This is America?
- New Jersey officials, including police and the Department of Children and Families, are on the defensive today, after they raided the home of Shawn Moore, a firearms instructor for the National Rifle Association, demanding to see his guns after he posted a photo on Facebook of his son, Josh, 11, holding a rifle his father had given him as a birthday present.
"Someone called family services about the photo,” said Evan Nappen, an attorney who represents Moore. “It led to an incredible, heavy-handed raid on his house. They wanted to see his gun safe, his guns and search his house. They even threatened to take his kids."
[...] When the police confirmed they did not have a warrant to search his home and after a social worker refused to identify herself, Moore asked the officials to leave.
They adhered to his request.
Classic liberal overreach. We certainly hope that Mr. Moore is successful in his lawsuit and collects damages from every single person involved in this blatant violation.
In other Civil Rights news, the National Assault Weapons Ban is dead:
- After a meeting yesterday with Harry Reid (D-NV), Sen. Dianne Feinstein learned that her controversial assault weapons ban mess will not be part of the gun control bill package heading to the senate floor next month.
The AWB could be offered up as an amendment, but the bill was already considered a long shot, as senate democrats will be facing a competitive election cycle for 2014. Many face constituents back home who do not support such legislation.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
57 Comments:
Drat. The $300. lifetime membership offer is gone.
All just another political ploy my this President. He is from Chicago people. This is just part of the strategy.
We don't need any new law, we have plenty.
Enforce the ones that we have.
Pay the legislature to fold their hands and shut up.
So the dad takes a picture of his kid standing in camo holding a firearm with his finger off the trigger. (Apparently the kid knows more about gun safety than Joe-shoot-your-shotgun-thru-the door Biden)
Some rabid anti-gunner gets in a snit and calls NJ Child Welfare.
What was the exact wording of the outcry? Merely holding a firearm is considered "Child Endangerment?"
The police are in the middle here. They have to assist Child Welfare on these cases. At least they knew their limits.
The AWB is not dead.
The AWB is waiting for the rest of the gun bill to be implemented. The important part of that is universal registration and requirements for all transfers to go through FFLs and put into a database. THEN they will bring out the AWB and go door-to-door.
Expect felony penalties for failure to report thefts and losses.
This is Obamarama's America.
MS
Incredible! What next? Rights being trampled everywhere! Typical liberal bullshit!
The way its taught today in schools is that guns are bad.
MEANWHILE
Out of 76,000 prohibited persons flagged by the instant check system, only 13 were successfully prosecuted nationwide. Vice President Biden said they don't have time to prosecute those people.
So the answer is lets create more gun laws when the feds don't enforce the current ones when background checks raise a red flag?
it appears harry reid doesn't require
a 6th grader to "dumb down" the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights for him to understand. i have no doubt DiFi was probably stamping her feet and having one hell of a hissy fit.
i always thought that municipal, county, state and federal employees were suppose to show an id upon request. com ed and north shore gas do. if i remember correctly wasn't there an incident of a guy impersonating a plainclothes officer a few years back pulling female drivers over?
This is my weapon, this is my gun.
This is for fighting, and this is for fun, fella!
The AWB is not dead.
The AWB is waiting for the rest of the gun bill to be implemented. The important part of that is universal registration and requirements for all transfers to go through FFLs and put into a database. THEN they will bring out the AWB and go door-to-door.
Expect felony penalties for failure to report thefts and losses.
3/20/2013 05:17:00 AM
Agreed. Now is not the time for complacency.
The Marxists will never give up. Never.
I am glad the police were smart enough to know their limitations. Remember do not post controversal photo's and comments for the whole world to see.
As you stated, they need to sue their ass off and take them for everything they have, especially this so called social worker. Maybe a multi-million dollar settlement will make these progressive do-gooders think twice about calling the cops on a facebook posting.
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this is crazy you guys are missing one important piece of the puzzle. if you look in the background of the photo in clear sight is a 32oz pepsi on the table . clearly these parents are reckless.
Fuck Facebook. All you are doing is spying on yourself
The universal back ground check is a defacto registration
And Senator Lautenberg (D) N.J., is a co-sponsor of the highly touted "Assault Weapons Ban".
But don't worry, all these liberals SWEAR up and down that there are no plans to confiscate your weapons.
Smoke and mirrors as usual. The right hand is showing you the dead AWB ban while the left hand is under the table slowly working on worse.
Some rabid anti-gunner gets in a snit and calls NJ Child Welfare.
What was the exact wording of the outcry? Merely holding a firearm is considered "Child Endangerment?"
The police are in the middle here. They have to assist Child Welfare on these cases. At least they knew their limits.
3/20/2013 01:32:00 AM
not 'some rabid anti-gunner'.
some retarded liberal nutcase, thinking that this was an opportunity to create a crisis to exploit.
why else would the so-called 'social worker' refuse to properly identify herself?
The AWB is not dead.
The AWB is waiting for the rest of the gun bill to be implemented. The important part of that is universal registration and requirements for all transfers to go through FFLs and put into a database. THEN they will bring out the AWB and go door-to-door.
Expect felony penalties for failure to report thefts and losses.
3/20/2013 05:17:00 AM
they can register this:
8========o
So what about all the pictures on facebook etc,with the LiL angel with the dangling smoke from his mouth pointing a 9mm at the camera,throw in up his daddies gang affiliation sign with his other hand,Thats O.K.though,isn't that cute.These FUCKHEADS make me sick............
They have to assist Child Welfare on these cases.
Why? In this particular case, they would have been serving justice better to arrest the attempted intruder from family services than in asking to inventory the family's firearms.
I can you that off duty and retired police officers have had problems in New jersey and New York City regarding concealed carry. Remember the man who was flying across country and declared his unloaded firearms in his checked bags and his plane was forced to land in NJ? He was arrested by police for weapons in his bag and he was convicted and sent to prison. The governor had to intervene and pardon him. Not friendly state and no common sense.
No warrant, sounds like a good suit to stick right back up the ass of camden and nj state.
I hope and I hate to say this that everyone including po's who showed up at this person's home is sued punitivley along w/the state of NJ.Police do not have to obey an order that they know is unlawful.They should have refused to carry out the assignment and contacted their union rep.On the other hand they know {politicians} that AWB would cause an uprising that would make Greece look like a rave party.UP YOUR'S fienstein!
This guy was just on national TV in an interview. Wow is this scary. Talk about out of control public officials and no SW? I wish this happened to me. Big $$$$ coming his way. Who ever spearheaded this should be fired.
watch for the Obama end run around the congress for the U.N. TREATY that he says he WILL sign it will DEMAND a national registry as well as pose restrictions on what kind of weapons we can have from the citizens to our military.. I forget the name of it but it's been out there since BUSH refused to sign it..and IT'S BACK AGAIN,,!!!! ONLY rewritten slightly and most likely the name changed.. Congress is trying to pass a bill to STOP it HOWEVER after Obama signs it all he needs is the SENATE to ratify it.. and IF he gets enough DEMOCRATS in 2014 we have a problem,,
In the news again. Our very own Regina Evans arrested for witness tampering. You go girl!!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-country-club-hills-police-chief-charges-20130319,0,4402198.story
So what if my 13 year old has an FOID card?
Governor Christie? Where are you?
To the 01:32 poster they knew their linmits my ass, they were pushing it all the way read the article again. THey wanted to search his home, have him open a locked gun safer without ba warrant how is that knowing their limit, when he called their bluff they backed down. They had no probable cause to enter the home period. I would hope before IDCFS asked you to gain entry you would ask to read the hotline complaint, and what backround had been checked, such as prior IDCFS contact and if the allegation required removing the child from the home without delay.
All just another political ploy my this President. He is from Chicago people. This is just part of the strategy.
3/20/2013 01:20:00 AM
Whoa there! He is just another carpetbagger politician. He is no more a Chicago guy than Hillary is a New York girl. Opportunistic Carpetbaggers, both of them.
I am not a cop, I'm former military, these gun laws they are passing have the potential to make the good guys that just like to shoot at their range and do their thing start to fear you in law enforcement.
Most of us gun people in the rational states and formerly rational states have your back. This crap may change things.
Do you really want to have the good people consider you a threat? That is what this bs is setting up.
WOW; overreact much? And I mean you, SCC. You're taking this guys claims way, way to seriously and literally. The police and social services conducted a "heavy handed" raid, but, as soon as they were asked to leave, they did? What this sounds like to me is that a couple cops and a social worker knocked on a guys door because someone complained about a picture of a kid with a rifle (a fear most likely related to the rash of recent school shootings). When he wouldn't talk to them, they left. What about this was heavy handed? or illegal? or overreaching? or deserving of damages? It sounds like cops doing their jobs.
Remember do not post controversal photo's and comments for the whole world to see.
3/20/2013 08:48:00 AM
There is nothing "controversial" about constitutional rights. That's like saying the American flag is controversial. Controversial only to bad actors who hate freedom.
3/20 1:32am
Please tell me you are not on the job. We do not take orders from some idiot at DCFS. We are the Police we are supposed to have some common sense and judgement and most of all we are supposed to know the law. Too much college not enough common sense and way too many no balls clout ridden bosses have ruined this job. Glad I'm retired now but I gotta worry about some over educated idiot new breed goof coming to my door someday over my expired gun registration or some such nonsense. No wonder people hate the Police and look at them as the enemy nowadays.
Join the NRA.
FEMA Camps are coming!!
Anonymous said...
Drat. The $300. lifetime membership offer is gone.
3/20/2013 01:14:00 AM
Try here!!
https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?CampaignID=ar15
1984
If you are still active and posting pics and status updates on FB, you need your head examined.
They go after this little guy (who just coincidentally happens to be the son of a firearms instructor)
Yet thousands of pics of gang bangers continue to be posted on FB and violent videos of the yutes are on youtube.--and NOTHING is done about it. Ever.
See the agenda? Blame it on that good ol' anonymous caller.
Never forget what happened to Brandon Raub.
I am glad the police were smart enough to know their limitations. Remember do not post controversal photo's and comments for the whole world to see.
3/20/2013 08:48:00 AM
define: controversial.
The Marxists will never give up. Never.
3/20/2013 08:42:00 AM
oh, i wouldn't say thaaaaaat.
Chalkie
WOW; overreact much? And I mean you, SCC. You're taking this guys claims way, way to seriously and literally. The police and social services conducted a "heavy handed" raid, but, as soon as they were asked to leave, they did? What this sounds like to me is that a couple cops and a social worker knocked on a guys door because someone complained about a picture of a kid with a rifle (a fear most likely related to the rash of recent school shootings). When he wouldn't talk to them, they left. What about this was heavy handed? or illegal? or overreaching? or deserving of damages? It sounds like cops doing their jobs.
3/20/2013 06:00:00 PM
wow. overreact much? and i mean you, mushbrain.
post your name and address.
your real name and address.
then we'll see if your sincere about not being concerned about a 'couple of cops and a social worker' knocking on your door.
Governor Christie? Where are you?
3/20/2013 02:54:00 PM
he's busy.
got his face buried ears deep in a bagful of Twinkies.
" The Marxist will never give up, never "
And neither will I.
Chalkie? , he waits, patiently, quietly, for those who help him feed the conqueror worm.
Eternity is on Chalkies side, he's always been there & always will be.
Your fault, my fault, nobody's fault, he's always there to reap his harvest.
Osama Bin Laden's America...just as he dreamed it...
Anonymous said...
Drat. The $300. lifetime membership offer is gone.
3/20/2013 01:14:00 AM
Try here!!
https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?CampaignID=ar15
3/20/2013 08:45:00 PM
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Link worked!! I signed up in less than two minutes. Done.
Thank you very much.
Chalkie? , he waits, patiently, quietly, for those who help him feed the conqueror worm.
Eternity is on Chalkies side, he's always been there & always will be.
Your fault, my fault, nobody's fault, he's always there to reap his harvest.
3/20/2013 10:51:00 PM
or, on a brighter note:
'The greatest thing
You'll ever learn
Is just to love...
And be loved in return'
Chalkie
Scary over reach of power
Anonymous said...
Remember do not post controversal photo's and comments for the whole world to see.
3/20/2013 08:48:00 AM
So if your Pro-Second Amendmenet you cannot exercise your 1st Amendment rights???
This is America chump,not North Korea.
Anonymous said...
I am glad the police were smart enough to know their limitations. Remember do not post controversal photo's and comments for the whole world to see.
3/20/2013 08:48:00 AM
What is so controversial about the photo?
By who's opinion?
I would say 70 % or more, AMERICANS would find nothing wrong with the photo.
You are selling out to them by giving in to them. Man up or GTF out of the way.
And to the post about Gov. Christie , I hope you were kidding because this guy is one of THEM and is the problem.
Ret. Sgt.
But don't worry, all these liberals SWEAR up and down that there are no plans to confiscate your weapons.
...there are no plans AT THIS TIME to confiscate your weapons.
Why would a government entity go thru all the expense of setting up a Gun Registration agency just "know where the guns are" unless they were planning to someday go get them?
They do have plans to get your guns. They just don't want to release them yet.
NJ is a pretty rough state when it comes to gun control.
I grew up in South Jersey & I remember a cop telling me one time that if I ever had to shoot someone on my property, drag his body in the house. Not sure if it it was jest, but I always remembered that.
I hope this family whose rights were violated win a very large lawsuit.
And fuck NJ, well, except Berlin, because that's where I grew up and it's still as quaint now as it was then. :)
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I am glad the police were smart enough to know their limitations. Remember do not post controversal photo's and comments for the whole world to see.
3/20/2013 08:48:00 AM
What is so controversial about the photo?
By who's opinion?
I would say 70 % or more, AMERICANS would find nothing wrong with the photo.
You are selling out to them by giving in to them. Man up or GTF out of the way.
And to the post about Gov. Christie , I hope you were kidding because this guy is one of THEM and is the problem.
Ret. Sgt.
3/21/2013 09:30:00 AM
Right on the money, Sarge.
Christie is a gun-hating union buster.
Mr. SouthSide said...
Governor Christie? Where are you?
3/20/2013 02:54:00 PM
After Sandy, Christie drank the kool-aid. He's got his head stuck up Obama's ass. They're best buds now!
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