School Strike Stuff
We saw the Department Order the other day. Interesting to say the least:
- School Officers will start at 0600 hours instead of 0800; on post at 0630;
- Three officers will be assigned to any open high school; one officer per open grade school;
- Day Tact teams will be on mandatory 12 hour days;
There's some HQ deployment numbers, too. We also got this letter:
- Dear SCC,
You might think that we would get to use our own school people in the districts to temporarily alleviate manpower shortages, right? Wrong! In (XXX) District, we're sending nearly a third of our officers to nearby districts to sit on their schools. Is this some sort of contract violation if they are bid officers?
We'd encourage anyone being sent out of their District of Assignment to contact the FOP as soon as you find out where you're headed. If the city is playing fast and loose with the contract again, they need to be called out.
This is probably what's causing the 12-hour-days:
- The Chicago police superintendent says he’ll be ready if police have to deal with the sudden exodus of students from the classroom to the street – in case there’s a strike.
The Chicago Public Schools will have some schools open for half a day, if there’s a strike.
And that in itself is an issue for Police Supt. Garry McCarthy.
“We do have concerns and we’re working with CPS to ensure that rival gang members are not put into the same places,” McCarthy said.
We imagine the bangers aren't going to be in the alternative locations - they're going to be on the streets recruiting and settling old scores. But that's just a guess.
Labels: contract stuff
posted by SCC at 12:06 AM
238 Comments:
Mcliar also said that there will be no admin officers inside tomorrow. So go and pay a visit to your commanders office tomorrow during the day and wave to the ten or so full duty po's that are in there and make Gary a liar for the umpteenth time.
Of course the gang bangers will be recruiting. All they have to say is "hows that school stuff and edumication working out for you?"
Of course they will be walking around in the latest expensive Air Jordan's.
Rahms seriously needs to wake up and get the teachers what they want.
The homicide numbers are to go up. I'm sick of this shit.
Strike puts rahm in unemployment line and teachers out of a job with replacement teachers making 50% less.
I tell you what the teachers sure get the best contracts. A 16% raise wow! Last time we got that it had to be 3 contracts ago and probably will never see it again. I support the teachers, but they hold all the power and will drain the $$$$ wells and leave the police and fire with nothing. becarefull guys I could see Rahm firing all of you and starting from scratch.
Consistent with "Chicago values", Emanuel wants school principals to subjectively retain "merit" teachers and to implement teacher "evaluations". One guess as to who appoints the "make no waves" suck-ass principals.
Patronage! It's "the Chicago Way".
Where is Michael Shakman? These shamelessly corrupt Chicago "in-your-face" scoundrels deserve a very special place in Hell.
So now we're segregating schools based on gang affiliation?
Wow, McPilgrim.
As of 10:00 pm tonight the Teachers will walk on Monday. Saw the Evil One on tv at 11:00 pm with his usual cluster of robots who will carry out his strike plans. I give the Teachers all the credit in the world standing up to this cold hearted ruthless little bastard who thinks he can do anything he wants. I hope this strike goes on for weeks to teach this asshole a lesson. He keeps saying everything he does is for the children. What he wants is to bust the Teachers Union so he can go after all the other unions in the city. This little dictator wants to be absolute ruler of Chicago. And by the way the Racoon was seen passing the hat around getting any donations he can for his Boss Barry Obama.
I've got to give kudos to CTU President Karen Lewis. She's living proof that good looks are totally measningless to strong leadership. She's one stand-up lady that won't tolerate Emanuel's bullshit.
Unlike the CPD, the school teachers have the leverage of a strike. If only FOP was that blessed.
"...working with CPS to ensure that rival gang members are not put into the same places,” McCarthy said
Wait a second, if you have identified students as being GANG members how about EXPELLING them from the goddamned schools? Instead of making accomodations
Shouldn't schools be a gang-free zone? WTF
This eff'ed up City is like an alternate universe where up is down, bad is good, etc
Unbelievable!
Eleven grand a day in ot...better hope we clear this up shortly. I would hate to see.money in the city just being pushed around....rob peter....to pay 19p....love the idea.
Teachers Union endorses convicted cop-killer Mumia Abu Jamal
During the Wisconsin protests the unions were all about teachers, firefighters, and most importantly police officers. Sadly, as soon as that battle seemed over the unions started to show their true colors once again. The AFL-CIO and the California Teachers Union have now come out and endorsed Mumia Abu Jamal, who shot and killed Officer Daniel Faulkner, at point blank range in December of 1981. Glenn gave his reaction on radio this morning.
“I remember when all the stuff was happening in Wisconsin with the teachers unions and some of the police unions were able to show their solidarity. It’s interesting how the teachers are repaying that,” Stu said.
“Police officers, I am begging you. Teachers, I am begging you. Firemen, I am begging you. This is why you don’t get in bed with some of the [unions],” Glenn said. “Teachers in California, is this who you are?”
Some union members will likely claim the resolution is a meaningless piece of paper, but Glenn said “You now have a resolution from your union saying that you stand behind the release of a cop killer, Mumia Abu Jamal, and you have relabeled him cop killer to journalist.”
Glenn warned that unions like the California Teachers Union are “in bed with radicals and communists, and you cannot stand next to them. If you don’t rat them out of your own union, you become part of the problem.”
Check out this doozie of a quote from 21st Ward Alderwhore Howard Brookins, chairman of the City Council's black caucus.
This is lifted right from the Trib's website:
"AFRICAN AMERICAN AND HISPANIC FAMILIES IN THIS CITY NEED THE SCHOOLS OPEN."
What exactly does Brookins mean by this statement?
Is Brookins saying Caucasian families can somehow do without their schools being open? That whites are somehow less inconvenienced by a strike?
If Brookins is saying that African American and Hispanic families will be effected differently than Caucasian families during the strike, I'd sure like to know in what capacity.
Or is Brookins' statement a tacit admission of something larger? That the absence of what little structure some "angels" of particular demographics actually absorb in school may have negative results?
Like maybe more time not in school means more time on the streets means greater probability of becoming a victim? Or would more time in the company (I won't use the word "care") of deadbeat parent(s) be of greater detriment?
Please explain the 'logic' behind your statement, Alderman Brookins. Because if the shoe were on the other foot, every swinging dick of color from Jesse on down would be demanding an explanation.
Any of the contingency of cowards that populate the media care to bounce this off Brookins?
Didn't think so.
Rahm hasn't raised the drama level of this crisis high enough yet for him to put on his cape and swoop down to save the day.
Rahm says 'this is a strike of choice" and he's right although the intent to demonize the teachers is off the mark.
The CTU is not the CPD and will strike. It remains to be seen the outcome of trying to pit the "Chartered schools" against the public schools..we'll find out shortly.
Me thinks it's a sad day for you Rahm. After all this has got to be cutting into your Obama Super Pac corporate campaign donating fun raising time eh?
That union leader better be on the lookout for any packages containing dead fish....
Check out how disturbing Rahm really is
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/kenzo-shibata/the-battle-of-chicago-tea_b_1812729.html
What color uniforms will the school officers wear?
OT
Dear CPD bosses,
I was just wondering why gang teams are wearing black BDU's for the Mexican independence but not for the Bud Billiken parade. Just wondering what kind of message your trying to send?
9/09/2012 11:41:00 AM
Message: ICE.
Bud Billiken you can't wear black cause the reverends say it is too scary and intimidating. The officers in Blue appear to be the "usual pushovers". Doesn't matter what color you wear for Mezikin Independence, the law abiding will be minimal and money making will be most important as it is with the south side Irish Parade and Lollapalooza.
when did CPS start being a food distributor for children ? if teachers strike schools will open for breakfast and lunch so the kids can eat . WTF , I thought schools were for kids to learn , not fed breakfast , luch and a snack . It must be parents can't take care of their kids or won't .
9/09/2012 07:36:00 PM
Parents already get LINK cards to feed the kids. They can't be to busy at work to cook, or they would have money to feed their own kids. This is about a CLOUT heavy contract with CPS who still wants their money.
Go teachers! Stick it to that half pint, nine fingered fuck head! I almost got sick watching him try to spin this against you all on the news last night. Stand up to that communist dictator. Know we have your back!
Im embarassed to live in this pathetic city
Anonymous said...
Mcliar also said that there will be no admin officers inside tomorrow. So go and pay a visit to your commanders office tomorrow during the day and wave to the ten or so full duty po's that are in there and make Gary a liar for the umpteenth time.
9/10/2012 12:14:00 AM
I snorted my coffee when I saw him say that on the news--yeah right!!!! Uh huh. The proof is in the pudding--or something like that, you know what I mean.
rahm wants to bust all city unions starting with the teachers.
The CTU is doing what the CPD and the CFD wish they could do.
FUCK YOU RAHM!
These scholars cause less trouble when theyre out of school than when they're in school. Keep em our.
How embarrassed the TYRANT Rahm Emmanuel must feel this morning.
The strike is world news. Rahm the UNION BUSTER was caught!
OT:
www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-campaign-police-deathbre88902j-20120909,0,1410577.story
Florida police officer escorting Obama motorcade crashes, dies
By Kevin Gray and Jeff Mason
Reuters
9:17 PM CDT, September 9, 2012
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A Florida police officer involved in setting up security for U.S. President Barack Obama's motorcade was killed on Sunday after his motorcycle was hit by a pickup truck.
Palm Beach County Sheriff's spokeswoman Teri Barbera said the officer was entering a major roadway when he was hit by a Ford F-150 truck.
The officer was part of the security team responsible for setting up a rolling roadblock for the president's motorcade, Barbera said.
The officer was taken to a local hospital, where he died.
White House spokesman Jay Carney said the accident happened ahead of the president's motorcade and no other vehicles were involved. An ambulance that was part of the motorcade was released immediately to assist on the scene, he said.
Carney said the president had been informed of the incident.
"His thoughts and prayers are with the officer's family," Carney told reporters on Air Force One. Obama was in Florida for a two-day campaign bus trip.
The identity of the officer was not immediately released.
where do they come up with 16 percent in raises over 5 years--- last night I heard 3 percent this year followed by 2 percent a year for the next 4 years, that comes out to 11 percent over 5 years--- now take away the 4 percent they took from them last year and you get 7 percent over 5 years, WOOOPEEE--- it also involves a lot more than just pay--- all these high priced labor lawyers employed by the board couldn't come to a resolution after 100 meetings and rahmbonious calls it a mistake to strike---- the mistake was made by him when he tried to bully the teachers around and break the union....
This city is done. Crime is through the roof, no schools, high unemployment, and a mayor who skirts the real issues. We have officially reached Detroits level of stupidity.
this should be a learning lesson for those who think you can negotiate like gentleman. rahm plays hard ball, he will do his best to discredit the teachers union. needless to say the media will do his dirty work, welcome to our world.
lewis for mayor...she will kick rahm little ass..
Karen Lewis for Mayor of Chicago
Looks like Karen Lewis just paid rahmballena back for disrespecting her by using F bombs at her , good for you Karen , if a Police Officer or teacher directed the F bomb at ballerina boys wife he would have them fired
teachers have more guts then cpd
Can we pleeeeeeeeeease replace mike shields w Karen Lewis. Of at least send him to her office for dome training.
Bring out your calculator now punch in the $25,000,000.00 that the city just found to fund a day care style program for the kiddies locked out due to the teachers strike.
Add that to the 55 million for Maggie Daley Park,190 million for bicycle lanes, 200+ million for Malcolm X College rehab, then ask yourself...
"Self, how much money has the 'broke' city found to put into the police, fire and teacher pensions as required by law?"
I tell you what the teachers sure get the best contracts. A 16% raise wow! Last time we got that it had to be 3 contracts ago and probably will never see it again. I support the teachers, but they hold all the power and will drain the $$$$ wells and leave the police and fire with nothing. becarefull guys I could see Rahm firing all of you and starting from scratch.
9/10/2012 12:42:00 AM
Shut the fuck up, city hall asshole. There's plenty of money when they want to spend it, and salaries and benefits pale in comparison to the contracts they piss away on the connected and families of the connected. Quit trying to split us apart. IT"S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!
LOSER Mayor Rahm Emanual wants to come across like he's all about the kids. Nevertheless for RAHM, it's NOT ABOUT THE KIDS IT'S ABOUT THE MONEY.
For Rahm it's about the money, money, money and if you don't give it to him and Obama then you are dead, dead, dead. Hey, you've seen the clips from his victory dinners?
Think I'm joking?
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via NPR...
Words Wealthy Democratic Donors Should Get Used To: 'It's Me, Rahm'
"...Also instructive is how Emanuel in the past has explained how big a factor money is in political campaigns. From the book The Thumpin' by journalist Naftali Bendavid, the story of the Democrats' 2006 takeover of the House spearheaded by then-Rep. Emanuel:
" 'The first third of your campaign is money, money, money,' Emanuel once told a group of staffers. 'The second third is money, money and press. And the last third is votes, press and money.' "
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/09/07/160770861/words-wealthy-democratic-donors-should-get-used-to-its-me-rahm
GOT IT?
Money, money, money but not when it comes to the police and security of the citizens in this city. Not when it comes to the schools, not when it comes to education, not when it comes to the future of our children and future of the people of this city.
No it's about corporate campaign money and campaign parties for corporations and him.
Why wouldn't Rahm want the best of the best when it comes to education if he's all about the kids?
Even if you have no children yourself education represents our future standards of living here. Do you think we'll have the same standard of living with a bunch of dropouts working for Walmart and slinging burgers. Ya think that's going to pay for city services, the taxes from those wages? Are those kids going to have disposable income to invest in the stocks and bonds that you hold in retirement and savings accounts bidding them higher. I think not.
HEll NAW!
I don't think Rahm wants our kids to have the best of the best when it comes to schools. It will eff-up the advantage that his kids have going to the private school. Why would he want to screw that up?
Also, having the best of the best when it comes to schools means that we would also have the best and brightest workforce.
That's something that would be desirable to businesses however it may just put a dagger in the corporate tax break/campaign donation extortion circle jerk that goes on year after year because we would have something else to offer business than tax breaks. The best educated workforce around!
Obama has got to go and needs to take Rahm and his supporters in office with him. They are about corporations not about the people. They are about the money but not money for us. It's for them.
Millions if not billions of dollars wasted not to mention the time to raise it and where does it all go and what does it accomplish?
Corporations would rather spend money giving donations to politicians to buy advertising to spread lies and half truths about the other party then to pay their fair share of taxes and support our schools, our security, and our futures. Look at the time wasted, the years wasted that once a politician is elected that they spend doing even more fundraising. What do we gain from it?
GET MONEY OUT OF POLITICS -- ALSO VOTE THESE CLOWNS OUT! Republicans or Democrats. We don't just want to change which party is getting the donations GET IT OUT.
Demonize our CPS teachers Rahm so your children can maintain their private school advantage. Hoo-ray for me and eff all of you that's the message I receive.
We elect these people for four years and it's like three years are spent doing more campaign fund raising?! WTF is that?
"...working with CPS to ensure that rival gang members are not put into the same places,” McCarthy said
Wait a second, if you have identified students as being GANG members how about EXPELLING them from the goddamned schools? Instead of making accomodations
Shouldn't schools be a gang-free zone? WTF
This eff'ed up City is like an alternate universe where up is down, bad is good, etc
Unbelievable!
9/10/2012 01:34:00 AM
Didn't you catch the Chicago Magazine article about how the gang leaders called all of the politicians to a meeting to see which ones would support them the most for them getting out the vote? Grow up. This town is bought and sold by criminals from street gangs on up to the Outfit and their political stooges.
Parents already get LINK cards to feed the kids. They can't be to busy at work to cook, or they would have money to feed their own kids. This is about a CLOUT heavy contract with CPS who still wants their money.
Think about the CLOUT Irish family who holds the contracts on milk and other items of sustenance for the kids...friends of da former mayor, of course!
I tell you what the teachers sure get the best contracts. A 16% raise wow! Last time we got that it had to be 3 contracts ago and probably will never see it again. I support the teachers, but they hold all the power and will drain the $$$$ wells and leave the police and fire with nothing. becarefull guys I could see Rahm firing all of you and starting from scratch.
9/10/2012 12:42:00 AM
deep thoughts, from a shallow pond.
Prince RAHM has met his match! Queen Karen LEWIS runs this shit now!! You go girl!!!
Unlike the CPD, the school teachers have the leverage of a strike. If only FOP was that blessed.
9/10/2012 01:22:00 AM
if only the FOP was blessed with members who stick together.
Support our teachers!
make cease fire earn their money send to school to watch the kids. you can be sure they will have some good stories to tell the kids. their not union rahm can make them do whatever he wants.
Read the comments on the CBS link. People are starting to wake up. It looks as if when you get away from the propaganda arm of the chicago socialist party and a free press is at work, people don't buy into the communist ideology. I have faith in America again.
I went to CPS schools but I think I can count. Last night when talking about the CTU raises on CH7 they said they would get a 4 year contract with 3% the first year and 2% for the next 3 years for a total of 16%. But isn't that 9% where's the other 7%. Do they get shiftdiff or something else?
Our only hope for real change is for a Non-Corrupt voices of reason to rise out of this mess, and confront Emanuel for what he is and represents. Our UNIONS need to stand together for once.
Brilliant city made the "Child First" site for Little Village Lawndale High School -- wait for it -- Farragut. Maybe that was so the Latin Kings and Two Six can finally kill each other off and save us the $$$ on education and jail.
Anonymous said...
Mcliar also said that there will be no admin officers inside tomorrow. So go and pay a visit to your commanders office tomorrow during the day and wave to the ten or so full duty po's that are in there and make Gary a liar for the umpteenth time.
9/10/2012 12:14:00 AM
Wow, you were right!
Tat tear drop on left eye, please report to room 101 & tat tear drop right eye, please report to room 203. You will have different recess times. We love our Welcome city!
Heard a brilliant statement on the radio this morning. Woman called in and suggested all parents of CPS students drop off their children at rahm's house.
Now watch rahm lock them out & hire scabs from the masses of un/underemployed across the U.S. In this economic environment he can reduce the reqirements and cut the pay in half. CPS has a huge turnover rate due to the fact that they are babysitters/prison guards instead of teachers. This causes the best & brightest to leave in short order for a place they can actually teach.
Remember, they voted for him, we did not.
Our turn is coming.
Get rid of the damn unions. Quit feeding the kids on taxpayer dime. Give teachers authority to crack heads to make the little b....s lean. I think we're all sick and tired of the tragedy of socialism.
The last time CPS went on strike only the District Schools were open for administration personel. Officers were assigned to these schools only. Grammar schools were open for a couple of hours in the morning just to feed the children. Only the lunchroom was open and it didn't matter if that was your school. Children would go to the closest school to thier house. No Officer's were assigned to those locations but were asked to do a premise check once a day. High School's were not open. I know because I worked it.
Anyone have a murder count for September? Just want to make sure the coming increase isn't labeled as a decrease, or a decrease in the increase, or any other horse shit.
Karen Lewis on Rahm Emanuel: “I think the whole idea of an imperial mayoralty where you wave a magic wand or cuss someone out and things happen is untenable.”
Why all the extra manpower and hours? Isn't this just like anyother day on the south and west sides? Most of these angels don't go to school anyway.
off topic: Like I said these guys on mayors detail get taking care of for some reason, must be nice. A beat car has to give them a relief, and they are there for and hour up to 2 and half hours and then these guys go check out the bars and get in the middle of shit and have to call for cars. What a joke, keep up your great work on mayors detail.
I support the teachers. Good for them. I hope they stick it out and they get what they want. Srew the city and their strike plans. Did not hear once from that lil shit mayor(typical politician) about parents being involved with their children while teachers strike. It looks like as usual we(CPD) are gonna have to spend extra man hours babysitting these shit heads because it all starts from home and EDUCATION. Lets see if our union will stand up and fight like the teachers union.
This strike won't be good for the city's murder rate.
I think the teachers should take what the city is offering with one caveat...Rahm must leave office. Now Rahm cares about the children and the teachers strike is affecting the children. How can he say no to helping the children???
I support the teachers 100% in this. I hope they don't think that the CPD is supporting Rahm if we are detailed out to some of the marches
Thanks to all the cpd officers who drove by, honked, used their sirens or otherwise supported teachers today. We could not do our jobs without you! Hope we can return the favor one day, too!
THANK YOU!
There is no 16% raise. Rahm can't count! 3+2+2+2 does not equal 16. THEY ARE LYING. Right into the faces of the citizens because he knows no one will check it. Chicago PD thank you for all your support!!!!
The two remaining issues is Merit evaluations and "wellness checks"from the City of Chicago. Sorry, not going to Walgreens or Animal control (yes that is one of the sites for the 'biometric screenings") for Emanuel to check in on my health. That is a direct violation of HIPAA.
If Emanuel caves to the teachers, it will be on the backs of Police and Fire Contracts.
Channnel 9 TV just now, press conference, Mayor talking and talking, whole bunch of [all Hispanic] children positioned behind him, City flag behind that.
What kind of poor excuse for a human being uses children for stage props?
Probably the same kind who puts red political T-shirts on them and sends them out the door to school.
Red signs in people's lawns, "We demand smaller class sizes!" -- but how many kids they got in there? Half the family has "difficulties with their immigration status" but they keep coming and coming, demanding and demanding, and someone else keeps paying and paying.
Lewis says that test scores are absolutely unacceptable means of gauging teacher performance...
She is a trip -- she put her hair up neatly and put on a power suit instead of the old flour sacks, and suddenly she's a hero to a lot of the same people who hated the intense nannyism. "She's humiliating Rahm."
The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend here -- Lewis and the crew will raise your property taxes until you strangle, in the name of endless, bottomless ed-u-ca-tion.
A school district near here is also going up -- the teachers there are outraged that new hires don't make as much as veteran teachers, and want that fixed instantly.
This is a great crisis for Emanuel to use, takes the cameras off the homicides.
Can't say I much care for either side here. Ugly, ugly.
Maybe we should have the lil childrens free dinner also. We already give them free clothes, rent, phones, computers, back packs etc. Whatever we don't give them they form flash mobs and steal it anyway. And you wonder why they never want to get off welfare.
Vote Democratic, Komrade.
Aren't all strikes a "strike of choice" plus the 16% raise includes steps. Not all teachers get this so it is an average. Some will make more and some less. Also take away 4 percent from last year and you get 3% a year over 4 years average.
Anonymous said...
when did CPS start being a food distributor for children ? if teachers strike schools will open for breakfast and lunch so the kids can eat . WTF , I thought schools were for kids to learn , not fed breakfast , luch and a snack . It must be parents can't take care of their kids or won't .
9/09/2012 07:36:00 PM
more than 80 percent of chicago public school students are on the federal lunch program. 1 out of every 8 kids DOES NOT QUALIFY for subsized lunch.
Being a husband of a teacher I admit I'm a little biased, I know wife loves being a teacher and doesn't do it for the money.
I visited her at school a couple weeks ago and couldn't believe when I saw 40 kids in one classroom. How are you supposed to teach in those conditions?
There are classrooms that are empty because the city refuses to hire more teachers. They can make these class sizes smaller simply by utilizing these extra classrooms and hiring more teachers to fill these rooms.
Wouldn't that be better for the children? Isn't that what the city claims it wants?
Here Goes More Middle-Class Taxpayers Dollars down the drain.. Obamaland is a vacuum that sucks all money awayfrom Taxpayers, somehow or another.
When does NATO start? Everyone be safe out there
Walked with the teachers at Garvey today. This outcome will set the tone for all of us, so the little dictator needs to be made aware that he works for us, the taxpayers!
A main sticking point seems to be so-called teacher evaluation. It's probably worded that unless you transform every ghetto chil' into a brainaic, you the teacher shall be fired. Let's see Professor Emanuel turn each of these hoodrats into geniuses!
Free rides on CTA, parks and libraries opening up as free city-funded day care...
Lewis is trumpeting for further armies of "social workers," "nursing aides," etc. to be recruited into the schools...
...of course as someone mentioned the schools are cafeterias for two meals a day, so the serving lines are open...
When I went through CPS, half-pint cartons of milk were sold at lunchtime. Plain milk was about three cents, chocolate milk was four cents. That was it. It was assumed that parents fed the kids breakfast and made them a lunch to take to school.
I constantly see these huge "blended families," dozens living in a house, a pool of automobiles available, multiple "benefits" coming in, bling, clothes, shoes, smartphones, "nail art," satellite dishes, neighborhood banquet halls constantly busy with huge, expensive catered parties, many people with unlimited free time - and yet no one can be found to mind the kids?
"AFRICAN AMERICAN AND HISPANIC FAMILIES IN THIS CITY NEED THE SCHOOLS OPEN." -- Ald. Howard Brookins, 21st Ward. Is there anything else you need? "Dream Act," what?
Don't be shy.
This is unreal. It's filling the whole TV. A nation of shrill marchers and chanters.
Weirdest of all -- "EXTEND THE SCHOOL DAY SO KIDS CAN HAVE RECESS!" Everyone keeps blowing about "recess!"
!@#$%^
To put this in perspective -- September 11, 2001.
Now THERE was a "crisis."
This "experiment" here has only been going a few hundred years. Been watching some Chinese TV documentaries, one fabulous bronze vessel with inscriptions chronicling the rise and fall of thirteen kings -- it was buried to hide it from looters during a "decline," and not unearthed until a few years ago...
Take the long view.
"...rob peter....to pay 19p..."
--9/10/2012 01:41:00 AM
Enter this one for "Comment Of The Year!"
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That union leader better be on the lookout for any packages containing dead fish....
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Maybe it was Karen Lewis who dropped off the tomatoes on Rahm's doorstep?
Hoo Rah for the teachers. After that Rahm will be after the nut sacks of the fire and cop unions. Lets pray and hope the teachers will get to Rahms nut sack first.
WHAT SCHOOL STRIKE RIGHT?
Chicago Mayor's Kids' School Remains Open
Let me ask you something.
If you have 3 kids and you're paying $25K per year tuition for each kid $75K/year total WHY would you want to work against that advantage that you have made for them by making the Chicago Public Schools even a tad bit better - more competitive - closer to a standard that you might find in that private school?
This is like a conflict of interest right? Rahm don't care about CPS.
Rahm moved his kids to private school because he knew this "strike of choice " was inevitable.
Also where does he get off on his speech talking about "..OUR children's schools" as though his kids are being affected by the strike?!
Tuition of $25K/yr for grade school.
More money that a minimum wage earner makes all year. More money than those precious welding jobs that the community college is going to fill the so-called skill shortage with. HA! You're going to sit there and talk about "our schools" like YOU are affected and are part of the middle class fight.
HIT THE ROAD JACK!.
SCC the teachers going on strike to receive better benefits should be supported by all P.O.'s They strike because they are allowed to do so...numerous teachers have told me they were admonished by P.O.'s either detailed to a picket line or those inconvenienced by their children not being able to attend school. While you are dropping your kid off at government funded "babysitting camps" think to yourself I should have prepared alternate plans in case of a strike. Here is a novel idea drop a slip and spend a beautiful day with your kids. It is no wonder we lose more and more support from the tax paying citizens when we have a few idiots that ruin it for all of us. Buy union and support unions because we are a union.
I fully support the teachers, California is a world of it's own.
This is world wide news and the little bully dancer is looking not so bright. I applaud the solidarity of the teachers. And to all the BS about where the kids will go, where were they in June, July & August?? It is screamingly obvious that the racoon gives 2 shits about the children.
Now lets all go to Chick-fil-a for dinner.
This I'm from a bird at Revenue....all non-CPS school zones (aka: Private/religious) are to be enforced only by CPD for the time restriction violation. All CPS school zones to be patrolled , and all violations except for the time restriction are to be enforced by revenue PEAs regardless of whose car it is or if it happens to have an M Plate.
Tip from that guy on a bike. Saw him today out front of Rahman house ticketing exp plate vehicle
Well isn't this interesting?
Wonder what's going to be the outcome of that almighty United Airlines that moved from Elk Grove to Chicago?
"On the eve of the eleventh anniversary of the attack on the World Trade Center, a federal judge has determined that two of the airline companies involved in the tragedy must stand trial to face charges of negligence.
US District Judge Alvin Hellerstein ruled last week that AMR Corp.'s American Airlines and United Continental Holdings Inc. must appear in court to be tried over accusations that inattention on part of the companies contributed to the terrorist attacks that left around 3,000 Americans dead on September 11, 2001. Both American and United jets were hijacked by terrorists on 9/11, who then piloted the planes into the Twin Towers, creating the largest assault on American soil since World War 2"
more >> http://rt.com/usa/news/negligence-911-trial-judge-797/
Conspiracy theorist may conclude that the reason for UAL's move to Chicago may somehow tied to the potential outcome of this trial don't you think?
Naah that's all tin foil hat stuff.
On the other hand if the trial isn't rigged who knows what the damages will be? Perhaps another taxpayer bailout eh? Another crisis that we can use and not let go to waste.
9/09/2012 07:36:00 PM
Parents already get LINK cards to feed the kids. They can't be to busy at work to cook, or they would have money to feed their own kids. This is about a CLOUT heavy contract with CPS who still wants their money.
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Oh really? Try it. working 40 hours at the WalMart jobs Rahm, Quinn, and Obama have created for you and check back here and tell us all how it's going.
Min-wage poverty scales JAY OH BEES as Quinn calls them speaking down to his constituents
If the mayor can blow $55 million on a Maggie Daley amusement park for the elites they can surely feed ANY kid that is hungry for whatever reason.
U.S. Department of Education: 79% of Chicago 8th Graders Not Proficient in Reading
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Thus, 80 percent of Chicago public school 8th graders were not grade-level proficient in math. According to the U.S. Department of Education, this included 40 percent who rated “basic” in math and 40 percent who rated “below basic.”
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Ok, why do the teachers deserve a raise when the product they produce is way below average of other large cities? Reward them for these abysmal results? Only in Chicano, Il
(CNSNews.com) - Seventy-nine percent of the 8th graders in the Chicago Public Schools are not grade-level proficient in reading, according to the U.S. Department of Education, and 80 percent are not grade-level proficient in math. Thanks cooter
RAHM'S KIDS $25,000 A Yr School
He only cares if you Vote Ommma
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/chicago-mayors-kids-school-remains-open_652113.html
Anonymous said...
when did CPS start being a food distributor for children ? if teachers strike schools will open for breakfast and lunch so the kids can eat . WTF , I thought schools were for kids to learn , not fed breakfast , luch and a snack . It must be parents can't take care of their kids or won't .
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Welp, when you have a seven year old kid with an eighteen year old single mom whatcha think? Think we'll get out of this welfare circle jerk by cutting off the kids lunch or breakfast?
Try learning something on an empty gut.
tell you what the teachers sure get the best contracts. A 16% raise wow! Last time we got that it had to be 3 contracts ago and probably will never see it again. I support the teachers, but they hold all the power and will drain the $$$$ wells and leave the police and fire with nothing. becarefull guys I could see Rahm firing all of you and starting from scratch.
Let's see, 3% first year, 2% each of next 3 years adds up to 16%? Must have graduated from CPS. Hey, douchebag, get head out of ass. Why don't they start firing inept administrators and principals (as well as aldercreatures)? Save a ton of money there.
Teachers who strike consider this.
Chicago tops nation in travel tax burden. For an average visit to downtown Chicago, a traveler will pay about $40.31 in combined taxes per day, a study finds. Three Florida cities tied for lowest cost.
See if you repeat those words when your taxes go up! Dummy.
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I've got to give kudos to CTU
President Karen Lewis. She's living proof that good looks are totally measningless to strong leadership. She's one stand-up lady that won't tolerate Emanuel's bullshit.
Unlike the CPD, the school teachers have the leverage of a strike. If only FOP was that blessed.
"CTU President Karen Lewis...strong leadership...stand-up..."
--9/10/2012 01:22:00 AM
Leadership in what direction? Stand up for what? At whose expense?
"Education" seems to be a bottomless, limitless pit -- it's like pouring water on the desert. There is NEVER enough money, and it must be given and given and given without any proof of results. "You can't use test scores!"
Be careful there. If something simple and easily observable like students' public behavior was to be used as a standard, the Chicago Public Schools would have been "defunded" twenty or thirty years ago -- as unable to reverse the damage largely done at home by crazy/negligent/absent/actively-criminal parents, and therefore as practically useless.
Poor-to-negative results = we need more money.
THERE IS A LIMIT.
The population of this country has DOUBLED since I was born, the birthrates of the cemented-in-place eternal "needy" are exploding, and the immigration floodgates are jammed open, wider and wider every day.
We are drowning.
"Support our teachers?"
Well, they certainly aren't the union members. They quit their jobs. Soon dedicated professional teachers who actually want to educate will bypass the picket lines and dare to actually teach. Then there will be teachers to support.
Anonymous said...
I tell you what the teachers sure get the best contracts. A 16% raise wow! Last time we got that it had to be 3 contracts ago and probably will never see it again. I support the teachers, but they hold all the power and will drain the $$$$ wells and leave the police and fire with nothing. becarefull guys I could see Rahm firing all of you and starting from scratch.
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Where's this 16% number coming from and how can we trust it knowing how the crime stats numbers are produced?
Wake the hell up. It makes a nice sound bite and for those that it fits there agendas it makes nice propaganda. However if we believe it all without the back up then just buy the crime stats numbers too. Hey crime is down what's CPD whining about. They have no reason to lie right?
Let me show you something my friend. Each and every month we've been hearing all about Jobs being created in Illinois and added but guess what?
Look at the BLS.GOV 's own stats instead of waiting for the media to feed specific portions to you.
In Feb. 2012 the bls reports Illinois had 5,990.6 thousand people employed. Fast forward to 5,987.1 thousand jobs
Got that??
We have 3,500 less jobs than we had six months ago. After all those so-called NEW jobs. Give me an eff-ing break.
see it for yourself here
Still not convinced. Now look at the historical data on that BLS page for the number of people employed and you'll see that Illinois had more people employed in 1998!! That's right NOT A SINGLE NET NEW JOB FOR AT LEAST 14 YEARS and we have politicians talking "as the economic recovery continues"
What do you supposed happened to the people graduating school and supposedly joining the workforce over the last 14 years?
I can tell you one thing. Illinois added about another 20,000 to the food stamp caseloads on the latest report at frac.org
That's the problem with the politicians numbers. The ones that we like. we choose not to challenge and they all need to be challenged.
I'm not buying the 16% number just like I'm not buying the crime is down numbers.
Anonymous said...
I've got to give kudos to CTU President Karen Lewis. She's living proof that good looks are totally measningless to strong leadership. She's one stand-up lady that won't tolerate Emanuel's bullshit.
Unlike the CPD, the school teachers have the leverage of a strike. If only FOP was that blessed.
9/10/2012 01:22:00 AM
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Nice backhanded compliment that is illustrative of the problems with out election process.
You didn't happen to see the DNC and WHO Obama was wearing that night did ya?
"I visited her at school a couple weeks ago and couldn't believe when I saw 40 kids in one classroom. How are you supposed to teach in those conditions?"
--9/10/2012 12:38:00 PM
It worked just fine when I went through CPS.
Of course, we didn't have "conditions" then. The teacher did not need a whip and a chair.
That might have helped.
Oh -- there was a pole with a hook on it to open the windows at the top on hot days.
...and I went K-through-8 without ONCE seeing a Chicago police officer at our school.
What can I tell you?
Can Obama put an end to the Teacher's strike via Executive Order? Anyone KNOW?????
Le Petite Tyrant had a news conference on the resumption of contract negotiation with the teachers. He literally surrounded himself with children while speaking to the press.
Stranger Danger
We did what every working person would like to do this morning
We went out on strike. Anybody who is under the impression this is for
Greed is wrong. We went for pride in ourselves and our community.
79 th and Pulaski was awash in red shirted people carrying white signs
for a block in either direction. The glorious sounds of semi air horns
cars honking and first responders sirens filled the air as people gave us a thumbs
up.
This strike will send a message right to Washington this town belongs To all people of good cheer .Keep the ball rolling.
Anonymous said...
I went to CPS schools but I think I can count. Last night when talking about the CTU raises on CH7 they said they would get a 4 year contract with 3% the first year and 2% for the next 3 years for a total of 16%. But isn't that 9% where's the other 7%. Do they get shiftdiff or something else?
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I think that the fun with numbers game they are playing here is tied to the teachers pensions and goes like this.
The teachers as I understand it have a 9% contribution to there pension fund per year.
It's also said that the teachers contribute 2% of that and that the city contributes the other 7%.
So it looks like the city is adding their portion of the pension payment to the teachers raises.
The teachers are not getting a 16% raise in take home pay. They will get 9% after four years. Get it? The rest is money going into the pension plan.
But of course if you are going to play that game. Then when the teachers take home pay increase is only 9% and we subtract out the portion that the teachers contribute to their pensions -- then the teachers will only see a 7% increase in their purchasing power over 4 years when all is said and done.
"...unable to reverse the damage largely done at home by crazy/negligent/absent/actively-criminal parents..."
--9/10/2012 02:45:00 PM
...and those parents were largely state-raised, indoctrinated one way or another by the very same schools and housing projects and media and overall destructive social engineering of the "Great Society" themselves.
What you're seeing today IS THE DESIRED RESULTS -- streets so dangerous you can't use half the city, while vast fortunes are extracted from the chaos.
Parents need to be parents. Stop blaming the teachers for your 7 shorties that are failing school.
"Welp, when you have a seven year old kid with an eighteen year old single mom whatcha think? Think we'll get out of this welfare circle jerk by cutting off the kids lunch or breakfast?
"Try learning something on an empty gut."
--9/10/2012 02:28:00 PM
You never had an "empty gut" in your life -- and this attempted-folksy writing of yours is enough to make someone vomit.
Anonymous said...
off topic: Like I said these guys on mayors detail get taking care of for some reason, must be nice. A beat car has to give them a relief, and they are there for and hour up to 2 and half hours and then these guys go check out the bars and get in the middle of shit and have to call for cars. What a joke, keep up your great work on mayors detail.
9/10/2012 11:03:00 AM
Ya What the fuck, I thought they only get a bathroom break? Downing a beat car for their bullshit nonsense?? Bosses don't care I guess, and they do as they please. Lol a joke..
The average union teacher makes $76k + benefits and work 9 months a year. 58% of the kids drop out and 79% of 8th graders can't read proficiently. Fire them all and hire competent teachers who care about teaching.
Anonymous said...
Mcliar also said that there will be no admin officers inside tomorrow. So go and pay a visit to your commanders office tomorrow during the day and wave to the ten or so full duty po's that are in there and make Gary a liar for the umpteenth time.
9/10/2012 12:14:00 AM
I snorted my coffee when I saw him say that on the news--yeah right!!!! Uh huh. The proof is in the pudding--or something like that, you know what I mean.
His nose was growing as he was saying it. I'll bet he had his fingers and toes crossed as he spewed these lies.
My district had the usual full duty, no time on the job , females hiding out in the commanders office today.
It's tough work splitting shifts and trying to remember if it's your turn to forget to come to work. If they had to go out on the mean streets how could they constantly play on Facebook? They might even break a nail out there.
I know we can't strike, but if 30% of the Dept took Leave of Absence it might get someone's attention.
go for it, teachers!......
its not a 16 % raise its 9%.
don't be gullible.
You are the next target on RAHMS reforms.
The CTU completed its first day of their strike, how much input did The Mayor give? Not much I suppose, he's
off for a Fundraiser for Obunion tonight.
An Elected Sock monkey, whose mouth is normally sewn shut, captured the moment by saying "...it's only a matter of two minor issues, they didn't need to strike..."
(No quibble for a $55 million park make over.)
We all know The Mayor would weasel anything away for a handshake agreement, like he done in the past.
CTU isn't falling for the same old BS from City Hall.
And we shouldn't either.
Liars and bullies - that was the perfect description.
The City has supposedly offered the teachers a 16% raise over 4 years beginning the first year with a 3% raise and 2% raises for each of the following 3 years. Assume a school principal is currently being paid exactly $100,000.00 per year. My calculations indicate that it would only be a total (compounded annually) raise of 9.3% over the 4 years: My calculations follow:
Current Pay = $100,000.00
Year 1 (3%) = $103,000.00
Year 2 (2%) = $105,060.00
Year 3 (2%) = $107,161.20
Year 4 (2%) = $109,304.42
How did the CPS calculate a 16% raise over 4 years?
Anonymous said...
The average union teacher makes $76k + benefits and work 9 months a year. 58% of the kids drop out and 79% of 8th graders can't read proficiently. Fire them all and hire competent teachers who care about teaching.
9/10/2012 03:55:00 PM
Blame the teachers, not the parents? What about poverty level students with learning disabilities? Can we blame beat officers for crime on their beat? Get real and learn that parents must be involved in the education of their children. BTW when was the last time you were in a public school classroom?
An earlier poster mentioned something about a grievance for detailing people to other districts to help with the schools----ie a third P.O. at some schools.
Here is the latest ruling from Management and Labor Affairs concerning out of district details, based on personal experience----if you report to your district to pick up a radio abd a car, it is an assignment and not a detail, hence there is no OT, and no seniority rules apply.
Essentially, the department feels if you are required to stop at your district first, they can send anyone anywhere
@ 03:23:00 PM
Heh... Hitler and Stalin, both undersized dictators, also loved taking propaganda pictures surrounded by children.
What would give anyone the impression Rahm al Ghoul is any different?
Well... Rahm doesn't have access to military forces yet...
These lefty loon supporters of his will give him the opportunity in 2016...
Was that racist?
Take the children out of the dysfunctional homes and put them in Boot Camps. After a year or two of discipline and learning they may be saved. If not, get ready for new flash mobs of thugs.
your taxes are going up because of the misuse of money any the welfare rats and immigrants. when was the last time taxes went down,you can pay teacher nothing and still taxes will go up its chicago.
Karen Lewis has chunks of guys like Tiny Dancer in her stool!
I must say the CTU has solidarity.
I am downtwon now and see how the loop is locked down with mild manner teachers protesting.
Hey FOP take note!
It is also leading on the National News.....
Yes but where are 9.5's kids at?
Latin School thats where..
One year tuition for Rahm's kids at U of C Lab School-$25,000 each. Salaries of 4 full duty police officers to drive them to school and back-$350,000 per year. The cost of operating two unmarked squad cars -$110,000 per year. Rahm's knowledge of the CPS and the problems facing teachers-PRICELESS!!!
Help them! Walk the line and bring them refreshments while off-duty.
The average union teacher makes $76k + benefits and work 9 months a year. 58% of the kids drop out and 79% of 8th graders can't read proficiently. Fire them all and hire competent teachers who care about teaching.
9/10/2012 03:55:00 PM
Are you a troll or one of Rahm's wonder kid staffers?
Stay off the blog douchebag
to ensure that rival gang members are not put into the same places,”
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Why do we need to do that? They already go to the same school regularly. Why should the "Day Care Schools" be any different?
The mayor brought all this on himself. He acts like a dictator. Slinking around Springfield to get the required vote to strike up to 75%, his aide boasting there will never be another teacher strike in Chicago now, then taking away a 4% raise previoulsy agreed to and worked for. His actions have enraged teachers and parents. Now as he calls for "negtiations" he say's he will not bend. Good for Lewis and her teachers. Support them.
Fire them all.
It seems that unions are really taking a beating under the Democrats and Karen Lewis is the only union leader that is willing to stand up and go out on the ice for her dues paying members.Keep going Karen there are alot of union members that are not members of your union that would be proud to have you as their union rep .
Anonymous said...
The average union teacher makes $76k + benefits and work 9 months a year. 58% of the kids drop out and 79% of 8th graders can't read proficiently. Fire them all and hire competent teachers who care about teaching.
9/10/2012 03:55:00 PM
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Just where did you get these figures?
When you say, "average union teacher", do you mean a CPS teacher?
How many years of service for that $76k plus benefits?
58% of kids drop out?????
Are those 58% CPS students?
79% of eighth graders cannot read proficiently?
Again, are those CPS students?
Best double check those figures.
Bueller? Bueller? said...
Thanks to all the cpd officers who drove by, honked, used their sirens or otherwise supported teachers today. We could not do our jobs without you! Hope we can return the favor one day, too!
THANK YOU!
Yes, thank you!!! We appreciate your support!
The average union teacher makes $76k + benefits and work 9 months a year. 58% of the kids drop out and 79% of 8th graders can't read proficiently. Fire them all and hire competent teachers who care about teaching.
9/10/2012 03:55:00 PM
first fire all the incompetent politicians, which would be all of them.
then come back and talk about firing the workers.
ot:
Chicago top city in nation for taxing travelers:
http://travelkit.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/10/13782878-top-city-for-taxing-travelers-chicago?lite
What you're seeing today IS THE DESIRED RESULTS -- streets so dangerous you can't use half the city, while vast fortunes are extracted from the chaos.
9/10/2012 03:40:00 PM
i always look on the bright side.
eventually, every body dies.
Chalkie
Anonymous said...
I must say the CTU has solidarity.
I am downtwon now and see how the loop is locked down with mild manner teachers protesting.
Hey FOP take note!
It is also leading on the National News.....
9/10/2012 05:32:00 PM
This is THE WORST FOP EVER! We are a lion with no teeth! My wife and family don't even know what Shields looks like. We never hear or see him. This is the first time in my 18 years that I don't even feel like our FOP will enforce our contract. Our FOP got rid of all the best lawyers and labor guys. We should all be looking forward to getting rid of this crew and hiring a karen Louis crew.
He literally surrounded himself with children while speaking to the press.
9/10/2012 03:23:00 PM
those poor kids.
It worked just fine when I went through CPS.
Of course, we didn't have "conditions" then. The teacher did not need a whip and a chair.
That might have helped.
Oh -- there was a pole with a hook on it to open the windows at the top on hot days.
...and I went K-through-8 without ONCE seeing a Chicago police officer at our school.
What can I tell you?
9/10/2012 03:18:00 PM
you didn't have 40 per back then, buddy.
not even 30 per.
though, the whip and chair part is accurate.
I'm not buying the 16% number just like I'm not buying the crime is down numbers.
9/10/2012 02:53:00 PM
would you buy the crime is way up numbers?
i'm only asking for a dollar per purchaser.
Chalkie
Well, they certainly aren't the union members. They quit their jobs. Soon dedicated professional teachers who actually want to educate will bypass the picket lines and dare to actually teach. Then there will be teachers to support.
9/10/2012 02:49:00 PM
how would you know, since you don't have children?
Anonymous said...
The average union teacher makes $76k + benefits and work 9 months a year. 58% of the kids drop out and 79% of 8th graders can't read proficiently. Fire them all and hire competent teachers who care about teaching.
9/10/2012 03:55:00 PM
Are you serious? Take a look at the schools where both parents are involved and take an interest in their children's education. Why are these children scoring so much better than even most private schools. How do you teach a child that has absolutely no interest in learning?
Teachers can only do so much. It's like us PO's being told that your review, as well as your yearly raises are based upon the amount of crime in your district. Wake Up.
****OFF TOPIC****
ODPO Gets beaten into a Hospital in her own home, in 022. WTF!!!!!
"Again, are those CPS students?
Best double check those figures."
Yes, the stats are for CPS CTU schools. Since the story is about that I figured that was a given. See, I knew CPS grads had a reading comprehension problem.
I have always said that that scumbag rahm has always had the money ,he just does not want us to have it. He wants it for pet projects( for people from the Projects)!
04:46 What the board is saying about the 16% is what you showed with the 3,2,2,2 % raises is actually 9% but the board agreed to pay 7% into the teachers pension. Appears they think that is a raise also so if you add the 9% and the 7% is makes 16%
I actually would forgo a raise if the CPD paid our pension of 9% Wouldnt cry for the teachers because thaT 9% IS PROBABLY MORE THAN WE ARE GOING TO GET, PLUS THAT 7% PENSION PICKUP IS EVERY YEAR SO JUST WITH THAT THEY ARE GETTING AN ADDITIONAL 7% a year
Saw the Evil One on tv ... He keeps saying everything he does is for the children. What he wants is to bust the Teachers Union so he can go after all the other unions in the city. This little dictator wants to be absolute ruler of Chicago.
The Rahmulan is a little bully. I hope that Karen Lewis ends up wiping the floor with him.
Rahm surrounded by children reminded me of saddam during the 1st gulf war when he was talking to and scaring the shit of a small boy held hostage...
This is THE WORST FOP EVER! We are a lion with no teeth! My wife and family don't even know what Shields looks like. We never hear or see him. This is the first time in my 18 years that I don't even feel like our FOP will enforce our contract. Our FOP got rid of all the best lawyers and labor guys. We should all be looking forward to getting rid of this crew and hiring a karen Louis crew.
your union only as good as your membership cop are their own worst enemy..
For the person who said teachers make to much money for the amount of work they do and they should fire them all. Why don't you try doing their job before you open their mouth because clearly you have no idea how difficult their job is. And if you don't know why the failure rate is so hi, then you've clearly never worked in the ghetto to see the other elements in a child's development. Just because your child is a failure does not necessarily mean it was their teachers fault. Try looking in the mirror.
b Accountant? said...
The City has supposedly offered the teachers a 16% raise over 4 years beginning the first year with a 3% raise and 2% raises for each of the following 3 years. Assume a school principal is currently being paid exactly $100,000.00 per year. My calculations indicate that it would only be a total (compounded annually) raise of 9.3% over the 4 years: My calculations follow:
Current Pay = $100,000.00
Year 1 (3%) = $103,000.00
Year 2 (2%) = $105,060.00
Year 3 (2%) = $107,161.20
Year 4 (2%) = $109,304.42
principals are not in the union and most of them make more than that.
Just saw the teachers picketing city hall. And thought our demise is, you'd never get that many coppers together and that's why we'll get screwed
Wish we could strike! Who cares about all these little rug rat brats
you didn't have 40 per back then, buddy.
not even 30 per.
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What'a a per?
The average union teacher makes $76k + benefits and work 9 months a year. 58% of the kids drop out and 79% of 8th graders can't read proficiently. Fire them all and hire competent teachers who care about teaching.
9/10/2012 03:55:00 PM
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Granted teaching is an honorable profession and the failure of the kids in Chicago not being at the grade grade level they should be at is unfairly attributed to the teachers and not the parents, the fact is the above post is spot-on.
Rahm should fire all the teachers and require proof of citizenship for students, institute a dress code and permanently expel trouble makers.
It's never going to happen but the system is so innefficient it's going to crash.
"The trouble with socialism (unions) is eventually you run out of other peoples money" - Margaret Thatcher UK Prime Minister
Anonymous said...
The average union teacher makes $76k + benefits and work 9 months a year. 58% of the kids drop out and 79% of 8th graders can't read proficiently. Fire them all and hire competent teachers who care about teaching.
9/10/2012 03:55:00 PM
so if an offender gets arrested again, fire the cop that locked him up the first time?
Anonymous said...
I know we can't strike, but if 30% of the Dept took Leave of Absence it might get someone's attention.
9/10/2012 04:13:00 PM
You're an idiot.
Anonymous said...
The average union teacher makes $76k + benefits and work 9 months a year. 58% of the kids drop out and 79% of 8th graders can't read proficiently. Fire them all and hire competent teachers who care about teaching.
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Hilarious!
You can't put yourself in their place now can you?
Like with students from Englewood with a class of 75% gang bangers? You think you're gonna find a competent teacher that is in demand that is going to risk their life first of all. Secondly tell the SCC class here how you force the kid to do his homework when there is no family to speak of at home. Kids raising kids. Yeah not all of them but a hell of alot of them.
Think!!
I apologize for being off topic, but did you see this SCC? One of the lead stories on nbc news is how Chicago is the most expensive city for taxing travelers. One more reason why vacationers will be avoiding Shit-cago. HEre's the link:
http://travelkit.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/10/13782878-top-city-for-taxing-travelers-chicago?lite
Anonymous said...
What you're seeing today IS THE DESIRED RESULTS -- streets so dangerous you can't use half the city, while vast fortunes are extracted from the chaos.
9/10/2012 03:40:00 PM
i always look on the bright side.
eventually, every body dies.
Chalkie
9/10/2012 06:58:00 PM
A doctor once told me that all bleeding stops eventually.
I just talked to some fireman about this communist Wellness program they are trying to force down the teachers throats- bad news you'll be required to check in on a monthly basis and if you don't you'll have anywhere between 50 and 100 $taken out of your check depending on dependants- obamacare is here - welcome to communism boys and girls
Anonymous said...
The average union teacher makes $76k + benefits and work 9 months a year. 58% of the kids drop out and 79% of 8th graders can't read proficiently. Fire them all and hire competent teachers who care about teaching.
9/10/2012 03:55:00 PM
Most of that is the parents fault. With crappy parents no kid will learn much except how to cuss, drink, smoke, stay up all night and what a mother fucker is etc.
Anonymous said...
Fire them all.
9/10/2012 06:36:00 PM
Blow me.
Anonymous said...
Yes but where are 9.5's kids at?
Latin School thats where..
9/10/2012 05:34:00 PM
Nope. They are at U of C Lab School in Hyde Park.
Why shouldn't police, fire, and teachers be treated and paid like the professionals they are? The bottom line is many parents expect us to be babysitters. We aren't.
I proudly walked the line today and went downtown for the demonstration. Thanks to all of the cops and fire who were so supportive and respectful. HUGE THANKS for all you do. You've got our support!
Anonymous said...
So now we're segregating schools based on gang affiliation?
Wow, McPilgrim.
9/10/2012 01:08:00 AM
Very interesting.
What would Chalkie say?
Mayor Emanuel's lack of urgency in dealing with the raging gang wars and youth violence in this city should tell you a lot about how much he cares for Chicago's children.
Not to mention his utter silence on Chicago's vast swaths of African American poverty and segregation.
Right now he has the teachers, the firefighters, and the police force against him. Those are the good guys!
Dance Scaramouch. Dance the Fandango.
Ok, why do the teachers deserve a raise when the product they produce is way below average of other large cities? Reward them for these abysmal results? Only in Chicano, Il
9/10/2012 02:24:00 PM
Hey jackass. I'll give you forty of those same wonder kids from the ghetto and let's see if you can raise their scores. If you can't, you're fired. Do you want those odds, tough guy? Yeah, I didn't think so.
The fact is that these kids were allowed to be bred out of control by socialists hoping for more votes and they're completely barbaric savages. Have you been to a school letting out lately?
If we have to keep rival gangs from attending the same schools, do you really believe that any real desire to learn exists there? No. Only the desire to drink, fuck and smoke dope.
So don't blame the teachers for the politicians failed social experiments.
Now go get your fucking shine box.
The $70,000 salary is a fucking lie. My brother started in the high thirty thousand range and eight years later is still making less than sixty thousand.
They averaged teachers with masters degrees and over forty years of service to get to that number.
But then again, Rahm would never tell a lie. Now would he?
I don't blame teachers for not wanting standardized test scores being used against them. Lewis is right they cannot control the gangs, the unbielievable increase in violence, shootings, increasing homelessness and non-existent parent support. The Mayor is responsible - he wants to blame theh teachers for issues beyond thier control, bust up the union and eliminate 1/3 of the teachers. He refuses to hire the cops needed instead funnelling millions to ex-gang bangers who did nothing. He slams firefighters too. Of course his kids go to school elsewhere and he has all the cops he needs 24/7 to take care of him and his family.
Teachers can't be expected to raise the scores of ignorant gang bangers who have no desire to learn and are in school only for the free meals and to start fights over bitches.
They deserve everything they're asking for just to compensate them for being trapped with those savages.
Funny how Rahm keeps finding money for parks, flower boxes, free food and baby sitters for the welfare crew.
If he's such a master fund raiser, let him raise the funds that the city owes our pensions.
We support the teachers 100%, but more than a few off duty PO's and Sgts. Who work OFF DUTY SIDE JOBS" at schools actually crossed the picket lines today? Just know you just lost all respect from the teachers in your building. We know you are not part of CTU, but the fact that you crossed the line is a slap in the face. We support police 100% ......You know who you are.
Anonymous said...
We support the teachers 100%, but more than a few off duty PO's and Sgts. Who work OFF DUTY SIDE JOBS" at schools actually crossed the picket lines today? Just know you just lost all respect from the teachers in your building. We know you are not part of CTU, but the fact that you crossed the line is a slap in the face. We support police 100% ......You know who you are.
9/10/2012 10:00:00 PM
Good. You feed my family and pay my kid's tuition, moron. Fuck you.
We support the teachers 100%, but more than a few off duty PO's and Sgts. Who work OFF DUTY SIDE JOBS" at schools actually crossed the picket lines today?
*POs SHAME ON YOU
SGTs YOU are NOT Blue =F U
You have no respect! Sell outs and MANAGEMENT
Bottom Line My Fellow COPS are next to be Fuked By Rat Rahm!
I was at the rally years back Under Tim Fallon FOP at City Hall -Back then some of my fellow Cops refused to show up
United We Stand Divided We Fall
Blame Rahm and His EGO
The average salary on Rahms personal staff is over $80,000. No telling how many hundreds of other raises were given last year to other staff and how many more in 2013. Many are way over $100000. Most barely out of school.
Anonymous said...
The $70,000 salary is a fucking lie. My brother started in the high thirty thousand range and eight years later is still making less than sixty thousand.
They averaged teachers with masters degrees and over forty years of service to get to that number.
But then again, Rahm would never tell a lie. Now would he?
9/10/2012 09:52:00 PM
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Suntimes has a link to all IL public school teachers salaries. Look at CPS numbers for full-time teachers, and then make your post. Most do make over 70k. It's a FACT!
Dumb Accountant? said...
The City has supposedly offered the teachers a 16% raise over 4 years beginning the first year with a 3% raise and 2% raises for each of the following 3 years. Assume a school principal is currently being paid exactly $100,000.00 per year. My calculations indicate that it would only be a total (compounded annually) raise of 9.3% over the 4 years: My calculations follow:
Current Pay = $100,000.00
Year 1 (3%) = $103,000.00
Year 2 (2%) = $105,060.00
Year 3 (2%) = $107,161.20
Year 4 (2%) = $109,304.42
How did the CPS calculate a 16% raise over 4 years?
9/10/2012 04:46:00 PM
TO ALL WONDERING:
The missing 7% of the raise comes in the way of payment to their (CTU) pension fund.
TO the Belmont/Western staff and those who passed on Addison/Western Ave. today.
Lane Tech teachers want to say THANK YOU to all of the wonderful support from the Police today in front of Lane Tech!
on the behalf of CPS teachers downtown today - thank you!
Thank you for all you do.
Got news for you that wellness program is comong to cops too. Better keep that academy weight and fitness for 20 or more years or it will cost you too. It seems clear that this man absolutley hates city unions. He wants to be a dictator.
Karen Lewis love-fest during CPS strike = McCarthy love-fest during NATO.
Save yourself embarrassment in the long run -- which these days is maybe a week or two. Beware emotional overflow.
Rahm quoted as saying he "couldn't give two hoots" about what the Republicans have to say about the strike
(via Mary Ann Ahern of Channel 5).
He also denies that the strike is a test for him; he says the only tests he's concerned about are those for the 3rd & 4th graders.
He's too busy doing damage control, both for him and Obama!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
"Ok, why do the teachers deserve a raise when the product they produce is way below average of other large cities? Reward them for these abysmal results?"
--9/10/2012 02:24:00 PM
Yes.
Because Karen Lewis states unequivocally and unilaterally that "you cannot use test scores to gauge teacher performance."
Everyone gets an "A" no matter what.
So there.
Class act. What an ass Emanuel is.
Rahm Emanuel Doesn't Give 'Two Hoots' About Romney's Take On Chicago Teachers Strike
After GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney used the Chicago teachers' strike to take a shot at President Barack Obama, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel responded Monday by saying he didn't give "two hoots" about Romney's comments.
"While I appreciate his lip service, what really counts is what we are doing here, and I don't give two hoots about national comments scoring political points or trying to embarrass or whatever the president," Emanuel said.
Firm Ripe Tomato said...
Anonymous said...
Yes but where are 9.5's kids at?
Latin School thats where..
9/10/2012 05:34:00 PM
Nope. They are at U of C Lab School in Hyde Park.
9/10/2012 09:33:00 PM
Ohhhh, well in that case...
GOOGLE
FORENSIC AUDIT
Then the taxpayers will STRIKE!
Bring out your calculator now punch in the $25,000,000.00 that the city just found to fund a day care style program for the kiddies locked out due to the teachers strike.
Add that to the 55 million for Maggie Daley Park,190 million for bicycle lanes, 200+ million for Malcolm X College rehab, then ask yourself...
"Self, how much money has the 'broke' city found to put into the police, fire and teacher pensions as required by law?"
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Don't forget 1 million to ceasefire!
We support the teachers 100%, but more than a few off duty PO's and Sgts. Who work OFF DUTY SIDE JOBS" at schools actually crossed the picket lines today? Just know you just lost all respect from the teachers in your building. We know you are not part of CTU, but the fact that you crossed the line is a slap in the face. We support police 100% ......You know who you are.
9/10/2012 10:00:00 PM
Hey dumb ass. That's the difference between us. Police can't strike. Now go hug Obama
Karen Lewis has chunks of guys bigger than Rahm in her stool!
....and he has all the cops he needs 24/7 to take care of him and his family.
9/10/2012 09:53:00 PM
sooner or later, those tomatoes will find a way.
mark my words on this.
Chalkie
What'a a per?
9/10/2012 09:05:00 PM
i'd say that you've got joke, except you're not kidding.
principals are not in the union and most of them make more than that.
9/10/2012 08:51:00 PM
and are not worth half of what they're paid.
The Rahmulan is a little bully. I hope that Karen Lewis ends up wiping the floor with him.
9/10/2012 08:29:00 PM
i'd rather see her wipe her ass with him.
Whats a matter you dont like me callin Bathhouse Rahm and Hinky Dink McCarthy Bathhouse Rahm and Hinky dink McCarthy. Last turn of the century same as this turn of the century. WHAT GIVES SCC?
For all the people who say that teachers should be getting more, and that it is the students fault for not learning. Then if all they are doing is glorified baby siting, you could pay people $10 a hour with no benefits or pension to do the same thing.
Using the average salary is bs as the higher paid outliers (veteran teachers, masters degrees,etc) will skew the results. CTU should be using Median salary -- half above, half below.
I tell you what the teachers sure get the best contracts. A 16% raise wow! Last time we got that it had to be 3 contracts ago and probably will never see it again. I support the teachers, but they hold all the power and will drain the $$$$ wells and leave the police and fire with nothing. becarefull guys I could see Rahm firing all of you and starting from scratch.
9/10/2012 12:42:00 AM
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That includes step increases. You get that much in step increases alone.
Anonymous said...
I just talked to some fireman about this communist Wellness program they are trying to force down the teachers throats- bad news you'll be required to check in on a monthly basis and if you don't you'll have anywhere between 50 and 100 $taken out of your check depending on dependants- obamacare is here - welcome to communism boys and girls
9/10/2012 09:29:00 PM
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What rock have you been hiding under?
That is the same wellness program that Rahm forced down the throats of all the other city workers except the FOP.
I say follow the $$$ trail on the company that is running this wellness program.
We support the teachers 100%, but more than a few off duty PO's and Sgts. Who work OFF DUTY SIDE JOBS" at schools actually crossed the picket lines today? Just know you just lost all respect from the teachers in your building. We know you are not part of CTU, but the fact that you crossed the line is a slap in the face. We support police 100% ......You know who you are.
9/10/2012 10:00:00 PM
Yep. We know who we are. And we don't care what you losers think. The vast majority of you "educators" support leftist, anti-American politicians and then preach that ideology to a captive audience of impressionable children. Yep, we know who we are. We know who you are too and don't give a damn what you think.
Anonymous said...
Just saw the teachers picketing city hall. And thought our demise is, you'd never get that many coppers together and that's why we'll get screwed
9/10/2012 08:52:00 PM
Um, did you ever stop to think that those people ARE NOT WORKING?
If we picket it's in addition to putting in 8 or 9 or whatever hours you happen to work. And on any given day, at least 1/3 or us are working days--daylight hours.
9/10/2012 03:55:00 PM
so if an offender gets arrested again, fire the cop that locked him up the first time?
9/10/2012 09:12:00 PM
You're an idiot too.
Sorry but I disagree with most of the sentiments here. Look around at the upstanding stdent bodies populating the Public Schools in Chicago. Obviously the teachers have some, if not the majority, responsibility for that continuing mess. I know, I know there are other factors, and a lot of good teachers but lack of competent teachers is certainly a major issue. Remember that unions are the great eqalizer.
Go ahead, fire away.
From the NY Times:
On the other hand, the status quo, which is what the Chicago teachers want, is clearly unacceptable. In Chicago, about 60 percent of public school students graduate from high school. The percentage who graduate from college before the age of 25 is appalling: somewhere around 6 percent. In a meeting with Emanuel, according to Jonathan Alter, who profiled the mayor for The Atlantic earlier this year, Lewis “derided the longer day as ‘baby-sitting and warehousing.’ ” On Sunday night, when she announced that the teachers were going on strike, Lewis said that teachers should not be at risk of losing their jobs over new evaluations that rely heavily on standardized test scores, which don’t account for outside factors like poverty and homelessness. Reformers have long complained that teachers’ unions too often use poverty as an excuse for poor performance. Lewis’s remarks would seem to justify that complaint.
What is frustrating about this strike, with its powerful national undercurrents, is that it is unlikely to change much. What both sides are doing is completely understandable. Like unions everywhere, the Chicago Teachers Union is trying to hold on to what it has, while management is trying to impose new work rules. However it is settled, teachers will still feel under assault, while reformers will continue to feel as if the union is the enemy. It’s a little like the battles in the 1970s and 1980s between unions and industry, with the two sides fighting each other so fiercely that neither noticed that imports were on the rise and globalization was making their squabbles irrelevant.
Students in other countries now regularly outperform American students. We are truly in the midst of an education crisis — one that won’t be solved until we completely rethink the way we offer public education. For starters, teachers and school administrators need to start working together instead of fighting each other. What the strike in Chicago mainly illustrates is how far we are from that goal.
The $70,000 salary is a fucking lie. My brother started in the high thirty thousand range and eight years later is still making less than sixty thousand.
They averaged teachers with masters degrees and over forty years of service to get to that number.
But then again, Rahm would never tell a lie. Now would he?
9/10/2012 09:52:00 PM
Private sector people, average in your supervisor's salary w/ your boss' salary, regional boss' salary, sales guys salary, everybody's bonuses etc. Then put it on the front page of all the local rags and on everyone's bedroom TV as they're paying their bills. State it as fact, print it in big bold letters. Watch everyone hate you.
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