Court Appearances
Could use some friendly faces at a couple places:
- It would be a great show of solidarity for any off-duty officers and/or detention aides to come to the Dirksen Building, room 2201, Monday the 28th and/or Tuesday 29th.
In 2004, May Molina, a female arrested for PCS with intent to deliver, died in the 19th District lockup. The family is now suing seven members of the CPD (there were eight, but one died) - one retired Captain, one detention aide, and five sworn officers - and the City. Initially there were more than twenty Department members named as defendants. The trial is going into its fourth week.
The coroner was barred from testifying... Mystifying.
So how do they have anyone testify as to cause of death? Seems like grounds for an appeal almost immediately.
And the Francis trial continues Monday:
And the Francis trial continues Monday:
- Trial for Officer Rick Francis
[...] His trial began last Monday and the turn out for the offender has been very good. The turn out for Rick has been minimum at best- there have been an average of 5-7 officers in attendance- majority who are coming off their midnight shift and staying in court all day- The family and P.O's from 019 appreciate all who have stopped in but this woman who took one of our own (with his own gun) should not have more support than Rick's family. They are not going with an insanity defense because she knew very well what she was doing-
Please try and come to court this week- The Defense will begin their arguments Monday
Monday- October 28, 2013
Time- 11:00 am
Room -302
26th/California
Swing by. Leave your number with someone upstairs and swing by for 15 or 30 minutes on break from your courtroom.
Labels: officer down
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
54 Comments:
Just curious. Is the 'retired captain' in that first suit DD? I am NOT going to court to support her. Not ever.
Seriously sad....get your butts out of the library and take a walk over to 302!!!!!
The entire 1st watch from 019 should be there. Absolutely pathetic on their part and save the b.s. excuses cuz I don't care about hearing them! It's a shithole but I'll take the south side solidarity any day!
The judge barring the M.E. that tells all right there. Same thing with tha case with the truck driver in china town el stop. Judge did not let the doctors testify, went to appeals and all involved did not have to pay punitive damages.
In my district, if a prisoner needs to go to a hospital then the dss will deny it. Now as a p.o. what do you do? You are fucked either way. If dude dies, then surely the dss won't say "that was my decision to deny him medical care, I take full responsibility". That is why I welcome cameras and recording devices throughout the police station.
Unfortunately, time is limited for the police officers.
The Offender's family has nothing to do but collect LINK and vote when told to.
OT: The hearing for Mike Shields is scheduled to take place tomorrow at 5:00pm at FOP. Rumor has it Mike is going to try to keep the details from the membership by closing the meeting and excluding everyone from witnessing it.
He already picked his friends to judge his guilt or innocence. Now this bullshit? Everyone should at least make an appearance. It will be interesting to see how he handles it. He has got to be stopped and put in his place.
Regarding the Sgt's test, you got to love the pre-assigned test books. The "special" people got the "special" test books.
The coroner was barred from testifying... Mystifying.
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Not so mystifying if he/she had no first hand information to present, and they rarely, if ever do.
It would be analogous to asking a judge or a clerk of the court to testify about a court proceeding.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The entire 1st watch from 019 should be there. Absolutely pathetic on their part and save the b.s. excuses cuz I don't care about hearing them! It's a shithole but I'll take the south side solidarity any day!
10/28/2013 02:41:00 AM
ok tough guy take the south side.
And if the other officers did there job they would not be getting sued.
The entire 1st watch from 019 should be there. Absolutely pathetic on their part and save the b.s. excuses cuz I don't care about hearing them! It's a shithole but I'll take the south side solidarity any day!
10/28/2013 02:41:00 AM
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First off I'm from 019 midnights and I've been there, I agree 019 midnights should have a better turn out. On the other hand you too are an officer, you mean to tell me solidarity only runs as deep as the area of the city you patrol? No excuses, just as pathetic.
Anonymous said...
Just curious. Is the 'retired captain' in that first suit DD? I am NOT going to court to support her. Not ever.
10/28/2013 12:35:00 AM
I did a search on molina vs city of chicago and came up with what seems to be the federal complaint. No mention of DD in there. It does mention that some defendants were dropped from the original complaint.
What a country, you get to deal heroin, get arrested, eat many bags of heroin, die of overdose and your shitbag family hits the shithead lottery.
They had a march on 019 after she died, led by another jailbird shithead, Aaron Patterson. A 10-1 was called at the station, almost Broken Arrow.
Aaron Patterson is now doing 30 years in a federal joint. This after he turned down a $4 million settlement for past bullshit. Oh, Aaron Patterson got sentenced to 30 years after George Ryan (no relation to MR) gave him a pardon. Way to go George!
why's the coroner barred from testifying?
I wish I could make it. RIP Rick
You arrest someone if they need medical attention make sure they get it, lockup is lockup, your responsibility. Cop killers different story, burn in hell asshole.
O.T. Part 1 Test Results
A lot of people are wondering when will we get the results of the CPD Sergeant's test part 1? I emailed the company and they told me to email the city of Chicago. They provide me with their email address. I think it was police-applications@cityofchicago.org I am not too sure. But here is what they said; the test results for part one of the sergeant's test will be out in mid December. Hang tight guys and gals, most of you probably passed.
10/28/2013 02:41:00 AM
Amen brother/sister! Seems like the comraderie between officers on the south and west sides has always been way tighter than those nicer places.
OT: But SCC maybe you can help out with this minor issue. I tried calling FOP but only talk to Cathy Moore with the attitude or her sister who now works for FOP in office. Wouldn't know them to see them but get blown off by both especially the older one with an attitude. Been retired since 2004 but would like to have an update on deceased members-my brothers and sisters whom passed. Instead they post notices of Deceased long after the Services. And employment for off duty-retired is 3 yrs old. Know they were never the Police, or maybe a yr or 2, but can we get FOP to keep us updated without an attitude. OMG
That's the problem with this cpd no care for fellow officers and their fate. No one gives a shit about each other and that's the truth.
From a retired guy: It's war on Police,the Military, NRA. and all conservative people by progressive dumbocrats who for the last five years have tried to bring this country down. Lets stop taking this bullshit from these creations and start fighting back obviously I can't say how I will leave it to your imagination but something must be done and soon or we will loose all our rights although I can't figure out who would want to stop us since they are in the same boat as us. Preserve our Nation and vote conservative for all coming elections.......
Don't knock Cathy Moore, she does more work in that office than everyone else combined.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
10/28/2013 02:41:00 AM
Amen brother/sister! Seems like the comraderie between officers on the south and west sides has always been way tighter than those nicer places.
10/28/2013 12:04:00 PM
People who go through trauma and high-emotion stuff together bond more closely. I've worked south, then north, and the north side isn't as close as south. Northside-mids, yeah, more stress and drama, but other than that, no.
That's what watch parties were for, and no matter what you say about straight shifts being healthier for us, shift rotation fostered more camaraderie, too.
Anonymous said...
why's the coroner barred from testifying?
10/28/2013 10:31:00 AM
Cook County doesn't have a coroner.
Where there's smoke there's fire
something is wrong when people die in custody. I took down an attempt strangulation off the bars in lock up and they pulled a universal number and the detectives told me to expect to take time. I didn't because I fought it. At the least they try to hit you for inattention to duTy
you cannot very well say you stood there and watched him die. And he is dead, ipso facto .
"Regarding the Sgt's test, you got to love the pre-assigned test books. The "special" people got the "special" test books."
10/28/2013 08:35:00 AM
Seriously? Preassigned test books? Hahahaha. It's all legit though, right? Only in Chicago.
In my district, if a prisoner needs to go to a hospital then the dss will deny it. Now as a p.o. what do you do? You are fucked either way. If dude dies, then surely the dss won't say "that was my decision to deny him medical care, I take full responsibility". That is why I welcome cameras and recording devices throughout the police station.
Thats an easy one. When the dss denies you taking the prisoner to the hospital, you document it on the arrest report and who denied it. The arrest report has to be approved and put in the system. That isnt really a hard one
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The entire 1st watch from 019 should be there. Absolutely pathetic on their part and save the b.s. excuses cuz I don't care about hearing them! It's a shithole but I'll take the south side solidarity any day!
10/28/2013 02:41:00 AM
ok tough guy take the south side.
And if the other officers did there job they would not be getting sued.
I guess your to busy to show support for one of your own,when u hit on something let me know.
To the retiree that contacted FOP regarding a CURRENT notice on fellow members that have passed...
I won't comment on FOP's response/or lack thereof but, if you send an identifiable email to: phask1@comcast.net
once approved, you will get a 'daily' current obituary of all police, fire members that have passed.
He's a member of the CPD Peer Support and a dedicated member.
God Bless them all.
Trial for Officer Rick Francis
The Defense continues tomorrow-
Thank you for all the Officers that came- the family
felt the support- Rick's family doesn't know who
is from what district - all they know is they were supported today by a room full of Chicago Police Officers.
Thank you to ALL who came-
Court- 29 October 2013
Time- 11:00 am
Room 302
They are planning closing arguments
Wednesday- 30 October 13
Time 9:00 am
Room 302-
Will post Wednesdays info tomorrow to make
sure-
OT: The hearing for Mike Shields is scheduled to take place tomorrow at 5:00pm at FOP. Rumor has it Mike is going to try to keep the details from the membership by closing the meeting and excluding everyone from witnessing it.
He already picked his friends to judge his guilt or innocence. Now this bullshit? Everyone should at least make an appearance. It will be interesting to see how he handles it. He has got to be stopped and put in his place.
Dont they have a website maintained by Mr. Honest Rich Augular. Probably could put all that info on the site or email it to the members if they didn't want people to see what really goes on there. Plus...am I the only one that noticed this is the first time the FOP didnt send out a good luck to all the members taking the SGT's test. Just shows you how self involved they are over there.
Rick Francis trial today, much better turn out. Officers filled the room, and stood out in hallway. Trial is in hands of defense and they expect to have closing arguments by Wednesday. Please keep showing!
I am studying my ass off for the sergeant's test. Sometimes I feel like I am wasting my time. Because 30% of the spots to merit candidates. Then God only knows how many people are in the secret study groups where answers are handed to them. But I will give this a chance. I've always been a good student and book smart. I would rather give it a good chance and aim higher. Rather than constantly complain and not work hard for it to only later regret it. At times though it is disheartening. I wish the whole process was on the up and up.
Anonymous said...
OT: But SCC maybe you can help out with this minor issue. I tried calling FOP but only talk to Cathy Moore with the attitude or her sister who now works for FOP in office. Wouldn't know them to see them but get blown off by both especially the older one with an attitude. Been retired since 2004 but would like to have an update on deceased members-my brothers and sisters whom passed. Instead they post notices of Deceased long after the Services. And employment for off duty-retired is 3 yrs old. Know they were never the Police, or maybe a yr or 2, but can we get FOP to keep us updated without an attitude. OMG
First off - Kathy Moore was most definitely the Police and ended up getting railroaded off the job thanks to a couple of scumbags who wouldn't stand up and take their medicine. Instead they let Kathy and Jimmy take the rap for them.
Secondly, most of the time the FOP doesn't find out about a retired member passing until after the services. My advice is that YOU ought to stay in touch with YOUR friends ... maybe then you'd be in the loop when they pass.
SCC- could you please make sure I posted the right dates
For Rick's trial
29 October 2013
30 October 2013
Thank you
Fop MTG on 29 Oct to be a closed board mtg
Only in this backwards country can you be a criminal and still profit from our court system. Any other country and you would be left to rot in a hole somewhere and no one would care if you had chest pains or stomach ache. The lawyers and politicians have built a system where internet access, premium medical care, and cable tv have become a god given right to these prisoners. Meanwhile, officers are subjected to fighting and handling these bottom feeders with little to no reprucussions to the offenders for their behavior. The criminal of the new millennium has more rights and protection than the taxpayer and law enforcement. There was a time when those in prison were expected to work while serving time and be productive, until a lawyer argued it was violating their "rights". Now, we live in a society that forces senior citizens to work until they drop because they cannot afford to retire, while healthy young men smoke dope, watch tv, and run phone scams from prison all on the tax payer dime. Unreal.
scuttle butt!!!!!!!!!!!..!!!.!.!.!.!.!.
88 (police officers) re taking test because test site was overwhelming can anyone verify this ??
Per Roberts Rules of order all disciplinary tribunals to be in executive session only board Members allowed to be present.
RRO are very specific, the interesting thing is we will see if the chair of the discipline comm. will allow members to present questions during trial
Kathy Moore has always been helpful on the phone, in person and with any benefits for one of our own. I've never had a problem with Kathy. She's great. Dealing with us isn't always an easy thing to do.
A hearty "Go Fuck Yourselves" to the officers that say the officers are tighter and support each other more on the south and west sides.
I have worked in units in all parts of the city for the past 28 years. The one constant is that when push comes to shove--everybody (with the exception of the rare asshole) comes together.
You have workers in every district and dogs in every district, good bosses in every district and total bastards in every district.
Nobody has a corner on being "the real police" We all are in the same boat, just some are aft, some astern, some amidships.
Add a little more fiber to your diet, you'll feel a whole lot better.
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Anonymous said...
From a retired guy: It's war on Police,the Military, NRA. and all conservative people by progressive dumbocrats who for the last five years have tried to bring this country down. Lets stop taking this bullshit from these creations and start fighting back obviously I can't say how I will leave it to your imagination but something must be done and soon or we will loose all our rights although I can't figure out who would want to stop us since they are in the same boat as us. Preserve our Nation and vote conservative for all coming elections.......
Only in this backwards country can you be a criminal and still profit from our court system. Any other country and you would be left to rot in a hole somewhere and no one would care if you had chest pains or stomach ache. The lawyers and politicians have built a system where internet access, premium medical care, and cable tv have become a god given right to these prisoners. Meanwhile, officers are subjected to fighting and handling these bottom feeders with little to no reprucussions to the offenders for their behavior. The criminal of the new millennium has more rights and protection than the taxpayer and law enforcement. There was a time when those in prison were expected to work while serving time and be productive, until a lawyer argued it was violating their "rights". Now, we live in a society that forces senior citizens to work until they drop because they cannot afford to retire, while healthy young men smoke dope, watch tv, and run phone scams from prison all on the tax payer dime. Unreal.
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The offender hadn't even been sentenced yet. Calm the fuck down. A human being needed medical attention and that human being didn't receive it. Unreal.
Secondly, most of the time the FOP doesn't find out about a retired member passing until after the services. My advice is that YOU ought to stay in touch with YOUR friends ... maybe then you'd be in the loop when they pass.
10/28/2013 06:39:00 PM
Yeah, maybe they'll call you to let you know they've died. Huh?
To the uninformed idiot putting down 1st watch midnights. First of all the old broad swallowed a balloon filled with either cocaine or heroin and never told anyone, said balloon burst in her gut causing her to od and die. Sounds like she committed suicide. Next, were you there for the 10-1 called at the station for this? There was nothing but solidarity. Stay on your precious south side as you cannot make it north, you have no idea what solidarity is. We are here for each other, the city and the asshats that run it do not care about any one of us. If you wish to only look out for guys in your district fine, then do not get detailed anywhere, do not work CTA, VRI, etc as you will not look out for whomever you are working with due to the fact they are not from whatever craphole district you come from.
That rant done, I still wish you the best and to remain safe and get home every night. Just please remember we are all together in this.
The offender hadn't even been sentenced yet. Calm the fuck down. A human being needed medical attention and that human being didn't receive it. Unreal.
Elevate a scumbag drug dealing low life to level of human- you're a joke. You have a bleeding heart for all these jagoffs who go out to rob, steal, thieve, kill, and deal then cry about every ailment they have when they finally get caught. Don't commit crime if you're too sick to get locked up! You must be the same clown who calls 911 for every pissbum you see sleeping on the bus bench cuz you're "concerned".
Attn. SCC- It would be greatly appreciated if you could
Make this a thread-
Trial For Officer Rick Francis
Closing arguments will be held tomorrow. Robin
Johnson is not only being charged with the murder
of Rick Francis, but with the attempt murder of 4
other officers who responded and were backing
Rick up that night.
This could be ANY one of us, at ANY time, at ANY
point in our careers- OUR families could be the ones
In that courtroom- Rick's family needs and really appreciates the support-
Date - Wednesday - 30 October 2013
Time- 10:30
Room- 400 * note the room has been changed*
This is a larger courtroom - We need to fill it-
The retired captain is NOT dd, I wouldn't support her either.
Some 19th District officers would gladly be at that bitch's trial at 26/Cal if they weren't stuck in the Dirksen Building being defendants in the so-called "community activist's" case. Don't blame those what had nothing to do with the court scheduling.
Turns out every PO should all be glad the coroner wasn't called to testify, because if the CPD/defense attorney was rumored to have killed the dope dealer, who swallowed six foil packets of heroin and was asked by several officers if she was OK, if she wanted to go to the hospital, the coroner would say the attorney did it! With "help" like that, who needs enemies?!
All the dealer's supposed supporters neglected to tell anyone for more than 24 hours that crucial information either. She killed herself!
Closing arguments were today, the room packed with people, many of whom are reportedly from the Loevy & Loevy law firm - isn't that special? No court tomorrow, back in the Dirksen building probably Thursday.
Great show up today in court by male and female CPD Officers. Even the shit birds friends noticed it. I'm a Trooper who sat in the back row and unfortunately had to leave early but was glad to back my brothers in blue. God only knows how many times your presence has saved us on our stops. Be safe out there.......
Anonymous said...
To the uninformed idiot putting down 1st watch midnights. First of all the old broad swallowed a balloon filled with either cocaine or heroin and never told anyone, said balloon burst in her gut causing her to od and die. Sounds like she committed suicide. Next, were you there for the 10-1 called at the station for this? There was nothing but solidarity. Stay on your precious south side as you cannot make it north, you have no idea what solidarity is. We are here for each other, the city and the asshats that run it do not care about any one of us. If you wish to only look out for guys in your district fine, then do not get detailed anywhere, do not work CTA, VRI, etc as you will not look out for whomever you are working with due to the fact they are not from whatever craphole district you come from.
That rant done, I still wish you the best and to remain safe and get home every night. Just please remember we are all together in this.
10/29/2013 09:43:00 AM
I was there for the 10-1and I remember shithead aaron patterson, now doing 30 years, leading the "march." Best move he ever made was turning down the $4 million settlement offered to him.
We had cars there from 019, 018, 020, 023, 014, 017, A3, A5 and perhaps others. That was good to see police form a human ring around the station and cover every entrance by foot and car.
The woman never said she swallowed a bag of dope, had she said those magic words she would have gone to the hospital lights and siren. She didn't want to lose her dope. Not until the bag of dope popped inside her and she keeled over was there any indication anything was wrong.
I love how these dope dealers and gun runners and multiple felons like aaron patterson and this bitch sudden'y become raise to the level of "community activists."
And "community activist" aaron patterson has a projected release date from Federal Custody of 12-26-2030. Bet some of the starch will be gone from his sails by then.
The offender hadn't even been sentenced yet. Calm the fuck down. A human being needed medical attention and that human being didn't receive it. Unreal.
10/29/2013 12:34:00 AM
How about: "A sick individual became a junkie by their own hand and ingested a huge amount of narcotics rather than have the police inventory it. That huge amount killed said individual while they were in police custody. There was no way for the police to know about how much narcotics the individual ingested voluntarily and that individual died as a result of their own actions. Attorneys for the family of the dead individual are now trying to fleece the taxpayers of a large amount of cash for the sick individuals own asinine actions."
Isn't that MORE correct Mr. Attorney?
Officer Francis trial....GUILTY of murder.
Not guilty on Attempt Murder of responding officers.
So are these female officers who didn't do there job going to lose there job??? A woman died. Did anything happen to them in court yet??
Contrary to the low opinion of some, the members of CPD - sworn, civilian, and retired - did their jobs and they're not going to lose "there" jobs.
You would know that if you were one of us, so how did YOU get on the police blog anyway
10/31 10:15?
Jury deliberated yesterday, still at it today.
Support 7/19 - who could be any of us
The 7/19 jury is in its third day of deliberations.
Good luck to the officers, detention aide, and retired captain.
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