Tuesday, March 26, 2013

Chicago Magazine Covers Clearance Rate

  • Only 132 of the 507 murder cases in the city last year were closed last year. That makes for a homicide clearance rate of 26 percent—the lowest in two decades, according to internal police records provided to Chicago. (The true picture is even worse; more on that later.) To put it another way: About three-quarters of the people who killed someone in Chicago in 2012 have gotten away with murder—so far, at least. “Those stats suggest a crisis,” says Arthur Lurigio, a criminologist at Loyola University Chicago.

    It’s a crisis every bit as pressing as the city’s high homicide rate, because the former feeds the latter. If murderers aren’t apprehended, they’re free to kill again. If other bad guys get the feeling that there are few consequences for their actions, they too will be emboldened. “The word has to be out [on the street] that the cases are not being cleared,” Lurigio says.

26%? We thought one-third was bad. A quarter is even worse.
  • Given the record low clearance rate last year, more than 30 police sources, including current and former top commanders and 15 detectives, agreed to talk about the problem. These interviews—combined with the internal police data provided to Chicago—reveal a detective force that is undermanned and overextended, struggling against reluctant prosecutors and a notorious no-snitch code. Last year’s department-wide consolidation and reorganization, initiated by Superintendent Garry McCarthy, has made a bad situation even worse. As one South Side detective put it: “It’s a perfect storm of shit.”
That is quite the understatement.

The article explains in detail how Detective Areas were closed, manpower scattered across unfamiliar neighborhoods, and a complete lack of promoting detectives hamstrung the D-unit over the course of years. J-Fled is quoted along with Tommy Byrne (he loves the reorganization by the way) and numerous anonymous detectives. We haven't heard the clearance rate this year, but we're sure anything above 30% will be touted as brilliant planning by McConsolidation and his staff.

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152 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Cleared" doesn't even necessarily mean "prosecuted" and certainly doesn't mean anyone's convicted, correct?

3/26/2013 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Heh, guess it's about time to wheel out all those ol' confiscated guns again eh?

Look over here...no over here..

3/26/2013 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another problem is that they instituted "teams" with absolutely no training on how a team should conduct an investigation.

3/26/2013 12:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Chicago should have a:

"We'll Leave the Light On For You" campaign!

If the 507 minus the 132 represent different shooters, and we prosecuted all of them, than the current 400 suites that are open at the Cook County jail would be occupied and Preckwinkle would have to put up the "NO Vacancy" sign.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT??? lol

/sarcasm

3/26/2013 12:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


NRA is running around pointing out that the 2012 TRAC data just came in from Univ of Saracuse with regard to federal prosecution of gun crimes and guess what?

Out of 90 districts Chicago comes in at number 90, the bottom of the barrel.

3/26/2013 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's a fuckin disaster plain and simple.

Terrible equipment if any.

Computers that sound like biplanes from the world war and work like they sound.

10 to 11-mile drives to the areas for the mail or what ever silly ass reason, grease and oil etc.

30 to 40 miles put on a car to drive to 3 addresses to do interviews not counting the mileage going back to the district.

30 to 45-minute rides in traffic in the summer to homicide scenes, and so on and so on.

Witnesses taking 60 to 90 minute bus rides from their homes to areas because each area is the size of a county.

Believe me, that's only a small sample of the destruction caused by McInept.

This was the titanic minus the water. Not thought out in the least. But with McInept in the captain's seat of the titanic, would you expect any less.

Everybody scrambling for McRinkyDink's CONSTAT numbers instead of focusing on the cases.

AND SO ON AND SO ON AND SO ON.

3/26/2013 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“Those stats suggest a crisis,” says Arthur Lurigio, a criminologist at Loyola University Chicago.


No shit? Wow! Talk about a real smart professor! A regular fuckin' Einstine!

3/26/2013 12:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, finally, an article written by the media telling the truth. My hats off for scratching the surface of B.S. dealt with on a day to day basis.

3/26/2013 01:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if they promoted working coppers instead of the bosses kids maybe something would get accomplished....

3/26/2013 01:54:00 AM  
Anonymous GLOCKSTER JUNEBUG said...

I REALLY DIG THOSE GREAT ODDS!

3/26/2013 02:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure that most of those being killed have killed someone.

3/26/2013 02:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Several years ago around the year 2000 they changed the requirements to take the"dicks" test to 1 year on the job. Lets see 6 months academy, 10 weeks FTO and a full 3 months and 2 weeks and your year is up! That first "dicks" test list was a Who's who of boss's kids and clouted ones and everybody knew this, back then their was NO second city or Internet media to voice your opinion and if you complained loud enough and long enough you ended working with the dogs of the watch and on the shitest car! I personally know several slugs and I use the term loosely who made "dick" who can't investigate and deduct who's buried in Lincoln's tomb. They were fresh out of college and great test takers but knew NOTHING about the streets or being the Police.

They should bring back the 5 year minimum to take the test and should be given by an outside source and your score was given to you as you left the test siite like they did back in the early 80's, your work history and arrest record counted for 50%. At least back than you knew how to make a felony arrest and gather evidence to solve the crime!

Retired Guy

3/26/2013 02:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago has some of the best and most experienced Detectives in the country! A perfect example is the Koschman / vanencko murder case, clouted cover up and pay offs.

3/26/2013 02:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how did the pension town hall meeting go in Mt. Greenwood lastnight?

3/26/2013 02:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put another way, "Want to kill someone? Do it in Chicago! You have a 74% chance of getting away with it"

3/26/2013 02:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The prosecution rate is even lower

3/26/2013 02:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wonder how many of the shooters became victims later on?

3/26/2013 02:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remove the CCX's, which include many examples of creative fiction writing , and the rate is around 20%!!!

3/26/2013 04:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gary, thank you for doing a great job. Tom SKILLING.

3/26/2013 05:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put ALL the department's resources (whatever is left after letting the ranks dwindle to a dangerous level)into the Districts where the gangbangers are killing each other.

Strip the other Districts of any semblance of a usable force.

Are the bad Districts any safer? NO!

Are the good Districts less safe? HELL YES!

Is this a good plan? NO

Is it politics? HELL YES!

Stop lying to us. Police Offices really don't like to be lied to.

3/26/2013 05:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gang bangers killing gang bangers

Dope dealers killing dope dealers

Why waste taxpayer money to solve these murders?? Especially with the "no snitch " rule. Its pointless.



I say let them keep killing each other. Use police resources elsewhere.

3/26/2013 05:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need more merit hacks and lifelong suburbanites to take care of business in the detective unit.

3/26/2013 05:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's embarrassing. I foresee a top to bottom cleaning in the D unit. It's sorely needed. Especially in middle management.

3/26/2013 06:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One of the problems is supervisors stuck in the "back of the day we did it this way" attitude. Things change so rapidly that what one did just a few years ago is irrelevant today. Time to clean house.

3/26/2013 06:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From a troll: I have news for the administrators of CPD and City Hall. One of the reasons you have a blood bath in the streets is quite simply; you can kill someone in Chicago and you are more likely
(75%) to get away with it than not. In other words, there is a breakdown in law enforcement, punishment and other problems killers face in other cities that are NO longer a problem for them in Chicago. And that my friends should scare all the incompetent people who are in charge of the public trust in Chicago. So when all the so called community leaders are complaining that the problem is too many guns on the street, they deflect the true problem. There is no punishment in Chicago for homicidal or other criminal actions by the criminal element.

3/26/2013 06:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When you lack the basics like working printers, evidence bags, paper, and on and on, it makes getting things done 10 times harder.

Not to mention a ridiculous number of assignments and the time we have to waste running around like maniacs pre-compstat.

But the love affair between Denis Walsh and McBourbon continues.

3/26/2013 07:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT--

Is anyone else appalled that Denis Walsh wasn't fired for his antics in Michigan?

This was an unprovoked sexual attack, but since the Walsh family got to the victim (read the article), Denis gets 30 and then gets promoted????

This is all on video, but it's not "conduct unbecoming" enough for a firing?

Please! There's your two-tier systems of punishment on this job......again. Relative on Daley's body guard detail?

McFellowDrinker laps up Denis like a love-sick puppy at compstat. Wonder if since this news came out he'll distance himself a bit?

SCC, I'm surprised you didn't have a post about yesterday's article.



3/26/2013 07:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hats off to the wizards in the state legislature who felt that the threat of the death penalty was no longer a necessary deterrant to crime!

3/26/2013 07:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe if the Det Div didn't have to spend a week's worth of time putting together comstat numbers and files they would have the time to do a proper investigation.

3/26/2013 07:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wanna get away with murder? Commit one in Area North. It's the running file storage system that loses cases there, not incompetence or duplicity.

3/26/2013 07:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well that what happens when the top ranked 400 det's are either merit hacks or secret study group subject matter experts. Daddy can't get you the answers for that homicide, Jimmy...

3/26/2013 07:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But.... But..... You got all those crime cameras out there protecting the people.

3/26/2013 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daily, while working a blue&white, most guys just want to hang a white flag out the window. We have lost the war and we are never coming back. The once great CPD has been decimated and these are sad days indeed.

3/26/2013 08:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When is the next Sgt s class starting?

3/26/2013 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

McFailure will solve it!!!

3/26/2013 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This one didn't get away; male hispanic stabbed in the chest last nite on the red line platform downtown. Black male offender caught after CTA employees alert police that he was running west on chicago ave with knife in hand. And the best quote of the nite, "squad, we don't need to protect the crime scene. We got the guy that did it". Huh?

3/26/2013 09:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Major Detective Division Problem:

Not Enough Detectives (NO QUANTITY)

"Merit" Detectives (NO QUALITY)

3/26/2013 09:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pension

80 percent pensions after 20 years of service for elected City officials.

Shared sacrifice? Leading by example? What reforms are being proposed for that group.

3/26/2013 09:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a former member of 640, I can assure the good citizens of this:

Victims NEVER cooperate

Witnesses NEVER cooperate

Family members of murder "victim" NEVER cooperate

I, as a member of CPD have ZERO responsibility for this, and will never accept blame.

The ghetto has a twisted core of values that places credibility on the amount of violence one commits, as well as the ability for everyone to not copperate with the police.

3/26/2013 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And yet he's still here acting like an IDIOT BOSS...........

3/26/2013 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"That's how we did it in New York" isn't working so well in Chicago.


Maybe now the public will see that "doing more with much less" isn't working

3/26/2013 11:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

terrible , must be the merit detectives and merit bosses assigned to detective division

3/26/2013 11:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How are the snitch boxes working out, McStreetLights?

3/26/2013 11:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahmmie and McFailure will just spin and spin this to be meaningless.

3/26/2013 12:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did the mag interview Chalkie ?

3/26/2013 12:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Several years ago around the year 2000 they changed the requirements to take the"dicks" test to 1 year on the job. Lets see 6 months academy, 10 weeks FTO and a full 3 months and 2 weeks and your year is up! That first "dicks" test list was a Who's who of boss's kids and clouted ones and everybody knew this, back then their was NO second city or Internet media to voice your opinion and if you complained loud enough and long enough you ended working with the dogs of the watch and on the shitest car! I personally know several slugs and I use the term loosely who made "dick" who can't investigate and deduct who's buried in Lincoln's tomb. They were fresh out of college and great test takers but knew NOTHING about the streets or being the Police

You have said it all, test takers, no experience, then more CMO's than street detectives

3/26/2013 12:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom Skilling would make the BEST Supt that CPD ever had! Keep up the good work Tommy. And he is the best meteorologist in Chicago. Accurate, informative and just seems like an all around nice guy. We all read Tom's article in Tribune before roll call to see how busy we'll be during the tour of duty. CPD loves ya Tommy.

3/26/2013 12:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


They should bring back the 5 year minimum to take the test and should be given by an outside source and your score was given to you as you left the test siite like they did back in the early 80's, your work history and arrest record counted for 50%. At least back than you knew how to make a felony arrest and gather evidence to solve the crime!

Retired Guy

3/26/2013 02:15:00 AM


Should be mandatory to work patrol in a District for the first five years before going to any Unit or Team. Minimum 10 years to work inside also. For any promotion, five years on to be eligible to take Detective test, 10 years for Sergeant, 15 years for Lieutenant.

3/26/2013 12:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, you can blame the following reasons why the clear up rate is so low: not enough detectives, detective supervisors who are not effective and have no investigative experience, resistence from prosecutors to approve charges, putting detectives in unfamiliar areas, . But, no one is talking about the fact that there are some detectives who could not find mickey mouse at disney world or who just do virtually nothing and no one in the department can do a damn thing about it. They are protected by the union, by politics, by cronyism and by a system that has not taken a stance on people who just do not want to do any work.Tell me the last time a detective was demoted for inefficiency ? You just answered by question.

3/26/2013 01:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put most detectives in the district stations working for the DC. Then the drive time to crime scenes and the distance for witnesses to travel will be minimal. Stop the bitching and go do some work.

3/26/2013 01:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The town hall meeting was attended by 200 cfd and cpd,no real answers only vague referances to gambling revenue from a proposed casino. Changes need to be made,but at our expense. We've done what was asked of us. It's the pols who have let us down. BOHICA

ps. but they are talking



3/26/2013 01:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how did the pension town hall meeting go in Mt. Greenwood lastnight?

Well attended, slightly over three hundred people. Only about ten people spoke. Some FOP board members were there. Hopefully they will see that we are united.

3/26/2013 01:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would say that the clearance rate on solving murders with actual legit victims jumps to 95%.

Other than the ot who gives a shit about some gang banger getting killed?

As a brand new detective several years ago an old timer told me that these ghetto murders are just practice for the real ones. He was right.

3/26/2013 01:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Chicago has some of the best and most experienced Detectives in the country! A perfect example is the Koschman / vanencko murder case, clouted cover up and pay offs.

3/26/2013 02:26:00 AM

---

The Koschman case was not prosecuted and that was what would have happened to any other case that happened in 11, 15, 007 .. or anywhere else. Period. If you were a detective you'd know that. ANd I don't mean that as a shot. I mean it in a sense that you are ignorant. ANd that's not your fault. But spouting your ignorance IS your fault. SO STFU.

Shit was later thrown away ya - that bullshit.

3/26/2013 01:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Put every body on foot patrol immediately!"
"And have Mass transit arrest everybody for turnstyle jumping!" "That will lower the crime rate in Chicago"
G. McCarthy supt. CPD

Please tell me you have more...Please tell me that people arent dying while you re-arrange the deck chairs on the HMS Titanic. I hear the band playing on...

3/26/2013 01:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Wonder how many of the shooters became victims later on?

3/26/2013 02:55:00 AM


Today's victim is tomorrow's offender and vice-versa.

If today's victim is dead, he was yesterday's offender.

3/26/2013 02:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Put another way, "Want to kill someone? Do it in Chicago! You have a 74% chance of getting away with it"

3/26/2013 02:52:00 AM


More than that. Understand that they phony some of the homicides onto death investigations and likely inflate the clearance rate on legit homicides.

Likely 80% chance of getting away with a homicide. Just don't do it in A3, go to 011 or 007 or 003 or 005.

3/26/2013 02:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Fate's Fickle Fucking Finger said...

Anonymous said...

"The prosecution rate is even lower."

3/26/2013 02:52:00 AM

Whoooooooo!

Chica Anita is dealing with a little inopportune "blow-through" and can't comment until she's made herself "decent."

Don't look HERE!
Look over by THERE!
*Squeaky-Squooky-Squeak!*

Have yet another freshly twisted balloon animal of distraction...
>Pop! Ay, watdafok?<

The folks and peoples down at Chicago Magazine have probably taken the phones off the hook and turned off the lap-tops because Rahm and his minions are hate calling and clogging the in box with nasty-grams.

*WHIIZZZ! Sput-Sput! Sparkle-Flicker-Flash-POOF! EEE-YAAAHHH!*

The sound of a spinning tutu catching a little narrow shitty-ass on fire... Better than any 4th of July.

The funny thing is what ISN'T being said... These whip-smarter than everybody else m/fers runnin' this shit-show?

Are. Scared. Out. Of their fucking. Minds.

Why?

That bland and flavorless Policing they've been getting for several years now?

EVERYBODY! Is noticing now...

CPD, however imperfect it is/was/will be; used to give the public the Policing equivalent of a loaded jumbo hotdog, "dragged through the garden."

The people of Chicago LOVED IT!

Of course there were always naysayers who tsk-tsked, wagged their fingers disapprovingly and angrily nibbled their celery in a corner while the rest of Chicago enjoyed, stayed out of the way and let the Police take care of business. (Well for the most part, and that's not so say things were EVER perfect)

Well... Time went by and things changed...

3/26/2013 02:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Major Blockrounder said...

Legit Testing Equals Legit Detectives.

Five Detective Areas Equals Better, More Efficient Working Conditions.

Like The Rest Of The Police Dept, Short Staffing Equals Less Output.

Knowledgeable Bosses Equal Great Leaders That Get Things Done.

Politically Pushed Up the Ladder Bosses Equal Bosses That Are Killing Time Until Their Next Undeserved Promotion.

Less Manpower Citywide Equals Less Money The City Pays In Salaries And Pension Contributions.

Less Money Going Into The Pension Fund Equals More Leverage For Rahm To Cut Pension Benefits.

Less Money Spent By Rahm On Police Seen By Administration As A Win.

F--- The Murders.

The Mayor Could Give Two S---s About Murders.

3/26/2013 02:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: See where momma and auuntee of the ugly dumb fool, DeMarquise or whatever they named the turd, be arrested in connection with their honor student boy killing the 1 yr old white baby and shooting the infant's mother in GA. Auuntee be sayin Demardumbfuck, or whatever his name be, was at her crib eating breakfast at time of the MURDER. Yall know De Marfool, or whatever they named this ugly down low bitch, be needing a healthy breakfast before goin out to sling dope and robbin and killin a 1 yr old. He b jus like Trayvon. Momma cued in on racist card followed by auuntee. Yet to hear from momma of 15 yr old fool also charged but sure it will be to Que racism in three, two and one.................

3/26/2013 02:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will someone have the sense to send this idiot packing back to New jersey or wherever he crawled out of.Taking away DET.Areas , putting Recruits on foot patrol in high crime areas, statistics that are nothing but lies, a mayor who doesn't know shit about being a mayor and to top it off 50 stooges who care only about how much they can steal and get away w/it.This city is gone, unless "WE THE PEOPLE"do something about it.Oh by the way thanks LITTLE richie for screwing it all up! Conceal Carry is a start,using it will make a difference according to real statistics.

3/26/2013 02:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wait until the Man who while defending his own life shot the THUG Trayon-as play rev jessie call him. After he is acquitted these fucks will riot across the country. After all time for fresh Nikes, HD TVS, computers etc. Can hear ole boy now sayin he b hopin dude be innocent.

3/26/2013 02:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sgts. promotions on friday.

3/26/2013 02:32:00 PM  
Blogger john said...

The police department goes from thoughts of " station" dicks a few years ago to now having them drive across the city to get anything done. Whatever is being saved in closing those areas is being spent in gas, overtime and statistics that make Detroit look good. What a shame ; but it is a politically driven department and politics will trump everything.


old retired guy

3/26/2013 03:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Impose real supervision on the D-Unit and maybe we will see some results.

3/26/2013 03:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a detective for over twenty years I can assure you the problem stems from two things:
#1. Lack of manpower in the D unit. Chicago has a crazy animal (thugs) running around the streets and when they produce the amount of crime and violence as they Consistantly do- the D unit needs more dicks. Btw.,, the idiot (sup & Byrne) were fools to allocate so many dets to RBT-district assignments. They're a complete waste of manpower. Also, the recent class of dets isn't helping. To operate correctly we probably need another 350-400 detectives.

#2. Refer to #1

3/26/2013 03:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure that most of those being killed have killed someone.

3/26/2013 02:04:00 AM



i do the best that i can, working with what i've got.







Chalkie

3/26/2013 03:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Byrne says that publicly....but privately he rolls his eyes and laughs at McIdiot and his "strategies."

Wonder why this clearance rate has never been brought up at compstat?

Watch for Byrne to be dumped and Denis Walsh made chief of det's.

Don't believe me? Watch and wait.

3/26/2013 03:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Vanecko Simple Battery case was closed/cleared,
right? Or was it just the 'missing case file' case?

3/26/2013 03:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It takes 10 minutes or more for a computer to boot up, as well as for name check results to come back. It takes 20 minutes to print out a case report--because the first 3 printers you send it to aren't working, and the lone one that is, is being used by 20-30 people. Always out of ink or paper. Usually no paper to be found.

Fax machines? None work.

Microsoft Office is 2003 version. Converters on some machines, not all. Scanners work sometimes.

To do a color photo array, you have to go drive to the area to print it, then back to your district. 20-30 minutes drive each way. More like 45-60 min. in rush hour.

Fillers for lineups have to be shipped from districts across the city....while you wait....and wait....and wait....

Driving to pick up and drop off victims easily 40-60 minutes each way in rush hour....only to get them to the district to wait.....and wait....and wait....

Wait time for ET's anywhere from 6+ hours. ET's for burglary scenes 30+ hours, that is, if one is even ordered.

Latent print hits coming back 4-6 years after you submit them.

And the absolutely worst thing of all, is the D-Unit is filled with sgt's who've never been detectives--or even on the street for God's sake--crap, some came straight from CAPS or neighborhood relations.

Sgt's wasting time preparing for compstat to the point you can't even talk to them for 2 weeks beforehand.

Processing rooms fill up fast, so you have nowhere to put offenders you bring in--because there are too many det's crammed into too little space!

Braintrusts who put a ton of det's on days, means det's on afternoons are regularly sent out to other districts to handle process jobs.

Between handling process jobs a couple of days, or sometimes every day of the week, then court on other days making for 18 hour+ days sometimes.

On the property side, det's in busy districts getting between 20-30 new cases every week. It doesn't help they hide det's inside who show up as being assigned to, and working in districts, yet all they do is answer phones and play house mouse.

No time left to type up cases or put together felony files.....and oh yeah, no file cabinets allowed to keep your cases safe or organized because Dean doesn't like how they look. Andrews is easily one of the biggest jagoffs on this job. If it wasn't for him hanging onto his mama's skirt, he'd be sweeping floors somewhere.

3/26/2013 04:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“Those stats suggest a crisis,” says Arthur Lurigio, a criminologist at Loyola University Chicago."

...and the fact that you haven't been able to use half of the city since about 1964 is another lengthening shadow...

3/26/2013 04:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

there's no question....McGruff promotes, assigns, and surrounds himself with no one but the best and brightest, people of the highest professional integrity and personal character....eh?

3/26/2013 04:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"30 to 45-minute rides in traffic in the summer to homicide scenes..."

3/26/2013 12:34:00 AM

So? Chill. You get to hear free -- albeit distorted -- musica wafting from the "festivals" in the parks.

"FEELIN' HOT! HOT! HOT!

HOT! HOT! HOT!"

Why is it that every stabbing at a yard party, "young men's tempers flare and poverty and violencia spills into street," etc., has that same song going?

Q. How can a group be "marginalized and disenfranchised" when there is no one but them for five miles around and they hold every elected and appointed office in the area?

Don't ask.

In other news -- Ari Emanuel already selling $200 Lollapalooza passes...

3/26/2013 04:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT If you think our pension has a problem, read this. It is truely unbelieveable.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/26/alameda-county-administrator-to-get-423644-year-after-retirement/

3/26/2013 04:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Black male offender caught after CTA employees alert police that he was running west on chicago ave with knife in hand."

3/26/2013 09:18:00 AM


Did he --

A. Drop the 39 cents he got

B. Never got anything in the first place

Keep makin sense like this and soon we will not need police at all.

3/26/2013 04:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago magazine from my experience is a left wing north side piece of garbage,any cop that they get to interview init usually a wired never worked the street laugh, hair gel look at me sort of indiviual.this mag is one step up from The Reader and the other one Irish America,wise up...

3/26/2013 05:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Watch for Byrne to be dumped and Denis Walsh made chief of det's.



Do you mean THIS Denis Walsh?


http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/4617866-452/cop-had-brush-with-trouble.html

and

http://chicago.cityandpress.com/node/6045670

3/26/2013 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Out of 90 districts Chicago comes in at number 90, the bottom of the barrel.



Wow. That's a switch; Chicago at the bottom!

3/26/2013 05:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey why not pin open murders on guys that get killed?

3/26/2013 05:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This one didn't get away; male hispanic stabbed in the chest last nite on the red line platform downtown. Black male offender caught after CTA employees alert police that he was running west on chicago ave with knife in hand. And the best quote of the nite, "squad, we don't need to protect the crime scene. We got the guy that did it". Huh?

#########################

So, with all those camera's it's a slam-dunk the stabber goes to jail for a long time & Chicago taxpayers don't get milked financing the assailants legal representation, right?

Something tells me yea, on another planet, not in Chicago.

3/26/2013 05:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"One of the problems is supervisors stuck in the "back of the day we did it this way" attitude. Things change so rapidly that what one did just a few years ago is irrelevant today. Time to clean house."

3/26/2013 06:17:00 AM

Spoken like a true hair gel. Policing isn't like a computer program where a newer version is usually better. Years ago the police hands were not tied as badly as they are now, and manpower and morale were much higher. The liberals changed all that by calling for reduced manpower, trying to force the police to "respect" the animals, and letting them out of prison much too soon "to give them another chance since they were trying to turn their life around". Give me old school policing any day. Policing 2.0 just ain't working kid.

3/26/2013 05:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THIS Denis Walsh:

Cop who found Koschman files assaulted woman in Michigan
Chicago S-T
Monday, 25 March 2013 (2 days ago)

Chicago police Lt. Denis P. Walsh — who reported finding documents that had been removed from police files in David Koschman’s case — was in jeopardy of losing his job nearly nine years ago after being charged with a sex crime in Michigan.
Read more at http://www.onenewspage.com/n/US/74vr1va2c/Cop-who-found-Koschman-files-assaulted-woman-in.htm#e8EaCmPD7ZVT2Tc4.99

http://www.onenewspage.us/n/US/74vr1va2c/Cop-who-found-Koschman-files-assaulted-woman-in.htm


or


http://www.suntimes.com/news/18850942-418/cop-who-found-koschman-files-assaulted-woman-in-michigan.html

3/26/2013 05:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

d unit supervisors and detectectives are not required to swipe in and out because supervisors/unit co's are afraid to enforce the rules
what a joke get a civilian boss in d unit to straighten it out
no swipe , no pay

3/26/2013 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Superintendent Phil Cline said that he judged Lt. Walsh on his entire career when he decided to retain him.

I would have kept him too. Read what else pops up when you goggle his name.

Hero Cop Honored By Emerald Society
as the 1997 Police Officer of the Year

Denis Walsh and Three Other Officers Nail a Murderer

Taking back the streets from an army of dope pushers, rapists, gangbangers, and armed-to-the-teeth gunmen means that from time to time a bad man is going to die.


On a steamy afternoon in August of 1996, Archie Meyers pumped 13 shots into his estranged girlfriend in front of 2,000 people enjoying a street festival in Douglas Park on the West Side.

Violence is endemic in these gang-ravaged neighborhoods. The sound of sporadic gunfire is accepted with weary resignation by residents who grope for answers - and common ground with the church, community leaders, and the police - to break the stranglehold of crime and drugs.

Amid the wreckage of the inner cities sometimes there are victories both great and small.
Archie Meyers paid for his crime - big time. Denis Walsh, a highly decorated Chicago Police Detective from Area 4 Violent Crimes, assisted by Sergeant Fernando Garcia and Officer Danny Vargas from the 10th District and Officer Michael Hammond from Eleven, cornered the gunman inside a home on Spalding Avenue after he took eight family members hostage in a futile attempt to shake off the Chicago Police officers who had chased him through the streets of this West Side neighborhood.


After failing to hijack a passing automobile, Meyers grabbed an eight-year-old girl at gun point outside the residence on Spalding, then forced his way inside the building before Walsh and his fellow officers arrived on the scene.


"Mike Hammond and I kicked in the door of the house," Walsh remembers. "We found eight family members lying on the floor. Meyers fired two shots at us, and then retreated into the back bedroom."

The four officers cornered Meyers in what amounted to a game of kill or be killed. In this instance, 32 police bullets tore through Meyers - ending a wasted life.
This was the first time, but not the last time Detective Walsh has been involved in a shooting incident. He is not afraid of the inherent danger of working a crime ridden district where Walsh and fellow members of the Violent Crimes unit investigated 210 homicides last year. "I prefer to work in places like that. I like the action," he said.


Detective Walsh, a Northwest Sider who graduated from Lane Tech High School, has received four Department Commendations, a Life Saving Award, and a Department Commendation from the Minneapolis, Minnesota P.D., since coming on the job June 16, 1986. He added another trophy to his growing list of honors recently, by being named the Emerald Society Police Officer of the Year for 1997 for his part in hunting down Archie Meyers.

3/26/2013 06:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Of course there were always naysayers who tsk-tsked, wagged their fingers disapprovingly and angrily nibbled their celery in a corner while the rest of Chicago enjoyed, stayed out of the way and let the Police take care of business...Time went by and things changed..."

3/26/2013 02:07:00 PM


...and now you can't use half the city.

3/26/2013 06:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is funny. Killers criticized not because they're killers, but because they're "being stereotyped."

http://globalgrind.com/news/middle-finger-how-flipping-bird-turned-black-boys-killers-blog

3/26/2013 07:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least someone Ivan get the job done.
Chalkie

3/26/2013 07:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"Cleared" doesn't even necessarily mean "prosecuted" and certainly doesn't mean anyone's convicted, correct?

3/26/2013 12:12:00 AM

Good point

3/26/2013 07:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Put most detectives in the district stations working for the DC. Then the drive time to crime scenes and the distance for witnesses to travel will be minimal. Stop the bitching and go do some work.

3/26/2013 01:09:00 PM

Really? Dicks working for Pena, West-Givings-Da-Da, Jones, and the rest of the affirmative action merit promotee's who couldn't find their ass with their own hands? You have no clue what the fuck you're talking about.

3/26/2013 07:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When was the last time a detective was demoted for inefficiency ? You just answered by question.

Retard the city has tried, Judge ruled it was a equal to a career service rank, can't be demoted...

Hope you aren't a detective we can't have the clearance rate any lower..

3/26/2013 07:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

40 Lts April 15

3/26/2013 07:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

s anyone else appalled that Denis Walsh wasn't fired for his antics in Michigan?

This was an unprovoked sexual attack, but since the Walsh family got to the victim (read the article), Denis gets 30 and then gets promoted????

This is all on video, but it's not "conduct unbecoming" enough for a firing?

Please! There's your two-tier systems of punishment on this job......again. Relative on Daley's body guard detail?

McFellowDrinker laps up Denis like a love-sick puppy at compstat. Wonder if since this news came out he'll distance himself a bit?

SCC, I'm surprised you didn't have a post about yesterday's article.

Dont forget the immoral Lt Mick Mc Q from 072. IAD caught him parking a marked squad car as school patrol sergeant for two straight months in the garage at home..

Said his poor wife Representative Gilio sister had fatal cancer disease. Big Mick then goes on in the finest tradition of this department and makes Lt, and Youth Commander....And thank you Lord his wife is alive and well. Great leaders for another post....

3/26/2013 08:07:00 PM  
Anonymous 'Ole Retired guy said...

Anyone else notice that the whole world is sort of out of control, since obama took over?

3/26/2013 08:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wanna get away with murder? Commit one in Area North. It's the running file storage system that loses cases there, not incompetence or duplicity.

3/26/2013 07:31:00 AM

Kinda hard to function when you have to keep your case files in the trunk of your personal car because file cabinets aren't allowed in the detective offices. Bizarro world.

3/26/2013 09:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The trust test of "A LEADER" is someone who wouldn't ask you to do something,they wouldn't do themselves. Not one of these imbeciles,would even attempt anything as stupid as this. I hate to say it, but this Is not going to end well.

3/26/2013 09:45:00 PM  
Blogger Paul said...

What... I thought they had a lot of CCTV cameras now in Chicago? And fancy gun shot acoustic to point out where the gun shots come from? And all that 'gun control' to keep guns out of bad guys hands?

So what gives?

Could it be all those 'encounter cards' and layoffs have understaffed the police and at the same time gun laws kept good people from defending themselves?

3/26/2013 09:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The easiest way to close a homicide is just this. Kill someone in front of at least two reliable witnesses (not gangbangers) and use a video camera. Turn yourself in, along with the weapon and your clothing, all with your DNA on it, and don't forget to bring along the video. Then confess fully explaining your motive of just wanting one homicide in Chicago to be cleared. Make sure the witnesses are willing to sit forever waiting on an ASA to give a voluntary statement, as the good citizens they are. Get charged and plea guilty, saving all of the tax payers some court cost money. Then either spend your time in prison, or kill yourself there, saving the tax payers some more money. Oh, and if you do kill yourself, please set aside some burial money cuz we don't want to pay for that either.
Cleared, closed.

3/26/2013 10:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its amazing how some people can talk shit about the Dets. These are the same Tactics guys who write bullshit reports.....sing opera "me me me me me me me....",lie, lie lie oh did I mention lie.....all for a cb#. That's why u are ostracized Matty MC FLY........(George's brother) you will get yours soon...u r a disgrace

3/26/2013 10:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"They are protected by the union, by politics, by cronyism and by a system that has not taken a stance on people who just do not want to do any work.Tell me the last time a detective was demoted for inefficiency ? You just answered by question."

You are 100% correct, and that 's exactly why this blog became so popular!

3/26/2013 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Really? Dicks working for Pena, West-Givings-Da-Da, Jones, and the rest of the affirmative action merit promotee's who couldn't find their ass with their own hands? You have no clue what the fuck you're talking about.

3/26/2013 07:48:00 PM

As a long time A/4 det I'm ashamed to say the Pena and West were both merit det's there and Jones was a merit sgt there.

3/26/2013 11:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Advance to the rear?

3/26/2013 11:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everything is the detectives fault, I call bull shit!

3/26/2013 11:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

gee lets see, witness advisory form, 48 hr rule, ERI, CCSAO's allowing hundreds to walk away when they reject decent cases....... a hands Off dept. in patrol and the Det. division.....
and of course a huge swath of society where life is not worth shit and snitches get stitches

3/27/2013 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sufferin succatash

3/27/2013 01:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back in the day the Detective exam was administered and corrected in yur presence before you left the facility, the clear rate at this time in police hostroy " 1970s " was in the ninety percental... Their was no merit Detectives and you had to be on the job five years before even allowed to take a Detective exam, but that was in the day, as someone stated previously, not many bosses kids were Detectives, thus the system changed.

3/27/2013 07:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago magazine from my experience is a left wing north side piece of garbage,any cop that they get to interview init usually a wired never worked the street laugh, hair gel look at me sort of indiviual.this mag is one step up from The Reader and the other one Irish America,wise up...

3/26/2013 05:06:00 PM

Um, what did they get wrong on this one?

3/27/2013 07:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There have always been incompetent supervisors on this job. But in my over 20 yrs I've never seen such a high concentration of them in one spot: Area North HGS. The reason?
1. Walsh. Drags people to the bottom, keeps them there.
2. Commander who doesn't see it or doesn't care.

3/27/2013 07:53:00 AM  
Blogger Barney Fife said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
As a detective for over twenty years I can assure you the problem stems from two things:
#1. Lack of manpower in the D unit. Chicago has a crazy animal (thugs) running around the streets and when they produce the amount of crime and violence as they Consistantly do- the D unit needs more dicks. Btw.,, the idiot (sup & Byrne) were fools to allocate so many dets to RBT-district assignments. They're a complete waste of manpower. Also, the recent class of dets isn't helping. To operate correctly we probably need another 350-400 detectives.

#2. Refer to #1

3/26/2013 03:18:00 PM


---

Yes. Yes.

NYPD has far more detectives (ratio-wise) than CPD.

like a 6- 1 ratio in NY

12-1 here


Explain that McNumberJuggler

3/27/2013 07:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Put another way, "Want to kill someone? Do it in Chicago! You have a 74% chance of getting away with it"

3/26/2013 02:52:00 AM

Maybe we could use that to bring in tourists!

"Bring your husband/wife to Chicago if you want to kill them!" "Do it in Chicago!"

3/27/2013 08:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'Ole Retired guy said...
Anyone else notice that the whole world is sort of out of control, since obama took over?

3/26/2013 08:43:00 PM

Started waayyy before him.

How about Bush's No Child Left Behind and the Banking de-regulation?

How about Clinton's NAFTA and assault weapons ban?

How about the House and the Senate letting these tyrants getting away with this stuff?

That being said, Obama is the biggest POS ever installed in the white House.

3/27/2013 08:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you mean THIS Denis Walsh?


http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/4617866-452/cop-had-brush-with-trouble.html

and

http://chicago.cityandpress.com/node/6045670

3/26/2013 05:12:00 PM

Yes. THAT Denis Walsh. Been thisclose to McBubbles since he got here. Drinking buddies and all.

3/27/2013 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
THIS Denis Walsh:

Cop who found Koschman files assaulted woman in Michigan
Chicago S-T
Monday, 25 March 2013 (2 days ago)

------
Are Denis and Mike Walsh (also a lt. BTW), from the same ilk as WALSH construction that the city uses?

3/27/2013 08:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
d unit supervisors and detectectives are not required to swipe in and out because supervisors/unit co's are afraid to enforce the rules
what a joke get a civilian boss in d unit to straighten it out
no swipe , no pay

3/26/2013 06:17:00 PM

Since when? Nobody is swiping yet. D-unit's been told they WILL be swiping.

3/27/2013 08:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Detective Walsh, a Northwest Sider who graduated from Lane Tech High School, has received four Department Commendations, a Life Saving Award, and a Department Commendation from the Minneapolis, Minnesota P.D., since coming on the job June 16, 1986. He added another trophy to his growing list of honors recently, by being named the Emerald Society Police Officer of the Year for 1997 for his part in hunting down Archie Meyers.

3/26/2013 06:21:00 PM

Thanks for the info Denis!

3/27/2013 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Detective Walsh, a Northwest Sider who graduated from Lane Tech High School, has received four Department Commendations, a Life Saving Award, and a Department Commendation from the Minneapolis, Minnesota P.D., since coming on the job June 16, 1986. He added another trophy to his growing list of honors recently, by being named the Emerald Society Police Officer of the Year for 1997 for his part in hunting down Archie Meyers.

3/26/2013 06:21:00 PM

General Petraeus (sp?) had an exemplary record too.

3/27/2013 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous area1dic said...

I think it has to do with the combination of the city instituting the 48hour rule/duty judge, witnesses leaving and not cooperating, and finally some of the more seasoned dics getting hit with nonsense lawsuits and dinged punitively. The bottom line is we do have many good dics here, but you are only as good as what you have to work with, namely the public.

3/27/2013 08:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Really? Dicks working for Pena, West-Givings-Da-Da, Jones, and the rest of the affirmative action merit promotee's who couldn't find their ass with their own hands? You have no clue what the fuck you're talking about.

3/26/2013 07:48:00 PM
So you are saying that the detective commanders are better in their skills and leadership? ReallY?

3/27/2013 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
When was the last time a detective was demoted for inefficiency ? You just answered by question.

Retard the city has tried, Judge ruled it was a equal to a career service rank, can't be demoted...

Hope you aren't a detective we can't have the clearance rate any lower..

3/26/2013 07:49:00 PM
Retard? Really? You do not know what you talk about. ANY rank can be demoted if the evidence is strong enough and equally applied. The operative word here is equally. Apparently, you have not read the court case you so proudly refer to. For practical purposes the rank of detective is a rank and is protected by union grievance system, same as ET and patrol specialist. Dont be so quick to call people names. you sound like a liberal, or a detective.

3/27/2013 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He added another trophy to his growing list of honors recently, by being named the Emerald Society Police Officer of the Year for 1997 for his part in hunting down Archie Meyers.

3/26/2013 06:21:00 PM

Thank you to whichever of Dennis Walsh's relatives submitted this. His history reads like the clouted "bullet proof" guy that he is. This is all that WAS wrong with the Department back in the day. It has led us to where we are.

Again, thank you.

3/27/2013 09:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Sufferin succatash"

3/27/2013 01:02:00 AM

Hey YOU!

Aunt Granny and her old iron skillet don't appreciate you slanderin' good honest po' folks food!

The "yaller clay" people are offended. :^)

3/27/2013 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

only my opinion:

detectives should not be made based upon who they know, color management, balance of race / gender, or simple longevity in the cpd.

even test scores are not an accurate measure of investigative potential.

the best dicks have always been an assemblage of proven track records where it came to quality arrests, court testifying skills,and a variety of assignments...usually with 10 years of consistancy on the job with the immediate supervisors already aware that this guy or gal is an above average
producer and possesses good writing skills as well.

creativity and problem solving without supervision are also points to note.

self motivated hunters of men need only apply (or women bad guys)

3/27/2013 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any old timers know what clearance rate was when Commander Burge was running Area 2 ?

3/27/2013 01:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cant hold witnesses

Really its a 24 hour rule!?!

Overload on jobs

to many longform reports about nothing

Investigative alerts will be gone soon

States attorneys have tooooo many junior lawyers who want to be judges one day.

Homicide dicks not given computer access to find people.

District computer and office area laughable and the district commander do not care.

BUT THe murder mayor knows this, he could give the dicks one of those nice giant schools and make it an area. The schools are all in the ghetto already close to the slaughter!

3/27/2013 06:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Any old timers know what clearance rate was when Commander Burge was running Area 2 ?

3/27/2013 01:38:00 PM

With the jail time and millions paid in settlements, hope it was exponentially high.

3/27/2013 06:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any old timers know what clearance rate was when Commander Burge was running Area 2 ?

3/27/2013 01:38:00 PM


100 PERCENT.

3/27/2013 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
When was the last time a detective was demoted for inefficiency ? You just answered by question.

Retard the city has tried, Judge ruled it was a equal to a career service rank, can't be demoted...

Hope you aren't a detective we can't have the clearance rate any lower..

3/26/2013 07:49:00 PM
Retard? Really? You do not know what you talk about. ANY rank can be demoted if the evidence is strong enough and equally applied. The operative word here is equally. Apparently, you have not read the court case you so proudly refer to. For practical purposes the rank of detective is a rank and is protected by union grievance system, same as ET and patrol specialist. Dont be so quick to call people names. you sound like a liberal, or a detective.

3/27/2013 09:30:00 AM

I'm not the original poster. You can't demote a Sgt. You can fire him, but you can't demote him.

3/27/2013 07:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"only my opinion:

detectives should not be made based upon who they know, color management, balance of race / gender, or simple longevity in the cpd.

even test scores are not an accurate measure of investigative potential.

the best dicks have always been an assemblage of proven track records where it came to quality arrests, court testifying skills,and a variety of assignments...usually with 10 years of consistancy on the job with the immediate supervisors already aware that this guy or gal is an above average
producer and possesses good writing skills as well.

creativity and problem solving without supervision are also points to note.

self motivated hunters of men need only apply (or women bad guys)"


You're opinion is a good one, in my opinion. What you're describing is a "merit promotion."

CPD has ruined that in favor of "who they know, color management, balance of race / gender"


rb

3/27/2013 07:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put another way, "Want to kill someone? Do it in Chicago! You have a 74% chance of getting away with it"

3/26/2013 02:52:00 AM

Maybe we could use that to bring in tourists!

"Bring your husband/wife to Chicago if you want to kill them!" "Do it in Chicago!"



If only Drew Peterson had allegedly done his thing here.

3/27/2013 07:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everything is the detectives fault, I call bull shit!


I heard it was Bush's fault.

Lots of people blaming him all these years later. Apparently then new guy can't fix it, yet was elected, then re-elected.

That's Bush's fault too, I suppose.

3/27/2013 07:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"They are protected by the union, by politics, by cronyism and by a system that has not taken a stance on people who just do not want to do any work."


With the exception of the union, you just described why we have all the bad bosses, too. That, and they only promote those that they can control, too often.

3/27/2013 07:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Detective Walsh, a Northwest Sider who graduated from Lane Tech High School, has received four Department Commendations, a Life Saving Award, and a Department Commendation from the Minneapolis, Minnesota P.D., since coming on the job June 16, 1986. He added another trophy to his growing list of honors recently, by being named the Emerald Society Police Officer of the Year for 1997 for his part in hunting down Archie Meyers.

3/26/2013 06:21:00 PM

General Petraeus (sp?) had an exemplary record too.

3/27/2013 08:38:00 AM


So did Col. Kurtz until he started employing methods which were considered unsound by some.

3/27/2013 08:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/publicacts/fulltext.asp?Name=093-0517

------------------------------

The above was put into place to stop the "big bad Detectives" from reaching too far(as-if). Barry O. was a sponsor for it (Illinois Public Act 93-0517), for those of you not in the know.
I agree with the other poster too, that punitive damages are another significant factor. I am no merit dick, but I really couldn't give a fuck about some animal killing another animal, dope dealer's infant child or otherwise. You don't want to cooperate? Then enjoy living in the filth you've created.
Virgie Perillo's savage murder got cleared and I sleep well at night knowing that fact.
BTW; Det. E.W. (Ret.) was correct: The 'others' are all simply "practice murders". Reap what you Sow IL. Democrats.

3/27/2013 08:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since when? Nobody is swiping yet. D-unit's been told they WILL be swiping.

3/27/2013 08:36:00 AM

Trust me, it will NEVER happen for detectives. It's a whole different job and it will never work.

3/27/2013 09:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Detective Walsh, a Northwest Sider who graduated from Lane Tech High School, has received four Department Commendations, a Life Saving Award, and a Department Commendation from the Minneapolis, Minnesota P.D., since coming on the job June 16, 1986. He added another trophy to his growing list of honors recently, by being named the Emerald Society Police Officer of the Year for 1997 for his part in hunting down Archie Meyers.
------

Someone is bragging about graduating from high school?

3/27/2013 09:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(Reg. Burge)
"With the jail time and millions paid in settlements, hope it was exponentially high."

3/27/2013 06:58:00 PM

Really, you were there?

So you think there were electrocution machines and people hung out of windows?

Geez, maybe you read comic books too.

Or Maybe, one day, you can get past the defense attorneys and university acedemic hyperbole's.

Slapped around, punched, yeah maybe that happed.

"tortured"? Nah.

3/27/2013 11:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Someone is bragging about graduating from high school?"

Yes, we're working class.

You know, the one's who work really hard to keep the city's streets safe.

The one's who confront those saggy pants kids that your afraid of.

We're the one's who respond to burning buildings and try to get the people out alive.

We also take dead kids out of homes and have to drive them to the morgue.

Sometimes shit goes really bad and we have to drive through the streets, at stupidly high rates of speed, just to help another illiterate cop.

Most of the time we race through the streets to help illiterate people who call for our help.

We may come off as smug or arrogant, but we'll take our shirts off if we're asked.

Aside of what we do, where were you 25 year's ago when this cop got on the job?

I think you owe him a "thank you"
for his service, because I'm pretty well sured that he's done more for society than you have in your lifetime.

Scrath that, I think you owe all the cops a thank you.

3/27/2013 11:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Detective Walsh, a Northwest Sider who graduated from Lane Tech High School, has received four Department Commendations, a Life Saving Award, and a Department Commendation from the Minneapolis, Minnesota P.D., since coming on the job June 16, 1986. He added another trophy to his growing list of honors recently, by being named the Emerald Society Police Officer of the Year for 1997 for his part in hunting down Archie Meyers.
------

Someone is bragging about graduating from high school?


3/27/2013 09:50:00 PM
-
First, check the YEAR on that article. Way back then, it was a very big deal to be a Lane graduate.

3/27/2013 11:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Cant hold witnesses

Really its a 24 hour rule!?!

Overload on jobs

to many longform reports about nothing

Investigative alerts will be gone soon

States attorneys have tooooo many junior lawyers who want to be judges one day.

Homicide dicks not given computer access to find people.

District computer and office area laughable and the district commander do not care.

BUT THe murder mayor knows this, he could give the dicks one of those nice giant schools and make it an area. The schools are all in the ghetto already close to the slaughter!

3/27/2013 06:56:00 PM

No, he'll sell them for a dollar each and turn them into 'cultural centers', or 'theaters'.

3/27/2013 11:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Wanna get away with murder? Commit one in Area North. It's the running file storage system that loses cases there, not incompetence or duplicity.

3/26/2013 07:31:00 AM

The running files and the homicide files are two different things and kept in separate locations. Running files are kept by a civilians and the homicide files are kept by a detective.

3/28/2013 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't usually comment because this is just a bathroom wall, but Dennis Walsh has done his best to protect the police officer. There is no other boss you want at a police shooting.

He expects his detectives to do their jobs and to do them well, and to some rat fucks this is entirely too much to ask. I have worked for both of the Walsh's and have learned a great deal from them.
I don't drink with them or hang out off duty with them, but I am proud to work for them.

3/28/2013 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Really? Dicks working for Pena, West-Givings-Da-Da, Jones, and the rest of the affirmative action merit promotee's who couldn't find their ass with their own hands? You have no clue what the fuck you're talking about.

3/26/2013 07:48:00 PM

As a long time A/4 det I'm ashamed to say the Pena and West were both merit det's there and Jones was a merit sgt there.

3/26/2013 11:16:00 PM


Why are YOU ashamed? YOU didnt make her! She's Merit all the way! Det, Sgt, Lt and Cdr...

3/28/2013 01:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I don't usually comment because this is just a bathroom wall, but Dennis Walsh has done his best to protect the police officer. There is no other boss you want at a police shooting.

He expects his detectives to do their jobs and to do them well, and to some rat fucks this is entirely too much to ask. I have worked for both of the Walsh's and have learned a great deal from them.
I don't drink with them or hang out off duty with them, but I am proud to work for them.

3/28/2013 01:00:00 AM

Nice try Mrs. Walsh!

3/28/2013 07:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We really don't have that many murders in Chicago. We have a lot of killings. A murder occurs when a legitimate citizen's life is taken. A killing is when one shithead takes out another for a stupid reason.

3/28/2013 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I don't usually comment because this is just a bathroom wall, but Dennis Walsh has done his best to protect the police officer. There is no other boss you want at a police shooting.

He expects his detectives to do their jobs and to do them well, and to some rat fucks this is entirely too much to ask. I have worked for both of the Walsh's and have learned a great deal from them.
I don't drink with them or hang out off duty with them, but I am proud to work for them.

3/28/2013 01:00:00 AM

Stick your shamrock in your ass. Their antics would have gotten anyone else fired, goof.

3/28/2013 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"Someone is bragging about graduating from high school?"

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It's more difficult to graduate from Lane Tech than Lewis,Adler,Calumet, or any of those other make-believe colleges that SO many depend on for promotional purposes.

I can't count how many times I've heard the braggarts proclaim - "I have 2 Masters degrees!". All from bullshit schools.

3/28/2013 08:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem with the D unit is that they don't make dic's who were actually working coppers. With the merit system now a position in the D unit is a spot for a life time w/o any chance of getting dumped. Like hitting the little lotto. I have seen so many dic's who were never the police it's laughable when a dic shows up and you remember when they were a total dog ass PO, staying down on jobs, avoiding paper, never locking anyone up and always fucking up whe they actually had to make an arrest. Now they show up in shirt and tie and continue to do nothing... Is it really any wonder why the D unit is such a failure???

3/28/2013 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Detective Walsh, a Northwest Sider who graduated from Lane Tech High School, has received four Department Commendations, a Life Saving Award, and a Department Commendation from the Minneapolis, Minnesota P.D., since coming on the job June 16, 1986. He added another trophy to his growing list of honors recently, by being named the Emerald Society Police Officer of the Year for 1997 for his part in hunting down Archie Meyers.
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Someone is bragging about graduating from high school?


3/27/2013 09:50:00 PM
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First, check the YEAR on that article. Way back then, it was a very big deal to be a Lane graduate.
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Oh, I am sorry. I did not realize that it was a PHD equivalent.

3/28/2013 01:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


3/28/2013 01:38:00 AM

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I don't usually comment because this is just a bathroom wall, but Dennis Walsh has done his best to protect the police officer. There is no other boss you want at a police shooting.

He expects his detectives to do their jobs and to do them well, and to some rat fucks this is entirely too much to ask. I have worked for both of the Walsh's and have learned a great deal from them.
I don't drink with them or hang out off duty with them, but I am proud to work for them.

3/28/2013 01:00:00 AM

Nice try Mrs. Walsh!


He s a good man, He does the right thing If you doubt that then your a non working detective

3/28/2013 09:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember when Denis got grabbed in Michigan. He happen to be with several CPD (one of which is a gold star now) on a golf trip. The incident was all hush hush until it hit the news at which time Denis' old partners went on one of the most aggressive shake downs I have ever experienced at work. Roll Call was held at Area 4 and these two suckholes strong armed everyone for $100 a person. The logic presented was Denis may get fired and he needs $$$ for an attorney.
Side note: we all gave. Not because anyone particularly likes that guy but it's something we always did in Area 4. What pissed everyone off was two fold:
1st. The fucker never said thank you to anyone
2nd he never needed to spend the $$$ on the "big attorney fees" and while it was kind of unreasonable to give it all back, he could have taken everyone out to IRA's for some drinks or maybe bought pizzas.
Whatever, the guy is a "one way" typical bosses kid stroke. I'm sure he'll make a fine commander.

3/28/2013 10:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I don't usually comment because this is just a bathroom wall"


Congratulations. Now you're no better than the rest of us.

Welcome!

3/29/2013 01:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The problem with the D unit is that they don't make dic's who were actually working coppers. With the merit system now a position in the D unit is a spot for a life time w/o any chance of getting dumped. Like hitting the little lotto. I have seen so many dic's who were never the police it's laughable when a dic shows up and you remember when they were a total dog ass PO, staying down on jobs, avoiding paper, never locking anyone up and always fucking up whe they actually had to make an arrest. Now they show up in shirt and tie and continue to do nothing... Is it really any wonder why the D unit is such a failure???

3/28/2013 10:16:00 AM
Pass the test or get some clout, I made it on merit so fuck you!

3/29/2013 02:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We really don't have that many murders in Chicago. We have a lot of killings. A murder occurs when a legitimate citizen's life is taken. A killing is when one shithead takes out another for a stupid reason.

3/28/2013 07:58:00 AM




stupid is the lubricant that keeps my gears humming.






Chalkie

3/29/2013 09:35:00 AM  

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