Disability Hit Series
The Sun Times continues to do Rahm's bidding with Fusco and Novak contributing something like four separate stories of disabled cops and firefighters with questionable injuries. We aren't going to link to the stories themselves because they're pretty one-sided.
No one here is doubting for a second that there is the potential for abuse of the disability system and there likely is abuse going on as we speak. But the scorched earth solution Rahm is looking for does nothing except screw the legit cases.
So how about this - the FOP, the Memorial Foundation, someone start posting stories about cops or firefighters who qualify for disability. Officers who will never be physically whole. Firefighters with lung damage. Guys and gals missing digits, limbs, eyes. People who will never hold their child again. Or walk.
Those stories are there and they aren't being told.
No one here is doubting for a second that there is the potential for abuse of the disability system and there likely is abuse going on as we speak. But the scorched earth solution Rahm is looking for does nothing except screw the legit cases.
So how about this - the FOP, the Memorial Foundation, someone start posting stories about cops or firefighters who qualify for disability. Officers who will never be physically whole. Firefighters with lung damage. Guys and gals missing digits, limbs, eyes. People who will never hold their child again. Or walk.
Those stories are there and they aren't being told.
Labels: officer injured
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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OR... ...how many Dept members have not taken ANY medical days over an extended period of time.
How many "show-up-to-work-without-medical" ribbons has the department issued?
Haven't used a day of medical during my career-- I'm lucky to have my health
FOP Meeting on Tues at 12:00pm.
Everyone needs to be there and hear how Mikey can explain how he...
1. continues to keep Geiger on payroll.
2. failed to send the 28.1 letter.
etc. etc.
Once again all this poor guy did was get on with his life. Who gives all this information to reporters? This story had no other purpose than to embarrass this guy. He may have medical documentation up the wazoo that these reporters don't know about. He should not have to defend himself.
Why isn't there a story about all the people collecting those ssi checks because they have some bullshit disorder like " I can sit still for more then two hours"- a tale told to me while working the westside. I'll bet you can sit and play Xbox for 10 hours at a crack! How about the one that says "I have a bad temper"? Really? More like no parenting. They are grabbing at a few bad apples when there are a million savages stealing section 8, ssi, link, cell phones and all those other government free money programs that keep the savages at bay. Fuck this city, state and I'm sorry to say it..... Country!
Stay home and get paid to do it? Why would you have any self respect? This world we live in is fucked up! Millions of dollars out the door without justification. So they go after us- what a joke!!!!
Cops on disability because the Department refused to abide by their owne doctors orders and refuse to provide treatment until ordered to by an arbitrator. Only to find that the dammage was done.
How many times does Shields vote to deny a disability payment to a questionable injury?
It's a reason (all be it a small one) why our pension system in so poorly funded?
My guess is that if 50 PO's that are faking it were kicked off disability, our funding would increase by 1.5%.
Leave it up to coppers to mess up another thing that can benefit someone that truly needs it and be easily abused by someone that doesnt. I have no sympathy for anyone that gets fired because of this that actually deserves it.
The savagery in this city. This is the society created by liberals and democrats.
OT But something you must read..
Investigations find oboma financing mosques worldwide with U.S. taxpayer's dollars!
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2931633/posts
Read this and feel your head explode.
I was reading these articles today at my local car wash. It was disgusting. The reporting was a joke and totally biased. I have broken over 8 different bones over 18 years fighting with the savages. Have had 3 surgeries and still am working.
It is amazing how these STORIES are out when the teachers are on strike. I also found it so unusual that there was one officer with a t shirt on that DID NOT support Obama. I won't mention the officers name because we don't know what her injury really is. What a way to have the citizens think we all are using the system.
Remember in the early 2000s when car salesmen were making 100 plus grand a year? Then no one wanted to be the police in the ghetto. Now all of a sudden we are abusing everything, our pensions are too much and all cops are jerks.
Thanks Rahlm, your such an ass wipe.
Notice the surge of anti teacher add's this weekend? This truly is the working man and woman against the vested interests. Given america's history with labor, what makes these new politicians think they can just have it their way? This is so shameful! Wait until they take aim on the first responders for contract shafting. You go teachers; and bend Rahm over in the wood shed....
Absolutely disgraceful hit piece by the scum-times at Rahm al Ghoul's (the little half a Boris Karloff looking fucker) direction...
Nobody says shit about the walking wounded with torn up, broken, fractured and otherwise damaged/surgically repaired body parts.
This is the wrath of rahm since it looks like the Teachers handed him his entire ass.
Gotta recapture the hatred for those "greedy" muni employees.
Rahm is a shit-ass... People conveniently forget that he ran for mayor on blaming Police, Fire and Teachers for the alleged muni budget mess.
"I'm gonna fuck you guys but I want you to support me."
This shit-ass said he was going to cut our throats and the thoats of our families. Now he's pissed because we didn't hand him a knife to do it with?
Hell yeah people are gonna support the other guy when you talk crazy shit like that!
This dirty little, never had his ass properly beat by his daddy or anybody else shit-ass has announced nearly a half billion dollars in spending initiatives since spring as a "nyah-nyah fuck you, we got money just none for you" to Police, Fire and Teachers.
The more you're accquainted with the ways of a spoiled, North Shore shit-ass, the less you like rahm.
Hmmm... $200m for a new malcolm x?
multiple millions on bicycle lanes, maggie boxes, bump-outs and round abouts that assholes drive through.
$55m to redo the north end of Millenium Pk into a nature reserve/memorial for maggie, the gold coast/north shore phony charity money laundering & kick-back patron saint?
Let's not forget that $1.7b Infrastructure Trust that Rahm conjured up as a sop to the clouted contractors not getting their chance to steal mega billions had Chicago gotten the 2016 Olympics.
Oh... We almost forgot about the 1+b in the mayoral slush (TIF) fund.
Hiya Fusco & Novak... How are you toothless, knee walking gumps doin'? You're cordially invited to investigate all of the just above after you get done rummaging in the underwear drawers of Coppers and their families...
Maybe we need to have people follow you clowns around, rifle through your trash and talk to your neighbors about whether you ass-jokes actually adhere to anything accidentally of passing acquaintance with journalistic integrity. Did rahm have the decency to let you two at least share a wet wipe when he was done?
Every set of madly clacking wind-up dentures from the mayor, the media, Larry Msall and the rest of those gleefully knee-walking ass-hoes at the civic federation are crying in unison about "Chicago is broke" in spite of MUCH evidence to the contrary.
These fuckers ain't gonna let emanuel declare bankruptcy. They'll have to give up the REAL books...
Heh... The REAL books are hangin' evidence.
It's looking like the rest of the nation is going to revoke the insurance policy of Daley Inc. and Rahm & Co. currently residing in the White House...
That's why Rahm al Ghoul is looking very crazy and sounding kinda shrill of late. Bug-eyed, sweating like Soviet-era gulag escapee. He probably screams and runs in his sleep...
We say again... These fuckers moved heaven, earth and a few precints in hell to put Sparkly-Farts aka The Hollow Dude in the White House as a hedge against the Feds doing too much digging into the high performance fuckery that is Chicago politics gone nation wide... Rahm is a dishonorable little worm.
Wait till the Sun Times does the story on Tracey Ladner! She was the one who put officers who are willing to work on the medical. The Sun Times is going to these officer's home and interviewing them. The FOP has not been successful at returning these officers to work, but I am sure the Sun Times coverage may get the ball rolling. The medical section personnel are even perplexed at this new policy that is pure lunacy. Occasionally, the news media is our friend.
As a guy with 23 years on this job and after reading this article all I can say is this city has gone to crap.These reporters do a good job sometimes but leave the hurt copper alone. I agree if cops are scamming they should be cut off but these articles are totally disrespectful. I know one of these guys that messed up his shoulder and I was on scene and his shoulder was down to his knee cap in the center of the Loop. The cooper did the right thing and now he gets slammed for doing his job.
Rather than blaming the journalists how about blaming the mutts that screw the system and make every single cop look bad. It's time to start changing from inside. Everyone knows at least a dozen liabilities to the department and never say a word. At some point things have to change. This stuff will ruin the contract and pension.
Let's keep those medical and disability rolls as low as possible!
Start shooting if you have to get out of the car except when you want to?
Magnum TAZERS keep targets still and in range!
Sounds like a new general order?
The dogs deserve to go to jail and I will applaud any prosecutor that indicts. We all have known that there are individuals who have taken advantage of the system and they need to pay for screwing up s program that we need.
No one will take us seriously until WE root out the abusers. We have to clean our own house first...
Second city, you are right on the money... I couldn't have said it any better.
Now that it's close to Halloween, the catalogs for costumes are out. There is a kid dressed as a zombie in one that looks like the Mayor.
If you never take a day of Medical in your career do they give you free Sox tickets and a Gift card to Home Run Inn Pizza Joint?
Anonymous said...
OT But something you must read..
Investigations find oboma financing mosques worldwide with U.S. taxpayer's dollars!
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2931633/posts
Read this and feel your head explode.
9/18/2012 01:05:00 AM
That is a great source, sort of like a scandal sheet on a rack right before the cash register in the checkout line at the local supermarket.
I think your head already did explode and you never noticed it.
Beware of the zombie apocalypse!
people who are not cheating the system are not news. that is why they don't get coverage.
Wait till the Sun Times does the story on Tracey Ladner! She was the one who put officers who are willing to work on the medical. The Sun Times is going to these officer's home and interviewing them. The FOP has not been successful at returning these officers to work, but I am sure the Sun Times coverage may get the ball rolling. The medical section personnel are even perplexed at this new policy that is pure lunacy. Occasionally, the news media is our friend.
Bad info friend. Ladner is the goof behind all this. That ball is rolling, but it wasn't Ladner.
Ever think the other stories are not being told because their privacy is being respected? You criticize the Suntimes ( rightly so), but then expect agencies who are there to support police to act the same way. These agencies would be criticized by the naysayers for their biased accounts.
Sometimes it's best to ignore an asshole(s) aka reporters.
Someone mentioned the anti-teacher ads. Isn't CPS crying broke? Where did they find the bushels of money needed to fund primetime campaigning? This city is absolutely amazing! Treating employees as if all they are complete imbeciles. Nevermind. I guess I do the same thing. Now get back in the box. There's no crime here.
Hey 12:13 am. Have you been watching the teachers strike? Have you noticed their unity? Do you see any of them publicly criticizing their union president? Know why? Because they're in contract negotiations and apparently smarter than police officers.
We are too! Why don't you take a lesson from the teachers and STFU?
Save your bullshit rhetoric until after we have a contract. We are already involved in negotiations which kinda shoots down your 28.1 theory. You're really not all that bright now are you?
I GUARANTEE that these reporters will find millions of dollars of waste and abuse in the LINK, WIC and SSI but lack the courage to go after the democratic voter base.
That's what a REAL reporter would do. Go after the big fish, not make a political splash for a crooked little dwarf of a mayor. You so called reporters are the most gutless things I have ever had the displeasure of having to deal with.
FOP should be running that add in both the Scum Times and Fibune. Show the stories of those paralyzed, multiple surgeries from shootings, fights, car crashes.
When the agreement to not negotiate in the press is violated EVERY TIME by the city, then you do the same thing.
The department indicted one Po and a Detective from Area 1 . They are sitting on it to make a media spectacle out of them when the teacher's strike ends. This is per the orders of McCarthy so he can be a glory hound on tv.
How about a manditory yearly physical fitness test to keep your job like some other depts. do?
God Bless Mike Lappe. Got shot and is partially disabled and still working.His picture should be hung at the medical section for everyone to look at along with his story. The female with the cut hand in the story who can't hold a gun also look's like she can't hold a hair brush either.Great story and I hope they keep hammering the one's abusing the system.
Chicago police investigate shooting at 59th Street and Normal Avenue. (Eric Clark for the Chicago Tribune / September 17, 2012)
Why are the detectives at this crime scene not wearing their protective body armour? the female detective is wearing sun glasses, and high heels, where is her Coach purse?! Neither detective is wearing their duty belt, no flash light.
WOW!
now i know why this department has reached rock bottom!
9/17/2012 08:54:00 PM
Who are you and why does this bother you? Were you guarding the crime scene? Why didn't you approach these detectives and tell them that they were wrong?
WOW is right.
You putting that on a blog is the reason this department has hit rock bottom, not the detectives manner of dress.
Fucking loser.
"Rather than blaming the journalists how about blaming the mutts that screw the system and make every single cop look bad."
You are missing the point! You will always have a few bad apples. You can always twist a story to make someone look bad. There are millions of dollars wasted on "free money" programs and millions basically stolen from this city and they pick on us. Why? Cause it's contract time and were told to do so- get it Ricky Retardo? Now stop thinking before you do even more damage to that marble you call a brain!!!!
This BS is all Rahm's doing to ensure that we get f@#%*d out of a fair contract. The CTU is shoving it up his ballerina skirt so the angry little sprite has to take it out on someone before the swelling pools of demon piss under his eyes explode and all of the souls he has taken are released.
How many times does Shields vote to deny a disability payment to a questionable injury?
It's a reason (all be it a small one) why our pension system in so poorly funded?
My guess is that if 50 PO's that are faking it were kicked off disability, our funding would increase by 1.5%.
Please tell us which 50 to kick off. How could you possible be a policeman? The stories in the Scum-Times talks of a handful of policeman. These goofs have been working on this story since last year. The real issue is that the department has been pushing officers on the disability payrolls for years. Most officers on disability the issue is that can't qualify or protect their weapon. Do you want to ride with someone like that?
OT -
Who is the dog Sgt from 010 that was sooo lazy he couldn't even put the officers that had that shooting of the burglars last April in for an honorable mention?
And, whats wrrong with the C/O of 010010 that she didn't make sure they were recignized?
Way to boost moral.
Thats because we elected the wrong people to run our unions!! They do not place any stock in public opinion but the city is banking on it. Just look at all the negative spots about the Teachers that are running all day long. When it comes time for our pension legislation and it is in the hands of the public, we will be ass out.
9/18/2012 01:41:00 AM
Dear Mr. Box Chevy Phantom:
No one reads your long posts. You must have a lot of time on your hands.
6 or 7 pages devoted to smearing disabled police officers and firefighters--- how about peoples gas, com ed, at&t, motorola, etc...-- do they have any disabled workers--- people in all lines of work are scammers, making it look like it is just police officers and firefighters trying to beat the system was just poor journalism--- then again this article is in the scum times, the shittiest paper east of the mississippii....
"OR... ...how many Dept members have not taken ANY medical days over an extended period of time.
How many "show-up-to-work-without-medical" ribbons has the department issued?
Haven't used a day of medical during my career-- I'm lucky to have my health"
I am so tired of comments like these. You think not going on the medical makes you some kind of hero? You are GIVEN the medical time so you don't have to come in when you are sick. There are too many fools that use their comp time when they are sick, or come into work and spread their germs to everyone else. Using the medical days that you are given, per our contract when you are sick or injured off duty, does not make you a medical "abuser".
it amazes me the difference in time a person is off work for an injury based on who they work for and who is paying the bill. Statistics show that for some reason the injuries public employees receive on the job take the longest to heal compared to those who work in private industry and amazingly those individuals whom are self employed heal the fastest-who would have guessed.
Perhaps it is time to start offering rewards and prosecuting those whom commit fraud whether it be welfare, S.S.I. disability, workers compensation- problem is the greatest perpetrators of fraud are the ones we elected.
Karen Lewis form Mayor!
Only official in this city who doesn't shake in her boots when 9.5 throws his hissy fits.
well as rahm gets used to his new "friend" Karol Lewis's "Ebony Weapon". The suntimes is trying to give some "wind" to rahm on some thing
he obiviously lost on the teachers union ( thanks to peter flynn)so lets go after disability
except one tiny problem, he ( they) make no mention of the city in general( does this mean only police and fire abuse the system?)
disability abuse has gone on before my time and your time(i'm 57) after will obiviously continue after we are dead and gone
depending on the nature of the disability ( remeber only a doctor can determine that) i'm sure there are some jobs in the police fire streets and san finance what have you can be done by some on disability and i'm sure there some that would more then happy to them
i thought there was a program long ago that was going to have retired officers and fire do lets say dispatch
i'm not saying that will ease the 2000+ plus manpower shortage only hireing can do that but least keep some of these experienced people in the loop
it's pretty evident now rahm is grasping at straws
the suntimes is trying to cover it for now but soon like hyenas the "pack" will turn on him
and go with what ever the current flavor of a crisis is at the moment and do him in
(intresting how gary and him whine like little kids when they get told no)so just keep telling them no and soon they will learn or leave hopefuly leave
Anonymous said...
Why isn't there a story about all the people collecting those ssi checks because they have some bullshit disorder like " I can sit still for more then two hours"- a tale told to me while working the westside. I'll bet you can sit and play Xbox for 10 hours at a crack! How about the one that says "I have a bad temper"? Really? More like no parenting. They are grabbing at a few bad apples when there are a million savages stealing section 8, ssi, link, cell phones and all those other government free money programs that keep the savages at bay. Fuck this city, state and I'm sorry to say it..... Country!
Stay home and get paid to do it? Why would you have any self respect? This world we live in is fucked up! Millions of dollars out the door without justification. So they go after us- what a joke!!!!
9/18/2012 12:24:00 AM
Too funny. How about I have lung problems,but you bailed from a hot car and ran for three blocks before caught. I get paid to stay home and "baby sit" my kids.
Of all the shit in this city that is going on and that’s the big "investigative journalism".
I’ve known copper legitimately injured, recover but not 100% and go to work without a bitch.
I’ve known coppers that have been injured severally enough and cannot continue on the job, they not only fight there injury every day, they also fight the depression that comes from that fact.
Then there is one......one that I truly believe was a questionable claim. Years later they still run him through doctors and they keep saying he's disabled. So what is the fucking point.
Really, like it's a slow news day in this city.
For those of you who think that ALL of this is unfair reporting--the woman pictured in the Romney t-shirt is a total loser and should have been booted from the job. And she scammed the system long before she became the police. We'll all be better off when the department figures out how to get rid of people like this while ensuring legitimately hurt cops continue to receive benefits.
I just finished reading the second part of the series. My question to the reporters is why in hell was the guy with the shoulder injury even mentioned in the series? Considering that the series was intended to show how the system is abused, he was the only one that didn't seem to move on for his injury and find employment elsewhere. If anything, it showed that due to his injury, he is stuck! Low blow by the reporters for mentioning his personal financial troubles! What the hell does that have to do with abusing the system?
How about the millions of shitbirds on SSI who have never worked a dayin their lives?
Shitbirds shot by the police while committing a crime are now 'disabled' and collect SSI?
Pooky gots him a learning disablity and collects SSI?
The list goes on and on yet working police officers, injured while doing their jobs, are the problem? Seems a bit of a stretch to me. But then again, I work for a living so these societal dregs can invent 'disabilities' in order to live high on the hog. Perfectly OK...to the democratic machine.
Keep chuggin' the Kool Aid people. It's all You Tube's fault
hmmm wonder what some of the nurses from the old med section will look like in federal orange jumpsuits when they are convicted of wire fraud in federal court,????
Honestly, a story about the continuous SSI and Welfare abuse would make a much better story but that wouldnt be "politicaly correct" right?
I'm heading there soon. Let them do an article on what I've been through the last year after a major back surgery caused by numerous documented IOD'S over the years. My back never healed properly and now I'm heading back under the knife. Please, by all means, follow me around and watch me try to do any everyday task. Cutting the lawn means two hours laying flat on my back near tears. Grocery shopping means leaning on the cart for support like I'm 80 years old when I'm half that age. Blah blah blah, I know. Just beyond frustrated with my situation and daily pain, then knowing I'm going to be looked at as a scammer by some is enough to make a guy insane! Hopefully I can make a full recovery in a couple years and return.
What does an Officers financial situation have to do with his disability ?? This is horse shit journalism. The guy had two surgeries and they bring up clout. They only have maybe two cases that reek. Why the fuck can't you get another job? As long as your not case # 1. doin police work.
I wouldnt line a dogs cage with either paper.
members that go off on bogus disabilities, hurt the fund. also when money is given to a reality with connections to daley its bad. when the city does not put in money it should to the fund,not good. less pos on the job, poor performance due to the impact of the presidents financial errors. they want to stop contributing and force us to iras. what about the aldermen, do to them what they do to us. investigate their perks.
Who's this dumbfuck?
A Chicago Police officer assigned to a Southwest Side district has been arrested by police Internal Affairs on suspicion of taking a bribe to dismiss a criminal case, the Police Department announced this morning.
Police News Affairs announced the arrest of the Odgen District officer with no details, including the name.
The entire statement released by police:
“The Chicago Police Department today announced that a 10th District Officer was arrested by the Bureau of Internal Affairs for accepting a bribe payment to dismiss a pending criminal case. The investigation is ongoing.”
Check back for details.
It starts with all these dogs that are medical abusers, they are on medical every summer, same officers, our district is loaded with them.
And What about Lunch Meat Larry Lol.
@ 9/18/2012 01:11:00 AM
"Remember in the early 2000s when car salesmen were making 100 plus grand a year?"
...Goin' around in circles.
*Didn't we pass that skeleton clutching a September 18th 1982 copy of the Sun-Times already?*
Don't look here! Look over by dere!" >Fart!<
Noise. Stink. Distraction. City Hall orchestrated propaganda...
That's what Novak & Fusco have as impetus for this hit piece.
Anyone with time OTJ can tell you shit like this goes in cycles...
Booming economy = regular people making a damn good dollar and people who got a little luckier were kings of all they surveyed.
Remember the people who used to talk a lot of shit to Policemen?
*Clear six figures after taxes, $750k 3500 s/f house/condo, $500k to $1m+ in the 401k, second car and nice suv, take nice vacations all over, great job with a great company, life is so good! Fuck the Police!*
"You cops are just dumb and lazy high schoolers with guns... You make what? $50k to $60K to get shot at, run over, beat on. You work six days a week in a toxic work environment. You live in a $250k,1500 s/f shack in Dunning, Clearing etc... Blah-blah-blah..."
Then? The economy took a protracted shit... May all involved rot in hell.
Those great companies closed up with less than a moment's notice.
Those fat 401k's evaporated into thin air.
Those nice big houses & condo's got swallowed up in the rising tide.
Those "good" jobs disappeared with those good companies.
Of course through no fault of the people who got hurt... But?
Then the whispers began...
"Hey! Who the fuck do you Cops think YOU are to have and we ain't gots? You Cops make too much money. Why should you Cops get a pension and we're eating the skeletal remains of our 401k? Who said you Cops can get to retire young and we gotta keep working?"
Then...
"Fuck you Cops and your Union! Nobody else has collective bargaining so why should you Cops have it? You guys complain all the time and we're sick of it! We pay your salary and pension! Rahm needs to fire YOU all and hire US! We'll work for HALF with no benefits and get twice as much work done! GAAAHHH! We HATE you greedy Cops!
Now?
"Take away their disability and all the other cush benefits and make them work for nothing like we're doing!"
Also?
People who never gave a hoot in hell about The Police or Policing are trying to get on the job...
That grieves us to no end because people like that detract from the overall purity of purpose and drive needed to be a good street cop. This is the wrong vocation just because "I need a job."
Meh... Just the musings of a typical big, dumb old gray-haired Chicago Blue-Shirt... Strong back and a weak mind if you believe the stuff in the papers...
All in all...
After the bullshit blows away, it's nothing but jealousy at our relative stability.
As long as there is swath of real estate on the south western shore of Lake Michigan called Chicago, there will always be a need for CPD.
Whether they want to admit it or not...
The Rahm-Times conveniently omitted Officer Mullins in their first negative disability series.
Officer Mullins will be omitted again, no doubt. His image with the public creates so much sympathy that they would not generate the desired negative effects.
So the assault on the CPD continues. What gives! We are not the bad guys.
Turning the public against the teachers and now the police. Well Charter schools are the goal for the mayor and his financial supporters.(Walton family foundation)
What is the goal for the CPD? It is not in the best interest of the public or the kids to allow crime to escalate but it is for the Mayor? Sinister things are at work here. America's deadly city by choice. The choice was made by the Mayor.
12:24, my favorite ssi collector told me he ate paintchips when he was a baby. What really makes me ill is how many link cards are in prisoners property bags.
SSC, a great topic would be Reasons given for collecting SSI.
This city sucks,
CFD finally gets a wake-up call
Somebody in 010 got caught up in something...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-cops-district-officer-arrested-in-bribery-case-20120918,0,2692039.story
The Rahmunist Press Corps strikes again !
Any wonder the teachers don't trust this son of a bitch mayor. He is a conniving little mutt who enjoys demonizing anyone who doesn't obey his commands. There are bad apples in every profession. How about the self serving politicians who serve and steal. How about all their friends and family members given city jobs even if they don't qualify. Our teachers have opened the very door to the demise of our beloved mayor. Talk about buyers remorse. This is what the people of this city elected to office.
rahmboy, you are a evil little eunuch !
One of those stories wasnt even a story. I just didn't see what the reporters point was even making it an article. So the cops' dad might have known two daley kids 45 years ago before the cop was even born? That's supposed to be clout? Sounds more like there's a rat amongst us feeding the reporters some basic info.
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SCC did u hear there is a new hole in the ceiling of 015's watch commanders office. Little mishap, while clearing rifle, and assuming there is a clearing station in that office. (Wtf)
It sure would be nice if they would catch the carrer medical abuser female now at call back telling everyone that she is retiring with perm. disability for her back, but now she's on the med. from call back with another foot injury. These are the people the news should focus on. Shamefull!
Let's face it, we are our own worst enemy, we have scores of officers who love to hit the medical every chance they get, for really b s injuries. You know and I know it. These are the same people who are afraid to work the streets, love to join management, hiding there whole career from doing the job they swore they would do. You are not the police! In your mind, you feel sorry for yourself, seek sympathy from unknowing people and disgrace the department without you even realizing it. The sun times has a point, which they will use to go against us come contract time, this is not just a coincidence these stories are coming out. This is like the officer you hear about who gets greedy and takes more than he needs from the local restaurant or business who really like the police. Take this as you want, but it's the truth, the police are not the entitled ones in this day and age.
less than 5 % of police officers abuse medical roll and duty disability pension , lets get rid of the deadbeats . drop a dime on the abusers , let's save the benefits we have .
You know it is a shame the Officers that are legitimately hurt in the line of duty fall under any scrutiny over these articles. However if they really are hurt than it should never affect them, where as some DOG ASS scamming rat bastards can be investigated and turn off the spigot. Let me remind those of you that say "leave them alone," it is US paying for them, not the City. Now as for the posters mentioning Section 8, SSI, Disability, Link, etc., etc., you couldn't be more right on, but nobody has the balls to report on those abuses. We can't get voter I.D., or Public Aid drug testing, why on earth would they report on real abuse? Look at the "drama" they are making of Romney's recent recorded comments, is he wrong???? He might not be a perfect candidate but he is sure better than the current occupant of the White House. There will always be shitheads trying to scam while the rest of us work, but at least we can try to minimize it.
Anonymous said...
Rather than blaming the journalists how about blaming the mutts that screw the system and make every single cop look bad. It's time to start changing from inside. Everyone knows at least a dozen liabilities to the department and never say a word. At some point things have to change. This stuff will ruin the contract and pension.
9/18/2012 03:01:00 AM
Never say a word? There isn't much you CAN say when those very same liabilities are protected and coddled and rewarded by the gold stars.
I have had seven duty related injuries that required surgery. I am now retired after 30 plus yrs on the job. I am in constant pain.
Most retired police officers are somewhat hobbled by years of broken bones and car accidents.
Police Officers have shorter life expectancy, higher divorce rates, and higher suicide rates than the average American.
Then there are the officers that have been shot or stabbed.
I consider myself lucky when I look at guys like Jim Mullens who's life was turned upside down.
During my time on the job no fewer than 50 coppers gave their life for this city.
The wife or husband, children, and parents of those 50 police officers lost their husband or wife, mother or father, son or daughter. They also pay.
So the great investigators at the sun times found some possible abuses.
All I have to tell them is,
Fu-- Y--.
'How about a manditory yearly physical fitness test....'
OR maybe they can start in that direction by having unions sellout members to participate in a "wellness" program---which comes with $50/month non-participation penalty----
8:09 AM
Speak for yourself, "anonymous". As far as I'm concerned, Box Chevy Phantom is the poet laureate of the CPD.
Perhaps you can't handle the TRUTH.
Give you name next time. Maybe then you may have a scintilla of credibility, even for a suck-ass boss.
Mandatory physicals to save our pension and rid CPD of donut eaters and office cowards
The coppers whose cases are legit deserve every penny they get. The scamming fucks should be fired on the spot. Really, you're on disability cause you cut your index finger on your non shooting hand handcuffing someone. These mutts are taking our pension money because they are fucking lazy dogs that don't wanna work. It shouldn't have taken this story to talk about this. We should have been taking care of this shit in house and dealing with this problem long ago.
I sent Chris Fusco an email about how pissed off I was at the Tim Baldermann story.
I get run over by a squad, on duty, and in uniform and I get 50% because my pension board did what some attorney told them to do.
They need to do some fair reporting on those of us struggling in life because of how little the system gives those of us not "on the inside"
Hey media, come talk to me, ill be more then happy to tell you what and how this happened and how I have to fight for any help what so ever and I still can not get it. Then you can interview my doctor, who is approved by the city, and disgusted by the way legit cases are treated while the fakers get all the benefits.
You want news, look outside the box mighty media.
Maybe he can explain why he put a guy with a multi-million dollar lawsuit against him in Area 1. This merit hack gets dumped from vice and put in the detective division where he can really do some damage. Thanks LAPA............
9/17/2012 08:10:00 AM
We agree! Is this the guy with the "Cindy Brady" Lisp?
He has not received a warm welcome in the area, that's for sure! Be VERY, VERY careful with this "Merit Know
Nothing". Has he ever been a Detective? Nah, just a merit Sgt. & Lt...
Also, he is not LAPA! He is one of the head's of MAPO!
Get your shit right! Even though they're both BS organizations with "no more whack"!
The SunTimes sucks. I am a police officer who works everyday with pain from an IOD from 7 years ago. I probably could qualify for a disability pension but really don't feel like sitting on a couch and getting depressed daily. The Sun Times will never highlight the hundreds of cops who work daily despite injury.
off topic: Wow, you got balls to still ask to be cut early because it your friday. First, who cares go home at end of tour like everyone else, Second, Your a do nothing dog and everyone know it. Why they continue to take care of the dogs I will never know. All us late cars get screwed each and every week because of favorites.
Yellow journalism at its finest. Is the Slumtimes even in business anymore? I thought that paper and the Chicago Fribume were obsolete? Oh well, let them die a slow death, they both are barely gasping for air.
the g is on this one EB look out your time has come
Anonymous said...
9/18/2012 01:41:00 AM
Dear Mr. Box Chevy Phantom:
No one reads your long posts. You must have a lot of time on your hands.
9/18/2012 08:09:00 AM
Dear idiot,
I actually look forward to his posts because they are so spot on funny because the truth is that bad in the city. Just because you can't understand the "big words" he uses, don't knock him.
Please stop with the self serving b.s., Mike Lappe threw all of the people on disability under the bus. Yes there maybe a small percentage of officers scamming but the newspaper interview he gave was self promoting and shameless, Any respect I had for him is now gone. Why not just shut up and let the investigations into abuse fall where they may instead of turning on your fellow officers, and lumping them all together without any knowledge of their individual illnesses/injuries. Some of you people make me just as sick as the so called abusers. Unbelievable!
The Lug nut IOD tops the cake. That oFficer and her partner should be fired!
It is amazing how these STORIES are out when the teachers are on strike. I
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i counted the 1st 13 pages of the sun times with this !! they never dedicate that many pages to positive things we/firefighters do, have done or will do. But remember !!! the c.t.u. is on strike(or were as of this writing ) and once the jagoff mayor lets this dust settle WE'RE NEXT !!!!.
Oh by the way can anyone tell me please what an 'aggravazted driving without a license ' is? maybe i'm not up to date on the IVC but McStupid was doing an interview relative to the officer in 10 caught for bribery and mentioned that the alleged driver shaken down by the officer was cited for this... WTF if i'm wrong or out of touch please correct me... thanks
When the agreement to not negotiate in the press is violated EVERY TIME by the city, then you do the same thing.
AMEN TO THAT !!!!
As a detective, by the time I get to a crime scene and it's not secure enough for me to do my job without having to wear my vest, that means someone isn't doing their job correctly.
So worry about your own job before you complain about why I'm not wearing a vest.
There are plenty of friggin' dogs and connected people on disability. Lets not act like there isnt. Unfortunately we are judged by the bad examples a few set. But if anyone has an issue with the current situation, take it up during contract negotiations...
Dear Mr. Box Chevy Phantom:
No one reads your long posts. You must have a lot of time on your hands.
9/18/2012 08:09:00 AM
i read them.
every fucking word.
now, tell me i'm no one.
Chalkie
When it comes time for our pension legislation and it is in the hands of the public, we will be ass out.
9/18/2012 08:07:00 AM
in the hands of the public?
are you fucking retarded?
How many times does Shields vote to deny a disability payment to a questionable injury?
It's a reason (all be it a small one) why our pension system in so poorly funded?
My guess is that if 50 PO's that are faking it were kicked off disability, our funding would increase by 1.5%.
9/18/2012 12:38:00 AM
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Hey moron, it's the Dr. That approve the FRAUD, so why don't u use your small brain and instead suggest they go after the Dr.s that allow the fraud to continue. Also, don't forget that there is a Sgt. And Lt. As well as retiree that also votes. Now shut the fuck up!!!!!!!!
Karen Lewis form Mayor!
Only official in this city who doesn't shake in her boots when 9.5 throws his hissy fits.
9/18/2012 09:04:00 AM
Yeah I remember when you used to say Mike Shields for mayor!
On another note how is it that John Cappas who was convicted of running a multi-million dollar drug ring and sentenced to 45years is out after serving 19years. On top of that he allegedly earned several degrees, on our dime, while incarcerated. Now he is partial owner of a restaurant, where did he get the money, and wrote a book about his experiences with the alleged criminal justice system.He ruined countless lives on the south side of chicago and the suburbs selling drugs and threatening to kill law enforcement officers. They call this justice?????????Crook County style.
One small step for the teacher's, One giant foot up your Ass for Rahm kind!
The Teacher
How'bout them greedy little bitches!
When it comes time for our pension legislation and it is in the hands of the public, we will be ass out.
You are right on the money Brother. Its a shame our union will now slam your post.
Hey Fusco & Novak!
If you two clowns REALLY want to get the "goods" on somebody, why don't you dig into why so many Policemen who work(ed) in notorious cancer and upper respiratory ailment clusters like 011/Area 4, 012, 013, 025/Area 5, and other places are dying/have died?
Oh wait... That might mean Policemen being cast in a sympathetic light.
Viva Hate... Carry on.
More than a hunch...
Someone in the mayor's office is giving directed information on how to word FOI requests to get all this curiously specific info on the what, how much and how many regarding Coppers medical info...
Leaving bits of Coppers flesh to lead the media buzzards to what they're looking for all for the sake of *Police are your enemy* propaganda.
If the average citizen's info was leaked to the media like this by an employer, the leaker(s), those who solicited and ran the story and their bosses would be swinging from the gallows...
Karma, motherfuckers... Karma.
Anonymous said...
less than 5 % of police officers abuse medical roll and duty disability pension , lets get rid of the deadbeats . drop a dime on the abusers , let's save the benefits we have .
9/18/2012 02:35:00 PM
Here:
S.S.
Anonymous said...
'How about a manditory yearly physical fitness test....'
OR maybe they can start in that direction by having unions sellout members to participate in a "wellness" program---which comes with $50/month non-participation penalty----
9/18/2012 04:15:00 PM
That does not cover the FOP. We have had a wellness program longer than the rest and the FOP asked for many of the things in it. No penalty in case you haven't noticed the $50 penalty that does not come out of your check.
Good health is good, I know, there is always something sinister in city initiatives but the union has been active in scheduling and promoting health fairs.
I retire soon and I would like to live to collect as many pension checks as I can. I am OK with the wellness thing as the FOP has worked to structure it.
Anonymous said...
Who's this dumbfuck?
A Chicago Police officer assigned to a Southwest Side district has been arrested by police Internal Affairs on suspicion of taking a bribe to dismiss a criminal case, the Police Department announced this morning.
Police News Affairs announced the arrest of the Odgen District officer with no details, including the name.
The entire statement released by police:
“The Chicago Police Department today announced that a 10th District Officer was arrested by the Bureau of Internal Affairs for accepting a bribe payment to dismiss a pending criminal case. The investigation is ongoing.”
Check back for details.
9/18/2012 11:29:00 AM
I bet the criminal case against the rat gets dismissed now. What a dope, taking money and risking everything for a few lousy bucks.
Rahm is looking a lot like "Beetlejuice" lately. Maybe we should call him "Speedo-juice".
Here's an example of a total waste of manpower: Nine cars and a sgt at a fixed post at Harper with 5 kids in the student first program. What a joke.
CeaseFire no more!
http://cureviolence.org/news/ceasefire-becoming-cure-violence/
I'm no fan of the Sun Times, but these cases were extremely blatant, indefensible abuse. The sad thing is, its just the tip of the iceberg for Illinois (state motto: I've got mine - screw everyone else).
The chick in the Romney shirt is what reporters call the Money Shot. It could not be more perfect than that. Romney would kick her ass off the government dole.
Dealing with a stabbing victim and he told me he was on ssi. Seems that after he served 15 years for murder himself, he now suffers from depression and is deemed disabled by this lovely city. So even when they kill it ends up our fault and we should take care of them.
people have been shooting holes into 015 for years
"You putting that on a blog is the reason this department has hit rock bottom, not the detectives manner of dress.
"Fucking loser."
--9/18/2012 07:47:00 AM
Hey, he's really "at the sharp end" here. Everything he criticizes is in the one tiny newspaper photo he saw on the web.
Agreed. Fucking loser.
I want to march down Michigan avenue to protest the constant screwing us taxpayers get. I want a million man march. Just think about it. A diverse group of people united on one cause. I want Rahm and his aldergoons to beg us for their forgiveness
The Box Chevy Phantom said...
@ 9/18/2012 01:11:00 AM
"Remember in the early 2000s when car salesmen were making 100 plus grand a year?"
...Goin' around in circles.
*Didn't we pass that skeleton clutching a September 18th 1982 copy of the Sun-Times already?*
Don't look here! Look over by dere!" >Fart!<
Noise. Stink. Distraction. City Hall orchestrated propaganda...
That's what Novak & Fusco have as impetus for this hit piece.
Anyone with time OTJ can tell you shit like this goes in cycles...
Booming economy = regular people making a damn good dollar and people who got a little luckier were kings of all they surveyed.
Remember the people who used to talk a lot of shit to Policemen?
*Clear six figures after taxes, $750k 3500 s/f house/condo, $500k to $1m+ in the 401k, second car and nice suv, take nice vacations all over, great job with a great company, life is so good! Fuck the Police!*
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This is an interesting comment. It has a few good points in it. People who were making six figures were looking down at the police. They were too smart to be police officers. But businesses collasped. And now some of those same people cannot even find jobs.
Office cowards will pass the physical and still be in the office. Right now the majority are in their 20's and 30's and could easily pass the physical
Why doesn't FOP fight for YEARLY MEDICAL BONUS TIME
Suggestion: 30 to 50 hrs. of comp time added to our books that can NOT be SOLD back...that we can EARN for not hitting the medical in a FISCAL year!
FUCK THE RIBBONS!!!! I already look like a Mexicacn war general..
That's only about 3-4 days off in comp time mind you!
-So this would give incentive to US to NOT hit the medical
-It may prevent those that do once or twice a year for that extra day off or two when not so sick!
-Yes I know we DON'T have the man power for getting that time off request in....BUT its a start for our crack negotiating teams at contract time that don't have any ideas on what to barter on for US and may spark some incentive for the troops that have limited comp time on the books!
3 bars
On another note how is it that John Cappas who was convicted of running a multi-million dollar drug ring and sentenced to 45years is out after serving 19years. On top of that he allegedly earned several degrees, on our dime, while incarcerated. Now he is partial owner of a restaurant, where did he get the money, and wrote a book about his experiences with the alleged criminal justice system.He ruined countless lives on the south side of chicago and the suburbs selling drugs and threatening to kill law enforcement officers. They call this justice?????????Crook County style.
9/18/2012 07:12:00 PM
BUT.... you still eat at Bourbon Street for 1/2 off? Or attend benefits which are making the owners richer, after their connection to CAPPAS?
As a detective, by the time I get to a crime scene and it's not secure enough for me to do my job without having to wear my vest, that means someone isn't doing their job correctly.
So worry about your own job before you complain about why I'm not wearing a vest.
Hey Detective, tell that to the FIREMAN who got shot while working and on duty in South Chicago a couple of years or so ago. Bet he wished he had one available. Only an idiot goes out on the street as a policeman without ballistic protection.
As a detective, by the time I get to a crime scene and it's not secure enough for me to do my job without having to wear my vest, that means someone isn't doing their job correctly.
So worry about your own job before you complain about why I'm not wearing a vest.
9/18/2012 06:08:00 PM
Well detective you must not have been to a crime seen in Englewood, because numerous times, and a couple times with street deputies on scene, dude has fired shots in the area or at the crime scene.
"Haven't used a day of medical during my career-- I'm lucky to have my health
9/18/2012 12:09:00 AM"
You're the Goof that will sit in a squad car spreading germs to your partner. Thanks Mush, you are veritable bargain for the City.
Honestly, a story about the continuous SSI and Welfare abuse would make a much better story but that wouldnt be "politicaly correct" right?
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That and the fact that a reporter might get a bullet in the ass when he starts getting in to their business.
Then there is one......one that I truly believe was a questionable claim. Years later they still run him through doctors and they keep saying he's disabled. So what is the fucking point.
Good point. A good journalist would have asked those questions. The only way anyone gets disability is after the CITY approves it. If your doctor that the city sends you to says you can't work, why is it the P.O.'s fault?
And what would happen if some copper fought to come back after the doctor says no, and sustains an injury that leaves him ( god forbid) paralyzed?
Yeah, right. Offer an incentive not to go on the medical. I really want to be in a room or a car with you or depend on you to cover my back when you drag your sick feverish ass to work just to get some comp time. Comp time you can never use anyway. Great idea. STFU and GFY!
Worked with a guy once who coughed and coughed and coughed.
He coughed for three months before he finally went to the doctor.
Doctor diagnosis him with TB!,
I call med. sect., they tell me to just go to my own dr and get tested.
Thank god I didn't contract that crap.graph
What's the connection between John Cappas and the owners of 115 Bourbon Street?
ya bourban 1/2 off and cappas for mayor!
9/18/2012 01:41:00 AM
Dear Mr. Box Chevy Phantom:
No one reads your long posts. You must have a lot of time on your hands.
9/18/2012 08:09:00 AM
No one except you
How about some stories about SSI abuse by the worthless MFers that never contributed to the system?
Hey 9/19 5:55AM....
Sounds like you're an leftist obozo follower, and read only the obozo-owned mainstream media rags that push the oboma leftist crap...all spin and NO TRUTH. Freerepublic is a no spin, all TRUTH conservative source for what is REALLY going on in this country. Read the article, read the sources, read the FACTS...you know, the stuff you CAN'T FIND in the crap leftist news sources you refer to when YOU want to know what's going on in oboma's leftist world.
I thought for years that the city would end most sick time and the pension fund would end most disability pay and make employees take disability insurance. Private industry does this and many cities do this for their employees, even those injured in the line of duty. I still think this is possible in this town, hope not, but think it is.The days that employers took care of their employees is long gone.Thank god for unions so they can save what they can or things will get much worse.
Fuck the Sun-Times and our Mayor. I'm one of those who is on disability and can never work again or do one tenth of the things I used to be able to do. Because I fought with a fucking savage for 15 minutes before help arrived. Just thankful I'm alive. There are abusers, but there are many who wish they were back on the job instead of putting up with the pain we do every day. I wish I could have returned. Everything I enjoyed before being injured are things I can no longer do. I can't work and I can't enjoy the things I did off duty. I know there are many who are in my position. If anybody thinks disability is a great thing, think again. Maybe for a few but not for many. Being a cop takes it's toll on your body. By the time most retire you have more aches and pains than if you did any other job. We fight, fall, break bones, and are hit by bricks and other objects every day. Maybe these fucking reporters should do our job for 6 months, then write their asinine stories. That doesn't even factor in the amount of cops killed in the line of duty. What other profession has those numbers other than the military.
Mayor RUNT should look at his own buildings, lotsa shit happenin' there I'm sure. Oh, wait, that's called politics when the RUNT does it. That's rule #1 in the Rahmunism Book of rules !!
Hey rahm RUNT, KMA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
I thought for years that the city would end most sick time and the pension fund would end most disability pay and make employees take disability insurance. Private industry does this and many cities do this for their employees, even those injured in the line of duty. I still think this is possible in this town, hope not, but think it is.The days that employers took care of their employees is long gone.Thank god for unions so they can save what they can or things will get much worse.
9/19/2012 05:21:00 PM
Here's a news flash for those of you, REPORTERS, who just don't get it. POLICE WORK IS NOT LIKE YOUR OFFICE JOB. That's why a pension was set up. To take care of these people knowing that they get injured A LOT while doing their jobs.
Stop blowing Rahm and the rest of these politicians who want to bash public safety and take away benefits or you'll surely end up with the service you deserve. You may be getting a bit of that right now, eh? Try taking the family downtown and get near the Red Line.
it amazes me the difference in time a person is off work for an injury based on who they work for and who is paying the bill. Statistics show that for some reason the injuries public employees receive on the job take the longest to heal compared to those who work in private industry and amazingly those individuals whom are self employed heal the fastest-who would have guessed.
CITE YOUR SOURCES FOR THIS..
Come on richie, and dan, man up. Be an adult, quit crying or just quit, your useless to all us anyways.
Anonymous said...
off topic: Wow, you got balls to still ask to be cut early because it your friday. First, who cares go home at end of tour like everyone else, Second, Your a do nothing dog and everyone know it. Why they continue to take care of the dogs I will never know. All us late cars get screwed each and every week because of favorites.
9/18/2012 05:00:00 PM
Because the sgt. that lets them leave early Every week is soft, he wants these dogs to like him for some reason. Its a joke here
I wonder what 9.5s settlement was for cutting of part of his finger in a sandwich shop in his formitive years? The MSM would never entertain the possibility of asking him that question.
Anonymous said...
Karen Lewis form Mayor!
Only official in this city who doesn't shake in her boots when 9.5 throws his hissy fits.
9/18/2012 09:04:00 AM
Funny thing is I remember her being bashed on here and telling people she knew what she was doing. I got family and friends in CTU, people that knew her when she was still teaching. She is no crony and she is no idiot. FOP needs to take notes. Then again, interesting thought...a lot of guys have left CPD and became part of the regime on the government side. I don't know that it's as prevalent with former CPS teachers becoming aldermen and all that jazz i.e. I don't think Rahm hates FOP people like he hates CTU people.
How about officers that are on 'light duty' that compete in triathlons? Stop posting pictures on Facebook, you fool, or are we the fools, the Medical Integrity Unit should troll Facebook more often to check in on some of our allegedly 'injured' officers!!!
got a nephew who is a FED,says that there is big wire fraud cases coming down in chicago and nyc over bullshit disability cases being tax free etc,time to worry ??? I SURE AS HELL WOULD.
I swear so many idiots that are on this job don't know the difference between you're and your. When you continue to show YOUR ignorance YOU'RE likely to never be promoted because you're an ignorant asshole. Got it?
The Professor said...
I swear so many idiots that are on this job don't know the difference between you're and your. When you continue to show YOUR ignorance YOU'RE likely to never be promoted because you're an ignorant asshole. Got it?
9/21/2012 06:23:00 PM
You tell him dan, Lol, Some don't know you were just a college kid that got on, never had a real job before. Go on another vacation you deserve it.
Come on richie, and dan, man up. Be an adult, quit crying or just quit, your useless to all us anyways.
9/20/2012 04:56:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
off topic: Wow, you got balls to still ask to be cut early because it your friday. First, who cares go home at end of tour like everyone else, Second, Your a do nothing dog and everyone know it. Why they continue to take care of the dogs I will never know. All us late cars get screwed each and every week because of favorites.
9/18/2012 05:00:00 PM
Because the sgt. that lets them leave early Every week is soft, he wants these dogs to like him for some reason. Its a joke here
9/20/2012 05:09:00 PM
LOL Only on the Noth side
People do not realize disabled people have to exercise at a level recommended to their age group to function as normally as possible, so competing in tournaments is another way to strengthen their broken bodies and in some cases minds to get through the daily activities of life.
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