Shortages!
- Chicago already has registered more homicides than it did during all of last year. Now, the Chicago Police Department is on pace to break an all-time record that could make it more difficult to stop the bloodshed: police retirements in a single year.
Fraternal Order of Police President Mike Shields disclosed Monday that the ranks of 2012 retirees will top 580, breaking the old record of 570 in 2004.
Through Oct. 31, 475 officers had retired. According to Shields, an additional 105 officers met a Nov. 1 deadline to file the paperwork to take advantage of the city’s offer of premium health-care benefits for those who retire at 55.
Over the last decade, 4,178 city officers have retired from the force, an average of 417 officers a year.
Retirements ranged from 261 in 2009 to the previous high of 570.
Equally troubling to Shields is the fact that the city has hired just 190 officers so far this year.
That means Chicago is falling behind when it comes to police manpower after a three-year hiring slowdown and Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s decision to balance his first budget by eliminating more than 1,400 police vacancies, he said.
It's obvious to anyone who pays attention that hiring has not kept up with retirements for years now. Run any seniority lists for districts alone and the manpower shortages become apparent. Units disappeared. And the article states 1,400 vacancies were eliminated. Rahm is counting on the media's inability to add and compare numbers and keep citizens in the dark.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
68 Comments:
Tut, tut, as long as our smirking asshole Mayor has enough drivers, bodyguards, and assorted lackeys, all is well.
Honestly, WHO CARES!? We are now the United Socialist States of America! We are witnessing the fall of Rome in America!
You are dreaming if you think hiring more police officers will have any effect on the murder rate in Chicago. There is no relationship between the number of police officers and the number of murders a city has. Chicago ranks top or close to the top of all major cities when it comes to the number of police officers per capita.
Hiring is stagnant. The bloodbath continues. Obamy wins again and the pensions are through. Who cares anymore? We are done.
Somebody wrote on SCC the other day that the street deputy sandy day was going out with terry hillard.wow both pillars of moral virtues.are they still an item?
Does Obama have any authority to save our pensions?
Dont Worry bee happy, We will get OBAMA Care.The Cure all Bandaid.
Lots of stuff has been talking about merit people.is Sandra days former driver a lieutenant in svu?im betting a very strong yes.
019 and 023 were terribly short before the merge and now it's still short and were losing more coppers every month. 019 is down to 370 now. It started with 398 when it merged. No more rapid cars due to shortage and many 99 units. Sad times for the CPD. The city needs to hire at least 1000 by the end of 2013 just make a small dent.
cant wait for rham to start naming things after himself...he should start with waste management..
thats why these bosses want you to do more and more with less.
democrats need more money to breed welfare rats for votes.
Ax(2) + bx + c = no police
Good luck to all CPD retirees.
Hope they will be safer in retirement than on the mean streets of Chicago.
There is no point in hiding the numbers. The majority of Illinois, Cook County, and Chicago citizens don't seem to care about much based on this election.
Low turnkey rental home prices and low rental properties interest rates make this a great time to become an investor.
I don't blame them for retiring. Now that we have the marxist for 4 more, watch how any more flee. Sad state of affairs in this country. Be safe out there, it's gonna get ugly.
If too many retire, the ones still working won't be able to keep the pension fund afloat.
I wonder, do you think that anyone, other than members of the Police department and their families, really give a shit????
The city thinks we are a liability.
The average citizen thinks we are a necessary evil and you had better find something better to do than stop them!!!
Look at the people that just got elected. One is hiding from the fed amd not doing his job! One was expelled from his office, etc... Who really cares???
Hey, I'm only treating the police shortage the same as their pesion fund. Maybe if I ignore it long enough it will go away. Or, maybe I can blame the police themselves for the shortage. All I have to do is get a referendum on a ballot somewhere. Do you think the police should do more with less?
Methinks this plan has potential!
I gotta ask. WTF has Obama done about any of this? He is a hometown boy. You'd think he might give us some federal money to do some hiring. No?
As long as the DEMOCRATS aren't complaining it not a problem. Enjoy being democrats taxpayers.
Les S----still proud of your prick nephew??
Get Real! As long as you have nothside Districts with double desk crews as in the New 019, nobody blelieves your crying. Then there are the "spl mission" teams with the bottle blonde and her dwarf sidekick assigned to bicycles in November? Add the inside "insiders" any one of which could be replaced by a civilian and you could easily exceed and replace the retirees from that District, by putting the do nothings into beat cars. Instead they are pampered! We are our own worst enemy. There are way too many people dressing up like police and collecting police pay, but not doing police work.
fuck the city, they dont wana hire FUCK THEM!
of course theres gonna be shortages,people just dont wanna stick around anymore, can you blame them? job has gone too shits... literally a stupid dumb outsider trying to lead the dept.and a short stack bitch with a missing finger leading the city......thats a shit-bowl of mixture already
Your jobs are on the way to Extinction. Obama's National Federal Security Police Force will be taking over soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kyNvEsQxns&feature=em-share_video_user
When anyone wants to reminisce about the Bulls Championships as "riots" take a look at this video, originally 16mm film from the 1968 West Side riots after the killing of M.L. King.
11,000 police, 7,000 Illinois National Guard and 5,000 active US Army troops flown in on C-130's put an end to the riot several days after it began.
The police had revolvers, shotguns and any personal weapons they might have brought from home. Many had surplus M1 carbine 30 .cal rifles. Entire beats burned down. That was April, 1968. Similar civil unrest occurred in other cities across the country.
For a glimpse at what may be ahead for us, read this eyeopening article about the mess in Sao Paulo, Brazil. You'll read about the same politics, stats games, police budget lies, etc., but with POs being gunned down by gang-bangers added to the unfolding horror story. Our future being played out in what is known as the "Chicago" of South America ...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/07/us-brazil-crime-idUSBRE8A61MV20121107
of course rahm is going to lie any which way that fits his agenda. i am certain chicago's future will not be getting any better because osama won and now rahmie will continue with his rampage of negligence and cutbacks. rahmie will dish out the dough for his buddies only so it will better his chances in future politics. chicago appears to continue on its track to detroit standards.
The City keeps saying, oh, it's okay because the new recruits will graduate from the academy before the end of the year.
MEDIA ALERT: they WON'T be graduating by the end of the year. Around a hundred may hit the street, but they will be on probation, be assigned to training officers, and have NO experience working the street. They do not graduate for another YEAR!
And the rest, who have been hurried into the academy, so Rahm can claim he's hired 500 officers this year, well, they won't be out on the streets til next summer, again, on probation, with training officers and unable to immediately perform at the level of an experienced police officer.
What's sad is, because they were 'hired' this year, he'll count them as additions to the force this year. Then, next year when they go out on the street, he'll add them in AGAIN, counting them TWICE and bloating the numbers, because you 'reporters' will not fact-check.
rham is an idiot,then again so is the media.
As a tribute to the new Messiah's victory tonight, I declare that a sacrifice of 4 gangbangers be granted. So let it be said, so let it be done...
We always seem to get upset that the media doesn't report the realty of how many people are retiring and how little are getting hired in CPD. There is no doubt that the safety of citizens is greatly affected with this lack of manpower. But the fact is that the citizens just don't care. We as officers need to wake up and for our own sanity, stop beating our heads against the wall. If the Chicago voters had a ballot measure today, they would proudly vote to reduce our numbers. The media doesn't care, the citizens of Chicago don't care. If they could reduce us to 5,000 they would. If we think the public has our back, we are kidding ourselves. Even if the media reported the true numbers of staff levels, people wouldn't care anyway.
way to many full duty officers hiding in an office behind a desk.
get the officers on duty disability into an office job , off of disability pension and non duty disability , get healthy or find an office job for police dept as a civilian .
time to get tough on the abusers.
Shut up 11/07 1231
I have a serious and maybe stupid question it really doesn't affect me because I'm only 42 and will retire at 50. Does obamcare if it takes affect override the insurance for the guys that retired at 55 with insurance from city
In 019 they are doing away with all rapid cars on third watch. The watch is so short that they can't fill the beat cars and keep any rapids up. Most cars are already going out one man now, how much shorter can it possibly get?
way to many full duty officers hiding in an office behind a desk.
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Do you really want these house mouses on the street with you? In the long run you are doing more work and you are certainly not safer. Their presence is more of a drain on resources because they are always asking for help. God forbid if you need real help and they are the only ones near. Keep them inside. We are all better off that way.
Rahm and McNutty are pissing on us and telling us its raining!
Does Obama have any authority to save our pensions?
11/07/2012 02:21:00 AM
Seriously?? O Bama n Rahm are thick as thieves and Rahm wants to slash our pensions..... so what do you think?
Sandra Day was a good boss.
"Sandra Day was a good boss."
you are kidding, no?....meaning, a boss that had no business being promoted (read: political corruption), and had no idea what to do when it came to police work and police supervision...
What's sad is, because they were 'hired' this year, he'll count them as additions to the force this year. Then, next year when they go out on the street, he'll add them in AGAIN, counting them TWICE and bloating the numbers, because you 'reporters' will not fact-check.
11/07/2012 11:13:00 AM
Good point!
Anonymous said...
I have a serious and maybe stupid question it really doesn't affect me because I'm only 42 and will retire at 50. Does obamcare if it takes affect override the insurance for the guys that retired at 55 with insurance from city
11/07/2012 03:23:00 PM
I've wondered the same thing! I'm so close and yet so far. Just turned 52!
OT
I like how Rahm didn't like Quinn's pick for whatever position that female got because she was not qualified for the position said Rahmbo
but when the fabulous dancer, all educated up with his liberal arts Speech diploma was hired by that invstment banker and earned a quick $18Million for himslef
you fucking hippocrate scumbag Rahm
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/3689837-418/rahms-18.5-million-paychecks--how-did-he-do-it
Indiana - Republican to the core if you haven't noticed - has ZERO debt
How about that shit
I hate this stae, I hate this city, and I hate the treasonous democrats
You are dreaming if you think hiring more police officers will have any effect on the murder rate in Chicago. There is no relationship between the number of police officers and the number of murders a city has. Chicago ranks top or close to the top of all major cities when it comes to the number of police officers per capita.
11/07/2012 12:31:00 AM
Seriously, can you point me to the number of police per capita numbers? And what is a good MINIMUM per capita number based on the 'think tanks'? I actually looked for this info before, and couldn't find it. Hard to get REAL police numbers as well as REAL population numbers.
And how about per capita numbers based on 50 wards? Are we all equal? Do wards like around edison park have oh, lets say at least 2/3 of the number of officers that say wards on the West side?
FYI - Chicago is going to be the new US Capitol due to it's continentality and transportation network. The whole obongo / emanuel preparation will be to usher him back in four years to continue controlling the USA. Flying monkey gargoyles and every fucking thing.
Suck it up boys and girls. This is the new CPD like it or not.
Anonymous said...
Sandra Day was a good boss.
11/07/2012 04:55:00 PM
You have no idea, she wouldn't make a decision without t.h. or 1 of his minions, never worked a beat car. GFYS
Being a driver or office worker for her doesn't mean she was a good boss
Anonymous said...
The City keeps saying, oh, it's okay because the new recruits will graduate from the academy before the end of the year.
MEDIA ALERT: they WON'T be graduating by the end of the year. Around a hundred may hit the street, but they will be on probation, be assigned to training officers, and have NO experience working the street. They do not graduate for another YEAR!
And the rest, who have been hurried into the academy, so Rahm can claim he's hired 500 officers this year, well, they won't be out on the streets til next summer, again, on probation, with training officers and unable to immediately perform at the level of an experienced police officer.
What's sad is, because they were 'hired' this year, he'll count them as additions to the force this year. Then, next year when they go out on the street, he'll add them in AGAIN, counting them TWICE and bloating the numbers, because you 'reporters' will not fact-check.
11/07/2012 11:13:00 AM
The first recruit class will graduate december 14th. The 45 recruits will be assigned to the Michigan Ave detail for the holidays and skip FTO training. In Jan hopefully they might receive training. There is no way HR can find enough qualified recruits to reach 500 or even 400 by the end of the year. The academy has around 220 recruits. There are 2 more classes expected for the academy. The next one at the end of Nov and the middle of Dec. Tracy made promises to Rahm that cannot be fulfilled. Not one word from Mccarthy about the hiring process. What a waste of an opportunity to hire more officers.
Anonymous said...
019 and 023 were terribly short before the merge and now it's still short and were losing more coppers every month. 019 is down to 370 now. It started with 398 when it merged. No more rapid cars due to shortage and many 99 units. Sad times for the CPD. The city needs to hire at least 1000 by the end of 2013 just make a small dent.
11/07/2012 02:52:00 AM
The old 019, at Belmont & Western, had approx. 350 officers on the strength report in about 1998. This was PO's, Sgt's, Lt's, Captains and I believe one D2 dispatcher, a holdover from the old CC Room.
That 350 dwindled down to around 275 before the merger. I don't know what the combined 019/023 had in manpower at the time of the merger.
I do know that Supt. McCarthy sat in the assemble hall of Lakeview High School in November of 2011 and promised to the people gathered there that police resources would not be cut in the new combined district.
He promised. Unfortunately he neglected to put this in the form of a signed contract but no matter, we know how the City habitually fails to honor signed contracts.
Wait till Nov 15, more are set to retire and then again after the 1st of the year another hunk is leaving.
And still there are three full duty PO's working in the front office and a full duty PO working as crossing guard supervisor.
And McCarthy promised manpower would not go down. And the check is in the mail etc.
Everyone should take advantage of the tuition reimbursement. The new contract will be settled in about 4 years. In the meantime, under the old contract, there is enough time to earn a degree. I know someone who just got accepted into a top ranked program. The tuition is very expensive.
You are dreaming if you think hiring more police officers will have any effect on the murder rate in Chicago. There is no relationship between the number of police officers and the number of murders a city has. Chicago ranks top or close to the top of all major cities when it comes to the number of police officers per capita.
11/07/2012 12:31:00 AM
You forget that in other "big" cities they have multiple jurisdictions patrolling, where our government is choosing to eliminate county sheriffs. Look at the big picture and not what is spoon fed to you by the politicians. Remember, trust, but verify.
You are dreaming if you think hiring more police officers will have any effect on the murder rate in Chicago. There is no relationship between the number of police officers and the number of murders a city has. Chicago ranks top or close to the top of all major cities when it comes to the number of police officers per capita.
Thanks for the input Mr. Mayor.
There are way too many people dressing up like police and collecting police pay, but not doing police work.
I still find it funny how coppers, pushing a beat car and running from job to job, bitch and moan about the "insiders". That is, of course, until THEY get a spot inside.
Now suddenly it's all legit!
The first recruit class will graduate december 14th. The 45 recruits will be assigned to the Michigan Ave detail for the holidays and skip FTO training. In Jan hopefully they might receive training. There is no way HR can find enough qualified recruits to reach 500 or even 400 by the end of the year. The academy has around 220 recruits. There are 2 more classes expected for the academy. The next one at the end of Nov and the middle of Dec. Tracy made promises to Rahm that cannot be fulfilled. Not one word from Mccarthy about the hiring process. What a waste of an opportunity to hire more officers.
11/07/2012 08:51:00 PM
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Why doesn't she call back those that failed her first power test.
In years past people were given two opportunities to pass.
On top of the fact that many failed it because they were only given one or two weeks notice that it was scheduled for them.
I know, I know, they should have known better and been in shape already but these are people that took a written test in Dec 2010 and had moved on to other career's cause they had not heard from the city. So, no they had no expectation that this was coming up.
The other area of failure is that stupid polygraph test.
STOP lying about anything people.
If you do not lie and are open and upfront, then you have a better chance of passing.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I have a serious and maybe stupid question it really doesn't affect me because I'm only 42 and will retire at 50. Does obamcare if it takes affect override the insurance for the guys that retired at 55 with insurance from city
11/07/2012 03:23:00 PM
I've wondered the same thing! I'm so close and yet so far. Just turned 52!
11/07/2012 06:09:00 PM
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Obamacare is going to affect EVERYONE!
Currently your health benefits are not taxed $$.
Under Obamacare they will be taxed for everyone that has healthcare.
Police per capita (otherwise known as the police - population ration or PPR) is recognized as a meaningless statistic by academics and KNOWLEDGEABLE practitioners because of the variation in jurisdictions.
Will Rahm's minions please stay the fuck off the blog.
All you boys and girls are missing the point. It doesn't matter how many police officers you hire if you don't teach them how to be the police and then actually let them be the police. If the jagoffs don't respect your authority or fear some retribution for their actions, you are powerless as an officer.
Yeah, I know we are the kinder, gentler police, because that's what our spineless leaders and liberal citizens want. but that's the entire problem in a nutshell
Wanna bet we break retirement record once Obamacare kicks in?? Don't have to stick around for 55 years old then.... Why stay !!!
just look at 016--- they have been sending cars from other districts to help out on 1st and 3rd watch because 016 has been bled dry--- why are no bid spots open ?????--- if we have enough manpower then it should be easy enough to open up bids city wide and staff some of these districts who have not had openings for years....
We always seem to get upset that the media doesn't report the realty of how many people are retiring and how little are getting hired in CPD. There is no doubt that the safety of citizens is greatly affected with this lack of manpower. But the fact is that the citizens just don't care. We as officers need to wake up and for our own sanity, stop beating our heads against the wall. If the Chicago voters had a ballot measure today, they would proudly vote to reduce our numbers. The media doesn't care, the citizens of Chicago don't care. If they could reduce us to 5,000 they would. If we think the public has our back, we are kidding ourselves. Even if the media reported the true numbers of staff levels, people wouldn't care anyway.
11/07/2012 12:26:00 PM
Some citizens DO care. Don't write us all off because a large portion of Chicago residents are uneducated, unemployed, illegal and anti-police. There are many others that DO support Chicago police officers, do care about your pensions, the fact you often work one person to a car and are constantly thwarted by McCarty and Rahmn.
My neighbors and I are very involved with our local PD. We vote, we petition, we call 911, we watch over our neighbors and we do what we can to try to increase your workforce and support your work. The media however, is not on your side nor on the side of Chicago citizens. Don't lump us all into your "Chicago voters don't care" box. We are as outraged and upset about the corruption and ineptitude of the powers that be as you are. But we are also overridden by the larger majority of uneducated and ignorant Chicago voters. Sadly, this election showed me it is time to leave the city.
SCC Fan
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Anonymous said...
I have a serious and maybe stupid question it really doesn't affect me because I'm only 42 and will retire at 50. Does obamcare if it takes affect override the insurance for the guys that retired at 55 with insurance from city
11/07/2012 03:23:00 PM
I've wondered the same thing! I'm so close and yet so far. Just turned 52!
11/07/2012 06:09:00 PM
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Obamacare is going to affect EVERYONE!
Currently your health benefits are not taxed $$.
Under Obamacare they will be taxed for everyone that has healthcare.
11/08/2012 06:45:00 AM
Yeah,and our insurance is so great that officers and their family members are constantly having claims denied. We pay,they deny. Are you blaming the president for that?
Obama care. The bill N Pelosi says no one has to read it (herself included) --- just pass it and vote YES. Sadly, the incompetents that were voted-in by the public listened to the instructions of "don't read the bill, just pass it." What are their (congress) health care benefits??? Do they get denied diagnostic tests like the police and their families??? This is just the tip of the iceberg and it will get worse for all middle class workers when Obamacare gets into full swing. The people who will benefit are the doles that don't pay anything into now.
just axin
People that failed the POWER test are getting a second chance!
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