CFD to "Escort" Students
If you don't have enough cops, bring in the firemen!
No word yet if the FOP or Firefighters Local will be filing some sort of job action on this one. According to the memo, it's supposed to run for three weeks.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
138 Comments:
Bulletproof raincoats for everyone!!!
It's all about the children. Give the CFD a raise.
And nothing from their useless POS President either. He has got to be the most balless guy in labor. The fire guys I hear from would sooner have the CPS babe for a true leader. All These guys and gals of CFD despise this Ryan for good reason. Go to the www.truenews site for some info on this but it's now under older items.
Bizarro world.......
Wait till a firefighter gets hurt trying to help some kid out and the city denies his medical. Or better yet. What happens when CFD onviews a gang fight and calls for CPD backup, meanwhile someone gets shot or killed. Can't wait for all the savages shouting into the news cameras "The fire dept was there and watched ray ray get shotfied. They didn't even get out of their truck to help."
Approved by:
Jose Santiago
Fire Commisioner
(And Rahm's Bitch)
Hilarious.
And somehow, Mayor 9.5 is about to magically find $100 million for a new DePaul basketball stadium.
No money for proper police, though.
Wow, can you imagine the first time a kid gets wacked and the news will report it and Rahm will say it was a block away and off CPS property. Yawn, heaven't we seen this story before? It's never the city's fault??
If i was a member of the cfd i'd either demand a firearm for the assignment or for a cop to escort me while ii escort the future thug.
Rahm farted this flaming rat turd of a missile fully expecting it to fly?
Chicago is beset with LUNATICS!
Do any of these geniuses live in a world where the sky is blue and the grass is green?
Or is it a case of every-fucking body else is crazy but them?
Cue the recent Mother's Day foolishness in New Orleans as an example of the "Don't Give No Fuck" culture that thinks nothing of shooting into crowds of people...
Seriously?
Rahm & Co. have faith that Dude & Co. will check their fratricidal fire due to the presence of unarmed Firemen "escorting" the kiddies to school?
There go dat BULLSHIT Ol' Grand-Dad used to warn you about.
Heh... The Russians sent unarmed conscripts over the top (at machinegun point) to face the Wehrmacht on the Eastern Front.
*Comrade Commissar... Where are our weapons?*
>Laying on the ground in the hands of the dead... Tovarisch.<
Unarmed Firemen performing a Police function of public safety as a cynical political ploy?
With axes and pikes at port arms maybe? Just Kidding...
So... is this what Rahm meant when he stopped by the Fire House and threatened the Firemen with, "Well, Ya gonna have to learn to bleed?"
Fuck Rahm... Let HIM and his alder mutts march THEIR tender and unarmed asses through these free-fire zones "For The Children."
We vaguely recall reading a quote that said in essence that it's good for the morale of soldiers in harm's way to see a few of their generals laying on the ground.
Heh... You'll never see local elected officialdom leading from the front or taking full frontal generalship on this spasm of fuckery.
Why... They might have to face the same peril Policemen and Firemen face!
>Pffft!<
Toss a pack of lady-finger firecrackers and watch Tiny and the 50 $110K gumps run each other over while screaming for the "overpaid" Coppers and Firemen to do something.
>Snicker!<
Fuck it all then... Let Ceasefire do the escort since Flamin' Tutu is so damn big on crisis management, message control and spin doctoring.
It'll be a priceless political talking point and photo-op too.
Dude & Co. WILL do the fool as is their wont.
It ain't a Police OR Fire problem...
The cowardice and pandering of elected officialdom is what has allowed things to decay to the point of unarmed Firemen being cynically pressed (under pain of politically motivated discipline and retaliation) into performing this function, because Police Manpower has been so thoroughly and intentionally destroyed...
If anyone is killed or injured in this exercise of fuckery, the ones who orchestrated this should be dangled with the offender(s).
The desperation IS showing...
this is a joke. holy shit!! No blame or responsibility on the parents. What the fuck is going on with the city and the departments?
Next thing, cop's will be fighting fire's.
firefighters are not armed and they are supposed to be helping school age children cross dangerous gang infested territory--- gangbangers shoot at the real police in this county--- are the fireman going to throw axes and pike poles at armed savages if something happens---
Will the CFD be allowed to carry weapons during this security watch on CPS's student?
You've got to be f*3king kidding....
hopefully CFD will grab a couple of the school crossings...which is a task beneath our crossing guard supervisor- plus we have additional "off the books" posts that the DC wants manned to appease local favorites
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I'm proposing one officer for every student in CPS. We escort our assigned child to school wait outside the classroom till school is over. We then escort the child home where we will have our own designated room in the childs home. We cook dinner for the child, help him with his homework spend some quality time with the child then put him to sleep. We then start the process all over the next day.
Pretty soon the firemen will be asked to get 'hands on', do street stops and fill out contact cards. Do they have to stay in a box yet?
Can you imagine the press if one firemen gets hurt doing this?
Will CFD have to stay in the "box"?
Well, since CFD has minimum staffing requirements that is why you will see complete companies of CFD escorting students.
At what cost to the taxpayer?
How much does it cost to take an engine out of a firehouse?
And what about the public safety issues? What if that engine is needed for a fire, where will the replacement be coming from and from how far?
I am sure that there are many more questions that need to be asked.
Safe passage? .. You gotta be kidding me. So the fire department has to babysit little ganbanger kids now??
Who's going to fight fires then??
Yes this is definitely lawsuit material !!
Wouldn't the "positive adult presence" come from the parents ? Maybe they should start school at 3pm. This way grandma has enough time tio get up, head out to the hood, walk around till she finds mama on the corner, take her home, clean her up then stand with her on the safe passage path so she doesn't wander back to the corner at least till her child walks safely into school.
Santiago is a Political Hack, and as with all Cook County Machine Hacks, the Party is the first and foremost entity to be protected above all else. Lil Rahm knows, that if one kid is killed or beaten en route to a new school; Rahm's Black support and Second Term disappears! My only question is what happens if the firefighters are forced to fight? Will the firefighters be covered if they use their equipment to defend themselves? If they are injured defending youths, is that a job related injury, or death? Is there going to be special training, on what to do? At a time when Rahm is trying to take away benefits from the Firefighters Contract; any member who cooperates is jumping out of a plane without a parachute. Baby"G"
City using a form of me too clause....ROFLMAO, our politicians and leadership have lost their mind. Time for change at the voting booth, wake up CFD and CPD.
I now hear that each resident will be required to send a family member out every other day as part of safe passage. Also all the 7-11's have to do the same thing now to keep their business license.
And now Santiago earns his pay -carrying water for Rahm.
I need a partner. Can Barbara Byrd Bennett come with me on my alcohol-fueled domestics at 3 am?
I'll say it as bluntly as I can: Stupid fucking idea.
And now we need an armor drive to clothe these brave souls on their perilous journeys.
You keep saying "inconceivable," but I do not think you know what that means...Rham a Sicilian?
Careful what orders you follow, they can not order you to die. Enough with the silliness.
Will they have a pancake breakfast at the firehouse too???????????
Good F#ck these "hero's" It's about time someone put them in their place! These guys should be on 8.5 tours and suffer like every other city worker. They make great money to do very little. It's like they are on government assistance too. Don't give me the BS that "we run all day and night on EMS runs when there isn't a fire" BS!! You guys may go one EMS runs but do very little while on scene. Waste of tax payers money. If suburb FD's can do 3 man rigs so can the city! Just because you are CFD doesn't mean you can do what you want, say what you want, and act like a complete arrogant prick. Look what the CFD puts on everyone of their rigs, "Where there when you need us" well....STFU and be a crossing guard for the most two hours of the day!
It's NOT their job.
Will this be O/T? If so, where's this $ coming from?. If it's straight, then who's manning the post at the station. Bad enough a cop has to be bullet sponge for tiny's half ass schemes now he is putting people in there with no training in a shooting situation
Maybe CFD should drive around the entire tour also and look for crime they won't, and shouldn't, do anything about...except laugh at.
CFD used to be a pretty rough crowd. I remember in the mid/late 60s some of the Cabrini Green geniuses used to to pull alarm boxes and wait for the truck to show up so they could throw bricks and bottles.
I remember one incident on North, Larrabee and Ogden when they tried that. Note to geniuses, probably not the best idea to piss off large men wearing helmets and carrying axes and those long pokey things. (Remember the Vikings?)
Anyway, last I saw was a large group of Cabrini Greeners running south back towards the jungle with a few "Vikings" in pursuit.
NC
a positive adult presence, thats usually the parents in the rest of the world.
Hey, who gives a fuck about ray ray? What about when one of my family members needs CFD and they're busy watching the "children" going to get their learn on? A lawsuit waiting to happen? Could be.
Damn, there goes naptime down the drain!
"and the wheels on the bus go round and round"
squad,wait for me......
Chalkie
Only two "professions' make money in bed! One of them is fireman.
LMAO!!! You mean the firefighters are actually going to have to get out there and work instead of sitting in their stations watching TV, washing their cars, and BBQing?
Why not have each CFD company wake up each student, take them to the firehouse for a meal and drive them to school on the fire truck?
They can pick them up at school, feed them dinner at the house and drive them home!
Does this mean the Fire Dept will want the carbines back that they purchased in the 60's and we took over?
Also, they do make firefighter bulletproof vests, the union should demand them.
And somehow, Mayor 9.5 is about to magically find $100 million for a new DePaul basketball stadium.
No money for proper police, though.
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I thought the same thing. I also read that Fioretti was saying this is the last thing we need at this time, especially for a team that only plays 18 games. Maybe Rahm's hold on the 50 thieves isn't what he thought it was. Also read that his new parking meter deal is a couple of votes short of passing. It's not a mutiny, but at least it's something.
these bastards have already been trying to disband the Marine Unit trying to use some centuries old statute to have some sort of police powers on the water, wont be surprised if Doorknob and Fox get 9.5 to go with it......always remember, most bosses will hang us out to dry if given the chance
Fire fighters are unsuited to the task.
This should be purview of CTU teachers and staff of CPS - they are all about the children.
More idiotic Rahm Kool aid!
The Democrats in this town really suck! Can't wait to leave these money draining Bozos!
All they need are vests cause if you work in the ghetto, you're already carrying. My brother worked there for 30+ years and never left home without his pistol (nicer than my duty weapon).
This scenario will make for a good dramatic scene in an upcoming episode of Chicago Fire.
I have a better idea. Maybe Rahm can use his security detail for this escort service and then park a fire truck in front of his house for security.
Next they will have to drive around an Impact Zone, when not on a run, They are working any way and the mayor can cut VRI costs.
If they can walk around at intersections with boot in hand asking for donations, then they can cross the kiddies as well. I guess they finally realized that the firemen in certain houses have a lot of down time. I've often felt that we should be allowed to come back to the station after handling a job and hang out in the break room. To sit back in a comfy leather recliner and watch the big screen HD television or maybe shoot a game of pool to relieve the stress. How about it FOP...
My God. What is going through their minds?
How about dragging out their lazy ass mothers and live in uncles to walk their own children to and from school. If the powers to be believe that they are at the point of using Firemen, its time to bring in an airborne division....how stupid can this get.
All Northside firehouses only, as the city burns elsewhere.
But what ever happened to that $60 million Safe Passage money from a couple years ago ? How did that work out?
..I guess they can at least carry a squirt gun..
this is essentially traffic to and from school, why cant the ever useless TMA be appointed to this task? Bulls season is about over anyway and nobody needs a yellow jacket with their imaginary light saber to wave them through a green left turn arrow....
Total Municipal Assification
Good, it's about time CFD shares in a proactive role instead of sidelining it -----> key word shares
Firemen don't carry guns?
Best one I've heard in years.
what does it say about parents who cant control a pre-teen. intresting that nothing is said about high school freshmen crossing gang territory.
If Rahm wants something he'll spare no cost to do it... no matter how illogical or nonsencical the idea.
Remember it's Rahm's way or the highway.
So what happens if there's a fire somewhere?
Isn't that gonna interfere with brunch, dominoes, and Pilates?
I don't even no where to begin???????
This is ludicrous. And isn't August 26 a bit early of a start?
Santiago is a political PUSSY just like the rest of them.
Go ahead and sell out your department you fucking hand job.
CFD can refuse an assignment. What happens when you're assigned to escort these honor roll inductees and with the added following words "CFD refused". Those are words that I have heard too many times in my opinion.
Is child escort a part of the Fire Academy's course requirement now?
This is total and complete BS.
Get the parents out there !!!
Cease Fire, neighborhood block clubs, relatives, alderpersons and their lackeys, curch groups etc...
Police AND Fire cannot be BABYSITTERS they are already spread too thinly and the mayor does NOTHING !!!
Chicago must stop being a nanny state / city to special interest groups, and loudmouths in general.
This goof of a mayor even has the CTA employees going door to door
warning the "Idiots" that the trains will soon become shut on the red line. Inform yourselves !
Read. Watch the news. Talk to a neighbor who can read and listen.
What are we becoming in this SOON TO BE DETROIT city?
The middle class taxpayers deserve
more but get less each week.
No wonder Rahmmy is dropping in approval ratings like a lead weight. He's inept.
Maggie park, bike lanes, hiking parking fees, you go mayor...
back to D.C. forever please.
(and NOT as a president hopeful)
Take McLies with you, good grief.
Santiago
Rahms hot chilli pepper
"cops fighting fires" ???
been there done that (Byrne)
fire doing policing, same same
the fire and police can figure this out on their own.
the real enemy is the mayor and his administration
bizzaro world gone berzerk
It is about time the hero's got involved.
Get out of the house, see the world.
How many times can they wash the truck or mop the floors?
Remember, they get paid to watch TV, read the paper, work out, eat and sleep.
They get paid by the city, while they run their businesses on cell phones and laptops.
Few of their runs involve any fire at all.
Most their runs are ambulance assists, where they stand around waiting for the ambulance. The only "action" they see is watching Chicago Fire on NBC. The CFD is not like Chicago Fire.
This escort assignment is just killing time, out of the house, while waiting for a run. They just won't have the above describe amenities.
Please don't tell me about the dangers, stress, sleep deprivation, etc of a firefighter. Cops have to worse times two.
You're right, I should have joined the CFD. When I was a young, I thought the firefighter's job was boring. I still do. When I was young, I didn't understand their benefits. I do now.
In other related news, all squad cars will now be outfitted with fire extinguishers.
Get ready for the lawsuits.
Where the hell are the parents ? Oh wait they must get up super early and let their 6 y.o. Kids get ready for school and walk by themselves. What a joke. Cater to these asshole parents who are used to getting everything done for them.
for 200K a year with a 150K pension in 3 years you also would carry water for rahm
si senore
That tell u how short we r?
OMG, WOW and a UNBELIEVABLE! This city is something else...
So. CFD is now a "community-based organization[s]?" And CFD firefighters and paramedics are now part of the Department of Buildings/Inspections/Zoning (or whatever department determines the quality/safety of buildings in the city?
Interesting.
..as you stroll along with the little urchins hum Kumbaya. It will ease your mind that your own kids in the better areas are walking to school by themselves.. no immediate adult help should they need it..
Close more schools. For once, Rahm is getting to the waste in keeping these day care centers open.
75 percent of our RE taxes goes to the public schools with their over staffed 100 K plus administrators.
Let the over paid teachers do this. Classes might start at 3 PM cause the mama' be tired from being up all night to get these poor kids ready.
Got to feel for these kids who are just pawns to everyone.
assign firefighters to 8 hour shifts like everyone else and most will retire . sit around , cook , work out , cut wood , pipe for next side job , sleep. it's time to have cfd walk kids to school , make pbj sandwiches for the ghetto rats
First off, you must be a troll, not. CPD or CFD. I'm a cop and while we all enjoy a little good natured fun at each others expense, I have nothing but respect for our brothers and sisters in "Red". Winter in Chicago, 3am, wind chill twenty below, wake from a dead sleep to go spray water on an apartment fire, while trying to save the occupants.
We know what their made of but what about you hero?
Sure there are some cushy spots but that's clout and that's everywhere in this city.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I don't even no where to begin???????
5/14/2013 11:17:00 AM
Begin with a dictionary.
Anonymous said...
I'm proposing one officer for every student in CPS. We escort our assigned child to school wait outside the classroom till school is over. We then escort the child home where we will have our own designated room in the childs home. We cook dinner for the child, help him with his homework spend some quality time with the child then put him to sleep. We then start the process all over the next day.
5/14/2013 05:30:00 AM
In olden days, this was called 'parenting'. Now, it's called 'policing'.
i liove in edison park why ARENT THE POLICE WATCHING MY KIDS TO N FROM SCHOOL.
Anonymous said...
Good F#ck these "hero's" It's about time someone put them in their place! These guys should be on 8.5 tours and suffer like every other city worker. They make great money to do very little. It's like they are on government assistance too. Don't give me the BS that "we run all day and night on EMS runs when there isn't a fire" BS!! You guys may go one EMS runs but do very little while on scene. Waste of tax payers money. If suburb FD's can do 3 man rigs so can the city! Just because you are CFD doesn't mean you can do what you want, say what you want, and act like a complete arrogant prick. Look what the CFD puts on everyone of their rigs, "Where there when you need us" well....STFU and be a crossing guard for the most two hours of the day!
5/14/2013 07:50:00 AM
WOW...You are a very angry person.
All that anger and hate is going to cause you to have a stroke or heart attack.
I'm so sorry you were never called for the CFD.
Let it go...Just Let it go.
In other related news, all squad cars will now be outfitted with fire extinguishers.
5/14/2013 12:54:00 PM
I get the sarcasm, but if it were really going to happen, it would be history repeating itself. Each squad car had a fire extinguisher until mid-1974. After then, only the squadrols had them.
The Alderfools ought to be escorting the kids.
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What's wrong with that? We are a community right?
Now we'll have more paper to write when the little darling's
"uncles" start robbing the firemen.
This just in...all fire houses to become day care centers.
If their union agrees to this they are nuts. What do they do when they are in the middle of a gun battle in one of these wonderful safe passage areas. Hire more police if your'e short!!!!
Can you imagine what Hoff's reaction to this might be? That man had balls, not little bitty bolas like Santiago.
This fire commissioner was bought, we all know that.
Hoff was awarded the Lambert Tree/Carter Harrison Medal not once but twice! Good men work their whole careers praying for a chance to work for a boss like Hoff; instead they get a eunuch like Santiago.
Strong and tough men will run into a fire building if someone like Hoff is there to lead them, no questions asked.
Disgusting.
Anonymous said...
And somehow, Mayor 9.5 is about to magically find $100 million for a new DePaul basketball stadium.
No money for proper police, though.
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I thought the same thing. I also read that Fioretti was saying this is the last thing we need at this time, especially for a team that only plays 18 games. Maybe Rahm's hold on the 50 thieves isn't what he thought it was. Also read that his new parking meter deal is a couple of votes short of passing. It's not a mutiny, but at least it's something.
5/14/2013 09:05:00 AM
Well, I can't not mention the $55 million for Maggies Park or the $250 milion already committed for a new Malcolm X College to replace the one that is barely 30 years old.
I hope they make reading a requirement to graduate from the new one.
So between Maggie Daley Park and Malcolm X College, that is $305 million bucks.
Or, 3,050 police officers.
What about the children?
FOP will do what they always do.....NOTHING!
The hose holders are going to make out big on this one.
I've already hooked 3 of them up with legal counsel ahead of time.
Jackpot!
Good F#ck these "hero's" It's about time someone put them in their place! These guys should be on 8.5 tours and suffer like every other city worker. They make great money to do very little. It's like they are on government assistance too. Don't give me the BS that "we run all day and night on EMS runs when there isn't a fire" BS!! You guys may go one EMS runs but do very little while on scene. Waste of tax payers money. If suburb FD's can do 3 man rigs so can the city......
You're a fucking tool and probably a fucking mutt ducker! As far as doing nothing on EMS runs, that's a load of shit. Most of the time (certainly in my area), EVERYTHING is done prior to the ambo showing up. By who? By us and that includes carting these minature elephant pts down the stairs from the 3rd or 4th floor. And being there first b4 the ambo at a CPD 10-1. Who's working the PO before the ambo shows? No one especially the first fire company? Yeah we just stand around and hold hands praying that he/she will be ok!
Maybe in your beat or your neighborhood, it's quiet and good for you. Go to ANY house on the South and West Sides and I can guarantee you they run a lot - day and nite.
3 man companies? Try that in ANY area that still gets fires on a regular basis. Especially, if bigger buildings are involved (courtyards, multi units 4 plus 1's, hi rise). Places that have LOADS of section 8. Most burbs do not have buildings like the above and VERY old at that. Then we'll see how many more people die. Not to mention CFD LODD's.
BTW - that's not a complaint about my job. It's what I signed up for. But don't marginalize us either. Your comments are akin to saying all police just hang out at the donut shop and do nothing ex drink coffee and flirt with girls. Obviously, that is FAR from the truth. Especially in the above mentioned areas. No denying, the job of a PO is VERY hard. And I'm VERY quick to point that out when people say FF's are much nicer than PO's. My response is usually a) there are good and bad in both depts. b) the crap you guys deal with is ENORMOUS. c) The amount of restraint you have for the true animals on the street is even greater. I have nothing but RESPECT for you guys.
So next time, you wanna mouth off about FF's doing nothing, you should get your facts straight jagoff!
CFD FF (Southside)
To 1142. CFD can not refuse a job. When you hear CFD refused it is the OEMC dispatch that refused to send. If you think a CFD company can refuse a job then you are a bigger moron than you appear to be.
LOL! When I read all the comments calling FF's lazy asses with nothing to do all day long all I think of are guys who couldn't get on the job due to inability to pass a physical, poor credit or they got too old and waited too long. LOL!
They should just cross train everybody. Cops should be teachers and firemen and firemen should work the Streets and San trucks on the way back in from jobs.
It would be more effective to have the CFD there at dismissal time...Bring out the hoses!
Let's see? Social engineering for decades which destroyed family values, in fact destroyed the family. enslaved people to make them totally dependent on government so they will keep voting democratic, created crime ridden neighborhoods with no chance of redemption, I would say that this is one of the biggest fires I ever witnessed, why not call the fire department?
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I don't even no where to begin???????
5/14/2013 11:17:00 AM
Begin with a dictionary.
5/14/2013 04:23:00 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Anonymous said...
Let the over paid teachers do this. Classes might start at 3 PM cause the mama' be tired from being up all night to get these poor kids ready.
Got to feel for these kids who are just pawns to everyone.
5/14/2013 04:13:00 PM
Don't start with the overpaid teachers crap. If you can't respect what they go through, I wonder what kind of job you do on the street yourself. They probably think you're overpaid too..moron.
So next time, you wanna mouth off about FF's doing nothing, you should get your facts straight jagoff!
CFD FF (Southside)
5/14/2013 10:29:00 PM
Amen, brother. This cop will have a beer with you. Like you said, there are strokes on every job. You just responded to one. Most of the rest of us feel the way you do. Stay safe, brother.
I just heard that they're going to have to do contact cards too. I'm just sayin'.
I for one support this measure. I also believe that CPD should be helping out with fires. Hand me an axe. I feel like smashing some shit. If I get a little carried away, just remember our politicians did this.
The firemen should cook them breakfast, and help them with their homework!
5/14/2013 10:29:00 PM
Well said.
NC
why not let homeless sleep in fire cots during the hours the FF are up and out?
then send them to breakfast at Rahms. :)
pancakes Shumba ?
The memo says the firemen "will provide support when and if they(school students walking the route) need it". Does this mean firemen must leave their rigs and disperse gang bangers along the route? Should they mediate disputes, break up fights, chase down offenders? This is clearly a contract violation, forcing firemen to do jobs they are not properly trained or equipped to do.
This is the most ridiculous order I've seen. And there have been many, but this one takes the cake. Why the hell should any first responder be used as a babysitter? There are so many reasons why this is just a plain bad and ill conceived policy. The people responsible for this must have gotten their management degrees from a cracker jack box. CFD is not trained or equipped to handle on-view disturbances, especially if there is a gun involved. Their union leaders are cross-eyed and simple if they allow their men and women to be used as referees for these ghetto mutts that want to start crap with kids from opposing schools. I grew up in this city, and NEVER ONCE had police supervision at dismissal, extra curricular sporting events, dances, etc. If the school needed help, they would have actual PARENTS volunteer to do it. This bs about "it's for the children" and "safety" is just sugar coating the truth that this is another government subsidy which the comes directly from the the taxpayers' wallet to pay for the inattentive, absentee, neglecting "parents" of these kids, most of whom are already on some, if not all, state assistance. Meanwhile, the taxpaying middle, and increasing lower-middle class continues to foot the bill for all of it. The political elites, including rahm, continue to enjoy 24/7 personal security, this includes their families, with each precious child enjoying an armed police escort to the store, to the game, to school etc, watching them while they sleep every night. We the working class have to fend for ourselves, and watch our own children and trust they will make it back home in one piece; no escorts, no assistance, no armed guard, no driver- just relying on being a responsible parent. What a concept.
South side FF, nobody here thinks FF' are bad guys, hell my brother inlaw and my best friend from h.s. are both FF's. but let's not get it twisted, even both of them tell me how they don't do shit when they are on call and can't believe the city pays them for the work they do. See we are all realist here and what you read on this blog is envy. We know we are dumb for becoming the police when we could of been FF's instead and got payed the same salary to work less days and do nothing when on the city clock. Go push that hero shit somewhere else. I have the utmost respect for the paramedics who roll all night long on their 24 hr shift and deal with the same assholes we have to, they earn our respect and their pay.
Anonymous said...
So next time, you wanna mouth off about FF's doing nothing, you should get your facts straight jagoff!
CFD FF (Southside)
5/14/2013 10:29:00 PM
Amen, brother. This cop will have a beer with you. Like you said, there are strokes on every job. You just responded to one. Most of the rest of us feel the way you do. Stay safe, brother.
5/15/2013 03:11:00 AM
I'd be happy to buy a beer for you both considering what you all put up with.
City trades worker.
Anonymous said...
It would be more effective to have the CFD there at dismissal time...Bring out the hoses!
5/15/2013 12:36:00 AM
Spit coffee all over my keyboard laughing. Not a bad idea.
Anonymous said...
They should just cross train everybody. Cops should be teachers and firemen and firemen should work the Streets and San trucks on the way back in from jobs.
5/15/2013 12:13:00 AM
I wanna be cross trained as a mayor, an alderman or commissioner (revenue producing department $$$).
"If their union agrees to this they are nuts. What do they do when they are in the middle of a gun battle in one of these wonderful safe passage areas."
What's the problem? They drive the big red machine out of the house, in the daylight, to where they are told to park or cruise a designated route. Just like when they assigned to a neighborhood parade or block party. The firefighter is your friend.
If they get a run, they go to the run. If they see a problem, they call for CPD.
Other workers, S&S, electric co, gas co, telephone, post office, FedEx, etc, all perform their jobs in the same neighborhoods without big problems.
You all are reacting like they were going to sit on an open dope spot from midnight to 4am.
I remember as child the thrill of getting a ride on the KIDDIELAND FIRE TRUCK for someone's birthday party.
I even got to ring the bell.
Maybe we could have the kids ride the rigs instead of school busses.
Do any of them even have bells anymore?
And if we don't have enough firefighters, we use streets and sanitation workers.
The hose holders are going to make out big on this one.
I've already hooked 3 of them up with legal counsel ahead of time.
Jackpot!
Oh yea. They are going to be rich from this one. Might bankrupt the country will all the money they are going to get. The lawyers are in a frenzy over this one, probably in the billions. Now go have another beer
It would be more efficient to give fireman a dozen bags of ashphalt and fill in some pot holes on the way to schools .
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"If their union agrees to this they are nuts. What do they do when they are in the middle of a gun battle in one of these wonderful safe passage areas."
What's the problem? They drive the big red machine out of the house, in the daylight, to where they are told to park or cruise a designated route. Just like when they assigned to a neighborhood parade or block party. The firefighter is your friend.
If they get a run, they go to the run. If they see a problem, they call for CPD.
Other workers, S&S, electric co, gas co, telephone, post office, FedEx, etc, all perform their jobs in the same neighborhoods without big problems.
You all are reacting like they were going to sit on an open dope spot from midnight to 4am.
5/15/2013 12:32:00 PM
You DO understand there's 70lbs of gear for every fireman? You DO understand all the firemen won't be walking the same route or the same group of children? You DO understand that the difference in FIVE MINUTES of fire response time can determine if your house is a total loss or just inconveniently smoke-damaged?
Fire trucks are often sent out in lieu of ambulances, too. Do I want my mother dying of a heart attack because Mayor CompletelyOuttaTouch thinks it's cute to send the firemen out to play anti-violence security guard games?
Can I get t-shirts made up that say "The Bravest Crossing Guards"?
will cfd walk the kids to brother rice , mother mccauly
two m/b 's committed an armed robbery there last week
hey how about some young police recruits on foot patrol for the tax paying citizens and not the criminal welfare citizens
What's the deal with firemen... Why do they need to own a red vehicle off duty? Something wrong with this!
No lil johnny... you can't help me roll up the hose.
Anonymous said...
It would be more efficient to give fireman a dozen bags of ashphalt and fill in some pot holes on the way to schools .
5/15/2013 05:55:00 PM
>>>Find out who is paid more.
A. Chicago Fire Fighter or
B. Streets & San Laborer.
(P.S. Why don't they use concrete? That's a Cement Mason's job.
Quoting from the memo of Commissioner Santiago:
"For Phase I, the CFD will conduct surveys for all Safe Passage routes for all welcoming schools. This involves identifying abandoned buildings located on and around the routes and making the determination if they are open and/or dangerous."
Some time ago at a staff meeting at a West Side district we were told we were going to do the same thing. I told my fellow white shirts that this would be a waste of our time. There is someone in every neighborhood that knows exactly that information and would be glad to share that information.
There was a couple of hundred years of police experience in that room and there was stunned silence. In about the same time it takes to play the Final Jeopardy tune to play an older Sergeant said, "The Letter Carrier."
Stay Safe, when you don’t hire enough police bring in the Mailmen.
Is Jose Santiago the fire commissioner or is he just filling in until Rahm's term is over; more than likely that is what it is. He only got that position because of his past skeletons and what he has on those that were involved with him. He doesn't have the real credentials for that job. Investigate his past to his present and you will blow the lid off his position.
Jose Santiago makes $200K a year plus his $150K pension. He's a sell-out and Rahm's puppet. 33 years on the job and he puts the knife in everybody's back for money. This guy has no shame, he's a Benedict Arnold, acts like he cares about the department. Did you see the changing of guards video and did you see him holding his laugh when Hoff left the department in the online video when he started to talk? Who do you think was behind Hoff getting booted? This guy is a sell-out and would do anything for money...
It's obvious the CFD commissioner didn't read the CFD contract before he issued that memo to the Department. Wow! And, he replaced Hoff? Look at what he did during the winter storm 2 years ago...? Another fiasco in the ruins. 33 years of experience in what...? Does this guy think he can't be replaced? He's an embarrassment to the CFD and Chicago altogether one fiasco after another.
And, when the lawsuits start..., they should go after the current pinhead Jose Santiago that put that request in writing which is on the internet. He's an idiot to put that in writing before reading the contract and talking to the Union about it before he made his mentally ill decision to slam the CFD with duties that they are not trained nor equipped for. Who's asshole is he sucking?!
http://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/chicago-fire-department-school-closures-safe-passage-207295461.html
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Wow can't believe all the bad/negative things being said about José Santiago. Seems like such a nice caring guy. A family man trying to make a living in such a crazy town. I sorta admire him. There's a lot of things I've had to do that aren't my job titles but you have to just to keep your job. Don't much agree to the FB being put on the spot and their safety.
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