Another "Duh!" Moment for Rahm
- In a City Hall press conference with Cook County State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez and Police Supt. Garry McCarthy, Mayor Rahm Emanuel called for longer sentences for illegal gun possession, calling Illinois’ current justice system “a turnstile and a revolving door.”
Emanuel cited a New York law that mandated a three-and-a-half year sentence for possession as an important part of New York City’s “strategy for reducing gun violence in their city.”
The current sentence for felons caught with guns in Illinois is two years, but violators generally serve half that -- often less, after credit for good behavior. In New York, they must serve 85 percent of their sentences. Keeping those criminals off the streets for extended periods results in less crime, Emanuel said.
Imagine that - if they aren't on the street, they can't commit crime. Wow. And yet, Quinn and Dart are emptying the prisons and jails on a near-daily basis.
At the same press conference, McCarthy talked about "truth in sentencing." It's like someone shut off the flow of kool-aid and these idiots started seeing reality for the first time.
Supposedly there were a few unopened cases of kool-aid in Preckwinkle's office. Alvarez must have found a secret stash, as she blamed gun laws for not working - they work if you enforce them Anita, you idiot.
At the same press conference, McCarthy talked about "truth in sentencing." It's like someone shut off the flow of kool-aid and these idiots started seeing reality for the first time.
Supposedly there were a few unopened cases of kool-aid in Preckwinkle's office. Alvarez must have found a secret stash, as she blamed gun laws for not working - they work if you enforce them Anita, you idiot.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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Your comment calling Anita Alvarez; "Anita, you idiot" reminded me of the old Saturday Night Live news shows where Dan Aykroyd calls Jane Curtin Jane you ignorant slut. I'm not calling Anita that but that's how she sounds. LOL
I kinda went on a rant in the "Charges Filed" thread, but this girl's murder is on the courts, State's Attorney's Office, and the cost-cutting politician's hands. This piece of shit should have been locked up.
Gotta love this guy. He is a real genius. He must read SCC.
Judge Walker in Juvenile court lets about 99% of gun toating bangers back on the street with a fist pump. Dont you think Juvenile court should be a lot more strict, sending the message to the young and impressionable that when you do the crime, you gotz to do the time. Walker on the other hand seems to be playing for the other team and so does the many judges at 26 and we all know who they are.
Pat Camden was on WLS Sunday making this same point
Pat said there needs to be "teeth" in the sentencing, meaning offender actually gets significant jail time
Of course as we all know, the likelihood of offenders actually sitting in jail for long periods is virtually nil. Hug-a-thug judges and ghetto-pandering politicos will see that this never happens
Crook County will not do what is necessary to protect it's citizens. Not will it allow people the means (concealed carry) to protect themselves. It's time that the stupid average citizens learned this. But I don't hold much hope there. The general citizenry is a bunch of retarded morons who keep voting for Democrats.
So they deserve what they get
A dim, dim light bulb comes on...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-hadiya-pendleton-probation-20130212,0,1383301.story
Okay, so it's new initiative number what? Four? Five? in 2013, alone?
It's free. It makes them look good. It doesn't require manpower or redeployment or anything besides a press conference, so I'm sure McWhisperer will claim it's a roaring success in about three days.
"Illegal gun possession" = "Missing piece of paper" quite often in Chicago. Ideal "crime" to go after instead of street violence by known repeat offenders.
I knew this asshole would drag this shit in with him from New York.
Just think:
How many legitimate Citizens would be alive today if their killers were housed in a cage where they belong?
Possibly 15-year-old Hadiya Pendleton.
How many of our own Officers would be alive today if their killers were in the cage?
Flisk
Soderberg
Wortham
Strouse
Camp
Knight
How many more?
The first two or three arrests get tossed.
Probation
Secret Probation
Double Secret Probation
(and sometimes a Third)
Then, possibly Prison.
This system is a fucking joke!
The corrupt judges in Cook County have a lot of blood on their hands for not giving out the maximum sentence for felons committing gun crimes -- and yes, so do Dart and Quinn for setting them free as early as possible.
The laws need to be changed so that judges have no discretion in sentencing, with a long prison term mandatory in every case. This means that Quinn needs to stop closing Illinois prisons -- we need all the beds we can muster to accomodate the killing savages that roam the south side and west side.
All of this shows how DUMB the people are who are in power to enforce the Illinois laws. From the Governor and Attorney General down to the Cook County State's Attorney.
Try to remember that, the next time you go vote.
Next case.
How about making UUW By Felon a Class X felony (6-30) to be served at 85%?
is that little barb west 015 in the background ! hay barb I got your contact card right here !
The sgt's sold the blue shirts out again !!!!
I hope they choke on the ME-TOO clause !!!
The LT'S are next to sell out -
Fuck all white shirts back-stabbing " we got your back " lying a-holes !
Their idea will be to make honest gunowners into felons.
The Public and the Constitution be Damned!
Do you really believe that a community the elects known criminals by a majority over sixty percent is interested in hearing that? Do you really believe that the gangs are not funneling payoffs to known former gang members in city and county government? Do you really believe that the organization that gave us Greylord and Silver Shovel and a legally insane judge is going to change? If you do, you don't need the Kool Aid.
What they continue to call for is continued dis-arming of law-abiding citizens, as they drag that frayed carrot around of "stricter" gun-laws and more law and order and a safer Chicago and Illinois.
It's all show, except the attempt at unwinding the Second Amendment.
Rahm standing behind McCarthy with his hand up McCarthy's ass moving McCarthy's lips was hilarious.
This State is a financial basket case. For the last number of decades it has been run by a cabal in Chicago & Springfield that has run the law enforcement, education and public service systems in to the ground.
Citizens must bear some of the blame, but we have been cock-blocked in our efforts to stem the deterioration tide by open borders and the coddling of gangs by the same politicians who made sure Illinois did not strictly enforce laws already on the books and made sure they got the banger, sanctuary city vote.
It's reported Madigan has announced public hearings on concealed carry.
Yeah, after millions lost in lawsuits striking down his interpretation of our Second Amendment rights and Cullerton's recent attempt at ramming gun control thru the legislature. These guys are so full off Barbara Streisand.
They should be in jail for contempt of court. It is settled law. We have the right to bear arms to protect ourselves.
I hate to be doom-and-gloom but I don't see things getting better where prison Barbers in IL are paid $72K a year with gold plated union retirement benefits, IL is $80 billion underfunded in pension obligations, Chicago $40 billion, unchecked illegal immigrants, Nancy Pelosi saying we don't have a spending problem (then why do we need to raise taxes over 50%), the U.S. Senate has not submitted a budget in -- four -- years, there's a Senate operated, tax-payer funded Barber Shop that lost $400,000 last year and the Post Office operates losing $25 million -- a day.
When politicians can't address the little things, it shows you there's no why they're going to address the big things.
-not a cop
These Socialists in liberal clothing cant have it both ways!! The want offenders released before we're done doing the paper but complain when they commit more crimes...
It's only taken 500+ murders last year and repeated embarrassments on the news every night, but the light bulb is finally starting to flicker. If they're not careful they might actually put some policies in place that could make a difference.
some years back a young officer on the south side was murdered and the alvarez law was born--- ever try to get someone charged with it--- it's almost impossible--- nothing like fighting on the phone with an asa trying to establish if someone is a known gang member--- the 25 gang tatoos covering his body don't count....
How can Dart afford to keep the criminals in jail when he has to employ all the MIKE SHEENANS family and friends from the 19th ward employed. Most if not all god forbid have to work a REAL or full days work!
If they only applied that logic to all crimes...
Nah... can't piss off the voters now can we?!
Typical liberal, hypocritical bullshit. Do they really wonder why crime is out of control, or have they purposely turned the courts into a revolving door to pander to their constituents? They only support and enforce laws when it supports their political agenda. GFY
And his fellow Democrat, the Gov, has just released more of these people and closed a few prisons.
Did you see the "do-gooder" that claims that the overcrowded prisons in Illinois could not house the people doing extra time for gun crimes. But they all want to take away our legal firearms and make us criminals. Legal gun owners will be the only people in prison if the libs have their way.
didn't perrwinkie or alvereez reduce penalty for marijuana use because to many people of color were being arrested . yep don't change your life style of drug use kids , democrats will reduce penalty . wait let's charge citizens that obey gun laws more fees to own a gun , yep that'll solve the problem .
it's not about the children it's about the money .
Duh , inquiring minds want to know,
Where was the $1,500,000 given to cease fire by our mayor spent , what politicians use gang members to get the vote out ?
So they're going to increase sentences and then increase paroles...
Alvarez is such an idiot. Even she cannot believe she is the CCSA
"Damn it! Chicago has the best Gun Control Laws in the country! How dare the truth screw up the narrative!"
Read at:
http://gunfreezone.net/wordpress/
As long as we are implementing the New York model, why don't we implement 25 years and out at any age like them also.
You better talk to Toni Preckwinkle. She saving money too.
It's obvious that these guys are at the end of their rope and just trying to rehash old shit.
It's easy to attack Quinn and Dart, they're easy targets. How about commenting on the judges who don't have either the intelligence or the "testicular fortitude" to hand out convictions for firearm related crimes? If the sentence is 2 years, impose the 2 years. Maybe some judge will realize that probation is not the right thing to do-well maybe anyway!
Can you BELIEVE these Fuckin Idiots.I guess when you run out of BULLSHIT to tell the Sheeple,the only thing left is the TRUTH!!!!!!!!!
The State of Illinois has no money. Haven't you heard? Gov. Quinn's answer to generate revenue was and is to raise taxes. Result: big business moves out of IL and we lose valuable jobs and the unemployment rate rises.
Gov Quinn wants to save money so his answer was and is to shut down jails and reduce sentencing. It cost the taxpayer's money to house these criminals. Haven't you heard? Result: repeat offender's are released to commit more crime and terrorize the citizen's/taxpayer's. Crime rises and it takes more time and money to catch these same offenders and the process repeats itself over and over again. It also teaches these criminals that crime does pay. They should be held accountable for their actions, but I digress. This is Cook County. Even college professors have their students study case files of the hardest criminals and look for ways to release them. Pretty smart huh?
This State, City and County only cares about money. It does not care about its people. When will this Government ever learn. If you put in the effort to truly care and protect the citizens of IL by rewarding the taxpayer and attacking the non-tax paying criminal, instead if rewarding them all the time, we may just restore our faith in you and the problems will decrease.
Don't get me started on the welfare system either. There's a pot of money that seems to have a bottomless pit. Why aren't we testing the receipts randomly for drugs? Why aren't we investigating the rampant fraud that is apparent in this broken system? Why do we reward perfectly abled working bodies to receive free money for life? Isn't welfare suppose to be temporary? Anyway...
Anita has taken to wearing more conservative colors lately. Someone must have told her that the red party dress when talking about murder victims was not kosher.
No shit Sherlock....and they get a pay check for this too!
Beware of mandatory minimums
What does one expect when the people hired into these sensative positions are inept.In Chicago it's what political party you belong to and who you know.Now the whole country has gotten chicagoized. Fight back people or become a third rate power. We will live like the Paki's or Hindu's. So if you like worshipping cows just stay on with the program the dems have laid out for us.
Before blaming guns for the detrimental actions of criminals, I'd first like to know how many personal guns, and the types of these guns, are owned by Supt. McC, Anita, Dart, Rahm, Madigan, and the rest of Chicago Politicians, including ex-Chicago politicians like the Daleys, so eager to blame guns for all Chicagos decades long violence. Perhaps Chicago's Reverends could also supply us with their gun ownership too.
Hey Randy from 018, Get some balls and work the south side or west side first before you comment.
Time to grow up guys. The sgts. Contract is as good as its going to get under the rhamfather.
Hey moron, the "Alvarez Law" is the "Valadez Law". It was named after one of our own who was killed. Maybe you will get approval when you actually work up a case properly. I've never had a problem getting one approved.
Anonymous said...
Before blaming guns for the detrimental actions of criminals, I'd first like to know how many personal guns, and the types of these guns, are owned by Supt. McC, Anita, Dart, Rahm, Madigan, and the rest of Chicago Politicians, including ex-Chicago politicians like the Daleys, so eager to blame guns for all Chicagos decades long violence. Perhaps Chicago's Reverends could also supply us with their gun ownership too.
2/12/2013 02:32:00 PM
You're not from here, are you?
In IL, and especially in Chit-town, the laws don't apply to politicians. Only the proletariat.
some years back a young officer on the south side was murdered and the alvarez law was born--- ever try to get someone charged with it--- it's almost impossible--- nothing like fighting on the phone with an asa trying to establish if someone is a known gang member--- the 25 gang tatoos covering his body don't count....
2/12/2013 07:30:00 AM
It's 'valadez' asshole! As in Alex Valadez. Maybe you don't get approval because your lazy and inattentive to detail. Have some fucking respect for one of our fallen!
I am glad they finally got this Law and Order thing figured out. More police, arrest the criminals and put them in jail with long jail terms. So the question is why do they have fewer police, and the Governor is closing prisons? Was the press conference to show how stupid the people in charge are?
McStoolSample crying like a bitch... "WAHH! Chicago DOES NOT have the STRICTEST gun laws in the nation! WAAAHH!"
NOBODY is saying shit about enforcing with prejudice, the laws already on the books.
*Squeaky-Squooky-Squeak! -Freshly twisted balloon animal of distraction for the public*
"We need more gun laws!"
GTFOH & STFU!
Sell that crazy shit elsewhere... We're full up to the fuckin' ceiling with it.
Those who hijack the narrative, get to dictate the tone, content and pacing of the conversation.
They fall over each other making it all about GUNS!
So... Just pretend you don't see that Skull Man looking muthafuckah easing out of the shadows like Dracula with a G-U-N in his hand, huh?
Heh... We'll gladly pull up a lawn chair to see a murder of Skull Men scampering up the down-spout of somebody close to Rahm, an alderfool or one of these worthless, pantyless Chicago newsies...
Then they fly away like crows...
It's NOT a gun problem! It's a prosecution and sentencing problem!
The Police ARE locking these bastards up but C.C.S.A./Felony Review wants to play "Telephone Court."
We hit on a possible cure. Just put Shithead on the phone...
*Well Officer, based on what you're telling me, no approval... "Hold on state! Somebody wants to talk to you." -Hey SHITHEAD! Telephone!- Whodafukdisis? Bitch, youmuhlawy'r?No? Sukmuhdik!*
*GASP!*
The time that elapses between arrest and court appearance does the State's Attorney count that as credit for time served ?
welcome to the new world of ACCOUNTABILITY 26th/ cal
ENJOY!
Jim Ade is a lying jag off... I like how you include language in your contract "city to offer representation and hold sergeants union harmless in event of litigation from retires challenging pension changes."
If that don't tell you that he knew he was selling out
The blame rests squarely at the top of the heap. Lets start with the chief judges. They are the ones responsible for establishing the precedence for sentencing and well pretty much most everything else. I don't think they could change this even if they wanted to.
Anonymous said...
The time that elapses between arrest and court appearance does the State's Attorney count that as credit for time served ?
2/12/2013 09:14:00 PM
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Yes
Police officers have been crying foul for years, we lock them up and the state makes deals with these convicts and their attorneys. The judges let them walk with a slap on the wrist. Years of this. And now those in charge are finally questioning this insanity, the same insanity police have been screaming about
And they are only coming forward now because its out in the open. All of a sudden we are so concerned, where was everyone for the last 30 years?
Anonymous said...
Time to grow up guys. The sgts. Contract is as good as its going to get under the rhamfather.
2/12/2013 04:28:00 PM
Off the blog, Ade. Go peddle you BS on the Sgt's. website.
Remember, if he doesn't pull the trigger, he is non violent.
Doesn't mean anything that he only pointed a gun at someone. Early release!
Now this is a state of the union address worthy murder? I guess you shouldn't shoot anybody four blocks from Obama's mansion. There have been countless murders and serious crimes committed by shitbirds that should've been in jail. Cook County is a joke. Plea bargains, early release...anything to avoid the cost of incarceration. Don't ever kid yourself this is always about the almighty dollar, no matter what media whore reverand/politician says about the welfare of "Our Children"
I'm not a LEO or a lawyer, just a citizen blogger with what I like to think is common sense. And to me, the obvious question is: If you're really concerned about violent crime committed with guns, then why not put people away, and keep them away, for the violent crime?
Then you won't have to worry about felons roaming the street, with guns or any other weapons.
The really troubling thing is, they seem to be prosecuting guns more than they're prosecuting violent individuals.
Just listen to the language -- "reducing GUN violence." We're left to assume that they don't much mind assault, battery, or murder, unless a gun is used.
Decriminalizing certain substances, such as marijuana, sure would free a lot of resources, and jail space, that could be used to get the really violent people.
- jaylib
"The really troubling thing is, they seem to be prosecuting guns more than they're prosecuting violent individuals."
Jaylib, that has become the standard in our society.
Rather than seek out the responsible party, people want to blame "computer error" (hey, a PERSON programmed the computer), shipping error (a PERSON incorrectly transcribed/read the address), etc.
It's easier to blame an inanimate object. This way no one's feelings get hurt.
And it's human nature to believe that everyone shares your values, when in fact, not everyone does.
Murder is arguably the most serious crime you can commit against another human being. If someone is willing to commit murder, why is it some believe that unlawfully obtaining/carrying a firearm is even an issue with people like that?
No one wants to admit that there are evil people in the world.
But there are. They would just as soon kill you as look at you.
They're a small percentage of our society, but they exist.
rb
....to get the really violent people.
- jaylib
2/13/2013 08:12:00 PM
"....there's just one way to handle the killers and the spoilers...."
Chalkie
Give it a rest about how New York does this and that every time you want to shift blame for your short coming mayor midget. You are in Chicago and you can't even do it the Chicago way. We already have enough laws on the books to cover every conceivable crime.
What we don't have is enforcement. You promised 1000 more police and now we 2000 less.
Maybe in New York you can promise 1000 more police and instead take away 2000. Hell they have 33000 so they can absorb a hit.
We have 9000. 1000 more makes a difference. 2000 less calls for all hands on deck. No time off, no furlough extensions. No holidays off. Pissed off police officers.
New York gives their officers a full pension after 20 years, regardless of age.
That's the ticket mighty might go to New York and stay there., then you can tell them how you do it in Chicago.
That law in NYC is BS. Seen plenty of people getting caught with a gun and are out the next day, and 99% of the time don't do the time.
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