Police Shooting in Englewood
The citizens can shoot, maim and kill each other with impunity, but the minute the police light up and offender armed with two guns, the usual suspects are up in arms:
- A 15-year-old boy was fatally shot by a Chicago police officer in the South Side's Englewood neighborhood Sunday night, authorities said.
A boy? Really Chicago Tribune? How about a boy with two guns?
- The shooting happened about 10:50 p.m. in the 6600 block of South Sangamon Street.
Pat Camden, a union spokesman for the Fraternal Order of Police, said officers assigned to a gang crimes unit heard gunfire in the area and spotted three people running as the officers responded.
Police pursued one of the runners, leaving their car and chasing him on foot down Sangamon Avenue, according to a preliminary statement from the Chicago Police Department's Office of News Affairs. During the foot chase, the runner turned towards the officers and pointed a gun at them, drawing fire from an officer, according to the statement.
Assailant:
- Family members rushed to the hospital after the shooting, said Niyah Lewis, who said she was Westley's cousin.
Lewis, 32, said the shooting happened shortly after the boy had been throwing a football in front of a Father's Day gathering at his grandmother's home.
Relatives were frustrated at the amount of information police were sharing with them, Lewis said.
"We know absolutely nothing," Lewis said.
Aw....tossing the football on Father's Day. How very Kennedy-esque. And no one knows anything - how about where the jagoff got two guns? And figured it's okay to point them at Police Officers?
- Westley was a high school freshman, said Irea Martin, 32, who said she was his aunt.
"We're not talking about a 17-year-old," Martin said. "We're talking about a kid."
While Lewis and Martin said witnesses had told relatives they had not seen Westley holding a gun, Camden said the boy had been carrying two weapons -- a .40-caliber handgun and a revolver tucked into his waistband.
We're going to imagine that no one is going to snitch out where jagoff got the guns or who he was carrying for.
Nice job by the involved Officers.
Nice job by the involved Officers.
Labels: shooting
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
69 Comments:
Stop killing my voting base !!!!
Murder Mayor
I like the fact that the FOP has a spokesman that probably does his best to tell the officer's side as much as the media will allow him to. Not some polished turd the department would parade in front of cameras.
Well as always, my kid would never do that. The fact is they are more than aware of what their kids are doing but just don't care. This is what society gets for a result when the parents are not there or not giving a rat's ass and let's the" street" raise the kid
The usual slanted and misleading headline pertaining to The Police.
Nothing but an artifice and a device to keep misdirected anti-Police outrage bubbling in certain segments of the city.
"Y'all always doing (ABC-XYX) to us/in our neighborhoods! We don't want y'all here anyway."
It's too much like journalistic integrity to state that the little mutt was armed and fleeing from The Police before he rolled his dice and got shit on with terminal effect.
Dead mutt making love to the pavement...
One gun at hand...
One gun recovered from the dead mutt's waist band...
These slanted, screaming headlines are a fucking menace to the safety of Policemen who are tasked with a shit-doo-doo job dealing with these hellish-assed, death, Devil and destruction loving shit-doo-doo upright walking creatures who like to point and discharge firearms at The Police.
It's a rotten, unsalvageable, non-assimilationist culture that is a stink in the nostrils of all decent and civilized men.
THIS... Is what the city has been given over to because of craven, wretched and hollow-assed career politicians are deathly afraid of the decent common sense man gaining his footing and taking his city back.
It's numbers... These misfits and their litter mates outnumber everybody else. Who in hell do you think Daley Inc. and Rahm & Co. were going to cater to?
Definitely not the poor slobs who swing their feet over the side of the bed every damned day for 20 to 40+ years trying to keep their heads over water to give their kids a foundation so they can stand a little taller and do a little better than the previous generation.
Rahm has said himself that he has no use for people who can think for themselves.
If you think for yourself, that means you might have strongly held beliefs and "traditions" that the North Shore Shit-Ass doesn't understand.
It fuels his animus... You're not "useful" to him or his agenda.
Every clacking wind-up set of dentures joyfully points out what The Police are doing "wrong" but the owners of said clacking wind-up dentures runs away from showing us the "correct" way to Police neighborhoods inhabited by creatures who worship death and destruction.
This city is destroyed beyond salvage for the regular guy.
"We're going to imagine that no one is going to snitch out where jagoff got the guns or who he was carrying for."
.....or where he was going and what was he going to do with the guns.
Hey, he just came from a relatives house "throwing a foot ball". Let's start there.
Q: how do those fat, old rats, seen lumbering through the alleys, in the wee hours, get to be fat and old?
A: they sacrifice their young.
Q: how did pee wee come to be double strapped?
A: just like rats, they sacrifice their young.
Q: what is the essential element defining the nature of the rat 'family'?
A: "We know absolutely nothing," Lewis said.
and there it is, folks.
change you can believe in.
Chalkie
This city is destroyed beyond salvage for the regular guy.
6/18/2013 03:24:00 AM
because the 'regular guy' takes it, up the ass, as if the 'regular guy' likes it.
not i, said the Little Red Hen.
("if any man will not work, never let him eat.")
Chalkie
Stop killing my voting base !!!!
Murder Mayor
6/18/2013 12:15:00 AM
make me.
Chalkie
I'm so sick of the ghetto getting all the police resources. Let them kill each other. No amount of money or vri is going to stop the killings
And where is Obama on this?? He can run to Newtown in a second but the killing field by his home he ignores??
Obama ain't done nothing for black people. That will be his legacy!!
Attention Citizens: Due to working the VRI
I ve become ......
a
PYLON!
Sorry to say but I find that the VRI has caused me to bring those Pylon like policing strategies / habits back to the district I am now sure that I will be better off just being visible and allowing dude to fester and go about his felonious business. It's just best as I get paid to do it and the best results are no results per this non proactive policing strategy .....like the New York PD!
Gives me more time in squad car to Gnarfle the Garthok
Beldar Conehead
I am happy and thankful that the officers were able to go home safely. Please be careful because the residents of that community could care less about your safety. But please don't forget that there are still neighborhoods in Chicago where the citizens care about and support our officers. Thank you.
Let me guess ? No crime lab ....again!
Yep. It ticks me off how slanted things are. It's Ok we get shot and have a glorious funeral and leave our children without fathers and mothers, but the minute we do a justified shooting, we have egg on our face and the felon was an angel. I am sure wishing someday America would stop living by that famous river of denial.
To: 6/18/2013 03:24:00 AM --> Bravo!!! Bravo!!!
"We're not talking about a 17-year-old," Martin said. "We're talking about a kid."
Right! He was obviously 15 1/2!
Withdrawal police from Englewood. Its a lost cause.
one less animal out there committing armed violence.....
Where are the Alfa girls and tactical barbie???? We need them to show us how it's done!!!!! Come on save the city from this gripping violence with your superior training.
The officer is okay and that is the most important thing. He did a very good job and we are all proud of him. Also the officer is not assigned to a gang crimes unit he is assigned to the afternoon mission team in 007.
Good fucking riddance.
WGN identified his mother as "Victims Mother" under her name. I'm sorry, he wasn't a victim. WGN is a POS liberal rag news service.
This is a bad situation, no doubt, but I have to pick a nit with your phrasing:
"The citizens can shoot, maim and kill each other with impunity...."
First, cops are citizens too. I hope so, anyway; if you're not, things are worse in Old Windy than I thought.
Second, the only "citizens" who can shoot with impunity are the thugs and wastrels. Citizens who are, by and large, law abiding can't even get the guns they'd need to do any shooting.
I'll also add that in a reasonable system, any shooting, whether by cop, homeowner, gangbanger, should properly be investigated in pretty much the same way. Unless there's clear evidence of criminal intent, the presumption should be self-defense.
Working towards that would go a long way towards restoring the public's faith in and respect for the police.
"The police are the public, and the public are the police," it says here, and that works both ways.
Gang on gang shooting's people of all ages pulling guns on police and paying the price I see nothing wrong with these people killing each other and people being shot by Police for their actions they are doing Chicago a favor ridding it of the lice that infect our town.getting rid [no confidence] of the mayor and Police supt. would also act favorably here.
great job officer. i hope you don't feel bad for doing your job well. these savages will never learn nor do they care to. it is either them or us and it will never be us. great job in 007 as usual.
Hey the Trib continues to portray this little piece of shit Chief Keef as some sort of hero. All their left leaning crap will end when the Koch brothers take over.
the family absolutely knows what the kid is about and knows more than they lead on. they are like shitty politicians and lie immediately and are already playing the "lawsuit" angle. great job in englewood.
Can we pull out of there? Like we were supposed to do in Afghanistan?
It's a failed mission. They don't want us, and we sure as shit don't want them.
SCC,the description of "Kennedy-esque" is beautiful. We're tossing a football around just like we do while vacationing at Cape Cod.
Screw Englewood, I don't give one good shit about Englewood.
The whole place can go up in flames and I would sleep soundly.
What about the Blackhawks? Where is Carcillo? Jeez, they are knocking Bickel around like a rag doll. It's like they fed loads of valium to the entire Blackhawk team. Any time now guys you can start playing hard.
And stick Carcillo in there and tell him to go hurt some people.
CPD should shout out some nine point-five gang slogans and flash political party gang symbols before they pull the trigger. Then it will be okay I would suppose.
Or perhaps shout -- OH-LEE, OH-LEE, OCEAN FREE-FREE-FREE! Before the BANG-BANG-BANG.
This place is a joke.
Somehow Rahm still has $2,000,000 leftover from NATO that he's giving to the Bloomingdale Trail project, now called "The 606".
That could have funded two more Tio's and all crime would be solved.
Throwing a football won't get you killed, pointing a gun at the police will.
Obama in Africa, Rahm in Israel. We're on the front lines risking our lives and yep, still no contract.
why leave your car to pursue the shitheads? screw them...stay safe....the neighborhood doesn't deserve your diligence.
Sheeple don't know Camden works for FOP they think he is still working for the city.
I have a suggestion if the police are the problem why don't we just take the police out of engle wood. Nice job officer,but I have to say unless it's a real victim or the police I will not chase a animal in the ghetto. We need officers like you in 16, 8, 18, taking care of tax paying citizens who actually appreciate us
Whole hood went up after the incident, many arrests made. Where is media on that? Also why nothing on PPO in 006 beaten and disarmed?
OT- I might stir up a hornets nest with my comment, but had an idea someone surely thought of, but I haven't seen it pop up here. With regards to residency, what if they did something provisionally where in our contract we were allowed after a certain amount of years on the job to reside outside of the city? I understand that if they just blanket lifted it that property value would go down, however if they said after say 6 or 7 years on the job you could reside outside of the city, you would always have an influx of new officers that need city addresses and you'd have a less disgruntled older work force. The rotation of new cops buying senior cops homes would be perfect. No homes would lose value this way and adter you've been on awhile, you could move your family outside of the city. This is just a thought. It would be nice I see some momentum going with the residency talks after all the things they want us to give up. It would be a no brainier.
The usual slanted and misleading headline pertaining to The Police.
Nothing but an artifice and a device to keep misdirected anti-Police outrage bubbling in certain segments of the city.
"Y'all always doing (ABC-XYX) to us/in our neighborhoods! We don't want y'all here anyway."
It's too much like journalistic integrity to state that the little mutt was armed and fleeing from The Police before he rolled his dice and got shit on with terminal effect.
Dead mutt making love to the pavement...
One gun at hand...
One gun recovered from the dead mutt's waist band...
These slanted, screaming headlines are a fucking menace to the safety of Policemen who are tasked with a shit-doo-doo job dealing with these hellish-assed, death, Devil and destruction loving shit-doo-doo upright walking creatures who like to point and discharge firearms at The Police.
It's a rotten, unsalvageable, non-assimilationist culture that is a stink in the nostrils of all decent and civilized men.
THIS... Is what the city has been given over to because of craven, wretched and hollow-assed career politicians are deathly afraid of the decent common sense man gaining his footing and taking his city back.
It's numbers... These misfits and their litter mates outnumber everybody else. Who in hell do you think Daley Inc. and Rahm & Co. were going to cater to?
Definitely not the poor slobs who swing their feet over the side of the bed every damned day for 20 to 40+ years trying to keep their heads over water to give their kids a foundation so they can stand a little taller and do a little better than the previous generation.
Rahm has said himself that he has no use for people who can think for themselves.
If you think for yourself, that means you might have strongly held beliefs and "traditions" that the North Shore Shit-Ass doesn't understand.
It fuels his animus... You're not "useful" to him or his agenda.
Every clacking wind-up set of dentures joyfully points out what The Police are doing "wrong" but the owners of said clacking wind-up dentures runs away from showing us the "correct" way to Police neighborhoods inhabited by creatures who worship death and destruction.
This city is destroyed beyond salvage for the regular guy.
By far the best post I have ever read on this site. Pulitizer Prize winning stuff right here. Well done by whoever authored it.
Rahm and every other politician knows the police are to stupid to stick together.
All that bullshit you will be dragged through because of that lil savage.
Sheeple don't know Camden works for FOP they think he is still working for the city.
6/18/2013 12:28:00 PM
what happened?
you began making a point, i presume, then?
did you flush it, and then realized, 'oh shit, there goes the rest of my thought!'?
Pat was the polished voice of the police department for many years.
I like him better with the FOP.
Go Orange.
what a bunch of shit. why is it the media always eats up the "throwing the football" crap, but when a police spokesman says that the jagoff had two guns, it's seen as slander. Ask his auntie how she would describe a 15 year old that stuck a gun in her face to steal the money she bin saving for a forty and some lottery tickets.
a kid my ass.
OT- I might stir up a hornets nest with my comment, but had an idea someone surely thought of, but I haven't seen it pop up here. With regards to residency, what if they did something provisionally where in our contract we were allowed after a certain amount of years on the job to reside outside of the city? I understand that if they just blanket lifted it that property value would go down, however if they said after say 6 or 7 years on the job you could reside outside of the city, you would always have an influx of new officers that need city addresses and you'd have a less disgruntled older work force. The rotation of new cops buying senior cops homes would be perfect. No homes would lose value this way and adter you've been on awhile, you could move your family outside of the city. This is just a thought. It would be nice I see some momentum going with the residency talks after all the things they want us to give up. It would be a no brainier
Only problem I see is that the new officers that need homes would need thjose homes whether or not senior officers were allowed to live outside the city. Plus about my guess would be 90 plus % of the new officers already reside in the city. Dont see alot of out of towners and suburbanites applying for the CPD
Whole hood went up after the incident, many arrests made. Where is media on that? Also why nothing on PPO in 006 beaten and disarmed?
Maybe because it didn't happen?
6/18/2013 05:45:00 AM
"Work or STARVE!"
Captain John Smythe
Plymouth Colony
Massachusetts
-1620-
Refusing to be constructive was considered treason and a hanging offense.
The Captain was righteously unmerciful toward slackers and non-contributors.
No doubt he gives thanks even in his grave that he lived and died in his time and place instead of 21st century Chicago, Illinois.
The yellow-pinky moon-bats, their catered to constituency and the media butt-sluts would have the good Captain publicly hung by the neck in his weight in chains for uttering such "heresy" in today's politically correct, knee-walking, accomodationist, wine sipping cheese nibbling surrender-monkey climate.
"You guys are just mad because it isn't 1960 anymore... Get over it... We're enlightened now and don't need you old gray-haired, angry dinosaurs anymore."
Only in Chicago is a man judged as being wrong for being so "uncharitable" for not wanting a non-contributory m/fer to reap a dividend from the sweat of HIS brow while m/fers like Rahm & Co. actively destroy OUR standard of living in order to make us "equal" to the mutts spreading shit, violence and death throughout this city.
Chicago Politics 101...
Bust everything and everyone down to the least common denominator.
No matter how many people get their lives and finances destroyed in the process.
Chicago is being "re-booted."
It's called not letting a crisis go to waste...
Hail Rahm...
The last shit-ass to say "Let them eat cake" was guillotined for her stinkin' thinkin'.
Rahm has his $18 million so fuck you for not being like him...
Not sayin...
Just sayin!
Hawks and Bruin fans are seen hanging around after games shouting we want the cup. Why aren't we along with our union reps, "who should be organizing this" marching around city hall down the street from the new construction of Maggie Daly park shouting we want a contract? (because we don't have any balls) sorry ladies...
Anonymous said...
OT- I might stir up a hornets nest with my comment, but had an idea someone surely thought of, but I haven't seen it pop up here. With regards to residency, what if they did something provisionally where in our contract we were allowed after a certain amount of years on the job to reside outside of the city? I understand that if they just blanket lifted it that property value would go down, however if they said after say 6 or 7 years on the job you could reside outside of the city, you would always have an influx of new officers that need city addresses and you'd have a less disgruntled older work force. The rotation of new cops buying senior cops homes would be perfect. No homes would lose value this way and adter you've been on awhile, you could move your family outside of the city. This is just a thought. It would be nice I see some momentum going with the residency talks after all the things they want us to give up. It would be a no brainier.
6/18/2013 01:35:00 PM
But mr. Wizard you think the new coppers would buy homes? I think not! They would rent and then leave this shithole in 7 years! A no brainier? Perhaps!
A big thanks the Harwood Heights PD for extending the police courtesy on Saturday!
He received the guns from his kids for Fathers Day.
Anonymous said...
WGN identified his mother as "Victims Mother" under her name. I'm sorry, he wasn't a victim. WGN is a POS liberal rag news service.
6/18/2013 08:39:00 AM
Amen to that. They shitcanned the one conservative radio guy on the station, Milt Rosenberg.
Milt is now doing a podcast that is at:
http://www.miltrosenberg.com/
Fuck flger and his bassetbaw league that ARCH of Chicago is paying for. And fuck his adopted bangin sons one which was kilt in some bangin shit. Send his ass to another Parish like all priests after 3 yrs in one. Who the fuck is he?
Regardless of the animal's age, if the animal has a gun and points it at the police he is going to get shot. The world is a better place without this useless piece of feces stealing oxygen. You won't be missed by anyone who matters. Good job officers, thank God you're OK..
I was on scene shortly after the shooting and the offender had a glock 40cal with and extended magazine which carries about 30 rounds but the media wont mention anything about that.
Damn! One less vote for the democratic socialist machine!
Anonymous said...
OT- I might stir up a hornets nest with my comment, but had an idea someone surely thought of, but I haven't seen it pop up here. With regards to residency, what if they did something provisionally where in our contract we were allowed after a certain amount of years on the job to reside outside of the city? I understand that if they just blanket lifted it that property value would go down, however if they said after say 6 or 7 years on the job you could reside outside of the city, you would always have an influx of new officers that need city addresses and you'd have a less disgruntled older work force. The rotation of new cops buying senior cops homes would be perfect. No homes would lose value this way and adter you've been on awhile, you could move your family outside of the city. This is just a thought. It would be nice I see some momentum going with the residency talks after all the things they want us to give up. It would be a no brainier.
6/18/2013 01:35:00 PM
How the fuck would property values go down if you sold your house and moved? You won't abandon your house and move, you would SELL IT and move and the next owner would pay taxes just like you do. Do you really think the property value rests on how many police live in an area?
Grow the fuck up and use your head. You're not that important in the big picture.
Lie to me! Lie to them! But don't lie to yourself! It's easy to understand how parent and relatives will believe what they want and not even have an inkling of a doubt that maybe the police are just doing their jobs and don't really want to shoot a poor kid running from them,but shouldn't you really know what your children are doing or are possibles doing, in gangs or carrying weapons,selling drugs ect,please don't lie to yourselves people!
10:28pm, you missed the point completely. You must have nothing but lint between your two ears. If we don't count in the big picture then why the FUCK do we still have residency in place? Boy are you a softball...
It's a cyclical 7, who's gonna rent? You ain't gonna make your money back.. So who's the wizard....
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
OT- I might stir up a hornets nest with my comment, but had an idea someone surely thought of, but I haven't seen it pop up here. With regards to residency, what if they did something provisionally where in our contract we were allowed after a certain amount of years on the job to reside outside of the city? I understand that if they just blanket lifted it that property value would go down, however if they said after say 6 or 7 years on the job you could reside outside of the city, you would always have an influx of new officers that need city addresses and you'd have a less disgruntled older work force. The rotation of new cops buying senior cops homes would be perfect. No homes would lose value this way and adter you've been on awhile, you could move your family outside of the city. This is just a thought. It would be nice I see some momentum going with the residency talks after all the things they want us to give up. It would be a no brainier.
6/18/2013 01:35:00 PM
How the fuck would property values go down if you sold your house and moved? You won't abandon your house and move, you would SELL IT and move and the next owner would pay taxes just like you do. Do you really think the property value rests on how many police live in an area?
Grow the fuck up and use your head. You're not that important in the big picture.
6/18/2013 10:28:00 PM
Don't belittle someone when you don't know what you're talking about.
If several thousand Chicago police officers dumped their homes on the market at bargain basement prices just so they could get out of Dodge, real estate prices would fall dramatically. Additionally, a certain percentage would abandon 'underwater' properties and let the banks deal with it.
Lower real estate values would be recorded. Taxes on lower property values would be lower, as a result. New construction would grind to a halt, because of the glut of existing properties suddenly appearing in the market.
You're right: one person isn't all that important. But thousands of people making that move all in two or three calendar quarters would certainly make an impact and the ripple effect on real estate reporting, financial reporting, lower county tax stamp payments, lower income buyers getting a foothold in established neighborhoods... well, that's a significant impact. Add in the teachers, CFD, streeta and san, because any residency deal WE get will ultimately go to them, as well. It would be a tsunami.
Old man Daley knew exactly what he was doing when he required us to live in the city. He got a guaranteed tax base and a measure of stability in a number of neighborhoods. A mass exodus would cause a lot of financial upheaval now, at a time when the city is struggling to maintain its income levels. The City will strenuously fight a move like this right now, guaranteed.
I'm not saying I agree with the rule, just saying this is why your argument (both of you) doesn't fly.
Grow the fuck up and use your head. You're not that important in the big picture.
6/18/2013 10:28:00 PM
_________________
You take your head out of you ass right now. Some of the best neighborhoods in this city are occupied by mostly city workers! Granted not all cops, but firefighters, teachers, streets and san, and I want you to name some of the neighborhood s. If you cant, you didn't grow up up here you suburban pos. City workers care about their neighborhoods and their homes they have to live in and don't take any shit from trash that moves in. CPD is expected to give them professional courtesy in exchange for the people in the neighborhood keeping their eyes and ears open.
of course nobody will abandon their house! the property value will be much higher when they sell. Gfy :-)
Have a nice day!
How in the hell do any of these gangbangers keep anything in their waistbands when their pants are around their thighs? At least their dress code keeps them from running as fast as they could if they wore their pants normally--maybe that's why he had a gun in his hand, because he was worried about it falling outta his pants.
Racist police!
Mama just mad because now one of her checks will stop coming!
Conceal carry is alive and well in Englewood...may Junebug rest in peace...
It is interesting since Richie started resettling "Section 8" people in the suburbs to scatter the problem children that crime has gone up substantially in some of the suburbs despite better parks and schools and after school programs. You can take the crackheads and gangbangers out of the ghetto, but you cannot take the ghetto of the crackheads and gangbangers.
Liberal Evanston constantly strives to underreport the raging criminality taking place in the city while doling out more taxpayer funded subsidies and programs to the gangbangers who vote for the Democrats. Last week, the cover was blown when a Evanston aldercreature witnessed recreational gunfire while traveling in the vicinity of the crime plagued Evanston Township High School. Until seeing it firsthand, this political enabler was in official denial about crime in the North suburb.
Hey, what's the difference if you're retired and sell to a younger cop than if you were able to live outside the city after 7 years and you sold to a younger cop! People retire and move out of the city all the time. At least you wouldn't be running to the suburbs and taking a loss on your house or taking whatever you can get just to get out. With 2.7 million people in Chicago, city workers are a teardrop in the ocean anyway. Don't belittle the rest of tax paying Chicago by saying city workers are the tax base.
Was he an honor student?
That's really the only thing I want to know.
How the fuck would property values go down if you sold your house and moved? You won't abandon your house and move, you would SELL IT and move and the next owner would pay taxes just like you do. Do you really think the property value rests on how many police live in an area?
Grow the fuck up and use your head. You're not that important in the big picture.
6/18/2013 10:28:00 PM
Ask anyone that lived on the west side before the 60s that question. You'll have your answer.
Don't belittle the rest of tax paying Chicago by saying city workers are the tax base.
Im not, but look at the neighborhood s where a majority of city workers live. That is the point. We all pay taxes brother, one of the two things you have to do on life. It always cracks me up when non city workers tell other non city workers (with some smugness) "yeah, my neighbor is a cop/fire fighter (or other city worker depending which rich city employees the media and rahm bash) and I heard the real story from them and ..."
Not tax base, but have seen enough of this city to know where we don't want to live. Follow us and you'll be in a respectable neighborhood.
Ask anyone that lived on the west side before the 60s that question. You'll have your answer.
...oe Englewood, or Roseland, or West Pullman, or Chicago Lawn...it goes on and on.
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