. To the other poster - im not living paycheck to paycheck but the little extra that i get from the OT goes to treat the wife and kids with things i otherwise wouldnt be able to afford. Also, for the kids trust fund.
hmm at least msf answered some jobs...time and half security guards..
no bids no work!
people are moving around on management but people with seniority cant thatis bullshit, wake up lemming keep on letting them push u around.
If U can retire do it now. Tellin U if U wait U will get FUCKED. 15 yrs on now are gonna get fucked in their pension when they retire. 5-10 yrs on the job now will see a fraction of what they thought they would get. Better sock away deff. comp. If there is no money to give then no money to give. But keep paying into pension cause I got mine with free Ins. which they will close the door on real near future guys who waited too long. Crapshoot if you stay but ALWAYS loose when U gamble. GO NOW IF U CAN or get fucked next year. But don't cry after the fucking!!!
To 11pm your kids would probably rather spend 8 hrs in the backyard with you then whatever your buying them with that $250
7300X related that the biggest problem with today's officers is that they refuse to put the job first and their family second. He further related that one of the reasons he is a captain is because he never put his family first. WTF !?
SCC, why a car? Take that money & buy some assets that will appreciate and/or pay dividends. Or just save the cash on hand & be liquid. Think long term & don't buy a condo!
Anonymous said...
OT --
News reports this AM, another big Obama fundraiser is coming -- "hundreds of police will be pulled off the streets" to guard the event while Obama stuffs his pockets again.
Ka-ching!
Ka-ching!
Ka-ching!
8/07/2012 08:40:00 AM
Yea....because Romney never stuffs his pockets. Get a clue, jagoff. Both these guys are incapable of running a country...not just Obama. If ya think Romney is gonna swoop in and save the day you're completely lost. The country is falling fast. Chicago is just a smaller version of what's going on in this country.
Even though we don't do anything when we're there our presence is enough to deter the animals from acting out. I just hope that goof Sgt. B.M. isn't there. What a head case.
8/07/2012 09:09:00 AM
You proudly thump your chest and tell the taxpayers you "don't do anything"? Then you beef about the Sergeant that tries to get you to do anything. You are a TURD.
Don't you have any pride? Any sense of a work ethic?
Attention officers working this....Double check your pay checks. I was apparently "accidentally left off the A&As" for one of my safe city days worked in June and not paid. After proving I worked said day, No one can give me a straight answer on when I will be compensated. Also they claim there is a glitch in the system right now and don't plan on paying anyone who worked safe city on July 22 until further notice, myself included. Nice how the city gets to decide to pay us our earned money whenever they feel like it. Document everything!
Slightly O.T. :
Going to be hitting my 10 year mark in the next few months. Anyone know what the pay difference is? I know its nothing crazy, but I'd like to know how much extra I'd see in my paycheck. I'm married claiming 2. Thanks in advance and stay safe.
Really???
For as long as it took you to type this, it would have taken just as long to look it up on the fop website.
It amazes me how dumb some people are.
3 bars.... That means 15-19 years, since we know your no detective material.
Anonymous said...
Here's what I don't understand you guys say some cops need the money and we should leave them alone. That's fine but what if they never started this overtime initiative. You mean to tell me your living that close to being broke, that's pathetic and don't say I got kids a mortgage and other bills you are living outside your means. All I'm asking is no one work it for month of August it will be a huge wake up call and what will you lose maybe 5 to $700 if you can't sacrifice that then we are screwed. You idiots keep saying we have a contract and they can't do this or that. You have no idea what your in for
8/07/2012 10:22:00 AM
Are you an idiot!!!! The economy is awful. If one can make more money - then why not! B/w 25 days off a year plus baby furloughs, it is worth it to work a few extra nights a summer to have more for self, family and future.
"....but the little extra that i get from the OT goes to treat the wife and kids with things i otherwise wouldnt be able to afford. Also, for the kids trust fund.
8/07/2012 03:11:00 PM"
how about treating them with your company?
unless, of course, they don't really like you all that much, and prefer to check the money box.
Hireback is the best part time job going anybody who doesn't jump on it is a fool!
Anonymous said...
Slightly O.T. :
Going to be hitting my 10 year mark in the next few months. Anyone know what the pay difference is? I know its nothing crazy, but I'd like to know how much extra I'd see in my paycheck. I'm married claiming 2. Thanks in advance and stay safe.
8/07/2012 07:40:00 AM
<><><><><><><><><><><>
So you're coming up on 10 years OTJ and you can't figure this shit out for yourself? Not quite sure where to look, huh? Maybe you'll find the answer under that XBox controller.
For your sake, I'd hope you were pulling our legs, but I'm 100% confident that your question is legit.
Why don't you come up out of Mom and Dad's basement and ask them if maybe they have an idea how much more your check will be when your 10 year anniversary arrives.
And one more thing...don't forget to have the seamstress at the uniform store sew a half star on your jacket.
Idiot.
I bet my pension this comment is not from anyone at FOP office. Way too insightful!
In reality, I bet my pension on what the FOP doesn't know Every F'ing Day!
Oh wise one please tell us everything that you know. Please just share some of your wisdom.
how about treating them with your company?
unless, of course, they don't really like you all that much, and prefer to check the money box.
8/07/2012 05:53:00 PM
lol, you got me there. they enjoy me as much as i enjoy them. trust me, i dont work any side jobs or go to court that much. i take whatever cta or ot thats offered by cpd which isnt much.
To 11pm your kids would probably rather spend 8 hrs in the backyard with you then whatever your buying them with that $250
8/07/2012 03:42:00 PM
man, cant get any breaks here.my kids are young enough that theyre in bed while im out working those hours.everyones situation is different
RE Dallas:
The City of Chicago can make a killing in revenue by towing vehicles of drivers who don't have insurance and a driver's license, but they would rather beat down the middle class by taxing the $hit out of them
To 5:51am you can call me a idiot but i will be happy to compare tax returns with you I made over 250k last yr I have 19 yrs on this job and ill bet I have way more felony arrest than you plus I write about 30 parkers a period. So keep working overtime and in 5 yrs when they take our pension maybe you can borrow the overtime initiative money you put in your kids trust fund. Dumb like the rest of you college graduates
To 1022am yea I'm a idiot two days at your overtime initiative wouldn't even pay my bar tab and I'm the idiot you either have alimony or a big mortgage either way your the idiot
Why are some people so concerned that some of us work extra jobs. Just because we choose to do so doesn't mean we live beyond our means. Some of us actually have financial goals and the extra money helps us reach them quicker. Some have kids that go to private school and play sports. Some guys work extra so their wives can stay home with the kids. Bottom line, mind your own business and worry about yourself and quit knocking people who work hard to make a better life for themselves and their families.
no bids no work!
Indeed. How is this never talked about. Its as if we are abused children who don't want to talk about it.
Yea....because Romney never stuffs his pockets. Get a clue, jagoff. Both these guys are incapable of running a country...not just Obama. If ya think Romney is gonna swoop in and save the day you're completely lost. The country is falling fast. Chicago is just a smaller version of what's going on in this country.
I dont believe the original comment said anything about romney. I am sure he would agree with you. Chicago is a mini version of what is going on in this country. And what is going on? A great nation being turned into a shit hole because the democratic machine has failed and most politicians have ceased to care about the American people. Dont attack someone for telling the truth....jagoff! I can gaurantee your still blaming Bush too....well Obama has not improved are situation one bit. He's only had 4 yrs. Fuck any bullshit stats you may post in regards to this message. I go on what I see.
Anonymous said...
Here's what I don't understand you guys say some cops need the money and we should leave them alone. That's fine but what if they never started this overtime initiative. You mean to tell me your living that close to being broke, that's pathetic and don't say I got kids a mortgage and other bills you are living outside your means. All I'm asking is no one work it for month of August it will be a huge wake up call and what will you lose maybe 5 to $700 if you can't sacrifice that then we are screwed. You idiots keep saying we have a contract and they can't do this or that. You have no idea what your in for
8/07/2012 10:22:00 AM
We get it, you're a lazy slob. We're not living "paycheck to paycheck." Unlike you, some of us have goals in sight...a new car (after 12 years, I think I deserve one); a nice vacation, far, far away from this shithole (and no, The Dells don't count); braces for the kids; something extra special for the spouse or my parents; or just to build up the rainy day fund.
Yes, there are a ton of things fucked up about this job these days, but being given the chance to earn some extra money to provide some nice things for the family isn't one of them. So as long as this program is running, I'll be working it. In the meantime, avail yourself of the tuition reimbursement program and take a few writing and English classes or else go back down into your mom's basement!
Going to be hitting my 10 year mark in the next few months. Anyone know what the pay difference is? I know its nothing crazy, but I'd like to know how much extra I'd see in my paycheck. I'm married claiming 2. Thanks in advance and stay safe.
Hey buddy congrats on year 10 year mark. You get about 60 dollars more a check. Don't listen to that asshole making the stupid comments about your question. He's the reason you have so many young guys walking around thinking they know it all because there afraid of asking questions and getting a jagoff remark like that one. Stay safe out there.
"Anonymous said...
Hireback is the best part time job going anybody who doesn't jump on it is a fool!
8/07/2012 06:48:00 PM"
Hmmm... Now here's a thought.
Rahm can spend alllll this money.
Sounds like the city ain't broke after all and can afford us a really good raise.
Just a thought.
Going to be hitting my 10 year mark in the next few months. Anyone know what the pay difference is? I know its nothing crazy, but I'd like to know how much extra I'd see in my paycheck. I'm married claiming 2. Thanks in advance and stay safe.
Guess you'll never make Det.
Look at the contract. The FOP site has it up for all to see.
Anonymous said...
"...$26 million a year just to hire coppers back seems like a tremendous savings..."
Of course it is a tremendous savings!
No Training Costs.
No Additional Equipment Costs.
No Additional Any Costs.
Especially, out of $26 Million...
$26M 18% of that = $4.68M from city
$26M 18% of that = $2.34M from P.O.s
That comes down to $7.02 million our pension fund will not get.
/.../
***********************************
This is an interesting point, but there is a slight error. It is 9 % from P.O.'s, but the total 2.43M is correct, as is the city contribution. Remember though that the city contribution would in addition to the original cost, and the P.O.'s contribution would be subtracted from the original total.
Anonymous said...
Slightly O.T. :
Going to be hitting my 10 year mark in the next few months. Anyone know what the pay difference is? I know its nothing crazy, but I'd like to know how much extra I'd see in my paycheck. I'm married claiming 2. Thanks in advance and stay safe.
8/07/2012 07:40:00 AM
***********************************..
Do you mean to tell me that you have no idea how to check th salary schedule and then check the IRS tables and other deductions to figure out for yourself what your increase will be. No wonder so many of you dopes believe everything that you hear, you have no self reliance capabilities. Moron.
Here's what I don't understand you guys say some cops need the money and we should leave them alone. That's fine but what if they never started this overtime initiative. You mean to tell me your living that close to being broke, that's pathetic and don't say I got kids a mortgage and other bills you are living outside your means. All I'm asking is no one work it for month of August it will be a huge wake up call and what will you lose maybe 5 to $700 if you can't sacrifice that then we are screwed. You idiots keep saying we have a contract and they can't do this or that. You have no idea what your in for
8/07/2012 10:22:00 AM
We get it, you're a lazy slob. We're not living "paycheck to paycheck." Unlike you, some of us have goals in sight...a new car (after 12 years, I think I deserve one); a nice vacation, far, far away from this shithole (and no, The Dells don't count); braces for the kids; something extra special for the spouse or my parents; or just to build up the rainy day fund.
Yes, there are a ton of things fucked up about this job these days, but being given the chance to earn some extra money to provide some nice things for the family isn't one of them. So as long as this program is running, I'll be working it. In the meantime, avail yourself of the tuition reimbursement program and take a few writing and English classes or else go back down into your mom's basement!
I see both points of view and both are valid but the majority of officers I know who sign up for the overtime program are of the more non-conservative in the fiscal arena. I doubt these persons are putting money away in a bank. A casino, maybe but not a bank.
Just remember there will never be enough money. Never. Wants & needs are endless, that's just simple economics. But TIME has limits. So enjoy what you have.
Remember what Joe Strummer sang: It's the best years of your life they want to steal!
Anonymous said...
Off Topic: If it wasn't for the fact that that politicians here want the "Immigrant Vote" we could get this here.
YOU HAVE TO LOVE THIS ONE.
Go Dallas
Recently, the City of Dallas, Texas, passed an ordinance stating that if a driver is pulled over by law enforcement and is not able to provide proof of insurance, the car is towed.
To retrieve the car after being impounded, they must show proof of insurance to have the car released.
This has made it easy for the City of Dallas to remove uninsured
cars.
Shortly after the "No Insurance" ordinance was passed, the Dallas
Impound lots began to fill up and were full after only nine days.
Over 80 % of the impounded cars were driven by illegals.
Now, not only must they provide proof of insurance to have their
car released, they have to pay for the cost of the tow, a $350 fine,
and $20 for every day their car is kept in the lot.
Guess what? Accident rates have gone down 47% and.. Dallas'
solution gets uninsured drivers off the road WITHOUT making them
show proof of nationality.
I wonder how the ACLU or the Justice Department will get around
this one.
Just brings tears to your eyes doesn't it?
GO Dallas !
Didn't Waukegan recently try this and there was such a backlash by the Mexicans saying that it was racial profiling? I'm sure that there are still plenty of blacks and whites living in the area. What do I know.
8/08/2012 02:59:00 AM
Thank you. As for the other smart ass answers, I had looked it up prior to posting. I wanted to know what I'd actually SEE per check. In spite of your remarks, I still wish you all the best and home safe to your families.
Anonymous said...
8/08/2012 02:59:00 AM
Thank you. As for the other smart ass answers, I had looked it up prior to posting. I wanted to know what I'd actually SEE per check. In spite of your remarks, I still wish you all the best and home safe to your families.
8/08/2012 04:35:00 PM
If your old lady is like mine, you ain't gonna see shit when that step raise hits.
Want to issue some parkers that are 95% change to get dismissed, and you can't get in trouble for writing them?
09-76-170 Failure to display City Sticker during operation
I write them all day...my Sgt is thrilled for the activity....and the dismissal rate on this one is about 80%.
To the officer who sees both points of working extra, how do you know where people are putting their money? You're making assumptions you know nothing about. Are you looking at their bank statements? More importantly, how is it any of your business? Your life sucks that bad that all you can think about is fellow police officers working extra jobs and why? It doesn't affect you. All of us are adults and can manage our own lives without the input of fellow officers. It's our business why we work and how we choose to spend our time. Spare the lecture and take care of your own life.
Remember when...
Municipal Ordinance Court
Male Misd.
Female Misd.
Male Felony
Female Felony
Dope Court
Night Dope Court
Hoe Court
Gun Court
Vehicle Impounds
Etc etc...
Fully staffed watches meant you actually had time to grab a couple movers and a handful of parkers to "pay yourself."
The city was making money by the long ton. Coppers were making dimes on the dollar of revenue being generated but that was fine, times were good and The Policeman was kinda happy.
The trouble began when the city said "WOOOO-WHEEE! Lookit all da free money dese coppers is generatin'! Why should WE have to share any of it?"
Doo-Doo Butter Daley said, "Fuck you Coppers. No more court for you!"
Coppers said, "Fuck you very much... No more revenue for you!"
Ol' Doo-Doo Butter shit his pants when the bean counters said, "HOLY SHIT MR. MAYOR! The Coppers sitting on their "revenue generators" are fucking KILLING US!"
"Youz guys tryin' to fuck me after I said fuck you?"
There was plenty and these selfish pricks got too greedy.
The gutting the Department was vendetta for Coppers not taking kindly to being cut out of the money stream and sitting so hard on their "revenue generators."
Would love to see the ledgers to compare revenue generated by coppers say 15 or 20 years ago versus today...
Biting the hand that fed them has resulted in loosened teeth and a fat lip for the city.
They KNOW IT.
They're PISSED about it.
They're too cowardly to correct it.
Shortly after the "No Insurance" ordinance was passed, the Dallas
Impound lots began to fill up and were full after only nine days.
Over 80 % of the impounded cars were driven by illegals.
Now, not only must they provide proof of insurance to have their
car released, they have to pay for the cost of the tow, a $350 fine,
and $20 for every day their car is kept in the lot.
Guess what? Accident rates have gone down 47% and.. Dallas'
solution gets uninsured drivers off the road WITHOUT making them
show proof of nationality.
I wonder how the ACLU or the Justice Department will get around
this one.
Just brings tears to your eyes doesn't it?
GO Dallas !
8/07/2012 04:43:00 AM
Most of the junk collectors here driving old pickup trucks full of scrap metal do not have insurance or drivers licenses.
Every one I have stopped have neither and get towed. One guy got banged with the felony driving on a revoked and got a year inside. That is how to hurt one segment here.
And who criticizes me here? Hispanic cops, that's who. "They're just trying to make a living" I am told. I drive the same streets they do and I pay lots to insure myself against them. Bullshit. They drive with no license and no insurance, they lose their pickup truck full of junk. They either stop driving with no license or insurance or else go back to Mexico.
Anonymous said...
Slightly O.T. :
Going to be hitting my 10 year mark in the next few months. Anyone know what the pay difference is? I know its nothing crazy, but I'd like to know how much extra I'd see in my paycheck. I'm married claiming 2. Thanks in advance and stay safe.
8/07/2012 07:40:00 AM
It is in that black softcover book the FOP gave you called the contract. Get one from your unit rep. Or go to FOP website and look at the pdf of the contract, page 61.
The pay grade for 10 years is $78,012 annual or $6,502 monthly, gross.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
actually the city is saving money by paying OT as opposed to hiring. The unloaded cost (the hourly rate as we know it) per hour is significantly less than the loaded cost (hourly rate+benefits+training+whatever other costs the city incurs for an employee) per hour. So even though the city pays time and a half for OT, it doesnt incur additional costs for existing employees. Hope it makes sense. whoever divulged the cost of the OT should of done a comparison to the cost of hiring and training an additional 200 or so or whatever is the average number of officers working OT on any given night. Also, when you hire thats a fixed cost as opposed to paying OT which gives you flexibility to make adjustments.
8/07/2012 12:48:00 AM
I bet my pension this comment is not from anyone at FOP office. Way too insightful!
In reality, I bet my pension on what the FOP doesn't know Every F'ing Day!
8/07/2012 11:35:00 AM
Don't start betting your pension, you'd lose it right quick.
Anonymous said...
8/08/2012 02:59:00 AM
Thank you. As for the other smart ass answers, I had looked it up prior to posting. I wanted to know what I'd actually SEE per check. In spite of your remarks, I still wish you all the best and home safe to your families.
8/08/2012 04:35:00 PM
Every paycheck is different. Most people not working in finance division would have no idea what you will see. Call them or else wait till you get that first check and look at it, not a smart ass answer, the truth.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
OT --
News reports this AM, another big Obama fundraiser is coming -- "hundreds of police will be pulled off the streets" to guard the event while Obama stuffs his pockets again.
Ka-ching!
Ka-ching!
Ka-ching!
8/07/2012 08:40:00 AM
Yea....because Romney never stuffs his pockets. Get a clue, jagoff. Both these guys are incapable of running a country...not just Obama. If ya think Romney is gonna swoop in and save the day you're completely lost. The country is falling fast. Chicago is just a smaller version of what's going on in this country.
8/07/2012 04:57:00 PM
Pretty sure it's an OT thing, and the original poster is going to make some money, hence the 'kaching".
Another thought...
To: Everyone working these Hireback programs
Talk to your TAX PROFESSIONAL and/or someone from Defered Comp, the Credit Union or someone who can give you some good advice on sheltering this extra income.
Stay Safe, April 15th, 2013 will be here soon enough, as well as November 6th 2012.
Irish Welfare is expensive!!
Post a Comment
<< Home