Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Look at All That Marijuana Money!!!

  • Since the city of Chicago implemented its new marijuana ticketing law early last August, it has reportedly issued nearly 400 citations and netted nearly $98,000 worth of fines for low-level possession of the drug citywide.

    According to RedEye, 380 citations, which come with a fine ranging from $250 to $500, for marijuana possession up to 15 grams were issued between Aug. 4 and Dec. 25. August was the month during which the most tickets were issued.
Wow. 380 ANOV's (Administrative Notice Of Violation for you non-police readers). That's almost 3 tickets a day!
  • Of the 380 cases, administrative law judges found 138 of those accused were liable, meaning they violated the ordinance. Nearly all with the exception of two were slapped with a $250 fine.

    People failed to show up for 128 cases and all but three were hit with the maximum $500 fine.

    The city’s attorney decided not to proceed with 32 cases, and 55 others are pending.

    Hearing officers dismissed 27 cases, finding them not responsible for the violation.

All that for $98,000.  And for all you budget geeks keeping track:
  • Danny Solis in November 2011, Solis said the city would stand to gain as much as $7 million in additional annual revenue from marijuana citations capped at the possession of 10 grams. Though the marijuana ticketing law ultimately approved last summer actually increased the maximum amount of cannabis that one could be ticketed, rather than arrested for, from 10 to 15 grams, the city is still lagging far behind Solis' estimated revenue boost.

    Once the 2012 citation figures are extrapolated, the city is only on track to take in about 3 percent of Solis' $7 million figure in the law's first year.
Oops. Someone call Rahm's number crunchers - we think we just found another $6 million hole in his budget.  

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    128 Comments:

    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Can anyone please tell me the date we get paid for selling back personal and bfd days? Ty.

    1/16/2013 12:07:00 AM  
    Anonymous Answer Man said...

    Here is a GREAT revenue boost. It is really a cost-reduction.

    Cut down the amount of aldermen to 20. That will give 10x more savings than this failure. $60,000,000 and that is conservative.

    Figure $2 Million per Alderman per year (with all their assigned ward budgets and other annual costs that is probably a real conservative number).

    Cut 30 Aldermen out and you have some real money savings.

    Now get going.

    1/16/2013 12:13:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    How much money did we send running the administrative hearings at 400 W Superior?

    The hearing officer, corp counsel, clerks, sheriffs, building and utilities

    For every ticket, the prosecution cost is $1,000...

    1/16/2013 12:14:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    They are counting the fines imposed but they are not saying whether the money was actually collected or not. For example, the people who didn't show up for the hearing were given the maximum fine and this is included in their figures. However, if they didn't even show up for the hearing, why would we think for one second that they paid the fine? How about somebody ask the obvious question...tell us exactly how much money has been PAID to the city, because we really don't care about how much was imposed in fines unless that amount was actually collected.

    1/16/2013 12:14:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Rahm's only good at scamming for himself. He's screwing the city as bad as Daley did.

    1/16/2013 12:23:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    It's just like the drinking tickets or any other BS ANOV ticket. No one pays them cause there are no reprocussions. I wonder what the number of $$$$ brought in on all ANOV tickets is compared to the $$$$ paid out for the building to operate, the staff, lawyers, tickets books printed, etc. etc. etc. I would bet the city pays more to operate that system than what they take in.

    1/16/2013 12:27:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    poor RAHM...

    The city is looking for a quick buck.

    I remember in my youthful days of loving this job about a loud music ordinance.

    The officer would receive a court date for each impound thus receive a few hours overtime.

    the city would then grab up towing fees impound fees and a storage charge for the vehicle and that before the hearing. And if the driver didnt have insurance and a license the show was even better at the impound lot.

    But Daley got greedy and didn't want to share in the proceeds.


    Go head Gary MC ask some of your desk dollies about this if you have anyone working for you with over 12 years on!

    Boy do i miss those hearings!

    1/16/2013 12:30:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    after reading the order and doing the online course it was obvious that this whole idea was going to turn into a cluster fuck--- how many 1811 arrests were being made before this bullshit anov crap came out--- definitely a lot more than 380....

    1/16/2013 12:45:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    do they REALLY think these people will pay? now some might but face it,
    if they have 100 in their pocket the last place it's going is to Tiny the first place
    is Thomas &Springfield or places like it sounds like wishful thinking to me

    1/16/2013 12:47:00 AM  
    Blogger West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...

    The purely coincidental correlation of the "RedEye" conducting a study on something marijuana-related made me giggle.

    Visine, anybody?

    1/16/2013 12:52:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Remember when CPD used to pay for itself and render a healthy surplus to the municipal budget?

    Remember when "batting for the cycle" meant hitting every court at least once in a period and doing ok financially?

    Male Misd.
    Male Felony.
    Female Misd.
    Female Felony.
    Dope Court.
    Night Dope Court.
    Traffic Minor.
    Traffic Major.
    Muni Ord.
    Vehicle Impound.
    Hoe Court.
    Juvy Court.

    And a handful of others we've forgotten...

    The best ones were the two-fers and the occasional treys...

    Along with the attendant revenues the city benefitted from for having a fully staffed and "proactive" Police Department.

    We enjoyed the hunt and the chase.

    The city was raking in more money than they knew what to do with.

    What happened?

    Daley got greedy and cut Coppers out of the money.

    It took about ten years before somebody figured out Coppers were sitting on their "revenue generators" in response to having their pocket books hit.

    Let's see the numbers...

    Ohhh... Say from 1990 to 1999 and compare with 2000 to 2009?

    Oh yeah... Daley stripped control of the budget from the superintendent too...

    Forget about all that marijuana money, SCC...

    What happened to ALL the money in general?

    1/16/2013 01:08:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    So the city wants to treat the men on the streets as tax collectors. I wonder what is wrong with that?

    1/16/2013 01:15:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    They forgot to mention how much was spent in court fees, time spent issuing them(in man hours) and cost of purchasing all the equipment(test kits, ANOV's, paperwork, etc). Subtract that figure from the amount the city claims it made and the true amount is shown.

    1/16/2013 01:18:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Article states that lots of people didn't show up for the hearing so they got hit with max fine. If you crutch the numbers, it looks like only 36k paid for people who showed up. Who is to say that all the people with max fines paid? The way city sums it up, 100% no-shows paid max fines. I do not believe that for a second....

    1/16/2013 01:38:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Of course August had the most ANOV's written, P.O.'s wanted to do one for practice and realized it's time consuming and a waste of time without the arrest - for those interested in or needing the CB number.

    1/16/2013 01:41:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    The City would make much more money by legalizing the shit and licensing it and taxing it and selling it in personal use sized bags. No, better to keep up the charade of enforcement and keep it quasi illegal. After all it unjustly affects african-americans anyway and heaven forbid we jail a brown or black kid without matching it one for one with chinese or german or amish pot smokers.

    1/16/2013 02:42:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    who would bother to write these anyway? im surprised there was 400 of them

    1/16/2013 03:10:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    No problem Rahm will just install a few extra speed cameras to cover this revenue..... wait it's not about the revenue it's about the children right?

    1/16/2013 03:14:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...


    Oh man where to start.

    First.

    How about the $7 million dollar estimated financial windfall that ends up coming in at about $210,000 dollars (projected out at current rates) instead.

    How can anyone miss the mark that far, being off by 97% and still have their job?

    Second.

    If the financial numbers are that far off then ask yourself about the manpower and more cops on the streets propaganda! Remember how this was promoted as being able to "free up" the beat cops..etc..etc.

    THIS NEW MATH BE SO DAMN HARD.

    It all reminds me of another estimate that failed. ON-Line internet lottery sales.

    Another case were the people doing the estimates are off by 98%

    "In March Illinois became the first state in the country to sell lotto tickets online. By July, sales reached just $2.2 million. Northstar, the private firm that runs the lotto, had predicted sales between $78 million and $118 million."

    http://www.wbez.org/news/illinois-online-lotto-sales-fall-flat-101147

    Are these people doing these estimates: ignorant, incompetent, or just plain corrupt? Anyone of us turn in a report/study that's off by over 90% and lets see how long we have that job.

    And speaking of the lottery. How is this allowed to go on? If you're in the private sector you'd never get away with this sh$t...

    After Losing Contract, IL Lottery Chief Turns Against Contracting

    Let's see...you're running the lottery. You quit to start your own lottery company to bid on Illinois business. When you don't get the contract Illinois hires you back AND THEN you spend your time shopping yourself around to other states lotteries!?! Do I got that right?

    1/16/2013 03:20:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...


    I was cracking up today when I heard WGN radio presenting this story. Saying in effect that the money was pouring in, that we ALREADY racked in $98,000 dollars.

    No mention whatsoever about the $7 million dollars projected which would give their listeners an entirely different perspective.

    1/16/2013 03:24:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...


    City, County and State with million dollars holes in their budget and Rahm is hell bent to shut down booming businesses in Illinois that will cause people to lose their living wage jobs!

    Hundreds of jobs about to be lost and over $500 million dollars in business GONE!

    The Governor and Chicago Mayor and their jobs bull*** HA. propaganda.

    Case in point..

    A suburban gunmaker is overwhelmed with orders, for now

    Updated: January 13, 2013 7:28AM


    DS Arms was buzzing with activity.

    The phones rang and rang in the front office of the Northwest suburban gunmaker last week. Customers were calling to place orders — and they weren’t happy when they were told of two-month backlogs.

    Back in the factory, workers were busy manufacturing components for the military-style weapons the company sells across the country and around the world.

    “We are swamped,” said David Selvaggio, owner of the Lake Barrington-based company. “We have thousands and thousands of orders. We can’t even fill them. We don’t have the material.”

    ***

    Selvaggio said he’d probably have to lay off at least half of his 50 employees in the event of a ban. Hundreds of Illinois companies that supply his factory with everything from springs to plastic moldings would also suffer, he said.

    Illinois is a manufacturing hub for military-style semiautomatic rifles, with four other major companies making them here. They would take big hits, too, Selvaggio said.

    ***

    Selvaggio said a nationwide assault-weapon ban doesn’t make sense because the guns are used in a tiny fraction of violent crimes.

    Most murders in Chicago are committed with handguns. Only about 300 of the 7,400 firearms that officers took off the streets in 2012 were classified as assault weapons, according to police. Records show Chicago police recovered eight guns made by DS Arms between 2001 and 2011, but none in connection with a violent crime.

    Still, Mayor Rahm Emanuel and other local leaders say they support a state and national assault-weapon ban because people like the Connecticut killer can use them to cause massive casualties quickly.

    ***

    A ban would not only harm his business, but the state’s economy, Selvaggio said. He estimated that gunmakers have a $500 million annual impact on Illinois.

    Selvaggio said there’s an anti-gun political climate in Illinois — and other states know it.

    “Every year we get invited by other states to move to their state,” he said. “South Dakota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Idaho, Indiana, Oklahoma, Missouri — they’re calling us all the time. They’re saying, ‘move your jobs to our state. We are friendly to manufacturing jobs, even yours.’ ”

    One rifle manufacturer recently moved to Iowa, but Selvaggio said he’s not considering a move to another state. He’s not ready to expand, either.

    “It’s hard to make a business plan when you’re worried about every politician wanting to shut you down,” he said.

    Selvaggio said there’s a lot of hypocrisy in the debate over assault weapons.

    “I have sold a firearm to a very high-profile, anti-gun Democrat,” he said.

    Selvaggio’s politics are squarely on the side of the National Rifle Association and gun-rights advocates. He’s an ardent supporter of the 2nd Amendment. He believes in the role of an armed citizenry.

    “There’s a reason the Japanese didn’t invade us,” he said. “They were afraid they would find someone with a gun behind every blade of grass.”


    more at the above link.

    1/16/2013 03:46:00 AM  
    Anonymous GunBan Style said...

    OT--

    Running scared!

    David Axelrod has now crawled out from under his rock to spread discord. "The NRA has been hijacked by extremists who do not reflect the views of most of its more reasonable members."

    RIght. Over 100,000 new members in the last couple of weeks. Got Congress by the you-know-whats -- Obama is going to have to issue executive orders, because the American people are so heavily against him.

    GO NRA! COMPROMISE=DEATH. NO "ACCOMODATION." STAND FIRM. NO BACKWARD STEP!

    1/16/2013 03:50:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    "..People failed to show up for 128 cases and all but three were hit with the maximum $500 fine."

    ---------------------------------

    Just more of Rahm's smoke and mirrors ain't it?

    So now what?

    The 125 people that failed to show were hit with a $500 fine -- but has.. or will the money be collected from people that don't have it?

    Are contempt of court charges then filed and warrants issued? How much is that gonna cost us?

    1/16/2013 03:55:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Waste of time doing ordinances, no court time... But u better believe every rock i find gets 95'd

    1/16/2013 05:13:00 AM  
    Anonymous Wavy Gravy said...

    The fines collected were representative of what they would actually collect.

    1/16/2013 05:14:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Not to worry. The new plan is for the department of revenue people to start writing marijuana tickets. After all, aren't they "representative" of more police that were promised by the Flaming Tutu and McFraud?

    1/16/2013 05:34:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Anonymous said...Can anyone please tell me the date we get paid for selling back personal and bfd days? Ty. 1/16/2013 12:07:00 AM

    That generally hits your check 01
    March.

    1/16/2013 05:47:00 AM  
    Anonymous USMC said...

    where do they get 98000 even if you would have fined the entire crop of the whole 380 people that would only make it 95000. I think someone has to retake there 3rd grade math class again. GREAT ACCOUNTANT THE CITY MUST HAVE

    1/16/2013 05:59:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Wasn't this B.S. started because certain politicion's relatives were being locked up regularly for weed related charges? How many of those cases thrown out were clout involved? Just more Bullshit...

    1/16/2013 06:13:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Retiree Health Care Commission bottom line is increase in annual premiums of $6329.00 or $527.42 a month in 2014 for married with dependents.

    Those rates are subject to increase annually. Meanwhile the COLA is gone for new retirees and attempts to stop it for current retirees continue.


    See Page 26,

    end healthcare for Non-Medicare eligible retirees and force them into Obama health care exchanges. The "annual savings are obviously quite substantial" to the City.

    See Page 27

    Projected annual premium in 2014 for married annuitant with dependents under City Plan $9159.00. With health care exchange it jumps to $15,488.00

    1/16/2013 07:00:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I'm gonna take a wild guess that 128 of the no-shows fined $500 paid exactly NOTHING...jackass.

    1/16/2013 07:15:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    August was the biggest month because of Lallapolooza

    1/16/2013 07:27:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Considering the only ones that usually lock up someone for a few bags of weed is tac the numbers arent that surprising. If tac writes an anov they get no credit for a head. So they arent gonna bother.

    1/16/2013 07:37:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    After taking the online training I thought. The city wants us to test the cannabis without giving us the proper safety equipment (gloves and plastic eye safety glasses at the minimum)? When you are shaking that plastic bottle and if the acid gets out and hits your eye, you can go blind.

    1/16/2013 07:42:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    The only real math they know is when they count what's in the little unmarked envelope or the deposit that shows up in their secret account.

    1/16/2013 07:45:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Hey SCC, on Zone 10 right now, we have 12 cars down on school crossings. Is this an efficient use of manpower? How come Crossing Guards don't get perfect attendance ribbons like us?

    1/16/2013 07:47:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    How many arrests happened in the same time period?

    1/16/2013 07:52:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    poor chief quweef got locked back up for violating his probation--- his new neighbors in northbrook must be thrilled to death that he is temporarily gone--- northbrook is not ready for the savage show that goes on in shitcago on a daily basis....

    1/16/2013 08:27:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    The City would make much more money by legalizing the shit and licensing it and taxing it and selling it in personal use sized bags. No, better to keep up the charade of enforcement and keep it quasi illegal. After all it unjustly affects african-americans anyway and heaven forbid we jail a brown or black kid without matching it one for one with chinese or german or amish pot smokers.

    1/16/2013 02:42:00 AM
    Yes, that's how it works. It "unjustly affects" them because their culture has accepted it as normal and they feel they can engage in that activity anywhere they please. Nice try on putting it on us. It's all on them.

    1/16/2013 08:34:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I don't write this above because it's more work than just locking the person up. It's non sense and too time consuming.

    1/16/2013 08:35:00 AM  
    Anonymous Game of thrones fan said...

    A lot of cops say, make it legal, and who cares? But I for one won't write an anov, because of the politics. Cook county president, said its puts too many black and brown people in jail. You would think black and brown people would be embarrassed to hear that, that they are children that don't have any self control. My final thought is if you still smoke weed after 30, your soft as puppy shit.

    1/16/2013 08:38:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Financial penalties on folks that do not have money to begin with is not a deterrant.

    It's like needing a license to drive. Decent folk shudder with the potential of losing their license through negligence. The remainder say, " We need a license to drive? Ok, slap me with another ticket and fine I'm really scared now!" and continue to drive...

    1/16/2013 08:40:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    The City would make much more money by legalizing the shit and licensing it and taxing it and selling it in personal use sized bags. No, better to keep up the charade of enforcement and keep it quasi illegal. After all it unjustly affects african-americans anyway and heaven forbid we jail a brown or black kid without matching it one for one with chinese or german or amish pot smokers.
    /////////////////////////////////////
    Hey troll. The black and brown kids happen to be the only ones blatantly smoking it in public. The amish kids are smart enough to smoke it in their cabins. You, sir, are a tool!

    1/16/2013 08:59:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    And how much revenue would come from selling it through legal dispensaries and taxing the sales? Not to mention the reduction in crime costs from elimination of prosecution and reduced usage of other crime-linked drugs.

    1/16/2013 09:12:00 AM  
    Anonymous SurvivalAndProsperity.com said...

    "We think we just found another $6 million hole in his budget." Yeah, I have a feeling a good chunk of projected revenue in Rahm's 2013 budget might not materialize. "$45 million in additional revenue"- City Hall's forecast back in October of tax revenue on real property transfer, hotel, sales and electricity taxes until the end of September 2013. "$42 million in additional revenue growth"- Another forecast of revenue enhancements such as income from selling more taxi medallions and finding corporate sponsors for city programs.

    1/16/2013 09:14:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Off Topic. Lawsuit on bi-polar woman. For those of you who write numerous contact you maybe held accountable if something happens to that person later.

    1/16/2013 09:29:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Tax and regulate. That's where money is at. It frees up the courts and man hours. Also takes the profits out of the hands of the street gangs. Marijuana is safer than alcohol and cigarettes. Public opinion on this matter has changed, more than 50% of the population is in favor of legalization. It's time to stop the madness.

    1/16/2013 09:33:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    In assessing the economics of this, we need to remember that we're saving major money not arresting, processing, jailing, transporting, and all of that.

    Just the cost of not taking a cop off the street and sending him to court, maybe on overtime, to testify that Pookie had a joint on his person is a huge savings.

    I'll grant you it's not the money gusher predicted. That'll come when you legalize and tax.

    1/16/2013 09:40:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    OT- did you see Alvarez suspended two prosecutors for failing to charge the jagoff attempting to setting his family on fire (which he later did)? Atleast one of those better be a high ranking supervisor, because anyone that ever made a felony arrest knows that these ASAs can't wipe their asses without running it by their supervisor.

    1/16/2013 09:54:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Since Rham thinks privatizing is cost effective this is compounded. Storage and tow fees no longer go to the city. The people working for these private companies do not have to live in the city. Rham, while eliminating salaries, is also eliminating tax payers. The only people who must buy city stickers are city workers, water costs, city property owners, all others are high tailing it to the burbs while earning in the city and not being taxed to death. I can't remember when an ANOV resulted in a fine actually being paid. The corporation counsel, if he was ever in misdemeanor court, was there to nolle every single ANOV and most other ordinance violations. People who are cited for property violations like no building permits are the only ones made to pay up.

    1/16/2013 09:56:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    The media should ask again and I bet they find another 'bait and switch'...meaning, the city 'issued' $98,000 in fines, but how much was actually Paid?

    1/16/2013 09:59:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Can anyone tell me why they are writing the tickets when we are without a contract ?

    1/16/2013 10:05:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    How do you predict how many people will commit a crime? Just like they said the revenue is down from the red light cameras. "Well we are so smart that we know this percent of the population will commit this crime." Ask those same people why the murder count was so high.

    1/16/2013 10:09:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    what a waste of time, tie down a car for a stupid 3 to 4 hr citation, what dumb dick came up with this idea??

    1/16/2013 10:12:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Just the frickin contract to print the ANOV cost more than 90K. What a joke!!!!

    1/16/2013 10:19:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    It's just like the drinking tickets or any other BS ANOV ticket. No one pays them cause there are no reprocussions.
    ==============
    just as likely that the people on the receiving end have no money to pay them.

    you really want to piss away even more money trying to collect by locking them up?

    1/16/2013 10:51:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    (OT) headline on Drudgereport.com "Man shot outside of godfathers gym during morning commute" with a pic of rahm and Barry Obama hugging! Now downtown rahm,and rahm you are cutting police,not paying into pension,and want to take our health care? At least when President George Bush was in Crawford Texas his home town took care of the police,hmm why not here rahm? And rahm you want to be president and cannot even bring the needed funds to the killing fields of Chicago? Reality what a concept! But then again rahm you want to take away guns from people who actually follow the law, and you and Quinn at getting a casino up and runnin and using money for the schools,hint rahm the way things are going all. Money needs to be diverted to police and fund he pensions don't take away give!

    1/16/2013 11:23:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Anonymous said...
    Can anyone please tell me the date we get paid for selling back personal and bfd days? Ty.

    1/16/2013 12:07:00 AM
    By April 15th

    1/16/2013 11:25:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Factor in the time a P.O. Spends on the arrest, the lab cost, the salary of the clerks the corporate console, administrative fee's and processing costs. I wonder how much this is costing us.

    1/16/2013 11:41:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Hearing officers dismissed 27 cases, finding them not responsible for the violation.


    Who are they related to?? Daley, Vanecko, etc. If the kangaroo court dismisses something is amiss!!

    1/16/2013 11:45:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Rahm! Grab your winter TUTU. You will be the only one enforcing these Gun mandates from Adolph Obama

    1/16/2013 12:04:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    No, better to keep up the charade of enforcement and keep it quasi illegal. After all it unjustly affects african-americans anyway and heaven forbid we jail a brown or black kid without matching it one for one with chinese or german or amish pot smokers.

    1/16/2013 02:42:00 AM


    get real.

    the 'charade' of enforcement?

    sheeeeet.

    were there truly an enforcement 'charade', there would be no inflated market profit, (tax free, by the way), to stimulate the constant, and deadly, competition for distribution territory.

    being busted for mere possession is the least unpleasant possible consequence faced by those 'brown and black kids', whether they are engaged in the business of selling or buying, or merely happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    the most harmful effect of all substance control laws is not, nor ever has been, to the individual consumers, regardless of their skin color, ethnic progeny or economic heritage.

    it's worst effect is to our liberty, as all controlled substance laws enable and finance, directly or indirectly, the steady increase in the general acceptance of the rule of the few over the many.

    1/16/2013 12:12:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    How much was actually COLLECTED? Fines on the books are one thing--money in the bank is another.

    1/16/2013 12:13:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    ANOV???..... What's an ANOV?

    1/16/2013 12:31:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    The Anov was suppose to be easier and quicker. All I know is that after you write the anov then you have to go into the station test the weed, do an inventory or too and hope everything is done correctly or you get called back in. I think it was quicker and I got a head for doing the arrest.

    1/16/2013 12:49:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Well it's a good thing we have all that extra NATO money to make up for the shortfall.

    1/16/2013 12:51:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    OT: During Obama's speech today he also stated "And at a time when budget cuts are forcing many communities to reduce their police force, we should put more cops back on the job and back on the streets." But when you read any of the Chicago media outlets online, which they edited, no mention of those words. Interesting.

    1/16/2013 01:26:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    OT --

    I swear someone's running a
    "neighborhood generator" in this town.

    I know that demographers invent nasty little names for the groups they study. Looks like mappers are doing the same.

    On this routine story about a routine shooting --

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-man-dies-after-drug-deal-goes-bad-20130115,0,7376525.story

    ...the accompanying map contains...

    "Lawndale, North Lawndale, Homan Square, Garfield Park, Douglas Park."

    ...and now "Heart Of Chicago," "Tri-Taylor," and "Fifth City!"

    FIFTH CITY?

    Is there a "Quart City" for the affluent, and a "Half-Pint Village" for the more "challenged?"

    ...all accessible via the Mauve, Fuchsia and Terra Cotta Lines.

    What was the one not long ago? "Lower West Side?"

    Just the cross streets. "Central/Madison, Madison/Central, man in dark clothing, caller say the man say he have a gun."

    1/16/2013 01:40:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    O.T. Sergeant's Test In 2014?

    Rumors are flying around that the city won't offer the sergeant's test this year. The city will offer a test for police officers in fall of 2013. So they won't have time to give the sergeant's test.

    I hope some of you Bernstein and CPD Test Prep students get your money back.

    1/16/2013 01:41:00 PM  
    Blogger anonymous said...

    Everyone smokes pot in this city. Get off the Brown Line at the Library, homies chilling in the park smoking blunts skunking up the block. Walk around Michigan ave, the skunk. Walk around the North Side, the skunk. Its everywhere. These numbers are comical.

    1/16/2013 02:08:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    OT. Federal Judge who had a death threat made against her by one of the MCC escapee's. Will have to pay taxes for the cost of the security detail. Legit threats cost the victim. Fake or made up threat over a twenty year period cost the tax payers only!

    1/16/2013 02:09:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I'm not retiring until we get 80% and all the blunt you can smoke.

    1/16/2013 02:35:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Anonymous said...

    Hey SCC, on Zone 10 right now, we have 12 cars down on school crossings. Is this an efficient use of manpower? How come Crossing Guards don't get perfect attendance ribbons like us?

    1/16/2013 07:47:00 AM

    That's ok my friend. It's for the children.

    1/16/2013 02:48:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    RAHM & MCGOOFYS RESPONSE DURING AN UPCOMING INTERVIEW........
    Wait.... You forget this strategy wasn't implemented to make revenue. This program was put into place to free up aggressive officers from being down on arrests in the station for hours on a weed arrest. It's all about putting a thousand more officers out on the street, where they are needed.......
    .

    1/16/2013 03:02:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Cant the Chicago Police still impound a vehicle if a person has a "small amount of weed" on them? Doesn't it cost a person around $2160.00 to get back their vehicle? I take it those funds are not counted?

    (Obviously not a cop, just a reader)

    1/16/2013 03:08:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Marijuana fines should be shipped to the Pension Funds. This would help 'blunt' any pension shortfalls.

    1/16/2013 03:18:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...


    Blogger anonymous said...

    Everyone smokes pot in this city. Get off the Brown Line at the Library, homies chilling in the park smoking blunts skunking up the block. Walk around Michigan ave, the skunk. Walk around the North Side, the skunk. Its everywhere. These numbers are comical.

    1/16/2013 02:08:00 PM
    _____________

    Sometimes, it really is a skunk.

    1/16/2013 03:19:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    "Financial penalties on folks that do not have money to begin with is [sic] not a deterrant [sic]."

    1/16/2013 08:40:00 AM


    No money to buy drugs.

    I got it.

    1/16/2013 03:33:00 PM  
    Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

    "...everyone smokes pot in this city...."

    If only this were true.

    Now, kees me you fool!!!!

    1/16/2013 03:44:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Here's a suggestion. Maybe, just maybe we could start having the families of the criminals pay for the idiot's incarceration? Since we can't get them to raise proper citizens and we can't neuter them, they should be held accountable for the monies to safely house them from the public.

    They can then sell off all of those improperly gained proceeds.

    We could label it "for the children"

    1/16/2013 04:15:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    This is just another case of the media not understanding what Solis maent by $7 million savings per year. What he meant was $7 million per century.

    1/16/2013 04:33:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Woe woe, did you hear that there is a pup of a assistant director of human resources named Rose Sprinkle? She was a Obama intern when he was a US senator. When he became president and his former chief of staff Rahm became Mayor of Chicago, miss clout trout went from workin at CPS to a six figure salary at CPD HR. No HR degree, police culture history. Just a few bar pictured on Face Book. Oh, oh and boyfriend now works gor Rahm too. If this ain't political patronage, I don't guckin know what is. Chalk another for the FBI investigators...;)

    1/16/2013 05:04:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    "Chicago has beat out Cincinnati for a dubious, itchy distinction – top U.S. city for bedbugs.

    That’s according to a new list released by the pest control company Orkin, which looked at bedbug service calls made across the country in 2012 to rank the top 50 cities.

    And while the Windy City jumped from the number two spot in 2011 to number one in 2012, Orkin says the bedbug-killing business is up nearly 33 percent nationally for their parent company, Rollins. In all, Rollins runs eight U.S. pest control companies, including Orkin."

    FULL STORY:

    http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/news/2013/01/16/americas-top-bed-bug-cities-named/?cid=hero_media

    1/16/2013 05:07:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    a good question that was asked...how much money was fined, and how much money was actually collected?.....anyone know?

    1/16/2013 05:20:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    ...Can anyone please tell me the date we get paid for selling back personal and bfd days? Ty. 1/16/2013 12:07:00 AM

    On the FOP website under holiday calendar it's listed as paid out 01 Apr this year.

    1/16/2013 05:26:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Fuck the potheads and the parking meters and this merry-go-round shit.

    *There's a hostage crisis in a gas field in Algeria.

    * Massive backlash against Obama. Mississippi now joining Missouri and Wyoming in stating will not enforce federal laws. Sheriff of Linn County, Oregon on TV saying the same, will not enforce unconstitutional laws.

    "Gun safety initiative" causes ammo shortage even for police...

    1/16/2013 05:41:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    an additional question for the Supt:.....Dear Supt: you have read and studied, one can be sure, the laws of the land, including the local statutes, state laws, and the US Constitution......including the 2nd Amendment (the right to keep and bear arms)....and you, among all law enforcement officers, take an oath of uphold and enforce the Constitution.....and, as an aside, you surely are are aware of recent US Supreme Court decisions regarding gun possessions......so....where do you stand, MR. Supt.?....are you, as an American citizen, do you stand for the Constitution and the rule of law?....or.....

    1/16/2013 05:47:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    A grown man can stand on his own two feet, on the demonstrable correctness of his logic in everyday life.

    Anyone who needs to trot out and exploit four "children who wrote letters against gun violence" to back him up is a feeble, pathetic suckass.

    That means you, Mr. President.

    1/16/2013 06:04:00 PM  
    Anonymous A new Black eye for CPD said...

    three schaumburg coppers and two 17th district tact officers were picked up by the feds today. I saw the news on the tribune but it only states three schaumburg coppers taken in and has nothing about the chicago cops... however, the info about the two chicago cops is 100 percent considering I observed them walking out the back door after a meeting in the watch commanders office and they were in handcuffs. yeah, not good boys and girls. I wont give the officers names until it is released later but was it really worth it??? did you not learn from the past... and oh yeah, one of the guys previously worked where you ask?????? SOS. yep, I guess he didnt learn a damn thing after that whole scandle. and this is nothing related to sos, according to the wc it is related to the schaumburg thing. stupid stupid stupid.

    1/16/2013 06:22:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    "It "unjustly affects" them because their culture has accepted it as normal and they feel they can engage in that activity anywhere they please. Nice try on putting it on us. It's all on them."

    1/16/2013 08:34:00 AM

    Like Preckwinkle. Motherf__ers bang bang bang, snatch and smash and grab and push and scream and run all day and all night, INCLUDING HER OWN SON WHO BEATS UP HOMELESS PEOPLE, and she does a big fat How Can This Be. "The jail seems to be just full of them."

    "Multicultural" = "Lowest Common Denominator."

    1/16/2013 06:25:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    days sell back is paid April 1. Hours sell back for supervisors is paid March 1.

    1/16/2013 06:37:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Makes absolutely no sense to write an ANOV when I can just as easily lock you up and get some court time for myself.

    1/16/2013 06:39:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Obama is "going to put 1000 police in the schools!"

    Rahm can lie like that about Chicago, but Obama is talking about THE ENTIRE USA!

    huh

    1/16/2013 06:42:00 PM  
    Anonymous $55,000,000.00 said...

    C'mon, guys! The city is broke. Start writing those ANOVs for reefer. We desperately need FIFTY-FIVE MILLION DOLLARS ($55,000,000.00) for Maggie's park. If you don't get the revenue coming in from the citizen chumps, we might not get this magnificent FIFTY-FIVE MILLION DOLLAR ($55,000,000.00) park in memory of our beloved Mrs. Richard M. Daley.

    1/16/2013 06:52:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    allegedly two coppers taken out of 017 in handcuffs by the feds with something to do with the northern suburbs. stay tuned and buckle up again....

    1/16/2013 06:56:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Mcgruff going away soon to "help" feds in ATF.

    1/16/2013 07:19:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    why do we need so many aldermen they do whatever the mayor says.

    1/16/2013 07:23:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    SCC loves change.

    I love the way things are.

    McCarthy has been great. I made more money last year than I ever have on this job. With all the available OT, this job has never been better. I couldn't care less if this city never hired another PO. Five hundred murders? I'll only get concerned if it gets below 350.

    This job has never been better, bitches!

    1/16/2013 07:28:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Can anyone please tell me the date we get paid for selling back personal and bfd days? Ty.

    Sometime in March.

    1/16/2013 08:08:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    .T. Sergeant's Test In 2014?

    Rumors are flying around that the city won't offer the sergeant's test this year. The city will offer a test for police officers in fall of 2013. So they won't have time to give the sergeant's test.

    I hope some of you Bernstein and CPD Test Prep students get your money back-------------------------------------------------------------

    so what , it will happen eventually so i pre paid...

    1/16/2013 08:13:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    (Ot) what is going on with the cowboys at midway airport? Writing coppers and everyone that parks In the very expensive garage bullshit parking tickets! Thought midway was short personnel! A revenue agent could do the same job s lot less! My cousins car was broken into in the garage guess they were to busy writing bullshittickets! The girl that wrote mine I looked at her old car had a broken windshield, expired plates but she does this! Who is the other guy with he had toupee copper also writing 50+ Parker's a day? Are they in completion? Spoiled, lazy! Sorry just venting rant/off!

    1/16/2013 08:29:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I agree-court OT is the easiest OT ever

    1. its all time and a half
    2. most of it is thrown out,bargained out or dismissed, which doesnt bother me. i did my part.
    3. they pay me in ISP to travel there and back-in their car, their gas

    Best part time job I ever had!!!!

    1/16/2013 09:23:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    allegedly two coppers taken out of 017 in handcuffs by the feds with something to do with the northern suburbs. stay tuned and buckle up again....

    1/16/2013 06:56:00 PM


    This is correct however only charges against three suburban cops have been made public by the media... Nothing yet in the media about the Chicago guys but it did happen

    1/16/2013 09:44:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    OT- Mr Mccarthys police resume. 1981-84 patrolman 85-89 sgt, 89-92 lt, 92-97 capt. 97-00 inspector, 00 final rank in NYPD. Our leader has 4 years on the street. (That's if his daddy didn't take care of him when he was a patrolman)

    1/16/2013 09:46:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Sell back days come 15Mar13

    1/16/2013 09:59:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    SCC, you gotta love this. Only 89 fkn comments regarding your post about our pension (No Pension For You) but there already 102 comments about useless fkn ANOV weed citations at this time. And we wonder why we're so fkd!

    1/16/2013 09:59:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Anonymous said...
    (Ot) what is going on with the cowboys at midway airport? Writing coppers and everyone that parks In the very expensive garage bullshit parking tickets! Thought midway was short personnel! A revenue agent could do the same job s lot less! My cousins car was broken into in the garage guess they were to busy writing bullshittickets! The girl that wrote mine I looked at her old car had a broken windshield, expired plates but she does this! Who is the other guy with he had toupee copper also writing 50+ Parker's a day? Are they in completion? Spoiled, lazy! Sorry just venting rant/off!

    1/16/2013 08:29:00 PM
    I feel your pain,I was waiting for my wife in my car by the orange line,no car there at midnight, female copper from midway told me to move, I told her I was in kiss and ride waiting for my wife she slaps ticket on windshield and pulls away! I fought it and won,still cost me time for nothing!

    1/16/2013 10:08:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Why in the hell is Rahm on tonights episode of Chicago fire?? He doesn't give a shit about cfd or cpd

    1/16/2013 10:09:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Anonymous said...
    allegedly two coppers taken out of 017 in handcuffs by the feds with something to do with the northern suburbs. stay tuned and buckle up again....

    1/16/2013 06:56:00 PM
    Something with his maybe? Stupid is as stupid does!

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/suburbs/schaumburg/chi-schaumburg-officers-arrested-20130116,0,2751112.story

    1/16/2013 10:11:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    person shot to death tonight at a high school basketball game at chicago state university. I think Simeon and Morgan Park were playing tonight. Mass Chaos erupted after the shooting with several ten ones called inside and outside of the arena. Person killed was at the game and the situation is still ongoing. This will be a very big deal in the news.

    1/16/2013 10:16:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Two officers from 017 arrested by the feds. A source tells me they were stealing drugs and money from shit heads. What the fuck? If it's true then they get whatever is coming to them.

    1/16/2013 10:39:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Anonymous said...
    A grown man can stand on his own two feet, on the demonstrable correctness of his logic in everyday life.

    Anyone who needs to trot out and exploit four "children who wrote letters against gun violence" to back him up is a feeble, pathetic suckass.

    That means you, Mr. President.

    1/16/2013 06:04:00 PM

    I must agree. I just reminded me of Saddam Hussein with that British kid. Only democrats do this. It's a disgusting trend that they need to do away with. You don't need children as props for your anti Constitutional politics, you fucking scum bags.

    1/16/2013 10:57:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    It may not be actual incoming cash.

    It might just be savings in the costs of incarceration (and related lawsuits), paperwork & processing, overtime and court time.

    It's still won't amount to the numbers they told us of.

    1/16/2013 11:09:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    And who's to say of those found guilty even paid there fines at the time of the hearing... or better yet wont ever pay at all... Are they offering SWAP like they do in traffic court? Because if they do then the city gets a big goose egg.

    1/16/2013 11:26:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    "How come Crossing Guards don't get perfect attendance ribbons like us?"


    That's WHY they don't worry about perfect attendance - no ribbon!

    LOL!

    1/16/2013 11:28:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    "After all it unjustly affects african-americans anyway and heaven forbid we jail a brown or black kid without matching it one for one with chinese or german or amish pot smokers."

    Don't forget the Pilgrims! Why aren't we locking up more Pilgrim Potheads??

    Why do you think they call it "dope"?

    1/16/2013 11:33:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    On a lighter note, the false swat officer tactical Barbie Bartuch couldn't work iron sights on an AR, she's used to optics. I guess back to your fake training and your piss poor weapon handling/manipulation. YOU ARE A FARCE WOMAN!

    1/16/2013 11:34:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    So let's just say they gathered 98,000. How much did it cost to get the 98,000 and now they can hire one more Police Sgt. The city has become the joke of the county. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Why even bother!

    1/16/2013 11:41:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Indigent Tax !

    If you are poor, it'll cost you.

    Rham

    1/17/2013 09:33:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    SCC, you gotta love this. Only 89 fkn comments regarding your post about our pension (No Pension For You) but there already 102 comments about useless fkn ANOV weed citations at this time. And we wonder why we're so fkd!
    =============
    perhaps because most coppers realize that even if the pension plan is not currently fully funded the city is on the hook to pay out the full benefits promised. the state constitution guarantees that. it is not a loose guarantee either.

    I could see the state supreme court telling governmental entities that pension liabilities have to be funded before anything else.

    not a cop.

    1/17/2013 10:00:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Convoluted method of the weed anov aside, why write them when I need 3 CBs for VRI? ANOVs don't count.

    1/17/2013 01:02:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    You guys better get on the ball. Compstat Charlie, aka McDoofus announced today that he wants more ANOV's written, and written NOW! He also ordered Howard of training academy fame, to get a 2 minute training video done ASAP re writing ANOV's!

    McCompost also said he is changing the city code re: ANOV's, and dammit, commanders and front line supervisors better tell the troops to start writing them and never let up!

    How dare the beat officers not be writing ANOV's and writing contact cards!!!!! It's UNACCEPTABLE!

    Not only that, Comppost Charlie wants those ANOV's and contact cards written on YOUR BEAT, nobody else's!!!!!!

    Now get moving! Doesn't that motivate you to do more? And go to those CAPS meetings for free while you're at it!!!!!!

    What a tool!

    1/17/2013 01:42:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    crossing guards do get perfect attendance ribbon. but they don't get paid when they call in sick. if they had sick days like pos they would call in sick more often.

    1/17/2013 03:38:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Whew! Thank God this didn't happen in the 006th district! Per the 3rd watch W/C we aren't supposed to be calling 10-1's, but just "call for a couple more cars." Oh, and make sure you have your beat tag!

    1/17/2013 08:34:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    to 01/17/13 1000... (NOT A COP)

    Evidently you don't know anything about our pension system, or you're a trolling politician trying to give false information.
    While you are correct in stating that our pension is "currently" protected by the State Constitution, what do you think this legislature is trying to do? There are several bills pending downstate trying to change EXACTLY what you think we are "guaranteed"! If you think it can't happen, look at New Jersey. They already successfully amended their state constitution to do exactly what Illinois is attempting to do.
    Second, have you ever heard of bankruptcy? If the state continues to underfund the pension funds on the premise of not enough revenues coming in, don't think for one second that this state would look into being the first state in the nation to try and declare bankruptcy in federal court. Take a look at who's sitting in the oval office right now. Illinois' prize gift to the White House!
    So please, before you come trolling on our blog, try and research the topic a little before you give your supposed financial advice. And if by some chance you do have the financial wisdom you claim to have, try giving it to the politicians destroying our pensions!

    1/17/2013 09:16:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Evidently you don't know anything about our pension system, or you're a trolling politician trying to give false information.
    While you are correct in stating that our pension is "currently" protected by the State Constitution, what do you think this legislature is trying to do? There are several bills pending downstate trying to change EXACTLY what you think we are "guaranteed"! If you think it can't happen, look at New Jersey. They already successfully amended their state constitution to do exactly what Illinois is attempting to do.
    Second, have you ever heard of bankruptcy? If the state continues to underfund the pension funds on the premise of not enough revenues coming in, don't think for one second that this state would look into being the first state in the nation to try and declare bankruptcy in federal court. Take a look at who's sitting in the oval office right now. Illinois' prize gift to the White House!
    So please, before you come trolling on our blog, try and research the topic a little before you give your supposed financial advice. And if by some chance you do have the financial wisdom you claim to have, try giving it to the politicians destroying our pensions!
    ======================
    You protest way too much over something you obviously do not get. Even if the state is able to go into bankruptcy which is a very dubious proposition, the state constitution would not go away. While the bankruptcy court might well say the obligation goes away from the feds side of things, it is very doubtful that the state courts would see it that way. It is kind of like state guarantees of rights can be stronger than what federal guarantees are.

    Amending the state constitution is a very difficult thing to do. Personally, I would be in favor of several amendments, including doing away with the current pension guarantees. But it just ain't going to happen.

    In any case, you are only guaranteed what you currently have. Future employees may well have to accept something different.

    Same not a cop.

    1/18/2013 08:53:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    "Hmmm, seems like dats a reduction in da' reduction dere Kingfish."

    Algonquin J. Calhoun Esq.

    1/18/2013 03:56:00 PM  
    Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

    If you park in the Midway garage and pay for it, how do you get a ticket?

    1/25/2013 09:27:00 AM  

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