A Hole in the Logic
McJerseyShore made a comment, has made this comment many times in fact, in the press, before the City Council, anywhere he is allowed to speak:
- "more cops on the street will not reduce crime...."
Really? Because we just got back from VRI (Violence Reduction Initiative) and the word there is that we are hiring back 200 cops....per day....and paying out nearly $800,000 per week in overtime to man the violence zones and hot spots.
And now that Detectives are allowed to work the "supplemental" days (at the higher pay rate) that have brought the VRI to a full seven-days-a-week extravaganza, the total bill to taxpayers is hovering around a full million dollars per week.
This would appear to give lie to the budgetary woes Rahm is always crying about and the stories of untapped billions in TIF money are looking less and less like rumors.
Something the contract negotiators for all the city unions ought to be taking note of.
UPDATE: 200 cops a day.....hmmmmmm. That would be about the size of TRU. Or MSF. Or even SOS.
And now that Detectives are allowed to work the "supplemental" days (at the higher pay rate) that have brought the VRI to a full seven-days-a-week extravaganza, the total bill to taxpayers is hovering around a full million dollars per week.
This would appear to give lie to the budgetary woes Rahm is always crying about and the stories of untapped billions in TIF money are looking less and less like rumors.
Something the contract negotiators for all the city unions ought to be taking note of.
UPDATE: 200 cops a day.....hmmmmmm. That would be about the size of TRU. Or MSF. Or even SOS.
UPDATE: Commentators say the number has doubled to 400, which would make the weekly cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $1.6-to $1.8 million per week. Keep it coming Rahm.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:06 AM
99 Comments:
its now 400 P.O's and 40 Sgt's per day, up from 200 and 20! 7 days a week, no activity needed to get in.
What about the crime lab?
So if they have an extra 200 bodies why am I denied time due?!
Shhhhh. No VRI talk. To much money to be made. If mush public get a hold of info could sink us. $$$$$$ for po's more important than being right.
We can't strike, but we can refuse to work VRI. Just say no for a week. Make them squirm. Don't whore yourselves out for a few dollars. There's a bigger picture here.
$1 million a week in VRI overtime for a year would also pay for a certain park at what used to be known as the Daley Bicentennial Plaza at the north end of Grant Park. Go figure.
Run the numbers it is much more than 200 a day, its over 200 just for the regular 1800 start, if you factor in the day shifts and the 1600 start its more like 400 and then you need to add the new supplemental......and again this is paid out of CORPORATE funds not a grant...............money is found for what they want to find it for.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
A relative has just become a law enforcement officer. She has been on the job for little
Over a month. I have noticed a change in her. I write here because your readers would know.
How long does the it take for someone to go from a civilian to an officer?
2/22/2013 08:09:00 AM
What are we robots? We work and we go home. The problem is we all become super bullshit detectors and begin to believe everyone is lying to us (Because they do to Police Officers).
The system beats us down, courts are a joke, laws are never enforced (unless against its against a Police Officer or the average citizen with a little money to pay a fine) and we realize that alot of bad people walk among us so we become aware.
Becoming a cop makes you see the ugliness of society out there, but we still are "civilians". If the new Police Officer seems different, its because all that liberal bullshit forced down the unexposed civilians throat, is seen for what it is. Twisted lies and political cover-ups.
Hopefully the PPO isnt additionally stressed by the job being placed in a District with horrible and/or non-existent leadership. Maybe she will get a good FTO. She should move towards the working Police. Listen to everyone and take what you can from them. Ask questions. Learn how to do the job right. Find a good partner. Stay dry, warm and eat well.
Life isnt all warm and fuzzy as the sheltered are made to believe. Hopefully the new Police Officer can adapt and learn to leave the job at work. But the person will never be the same. Police Officers all realize soon enough that we know the answer to everything... :)
PS Let her sit facing the door when you go out to eat.
Keep those blinders on boys and girls
you don't need to take police action if you dont see anything
What's the difference between supplemental VRI and regular VRI?
plus he has lots of extra money for car rentals for the dectectives instead of just buying cars that the department would own.
That is incorrect....it WAS 200 cops per day. As of this week it is 400 per day. Not a typo....four hundred. the dynamic duo (McJerstyShore and the Rahmunist) are both shitting themselves cuz they know warm weather is just around the corner. But don't fool yourself the city is still making out because it is cheaper to pay us OT than to hire more and pay the benefits. And yes, that number is almost EXACTLY what we had w/ TRU and MSF.
Dics are allowed to work VRI at a higher rate of pay than POs. Hmmmm, doesnt sound too fair when they will be doing the exact same work side by side, does it?
VRI has now been upped to 420 cops, 42 Sgt, and 5 Lt per day 7 days a week.
pay me.
McSnooky is an idiot. 'Nuff said.
....and of course the Dics and Mayoral bodygaurds can't really make arrests while on the VRI. Just ask them.
Think about what you could do with all that money we are pissing away at time and a half! We could hire more coppers and help fund the pension. We could put coppers back in neighborhoods that pay taxes and don't have any Officers assigned there. Imagine that!
Of course I am not aware of the Mayor's Master Plan.
Wait til the Wildings start downtown come mid-May.
These puds have already been put on notice by the revrun cartel that they expect zero resources diverted from the ghetto to downtown and white areas.
It's more like 400 a day hired back.
Can lieutenants work it? A certain female lieut. in 024 on midnights is crying about how lieutenants should have first crack at ANY O.T. details and how the cmdr. screwed her and she should NOT be on the 1st watch.
How big is the next sgt class?
They're far too short, so they are sraping the barrel for more officers on the street. As long as cops keep jumping for this, they'll "NOT" hire any more to replace the ones they lose. So keep letting your greed run the dept.
It's a lot of money, but not my money. Besides it's still cheaper than actually hiring new bodies. New people are more than just salaries. They are pension contributions, healthcare, vacations, etc.
If enough animals wipe out most of the other animals, I can always cut back or eliminate this program completely. Something I can't do with actual employees.
So who is the real dummy here? Me or the rent-a-cops who keep working these programs that allow me to keep understaffing your, I mean our, Department?
Actually Its 480 Officers a day working overtime everyday as a part of VRI, that equals almost TRU and MSF, laughing all the way to the bank
OutSider Loud Moths from Jersey Wont reduce crime ither
Your numbers are off by about 2X. It is now 400 per day withh a third pulling out of area 4. When it was 200 per day the tab was 800k per week.Now its got to be closer to $1.5 mil a week.
None of the exalted command staff have even considered the burn out factor, you can only work people so much for so long before the productivity is gone,the money is good but burn them out now and what are you going to do come summer?
that's a good idea , extra money for working coppers , city doesn't have additional cost of hiring new coppers , cpd should require officers selected to work are workers and not dogs that won't write a ticket , make an arrest or hide in an office.
Thank you SCC for pointing out the BS that McTool and Tiny Dancer have been feeding the public.
Anybody in the in the media want to pick up on this story and run with it? You will get noticed and sell a lot of papers.
Boy does McCarthy say some dumb stuff! How silly to make that comment while hiring back all those cops on their days off. If "hiring more cops doesn't reduce crime," then why are you doing it on a daily basis in huge numbers and $$$$$$? WOW!
I am a retired CPD Sgt. who currently teaches college, and the McNumbnuts quote is right out of the Kansas Study, which has been used as an excuse to justify Community Policing and anything other than Aggressive Patrol, since the early 80's. The reality is that increased police presence DOES deter crime and the fact that he is putting 400 more officers on the street clearly shows his actions are different from his words. He has also shown his inability to plan ahead. The fact that the City has had to rent/lease cars some with out of state license plates to augment the current fleet is further proof that McNumbnuts did not plan ahead. If you doubt me go to 6120 S. Racine, the cars are parked west of the building against the guardrail. However, they will not hire more officers because the City population is down and dying. Chicago is already dead in some places. I drove though Austin this weekend and was shocked to see how it has declined. It looks like Detroit. So suck up the overtime because it is cheaper to pay you than to hire new officers with a benefit pkg. for 20 yrs into the furture. A casino may help, but the issues are far more complex than just bringing in more revenue, far more complex. "G"
"UPDATE: 200 cops a day.....hmmmmmm. That would be about the size of TRU. Or MSF. Or even SOS."
Actually for a unit to put 200 PO's on the street every day for one watch they would need at least 264 street PO bodies : 8% furlough, 14% RDO, 5% medical/IOD (in a unit of gung ho coppers, the IOD would be much higher), 5% comp time (I'm generous with the comp time, gung ho coppers never want to take a day off.)
To have a manageable span of control, they need 1 Sgt for every 10 POs (five 10-4 units on the Sgts Log) they need at least 26 street Sgts.
The house mice are already in place, so they are not listed as street police.
The city is saving BIG money paying OT rather than hiring.
April Fools Day is a good time to stop working VRI. Don't do it for a week and show some unity.
The same aldercreatures on west and south side Brookins/Beale etc. that were instrumental in getting those special units (sos/tru/msf) disbanded, have flip-flopped and now want them back. Unbelievable!!
Anonymous said...
We can't strike, but we can refuse to work VRI. Just say no for a week. Make them squirm. Don't whore yourselves out for a few dollars. There's a bigger picture here.
2/25/2013 01:10:00 AM
I agree but because you can't get 4 police officers to agree on a lunch location, you'll never get a few thousand to boycott special for a week.
Really? Because we just got back from VRI (Violence Reduction Initiative) and the word there is that we are hiring back 200 cops....per day....and paying out nearly $800,000 per week in overtime to man the violence zones and hot spots.
this won't last
Stfu...we dont need another stroke unit manned with 2 year wonders playing cowboy. Vri is a good way to help those of us who need the extra cash.
Take the money. You aren't going to change the Racoon's mind no matter what you do
There were so many cops on the street last night in our district that i almost couldn't believe it. It was the way it should be. We actually had backup on these crazy jobs and it really felt like we took the neighborhood back... at least for a night. And, guess what, not one single person shot and i can't even remember a shots fired call last night. More cops really does have an effect and shuts down neighborhoods. I don't care where they're getting the money, but thank you for the help. We really need it.
-southside district
All this money being spent. Somehow I get the feeling that we will pay for this with NO RAISE, NO RETRO, NO 55 to 60 FREE MEDICAL UPON RETIREMENT, ETC.
Yes an A-hole in logic.
More cops on the street doesn't deter crime -- more cops on overtime does.
You're an officer of the law sworn to uphold the US Constitution however anyone that supports the 2nd amendment of that Constitution should be charged with a crime of conspiracy in your mind.
Sounds like a violation of your oath to me. Resign!
Guns and alcohol are a bad combination. A very-very-very dangerous environment he says.
We should never allow guns inside an establishment where liquor is served the man preaches.
However his own police force that he heads up allows a blc of .02 for thousands of officers and exempts Sargent's and above from being randomly tested -- do they not?
A Chicago police officer can have a beer with dinner right before their shift but it would be too dangerous for a citizen of Chicago to have a beer with dinner if they are carrying at the time? You don't make eff-ing sense Garrrry. Resign.
Your actions don't match your words kid. Go back to Central Casting.
Hey! I made the New York Daily News.
Check it out: THE BRONX BULLshitter.
Aa hole in the logic, but not even a drop in the bucket!
This will be the mayors war cry when people start dropping this summer.
"We are putting 400 more officers on the street"
See, all is well people!
Scc, I don't mind it... It's making me about 1200 dollars clear per month. Don't f this up. If they keep VRI around I will be perfectly happy. I could care less about manpower if I'm getting an extra 15000 per year on top of my court and regular pay. VRI so far has paid for both of my kids tuition.
Anonymous said...
Dics are allowed to work VRI at a higher rate of pay than POs. Hmmmm, doesnt sound too fair when they will be doing the exact same work side by side, does it?
2/25/2013 04:25:00 AM
Right, and don't pay the sergeants at their regular payscale, either.
Have them start answering calls for service so I can get a lunch!
This guy mccarthy is full of more bullshit than a TEXAS cattle ranch. I've never heard of so many ways of dealing with the same problems that don't work. hire some Police and start kicking some ass.tell the Rev's, Pastors and politicians to shove it until the job gets done.People are sick of this bullshit.
On the 23rd, they had about 385 total between regular and supplemental. That was for 1800 only. They wanted about 450 according to a Lt. Its a win -win for the city. They get a hundreds of cops on the street, satisfying the citizens, aldermen, and reverends. We get the o.t. We've always wanted, and the city doesn't have to pay the health and pension of new hires.
2/25/2013 02:04:00 AM
You feel better???
Anonymous said...
Dics are allowed to work VRI at a higher rate of pay than POs. Hmmmm, doesnt sound too fair when they will be doing the exact same work side by side, does it?
2/25/2013 04:25:00 AM
I don't care what dics make sorry stop bitching be happy we all get pieces of the pie!
Sound familiar?
Feb 25, 2013 12:31pm EST
* Police put more officers on the streets of Lima
* Rising crime rate a top concern among Peruvians
* U.S. couple missing, embassy helping in search
By Terry Wade and Mitra Taj
LIMA, Feb 25 (Reuters) - The brazen killing of a journalist in broad daylight and a deadly robbery in Peru's financial district prompted President Ollanta Humala to put 1,000 more police on the streets of the capital on Monday, to tackle a rising sense of public insecurity.
Interior Minister Wilfredo Pedraza rushed to reassign officers from desk jobs and put them in patrol cars as outraged citizens demanded swift action after Luis Choy, a prominent photojournalist for El Comercio, Peru's main newspaper, was gunned down in front of his house in a middle-class district of Lima on Saturday afternoon.
Anonymous said...
Dics are allowed to work VRI at a higher rate of pay than POs. Hmmmm, doesnt sound too fair when they will be doing the exact same work side by side, does it?
2/25/2013 04:25:00 AM
So how many parkers, movers and contact cards will they need?
I'm so tired of the dics complaining. They're patrolmen like us but in a higher pay grade right? That's what I've been hearing from these lazy dics...that they're just like us.give me a break.these dics walk around like us patrolmen are beneath them.when u call for an upgrade or any kind of assistance, they're rude as shit. HEY dics u guys keep milking the clock for ot and let us little patrolmen work vri.
Mg
Not hiring more cops equals less cops paying into pension.
Pension gets weaker by the month giving Rahm more leverage to cut benefits.
People being killed considered collateral damage.
McCarthy has some good qualities as Superintendent, but he will have to wear the jacket of among other things,
1. Constantly stating that the C.P.D. wouldn't do a better job with violence if more Police were hired. The way to run a major city with a Murder problem is to change the strategy.
How's that working for you?
2. Joining forces with Father Phoney in any substantial way. The snitch thing should start with Father Camera Whore snitching about what he knows about institutional rape and molestation within the Catholic Church.
Keep an arms distance from this guy. You are not a preacher.
3. Unqualified Exempt Staff. Promote real Coppers of all ranks, to key positions, to run the day to day operations. You have a few good ones that are knowledgeable. Most of them are Politically Correct administrative hacks.
Who knows, street police might actually respect the higher ups?
4. You have not changed the way the Dept gives Promotional Exams in any significant way. Make your 20% promotions by "merit", but then leave the rest of the spots open for Police Officers to LEGITIMATLEY COMPETE with one another for who actually has a higher test score.
I know, it's a new concept in Chicago, but why not try it?
Now Garry, I know you are not going to do any of the above, because Rahm will say no.
In Summary;
Not enough police,
weaker pension,
more Murders,
useless strategy,
father phoney,
many unqualified exempts,
scam testing,
Rahm says no.
It's the Chicago Way.
Dics are allowed to work VRI at a higher rate of pay than POs. Hmmmm, doesnt sound too fair when they will be doing the exact same work side by side, does it?
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Obviously you patrolmen can't get the job done so they needed to bring in the heavy hitters, with the detectives.... RELAX JUNIOR, this is just HUMOR... So don't go getting uppity.
Bet you won't read about his robbery in the MSM. Southsiders hunting on Gold Coast/River North area again.
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20130225/gold-coast/group-of-women-teenage-girl-rob-women-gold-coast
CHICAGO — Four are in custody after group, including a 14-year-old girl, ganged up on two women and robbed them in the Gold Coast early Sunday, police said.
Two 21-year-old women were walking in the first block of East Grand Avenue about 1 a.m. when they were approached by four females, police said. Cops said the female suspects, who ranged in age from 14 to 22, got into a fight with the victims before robbing one of them and fleeing.
Officers responded and arrested the four, who were identified by the victims and witnesses, police said. All four were charged with felony robbery and one count of misdemeanor battery.
Arrested and charged were a 14-year-old girl whose name wasn't released because she's a juvenile; Erica D. Riley, 18, of the 16700 block of Butterfield Drive in suburban Country Club Hills; Leah E. Robinson, 22, of the 6900 block of South Oglesby Avenue; and Aliyah L. Thompson, 22, of the 8500 block of South University Avenue.
Dics are allowed to work VRI at a higher rate of pay than POs. Hmmmm, doesnt sound too fair when they will be doing the exact same work side by side, does it?
Hater….
and they keep taking vehicles out other units so they will have these cars for VRI. This guy just keeps on giving, giving me the assurences that he is by far the worst thing to happen to CPD.
When they offer a 1% raise over 5 years & tell you work VRI to make up the difference don't start whining.
We can't strike, but we can refuse to work VRI. Just say no for a week. Make them squirm. Don't whore yourselves out for a few dollars. There's a bigger picture here.
2/25/2013 01:10:00 AM
A week is 7 days = 7 days of VRI for me =$2,450 take home sorry but I'm a whore
Never use the word "logic" in the same breath with Garry McCarthy.
*** JUDGE CALLS OUT MCCARTHY-ISIM'S ***
Judge calls out Chicago Police superintendent
Judge Jeanine Pirro recalls Garry's Jim Crow and government sponsored racism speech, then ask's if Garry McCarthy is really a cop.
Calls him a racist comparing NATO response and downtown crime to the south side and says mayor Rahm must be corrupt too based upon his standards..
It's a classic!
Our judges are not smart enough to make a decision, they should depend on public opinion polls get's called out.
Rahm's ties and donations from Hollywood are compared to Garry's talk about 2nd amendment supporters being called corrupt.
Check it out!
Anonymous said...
Boy does McCarthy say some dumb stuff! How silly to make that comment while hiring back all those cops on their days off. If "hiring more cops doesn't reduce crime," then why are you doing it on a daily basis in huge numbers and $$$$$$? WOW!
2/25/2013 08:24:00 AM
Exactly.
Maybe at Racine, but they are just outfitting the Harrison office with computers and desks and haven't announced a CO.
O/T heres is laittle something about the streetlightassassin and tiny
http://www.suntimes.com/18468415-761/police-supt-mccarthy-has-his-100-percent-support-emanuel-says.html when ever a politician tells you don't worry you better worry in spades
he told the same thing to brizard remeber? and then WHAM, Under De Bus
Firemen pension told Rhamfather to f&@k off and kept pension money invested in gun companies. Smart move since gun sales are off the charts. What did our fools at the police pension fund do? They rolled over and did Rhams will. Traitors all!
Anonymous said...
Dics are allowed to work VRI at a higher rate of pay than POs. Hmmmm, doesnt sound too fair when they will be doing the exact same work side by side, does it?
2/25/2013 04:25:00 AM
Right, and don't pay the sergeants at their regular payscale, either.
2/25/2013 12:03:00 PM
Apples and oranges my friend. The dics aren't getting paid to investigate like the Sgts are getting paid to supervise. The Dics are doing the exact same thing as the POs so they should be paid the same. I'm sure the Dics won't mind and if they do its voluntary so don't sign up.
And in the news, SCC, Mayor gives McCarthy a 100% approval rating. Didn't he do that for the head of the Public Schools, Brizzard, just weeks before giving him the ax? Hmmmm.....the end of this era may be approaching...
Anonymous said...
Shhhhh. No VRI talk. To much money to be made. If mush public get a hold of info could sink us. $$$$$$ for po's more important than being right.
2/25/2013 12:57:00 AM
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My opinion is that the VRI is Rahm's way of fucking our pension up too!
By dangling the "overtime" money in our much needed lives out to us...(for kids tuition and payments and debts)we subsequently are doing the job necessary with LESS. (As in more with LESS)
Thus there is no hiring of more cops and no payment into a pension as needed.
ANSWER:
EVERYONE NEEDS TO STOP DOING THE VRI overtime and any other overtime they offer.
The specialized units would need to slow or shut down and the tact /Gang teams would need to cease on the contact card bullshit and heads or whatever they do.
Let it spiral out of control but obviously WE as a department are not on the same page and therefore WE are going to shoot ourselves in the foot and fuck ourselves up not even knowing what we did!
Dangle the overtime in our faces and our GREED and NEED will force us succomb to their plan.
Like everything else about this job I have learned in almost 20 years we are are our worst own enemy!
Sad....
3 bars
Rahm's got his hand up McFailure's ass and controls his speech.
Remember figures lie and liars figure.... these two are HUGE liars.
I spent most of my career in the Detective Division. My peers say I was pretty good at it. If you don't write "dets.", use "dicKs". Who came up with this "dic" bullshit?
Could it be "the new breed"?
I'm can't believe the money hungry cops in this city. You get denied time due, treated like a child by the bosses, city shits on you every chance they get and yet you fools line up for VRI! Make the city hire cops that are going to pay into our pension, the city loves this program. I'm telling evey friend and citizen about this program so that they can raise hell on why CPD is getting this overtime so they cancel it. Dam quit being a whore to this city.
Hi People, Missy here.
Iam going to work this VRI too. I was told I have too to show people what real officers do, write parkers in great numbers.
They better give me a partner with a strong hand to write em up. I also get to work downtown at mu usual spot on Wabash. WoW, I can get the night people who think they can park for nothing.
Missy -o01
parker guru
Today, Crain's Chicago Business had a little blurb on how Chicago can increase tourism. It dismisses the grandiose ideas Rahm's pals have come up with, like a skyway ride above the river in a plastic bubble, and dove right into the real issue.
"But perhaps the best thing the city can do to attract more tourists is to address violent crime. Fairly or not, Chicago is being seen as a place where you could get shot while strolling down any street, including the Boul Mich. Dazzling lights and casinos won't bring visitors here until we seem as safe as their hometowns." http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20130223/ISSUE07/302239989/whats-happening-to-chicago-tourism-is-a-crime#ixzz2LxtXu8LE
A week is 7 days = 7 days of VRI for me =$2,450 take home sorry but I'm a whore
2/25/2013 03:54:00 PM
no need to apologize for being true to your nature.
i'm sure your bookie appreciates your dedication to duty.
VRI so far has paid for both of my kids tuition.
2/25/2013 12:02:00 PM
and your kids will thank you later, if they remember what you look like.
RETIRED DICK said...
I spent most of my career in the Detective Division. My peers say I was pretty good at it. If you don't write "dets.", use "dicKs". Who came up with this "dic" bullshit?
Could it be "the new breed"?
2/25/2013 06:16:00 PM
You cannot be serious. If you are, you are as soft as puppy shit. Wow.
RETIRED DICK said...
I spent most of my career in the Detective Division. My peers say I was pretty good at it. If you don't write "dets.", use "dicKs". Who came up with this "dic" bullshit?
Could it be "the new breed"?
2/25/2013 06:16:00 PM
Yup.
Anonymous said...
I'm so tired of the dics complaining. They're patrolmen like us but in a higher pay grade right? That's what I've been hearing from these lazy dics...that they're just like us.give me a break.these dics walk around like us patrolmen are beneath them.when u call for an upgrade or any kind of assistance, they're rude as shit. HEY dics u guys keep milking the clock for ot and let us little patrolmen work vri.
Mg
2/25/2013 02:12:00 PM
If a det is rude to you, call him or her out on it. I'm a det and I admire the patrolmen and would never even think of blowing something off. From the patrolmen on the street to the desk crews I deal with, I am always, always thankful and appreciative of their help.
I apologize on behalf of the jag dets you've had to put up with. Next time if a det doesn't want to go for an upgrade, ask him or her to explain why, say you want to learn from it.
I also would never, ever, ever think I'm above a patrolmen. As dets, we put up with a lot of shit, and some shitty working conditions...but we know you guys have it a lot worse. If it's any help, all the dets I work with feel the same way.....we go out of our way to help you guys and appreciate your efforts.
Don't let a few jags taint your opinion of the majority who aren't.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Boy does McCarthy say some dumb stuff! How silly to make that comment while hiring back all those cops on their days off. If "hiring more cops doesn't reduce crime," then why are you doing it on a daily basis in huge numbers and $$$$$$? WOW!
2/25/2013 08:24:00 AM
Exactly.
2/25/2013 04:25:00 PM
I thought the same thing....yet not one reporter has asked that question, have they?
2/25/2013 05:11:00 PM
Anonymous said...
And in the news, SCC, Mayor gives McCarthy a 100% approval rating. Didn't he do that for the head of the Public Schools, Brizzard, just weeks before giving him the ax? Hmmmm.....the end of this era may be approaching...
2/25/2013 05:12:00 PM
WBBM reported 'it should be noted the Mayor gave the same praise to former school superintendent Brizard the day before he was let go'. Priceless.
80 Sgts and 40 Lts
City gets their police for less cost and they can adjust up or down as needed and those people who need more money for tuitions can get it, what's the problem?
Besides vri, there are area sat teams and those are growing in numbers, that's the new Tru or MSF
Scc, I don't mind it... It's making me about 1200 dollars clear per month. Don't f this up. If they keep VRI around I will be perfectly happy. I could care less about manpower if I'm getting an extra 15000 per year on top of my court and regular pay. VRI so far has paid for both of my kids tuition.
2/25/2013 12:02:00 PM
So you don't mind working your days off to earn the extra money for the kids you'll now never see? You are also happy with him stripping the taxpayer neighborhoods in favor of flooding the non-taxpayer?
I would just as soon have him hire more help. This would help fund our pension. THAT is long term thinking. Grasshopper and the ant, remember?
...and to the retired Dic that wounders why we call you a Dic: reread your post for the answer. Are you guys all that pleased with yourselves?
By this logic then less cops would also not affect crime.
They need more disc, dicks, dets.
from a former detective
Can lieutenants work it? A certain female lieut. in 024 on midnights is crying about how lieutenants should have first crack at ANY O.T. details and how the cmdr. screwed her and she should NOT be on the 1st watch.
The answer to the first question is yes, they can work it. But as I understand, they are subject to the same seniority rules as the P.O.'s so she may not always get her watch of choice.
I know the LT you are talking about. She's been taken care of ever since she's been a PPO. Her stint on midnights is temporary and she knows it but she still bitches at how unfair it is.
If there really is a god, she would be in 011 on midnights.
We can't strike, but we can refuse to work VRI. Just say no for a week. Make them squirm. Don't whore yourselves out for a few dollars. There's a bigger picture here.
2/25/2013 01:10:00 AM
A week is 7 days = 7 days of VRI for me =$2,450 take home sorry but I'm a whore
AMEN brother!Get it while it's hot because it won't last forever.
Anonymous said...
City gets their police for less cost and they can adjust up or down as needed and those people who need more money for tuitions can get it, what's the problem?
2/25/2013 11:57:00 PM
City saves money by none of it being pensionable. No pension contributions.
Anonymous said...
City gets their police for less cost and they can adjust up or down as needed and those people who need more money for tuitions can get it, what's the problem?
2/25/2013 11:57:00 PM
The problem is the City gets extra police without hiring any. The City saves money on our backs. We are complicit in violating our own contract. We are working with all the liability and risk and we are giving the City a pass both on overtime premium pay and pension contributions.
If no one went, the City would have to do hirebacks at premium rate. Personally, I would like to see that money pensionable.
So when we whore ourselves with the self delusion of "needing more money for tuition" we are sticking it to ourselves. As usual.
But if lots of coppers stayed away, there would always be the whores/vultures who would swoop in and snap up any available blood money.
That's the problem.
Anonymous said...
RETIRED DICK said...
I spent most of my career in the Detective Division. My peers say I was pretty good at it. If you don't write "dets.", use "dicKs". Who came up with this "dic" bullshit?
Could it be "the new breed"?
2/25/2013 06:16:00 PM
Yup.
2/25/2013 09:40:00 PM
You can identify the "texting generation" by their horrific grammar and spelling.
The Det was mean to me, Boo Hoo. Maybe its because the case you brought is bull shit, maybe your victim is worse than your offender, maybe because you didn't bother to ask any questions when you got on scene and the Det did his job and sorted thru the BS. Maybe you out and out lied about what happened and the Det wants nothing to do with it.
By the way in the wake of all the pension funds dumping gun manufacturers, driving the price of the stocks down, I loaded up. Wait till their quarterlies come out and the stocks skyrocket. Thanks Rham you assfuck and other assfucks just like him. Just helped the shit out of my retirement.
>>>Your numbers are off by about 2X. It is now 400 per day withh a third pulling out of area 4. When it was 200 per day the tab was 800k per week.Now its got to be closer to $1.5 mil a week.
None of the exalted command staff have even considered the burn out factor, you can only work people so much for so long before the productivity is gone,the money is good but burn them out now and what are you going to do come summer?
2/25/2013 08:09:00 AM<<<
That is absolutely right. The way too young, never really was the street police, always merit promoted exempts just never see the cops on the street or know how they feel.
I have seen this at 1st Watch Roll Calls and it worries me. Cops are tired and burned out and will make mistakes. It was different when we could get them the night off when they wanted it.
"Bet you won't read about his [sic] robbery in the MSM. Southsiders hunting on Gold Coast/River North area again."
2/25/2013 02:50:00 PM
The papers here had that routine story up yesterday.
dnainfo.com
Another "alternative independent neighborhood media" poser. Moving on Chicago from New York City. Owned by the Ricketts family, some of the richest people in the country. Very anti-police.
Reminds me of the "Buy Local" and "Eat Organic" slogans printed on products made by huge multinationals.
By the way in the wake of all the pension funds dumping gun manufacturers, driving the price of the stocks down, I loaded up. Wait till their quarterlies come out and the stocks skyrocket. Thanks Rham you assfuck and other assfucks just like him. Just helped the shit out of my retirement.
2/26/2013 12:42:00 PM
I'll second that. Sold something else at a profit, bought gun stock. GREAT investment at this price. Thanks, Rahm.
RETIRED DICK said...
I spent most of my career in the Detective Division. My peers say I was pretty good at it. If you don't write "dets.", use "dicKs". Who came up with this "dic" bullshit?
Could it be "the new breed"?
2/25/2013 06:16:00 PM
Yup.
2/25/2013 09:40:00 PM
Are you two serious?
This is why the democratic party runs rough shot over the city. People like you who are distracted by petty shit like what abbreviations are used to refer to a detective. If this is something that bothers you you need to get a fucking hobby. Unplug from the internet so you wont have to be so offended by what abbreviation the "new breed" refers to your former title code.
[...] This is why the democratic party runs rough shot over the city. [...]
Yes, you are correct.
Non-voters and continuous Democratic loyalists are factors too.
Face it, there are A*Holes in just about every Unit on the Dept. Put away your paint roller. Just like there's that guy/gal on your Watch that you would never want to work with, there are J/O's in the Detective Division. . . . and on the Mayors Detail. . . and on the Swat team, etc. etc. If you've had a bad experience with a Dick, ask around about him. CALL HIM OUT!! We are all blue. Don't assume all Dicks are A*holes. Quite the contrary. You won't feel that way after I've handled your OI-shooting. I studied hard way back in the day and scored well. I had Great teachers on this job! Many are already dead now. I'm still learning every day. No, I'm not politically connected. No, I'm not merit. I work my ass off. Always have.
That said, Yes. I do have seniority over you and with that comes privilege. In these tough economic times (No, I didn't vote for him) I need the money too. Things are tight in my household, and we are very budget minded here. My kids don't stop growing, eating, etc. With more seniority comes more bills: Medical, high school, college, etc. Don't ever NOT put in to work extra, even if you think you don't have the time. Eventually you will get the call. Do what is asked and you will be recognized. Put away your iPhone for a Tour and pay attention to what is outside your window. Yeah! Leave it in your locker. Watching NetFlix might get you hurt/killed. It'll do you good. Give it a try. See you at roll call.
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