They're Making.....Farmers?
Um.....isn't this what they're doing in Detroit as they shrink the corporate boundaries as the city dies? Maybe Rahm is trying to get ahead of the Detroit-curve?
- The city of Chicago wants to turn vacant lots into urban farms.
Mayor Rahm Emanuel announced Friday the city will launch Farmers for Chicago over the next three years, with help from private donors.
The new program will make up to five acres of city-owned lots available for urban farming.
Chicago is partnering with the local urban agriculture organization Growing Power.
Local nonprofit organizations also will train residents - many with limited work history - in urban farming and skills. The food from the farms will be distributed to up to 20 farmer's markets, corner stores, restaurants and grocery chains.
People with a "limited work history" aren't going to make very good farmers. Farming is a difficult and involved job, usually involving early hours, back-breaking labor and endless days. There's usually machinery involved and complicated directions for mixing chemicals, planting crops, applying pesticides, many of which are heavily regulated substances.
What's that? Not real farming? Gardeners? Part-time gardeners?
How much is this costing taxpayers? Or is this some sort of return to "plantation politics?"
What's that? Not real farming? Gardeners? Part-time gardeners?
How much is this costing taxpayers? Or is this some sort of return to "plantation politics?"
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
86 Comments:
I give it a week before someone tries to grow weed.
Wait til they start grown weed in these lots.
It doesn't work in beat 2211. 90% of crime is committed by FFA actin da fool... Latest on clearmap is agg batt w/gun at the school.
at least pot prices will drop.
The RATS will eat evrything.
You see what's happening in Cyprus tonight?
Their president just announced as part of their EU bank bailout deal that everyone's bank account will be taxed.
Those with over 100,000 euro balances the government will just remove 9.9% of the persons savings and those under that amount will have 6.75% taken.
They call it a tax. What would you call it?
Not too much different than what they want to do to the public pensions here only our leaders are trying to obfuscate the theft by playing with the COLA's and spreading it out over a period of time.
It's a theft nonetheless.
Imagine the Cyprus troops in Afghan and anyone with direct deposit. BAM ten percent of you money GONE over the weekend. Can't do a damn thing about it as the banks are closed until Tues because Mon. is a holiday there. The ATM's were getting system down messages while the government collection process is going down. So yeah, nice try.
The president of Cyprus put out the usual fear announcement informing the citizens THAT IT'S NECESSARY because of this and that. It comes off sounding like Obama's sequester we're all going to die speech.
So can you say bank run? There's 1.1 mil. people in Cyprus and I would also imagine that people in Greece, Italy, Russia, moved money to Cyprus as a sage heaven. Well, sad day for you guys. You just lost 10 percent of your savings. Wonder if the Russian mob had any cash stashed there?
It could get interesting. We'll soon see. Also it's worth watching because Chicago's $800 mil. bond sale is set for April 4 we hear.
We are talking about demand deposit savings accounts here. Accounts where your principal is supposed to be safe no matter what!
Has the EPA approved of this? Is the soil safe to grow edible plants?...........
what do you get when u combine empty crack baggies, heroin straws, empty 40 oz beer bottles, used condoms, red hot Cheetos bags, and urine soaked dirt?
urban mulch. :)
I was wondering can I grow flaming hot chetto puffs in my garden ?
Rats.
We have one of these 'farms' on a vacant lot I walk past going to the subway.
Didn't used to be, but now there's RATS. LOTS of rats.
How many packs can you hide in a cornfield?
Blarg?
I don't think there are any heavily regulated stuff involved.
Also little fertilizer if any is needed generally and pesticides are rarely needed.
The bigger question is the soil. Thanks to all the old lead paint that use to be used, some of the soil here in Chicago can be fairly toxic.
Also not sure why some one would want to get involved with this as the stuff they plant is not going to them, but to other stores/markets from the sound of it.
Demand is So Strong for Government Program Paying Farmers Not to Plant Crops That Some Were Turned Away
I can see it now. Folks can then apply for government aid NOT TO GROW CROPS.
Citizen Gigi:
Does he really think that whatever is grown won't be stomped on and/or ripped up by evil minded gang kids or just stupid kids. You know, the "honor students". I don't think anything grows in blood filled soil, at least not anything one should eat. This guy really is an ostrich. Ignore the real problem and just plant things? This will solve the problem? I can hardly believe the stuff that comes out of his mouth. Every time he comes up with a new plan I feel like it's a skit on Comedy Central. You just can't make this stuff up.
Please, no more. There's a plot of land across the street from my building that one of the neighborhood "organizations" took over. It looks like something out of "Deliverance!" To all of us in the immediate it's an eye-sore. Chicken wire, a hodge-podge of garden stakes, overgrown plots with rotting vegetables in them, etc. This group has actually got their mitts on a few other vacant pieces of property and fixed them up beautifully, with flowers and lovely greenery. But for some reason, they chose to turn the spot by my house into urban farmland. It's funny how even though this group professes to have a lottery for who gets a plot, them same people every year are out there. And they all own houses with backyards.
Once again, the Chicago way takes over ....
I 's good to grow weed
The rats will have a field day won't they. I can just see it now. Hey, these tomato's taste like piss. The weed is coming in nicely tho.
Another notch down the Maslow pyramid.
A few months ago the great leaders of the Sanctuary City were touting manufacturing jobs. Suckering people to enroll in community college for so called welding jobs. Whelp, Google "layoffs" and look at the number of aerospace layoffs and the sequester hasn't even hit yet.
Give a corporation a $10 mil tax break and they give a mil back and promote it like are they not so generous? Go sell it to the Sweeney cuz I ain't buyin' it.
You what's dead. dead. dead? This cities economy that's what.
Now they're pushing us back to an agrarian society.
I thought that they told us that's what the Taliban and Al Queda wanted to do yeah? They want to push you back to a lifestyle of living in the dark ages. Well look who's talking!
One in four!
One in four people in Chicago is living below poverty. Not my numbers. The US census numbers. World-Class eh?
Food Stamp caseloads up over 9% from last year, World-Class eh?
The city has a median wage that is 10 percent lower than the entire USA media wage, World-Class eh?
Cook County population growth near zip.
Job creation, when you look at the non-farm payrolls they have yet to exceed the levels in the late 20th century, World-Class eh?
World-Class Bullshit is what it is.
Well my internet based calculations puts that at SEVENTY standard city lots of 25 x 125 feet.
Woohoo! There are that many vacant lots on a few blocks in Lawndale or Englewood.
Just another PR handjob for Rahmbo.
Really ! You will need a concrete air hammer to break that soil up. The years of glass, beer cans, chicken wing bones, Newports have made the ground into a stell slab.
They will have to nuke that soil up, if that is what it is now called. Who the hell would comsume anything grown from this waste land soil ? The rats even avoid these worthless lots of vacant property.
I am sure Jewels will buy the purple tomato' and dark blue corn. Yiu thinks the birds will return to the "Wood" for a taste of corn ? Think not, they avoid the area because there is no peace and quiet to hang in the few trees left after sunset.
I "plant" everyday.......
doesn't that imply work?
the hardest work Tiny has ever seen one of his "community activists" do to walk out to the mail box to get the check and a link card.
then off to trade the card for cash trade cash for 40 oz'ers and a "jab" of rocks besides being a farmer you have to get up early 7 days a week.
fat chance of that.
Who the hell would eat anything out of those disease infested grounds ? Used needles, heroin residue and secretions from used condoms, no thanks !
The program consists of bringing in real farmers from the surrounding area to cultivate the crops and the local gentry will hold signs up, at $25 hr, warning the public of men at work.
They had a growing plot on Central Park and Fillmore for 1 year with tractors (donated by sears) which somebody has been stripping for last several years. Last fall they took what was left of the Craftsman garden tractor. This plot went from Central Park to independence along Fillmore next to the RR tracks only lasted 1 summer. Now they have another plot across from water pumping station 3500 block Fillmore with a very expensive 6 ft wooden fence, looks real nice very out of place can't miss it. Your tax dollars at work. Seen them plowing with NEW equipement last fall spreading wood chips and planting! My bet won't last summer piss bums already taking fence for fire wood.
Limited work history?
It will stream line the dope operation. Grow the weed in the vacant lot near the sales corners. Modern ghetto efficiency.
We be fahmuhs bum ba bum ba bum bum bum.
How about making shitcago, crook county, Illinois, business friendly thus drawing jobs that will draw workers that will allow housing to be built once again?
Oh yea, these three governments want nothing to do with educated free-thinking people.
Rahm says to get back to the fields. He needs some more tomatoes.
About the only thing that would motivate those "farmers" would be if you planted cannabis, and even then they would be useless once it got ripe.
Did Rham run this idea by Geiger? Geiger should sue the city and ask for legal fees.
Cease Fire is going to supervise the want to be farmers.These people in this city will suck every nutrient out of the soil.
How much you want to bet they'll be some weed mixed in with those vegetables?
Rahm will have a new supplier for his tomatoes.
Hahaha...even if you found people willing and able...the rats would eat the fruits or veggies of their labor. Dumbass.
Urban farming! Yep ok rahm how long before the savages destroy it? Btw where is this money coming from?just read in today's papers all your long range plans rahm billions worth but yet you cannot fund the police pension fund, hire more coppers in the killing fields, get place new equipment nope,nada, sorry! Rahm your a genie whereis that magic lamp you get the billions from?
They need to focus on those 'urban farmers' who grow their own weed. I'm sure they can provide their subject matter expertise in growing food.
Part time farmers, Right, Whatever they grow will be a success with all the fertilizer that will be contributed from City Hall.
Gardening not very efficient. When you factor in all the time it takes, and the cost of ferilizer, seeds, water, and equipment, the food you get may end up costing 2 or 3 times more than if you just went to the store and bought the food.
"People with a 'limited work history' aren't going to make very good farmers. Farming is a difficult and involved job, usually involving early hours, back-breaking labor and endless days. There's usually machinery involved and complicated directions for mixing chemicals, planting crops, applying pesticides, many of which are heavily regulated substances."
People with a limited work history already are prospering in Chicago. Selling dope is a difficult and involved job, usually involving nearly hours of buck-making labor and endless pays. There's usually monetary incentive for mixing chemicals, planning drops, plying pestilence, to sell their heavily regulated substances.
Sounds like they already have an apprentice program alive and well in Chicago.
They could always grow pretty flowers instead.
Noe, Kees me you fool!!!!
you have heard of midnight basketball...this program will be called midnight farming to meet the lifestyles of the "farmers"!
I heard rat shit makes fantastic fertilizer. Perhaps rahmie could feed his family with the wonderful organic vegetables that these farmers will produce. Just don't leave them in brown paper bags.
Rats and roaches do not like ground with grass cut low, baked by the sun. All this will do is create a place for them to forage for more food and shelter...Watch for their populations to explode between peoples houses..
The lots will soon be littered with broken glass, plastic bags and wrappers. Ghetto dwellers don't know what a trash can is used for, everything is just tossed on the ground.
I just grew some fresh tomatoes.
I did realize that farmers normally start their day around 330pm.
@ 3/17/2013 12:31:00 AM
What?
In 1932, this then became the famous "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today". This phrase is now commonly used to illustrate fiscal irresponsibility.
The phase is used to denigrate the jobless, and people on food stamps.
Open your f**king eyes.
Rahm and the rest of his 50 corporate puppets along with the governor and the state representatives are pulling that exact thing when it comes to our pensions!
Tuesday never comes.
Work 20,30,40 years and when it comes time to collect the money that they are holding for you after all those years, when it's Tuesday, your pension benefits, Tuesday never comes.
They are going to play games with the cost of living increases to ensure that the increases are lower than real inflation -- thereby skimming a few percent here and there to use it as they please.
By taking a few percentage points or fractions there of in the first years of retirement you must remember the effects of compounding interest and how it effects your income after 10,20,30 years.
These COLA game are the mayors and governors road map to our poverty.
Think about it.
The public flip-flopping office holders playing one segment of the population against the other.
We can't repay the money stolen from the pensions we'll have to raise taxes and the taxpayers are tapped out.
Then do the one-eighty and cry to the taxpayers I can't give you protection or educate your kids as we have no money.
Play one against the other while portraying that the politicians are the victims just trying to do their jobs. Playing the man in the middle. Building $55 million dollar parks for elite all the while. Funding million dollar money losing festivals to feed their "World-Class" ego's.
Yeah, Rahm, Quin, Madigan, they'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.
maybe you grow some tomatoes for tiny and leave them on his doorstep
Is there anyplace or web site where I can get some Chalkie shirts?
rahm will pay parents to walk their kids to school in neighborhoods where schools are closed . pay them for abortions , it'll be cheaper in the long run .
take away pension benefits from the
working class , give to the welfare rats .
time for round three knock out by FOP . CTU lead the way after ballerina boy mf'd a female black union leader.
5 acres is not much land to farm on. it would be very hard to make a living with 5 acres of typical Chicago land. even it was decent land for farming.
it would not be real hard to dig out the existing dirt and put in decent soil, but the growing season in Chicago means you would only get one crop in and then only when everyone else's similar crops would be coming in.
the idea has some merit, but urban farming that is successful usually ends up being more complicated than the average non-graduate of the CPS system is going to be able to deal with. it is not as labor intensive as you might think of as opposed to more traditional farming. think greenhouses and hydroponics as opposed to a typical vegetable garden.
to discourage the riff-raff you would probably have to put a 6 foot high chain link fence around the parcels which would not be cheap.
not a cop
About the closest those folks ever get to farm work is rock picking. I picked lots of rocks during family vacations at my uncles' farms in Minnesota. The regular kind.
By the power invested in me I hear-by declare that Washington Blvd be forever known as the Tobacco Road.
(a short video dramatization of Chicago's future)Tobacco Road
Now instead of looking for the dope sack in chip bags, I'll have to start looking for the stash underneath cucumbers and tomatoes
Dumb, dumb,dumb idea! Get your head out of dream land. Get real.
offer lots to nearby owners at a bargain rate. They would know what to do with them and you would get taxes from them. Such a tool. unfucking believable.
The politicians will devise a plan to pay folks $10 an hour to work as scarecrows, kind of like all those CPS folks watching the streets when school lets out.
as pointed out here before
for years chicago used lead based paint and you want to serve that in resturants? lovely sick tourists all around
Yeah I remember a few short months ago the mayor touting manufacturing jobs are coming back, that there was a shortage, and companies "just could not find the people with the right skills to hire"
"There's a skill shortage" we were all told as Rahm enticed the ignorant masses into taking out loans for training at city colleges for things like welding and manufacturing jobs
So guess what.
Take a look at the Jan. employment news
"...Manufacturing employers conducted 357 mass layoff events in January, which resulted in 43,068 initial unemployment claims — a 22 percent increase from 35,211 claims in the previous month..."
http://news.medill.northwestern.edu/chicago/news.aspx?id=216828
And more recently...
Union: Expect more short-term Caterpillar layoffs
WAND-Mar 14, 2013
Peoria, Ill. (AP) -- A union that represents Caterpillar Inc. workers says short-term layoffs at Peoria-area plants will continue. The layoffs started in January and ...
FreightCar America plans to lay off 254 at plant in Danville
The Republic-Mar 5, 2013
DANVILLE, Illinois — FreightCar America Inc. has filed notice with the state of Illinois that it will lay off more than 250 people at its plant in Danville.
Komatsu plans layoffs at Illinois plant
Austin News-Feb 27, 2013
PEORIA, Ill. (AP) — Japanese construction-equipment maker plans to start laying off workers at its plant in Peoria. A statement from the company didn't specify..
Illinois companies warn of 1100 layoffs in coming months
Chicago Tribune-by Samantha Bomkamp-Mar 6, 2013
Thirteen area companies say they may cut more than 1,100 jobs in the near future, according to the state's Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification ...
Oh but we still have health care jobs to look forward to ..heh..
Illinois med students face licensing delays
WREX-TV-Feb 19, 2013
Due to layoffs in the state office that processes license applications for residency programs, hundreds of medical students in Illinois may not be able to start those..
And those school teachers that we are going to link with things...
Southern Ill. school district announces layoffs
KFVS-Feb 22, 2013
CARBONDALE, Ill. (AP) - A southern Illinois school district is laying off one-third of its teachers and half of its non-certified staff because of cuts in state funding.
I like flaming hots
Lots of more insightful comments already, but the idea of some locals growing their own food reminded me of how things have changed.
Nowadays I guess the story of the ants and grasshopper has evolved. The latest I heard is that they gave the grasshopper some land and planted, tended and harvested for him while he played his 'fiddle'.
My version, which I preferred, is that the lazy grasshopper died when winter came and the ants wouldn't let him in.
@3/17/2013 01:16:00 AM
Lead is not usually absorbed by the fruiting parts of the plant- that is the parts we eat. -Univ.of MN extension.
I would be more concerned with thugs and vandals stealing and destroying anything of value. Rats love fresh garbage and they would eat all the unpicked fruits and vegetables, since I'm sure no one is going to work through the hot, humid summer.
As stated, farming is harder than hell and there's nobody in Chicago who's going to work that hard when they can get food stamps and the link, section 8 housing and free cell phones. They'd be the fool unless you could grow weed,coca leaves or poppies.
"Imagine the Cyprus troops in Afghan"
3/17/2013 12:31:00 AM
Huh?
CETA, "Comprehensive Education And Training Act," early 80s?
Take people who were hanging around in front of "L" stations and put them in brown coveralls and give them government checks to hang around in front of "L" stations.
Don't sell these "Urban Farmers" short.
They are experts at picking apples.
I said it before the city is not broke! They just want you to think that it is! So they don't have to pay into pensions or raises to police, fire, school teachers and all other union workers. All the people that keep this shit hole going. Billions of dollars for everything else in this city, when are you so-called reporters going to ask the mayor how come he has money for all these projects but never any money for the workers and ask him that at one of these news conferences and throw him for a loop.
"There's a skill shortage" we were all told as Rahm enticed the ignorant masses into taking out loans for training at city colleges for things like welding and manufacturing jobs..."
3/17/2013 03:40:00 PM
Yes, yes, those welders are destroying society. Everyone should get a job as a clerk with a huge, parasitic law firm that survives by constantly suing the City of Chicago.
No one will need ships or buildings or bridges or machinery or plants or pipelines but everybody is going to need those vital legal briefs, threats, memoranda, affidavits. Society can survive in total sleek air-conditioned comfort with no productive activity whatsoever. Bet on it.
Yawn.
New to the Rust Belt?
This is the plan.
It's called The Morgenthau Plan.
No industry, no power, just subsistence farming.
Apparently our sins in the Rust Belt were worse than Nazi Germany's.
Wiki can suffice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgenthau_Plan
ANd all this cash from private donors!
The media does not even ask who or why.
CMon FATTY chucky Gouidey Get ur ITEAM on it.
Phrase the question like this
Who donated all these boat loads of cash?
What contracts were promised to receive the donations?
Forget that do a story about drunks falling in the lake drowning EPIC journalism!
Geiger invented the Internet so I'm sure he can invent a seed to grow flaming hot Cheetos and grape pop.
Let's bend over backwards for these guys. Look at history. Isn't that how successful nations thrived? By catering to the useless? Um ... no.
Hand them several packets of vegetable seeds and watch the fun...
"Wat da fuk be dis?"
It's food muthafukah!
"Whut? No taco meat an' guy-ro meat wit' da squirt cheese, flamin' hots an peppers in a paper bag?"
If it were Plymouth Colony again, there would STILL be a mountain of skeletons bleaching in the sun 400 years later if these "New Urban Farmers" were around then.
Captain John Smith laid the law... "Work or starve!"
"Hah! Cap'n, you be bullshittin'!"
ANYONE who farms in englewood is a class A dip shit.
There are about three or four farms with these liberal goofs now.
You have to be some straight up idiot to farm there and think you're doing good.
You can't have anything nice on the s.side. I oughta know.
Grow some tomatoes and leave them on rhams poarch.
man mama, them seeds you give me was bogus--- I planted them 2 weeks ago and I ain't got no tomatoes or pickles yet--- just some little green thang comin up out the ground....
Its going to be good food for the real rats and piss bums.
Modern Grasshopper and Ant.
The ant works hard in the withering heat and the rain all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.
The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances
and plays the summer away.
Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while he is cold and starving.
CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, and ABC show up to provide pictures of the
shivering grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food.
America is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so?
Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper and everybody cries when they sing, ‘It’s Not Easy Being Green…’
ACORN stages a demonstration in front of the ant’s house where the news stations film the SEIU group singing, We shall overcome.
Then Rev. Jeremiah Wright has the group kneel down to pray for the grasshopper’s sake, while he damns the ants.
President Obama condems the ant and blames President Bush 43, President Bush 41, President Reagan, Christopher Columbus, and the Pope for the grasshopper’s plight.
Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid exclaim in an interview with Larry King that the ant has gotten rich off the back of the Grasshopper, and both call for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share.
Finally, the EEOC drafts The Economic Equity & Anti-Grasshopper Act Retroactive to the beginning of the summer.
The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the Government Green Czar and given to the grasshopper.
The story ends as we see the grasshopper and his free-loading friends finishing up the last bits of the ant’s food while the government house he is in, which, as you recall, just happens to be the ant’s old house, crumbles around them because the grasshopper doesn’t maintain it.
The ant has disappeared in the snow, never to be seen again.
The grasshopper is found dead in a drug related incident, and the house, now abandoned, is taken over by a gang of spiders who terrorize the ramshackle, once prosperous and peaceful, neighborhood.
The entire Nation collapses bringing the rest of the free world with it.
Anonymous said...
Don't sell these "Urban Farmers" short.
They are experts at picking apples.
3/17/2013 05:07:00 PM
They're experts at picking pockets.
This is all part of "sustainable development" which is aka "Local Agenda 21". Just wait until they set up the Urban Growth Boundary UGB and people are forced out of their suburban homes into the inner cities to join them. You'll find out soon enough. Everybody will. HUD will be redistributing people into and out of all neighborhoods. All of them. And we'll be riding our bikes on the bike paths they are building all over the country to get from point A to B as we tend our ghetto gardens.
who owns, runs, is responsible for insuring, protecting, accounting, and banking the proceeds from a citizen lot ???
when someone gets shot or stabbed for stealing an ear of corn or a radish is the city liable ???
doesn't anyone see this coming in city admin???
are you ALL idiots???
You don't even protect my garage
from burglars or my home. But you want to protect tomatoes.
come on
if these lots become fenced off, inhabited, and protected do they become property by eminent domain?
you know shacks are going to appear
mini streetervilles all over town
they will become family dwellings and the aclu will back this pro bono
great idea rahmbo....next !
3/18/2013 09:24:00 AM
The Ant and The Grasshopper...
"The entire Nation collapses bringing the rest of the free world with it."
Verily we say, Amen.
This IS the impending doom of this nation.
Study well this parable.
Study well the financial fuckery test-run in Crete.
Study well how desperately the yellow-pinky demo-commie-crats want you decent people disarmed and defenseless.
"They're Making... Farmers?"
No... No they're not.
You members of the now badly out-numbered former middle class will be forced to work these New American farm co-operatives as indentured servants of the Catered To Constituency and the Armed Wing of self same...
Heh... The Police are the enemy...
Anonymous said...
This is all part of "sustainable development" which is aka "Local Agenda 21". Just wait until they set up the Urban Growth Boundary UGB and people are forced out of their suburban homes into the inner cities to join them. You'll find out soon enough. Everybody will. HUD will be redistributing people into and out of all neighborhoods. All of them. And we'll be riding our bikes on the bike paths they are building all over the country to get from point A to B as we tend our ghetto gardens.
3/18/2013 01:55:00 PM
Sounds impossible, but Agenda 21 is very real and Chicago is participating in it.
" Farming is a difficult and involved job, usually involving early hours, back-breaking labor and endless days."
- - - -
Rahm said "maybe up to five acres", right?
With five acres, this "farming" will be a casual, four-short-Saturdays-during-the-spring sort of thing.
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