Chicago v New York
- New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg was crowing.
"The number of murders this year will be lower than any time in recorded city history," Bloomberg said Friday in a statement announcing that homicides in the city this year had fallen to 414 — the fewest since it started keeping such statistics in 1963.
About the same time Friday, Chicago police were trying to get the message out that their city hadn't actually recorded its 500th homicide this year, as was being reported. A few hours later, they had to backtrack and acknowledge that, yes, in fact, "the city has seen its 500th homicide for 2012."
That's right: There were more homicides this year in Chicago than in New York, a city with three times the population. That means Chicagoans were proportionally 3.7 times more likely to be homicide victims than New Yorkers were in 2012
McCarthy watch is in full swing. Remember, when Rahm says he has full confidence in Garry and no plans to replace him, 72 hours is the over/under.
Labels: crime
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
190 Comments:
Yeah, but can you buy a Super Big Gulp there???!!! I didn't think so!!
RAHM-HOG DAY IS COMING!
If Rahm steps off the plane, sees his shadow and runs back inside the Downtown Tower of Bullshit it means 52 more weeks of shootings!
We got's to get's these assault weapons off the streets! The large magazines too. KEEP REPEATING IT!
Like if we had banned them the 500 Chicago homicides would be reduced by...ummm reduced by...re...oh never mind.
Almost every one of these mass murders there's a suicidal person behind them. So what does Rahm do? He closes mental health centers that may intervene in time and sends up an assault weapon ban smokescreen.
Nice job jackazz. What are you retarded?
But were they inside or outside homicides? Was there an increase in the decrease of the increase? How do you know do much about squirrels??
HOMICIDE RATE PER 100,000 POPULATION - 2012
New York City (414---8,175,133) = 5.1
Chicago (500---2,695,598) = 18.5
Number of Homicides-2012---2010 U.S. Census Bureau decennial population data in parentheses. Homicide count is preliminary.
Hello: "central casting..."
Bloomberg is rubbing this in 'way past the point of -- well, it could never have been called "gentlemanly ribbing" like a Chicago-pizza-vs.-New-York-pastrami sports bet, as the subject is literally deadly serious.
Bloomberg is trying to shove Rahm off dead center to do something.
We know who's going. What scares me is who's coming?
Question: does the woman killed in the arson in lawndale count as a homicide or fire-non criminal for the year?
They just had McGraspingAtStraws on CNN. The guy is a GOOF.
Somebody better call Ceasefire and get them working.
Yeah but we're getting a $55 mil. dollar park WITH THE NAME "DALEY" ON IT!
That's more important then people.
NYC doesn't have anything with the name Daley on it so this will help attract the tourist.
We need the tourist to park in the $6.50 an hour parking places and pay for the inflated gasoline.
Soon to gamble in the downtown casino's after we talk all the union workers into taking cuts because we have no money and are all in this together.
(Shhhh, don't talk about the money the casino will generate until AFTER we get all the give backs on the union worker contracts. The pay cuts, health care cuts, pension cuts, that we hide by using the label "reform")
Watch. "we have no money, we have no money" Oh the contracts are done and the give backs have been legalized? Oh look here's a casino and we have some money now. Look at all this money. Oh-no not for you..for our friends to dole out on no-bid city contracts. Woo-hoo.
"we are so happy to do this for you"
Oh and the $300,000 per mile bike paths (if we ever get the paint on the lanes right)
All these programs from the socialists are undercover reparations. Now work so the welfare class can collect.
Man, when is the media going to wake up and call him on his BS Stats? How is crime down with 500 murders a day plus 10-12 robberies a day. ?? Plus all the other stuff?
I'm actually looking forward to reading his book.
MCJERSEY MR. NEW YORK
Rahmbooooooo= Fool Mensch
What kind of fool is going to turn in what once was about a $400 assault weapon that now goes for $2,000 on the street thanx to Rahm, Quinn, Obama, and the rest of the political apparatus.
Trade a $2,000 weapon in for a $100 Walmart gift card? Only if it's broken right?
(youtube) LAPD gun buyback turns up two rocket launchers
Now a rocket launcher...
You see this is why we need to register these rocker launchers so that when any of them are traded, sold or lost we will know where they are!
Shut the border down if you're gonna ban weapons.
Can't have it both ways Rahm, Quinn.
How's the drug ban been working out as you piss away the taxpayers treasure on that?
Using that crisis are we?
Gary Schenkel USMC New SUPT
The murder rate is going to make rahm emanuel look real bad if he decides to run for president. He has no credibility to fight crime because he doesn't know what he's doing and neither does McCarthy.
I blame Mayor Evil One more than I blame McCarthy. Not hiring enough cops to patrol this town is criminal. The city always has money to waste on bikes lanes, a new city park for the late Maggie Daley, and now $1 Million to put veggie gardens in public schools. Always money for things that make the Evil One look good. If you plan to live in this town you had better be packing or have a really good escape route when the Mutant Gangsters are chasing your arce down the street.
OT:
Congress using the cover of the holidays to sneak thru various bills.
Nothing to see here folks, oh look over there at the shiny New Years stuff..lol
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Criminal Roundup, 12/29
In the you know how it is column, we have the following.
First, Eric (Place)Holder received some "unexpected" support from -- you guessed it -- Democrats in Congress, who used the cover the holidays to file the following:
A little-noticed brief filed last Thursday by House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Ranking Member Elijah Cummings and fellow Democrats John Conyers, Jr., Henry A. Waxman, Edolphus Towns and Louise M. Slaughter, asks the United States District Court for the District of Columbia to dismiss without prejudice the civil complaint by the Oversight Committee against Eric Holder following the Attorney General being found in contempt of Congress for refusing to produce subpoenaed documents related to the Fast and Furious gunwalking investigation.
This is, because, well, the chief law enforcement officer of the country shouldn't actually have to obey the law. That's for us peasants, you see.
Next we have the NY Shooter. Yes, that one; the wonderful nice guy who shot and killed firefighters -- after lighting a fire on purpose. The media has been oddly silent about this "mass shooting", and with good reason: This clown did 17 years in prison for killing his 92-year old grandmother with a hammer, and we let him out.
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=215445
There's you "BROKEN WINDOWS BULLSHIT" that the laws matter.
Meanwhile as the "fiscal cliff" drama is ratcheted up who wants to make a bet that a last minute deal is done at something like 4am in the morning there too, while taxpayers are either loaded from NYE celebration or fast asleep and away from their TV's and radio's
You know that they don't want you to see what's in the bills coming up.
Heh "Fast and Furious" kabuki theater -- getting these assault weapons off the streets. Yeah right.
What a joke it all is.
McGoof seems to have out lived his uselessness. No amount booty kissing will save him. he's headed for the skids !!
Oh and the $300,000 per mile bike paths (if we ever get the paint on the lanes right)
12/30/2012 12:55:00 AM
I read something a little back that said Rahm found some leftover NATO money.
Here!:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/17/nato-summit-funds-nutriti_n_2317505.html
Boy how Obama paid and helped out Rham. But Rham would rather spend millions of leftover money on a bullshit gardening project instead of ever fixing or erecting a fence for the officers who work at the old 007. What a shame Thor had to die and nothing was ever done by the city to make sure nohting like that ever happened again. All I see is some bullshit wooden police horses put up. What a joke. Remember that next time you work Violence on your day off hard chargers bringing in numbers for a city that doesn't give a fuck about you.
Maybe he and his smarmy ass can room with Jody until he finds a new job sweeping floors in a pscyhe ward or something.
Because this guy's career will be toast, unless of course the Full Tutu gives him a Homeland Security job with Mike Masters. MMM.
Ok what we do know is that there are 500+ homicides for 2012. What we do NOT KNOW is how many thousands of people were shot and survived in Shitcawgo this year? I would love to see the agg batt / handgun stats they must be thru the roof that's why no mention of them!! BUT crime is down in those hand picked categories so not too worry!! LMFAO
Anonymous said...
But were they inside or outside homicides? Was there an increase in the decrease of the increase? How do you know do much about squirrels??
12/30/2012 12:23:00 AM
Get it straight already. The innies are increasing, and the outties are decreasing. Or is it vice versa? Don't concern yourself with homicide numbers--all the rest of the crime in the city is in an increasing decreasing pattern.
Didn't Bloomberg make fun of Rahm with some similar comments not long ago? What's the ill will due to (other than they're both assholes)? Did they have a specific run-in over something? Funny as hell. Rahm must hate Bloomberg, otherwise he'd have copied the taxes on Big Gulps and infant formula or whatever the hell it is.
How many of the 500 were caused by Assault weapon, extended magazine Pilgrims?
How many were caused by Democrat/Socialist driven minorities?
Bloomberg has Rudy's racist Stop&Frisk policies to thank for the crime reduction. There's nothing but cowardice preventing the implementation of Terry vs Ohio in Chicago or nationwide. The actual problem is not enough important Liberals like Bloomy live in Chicago to get away with it.
Every time I see McClownfish on tv I swear he must be on meds. He's got a very flat affect.
BTW, how's that lawsuit against the Chicago Crime Commission (Jfled) coming?
Don't forget the dirty secret.....Chicago has a more savage population then any other place in the country. Order was maintained for decades through fear.
They no longer fear the police because the establishment needs their votes more then they need the police to function properly.
off topic
Thanks cfd for jamming a copper last night....let police do their job on scene and not demand to dui someone...we do not do your job for you....
How much money has the city saved since we have not any measureable snow in 270 days?
I believe Lovie Smith will get fired before McLush.
Anonymous said...
I'm actually looking forward to reading his book.
12/30/2012 01:14:00 AM
I have a book. It is a good book. I started reading it. It is a very good book. My Chief of Staff was reading it to me. Most of my Chief's of Staff were reading it to me. Now I have no Chief of Staff. Maggie used to throw it at me. I miss being Mayor.
Richard M Daley
Anonymous said...
Yeah but we're getting a $55 mil. dollar park WITH THE NAME "DALEY" ON IT!
That's more important then people.
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I'd rather have toilet paper with the name "DALEY" on it. For when I go and take a "DALEY"
Tiny D should wear the total like a badge of honor. That JO has money for every pet project under the sun, but not a penny for more Police. He has blood on his tutu...
Can you say puppet. Wake up you think the next supt. will be able to make any decisions on his own.
Schenkel won't get to be new Supt cuz he'd intimidate 9.5 and emasculate McNoballs. Gary was my ADS in 026 over 10 years ago. The guy is smart, friendly, professional, and wood kick most excepts behinds. It makes far too much sense to have a decorated marine run the show. Colonel is good peeps!!!!!
ok 500 killed, whats the total shot- actually had skin contact with a bullet my guess 2500 to 3000 or am i way off ?
MCNUT said that crime is down and Chicago needs MORE GUN LAWS.....
Somebody better call Ceasefire and get them working.
12/30/2012 12:55:00 AM
Most likely they would say "We are working, if not for us you would be nearing the 600 mark"
No way to measure the decrease in the increase.
Wait till I start dropping motherfuckers around your 55 million dollar sign.
Chalkie
My wife and I are both CPD. Our son suffers from seizures which most of the time we can handle. But our 6 year old son had an episode where he wasn't coming around. We called 911 and CFD responded IMMEDIATELY! Stabilized our son and took him to the Hospital where he was admitted for 3 days. Thank you from the bottoms of our hearts CFD!!! Our beef is that we assumed the city waived ambulance fees for FAMILY of CPD and CFD. Keep getting threatening notices from the city that we will be sued or loose our jobs! We both work in districts where numerous idiots are shot every fuckin day. Do they pay for services rendered by CFD? Sorry but blood starting to boil again! FUCK THIS SHIT!!!!!!!
McCarthy disbanded MSF and TRU, and more people were murdered.
Gary. Kills. People.
I'll take the over only because Rahm is disingenuous and could only admit a mistake due to a public outcry. Sadly, probably due to media indifference until recent, the public does not seem to be aroused.
What percentage of NYC is "students", "youths", "young people", or "teens" compared with Chicago? Could that be part of it?
Stop with the schnkel for supt. the guy couldn't run the academy let alone the whole dept. he was a huge hypocrite and would be the worst of the last 3 supt.
If mC whatever leaves Tracy will take his place, rhambo doesn't trust chgo guys.
He Gone!
I think I got it.
Bloomberg is putting this material out --
"There were more homicides this year in Chicago than in New York, a city with three times the population. That means Chicagoans were proportionally 3.7 times more likely to be homicide victims than New Yorkers were in 2012."
...so that means we need to copy New York City's gun laws.
McCarthy just put it out on radio news, sound bite "Now, take New York. New York has strict gun laws."
There it is.
Bloomberg/Emanuel/McCarthy -- one gun-banning mind, one voice.
The animals should be able to add to this number just for good measure before the stroke of midnight Jan 1. However, I suspect anything close to midnight will be credited to 2013.
Keep up the smoke and mirrors!
OT: Politicians here are fighting over the "fiscal cliff"
Imagine living in a socialist country like France, the tax rate for the wealthy is 75% and they are leaving the country in droves. Cook County looks good by comparison.
Hey if homicides were down i wouldnt get to annoy everyone about how many days of vri im getting.
mg
Sneethen for new Supt.can I get an amen?
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Somebody better call Ceasefire and get them working.
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I need another million.
- Tio Hardiman
Gary Schenkel USMC New SUPT great another non police being head of police
O?T a bit - but didnt hear aout this in main stream media - another theater shooting.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Two-wounded-in-theater-shooting-4122668.php#ixzz2GOP72zBX
What a silly question. Read your Incident Reporting Guide.
2 case reports, 2 #'s, Homicide and Agg Arson
New York City (414---8,175,133) = 5.1
Chicago (500---2,695,598) = 18.5
McGoof is a product the NYPD CrimeStat system and is using it here.
Google "Schoolcraft scandal".
Seems that much of NYC crime reduction was nothing more than creative manipulated numbers.
If Chicago's numbers can't be trusted, then NY's have to treated with suspicion also.
Garry McLair, Mcnutsack, McGraspingAtStraws, McBimbo, Mcthemayordoesntmicromanageme, McJersey, McCompstat, Mcshithole, Mcwifebeater, Mcwifecheater, Mcrahmsbitch. Will be fired or resign from the Chicago Police Department as of the 01 January 2013 and will run the security for Chicago Public Schools.
You heard it here first.
But let's look at what Chiago HAS accomplished:
We have invited all of the Third World countries in with our "Sanctuary City" promise of no prosecution.
We will give illegals a drivers license to make it even easier to vote in a Country in which they are here, you know, illegaly.
We have empowered our youth by not sending them to prison for violent acts for any meaningful ammount of time. Catch and release.
We have saved the taxpayers money by letting the Police Department members fall to dangerously low numberes.
We have kept guns from law abiding citizens. Only criminals have guns in Chicago and we take in more illegal guns than any other City.
None of our politicians have been accosted in decades becaus we provide them with dozens of armed police offices. We even let them keep them after they retire.
.......hey, wait a minute....
From now until the end of time the people in the ghetto will continue to kill each other. It makes no difference who is steering the ship...
Rahm's North Shore values don't seem to be working here in Chicago. I guess you can't lie and swindle your way into lower homicide numbers. Telling savages to take it to the alley didn't seem to work too well either.
Could there be a reasonable solution like, I don't know, hiring more police and not wasting money on Cease Fire convicts who do nothing?
Gary Schenkel is a POG Marine Officer. He was never a law enforcement officer ANYWHERE. We need someone who has actually done my job and knows what it's like, not some pencil pusher.
Hopefully, if everyone does their part, we can beat the 2008 record of 513!!
YES WE CAN!!!!
Who would anyone want to work homicides in this city?
-ERI
-ASA looking over your interview. "Ask him this or that."
-Endless Felony Review To Do list
-Begging witnesses to come to the Area to wait for the ASA for four hours to make a decision whether to write his statement
-Then finding the same winesses for more interviews or the grand jury
-25 page reports
-Police shootings where most of the POLICE say they didn't see anything
-30 page reports
-waiting for the one man Crime Lab on a winter scene for 3 hours
-aunties constantly calling and asking why did the multiple convicted just released victim get kilt.
Just go to RBT or SVU and avoid all this bullshit.
rham is a silver spoon napoleon wantbe. he he so out of touch with working class families.
Rahm should be returning from Viet Nam soon. He's been there and probably courted their Minister of Public Security, Nguyen Duc Nhanh, as a replacement for Mc499. The entire country claims less annual murders than Englewood had in (any) July.
Mc499 spouted off that the media "shouldn't be announcing death tolls Vietnam style, it makes "us" look bad."
Leave him alone with a Mr. McMicrophone and this is what we get.
So funny I LOL'd out loud.
who do you replace gmac with ????--- possum head and the situation ran all the good bosses off and we know that bringing in bosses from outside the cpd has not worked--- the cpd needs leadership and gmac is not delivering the goods....
Get the money back from Ceasefire, get rid of McCarthy, hire more cops. Let cops take the gloves off. Get a contract, quit fucking with pensions and retirement ages. Truth in sentencing. Stop voting in all these liberal judges election after election. Problem solved.
Anonymous said...
Gary Schenkel USMC New SUPT
12/30/2012 01:37:00 AM
This shameless self-promotion is very un-Marine-like, Mr. Schenkel.
McLazarus will fix it, you watch.
Somewhere, J-Fled is smiling
FIRST THINGS FIRST
"Rahm, it's a good thing you're still out of town." -- SCC
Oh, this is a very busy working weekend -- not regarding homicide, but about "gay marriage."
This article is yet anther one that's like turning over a rock. The phrase "Illinois business leaders" has become code for "The Combine." I'm surprised Rahm's pal Bruce Rauner (huge "Democratic" contributor being groomed as next "Republican" governor) isn't mentioned here.
"Over the weekend, President Barack Obama signaled his support, and Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel [is] asking CEOs to [support it.]
"I've called anywhere from nine to a dozen (CEOs)," Emanuel said. "And everybody is a personal 'yes.'
"The most important corporate backer may be Fred Eychaner, the Chicago media mogul and arts champion who...is the primary funder for the public relations campaign, which is managed by ASGK Public Strategies.
"Eychaner appears to be the largest Democratic donor in the 2012 election cycle, giving $14 million...another funder is Laura Ricketts, a co-owner of the Chicago Cubs, who set a goal of raising $1 million for Obama this election cycle...
"But ASGK's behind-the-scenes role is new, and the trio of nonprofits is not paying what must be a significant sum for ASGK's services. (David Axelrod co-founded ASGK and then sold his stake in 2009 after becoming a top White House adviser to Obama.)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-illinois-gay-marriage-20121230,0,589950.story
"How's the drug ban been working out"
12/30/2012 01:21:00 AM
"Sssh sssh sssh dont look here look over there NOT here look over there NOT here look over there NOT here look look look over there over there oh-yes oh-yes oh-yes oh-no oh-no oh-no woo-hoo woo-hoo woo-hoo."
Jesus.
You tell us, guy.
Anonymous said...
Gary Schenkel USMC New SUPT
12/30/2012 01:37:00 AM
I hope not. He knows even less about being the police than that idiot Weiss.
Signed,
0351
Got one in 005. M/1 shot in the head on 109th st. Dial in the alley
Maybe we should ban big gulps.
Bloomberg is an idiot also. In order to be a big city mayor these days you need to be liberal and half retarded.
Let's be honest here folks. Bring back MSF and TRU. MSF officers are about as aggressive as can be. On a daily basis these young, dynamic and aggressive officers went in to some of the most dangerous neighborhoods and made their presence known.
Mr. Mayor if you want the murder rate to decline, then bring back MSF & TRU.
Rahmbo used that full confidence line on our ex Bd. of Ed guy too. Shortly thereafter the guy was gone. Expect the same fate for McFailure.
The problem will be that most likely Rahm will seek a like minded individual to continue on with Rahm's agenda of fucking with us and further destroying this once great department.
Hey Shitcagoans, quit goofing off and get that homicide count over the line!! no reason to slack off when ya hit 500, let's go for a fun weekend and like 515 or so.
INCONVENIENT FACT
"How many of the dead are due to assault rifles and how many due to handguns?"
12/28/2012 06:23:00 AM
"Exactly 1 (one) is by rifle and it doesn't say whether it is an assault rifle or not. Doesn't matter, Rahm can get political mileage out of it for future runs at high political office..."
12/29/2012 11:52:00 AM
...or lateral moves back into banking/deleterious NGOs while steering events along through the Inner Party Rolodex. These people are on 20 corporate boards at once.
Look at the Queen Ant, Valerie Jarrett -- the one that's inextricably set up 15 feet under your front lawn with tens of thousands of workers scurrying around her, grooming her with their feelers and feeding her "honeydew."
"Valerie Jarrett was born in Shiraz, Iran to American parents, James E. Bowman and Barbara Taylor Bowman...she married Dr. William Robert Jarrett, son of famed Chicago Sun-Times reporter Vernon Jarrett...Vernon Jarrett was a one time political associate of Communist Party USA activist and Obama mentor Frank Marshall Davis...Valerie Jarrett is the great niece of prominent Democratic Party leftist Vernon Jordan...Her maternal grandfather was Robert Taylor, the first black chairman of the Chicago Housing Authority...went to the exclusive University of Chicago Lab School...went to work for Chicago’s first African-American mayor, Harold Washington...stayed on under his successor, Richard Daley...she...recruited Michelle Robinson, then engaged to Barack Obama..."
http://keywiki.org/index.php/Valerie_Jarrett
Here we find the very namesake of the projects. Unbelievable.
On, and on, and on -- money and power and connections beyond counting and still grabbing, clawing, clutching for more, more, more...
this is how Tiny and the streetlightmarksman do it with the #'s
this will be standard issue in the future for police superintendents
here it is!
: http://www.magickits.com/Vincent-The-Magician-Kit-w-Video-Instructions.html
just wave your "wand" and Wa-La crime is down
New Yorks numbers are bullshit, don't believe them.
Homicide #501: 109th & Eberhart
I Know Area North is hiding a couple til after the new year! How bout the other areas?
Those casinos are for the kids!Right?
That's the nail right on the head these are mental health issues and thats where the time and effort should go.
Actually had a citizen call the area asking about how homicides are counted. Sheeple waking up?
#500 Nathaniel T. Jackson. I hope for Nate's family he can hold onto the title. It's nice to be remembered for something.
The problem is that nobody blames McCarthy or the Mayor.
The real problem is that they blame the over-paid police officer.
We will get a "nothing" contract thanks to these numbers.
I'm really looking forward to concealed carry here in Illinois. I'd love to be a fly on the wall to see these Ilinois liberals squirm and choke on their own bile as they write and pass a cc bill.
:)
Yeah and four times the amount of cops we have
Let their records speak for themselves!
Rahm: hey Garry, we hit 500?
GMac: Uh, yeah.....
Rahm: well, dammit, take one off....make some poor slob a death investigation!
GMac:....uh, okay.....but, we just one or two more.....now what?
Rahm:..I'll tell you now what!...how can I get to the White House leading the nation in homicides?.....well, I'll do like Barry...just give stuff away to folks who kind of....just vote for folks who give them stuff....
God Save Us All.
Well at least mctalk has bragging rights on eliminating the giants from the play offs. How about that!
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How much money has the city saved since we have not any measureable snow in 270 days?
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Probably zero hundred thousand dollars.
17:12 hrs. 51 Indiana, one dead. That what 504?
How many Amish and Swedes were involved in this murder mayhem?
Just axin
According to the ny daily news the other day, ny just had 1,150 graduate from their academy. Cpd just had a class of 40.
12/30/2012 09:03:00 AM
Use to be that FOP would intercede and have these ambulance bills waived, but things change.
Maybe they can find another $55mil
to buy a few more votes -
Murder, money and politics in Chicago
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/category/chicago-killings/
CNN's Drew Griffin investigates an anti-violence program in Chicago that cost millions without reducing crime.
Yes, the McCarthy haters are in full swing, but nothing will happen. Homicides are up in this town, the highest wince 2008, but few recall when in the 70s and 80s we had well over 800 and some years over 900. Who was the superintendent then ? Who complained? Was anyone demoted or moved? Do you really think that anyone who is currently in a leadership position could do any better under the circumstances? Do you want Uncle Terry back or Fat Phil or Rodriguez or any of the other politcal hacks that Daley appointed? This town has the biggest gang problem in the country which drives the homicide rate. No one under these circumstances would do any better. Such whinning is exhausting.Dont forget, McCarthy is doing the same thing that the commish or NUPD is doing, the same strategy, the same philosophy. We have more cops per capita then the next top five cities. Blame the judges and prosecutors for some of this.Blame the merit promotion system. Why hang everything on the head of a professional cop and a damn good cop, McCarthy. And, no, I am not related and I do not know him.
Anonymous said...
The murder rate is going to make rahm emanuel look real bad if he decides to run for president. He has no credibility to fight crime because he doesn't know what he's doing and neither does McCarthy.
12/30/2012 02:04:00 AM
Thank you for your insight and professional opinion. Since you know so much why dont you run for mayor or ask the mayor to be the next superintendent or start a consulting firm? I am sure people will flock to your doors?
Get the money back from Ceasefire, get rid of McCarthy, hire more cops. Let cops take the gloves off. Get a contract, quit fucking with pensions and retirement ages. Truth in sentencing. Stop voting in all these liberal judges election after election. Problem solved.
your right...no more outsiders..
Seems that much of NYC crime reduction was nothing more than creative manipulated numbers.
If Chicago's numbers can't be trusted, then NY's have to treated with suspicion also.
12/30/2012 10:38:00 AM
BS. Just goes to show how little you really know.
Anonymous said...
Don't forget the dirty secret.....Chicago has a more savage population then any other place in the country. Order was maintained for decades through fear.
They no longer fear the police because the establishment needs their votes more then they need the police to function properly.
12/30/2012 07:07:00
Now someone is speaking the truth, and those days will never come back, never.The genie is out of the bottle and you cant put him back in.
Just go to RBT or SVU and avoid all this bullshit.
12/30/2012 11:06:00 AM
Trust me, RBT sucks just as bad.
Anonymous said...
FIRST THINGS FIRST
"Rahm, it's a good thing you're still out of town." -- SCC
Oh, this is a very busy working weekend -- not regarding homicide, but about "gay marriage."
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If they're going to allow gay marriage, then why not allow polygamists to marry? What's the difference?
Give me a break with Schenkel is a marine, make him supe. WTF does being a marine have to do with it. Hillard gets vilified on here, he was a Marine. A person can lead or they can't. Every Marine isn't superman, and believe me I respect all service (I was in the Army) no matter the branch.
People are all over the map, Weis, not a cop but years in law enforcement, universally hated (I was not a fan). Schenkel, not a cop, no PD experience except the Academy and OEMC. I like the guy but which is it? Ex police or not? Through the ranks or outsider. I think that no matter who is in charge, the disgruntled will hate him or her.
Let me ask a question of all the Hillard, cline, Weis and McCarthy haters. Has there ever been a supe that you liked?
Looks like someone "brought it to the alley" in Roseland!!
Rahm should be happy they are taking his advice.
Almost every one of these mass murders there's a suicidal person behind them. So what does Rahm do? He closes mental health centers that may intervene in time and sends up an assault weapon ban smokescreen.
Nice job jackazz. What are you retarded?
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These places were closed because there's no money to fund them. No city money, no state money, no federal money. Also insurance carriers won't pay for in patient mental health treatment (most of the time). For governmental agencies to pay means higher taxes. Are you willing to pay?
Now, if we could get the Maggie park money and the cease fire money and the flower pot money we MIGHT be able to reopen a mental health facility or two to reopen.
Add another murder in 002
Anonymous said...
My wife and I are both CPD. Our son suffers from seizures which most of the time we can handle. But our 6 year old son had an episode where he wasn't coming around. We called 911 and CFD responded IMMEDIATELY! Stabilized our son and took him to the Hospital where he was admitted for 3 days. Thank you from the bottoms of our hearts CFD!!! Our beef is that we assumed the city waived ambulance fees for FAMILY of CPD and CFD. Keep getting threatening notices from the city that we will be sued or loose our jobs! We both work in districts where numerous idiots are shot every fuckin day. Do they pay for services rendered by CFD? Sorry but blood starting to boil again! FUCK THIS SHIT!!!!!!!
12/30/2012 09:03:00 AM
They DO! You just have to call them and tell them you are CPD.
My wife and I are both CPD. Our son suffers from seizures which most of the time we can handle. But our 6 year old son had an episode where he wasn't coming around. We called 911 and CFD responded IMMEDIATELY! Stabilized our son and took him to the Hospital where he was admitted for 3 days. Thank you from the bottoms of our hearts CFD!!! Our beef is that we assumed the city waived ambulance fees for FAMILY of CPD and CFD. Keep getting threatening notices from the city that we will be sued or loose our jobs! We both work in districts where numerous idiots are shot every fuckin day. Do they pay for services rendered by CFD? Sorry but blood starting to boil again! FUCK THIS SHIT!!!!!!!
Glad to hear your son is going to be ok,,that's the most important thing. As far as the bill goes, it's still free. I'm sorry, but I forgot were, but on a department computer, you can get a form that needs to be filled out. It states were it needs to be sent to, but untill they get the B/S will keep coming. Similar situation with me, but it worked out. Good luck
Okay, no one answered up last time. Does anyone know if JJ Jr. Has an FOID Card? Or maybe the D.C. equivalent?
Anonymous said...
Who would anyone want to work homicides in this city?
-ERI
-ASA looking over your interview. "Ask him this or that."
-Endless Felony Review To Do list
-Begging witnesses to come to the Area to wait for the ASA for four hours to make a decision whether to write his statement
-Then finding the same winesses for more interviews or the grand jury
-25 page reports
-Police shootings where most of the POLICE say they didn't see anything
-30 page reports
-waiting for the one man Crime Lab on a winter scene for 3 hours
-aunties constantly calling and asking why did the multiple convicted just released victim get kilt.
Just go to RBT or SVU and avoid all this bullshit.
A great post. To be honest the only good thing about homicide is the victim. Usually they won't fuck up the case. Used to be best job in the city. Now you get micromanaged from 35 th st so much it's a joke. You have to convince yourself to not care about 98% of the victims.
PS a 1 month old dead today on south east side. Some head trauma 1 month olds can't even move it didn't do it to itself don't expect this to be a murder area south can't take another open homicide.
My wife and I are both CPD. Our son suffers from seizures which most of the time we can handle. But our 6 year old son had an episode where he wasn't coming around. We called 911 and CFD responded IMMEDIATELY! Stabilized our son and took him to the Hospital where he was admitted for 3 days. Thank you from the bottoms of our hearts CFD!!! Our beef is that we assumed the city waived ambulance fees for FAMILY of CPD and CFD. Keep getting threatening notices from the city that we will be sued or loose our jobs! We both work in districts where numerous idiots are shot every fuckin day. Do they pay for services rendered by CFD? Sorry but blood starting to boil again! FUCK THIS SHIT!!!!!!!
--Have you brought this issue to your Commander's Attention? The FOP? Maybe they could help.
Rahm should have been in Hue in early 1968 when I was.
old retired guy
w York City (414---8,175,133) = 5.1
Chicago (500---2,695,598) = 18.5
McGoof is a product the NYPD CrimeStat system and is using it here.
Google "Schoolcraft scandal".
Seems that much of NYC crime reduction was nothing more than creative manipulated numbers.
If Chicago's numbers can't be trusted, then NY's have to treated with suspicion also.
WOW you must be new....or a recruit. The schoolcraft scandal. This has been covered on this sifht extensively in the last year. Your coming to the game a little late.
Anonymous said...
My wife and I are both CPD. Our son suffers from seizures which most of the time we can handle. But our 6 year old son had an episode where he wasn't coming around. We called 911 and CFD responded IMMEDIATELY! Stabilized our son and took him to the Hospital where he was admitted for 3 days. Thank you from the bottoms of our hearts CFD!!! Our beef is that we assumed the city waived ambulance fees for FAMILY of CPD and CFD. Keep getting threatening notices from the city that we will be sued or loose our jobs! We both work in districts where numerous idiots are shot every fuckin day. Do they pay for services rendered by CFD? Sorry but blood starting to boil again! FUCK THIS SHIT!!!!!!!
12/30/2012 09:03:00 AM
First off, good luck with your son. I wish you the best. As to the ambulancebill, call the number on the bill. They will give you the number to the proper person at the city. They will explain the one page very simple form that you need to fax or mail in and the bill is taken care. I have a daughter with issues and I needed an ambulance about a year ago. The day after receiving the bill it was cleared with under 10 minutes of minimal effort. I too am CPD.
Dear Supt Mc499+1, Someone posted Homicide #501 in 005 today. Can we start naming the deceased after the Legendary Levi's 501button fly style?
Heres the LEVI'S Numbered styles --
# * 501 aka ... Button Fly
* 503 Skinny (women)
* 504 Slouch Straight (women)
* 505 Straight Leg
* 506 Standard Fit (men)
* 507 Boot Cut (Men)
* 508 Loose (Men)
* 509 Loose (Men)
* 511 Skinny (Men)
* 512 Boot Cut (Men)
* 512 Slim Fit (Men
* 514 Slim (Men)
* 514 Slouch Boot Cut (women)
* 515 Boot Cut (women)
* 516 Slim Fit (discontinued)
* 517 Boot Cut (men)
* 518 Superlow Boot Cut (women)
* 519 Flared (women)(discontinued)
* 519 Flared (women)(discontinued)
* 522 Stretch (men)
* 523 Straight Cut (men) (Thanks for the info Danny)
* 524 Classic Straight Cut (men)
* 525 Boot Cut (women)
off topic
Thanks cfd for jamming a copper last night....let police do their job on scene and not demand to dui someone...we do not do your job for you....
12/30/2012 07:17:00 AM
Sounds like an episode from Chicago Fire
09:30 Maybe instead of having your blood boil, one of you should just look in YOUR contract. Section 25.3 states that police officers and their eligible dependants get free ambulance service. You seem very naive about the world if you think the city can fire you for THEM violating the contract and you should tell the collection agency to quit calling you as you owe the city nothing, that they should call the city Glad you child is doing fine
To: 0903 hrs. I'm glad your Son is doing better. The City will pay the entire bill. Call Human Resources # (312) 745-5300 and ask them to mail you the form for CFD bill. Fill it out, attach a copy of the bill and hand carry it to Human Resources. You can give it to Civ. Hazel Darden and she will process it. Make yourself a copy for your records. Have a healthy, safe and happy New Year and thank you for everything you and your Wife do for all of us.
Anonymous said...
off topic
Thanks cfd for jamming a copper last night....let police do their job on scene and not demand to dui someone...we do not do your job for you....
12/30/2012 07:17:00 AM
Ok so a police officer was driving while under the influence and somehow it is someone else's fault? How about if you don't want to lose your job then you act like a responsible adult? I am sure he is going to find another job with the same wages and benefits as this one right?
It's so much safer in Chicago since Rahm shut down those mental health centers don't you think?
"Beller suffered burns to 90 percent of his body and was listed in critical condition at Mount Sinai before also being taken to Stroger. Two women, 60 and 84, were taken in fair-to-serious condition to Saint Anthony Hospital.
Authorities said the fire was being investigated as an arson, and that it appears someone poured an accelerant around the apartment and possibly on the children. Relatives have told investigators that someone in the house had mental issues and had threatened to burn down the house, according to authorities, citing preliminary information. "
NICE JOB RAHM!!!
Schenkel won't get to be new Supt cuz he'd intimidate 9.5 and emasculate McNoballs. Gary was my ADS in 026 over 10 years ago. The guy is smart, friendly, professional, and wood kick most excepts behinds. It makes far too much sense to have a decorated marine run the show. Colonel is good peeps!!!!!
What a no spelling ass kissing lackey you are. Cline booted that silly mf'er out the door remember?
This is the guy that has ran and screwed up OEMC now you want to give this idiot a chance at destroying CPD?
No thank you take that hoo rah propaganda elsewhere.
Anonymous said...
My wife and I are both CPD. Our son suffers from seizures which most of the time we can handle. But our 6 year old son had an episode where he wasn't coming around. We called 911 and CFD responded IMMEDIATELY! Stabilized our son and took him to the Hospital where he was admitted for 3 days. Thank you from the bottoms of our hearts CFD!!! Our beef is that we assumed the city waived ambulance fees for FAMILY of CPD and CFD. Keep getting threatening notices from the city that we will be sued or loose our jobs! We both work in districts where numerous idiots are shot every fuckin day. Do they pay for services rendered by CFD? Sorry but blood starting to boil again! FUCK THIS SHIT!!!!!!!
12/30/2012 09:03:00 AM
Went through this after an on the job crash and had a concussion, 3days in hospital. The city is a joke and can care less who you are. Best thing is to turn it over to your insurance, it's not a battle you want to undertake, it will get dirty.
Anonymous said...
Yeah, but can you buy a Super Big Gulp there???!!! I didn't think so!!
12/30/2012 12:22:00 AM
funny, but that may be the real reason homicides are down, the shitheads can't get hopped up on grape drink.
Hope they throw Rahm in the Hanoi Hilton. Eating bug soup sweetened with V/C urine will strengthen his Crusade to Socialize the City of Chicago! Don't help the poor better themselves , take the middle class and make them poor! Then they will become more dependent on the Government!
With all due respect to all the Marines out there pushing for Shenkel. This department should never hire someone who has never been the Police.
No disrespect to former Vets . I have the UTMOST Respect for you. Rahm is a vindictive , Napoleonic, scumbag and deserves the worst!
I really have to hand it to our district intelligence officers (aka commander drivers/coffeemakers/etc) they really got fine information not one has lead to a single arrest or stopped a gang bang shooting, sleeping with the enemies.
Anonymous said...
My wife and I are both CPD. Our son suffers from seizures which most of the time we can handle. But our 6 year old son had an episode where he wasn't coming around. We called 911 and CFD responded IMMEDIATELY! Stabilized our son and took him to the Hospital where he was admitted for 3 days. Thank you from the bottoms of our hearts CFD!!! Our beef is that we assumed the city waived ambulance fees for FAMILY of CPD and CFD. Keep getting threatening notices from the city that we will be sued or loose our jobs! We both work in districts where numerous idiots are shot every fuckin day. Do they pay for services rendered by CFD? Sorry but blood starting to boil again! FUCK THIS SHIT!!!!!!!
12/30/2012 09:03:00 AM
FOP can point you to the right person to forward your bambulance bill too. I had to do that to get it erased. Only took once.
On Sunday December 17, 2012, 2 days after the CT shooting, a man went to a restaurant in San Antonio to kill his X-girlfriend. After he shot her, most of the people in the restaurant fled next door to a theater. The gunman followed them and entered the theater so he could shoot more people. He started shooting and people in the theater started running and screaming. It’s like the Aurora, CO theater story plus a restaurant!
Now aren’t you wondering why this isn’t a lead story in the national media along with the school shooting?
There was an off duty county deputy at the theater. SHE pulled out her gun and shot the man 4 times before he had a chance to kill anyone. So since this story makes the point that the best thing to stop a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun, the media is treating it like it never happened.
Only the local media covered it. The city is giving her a medal next week. Just thought you’d like to know.
My wife and I are both CPD. Our son suffers from seizures which most of the time we can handle. But our 6 year old son had an episode where he wasn't coming around. We called 911 and CFD responded IMMEDIATELY! Stabilized our son and took him to the Hospital where he was admitted for 3 days. Thank you from the bottoms of our hearts CFD!!! Our beef is that we assumed the city waived ambulance fees for FAMILY of CPD and CFD. Keep getting threatening notices from the city that we will be sued or loose our jobs! We both work in districts where numerous idiots are shot every fuckin day. Do they pay for services rendered by CFD? Sorry but blood starting to boil again! FUCK THIS SHIT!!!!!!!
12/30/2012 09:03:00 AM
You have two options, one will help the other won't.
#1 Go to your district and get the form you send to the city for your ambulance bill, or
#2 Keep posting on a blog.
Anonymous said...
Every time I see McClownfish on tv I swear he must be on meds. He's got a very flat affect.
BTW, how's that lawsuit against the Chicago Crime Commission (Jfled) coming?
12/30/2012 07:00:00 AM
That is not flat-affect; it's a trick taught by personal coaches and media coaches.
If you raise your voice barely above a whisper and smile, people lean in toward you and they hang on your every (barely-perceptible) word. It's an attention-concentrating device.
Anonymous said...
Didn't Bloomberg make fun of Rahm with some similar comments not long ago? What's the ill will due to (other than they're both assholes)? Did they have a specific run-in over something? Funny as hell. Rahm must hate Bloomberg, otherwise he'd have copied the taxes on Big Gulps and infant formula or whatever the hell it is.
12/30/2012 06:51:00 AM
Yup. Bloomie slapped Rahm down on the Charlie Rose show a couple of weeks ago. This is the show Rahm used to announce his desire for the not-then-available Chicago mayoral position.
Hey Rahm, Wish you could of seen Vietnam the way many of seen it. But then again you were only about 10 prancing around in you leotards.
Read your fop contract. Ambulance service for CPD and family are covered.
Should come out with a new CHALKIE T-shirt w/ 500 WE DID IT!
For cfd fee forgiveness you gotta fill out a form its not automatic.
STILL LOVE HOW LOW L.A.'S NUMBERS ARE COMPARED TO OUR... not even to mention the fact that their population is larger than ours,,, if we had LA weather in chicago, we would be pushing 1,000 murders easy
My wife and I are both CPD. Our son suffers from seizures which most of the time we can handle. But our 6 year old son had an episode where he wasn't coming around. We called 911 and CFD responded IMMEDIATELY! Stabilized our son and took him to the Hospital where he was admitted for 3 days. Thank you from the bottoms of our hearts CFD!!! Our beef is that we assumed the city waived ambulance fees for FAMILY of CPD and CFD. Keep getting threatening notices from the city that we will be sued or loose our jobs! We both work in districts where numerous idiots are shot every fuckin day. Do they pay for services rendered by CFD? Sorry but blood starting to boil again! FUCK THIS SHIT!!!!!!!
12/30/2012 09:03:00 AM
You have two options, one will help the other won't.
#1 Go to your district and get the form you send to the city for your ambulance bill, or
#2 Keep posting on a blog.
12/30/2012 10:55:00 PM
I'm a citizen and read the blog so I know the true story about crime in the city. After seeing you officers treat each other so rudely on here for months (see above for most recent example), I have to finally ask, how you can expect citizens the average Joe to respect you when you treat each other with such disdain and disrespect? Very disheartening to see.
The response by 10:55 pm is uncalled for. If you won't respectfully help two fellow officers, why would I think you'd be any help to me if I ever need it?
Of course the way you treat each other also tells me there can't possibly be a "code of silence." You don't respect each other enough to cover for one another.
Anonymous said...
off topic
Thanks cfd for jamming a copper last night....let police do their job on scene and not demand to dui someone...we do not do your job for you....
12/30/2012 07:17:00 AM
Sounds like an episode from Chicago Fire
12/30/2012 07:41:00 PM
Exactly. The last episode I bothered to watch. Villianizing the police.
Anonymous said...
09:30 Maybe instead of having your blood boil, one of you should just look in YOUR contract. Section 25.3 states that police officers and their eligible dependants get free ambulance service. You seem very naive about the world if you think the city can fire you for THEM violating the contract and you should tell the collection agency to quit calling you as you owe the city nothing, that they should call the city Glad you child is doing fine
12/30/2012 07:45:00 PM
A contract is between decent honorable people. O'Neill, MLAS and the management of COD do not count as decent or honorable and must frequently be forced to live up to the provisions of the contract.
OEMC is a JOKE said...
Schenkel won't get to be new Supt cuz he'd intimidate 9.5 and emasculate McNoballs. Gary was my ADS in 026 over 10 years ago. The guy is smart, friendly, professional, and wood kick most excepts behinds. It makes far too much sense to have a decorated marine run the show. Colonel is good peeps!!!!!
What a no spelling ass kissing lackey you are. Cline booted that silly mf'er out the door remember?
This is the guy that has ran and screwed up OEMC now you want to give this idiot a chance at destroying CPD?
No thank you take that hoo rah propaganda elsewhere.
12/30/2012 08:41:00 PM
Anyone Cline booted out is very likely a very decent person and worthy of our respect. Look up in the blog all the poison shit that was written about bosses Cline promoted.
Cline booted Schenkel? A golden endorsement.
Thats a bs story that copper is saying about cfd making him DUI another copper. . That jaggoff copper just got a cr number on another police officer and is fucking hated by everyone in the district.
This Electric fiasco should be it's own thread...
it reminds me of the Parking Meter deal...
"... It was December 1, 2008. That morning would be the first time that the Chicago City Council would be formally notified that Mayor Richard Daley had struck a deal with Morgan Stanley to lease all of Chicago's parking meters for seventy-five years. The final amount of the bid was $1,156,500,000, a lump sum to be paid to the city of Chicago for seventy-five years' worth of parking meter revenue. "
What happened to all that money so that it caused the rate to go through the roof>>>>!
Re: Cease Fire
At Spencer elementary, one of Saturday's newscasts showed people praising CeaseFire's "many" successes.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
09:30 Maybe instead of having your blood boil, one of you should just look in YOUR contract. Section 25.3 states that police officers and their eligible dependants get free ambulance service. You seem very naive about the world if you think the city can fire you for THEM violating the contract and you should tell the collection agency to quit calling you as you owe the city nothing, that they should call the city Glad you child is doing fine
12/30/2012 07:45:00 PM
Thanks for that info. I did not know that.
I'm a citizen and read the blog so I know the true story about crime in the city. After seeing you officers treat each other so rudely on here for months (see above for most recent example), I have to finally ask, how you can expect citizens the average Joe to respect you when you treat each other with such disdain and disrespect? Very disheartening to see.
The fact of the matter is that the average Joe citizen doesn't respect us and we don't expect him to. We have actually come to accept the fact that nobody respects us anymore. We do our jobs and we go home. The citizens are just another turd in the giant pile of shit we wade through everyday. We'll get there when you call us (although it might take awhile since we're so short handed) but don't expect us to care about your problems when we do, because we don't. This current police department is what society wanted and it's what society deserves. The media, politicians, brass, judges, and citizens in general created this department slowly over the last few decades by chipping away at morale and treating the criminals better than the police. You made your bed, now lay in it.
This is the guy that has ran and screwed up OEMC now you want to give this idiot a chance at destroying CPD?
Anyone Cline booted out is very likely a very decent person and worthy of our respect. Look up in the blog all the poison shit that was written about bosses Cline promoted.
Cline booted Schenkel? A golden endorsement.
Cline booted out Abbate. He gets an golden endorsement too?
No matter had bad a boss is, they usually do something right in this case giving Stinkel the heave ho.
Great boss in 026-dont exist-try unit 124
Like stated beforehand OEMC treats patrol officers like garbage and you still cheerlead Stinkel?
Bootlicking butt kissing lackey
Wait till I start dropping motherfuckers around your 55 million dollar sign.
Chalkie
12/30/2012 08:43:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
My wife and I are both CPD. Our son suffers from seizures which most of the time we can handle. But our 6 year old son had an episode where he wasn't coming around. We called 911 and CFD responded IMMEDIATELY! Stabilized our son and took him to the Hospital where he was admitted for 3 days. Thank you from the bottoms of our hearts CFD!!! Our beef is that we assumed the city waived ambulance fees for FAMILY of CPD and CFD. Keep getting threatening notices from the city that we will be sued or loose our jobs! We both work in districts where numerous idiots are shot every fuckin day. Do they pay for services rendered by CFD? Sorry but blood starting to boil again!
12/30/2012 09:03 What you have to do is go to Human Resources with your ambulance bills and fill out a Waiver form . Call Human Resources for more info.
I have to finally ask, how you can expect citizens the average Joe to respect you when you treat each other with such disdain and disrespect? Very disheartening to see.
The response by 10:55 pm is uncalled for. If you won't respectfully help two fellow officers, why would I think you'd be any help to me if I ever need it?
Of course the way you treat each other also tells me there can't possibly be a "code of silence." You don't respect each other enough to cover for one another.
12/31/2012 12:58:00 AM
were you, by any chance, an only child?
....if we had LA weather in chicago, we would be pushing 1,000 murders easy
12/31/2012 12:34:00 AM
i agree.
them popsicle toes do tend to slow me down, a bit.
Chalkie
Anonymous poppa said...
Hey Rahm, Wish you could of seen Vietnam the way many of seen it. But then again you were only about 10 prancing around in you leotards.
12/30/2012 11:57:00 PM
I feel pretty
I feel pretty
I feel pretty
and witty
and gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.....
If you raise your voice barely above a whisper and smile, people lean in toward you and they hang on your every (barely-perceptible) word. It's an attention-concentrating device.
12/30/2012 11:34:00 PM
in my days, youngsters talked up.....
'm a citizen and read the blog so I know the true story about crime in the city. After seeing you officers treat each other so rudely on here for months (see above for most recent example), I have to finally ask, how you can expect citizens the average Joe to respect you when you treat each other with such disdain and disrespect? Very disheartening to see.
The response by 10:55 pm is uncalled for. If you won't respectfully help two fellow officers, why would I think you'd be any help to me if I ever need it?
Of course the way you treat each other also tells me there can't possibly be a "code of silence." You don't respect each other enough to cover for one another.
12/31/2012 12:58:00
I cant agree more with this citizen. What should be a forum for voicing opinions on what is occurring in the department is far too often a forum for talking down to fellow officers and retirees and treating them with disrespect.Seems dome people think they have all of the answers and those that dont agree with them are asshats
Anonymous said...
Sneethen for new Supt.can I get an amen?
12/30/2012 10:06:00 AM
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Amen !!!
Dave should get the job, after all, he's been the "2nd deputy" for a long, long time.
Again, NYPD has their version of CompStat too, but the difference in one word...MANPOWER.
All the best strategies in the world can't be successfully implemented without the boots on the ground.
New York and Chicago are the best examples.
'There ain't no plan without the man.'
Cue the crickets.
Anonymous said...
Dear Supt Mc499+1, Someone posted Homicide #501 in 005 today. Can we start naming the deceased after the Legendary Levi's 501button fly style?
Heres the LEVI'S Numbered styles --
# * 501 aka ... Button Fly
* 503 Skinny (women)
* 504 Slouch Straight (women)
* 505 Straight Leg
* 506 Standard Fit (men)
* 507 Boot Cut (Men)
* 508 Loose (Men)
* 509 Loose (Men)
* 511 Skinny (Men)
* 512 Boot Cut (Men)
* 512 Slim Fit (Men
* 514 Slim (Men)
* 514 Slouch Boot Cut (women)
* 515 Boot Cut (women)
* 516 Slim Fit (discontinued)
* 517 Boot Cut (men)
* 518 Superlow Boot Cut (women)
* 519 Flared (women)(discontinued)
* 519 Flared (women)(discontinued)
* 522 Stretch (men)
* 523 Straight Cut (men) (Thanks for the info Danny)
* 524 Classic Straight Cut (men)
* 525 Boot Cut (women)
12/30/2012 07:23:00 PM
Had to copy and paste it after I blew my mornng coffee out of my nose..... Thats some funny shit right there , pure genius.....
Ok so a police officer was driving while under the influence and somehow it is someone else's fault? How about if you don't want to lose your job then you act like a responsible adult? I am sure he is going to find another job with the same wages and benefits as this one right?
Why not tell him ?
I'm a citizen and read the blog so I know the true story about crime in the city. After seeing you officers treat each other so rudely on here for months (see above for most recent example), I have to finally ask, how you can expect citizens the average Joe to respect you when you treat each other with such disdain and disrespect? Very disheartening to see.
The response by 10:55 pm is uncalled for. If you won't respectfully help two fellow officers, why would I think you'd be any help to me if I ever need it?
Of course the way you treat each other also tells me there can't possibly be a "code of silence." You don't respect each other enough to cover for one another.
12/31/2012 12:58:00 AM
Oh, please! Toughen up a little bit there, Sally. 10:55 used no profanity or insults and gave them solid direction and good advice, so stop complaining.
Gary Schenkel USMC New SUPT
12/30/2012 01:37:00 AM
Amem to that. Could you see him in front of the reverends, (small r intended) and what he would say to them
The fact that the city does waive the ride by ambulance to hospital is true,as I rode,I think you must call benifits or union and ask the procedure!
"I'm a citizen and read the blog...After seeing you officers treat each other so rudely on here...how you can expect citizens the average Joe to respect you when you treat each other with such disdain and disrespect?...why would I think you'd be any help to me if I ever need it?"
12/31/2012 12:58:00 AM
You came here merely to confirm your existing prejudices and to snipe.
Yes, the McCarthy haters are in full swing, but nothing will happen. Homicides are up in this town, the highest wince 2008, but few recall when in the 70s and 80s we had well over 800 and some years over 900. Who was the superintendent then ? Who complained? Was anyone demoted or moved? Do you really think that anyone who is currently in a leadership position could do any better under the circumstances? Do you want Uncle Terry back or Fat Phil or Rodriguez or any of the other politcal hacks that Daley appointed? This town has the biggest gang problem in the country which drives the homicide rate. No one under these circumstances would do any better. Such whinning is exhausting.Dont forget, McCarthy is doing the same thing that the commish or NUPD is doing, the same strategy, the same philosophy. We have more cops per capita then the next top five cities. Blame the judges and prosecutors for some of this.Blame the merit promotion system. Why hang everything on the head of a professional cop and a damn good cop, McCarthy. And, no, I am not related and I do not know him.
BECAUSE MCGOOF HAS CAUSED CONSTANT KAOS IN THE DEPT SINCE HE TOOK OVER,HE IS A OUTSIDER WITH NO CLUE ON CRIME IN CHICAGO WHICH HE PROVED,ITS SAD JFED PUT HIM TO SHAME.
New Supe? how about Lovie Smith, he needs a job. Seems like a nice guy, nothing seems to bother him- the world is falling apart around him and he don't seem to mind. Can you see him running a comcrap meeting? Murders up? Robberies up? Theft Up? No, No we're fine, we're staying the course, we're one piece away from a crime free society... ya know he sounds like Mcdummy. Disregard
Anonymous said...
I'm a citizen and read the blog so I know the true story about crime in the city. After seeing you officers treat each other so rudely on here for months (see above for most recent example), I have to finally ask, how you can expect citizens the average Joe to respect you when you treat each other with such disdain and disrespect? Very disheartening to see.
The response by 10:55 pm is uncalled for. If you won't respectfully help two fellow officers, why would I think you'd be any help to me if I ever need it?
Of course the way you treat each other also tells me there can't possibly be a "code of silence." You don't respect each other enough to cover for one another.
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If people on this job have a specific problem, there are plenty of knowledgable people on this job to ask for help.
Posting here and hoping that 1 out of 100 replies is the one your looking for is a silly way to solve a problem.
how about a supe that...
1) knows Chicago
2) knows the CPD
3) willing and able to tell City Hall, and the politicians, to go to hell....
4) knows enough history about the current exempts, to dump about 75% of them, and that's for starters...
5) reorganize the CPD, streamline the units, recreate the citywide teams...
6) prior to assigning and promoting, have folks submit to a forensic personnel and background check (i.e., family and friends, personal relationships (marriage, divorce, parenting, etc.), financial background, investments, real estate interests, political connections, etc.)....
then......talk about transparency.....put it all out there for the public to see....
"...why would i think you'd be any help to me if i ever need it?"
12/31/2012 12:58:00 AM
Because you won't know shit else but 911 when something very large and ugly is smiling at you as it climbs through your window?
Some predators "toy" with their prey... Just so you know. Nevermind that smell. It's just you shitting on yourself in fear.
You see... It's like this. You've been taught that fighting back is wrong. You believe that everyone should be able to sit and work out their differences.
We, The Police on the other hand?
A precious too few of us are from another time. and place. We grew up native to this city. Toughness, common sense and street smarts were pounded into us at a very young age.
We grew up around men who made no bones about fighting, defending and protecting something.
And women who would kick the asses of the men who fell short.
You're under the influence of mincing, tip-toeing, smooth skinned, euro-weenies with tits who shy from conflict because it's "bad."
You sell the mean and insensitive, blue collar Coppers (who are all "mad" because it isn't 1960 anymore) awfully short don't you?
You should be on your bald and naked knees thanking whatever diety, spirit or wood-imp at whatever chapel, clearing in the woods or voodoo kitchen you devote yourself to, that The Policemen you're so convinced you can do without, managed to hang on this long in the face of concentrated adversity.
Such as it is, it will be YOUR ASS numbered among the ones devoured first...
I have to finally ask, how you can expect citizens the average Joe to respect you when you treat each other with such disdain and disrespect? Very disheartening to see.
The response by 10:55 pm is uncalled for. If you won't respectfully help two fellow officers, why would I think you'd be any help to me if I ever need it?
Of course the way you treat each other also tells me there can't possibly be a "code of silence." You don't respect each other enough to cover for one another.
12/31/2012 12:58:00 AM
were you, by any chance, an only child?
12/31/2012 08:09:00 AM
No... One of eight "raised right." Perhaps tha's the difference between you and I.
06:41 No 6 on your list is none of the CPD's business. They do not need to know my financial background, my investments, real estate investments and for sure none of my personal relationships, my family and friends. This should be investigated. I have nothing to hide but my business is my business and my friends should not be subjected to anything from the CPD My parenting skills should be judged by who? are they subjective
The public has no right to see anything about our public lives
You are an idiot
I'm a citizen and read the blog so I know the true story about crime in the city. After seeing you officers treat each other so rudely on here for months (see above for most recent example), I have to finally ask, how you can expect citizens the average Joe to respect you when you treat each other with such disdain and disrespect? Very disheartening to see.
The fact of the matter is that the average Joe citizen doesn't respect us and we don't expect him to. We have actually come to accept the fact that nobody respects us anymore. We do our jobs and we go home. The citizens are just another turd in the giant pile of shit we wade through everyday. We'll get there when you call us (although it might take awhile since we're so short handed) but don't expect us to care about your problems when we do, because we don't. This current police department is what society wanted and it's what society deserves. The media, politicians, brass, judges, and citizens in general created this department slowly over the last few decades by chipping away at morale and treating the criminals better than the police. You made your bed, now lay in it.
12/31/2012 06:24:00 AM
I made no bed. Have never voted Democrat in my life. I sincerely hope you do not reflect the the majority of CPD because with your attitude, you do not deserve to be counted among Chicago's Finest
"I'm a citizen and read the blog...After seeing you officers treat each other so rudely on here...how you can expect citizens the average Joe to respect you when you treat each other with such disdain and disrespect?...why would I think you'd be any help to me if I ever need it?"
12/31/2012 12:58:00 AM
You came here merely to confirm your existing prejudices and to snipe.
Yes, Off Conspiracy Theory. That's why I'm here. I think YOU are the one with prejudices. Glad you're not my bear cop. He's, as you say, the REAL police.
Thats a bs story that copper is saying about cfd making him DUI another copper. . That jaggoff copper just got a cr number on another police officer and is fucking hated by everyone in the district.
he is not hated by everyone in the district..he got a number on a cop who has arrested other policemen's children, got multiple cr#s on other coppers and bosses...and who is a piece of shit who shouldn't even be wearing the uniform ...in terms of the dui, it was cfd"s fault...maybe if you are ever in that position and are given a direct order to arrest one of us, let see what you are going to do monday quarterback...gfy!
I made no bed. Have never voted Democrat in my life. I sincerely hope you do not reflect the the majority of CPD because with your attitude, you do not deserve to be counted among Chicago's Finest
shut up you pompous ass. Don't you DARE to question ANY officer's attitude on this blog. You have NO IDEA and never will just enjoy the tiny boner you get when you log into our blog.
when did NYC elect Hugh Hefner as mayor?
Yes, Off Conspiracy Theory. That's why I'm here. I think YOU are the one with prejudices. Glad you're not my bear cop. He's, as you say, the REAL police.
1/01/2013 03:38:00 AM
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Bear cop? MEOW! fella, are you the the handwaiver in the old 2-3 with the fine fashion sense? If so, tell me what I was wearing that night so I'll know it's you. wink wink
Glad you're not my bear cop. He's, as you say, the REAL police.
1/01/2013 03:38:00 AM
your bear is a cop?
how precious.
Anonymous said...
Yes, the McCarthy haters are in full swing, but nothing will happen. Homicides are up in this town, the highest wince 2008, but few recall when in the 70s and 80s we had well over 800 and some years over 900. Who was the superintendent then ? Who complained? Was anyone demoted or moved? Do you really think that anyone who is currently in a leadership position could do any better under the circumstances? Do you want Uncle Terry back or Fat Phil or Rodriguez or any of the other politcal hacks that Daley appointed? This town has the biggest gang problem in the country which drives the homicide rate. No one under these circumstances would do any better. Such whinning is exhausting.Dont forget, McCarthy is doing the same thing that the commish or NUPD is doing, the same strategy, the same philosophy. We have more cops per capita then the next top five cities. Blame the judges and prosecutors for some of this.Blame the merit promotion system. Why hang everything on the head of a professional cop and a damn good cop, McCarthy. And, no, I am not related and I do not know him.
BECAUSE MCGOOF HAS CAUSED CONSTANT KAOS IN THE DEPT SINCE HE TOOK OVER,HE IS A OUTSIDER WITH NO CLUE ON CRIME IN CHICAGO WHICH HE PROVED,ITS SAD JFED PUT HIM TO SHAME.
12/31/2012 03:13:00 PM
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OK, who's next? WHo would you put in as boss? ANd don't say Lovie. HAHA
Anonymous said...
I think I got it.
Bloomberg is putting this material out --
"There were more homicides this year in Chicago than in New York, a city with three times the population. That means Chicagoans were proportionally 3.7 times more likely to be homicide victims than New Yorkers were in 2012."
...so that means we need to copy New York City's gun laws.
McCarthy just put it out on radio news, sound bite "Now, take New York. New York has strict gun laws."
There it is.
Bloomberg/Emanuel/McCarthy -- one gun-banning mind, one voice.
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Let's get on ehting straight about the Chgo/NYC thing -> NYC is about 1.5 times the size (granted 3x the population, 3x the police force - about)
but 39k cops are roaming around an area 1.5 times the size of Chicago.
That matters.
Also NYC has proprtionately WAY MORE DETECTIVES. 6k (about) of 39k are detectives.
about 7 to 1 ratio of cops to Dets.
In Chgo that ratio is about 10 to 1. About 10k cops and 900 Dets.
So NYC has far, far less geographical area to patrol, and way more Dets.
Hey McCalculator .... put those figures into the hopper and stare at 'em a bit.
(and granted again - a lot of NYC Dets. are in narcotics and such ... but still)
Gary Schenkel USMC New SUPT
Amem to that. Could you see him in front of the reverends, (small r intended)and what he would say to
He'd probably get on his knees, in front of he reverneds in prayer of course and tell them
less police more dispatchers
Hiring dispatchers and TMA's from their churches did him a world of good, and that police are gonna answer EVERY call dispatched no matter how stupid
then he'd sip from the chalice of holy kool aide and be forever in their debt, amen.
I'm a citizen and read the blog so I know the true story about crime in the city. After seeing you officers treat each other so rudely on here for months (see above for most recent example), I have to finally ask, how you can expect citizens the average Joe to respect you when you treat each other with such disdain and disrespect? Very disheartening to see.
The response by 10:55 pm is uncalled for. If you won't respectfully help two fellow officers, why would I think you'd be any help to me if I ever need it?
Of course the way you treat each other also tells me there can't possibly be a "code of silence." You don't respect each other enough to cover for one another.
12/31/2012 12:58:00 AM
He told him first where to go to solve his problem, and then told him to stop searching on a blog. Good advice both times. You are a softer-than-puppy-shit dweeb. Men and women who deal with the dark side of humanity post here. That takes a certain type of person which you are not. We might speak to each other bluntly, but we will always back each other in a way you will never understand as an outsider.
We don't have time for little sissies like you to come on here and give us lessons in etiquette. Now I know that I just got your panties in a bunch, but it was done for a reason. You were never in the military, as you would have grown accustomed to such communication and ball busting, and you are not a cop. So kindly shut the fuck up and be glad that these men and women will come to the aid of your sorry ass when the time comes. Because God knows that your pansy little ass won't confront an attacker when he spots your passive little pussy face.
Now have a nice day, Sally, and just for kicks, go get your shine box.
"Glad you're not my bear cop. He's, as you say, the REAL police."
1/01/2013 03:38:00 AM
What's a "bear cop?" You and your significant other rent costumes and do things, set up little situations?
Got a code word you use when it goes too far?
Don't forget the word. We'll find you days later stuffed under the bed wearing one high-heeled shoe.
Too many of these as it is.
"The public has no right to see anything about our public lives
You are an idiot."
1/01/2013 03:24:00 AM
the wonderful thing about living in America is....everyone has a right to express their opinions.....
now, one might say, folks have a great right to personal privacy...
others might say....if society allows someone to have the right to deprive another human being of their freedom (i.e., arrest), and/or, under certain circumstances, take their life (i.e., deadly force), then maybe, society should know a lot more about that someone than the average person....maybe that individual should be held to a much higher standard than anyone else......just sayin'
To: 12/30/2012 09:03:00 AM
Hope your kid is OK.
You now have the information to get the bill paid per FOP (or PB&PA) contract.
Part of the problem is coppers now don't have the gray-haired old timers to ask questions anymore. When I was working I must have answered that same question several times a year by people I was working with and we went to a computer, got the form and chatted for a few minutes, do you need help with anything else?
Stay Safe, I miss doing stuff like that.
"The public has no right to see anything about our public lives
You are an idiot."
1/01/2013 03:24:00 AM
the wonderful thing about living in America is....everyone has a right to express their opinions.....
now, one might say, folks have a great right to personal privacy...
others might say....if society allows someone to have the right to deprive another human being of their freedom (i.e., arrest), and/or, under certain circumstances, take their life (i.e., deadly force), then maybe, society should know a lot more about that someone than the average person....maybe that individual should be held to a much higher standard than anyone else......just sayin'
1/01/2013 05:27:00 PM
I think you mean, public has no right to see anything about our >>> private lives. <<<
What I do while working is one thing; it stops at my front door, my wife (or husband, significant other, life partner), child, church, phone, PC. I refuse to be treated as a second class citizen or with a double standard.
There is an actual CPD form that you use to apply for the ambulance fee waver. I have an extra somewhere. When I find it I will post the form number.
Cline also had him escorted out of the building after he fired him. That was a terrible insult to a man who served his country for many years. Say what you will about him, but he didn't deserve that kind of treatment.
"...I can't agree more with this citizen..."
Lighten up Francis, this is a blog. If you want meaningful conversation, join Oprah's book club.
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