Fair, Impartial and Totally Secret
Last week we posted this:
- If you're interested, and you should be, the charges filed against the FOP President regarding "the letter" not being filed despite repeated warnings to do so, will be heard by his own hand-picked committee this evening at 1700 hours.
Outrage to be vented shortly thereafter.
Shortly afterward, we received word that the hearing was delayed one week until today, 29 October without explanation.
Now comes word that the entire hearing is closed to the membership. Board members only.
We're going to go out on a limb here and say that this is outrageous. Anyone disagree?
Now comes word that the entire hearing is closed to the membership. Board members only.
We're going to go out on a limb here and say that this is outrageous. Anyone disagree?
Labels: FOP
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
176 Comments:
All we can do is Vote Shields the hell out. Vote for anyone but Shields. Do not tolerate this shit. He fucked the members bad with something so basic and simple. We may lose big $$$ on his fuck up
Richie Daley would be proud!
He's one and done!
He should step down voluntarily. If not he along with the rest of the veteran fop board members that knew about it and let it happen, all need to get voted out.
Hey, this is Chicago. What would you expect?
Outrageous?
No, this is Chicago. Shit like this is the NORM.
Mike, I feel bad because you had serious potential.
I don't know what you're going to do after you get ousted as FOP President. But just a helpful hint: Don't come back to this job.
Outrageous, ridiculous, and not totally surprising.
Yes. This is for the best. Could this cannibalism not be postponed until after the battle?
yeah, its complete BS. Why even hold the meeting, charges dismissed. I guess its something so little mikey can say look a panel said I was right.. UMMMM, mike, you picked them. What do you think they will say???? Mike, glad to see you at the sgts test, you will need it considering you wont be the president for much longer. later stroke boy!!
This is outrageous!
Talk about a lack of transparency. I saw Mike taking the Sgt. exam. He looked like a deer caught in the headlights.
I believe he realizes he is destined to be the first one term FOP President. We know we are going to get 8% over the term of the contract. Let's just settle the contract and move forward.
Who ever is the next FOP President will have to clean up the mess. I wish Mike well in his future endeavors, but he has made a mockery of the whole FOP electoral process. Not re-electing some members of the FOP Board would be a disservice, because of Mike's actions. However, the inside individuals are all culpable given they needed to provide leadership. The letter should have been sent, but it is time to move forward.
Dougherity is not the answer! He is part of the problem - not the solution!
Motion to fix your honor.
Does a closed MTG violate any fop rules or state laws? Let's all still show up at 5.let's call the media this morning
Not only will I vote for anyone but shields, but it might be time to decertify the FOP as the group representing rank and file below Sgt.
Shields was told by board members to mail the letter. He is on record stating he was told. Other members also reminded him. He failed us. He failed us and I hope it was not intentional. I would hate to think a fellow copper would screw over thousands of fellow coppers. Unfortunately his mistake was too major for him to be voted in again. Maybe he was promised something???
Sounds like it is the way things are done in Chicago, and in Washington D.C.
Just keep paying your Dues!!!
:)! love Shields Capparelli
Surprised Not!!!! Corruption has a place in all Chicago welcome aboard !!!!!!!
OT: Fall Back. Turn your clock BACK.
Daylight Savings Time ends this weekend, Sunday morning, 03 November at 0200hrs
Don't forget, or else you're going to get to work an hour early Sunday morning.
OMG so he messed up, let's move on. Every other president has made major errors and we never said a word. Get over it.
Divide and conquer ................ and the Mayor smiles.
I disagree. If the bylaws allow it then it's all good. Tell me you wouldn't use whatever advantage you had if you were in his shoes. You are a liar if you say you wouldn't.
And then we have this idiot;
Anonymous said .......Does a closed MTG violate any fop rules or state laws? Let's all still show up at 5.let's call the media this morning
10/29/2013 02:37:00 AM
Hate to break it you big dreamer but you and no one else mouthing off here have the stones tod o anything but cry and talk a big game here. Been to an FOP meeting lately? Yea, didn't think so. Call the media,HAHAHAHAHA !!!!! Guys like you were too lazy to vote when you got the ballot in the mail and NOW you're gonna call the media AND show up at the FOP. The fact remains that not YOU AND NOBODY ELSE HAS LOST ONE RED CENT OR BEEN FINANCIALLY HARMED BECUASE OF 'THE LETTER'. You jumped on the bandwagon of the guys that are trying to get their own crew in office next election. You allowed and helped them divide our ranks. And just like typical ignorant uneducated goofs you took the bait. By not sticking together and standing by your union you goofs are slitting your own throats. Typical shortsighted coppers dangle that retro over your head and you guys will sell your own mothers to get it. And Tinydancer is laying back laughing his ass off planning his next move.
Until you and everyone else that has a problem with the way things are done / allowed and actually vote, go to meetings, get involved and run or support candidates that you think Are better, hit the snooze button junior and go back to sleep and dream about that almighty retro check that you and everyone else think is the end of the world. Open your damned eyes and look at the big picture. Or are you just gonna jump on the bandwagon and help destroy yourself.?? I know the answer to that question already. I can't wait to see what you kiddies do when they hammer your pension. That's coming right after you blind sheep have your healthcare as you now know it also taken away from you. Jackasses.
Shields has to go. Also, everyone one the board has to go. Don't give me the line that "so and so is a good guy". NO, they all have to go. All of them knew about sending out the letter. Yet they didn't do a damn thing. They allowed this travesty to happen. During a meeting someone asked the entire board why they didn't step up to the plate and hand the letter over to Shields and have him sign it. No one on the board said anything. We need fresh faces who have honor. Which none of these current board members have.
Anonymous said...
Shields was told by board members to mail the letter. He is on record stating he was told. Other members also reminded him. He failed us. He failed us and I hope it was not intentional. I would hate to think a fellow copper would screw over thousands of fellow coppers. Unfortunately his mistake was too major for him to be voted in again. Maybe he was promised something???
10/29/2013 03:27:00 AM
So what prevented the board members from drafting the letter? Then taking it to Shield's desk and insist he sign off on it right now? Then they just had to mail it out. What stopped them? The board is just as bad as Shields. They are all playing games and we are the losers. Shields has to go and everyone else too.
Agreed! After Sheilds loses the election, he will take a position in Obama's administration.
I voted for Bella!
NYPD here. Holy shyte what a sham!
teamsters!!!!!!!
Dean is not the answer either. Dean Jr is currently on the bioard, I have heard no opposition from him at all, makes you wonder.
Not only will I vote for anyone but shields, but it might be time to decertify the FOP as the group representing rank and file below Sgt.
Your either a moron, or a fifth floor lackey
Per Roberts Rules of Order , all Charges Committee Hearings are held in Executive Session. This it how it has been done in the past, and is proper and correct.
This guy just doesn't get it. It's a shame that this classless fuck may drag some of the quality guys down with him. Aguilar, Dougherty, and Gorman have done a good job under horrendous conditions bred by this know it all punk Shields.
I have known this little jagoff for years. Nobody cantell him anything. He was told to send the letter and ddidn't. You're all coppers. Look at the facts. The February 2012 meeting minutes indicate he told everyone he was going to send the letter. His ex-secretary said the letter was done before the deadline, but he didn't send it. Read his apology newsletter article. He says he would have done things differently had he known what Rahm's response was going to be. That demonstrates it was a conscious decision not to send it.
We shouldn't get rid of the experienced guys because of one incompetent asshole. We need experienced guys to run this thing. The fresh faces thing just didn't work. Shields is living proof.
He still has an ace in the hole if he has the guts to pull it off. DO NOT BACK OFF THE RESIDENCY STIPEND MIKE! It will change the labor/employee bargaining rights landscape in this city for decades. Rahm Emanuel is a man who will use every trick in the book to achieve his goals. Make HIM choose between giving us more money to live in a city we increasingly can't afford or dropping the residency requirement for city employees.
Who said only that only board members are allowed at the hearing?
MS claims that the BYLAWS are sacrosanct and we should follow every word.
The bylaws do not say that the rest of the membership cannot attend a hearing.
It is a rumor only.
How can the Chicago Way be so corrupt, yet work so well? Look at the CPD, despite everything, it is very efficient, gets the bad guys and just plain works.
Point of order: the hearing for Harold Brown and Ron Shogren was open to the membership. Now, We're denied access to Shield's hearing. Something is afoot at the circle-K!
Everyone please show up for this kangaroo court. No Taxation without representation. The SS FOP is sinking fast with all the Captains at the helm.
Call FoP!
well we are governed by rules and according to Roberts Rules, disciplinary hearings are in executive session which board members only can be present, RUN FOR A BOARD POSITION. THIS SHOULD OUTRAGE EVERYONE TO MAKE PEOPLE GET INVOLVED!!!!!!
Both members of the board and Shields have to go. The members of the board are just as guilty as Shields. They all knew how important the letter was, but they just told him. Then when they knew Shields wasn't going to send out the letter why is it that no one stepped up to the plate? Not one of them. Members remember to vote all of them out.
After reading all the stuff about Shields, it sounds like he has to go. (I don't think he is the only one to blame as far as not getting the letter out though. What about all the guys who have been in FOP leadership positions with more time in??)
BUT -- who did Shields replace??? You weren't too happy with the previous regime either. This time, get some people who you think will do a good job. (Maybe all new people)
Shields served his purpose - you were able to get rid of the previous group, so just continue.
Get a new group - hopefully better than Shields (and better than the previous group)
FOP is not worth anything if they are a bunch of sellouts. If you can see that from the outside, you should be able to see it as a member. Vote wisely next time.
Not a LEO, JAFO
Vote them all out but don't forget that Rahm is fucking us out of retro pay as well. He has the power to make Shield's fuck up right and he's choosing not to do so!
Mikey was in line for the sergeants exam.
I noticed he was not grab assing like he normally does.
Membership should be scared all Mikey has to do is cave in on a few things and BAM he could be the Next desk sergeant at Narcotics.
The boys got zero ethic and is showing he is corrupt.
Mikey they are going to record the meeting again and post it to you-tube. Nobody is investigating your FOP drama.
It sounds like the transparency that we were promised with Obama. LOL
It's a Police State on the police.
You clowns voted him into office. Pay the price.
Where are the rest of the Board members ? Did they vote to approve keeping the mebership locked out of their own union hall ? Where is Dougherty in all this ? He is the first VP. He is supposed to be in charge when the President is not taking care of business. Did he vote to keep this a secret meeting ?
Has Bill made a deal with Shields ?
Is there a good spot for Shields as FOP Past President? Did Dougherty arrainge this ? Is it going to be another three years of Dougherty and Geiger ? Through them all out !
Bill D is certainty not the answer. All three VP should be responsible too and voted out!
Its all legit folks,just like the Sgts test....really.
Geiger . . Geiger . . . Geiger ! ! ! Ooooops, zero rule sorry.
Los Angeles, New York, Miami and Dallas all have gangsters, but Chicago is a "Gangster City".
They all dropped the ball at FOP. I say they all go!!
Can't wait for the outcome on this one.
Remember, Carlos Cortez is the only one with balls to take on the shadow Shields monarchy. Detractors will say shit like Morman lover, this, or that, but in the end Cortez's leadership with his team is the cure.
Institutional knowledge failed us all. Anyone connected with Shields via (appointment to Board by him), or trustee that didn't speak up (ie: only the FTO and ex-pres said they told Shields), or long time leadership that did not bring charges against Shields will be canned.
Again, some unit rep 6 months back (younger tall guy with glasses that speaks up at a lot of meetings/ don't know name/ sorry) asked how many lawsuits FOP was involved in; and it showed that the reason FOP was in a legal mess was because of Shields and Team's collective egos.
Notify National and state FOP...
Mike Shields is GONE!
No Vote from me!
In true Chicago style, it's all LEGIT!!
After we vote him out shields will be rewarded with an exempt promotion by those he really works for.
Geez, why even bother with the charade then? Let's see where Mike ends up afterwards. 010 on days? 009 on 3rd watch? No, doubt it. I really feel sorry for the coppers who have no plans outside CPD and have to work to 63.
Can we take this to the national FOP? Surely there has to be an avenue of protest....
Now comes word that the entire hearing is closed to the membership. Board members only.
Not to worry.
Big Moe will again secrete his recorder and all of you unable to attend will be able to listen to the meeting in its entirety just as soon as our In-House Rats post it on YouTube.
We've instructed Big Moe to back off the mic so over modulation isn't an issue this time around.
How about postponing this "one and done" cannibalism until after the contract battle is settled? Slash and burn is not the way to go. Put the anger aside and let's be rational. We know we are going to get 8% over the term of the contract. Let's just settle the contract and be happy it isn't less than 8% and then move forward.
http://youtu.be/EP4Ai2fy3yA
http://youtu.be/zOQ5id2guZ4
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Outrageous?
No, this is Chicago. Shit like this is the NORM.
Mike, I feel bad because you had serious potential.
I don't know what you're going to do after you get ousted as FOP President. But just a helpful hint: Don't come back to this job.
10/29/2013 12:54:00 AM
Yes let us see where Mike goes after being voted out. Either he is too stupid that he fucked up and he has to walk back to the job with his tail between his legs or we will see him in his new position in a different field as promised for fucking over his brothers and sisters in blue thus making him an evil snake for making a deal with the devil.
If he is a stand up guy he SHOULD step down.
No one was angry at Doherty and Donahue when they turned down a 16% raise and accepted 10%. No one was mad when Donahue and Doherty forgave 23 million in city indebtedness to the pension fund.
They were on the FOP board for prior negotiations and should have seen to it that the letter was sent. Now they are going to use the mayor's negotiating ploy to bash one of the only Labor Leaders to stand up to the mayor. Remember where Shields was on Huberman, DV Urban Realty, Ariel Capital, Billboards to decry understaffing, Funding, etc. Doherty and Donahue are all about Doherty and Donahue.
Carlos Cortez will get in because he brought up the charges. He promised two meetings ago he was bring charges on the whole executive board before the end of that week. He did not so Carlos either got bought off with a spot on some else's ticket or was grand standing.
Will BD finally man up to his malfeasance or just threaten to beat up anyone who disagrees with him.
Will KG - 56 short - call the media wh@re as soon as the meeting is over.
Will JM still keep taping meeting w/o letting anyone know? It's leagl if you let everyone else know. It's pimpy the way your doing it.
What will disability Dean's kid do at the meeting? Keeping Mike in the race divides the vote even more. DA can't beat BD one-on-one unless the race has five or six candidates.
Will Mikey finally throw at least one of these backstabbers out of office?
When will everyone realize Markie Mark was pulling the puppet strings in the coup all along. Steve Robbins will not give up who put him up to throwing all the retirees out of the union. He never said it's all my idea. His hard on is that he lost the vote for pension rep.
Will Markie Mark run for trustee after he wanted every retiree out of the union? I guess he can't live on his pension plus the 75k he needs to squeeze an couple of hundred bucks a month more out of the union.
Anonymous said...
Yes. This is for the best. Could this cannibalism not be postponed until after the battle?
10/29/2013 01:10:00 AM
I couldn't agree more. Let's get this contract done first and then the heads can start rolling. A house divided against itself cannot stand.
Scc Roberts rules of order. It is legal.
The City is Crap to US and Our So called "Union" is run by Crap It's No Wonder we get Crap Keep Paying your Dues!!!!
*See a pattern???
Off topic. But there was another attempted "child luring" incident in 16 @ 6000w touhy. Wtf.
Anonymous said...
Does a closed MTG violate any fop rules or state laws? Let's all still show up at 5.let's call the media this morning
10/29/2013 02:37:00 AM
Read the by-laws and get back to us.
This is a great example of the pony show they call our FOP. We will not get an adequate raise just like last time and yes they will take things away from us that we fought so hard to keep. If you guys think this was an oversight on Shields part you are fooling yourself. This was a well planned out move by the Mayor and our dear President.
Just hold on its going to get much worst they are already crying that they have no money for the Pension and we are a bunch of lazy ungrateful police officers. Just wait until they actually start negotiating your contract. Get ready to take it right up the ass as usual nothing new same old shit ...........
Took Sgts. test. Sounds like someone gave rahm a wink and a nod.
What ever happens with this drama, we can't settle on the contract, it has to go to arbitration. If we settle, rhamo can fuck us on the pension because we are agreeing to his terms, an arbitrator cannot rule on pebsion issues bc its a contitutional amendment and only the legislature can rule on that unless we agree to get fucked. Thanks mike. The older coppers know about this but the younger ones might just be thinking money and its actually about their future
Wonder if Huberman will show up with the media....
Payback is a bitch...
Sometimes I do not care for being a Sgt. But then I see what the FOP does to you and I breathe a sigh of relief. Then I see what the PBPA does to me and I cry a little.
Union business in not for public knowledge, or even the knowledge of the rank and file members. Union business must be kept secret and on a strict need to know basis.
How many PO's were going to show up anyway?
Shields and the whole board need to go bye bye. also donahue and his $75,000.00 per for his sage advice and other nonsense we pay him for.
fair share?
Shields is toast . He doesn't stand a snowballs chance in Hell of getting re-elected.
Seen him at the exam also. He was laughing and making fun of cops that passed his aisle. I was outraged thinking this whole time he is laughing and having a great time while we have to eat crap because of his actions or in this case non actions. He was making fun of proctor actually being biased towards the man's gender? Not too smart showing your in the public eye. You can save your comments and be professional. Put a kid to do a man's job. Ignorant, self centered j off. We are our own worst enemies. We put him in office and now must eat shit for it.
The meeting is open to all members. Who gave the info that it wasn't? Only for consultation will the panel of three go into closed session. Cortez's testimony/evidence and Shield's defense has to be in an open forum. It's the Robert's rule of order!
OT ..dow record close .. deferred thru the roof. Glad I stuck with equities when all the so called experts at work panicked and got out in 09. Tripled to quad my money.. wow
Please post.
Closing arguments in the trial of the beast who murdered PO Francis will be in Room 400 on Oct 30.
Let me guess nobody on the board fought this?
Sidney the retired Davis whose only job is to take note will not know
who voted for what?
Who motioned to have a closed meeting?
What members on the board stated?
Naw its all Mikey wet behind the ears fault.
Good luck in retirement FOP board you showed us what wanna be Alderman look like!
All we can do is Vote Shields the hell out. Vote for anyone but Shields. Do not tolerate this shit. He fucked the members bad with something so basic and simple. We may lose big $$$ on his fuck up
10/29/2013 12:12:00 AM
NOOOOOOO!!!!
We cant just "vote for anyone but Shields"
We NEED, hell, we DESERVE a good President! Not just "Anyone". "Anyone" might turn out to be an Idiot.
SOMEONE needs to toss their hat into the ring that know what they are doing! And that doesn't mean "a great Cop." We Deserve someone that knows Union By-laws, Contract Law, Finance, and the Politics of this City.
That's what we DESERVE!
Anonymous said...
No one was angry at Doherty and Donahue when they turned down a 16% raise and accepted 10%. No one was mad when Donahue and Doherty forgave 23 million in city indebtedness to the pension fund. They were on the FOP board for prior negotiations and should have seen to it that the letter was sent. Now they are going to use the mayor's negotiating ploy to bash one of the only Labor Leaders to stand up to the mayor. Remember where Shields was on Huberman, DV Urban Realty, Ariel Capital, Billboards to decry understaffing, Funding, etc. Doherty and Donahue are all about Doherty and Donahue.
10/29/2013 10:48:00 AM
Actually, plenty of people were angry which is how Shields and his crew got elected. They were pitching that shit at every roll call to get elected along with his Lubermann video on you tube. The bottom line is he and the rest of our union fucked up bad and possibly cost us all a year of retro pay. They can all point fingers wherever they want but in the end they're all responsible and probably have no chance at re-election.
Anonymous said...
Let me guess nobody on the board fought this?
Sidney the retired Davis whose only job is to take note will not know
who voted for what?
Who motioned to have a closed meeting?
What members on the board stated?
10/29/2013 03:50:00 PM
Roberts Rules of Order governing meetings says it will be in Executive Session. By definition, that means closed session. Not defending it, just saying that is the stated reason.
Why did Jesse Jackson and his attorney get to drive a US GOVERNMENT vehicle to turn himself into prison? Look at the license plate. Unbelievable!
Anonymous said...
Union business in not for public knowledge, or even the knowledge of the rank and file members. Union business must be kept secret and on a strict need to know basis.
10/29/2013 01:10:00 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Don't worry one of the old city--wide team will illegally tape the meeting. God help us if they take back over. The witch hunt they went on to the Nolan team was evil and vile. Be very careful what you wish for.
Anyone who says anything good about Mark Donahue and Bill Doherty are fools or stools. Donahue and his neighbor Steve Robbins,whose campaign he financed to get on the pension Fund, tried to throw all the retirees out of the FOP knowing that they were going to get screwed on retiree healthcare. Now Donahue and Doherty are working with another hack in 22 to get Shields thrown out of office. Shields was wrong but has consistently stood up to the City and their BS.
Shields record of standing up to the City is strong and that is why Emanuel is using the letter as a ploy to sow the seeds of discontent. Donahue and Doherty are the cheerleaders. Time for them to go back to the 19th Ward and get back to knocking on doors for Rahm.
IF Shields can win again, I hope he has learned his lesson and dumps Marky Mark Donahue.
Gentleman,Ladies it's not a UNION ! it's an organization, no real power.
No strike clause etc. When are you going to get it!!!!!!!!!
retired guy
006,007 on and on
P.S. Stay safe out there, the animals are loose as always.
Anonymous said...
OT ..dow record close .. deferred thru the roof. Glad I stuck with equities when all the so called experts at work panicked and got out in 09. Tripled to quad my money.. wow
10/29/2013 03:05:00 PM
Is it hard to blow yourself?
SCC PLEASE POST. Closing arguements for MURDERED Police officer Richard Francis will starting the morning of 30 Oct 2013 at 26/cal in room 400. The judge has changed to a larger room. Please pass this info on to other PO's. Thank You
Also in room 700 on 30 Oct 2013 the judge has found a defendent GUILTY in the attempted Muder of (2) Chicago Police officers. Now do to the sentence guildlines the judge wants to change his verdict to NOT GUILTY and find him Guilty of a lesser charge. The ASA's hope to have PO's in the court room to show the judge we do not support his actions.
OT ..dow record close .. deferred thru the roof. Glad I stuck with equities when all the so called experts at work panicked and got out in 09. Tripled to quad my money.. wow
Learn some math. No fund in deferred tripled or quad since 09 and thats not taking into account that if you had money in deferred in 09 you lost quite a bit when the market tanked.
Anonymous said...
Shields was told by board members to mail the letter. He is on record stating he was told. Other members also reminded him. He failed us. He failed us and I hope it was not intentional. I would hate to think a fellow copper would screw over thousands of fellow coppers. Unfortunately his mistake was too major for him to be voted in again. Maybe he was promised something???
10/29/2013 03:27:00 AM
So what prevented the board members from drafting the letter? Then taking it to Shield's desk and insist he sign off on it right now? Then they just had to mail it out. What stopped them? The board is just as bad as Shields. They are all playing games and we are the losers. Shields has to go and everyone else too.
10/29/2013 06:05:00 AM
Just curious - have you ever repeatedly told your commander, or boss, or the head of your business, to do something, then drafted a document, then put it in front of him and INSISTED that he sign it?
If Mikey makes Sgt this world is totally fvcked up
Ok... Enough with "the others knew so they should of made sure it was sent". Tell me, what are they supposed to do? Walk him to the mail box? It's the F'n president of the lodge. I'm sure he told them it would be handled, and HE didn't do it. As far as I'm concerned this ALL lays on shields shoulders
He acts just like the Mayor advised him to act. Why expect transparency from the machine & it's minions ?
Ray said..
Sometimes I do not care for being a Sgt. But then I see what the FOP does to you and I breathe a sigh of relief.
Then I see what the PBPA does to me and I cry a little.
10/29/2013 12:51:00 PM
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HEY Sergeant ASSHOLE
There are 15 spots on the Sergeants board.. during each and every election they ALL run unopposed with maybe the position of president.
We are not the FOP Lodge 7..
NO ONE wants to be one the Sergeant's board because it DOES NOT PAY like FOP.
Get OFF YOUR DEAD ASS if you want to make a difference and get 110 names signed on a petition so you can take a board spot.
Otherwise SHUT THE FUCK UP and stop crying about what the PBPA does to you.
Stop playing the bitch victim role.
I'm not a cop and think this is beyond - like FUBAR - Shields you belong in the Hall of Shame you asswipe -
--No Cop Here
I like that one "Enjoy yourself, Mr. Elk Head". The way to go Mr. Kass!
From the FOP Web Site: Sure looks like the rest of the Board knew about the letter.
NEWS FEED
Contract Negotiations Clarification
March 28, 2012
No matter what you read in the Sun Times quoting “off the record” sources, there is no dispute between the FOP and the City regarding upcoming contract negotiations. Our agreement was timely re-opened on March 20, 2012, well within the time limits that apply for modifications that would improve your labor agreement, address the critical issue of manpower, the safety of the public and of police officers, increase your wages and improve officers’ welfare. Under the Illinois Public Labor Relations Act, 5 ILCS 315/7, a party to a collective bargaining agreement must terminate or modify the agreement by giving the other side notice of the intent to terminate or modify the agreement 60 days before the expiration date. Our contract expires June 30. Therefore, any notice before May 1 would have been timely notice. The IPLRA does not require us to give the City notice by March 1.
However, the labor agreement, Section 28.1, is anything but clear and unambiguous. The agreement provides that “notice of termination” must be given by March 1, 2012. FOP never intended to send a notice of termination. Our labor agreement needs modifications, not termination.
Your core negotiating committee has already solicited your ideas for improving our contract and the committee will be representing your interests in the negotiations no matter when the City comes to the table. Any further recommendations to the committee should be submitted via email to bdougherty@chicagofop.org or dgorman@chicagofop.org
Let's see the list who have been picked and make sure all of them will NEVER work for our FOP again!
I wrote this on 22 Oct. Many people agreed with me. SCC, please how can we do a vote of no confidence for FOP Board?
To all you Shields supporters out there that are blaming everyone for Mikes decision not to send the letter, yes a conscious decision not to send the letter.
1. Mark Donahue the past president had 3 conversations concerning the letter with Mikey. His fourth conversation was with his secretary, who Mikey has since fired because she nagged the fuck out him to send the letter she prepared after speaking with Donahue.
2. Rich Aguilar had a conversation with Mikey and Mikey told him the letter was taken care of.
3. Mikey told the membership at a general meeting 1 week before the letter was due that it was taken care of and its in the minutes of the meeting.
Fuck all the loyal Shields supporters who voted with him and the supporters who say the entire FOP board is responsible. Mikey had one task to accomplish in his 3 year term and that was to get the letter in on time, if he had done that nobody would have known that he wasn't doing his job. He lied about knowing even though he told the membership it was taken care of what more proof do you need to concur that he failed to send the letter and lied to the membership to cover it up.
This post says it best. End of story. Shields is a liar!!!! Mike Shields you need to resign!!! You're making Captains pay and you cost 10,000 police officers thousands of dollars. You and you're idiot brother have no decency or respect. Resign!! FOP membership wake up. The above post says it best. Mike Shields is a liar. He either did it on purpose or he's an idiot. Why are we putting up with this BS. How can one snot nose, never been the police, punk ass do whatever he wants to us? Bottom line..... my family is out 3 to 4 thousand dollars because of Shields being an idiot. Again Shields has a take home car, an expense account, and makes Captain's pay at our dime.
10/22/2013 09:12:00 PM
The Scam continues........
The Shield and Company has turned this into one of the biggest mockeries in the history of the CPD. Vote all these bums out. Extra pay draining our membership. Take home car. Deputy Chief's pay. Steak Dinners. All on our dime. Bottom line, he took food off my table.
Shield's should have the balls to resign. Can't you see brothers and sisters in blue he's a coward and a liar? The two worst traits in life, a Liar and a Coward. Vote him out!!!!! If this little boy had any integrity or character he would have resigned. Do the math, millions of dollars delivered to our disrespectful Mayor. Think of all the blue shirts before us that fought for all our benefits!! We owe it to them. We don't owe this Shield's punk not one damn thing. He's making $134,000 dollars on our backs. Unacceptable that he "forgot" to send the letter. He's making too much money off of us to forget an administrative duty. We have way too many stressors on this job including incompetent, shady white shirts and this is the treatment we get from one of own. Bottom line Brothers and sisters in Blue Vote this Mike "the scam" Shields out.
Bring back the guillotine and execute all of them!
Retired Lt here. Where's all you're cocky remarks now. A closed FOP Hearing which cost you money. Remember what I wrote last week? Let me remind you. Why would you Blue Shirts let a nobody like Shields make fools out of you. The Real Police that I came on the job with would have forced this shit talking liar off of FOP and the job. What the hell happened to the Real Police? Are you that dumb? I'm glad I retired. You're letting a Giligan looking Shields make you look like idiots. "Oh I forgot to send the letter." Yeah right. Wake up CPD. I can't believe this is the Chicago Police Department that I spent 35 years on. Shields has turned this into the Clown Police Department.
De-certify F.O.P. and join TEAMSTERS!!!
(OT) sgts get your calls in interviews for the airports 9 openings to start 13th period.
you people are cops! Mike did not just forget to send that letter. He is in bed with the Mayor.
Hang in there Mike. The knives are long and Donahue, Doherty and Robbins are working extra hard to stick you. Amazing that you ever thought they would be your friends and help with their experience. The only goal they have had is to get you dumped.
The FOP golfs too much with MCCarthy and Rham, they are not impartial....
Not an FOP member .... just curious ... have any of you read the by-laws and/or checked with the national chapter to see if you can have a recall vote on this moron??
I can't believe the changes I've seen this Department go through since I started in 1993.
I never dreamed our "leadership" would be this feeble and our own "unions" stabbing us in the back left and right.
Add to that, the "me" generation flipping on each other every time there is a CR and you have an absolute train wreck! I refuse to believe any other major City department could be this much of an embarrassment.
Chalk retro up as a loss. As for the closed meeting, if it is within the bylaws, such is life. Am I happy about or excuse this situation? Hellllll NO... BUT... eye on the ball. It's contract time, let's do the best we can and vote for someone better qualified next time around. If folks were as passionate or as aware when they voted last time we wouldnt be in this mess. I didn't vote for shields, am not surprised, and am PISSED but come on... You guys voted him in, deal with this and simply do some research next time around before you vote!!!! The pissing and moaning is counterproductive. Again, I'm not surprised, not happy, but am a realist. Being pissed and calling for heads to roll does zero at this point. An informed future VOTE makes the difference.
Don't get me started on that Huberman YouTube video. Mikey knew Huberman was going to be at there and staged the big video with Danny the Dog his brother, then dropped a dime to Larry Yellen. Right Mikey? Just like asking the secretary to pull Hubermans file, so you knew what he was up to and where he was going to be .. You're done Mikey, you and you're whole tool of a crew.
No bid deal that the membership was denied access to the kangaroo court. Remember, the impartial (hahahahaha)panel will make its recommendation to the Board of Directors at the Board meeting on November 5, 2013. That meeting begins at 10:00am. That meeting is open to any member who cares to attend.
You can hear the panel's ruling and hear how each board member votes. The membership cannot be excluded. Show up or shut the fuck up.
You all should have stood together against the mayor's unethical lack of respect for your union and precedent (and I mean legal precedent).
the "letter" of intent is a formality. Understand that in legal terms between counsel in any negotiation there are constant courtesies assumed especially when it is widely and publicly and very readily recognized by both parties that they not only intend to renegotiate a contract, but have already begun doing so and even mutually agreed terms on certain portions of said contract.
to suddenly claim he didn't know there needed to be any negotiation on a technicality is both disingenuous, at least, and downright dishonest to the point of intentionally making it known that there is no good faith in the process, so as to let you know, all of you, the police, that he holds you with complete disdain, if not complete disregard.
ask yourself why the media just didn't ask rahm the simple question, "why did you also state your intent during the campaign to 'negotiate a new contract quickly,' as a sort of campaign promise to both voters and the police officers that they could trust you to handle the negotiation with more expediency than your predecessor?
Other unions also overlooked the formality of the letter. The mayor does as he pleases and perhaps all the ranting you're all doing about a show of outrage ought be directed at the one responsible for dirty tactics and a complete intentional stalling of good faith negotiations in order to hold you in limbo until the timing suits him and his political agenda best.
do you not realize that this should cost him his re-election?
Remember the utter mayhem brought down upon the state Capitol in Madison, Wisconsin when union workers thought their governor was intentionally attempting to weaken their standing ?
This mayor and your governor squander and mismanage public assets and financial resources, then play you against your union president so as to quietly get away with worse than Scott Walker, and then have the nerve to claim they are the party of worker's rights?
The media's silence and capitulation is tantamount to aiding and abetting in order to allow the mayor a free pass and unchallenged control of way more than the voters realize.
You should pack city hall, WITH YOUR UNION PRESIDENT, and let it be known that you are on to the mayor's con game, and ask the public to join you in saying we shouldn't let him get away with it.
You have more support than you realize as there are many groups currently fed up withthe empty theatrics rahm is using to buy support with the usual promises like a bad salesman.
Anonymous said...
OT ..dow record close .. deferred thru the roof. Glad I stuck with equities when all the so called experts at work panicked and got out in 09. Tripled to quad my money.. wow
10/29/2013 03:05:00 PM
Is it hard to blow yourself?
10/29/2013 06:30:00 PM
Not the original poster, but I've invested in the market for a lot of years.
When it tanked back in 86, one of the guys in my unit turned the tv on and moaned and whined for days and he pulled his cash out at the bottom of the market. He lost nearly everything. (I bought.)
In 2008-9, when there was a panic in gas/oil related issues, I bought at the bottom.
I watched one of the people in my unit sell almost all of her retirement fund, even though we all told her not to. I hear she's stuck working now, instead of being able to retire, because of that decision.
You have to have the stomach for it, but if you can keep your wits about you and not get caught up in the drama and hype, you can do really, really well by staying calm and realistic. A lot of people don't have the stomach for it, because there WILL be rough patches and you have to be able to turn off the noise around you when that happens. Some people can't, and those people shouldn't be in the market at all.
So don't begrudge the guy because he's happy today. I was pretty happy the day I sold that rental car stock at fifteen times what I paid for it, too.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why did Jesse Jackson and his attorney get to drive a US GOVERNMENT vehicle to turn himself into prison? Look at the license plate. Unbelievable!
10/29/2013 05:02:00 PM
That was a Bureau of Prisons vehicle, after he turned himself in he was taken to intake or someplace. He was in custody at that point. Adios for 30 months.
Bill Cozzi didn't get any such courtesy in that shithole he was in.
Hey Retired Lt. How about giving the real police thing a rest? Shut the fuck up, go back to your easy chair, bottle of Jamieson, your revolver, your black and white tv and sit and reminisce about the good old days. I bet you've got a call box as the centerpiece of your basement.
It's pathetic that you have to come to a blog and still try to tell the blueshirts what they should be doing. Guess the old lady doesn't listen to your bullshit so you have to post here.
The best day of your subordinate's lives must have been the day you reired.
Give me a break - just SHOW UP en masse, and go in and sit down. It's YOUR Lodge, the Board works for YOU - go in. Tell them to piss off. They either do the business in the bright light of the day, or not at all.
If you want to change the way things are done and encourage transparency, then OPEN THE DAMN DOORS.
You're the cops - set some standards.
To:
You all should have stood together against the mayor's unethical lack of respect for your union and precedent (and I mean legal precedent).
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You sound like your in the know. But you back our president who backs the wrong people in political campaigns. The president should have backed police officers in campaigns and I guarantee we would not be in this mess. He made his deceitful bed, now he can rot in it.
Contract Negotiations Clarification
March 28, 2012
No matter what you read in the Sun Times quoting “off the record” sources, there is no dispute between the FOP and the City regarding upcoming contract negotiations. Our agreement was timely re-opened on March 20, 2012, well within the time limits that apply for modifications that would improve your labor agreement, address the critical issue of manpower, the safety of the public and of police officers, increase your wages and improve officers’ welfare. Under the Illinois Public Labor Relations Act, 5 ILCS 315/7, a party to a collective bargaining agreement must terminate or modify the agreement by giving the other side notice of the intent to terminate or modify the agreement 60 days before the expiration date. Our contract expires June 30. Therefore, any notice before May 1 would have been timely notice. The IPLRA does not require us to give the City notice by March 1.
However, the labor agreement, Section 28.1, is anything but clear and unambiguous. The agreement provides that “notice of termination” must be given by March 1, 2012. FOP never intended to send a notice of termination. Our labor agreement needs modifications, not termination.
Your core negotiating committee has already solicited your ideas for improving our contract and the committee will be representing your interests in the negotiations no matter when the City comes to the table. Any further recommendations to the committee should be submitted via email to bdougherty@chicagofop.org or dgorman@chicagofop.org
Recommendations should be submitted to Bill Dougherty?? How can this be? Dougherty told us at the union meeting that he "insisted" that Mike send the letter. Bill, the more lies you tell the harder it is to keep up with them.
Minimize your deductions into the CITY's deferred comp. Invest on your own and the return will be much higher. Find a trusted advisor. They normally work for free and are paid by the firms. Why would you trust the city to choose who will handle your money.
Anonymous said...
Retired Lt here. Where's all you're cocky remarks now. A closed FOP Hearing which cost you money. Remember what I wrote last week? Let me remind you. Why would you Blue Shirts let a nobody like Shields make fools out of you. The Real Police that I came on the job with would have forced this shit talking liar off of FOP and the job. What the hell happened to the Real Police? Are you that dumb? I'm glad I retired. You're letting a Giligan looking Shields make you look like idiots. "Oh I forgot to send the letter." Yeah right. Wake up CPD. I can't believe this is the Chicago Police Department that I spent 35 years on. Shields has turned this into the Clown Police Department.
10/29/2013 09:31:00 PM
You like TALKING SHIT, but you didn't give us any specific ideas on how to get rid of this piece of shit.
Hey! Tough guy! How about some CONCRETE ideas about how you would have taken care of an asshole like this back in the day? Something plausible, if you please.
@0237
This guy was not competent enough to file a simple letter with the city for retro, you're gonna trust him with your pension?
Join the Teamsters??? You sir are a complete MORON
one was angry at Doherty and Donahue when they turned down a 16% raise and accepted 10%. No one was mad when Donahue and Doherty forgave 23 million in city indebtedness to the pension fund. They were on the FOP board for prior negotiations and should have seen to it that the letter was sent. Now they are going to use the mayor's negotiating ploy to bash one of the only Labor Leaders to stand up to the mayor. Remember where Shields was on Huberman, DV Urban Realty, Ariel Capital, Billboards to decry understaffing, Funding, etc. Doherty and Donahue are all about Doherty and Donahue.
If I remember right Daley pulled the 16% when he saw our arbitrator handling our case rule against another city dept and lowered there s to 10%. And stop acting like we were going to get a big retro check. The city can just give us nothing for the 1st year and backload the rest. Stop looking at just the $ and lets try to get or keep our benefits.
Not the original poster, but I've invested in the market for a lot of years.
When it tanked back in 86, one of the guys in my unit turned the tv on and moaned and whined for days and he pulled his cash out at the bottom of the market. He lost nearly everything. (I bought.)
In 2008-9, when there was a panic in gas/oil related issues, I bought at the bottom.
I watched one of the people in my unit sell almost all of her retirement fund, even though we all told her not to. I hear she's stuck working now, instead of being able to retire, because of that decision.
You have to have the stomach for it, but if you can keep your wits about you and not get caught up in the drama and hype, you can do really, really well by staying calm and realistic. A lot of people don't have the stomach for it, because there WILL be rough patches and you have to be able to turn off the noise around you when that happens. Some people can't, and those people shouldn't be in the market at all.
So don't begrudge the guy because he's happy today. I was pretty happy the day I sold that rental car stock at fifteen times what I paid for it, too
It must be nice to be perfect. Glad you are enjoying your investments, although I dont know why you would be on the job if you always make the right decisions on the market and your profits go up 15 times
So don't begrudge the guy because he's happy today. I was pretty happy the day I sold that rental car stock at fifteen times what I paid for it, too.10/30/2013 01:54:00 AM
I see that you too can also type with your own dick in your mouth. Well done!
Carlos Cortez did something right? Im amazed at that. He will never be FOP President, if I can help it. I worked with him and he is a goof, big time.
Had series 6 and worked for a major ins. co.10 yrs prior to getting on cpd in 91. Sold all forms of ins. and mutual funds, and knew the value of the product. Started 100 per check from academy, 500 after 5 yrs and 700 after 10. All large and small cap stock since I started. I kept with my plan, knew it was for long term,didn't make rash changes when market dropped.Deferred now near half a million. To those that knock our deferred ,and the value of dollar cost averaging in the market when high or low, think again.
One of year of retro won't or shouldn't break anyone's bank. Yeah it was a mistake, but not an -end-of-the-world mistake. A rookie mistake. I still like Shields. He is a pain in Rahm's side.
This issue of the failed letter is doing more to divide the membership than anything else. Rahm is a dirty negotiator. The City was in negotiations with the Union at the time. Rahm is using the letter as a way to divide the membership. He is laughing at us as he reads this blog.
Our issue should be with the City and Mayor Rahmmel for stirring the pot over a technicality.
..cpd deferred 21 yrs in stocks,in 197 g ,total 356 g yesterday. I believe I did a successful thing for myself and my wife.
Carlos Cortez once again showed just what a boob he is. Unprepared he did not ask the right questions. By the incompetence of Cortez Shields will walk. Carlos you just showed the membership why they should not vote for you. If you can't perform at a bullshit hearing how can you run a union. Sickening.
Bill Dougherty could actually make Mikey look like a good choice. Don't forget Bill was on the Shields team until this month. Bill and Geiger got to go.
Shields has to go. Also, everyone one the board has to go. Don't give me the line that "so and so is a good guy". NO, they all have to go. All of them knew about sending out the letter. Yet they didn't do a damn thing. They allowed this travesty to happen. During a meeting someone asked the entire board why they didn't step up to the plate and hand the letter over to Shields and have him sign it. No one on the board said anything. We need fresh faces who have honor. Which none of these current board members have.
That's not accurate. Two Board members stood up and stated they informed Shields along with a trustee. Unfortunately these members should have been on this constantly to the point of nausea. They should have been reminding him constantly, every hour on the hour. Then, if he wasn't sending it. Let the members know immediately. He is the President, but they are just as responsible as he and as members of the board. They all need to go.
Reading these comments make it evident that current and former FOP board sit and read and comment on this blog all day long
Bill and the boys must really fear going back to a beat car. Bill is burning the midnight oil attempting to put a team together. Maybe you should have worked that hard for coppers.
What happened yesterday? Could someone in 30 words of less tell us what happened w/o taking a shot at someone or give us a long winded campaign speech?
Anonymous said...
Retired Lt here. Where's all you're cocky remarks now. A closed FOP Hearing which cost you money. Remember what I wrote last week? Let me remind you. Why would you Blue Shirts let a nobody like Shields make fools out of you. The Real Police that I came on the job with would have forced this shit talking liar off of FOP and the job. What the hell happened to the Real Police? Are you that dumb? I'm glad I retired. You're letting a Giligan looking Shields make you look like idiots. "Oh I forgot to send the letter." Yeah right. Wake up CPD. I can't believe this is the Chicago Police Department that I spent 35 years on. Shields has turned this into the Clown Police Department.
10/29/2013 09:31:00 PM
You like TALKING SHIT, but you didn't give us any specific ideas on how to get rid of this piece of shit.
Hey! Tough guy! How about some CONCRETE ideas about how you would have taken care of an asshole like this back in the day? Something plausible, if you please.
Well my fellow Big Mouth friend, if I have to tell Chicago Police Officers and Detectives how to get rid of a snot nose little bitch boy like Shields who is a liar then throw away you're stars. You're not worthy. But since you asked I will.
First thing. Pick a date and send the word out to all blue shirts to show up at FOP Hall. Walk in and tell his ass to resign. Make sure you pick an intelligent mouth piece. They're are blue shirts that are lawyers and some of the best Detectives in the world. Next, make sure the FOP State and Grand Lodge are notified and present. Throw his ass out. Whose gonna stop you, Gorman half a brain or his fat ass freak brother, Dan? Finally contact the media. Shame him. I doubt it will work since Shields has no self respect. Good luck.
Tired of FLOP Vote all the incumbents out!!! No more Capparelli No more Dimari and Dean Angelo and his son
Not the original poster, but I've invested in the market for a lot of years.
When it tanked back in 86, one of the guys in my unit turned the tv on and moaned and whined for days and he pulled his cash out at the bottom of the market. He lost nearly everything. (I bought.)
In 2008-9, when there was a panic in gas/oil related issues, I bought at the bottom.
I watched one of the people in my unit sell almost all of her retirement fund, even though we all told her not to. I hear she's stuck working now, instead of being able to retire, because of that decision.
You have to have the stomach for it, but if you can keep your wits about you and not get caught up in the drama and hype, you can do really, really well by staying calm and realistic. A lot of people don't have the stomach for it, because there WILL be rough patches and you have to be able to turn off the noise around you when that happens. Some people can't, and those people shouldn't be in the market at all.
So don't begrudge the guy because he's happy today. I was pretty happy the day I sold that rental car stock at fifteen times what I paid for it, too
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It must be nice to be perfect. Glad you are enjoying your investments, although I dont know why you would be on the job if you always make the right decisions on the market and your profits go up 15 times
10/30/2013 10:02:00 AM
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Nobody claimed to be perfect. I clearly stated there are bad patches, too, but you have to have the stomach to tough it through them. It doesn't make you better or worse, if you can or can't. But you should know yourself well enough to know whether you have the right kind of personality to play the market and the good sense not to, if you can't hack it.
And, thanks for your kind comments, but I just retired and I won't be eating cat food if Rahm does manage to make an illegal dent in my pension. Got lots more time for the market now, too. ;-)
Maybe there's a surgeon out there who can remove that large chip from your shoulder. Life must be miserable for you, carrying that around all the time.
People that dumped in 2009 maybe superficial nor any constitution..
From a vet . Cpd cops get in deferred early as possible. You wont miss the deposit and it will grow. Large cap stocks for 25 yrs and you may be a millionaire when you retire..Keep your plan . Do not listen to failures, Worked for me .
Just a simple question to all the posters who said the rest of the board should have made sure Shields sent the letter.
When your partner tells you he is going to hang a ticket on a parked car or false alarm do you watch him put it on the car or door or do you take him at his word?
Same thing applies here. At least two board members told him about sending the letter. He said it would be taken care of. At least one person at the February 21, 2012 FOP monthly meeting asked him if he had sent the letter. He again said it was taken care of.
He's a grown assed man. The president of the fucking union. If the board members and the members can't take him at his word, he has no business being the president.
Hey Retired Lt. How about giving the real police thing a rest? Shut the fuck up, go back to your easy chair, bottle of Jamieson, your revolver, your black and white tv and sit and reminisce about the good old days. I bet you've got a call box as the centerpiece of your basement.
It's pathetic that you have to come to a blog and still try to tell the blueshirts what they should be doing. Guess the old lady doesn't listen to your bullshit so you have to post here.
Yeah I was the Real Police punk. You couldn't even shine my shoes let alone be the police. My CPD leather jacket has more arrests then you ever did. I know this, some pencil neck geek like Shields wouldn't get away with screwing over our brothers in sisters in blue. Go back to playing on you're iPhone as you're driving around the hood. Make sure you have enough gel in you're hair and more tattoos. I told you a week ago he was going to screw you over. Then again what do I know. A closed session hearing. Ha ha ha. There are dead coppers rolling over in their graves knowing a college boy makes a mockery of ten thousand blue shirts making Deputy Chiefs pay. Ha ha ha ha ha.
Shield's should have the balls to resign. Can't you see brothers and sisters in blue he's a coward and a liar? The two worst traits in life, a Liar and a Coward. Vote him out!!!!! If this little boy had any integrity or character he would have resigned. Do the math, millions of dollars delivered to our disrespectful Mayor. Think of all the blue shirts before us that fought for all our benefits!! We owe it to them. We don't owe this Shield's punk not one damn thing. He's making $134,000 dollars on our backs. Unacceptable that he "forgot" to send the letter. He's making too much money off of us to forget an administrative duty. We have way too many stressors on this job including incompetent, shady white shirts and this is the treatment we get from one of own. Bottom line Brothers and sisters in Blue Vote this Mike "the scam" Shields out.
Very well said. Shields needs to go!!!!!! He's a liar and a cheat!!!!! Get rid of his ass. Call Fop and jam the phone lines. Let's show up and flood his office until he leaves. I agree with the a Retired Lt. He's a fraud. Show up at FOP on Friday the 1st of November, at 0800 hours. Shields has got to go!!!!! Help us out SCC. New thread. Protest at FOP on the 1st Of Nov at 0800 Hours.
Hey Retired Lt. How about giving the real police thing a rest? Shut the fuck up, go back to your easy chair, bottle of Jamieson, your revolver, your black and white tv and sit and reminisce about the good old days. I bet you've got a call box as the centerpiece of your basement.
It's pathetic that you have to come to a blog and still try to tell the blueshirts what they should be doing. Guess the old lady doesn't listen to your bullshit so you have to post here.
The best day of your subordinate's lives must have been the day you retired.
Retired Lt to answer the above post of the three year wonder. I don't drink Jamieson. Never did. Always drank Jack. Gave up drinking after coming back from Nam. I'm sure you're dumb ass thinks its sushi. Yes I had a revolver but also carried a Colt 1911 for 34 years. Something you're dumb ass will never know about. We had our own carbine program hair gel. You should've seen what kind of rifles came out of our trunk. No TRR and no paper for shots fired by the Real Police!!! Now go and play with you're AR-14. Hair gel I was a Marine. Every morning I run 3 miles. My wife passed 7 years ago. I don't sit in an easy chair like you do with you're X Box. Now go and impress you're high school buddies with you're 18th Dist war stories. And put more shit on you're vest. Let's see how fast you can chase the savage over a fence. Then again you're not gonna be chasing anyone in 18.
Task Force Retired Lt
..our deferred for you young cpd cops is the best thing ever . I have 400k after 22yrs in stocks.
Yes agree flood the FOP but you need more notice than a day..you need to make sure everyone knows. But yes, he needs to go.
BD - like in a roadrunner cartoon - is standing under a piano. It's going to land on him but he does not know it yet. You could have saved us all this trouble if your did your instead of submarining the gel jell. Doing so you sunk all of us. Thanks Bill.
The retired Lt is so full of it, he had to be one of the most obnoxious people on the job.
You should pack city hall, WITH YOUR UNION PRESIDENT, and let it be known that you are on to the mayor's con game, and ask the public to join you in saying we shouldn't let him get away with it.
You have more support than you realize as there are many groups currently fed up withthe empty theatrics rahm is using to buy support with the usual promises like a bad salesman.
Ok Mike Shields. I agree the letter is a formality. The bottom line is you lied about it. When you're making 160k, a take home car, and an expense account you don't "forget" to send the letter. You sound like Obama with the website. You need to resign immediately. What gives you the right to hold a hearing in Closed Session? You have no integrity, character, and you are a LIAR!!! Now pack you're office up in you're tiny little box and leave. I voted for you but I can't stand being lied too. Now leave!!!!
Lay off Cortez. He was our only member with the balls and the knowledge to file charges against Shields while the rest of us just posted about it. Goes to show that we truly are our own worst enemies. Who do we think can replace this board when we can't agree on anything constructive cause we are all so petty jealous
1st post for me on this subject [457] but I've been coming on here for years since I retired saying to max out your deferred comp. You don't need the newest, most fancy car, or the latest, idiot electronic gadgets, or the ultimate cable contract and a lot of other silly bullshit. You need to think beyond today and prepare for as early a retirement as you can take. The other posters are correct. Even if you just go 50/50 with fixed and a blend of mid and large caps, you will do fine. One simple rule. Stick and stay, make it pay. Stay safe.
No, retired Lt. no three year wonder here. Just someone with the ability to adapt.
Personally, I think you are a fraud. Your statement "I was a marine" tells me a lot. No self-respecting marine would ever refer to himself that way. Once a marine, always a marine.
Now, please just go away and boss the grandkids around. You need to get a life and stop living in the past. God, I can only hope that I never become even shadow of what you are today.
Hey retired Lt. You didn't really suggest contacting the media to get rid of Shields did you? That's real old school.
If I remember correctly you fricken sellouts agreed to a contract with no pay raise last time around. Yeah you guys got it all figured out. And don't get me started on the Sgt's union which allowed its president to steal over a million bucks. There are still Sgt's sticking up for him and nobody found the money yet. Moral of the story is times change. You're retired. Good for you enjoy your pension and take up a hobby. And keep your comme td to yourself unless they're proactive.
To all you uniformed, or shields stooges, shields secretary, who he described as a really good and compentant legal secretary when he asked for the boards approval to hire her nagged the fuck out of him every day, after preparing the letter for his signature, to send the letter. Her reward for looking out for our interest was shields berating her and firing her. So this is the jagoff you're defending. His own personal secretary tried to hold his hand and he fired her. How much evidence do you need to conclude this asshole made a conscious decision not to send the letter. He's a grown ass man who now needs to answer for his incompentance, arrogance and deciept to the members of the FoP.
To all you uniformed, or shields stooges, shields secretary, who he described as a really good and compentant legal secretary when he asked for the boards approval to hire her nagged the fuck out of him every day, after preparing the letter for his signature, to send the letter. Her reward for looking out for our interest was shields berating her and firing her. So this is the jagoff you're defending. His own personal secretary tried to hold his hand and he fired her. How much evidence do you need to conclude this asshole made a conscious decision not to send the letter. He's a grown ass man who now needs to answer for his incompentance, arrogance and deciept to the members of the FoP. It was his decision, and his decision alone, no one else is responsible but mike shields. Those board members better launch his ass and if they don't we need to launch everyone who defends incompentance.
No, retired Lt. no three year wonder here. Just someone with the ability to adapt.
Personally, I think you are a fraud. Your statement "I was a marine" tells me a lot. No self-respecting marine would ever refer to himself that way. Once a marine, always a marine.
Now, please just go away and boss the grandkids around. You need to get a life and stop living in the past. God, I can only hope that I never become even shadow of what you are today.
Fraud? If you are wearing the CPD uniform then that should be an easy pinch for impersonating a security guard, not a police officer. Semper Fi
There was no task forceLt, who was a Viet Nam veteran. The task force ceased to exist in 1970. It would have been impossible, to go to Viet Nam, serve a year, come home, get hired snd make Lt. Viet Nam really started, in 1965. This guy is full of it!
hields was told by board members to mail the letter. He is on record stating he was told. Other members also reminded him. He failed us. He failed us and I hope it was not intentional...........
Of course it as intentional! Don't worry about his future he will be taken care of by the regime.
Now you pissed me off , you sperm bank. Get you're facts straight hair gel. Let me give you a history lesson since you're brain has turned mush from wearing you're girlfriends hair products. Vietnam began from 1957 to 1975. I didn't get drafted but joined the Marine Corp. the only service you ever did was getting a bikini wax or giving one. 1st Battalion 23rd Marine Regiment, 1965 - 1966. On CPD in 1967. Went to the real police academy at 720 W O'Brien Street. 14 weeks of training. Star and revolver issued in the first week. I worked the Democratic National Convention in 1968. No stupid ribbons for doing our job. Now you get a ribbon for showing up to work. Task Forces were at each Area in uniform. Six Areas not five. I worked at 51st Street. You can't even put together a time line correctly. Maybe you need more time on you're iPhone. How the hell are you going to figure out a homicide or if the savage is lying to you? Now I understand how a Shields is able to lie to you. Simply put, you're a fucking moron. Don't get caught stealing money kid, you're gonna get passed around like candy on Halloween in the joint. Speaking of Haloween, go put you're uniform on, drunks might think you're actually the Real Police. Oh no it's raining, that means you'll be hiding in some club downtown telling the girls or in you're case the guys some cop stories you heard. You've been served Bitch, I mean 18th District Ranger.
There was no task forceLt, who was a Viet Nam veteran. The task force ceased to exist in 1970. It would have been impossible, to go to Viet Nam, serve a year, come home, get hired snd make Lt. Viet Nam really started, in 1965. This guy is full of it!
Are you drunk or just illiterate. You must be Shields or one of the dumb asses that believe him. Seriously, look at what you wrote. Make sure you don't mix up you're gun and key board. No wonder this job sucks. Look at the caliber of people they are hiring. How the fuck do you do a case report. My four year can write better then you.
There used to be less idiots on this job now were surrounded by them. I bet you have a Masters.
Hey retired Lt. You didn't really suggest contacting the media to get rid of Shields did you? That's real old school.
If I remember correctly you fricken sellouts agreed to a contract with no pay raise last time around. Yeah you guys got it all figured out. And don't get me started on the Sgt's union which allowed its president to steal over a million bucks. There are still Sgt's sticking up for him and nobody found the money yet. Moral of the story is times change. You're retired. Good for you enjoy your pension and take up a hobby. And keep your comme td to yourself unless they're proactive.
10/31/2013 02:22:00 PM
Yes, he stole the money and went to jail. Shields is stealing from you through incompetency and you're making him a hero. Proactive? You consider Closed Hearings as being proactive? Thank God I retired.
Tuesday at 10am is the FOP Board meeting that is open to all FOP members. It is at this meeting that Shields and his handpicked committee will try to again fuck the membership and pull the wool over his blind loyal supporters. I hope that the members will be at this meeting to witness first hand this assholes arrogance and the board members who back his bullshit. No doubt he will postpone the vote to the end of the meeting 230-3pm unless he sees at the start of the meeting 10am that there are only a few people there and he will get it over with asap so the fewest members witness his own jury finding him not guilty of all charges.
I really was a loo tenant. And I was a marine dammit!
I drank jack and carried a big gun!
You sissies wouldnt know a tough guy if he clocked you and socked you right dead in the mug, see?
Sure, granpa, whatever you say. What's that? You were a general in the chicago police constable squadron and you caught the cow that started that big old fire?
Good for you. I bet you showed that old mrs. O'leary who's boss, granpa, we're all so proud of you.
now go to bed.
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Tuesday at 10am is the FOP Board meeting that is open to all FOP members. It is at this meeting that Shields and his handpicked committee will try to again fuck the membership and pull the wool over his blind loyal supporters. I hope that the members will be at this meeting to witness first hand this assholes arrogance and the board members who back his bullshit. No doubt he will postpone the vote to the end of the meeting 230-3pm unless he sees at the start of the meeting 10am that there are only a few people there and he will get it over with asap so the fewest members witness his own jury finding him not guilty of all charges.
10/31/2013 10:33:00 PM
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They will met in executive session so don't waste you time going. But the good news is someone secretly tape the meeting and post it on youtube! Any word on how the Dic who investigating it is going to precede?
At this point I'm not ready to commit to any candidate but want to see whoever called the Scum-Times and recorded the meeting in secret thrown out of the union at least. Pretty soon you have to check the guy/gal your riding with for bugs.
I really was a loo tenant. And I was a marine dammit!
I drank jack and carried a big gun!
You sissies wouldnt know a tough guy if he clocked you and socked you right dead in the mug, see?
Sure, granpa, whatever you say. What's that? You were a general in the chicago police constable squadron and you caught the cow that started that big old fire?
Good for you. I bet you showed that old mrs. O'leary who's boss, granpa, we're all so proud of you.
now go to bed.
Yes I'm going to bed because you're mother is calling me. Now go blow dry you're hair and look pretty for a Rush street.
to retired lieutenant,
I'd say, "get a life," but you're hitting 70 and apparently never got around to much more than obsessing over yourself.
The "hair gel" that's making up cop stories at nightclubs is sure getting laid way more than you, that's for sure.
Unless there's a girl out there that wants to hear you complain about awards you didn't get, and a police career you claim was so satisfying that you now spend your retirement arguing with anonymous posts...
Who knows? With all the hipster girls suddenly into everything retro, maybe if you throw on some pinaud and Brill cream, you can find some freaky chic you don't have to pay for...
Bad Lt you rock. They don't understand you're humor because their self entitled college boys. Never had a real job! Mommy and Daddy spoiled them. But there tough just look at their tattoos. From now on Retired Lt you are the Bad Lt. Enjoy you're retirement and I wish I could have worked with you. Thank you for sieving.
After we vote him out shields will be rewarded with an exempt promotion by those he really works for.
10/29/2013 09:33:00 AM
He will have an exempt salary anyway as past president...
Retired Lt here. Where's all you're cocky remarks now. A closed FOP Hearing which cost you money. Remember what I wrote last week? Let me remind you. Why would you Blue Shirts let a nobody like Shields make fools out of you. The Real Police that I came on the job with would have forced this shit talking liar off of FOP and the job. What the hell happened to the Real Police? Are you that dumb? I'm glad I retired. You're letting a Giligan looking Shields make you look like idiots. "Oh I forgot to send the letter." Yeah right. Wake up CPD. I can't believe this is the Chicago Police Department that I spent 35 years on. Shields has turned this into the Clown Police Department.
10/29/2013 09:31:00 PM
You must have forgotten the legacy of your FOP my elder. The pension is currently 28% funded in part due to a huge cash infusion not being made. This was forgiven by your FOP. This dismantling of the Dept did not just start but has taken years. Many of the years you were here lt.
I am not a fan of Shields but he messed up once. He has not cost me any extra money yet so I'm going to let this play out. No I am not going to provide him a second term but I'm also not voting for ANY of the Donahues and Aguilars and Dougherty's etc. or any of their family or friends. ALL have been there too long and take us for granted. They need to work the streets so they can see what their policies and contracts have produced. ALL of them! New and old!
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