All Over but the Screaming
- Attorneys defending the city of Chicago in a federal lawsuit stemming from the infamous 2007 beating of a female bartender by an off-duty police officer today rested their case, setting the scene for closing arguments on Tuesday.
Witnesses called by the city challenged key assertions by lawyers for the bartender, Karolina Obrycka, that higher-ranking officers obtained misdemeanor charges in a bid to minimize Abbate’s conduct and that the city has an abysmal record of disciplining officers for excessive force.
Obrycka’s lawsuit blames the department’s unofficial code of silence for the beating at Jesse’s Short Stop Inn and the alleged coverup that followed. After a videotape of the beating was made public and went viral, the Police Department underwent a firestorm of criticism.
The Department doesn't have "an abysmal record of disciplining officers for excessive force." What this Department has is ZERO consistency in discipline that it can fall back on to show that it handles complaints appropriately at any point in time. Time after time after time, the politically connected lead charmed lives and escape any sort of responsibility for their actions. Then they end up promoted in positions of power and excuse others doing the same crap they did, regardless of it being illegal, unethical or just plain stupid.
Labels: scandals
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
115 Comments:
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Fuck that Chicago Fire show on NBC. Haven't watched and will never watch an episode, but from what I hear they make us look like a department full of incompetent Abbates. If you see them filming in your neighborhood make sure you boo and heckle em from the public way. They are not our friends.
I hope the bosses get fucked on this case.we need this scandal to attempt to make the job semi legit.the cpd needs a fed take over.sorry boys and girls.
Does anyone know what kind of job the former street deputy(ADS) Sandra Day landed?
That sneak tom Byrne the chief of detectives always avoids scandal but he will step on you to advance.he wants the supt job bad.who in the hell is his clout?he is untouchable.
right on the money, SCC
what, exactly, are this woman's damages?
how has she been civilly harmed?
medicals bills?
'pain and suffering'?
and how has any alleged 'cover-up' caused her harm?
if anything, her not being deported has benefited her.
and how is anyone possibly liable, other than the offender?
OT: Sun-Times says only 80 POs put in for retirement by the deadline. Not enough (100 needed) for premium healthcare. Anyone know if this is true?
"All Over but the Screaming"
>Boo!<
(Debbie Kirby Halloween mask on the face... Rahm Emanuel Halloween mask in the back of the head)
YAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
*Explosivepoopindapants!*
WAAAAAAHHHH! BOO-HOO!
Ugh! THAT requires a CFD washdown...
CPD is now more tragicomedic than a clown funeral in the front room and a combination fish-fry and fashion show in the kitchen...
"Mmm-Hmm... they sure did a nice job puttying-up them holes in his clownish ass..."
"Ooooh! Are those 'gator shoes he got on?" (Imma get them bitches... Where he goin' his dead ass ain't gonna be walkin' in 'em!)
"Damn! Could this fish be greasier?"
*SNATCH!*
*SIZZLE!*
"AHH! My WIIIGGG!"
"WAIT! THE COFFIN!"
*THUD!*
"OH SHIT! FIRE!"
*WHOOOOMP!*
Cursing. Crying. Screaming. Smoke. Flames... And Laughter.
"HAH! Got them shoes bitches! Stuff a l'il newspaper in the toes an' I got these shits!"
>Units in 0?? and Units on the Citywide... Uhh... Ummmmm?
Ya know what boys and girls? Just go to this address and assist Fire. I can't even bring myself to read this fucked up ticket.<
"Hey! where ya goin'?"
"Man... I'm excusing MYSELF for the remainder and putting papers in first thing in the morning."
Yup... CPD all the damn way...
Just remember... Patrolmen didn't break this and the sitiuation has decayed beyond the ability of mortal men to fix...
Put the fire of purification to every ass responsible for the current state of affairs and watch them run into each other with hindparts aflame and hair catching... They'll all run back to their hidey-holes and hopefully burn the whole rotten structure down with them in it...
All the Patrolman has to do is stay the fuck out of the way and survive...
Do as I say not as I Do!
CPD's Leadership Maxim
The two-tier system of discipline on the CPD has resulted in nothing but morale destruction and workers just outright laying down or quitting.
Who ranges to bet that Deb Kirby is untouched and unfazed by this latest revelation of IAD corruption.
Nothing ever changes in Chicago!
Abatte's case is just one of hundreds where IAD jumped through hoops to cover for Clout.
Sad but true!
They will stop at nothing to protect Clout!
If IAD were legitimate 85% of these embarrassments would never occur!
Just remember it took one of the finest attorneys in the country to expose what we all knew; and he is from Du Page County, not CRook County!
How many millions to cover for this loser and IAD's corruption this time?
Thank God the Democratic Party can't manipulate the Federal Courts yet!
Make sure to VOTE today!
Tony is drinking a bee, smoking a joint and laughing right now.
The whole scandal makes me sick to my stomach.
Just imagine if these Clout losers had to worry about a legitimate disciplinary process and consequences for their illicit activities.
CPD and the taxpayers would have a much easier life!
We might be considered the heroes that most of us are on a daily basis instead of corrupt thugs!
If Mc Carthy is even half legitimate he will revamp and reorganize IAD.
Rahm, the working stiff coppers and the taxpayers are sick and tired of this constant BS!
The economy sucks, taxes are crushing and the payouts are endless.
Start ethics box testing IAD every six months.
Polygraphs will quickly sort the corrupt investigators and supervisors from the ethical ones.
Implement rigorous standards and accountability.
Rahm, this is your watch now! There is no blaming Richie or Phil any longer.
And they wonder why scandal keeps arising?
OT: please vote NO on ALL judges up for retention. Tell frends and family. You dont need to bring a cheat sheet, it's simple, NO to all judges.
Like the 2 from 004. Their video was on YouTube and now suddenly its disappeared. I've posted this comment several times and it mysteriously doesn't get posted either. Hmmmmm go figure. Who is looking out for whom??????
"All Over but the Screaming"
Read your headline on this one and thought it was about the Romney VICTORY!
Bye, bye Barry!
"All over but the screaming"
And paying the punitive damages...
One big question relating to the two POs not going into Jesse's Shortstop Inn....Every friggin' time I was called to handle a fight at a bar, I was told to check the liquor licenses to see if they were current for my report and hanging in the bar. Why didn't one of the POs do this?
Interesting article in the Sun Times on retirements. 2012 numbers to break record. The manpower crisis is being felt.
The olds adage for the clouted ones,Fuck-up,Move-up.It'll never change for us lowly peons
Every Officer from this day of judgement forward will be hung out to dry and on his own no matter how trivial an incident is. All thanks to Abbate and all the merit opus bosses.
OT: Engel hung himself. Gee. Shocker. A corrupt ex-cop that, deep down, is a scared little puss. Imagine that??
End the code of silence. Remove the stains. If you see something, say something. The 99% of the CPD that is just and honorable deserve better.
How about Eric Weems. He was the officer that was late to work at the CTA station at the south side and went to a battery in progress with a shirt over his uniform. He ended up executing a man that had nothing to do with the fight at all and claimed self-defense. All the brass backed him up even after watching the video that clearly shows him executing the man. So what happened to Weems? He gets promoted to Sgt.
A couple years ago he ended up eating his gun though. Maybe he finally realized he couldn't live with himself. Talk about a cover-up though. This department will do anything to protect the clouted!
Anonymous said...
Abatte's case is just one of hundreds where IAD jumped through hoops to cover for Clout.
Sad but true!
11/06/2012 02:43:00 AM
Sir, you have vastly underestimated the powers that be. Add a zero, and I don't mean Kirby.
watching these housecats contradicting each other was quite entertaining--- what will not be entertaining is the amount of money this polish girl will get--- a previous poster on this thread captured it all in a nutshell--- nothing will happen to kirby, the taxpayers will be on the hook for the damages.....
OT
Same headline for the general election too. Saddened to see singers instead of statesmen opening for the once idealistic Democratic party. 39,000 students at UW Madison - 18,000 at Springsteen rally - doesn't look good.
Like the 2 from 004. Their video was on YouTube and now suddenly its disappeared. I've posted this comment several times and it mysteriously doesn't get posted either. Hmmmmm go figure. Who is looking out for whom??????
11/06/2012 03:41:00 AM
Great, Ive seen the comment several times too. What are you complaining about? They have been stripped and are at call back.
Dude in the video had a gun , that is why he got slapped, trr's completed.
Anonymous said...
OT: Sun-Times says only 80 POs put in for retirement by the deadline. Not enough (100 needed) for premium healthcare. Anyone know if this is true?
11/06/2012 01:30:00 AM
Call the pension board
Anonymous said...
If Mc Carthy is even half legitimate he will revamp and reorganize IAD.
Rahm, the working stiff coppers and the taxpayers are sick and tired of this constant BS!
The economy sucks, taxes are crushing and the payouts are endless.
11/06/2012 02:58:00 AM
Right, because IAD is totally legit in NYPD. If McCarthy were half legit he would not have gotten the job here. Snakes and forked tongues only.
That sneak tom Byrne the chief of detectives always avoids scandal but he will step on you to advance.he wants the supt job bad.who in the hell is his clout?he is untouchable.
11/06/2012 12:32:00 AM
Tom Byrne is one of the real decent guys on the Department. I wish he was the Superintendent. If you have a problem with him, you must be a real piece of work.
Aggravated batteries where there is no injury is like Kerry's Purple Hearts where there was no injury.
It is just a "Sheckles for Ekl Case".
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Fuck that Chicago Fire show on NBC. Haven't watched and will never watch an episode, but from what I hear they make us look like a department full of incompetent Abbates. If you see them filming in your neighborhood make sure you boo and heckle em from the public way. They are not our friends.
11/06/2012 12:22:00 AM
I have seen every episode. Yes, they have to have one cop look like a buffoon or corrupt before the end of each show.They are heroes though so hey...just happy to be with heroes (sarcasm off).
Sandra Day? The merit hack who was Hillard's babysitter and the girlfriend of her boss ? I think too dumb for anyone to give her a real job unless it is on the taxpayers dime. I would cringe everytime she showed up on a scene ( usually hours late ).
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I just read the state statute on speed cameras. Doesn't it mean that Chicago CANNOT install them?
(625 ILCS 5/11-612)
Sec. 11-612. Certain systems to record vehicle speeds prohibited. Except as authorized in the Automated Traffic Control Systems in Highway Construction or Maintenance Zones Act and Section 11-208.8 of this Code, no photographic, video, or other imaging system may be used in this State to record vehicle speeds for the purpose of enforcing any law or ordinance regarding a maximum or minimum speed limit unless a law enforcement officer is present at the scene and witnesses the event. No State or local governmental entity, including a home rule county or municipality, may use such a system in a way that is prohibited by this Section. The regulation of the use of such systems is an exclusive power and function of the State. This Section is a denial and limitation of home rule powers and functions under subsection (h) of Section 6 of Article VII of the Illinois Constitution.
(Source: P.A. 97-672, eff. 7-1-12.)
Off topic but .....Is there a specific ticket to write people that hang cpd hat bands around their mirror ? Dummys ( especially if they truly are cpd ) you know who u goofs are !!!
anon said:
We might be considered the heroes that most of us are on a daily basis,....
I say that some of us still do.
Richard
Off Topic But Relevant!
Hey SCC!
Frannie "The Media Hoe With No Panties" Speilman is bumpin' her toothless gums in the scum-times about "Chicago Police Officers retiring at a record pace."
EVERYFUCKIN' THING THE ASS-HOE CHICAGO MEDIA RUNS, IS RUN FOR A REASON!"
Let's see now...
Hmmm...
Election Day?
Check.
The Fakir of Fuckery is in town?
Check.
He has a human suppository? brand name of Rahm al Ghoul firmly wedged where the sun normally doesn't shine?
Check.
Hmmmmm...
A load of federal largesse soon to be farted in Rahm's general direction?
Plausible.
Especially after considering how this story was planted to scare the the shit out of the sheeple?
*OMG! Helen! The Cops are retiring in record numbers! Whatever are we to do?*
>FART!<
As if l'il Boris Karloff is ACTUALLY going to use such monies to hire Police.
He's still fixated on "sticking it in their ear."
OTH?
Funny how EVERYBODY is disavowing the North shore Shit-Ass now...
*GASP! NO! I DID NOT VOTE FOR THAT MAN!*
(So? Only The Police could see this little loon was toxic?)
Yes you did muthafuckah! You don't have the foot-speed to lie!
Gotchoazzz!
Anyways...
Frannie No Panty's planted story is like the whiff of ill humours & bad ju-ju at a West Side card game...
"Watch da back do' cuz... We finna be on some bullshit up in heah..."
"Damn cuz! You stickin' the fam..."
JACKPOT! CHECK IT IN BITCHES!
*The sound of shit getting very ugly very quickly*
This might actually get interesting.
Does any working policeman really want a competent IAD or IPRA?
Face it if you work you occasionally step in it, luckily we have the appointed investigating us.
I said it before and I will say it again, what he did was wrong and he should be punished but he did not land one punch on her. it was assault at the most.
The late Capt. Terrance McCue rolled over in his grave when his namesake award was given out in 2010.
Grau is Tom Byrnes clout. He was with LiL Hi in 14 and followed him around. LiL Hi had to have someone around to figure things out just as he had XO Ryan -19 in 14 with him and also merit promoed him also.LiL Hi= major JO
That sneak tom Byrne the chief of detectives always avoids scandal but he will step on you to advance.he wants the supt job bad.who in the hell is his clout?he is untouchable.
11/06/2012 12:32:00 A
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U are crazy, Tom Byrne Chief if Dicks is an awesome guy, too bad the guy under him is trying to stab him in the back. Ur nuts if you think Byrne is bad.
Ah is the house of cards that is he 90% meritorious promoted upper ranks of CPD falling down? Jesus what took so long? This nightmare loss of leadership by brains, brawn and bullets occured by design starting in early 90s, and look what the politicals have done. Is there more than a handful of smart, common sense, and morally grounded leaders of Lt rank and above left? I believe No! You have young men and women still doing what it takes to maintain the "thin blue line" look at them for future bosses or this city is actually going to suffer so much more. Stop the punitive damage crap you allow and restore indemity as it was when we could still do real police work and not fear the bottom feeder lawyers and their criminal clients in the federal courts with their feeble minded juries....yeah, I am retired, but I didn' have to quit while I worked to protect my assets.
Herrera was on 60 minutes again, this time saying Kirby was like a mother to him.
Clout is what counts! Muppethead moved on to greener fields in the burbs. The second dickhead got 7 in the pen, but was still smiling.??!! The snitch got a couple of months. Shortshanks got to pass go and connect 200 grand. The unfortunate ones are pushing up daisys. What a fucking show and not a fucking thing has changed or will change in the future boys and girls!
Suburban Police departments are worse than CPD with regards to clout vs discipline. A dept. of 25 sworn, very small dept. 22 out 25 are connected to the local democratic party including scumbag parasite Chief.
Last 5 years
12 lawusit filed against clout coppers for everthing from excessive force, false arrests, theft. No internal investigations.
payouts from $100,000 - $750,000
non connected coppers; suspended for minor violations and other made up bullshit.
It's everywhere. 1 year to retirement
I hope the bosses get fucked on this case.we need this scandal to attempt to make the job semi legit.the cpd needs a fed take over.sorry boys and girls.
YOUR A MORON...
Ok CLOUT CLOUT CLOUT CLOUT......
WHO THE FUNK IS ABBATTES CLOUT!
Ive been reading the blog for years and have always mostly agreed with the insight of the blog's main post. But I keep reading about the clouted and a two tier system of discipline. Sorry but the clout of Abattee is or has never been revealed. So this whole thing doesnt make for a good example of the two tier system of discipline or how clout helps those that have it.
Either give the name of Abatteee's clout or use real known examples of which their are plenty to prove the point.
Why wasn't I given the opportunity to work the overtime that was put in place for today? The city had four years to put an overtime initiative together for this and they ignored our contract again.
They are revamping IAD. No more PO's as investigators - all investigators will be Sgt.'s or above. McNutty's idea to revamp IAD for accountability.
That's a pretty scalding indictment there, SCC.
Anonymous said...
what, exactly, are this woman's damages?
how has she been civilly harmed?
medicals bills?
'pain and suffering'?
and how has any alleged 'cover-up' caused her harm?
if anything, her not being deported has benefited her.
and how is anyone possibly liable, other than the offender?
11/06/2012 12:39:00 AM
AMEN!!! My thoughts exactly. As F'd up as this department is, no one should be punished or held liable other than that fat ass!!
Anonymous said...
Like the 2 from 004. Their video was on YouTube and now suddenly its disappeared. I've posted this comment several times and it mysteriously doesn't get posted either. Hmmmmm go figure. Who is looking out for whom??????
11/06/2012 03:41:00 AM
Maybe because the scandals need to finally die off. Maybe SCC is tired of the negative publicity. After all, if you're the Police, why would you want this shit back in the limelight again?
"Living on a lighted stage approaches the unreal..."
Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it.....
Box Chevy Phantom,
LMFAO, you a fool!!!!!!!!!!
Chief Byrne is nothing but a gentleman, who will actually treat you like a human being. He also takes the time to listen to people.
I see at least 10 posts from the same butthurt poster. You keep whining about "the corrupt IAD investigators". How in the world does any of this equate to corrupt investigators? The only one who sounded legit in the whole thing was the IAD Sgt who handled it. So, if you are who I think you are, a guy who should have been fired for sexual deviancy and banging another copper's wife, you have a LOT of nerve calling anyone else corrupt. Loser.
Carry on.
Off topic but .....Is there a specific ticket to write people that hang cpd hat bands around their mirror ? Dummys ( especially if they truly are cpd ) you know who u goofs are !!!
11/06/2012 10:43:00 AM
Oh that is my pet peeve, and they always seem to be driving like complete assholes. I hope their not coppers....and unless you really reach for some type of "driving with an obstructed view" ticket, there's not a whole lot you can do about it.
013th District Copper said...
How about Eric Weems. He was the officer that was late to work at the CTA station at the south side and went to a battery in progress with a shirt over his uniform. He ended up executing a man that had nothing to do with the fight at all and claimed self-defense. All the brass backed him up even after watching the video that clearly shows him executing the man. So what happened to Weems? He gets promoted to Sgt.
A couple years ago he ended up eating his gun though. Maybe he finally realized he couldn't live with himself. Talk about a cover-up though. This department will do anything to protect the clouted!
11/06/2012 08:25:00 AM
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He;s a cop who fucked up and tragically committed suicide. Show some fucking respect and at least get his name right. He was Detective Alvin Weems. I am sad to know he killed himself. ANd he shot and killed that guy yes. Yes he did. You fucking stroke you embarass me.
They are revamping IAD. No more PO's as investigators - all investigators will be Sgt.'s or above. McNutty's idea to revamp IAD for accountability.
11/06/2012 02:50:00 PM
So are the po's going back to the districts ?
Ok CLOUT CLOUT CLOUT CLOUT......
WHO THE FUNK IS ABBATTES CLOUT!
Ive been reading the blog for years and have always mostly agreed with the insight of the blog's main post. But I keep reading about the clouted and a two tier system of discipline. Sorry but the clout of Abattee is or has never been revealed. So this whole thing doesnt make for a good example of the two tier system of discipline or how clout helps those that have it.
Either give the name of Abatteee's clout or use real known examples of which their are plenty to prove the point.
11/06/2012 02:00:00 PM
Oh look, it's Andy Sham paying a visit for tips and clues. Take a hike.
that's for merit sgts that do not want to work the street like the sgts that passed the test .
"Gimme one Polish to go with everything."
013th District Copper said...
How about Eric Weems. He was the officer that was late to work at the CTA station at the south side and went to a battery in progress with a shirt over his uniform. He ended up executing a man that had nothing to do with the fight at all and claimed self-defense. All the brass backed him up even after watching the video that clearly shows him executing the man. So what happened to Weems? He gets promoted to Sgt.
A couple years ago he ended up eating his gun though. Maybe he finally realized he couldn't live with himself. Talk about a cover-up though. This department will do anything to protect the clouted!
11/06/2012 08:25:00 AM
First off his name was Alvin Weems ... second, he had a terminal illness.
To:
Anonymous said...
Off topic but .....Is there a specific ticket to write people that hang cpd hat bands around their mirror ? Dummys ( especially if they truly are cpd ) you know who u goofs are !!!
11/06/2012 10:43:00 AM
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Obstructed driver's view in the name of the violation. It applies to anything that is between the driver and the windshield except for the mirror mounted to the windshield. Anything hanging is subject to the statute and excessive city stickers or other things plastered on the windshield also can be cited. I think you can even apply it to snow/frost that people dont like to scrape off the windshield.
He;s a cop who fucked up and tragically committed suicide. Show some fucking respect and at least get his name right. He was Detective Alvin Weems. I am sad to know he killed himself. ANd he shot and killed that guy yes. Yes he did. You fucking stroke you embarass me.
11/06/2012 05:08:00 PM
What is respectable about a murderer finally offing himself, you fucking moron? Good riddance to bad garbage.
Off topic but .....Is there a specific ticket to write people that hang cpd hat bands around their mirror ? Dummys ( especially if they truly are cpd ) you know who u goofs are !!!
11/06/2012 10:43:00 AM
The charge is: 625 ILCS 5/12-5-3(c) Nothing suspended from mirror, obstructing view
they do not come any better than chief byrne. you obivously never met the guy
Off topic but .....Is there a specific ticket to write people that hang cpd hat bands around their mirror ? Dummys ( especially if they truly are cpd ) you know who u goofs are !!!
11/06/2012 10:43:00 AM
HOLY SHIT!! Thats all you have to worry about during your tour? What retirement district do you work in?!
Obama wins! We lose!
Wow! Four more years of the community organizer leading the country. But more important for us is that the pension amendment passed. Remember all those so called friends that come around at election time. They will be eatiing well , while we're eating cat food at retirement. We have no one to blame, but ourselves. Thanks Mike Shields and Jimmy Ade, just to name a few.....
"This department will do anything to protect the clouted!"
It's not just CPD. This is what Chicago is all about.
It starts at the top an infects all levels of government.
It would take a direct nuke strike on the city to insure that all vermin of this variety were destroyed. The corruption runs that deep.
Off topic but .....Is there a specific ticket to write people that hang cpd hat bands around their mirror ? Dummys ( especially if they truly are cpd ) you know who u goofs are !!!
If you really were a cop, you'd know.
Goof.
Anonymous said...
that's for merit sgts that do not want to work the street like the sgts that passed the test .
11/06/2012 06:31:00 PM
I think you have that backward
Off topic but .....Is there a specific ticket to write people that hang cpd hat bands around their mirror ? Dummys ( especially if they truly are cpd ) you know who u goofs are !!!
11/06/2012 10:43:00 AM
Oh that is my pet peeve, and they always seem to be driving like complete assholes. I hope their not coppers....and unless you really reach for some type of "driving with an obstructed view" ticket, there's not a whole lot you can do about it.
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There are several different things you can do
Obstruct drivers view ticket, u can take the band and inventory it if they are not the police( can't possess the fop item) You can even arrest them on an unlawful possession of fop items( not exact listed charge)........again assuming its not the police.
Geezus learn the law you're the police
Ladies and gentleman, please relax your sphinxters.
Tom Byrne is truly one of the good guys and Dean should stay of this blog.
Doesn't assbate work at McCormick now? I've got $1,000 he's no where near that place with the worlds media present. I for one, would welcome a meeting.
Where you at bitch?
Anonymous said...
He;s a cop who fucked up and tragically committed suicide. Show some fucking respect and at least get his name right. He was Detective Alvin Weems. I am sad to know he killed himself. ANd he shot and killed that guy yes. Yes he did. You fucking stroke you embarass me.
11/06/2012 05:08:00 PM
What is respectable about a murderer finally offing himself, you fucking moron? Good riddance to bad garbage.
11/06/2012 08:36:00 PM
A. Weems should have been in prison. Never met a bigger dummy in my life. Could not understand a word he said. So Cozzi slaps a guy and gets 48 months (?) and Weems kills a guy, then lies about it and gets promoted?
Please.
A couple years ago he ended up eating his gun though. Maybe he finally realized he couldn't live with himself. Talk about a cover-up though. This department will do anything to protect the clouted!
11/06/2012 08:25:00 AM
First off his name was Alvin Weems ... second, he had a terminal illness.
11/06/2012 07:37:00 PM
Yeah, killing a guy for no reason and then lying and trying to cover for yourself will eat your guts out eventually. Karma. Bad juju. What goes around comes around.
Anonymous said...
Chief Byrne is nothing but a gentleman, who will actually treat you like a human being. He also takes the time to listen to people.
11/06/2012 04:29:00 PM
Unless you're in his way. Or not part of his 'club'. He'll do what he's got to do to keep his spot, and if that includes mowing down whoever he needs to, he will.
Anonymous said...
He;s a cop who fucked up and tragically committed suicide. Show some fucking respect and at least get his name right. He was Detective Alvin Weems. I am sad to know he killed himself. ANd he shot and killed that guy yes. Yes he did. You fucking stroke you embarass me.
11/06/2012 05:08:00 PM
What is respectable about a murderer finally offing himself, you fucking moron? Good riddance to bad garbage.
11/06/2012 08:36:00 PM
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it looked to me like his gun went off accidentally, still wrong, but not a murderer - there's a difference ... so fuck you again you prick
@SCC Fan ur fight is not with me! I don't know who is posting all the shit about u and IAD, but it is not me! Kindly leave me out of it. The person you think it is!!!
He;s a cop who fucked up and tragically committed suicide. Show some fucking respect and at least get his name right. He was Detective Alvin Weems. I am sad to know he killed himself. ANd he shot and killed that guy yes. Yes he did. You fucking stroke you embarass me.
11/06/2012 05:08:00 PM
What is respectable about a murderer finally offing himself, you fucking moron? Good riddance to bad garbage
Ur the moran, if ur a real cop.U should know that most cover up their uniform when traveling off duty.And he came upon a fight between two dogs from 95th and red line with his gun drawn.HIs only mistake was to have his finger on the trigger.And if u ever worked that area u would know that these mutts would have no problem killing u. it was a tragic accident which the dog family was handsomly paid.So calling it a murder must mean ur a democrate who has no business being the police.
How come nobody brings up the fact that if Abbate was so clouted why did he feel so compelled to call and have non police call the bar hundreds of times? This is what I would say reflects no REAL clout on the job. A truly clouted person who not have to expose them self to a peon. Having enough steam to get on the job does not make you truly clouted.
Anonymous said...
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Fuck that Chicago Fire show on NBC. Haven't watched and will never watch an episode, but from what I hear they make us look like a department full of incompetent Abbates. If you see them filming in your neighborhood make sure you boo and heckle em from the public way. They are not our friends.
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I agree! Fuck that show. Saw a promo for an episode in which they were depicting a dirty cop. FUCK THEM!! They should be depicting dirty firemen. Why don't they have an episode of the firemen stuffing items into their coats and boots while they are inside a building putting out a fire. They boast about it all the time! Why isn't anyone cracking down on their thievery?!
He;s a cop who fucked up and tragically committed suicide. Show some fucking respect and at least get his name right. He was Detective Alvin Weems. I am sad to know he killed himself. ANd he shot and killed that guy yes. Yes he did. You fucking stroke you embarass me.
11/06/2012 05:08:00 PM
What is respectable about a murderer finally offing himself, you fucking moron? Good riddance to bad garbage.
We embarassa nd fight with ourselves....Who needs an enemy?
11/06/2012 01:21:00 PM
Anonymous said...
Suburban Police departments are worse than CPD with regards to clout vs discipline. A dept. of 25 sworn, very small dept. 22 out 25 are connected to the local democratic party including scumbag parasite Chief.
Yes, some are and some are not. I retired from the job and moved to the burbs. I have occasional contact with different surburban departments because of a business that i own. Sometimes I find great professionalism and sometimes I find juvenile and dismissive conduct. The same as Chicago. I would not want to spend 25 years driving around some of these bedroom communities. I would have gone nuts.
Anonymous said...
OT: Engel hung himself. Gee. Shocker. A corrupt ex-cop that, deep down, is a scared little puss. Imagine that??
End the code of silence. Remove the stains. If you see something, say something. The 99% of the CPD that is just and honorable deserve better.
11/06/2012 07:55:00 AM
Gary Engel is a very long story and anyone who worked in Intelligence section in the 80's knows the story. It is a web with more then one police officer, surburban and Chicago involved along with organized crime.
democrapic politicians.
That sneak tom Byrne the chief of detectives always avoids scandal but he will step on you to advance.he wants the supt job bad.who in the hell is his clout?he is untouchable.
11/06/2012 12:32:00 A
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U are crazy, Tom Byrne Chief if Dicks is an awesome guy, too bad the guy under him is trying to stab him in the back. Ur nuts if you think Byrne is bad.
11/06/2012 12:13:00 PM
Byrne is one of the few decent bosses around. He would probably be a great superintendent. For once, the troops would have someone in the position who really cares about them.
As for the 'guy under him', well, his only friend is his tailor, and HE is the one who will do anything to make superintendent. Don't turn your back on him.
OT: Engel hung himself. Gee. Shocker. A corrupt ex-cop that, deep down, is a scared little puss. Imagine that??
End the code of silence. Remove the stains. If you see something, say something. The 99% of the CPD that is just and honorable deserve better.
11/06/2012 07:55:00 AM
You sound like a hyper-dramatic screenwriter. You're clearly not the police. The code of silence went away years and years ago.
Start ethics box testing IAD every six months.
Polygraphs will quickly sort the corrupt investigators and supervisors from the ethical ones.
Implement rigorous standards and accountability.
Rahm, this is your watch now! There is no blaming Richie or Phil any longer.
11/06/2012 03:03:00 AM
Ethics box? Is that where you put your hand on the xerox machine and it lights up if you're lying?
Tony,,,,,,GET THAT FUCKING SMIRK OFF YOUR FACE when the TV cameras are on.
You were a POS as a PO and a bigger POS as a person. We hated you (and your partner JB) when you were in 020.
How can you look at yourself in the mirror?
Anonymous said...
Chief Byrne is nothing but a gentleman, who will actually treat you like a human being. He also takes the time to listen to people.
11/06/2012 04:29:00 PM
I just ran out of career waiting for good bosses to show up. Never happened for me. Now I have been retired a month. I do not miss it one little bit. You won't hear me say gee, I wish I could have worked a few more years. Hell, uniforms gone already, guns for sale, IROCC card firmly in wallet, off duty weapons are all I will keep. I don't even have a retired ID or retired star, don't care. Life goes on.
Finito.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Chief Byrne is nothing but a gentleman, who will actually treat you like a human being. He also takes the time to listen to people.
11/06/2012 04:29:00 PM
Unless you're in his way. Or not part of his 'club'. He'll do what he's got to do to keep his spot, and if that includes mowing down whoever he needs to, he will.
11/07/2012 05:31:00 AM
Pretty fucking cryptic and vague ... how exactly did he "mow you down" ? you bigshot you
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Anonymous said...
He;s a cop who fucked up and tragically committed suicide. Show some fucking respect and at least get his name right. He was Detective Alvin Weems. I am sad to know he killed himself. ANd he shot and killed that guy yes. Yes he did. You fucking stroke you embarass me.
11/06/2012 05:08:00 PM
What is respectable about a murderer finally offing himself, you fucking moron? Good riddance to bad garbage.
11/06/2012 08:36:00 PM
A. Weems should have been in prison. Never met a bigger dummy in my life. Could not understand a word he said. So Cozzi slaps a guy and gets 48 months (?) and Weems kills a guy, then lies about it and gets promoted?
Please.
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You know what you make me sick.. Shut your fucking mouth.
He shot the guy ya, but you're like the ignorant media when you call it murder.
And casting dispersions on a guy when in that situation lying? You fucking goof. Cozzi tell the truth before the video came out? Doubt it. Holier -than-thou mutherfucker. Ya Weems fucked up and he had his problems, ya he pobably out-and-out lied at some point. What would you do you big fucking hero ?... truth is in the civil case he kinda shit on himself and admitted he fucked up, but you beleive what you want to believe. You guys that go to the wall for Cozzi are the same clowns who went to bat for the guy who beat Mearday , then prentended he was 100% in the right .... clowns
Anonymous said...
How come nobody brings up the fact that if Abbate was so clouted why did he feel so compelled to call and have non police call the bar hundreds of times? This is what I would say reflects no REAL clout on the job. A truly clouted person who not have to expose them self to a peon. Having enough steam to get on the job does not make you truly clouted.
11/07/2012 08:25:00 AM
Jfled used Cozzi to show us how bad he was.
Now that this whole Abbatte thing is in the news again, the next copper who steps on his dick is going to be a sacrificial lamb.
Every minute you spend out there you have to figure you are being recorded, even in places you think it's impossible.
Keep that in mind, write good paper from the get-go. Sometimes less is more.
Be careful out there all. Don't be McMuppet's sacrificial lamb.
And casting dispersions on a guy when in that situation lying?
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What the hell is a "DISPERSION"??????
Another product of CPS. And obviously a south-sider.
U are crazy, Tom Byrne Chief if Dicks is an awesome guy, too bad the guy under him is trying to stab him in the back. Ur nuts if you think Byrne is bad.
11/06/2012 12:13:00 PM
You must snorting, shooting or smoking some good shit. You DO NOT get that far in THIS Dept without being a politician first and a cop second. How many has he stepped on to get where he is? WAKE UP!!!
I just ran out of career waiting for good bosses to show up. Never happened for me. Now I have been retired a month. I do not miss it one little bit. You won't hear me say gee, I wish I could have worked a few more years. Hell, uniforms gone already, guns for sale, IROCC card firmly in wallet, off duty weapons are all I will keep. I don't even have a retired ID or retired star, don't care. Life goes on.
Finito.
All I can say is Thank You for your service and God Speed.
Now is your time and I hope you can enjoy it in good health
You know what you make me sick.. Shut your fucking mouth.
He shot the guy ya, but you're like the ignorant media when you call it murder.
And casting dispersions on a guy when in that situation lying? You fucking goof. Cozzi tell the truth before the video came out? Doubt it. Holier -than-thou mutherfucker. Ya Weems fucked up and he had his problems, ya he pobably out-and-out lied at some point. What would you do you big fucking hero ?... truth is in the civil case he kinda shit on himself and admitted he fucked up, but you beleive what you want to believe. You guys that go to the wall for Cozzi are the same clowns who went to bat for the guy who beat Mearday , then prentended he was 100% in the right .... clowns
11/07/2012 04:50:00 PM
Let me give you a clue...
It is aspersions....But dispersions does sound really close.
And what is prentended? Is that the same as pretended?
Oh, and it is probably — not pobally, (unless you're related to Barbara Walters) and it is believe, not beleive....Now I'll go ahead and "shut my fucking mouth" because "I make you so sick".
Great job, junior.
Tom Byrne could be the Sup. of our dreams. A great guy, good policeman and strong family man. These comments to the contrary are totally unfounded. I grew up with him. Know his family and his brother who is a county sheriff and was almost killed by some white biker trash.
The best sup we could ever have.
Ethics box? Is that where you put your hand on the xerox machine and it lights up if you're lying?
11/07/2012 11:51:00 AM
LOL. We used that tactic back in the old Maxwell st homicide unit in the 70's. Worked pretty well as I recall. As far as IAD is concerned? I did do a tour there in the 80's because I wanted weekends off. It was an eye opener. Clout ruled supreme. The supt personally interferred in cases in order to get someone he did not like. They went for dismissal even though the attorneys said it could not be done just to screw with people. Those with clout had their investigative files sent directly to the dep supt and supt for review so no onw else would know what went on. IAD was not the independent, objective investigative agency then and I really doubt that it is now. Way too many people assigned as investigators who had axes to grind or who did not have a clue about investigations. Believe me, they judged you and theyjudged you hard with little oversite. But, the big cases? The complaints of officers involved in burglary or drug rings? Little or no investigation. Incompetents assigned to the confidential unit because of their clout ( take home cars). Three days of surveillance and the case was terminated. It all would have been funny except that peoples careers and livelihoods were on the line and in many cases the reputation of the police department. files were shredded on a regular basis back then.
There are several different things you can do
Obstruct drivers view ticket, u can take the band and inventory it if they are not the police( can't possess the fop item) You can even arrest them on an unlawful possession of fop items( not exact listed charge)........again assuming its not the police.
Geezus learn the law you're the police
11/07/2012 03:21:00 AM
Having a checkered hat band is not against the law and it is not an FOP item. It is also not against the law to wear a tshirt that has cpd patches on it. Arrest someone for that and the person you arrest will make a few bucks on this.
my god,if we are bashing chief of detectives tom byrne,all is lost,a fairer boss i have never met.
11/07/2012 04:50:00 PM
Let me give you a clue...
It is aspersions....But dispersions does sound really close.
And what is prentended? Is that the same as pretended?
Oh, and it is probably — not pobally, (unless you're related to Barbara Walters) and it is believe, not beleive....Now I'll go ahead and "shut my fucking mouth" because "I make you so sick".
Great job, junior.
11/07/2012 09:59:00 PM
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way to avoid all substantive discussion ... and I ain't no junior ....ya you're right about the aspersions thing ... so waht .... and ya, I spelled what wrong ... now you make me even sicker . but show some respect to a fallen officer, that's all I ask. It was Detective Alvin Weems, not Sgt. Eric Weems ... but you don't care, like you said, you're glad he's dead,,, that's sweet pal ... eat a bag of shit
Anonymous said...
There are several different things you can do
Obstruct drivers view ticket, u can take the band and inventory it if they are not the police( can't possess the fop item) You can even arrest them on an unlawful possession of fop items( not exact listed charge)........again assuming its not the police.
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You should joing the special needs people who are teaching at the academy. You will fit right in. They will be glad to get your help. The scary part is that you are brighter than they are.
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