Free Rides
Once again, ridiculous accommodation to lawbreakers:
- Working CTA special last weekend on a fixed post @ chicago redline. Large group of urban teens enter the station and start to loiter in the front of the turnstiles. No money, no fare cards, no nothing! 1800X enters and tells the CTA employee to let the large group on a train so they don't go back upstairs to the street. WTF?
They got downtown without money, then mayhem, then a free ride out of downtown. Fucking brilliant.
Labels: from the comments, un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
94 Comments:
1800x Waste of a Badge.
That's called leadership. It's the new CPD model. As long as there is no crime in your box you are golden. Push the problem down the line. Screw you CTA workers and riders. Problem solved in 018 is all that matters.
Why didn't he have them all locked up for criminal trespass?
OT: Maybe you can give us some insight on the word" Loitering" being illegal/improper to use when doing contact cards. 003 roll call supervisors say 35th street and the 3w (ppo sgt.) desk Sgt. P does not like the word. Its a terrible thing to tell New officers its illegal or used improperly VS we don't like the word so stop using it.
Actually I think that was a good call...It's the Old Shoo..And 2-P
And the clueless politicians ask, "where should we cut spending?"
And if they had stuck around, maybe someone would have been robbed, or even killed. Jeez, never waste a moment to second guess a management decision. Would any of YOU wanted a group of urban punks to loiter around at the station in Jefferson Park? I didn't think so. And we know how cops today are all so willing to go out there and make a mass arrest!
That is and has been the problem at District 018 for a long time, incompetent white shirts like 1800X; who just arrived about 7 months ago. Most of those white shirts that have been at District 018 for over 10 yrs. have never worked anywhere else, but 018. They did their blue shirt time and now their white shirt time in 018, so why expect any thing other than incompetency from them. The tax payers of Chicago are on the hook for about $2.5 million as a result of the actions of a handful of sergeants, lieutenants and Cpt. all on the days shift. Go figure.
Send them back to the hood and keep them otherwise they will fuck up a bunker.
Not 018's problem...Give that boss a raise.
We demand free everything or wel be a marchin!!
- Jesse Jackson Sr.
Let's give them free cell phones, free rent and free money too as that should help.......errrrr ummmm....never mind.
I get what 1800x is trying to do but at the same time he's really contributing to the overall problem.
Society is lost. The right approach would be much more physical.
1800x made the right call and I agree with him. Getting the thugs out of the tourist area is key. We need tourists to visit this city or we are going to become Detroit. Personally, I wish these thugs were locked away or contained in a secure gated community. Secure gated community (prison).
They all used their GangVentra cards.
1800X took the easy way out. They should have made the pricks walk and arrest them the minute they step out of line.
Actually, pretty good tactical move. Kinda surprised it came from her.
just helping her little honor students
only the sharpest and brightest
1800 X is a Moron! You are working Special because there are not enough cops assigned to Mass Transit. So whom does 1800 X think is going to monitor and babysit the animals when the train leaves the station? In other words to get "the children" out of his District, he just launches them into the random direction of someone else's District! If they have no fare let them walk back to Da Hood.
I understand WHY 18XX would do this. Just get them the fuck away from me, and out of my district.
The problem is that 18XX has just rewarded their bad behavior. Act like an asshole, have the Chicago Police bow down to you.
These urban youths are to unintelligent to understand why 18XX did what he/she did. They are shockingly fucking stupid.
Be sure they also laughed at the Chicago Police all the way home
How can that be legal? A cop cant order someone to commit a crime
Once again being rewarded for bad behavior. The Chicago way...
Anonymous said...
OT: Maybe you can give us some insight on the word" Loitering" being illegal/improper to use when doing contact cards. 003 roll call supervisors say 35th street and the 3w (ppo sgt.) desk Sgt. P does not like the word. Its a terrible thing to tell New officers its illegal or used improperly VS we don't like the word so stop using it.
6/24/2014 12:43:00 AM
Write them an ANOV, citing the ordinance number and a contact card also.
A two-fer!
Put'em on the train and then flood the subway. Problem solved. Just bought a new Glock 19 for the firepower.
loiter Use Loiter in a sentence
loi·ter [loi-ter] Show IPA
verb (used without object)
1.
to linger aimlessly or as if aimless in or about a place: to loiter around the bus terminal.
2.
to move in a slow, idle manner, making purposeless stops in the course of a trip, journey, errand, etc.: to loiter on the way to work.
3.
to waste time or dawdle over work: He loiters over his homework until one in the morning.
verb (used with object)
4.
to pass (time) in an idle or aimless manner (usually followed by away ): to loiter away the afternoon in daydreaming.
NOT criminal in of its self. That PPO Sgt might be saving you a lawsuit.
Really guy?! Do you want to process a bunch of juveniles on your day off. I'm sure if you locked them up they'd change their ways, right? Since the wilding started a few years ago the bosses have been doing it. Push them to the redline, let them on for free and get them back to the hood. 1800X is soft, but that was a good call.
Let them ride bikes on our numerous unused bike lanes.
Free, Free, Free !!!
That's called common sense. They get on the train head back home. Would you have them leave,or do 50 reports for damage to property or vehicle?
That is not old school , that is a coward.
Was he a merit all the way up ?
Send them back where they came from, good call 1800X.
SCC you must have never worked down at that red line stop, or downtown for that matter. These asshole kids are like cockroaches, no matter what you do they keep coming back. Lock them up and they are out of the station before we are, brilliant! I have been down there plenty of times dealing with the nonsense. I sat and watched as coppers ushered these morons down into the chicago/state line only to watch the exact same morons come back up on the other side. My partner and I walked into the actual station and these morons didn't even know how to use a fare card. And even though I hate giving freeloaders even more free shit, putting them back on the train to go back to the ghetto worked everytime. And as another person stated, if they aren't downtown anymore they can't rob or battery anyone either!
"push the stiff across the river Fred"
good call actually get them the fuck out of there
Sounds like a good call to me. But of course you knew better but did nothing. You should be embarrassed 1800X had to be there handling your job.
Maybe we should consider a WW2 Warsaw type Ghetto plan. Put huge barbed wire fences around all Ghetto neighborhoods and patrol the outside. Less manpower and money saved. Provide food and medicine for all inside the wire. Problem solved.
CTA unveils artwork for 8 Red Line South stations
5:41 p.m. CDT, June 23, 2014
"The CTA unveiled renderings of original artwork installations for eight of the Red Line’s south branch stations Monday at the DuSable Museum. The artwork serves as the final piece of the $425 million Red Line South reconstruction project, which began in May 2013. The project restored the 10.2-mile stretch of track from Cermak-Chinatown to 95th Street.
"Separate art installations are planned for 95th Street Station, which will undergo its own $240 million renovation.
"The $590,400 project is to be paid for by the Federal Transit Administration..."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-cta-unveils-artwork-for-8-red-line-south-stations-20140623,0,5880096.story
“Each piece of artwork really incorporates the flavor of the community...”
Great. Can't wait to see the murals, the street scenes entitled --
* "Wild In The Park"
* "Slingin' On The Corner"
* "Po-lice Shot Him In The Back!"
* "Turnin' His Life Around"
* "Liquor Store Sunrise"
and the perennial favorite --
* "Huh?"
You answered your own question: 1800X.
I agree that it was the best decision to send them back South.
Ret. Sgt
And if they had stuck around, maybe someone would have been robbed, or even killed. Jeez, never waste a moment to second guess a management decision. Would any of YOU wanted a group of urban punks to loiter around at the station in Jefferson Park? I didn't think so. And we know how cops today are all so willing to go out there and make a mass arrest!
I'm all about the mass arrest, but then again I'm often refered to as thirsty.
I would have done the same thing. Get them back home, hook or crook. Why leave them in 018 broke, to rob and cause more mayhem. You can't lock them all up, no manpower. It was a good move. Lesser of the evils.
So the alternative is to leave them all down there to perpetuate the mayhem. That was probably the best decision considering the circumstances.
How about you officer? Did you question them, run their names or did you just stand by and wait for a supervisor to come along and make a decision for you?
That's been going on for the past couple yrs put em on for free to get them off Chicago ave they take the train to grand get off and walk back. Let's expand the red line to 130 th st. LoL Doomed !
Don't address the real problem. Just continue to kick the can down the road. The only problem is that one day it will be a dead end road!
1800X did what he/she thought was best at the time.
A whole subway station full of ghetto "youths" is a powder keg just waiting to ignite.
Here's a thought... place two officers at each redline stop to ensure each and everyone of these aspiring rappers are paying their fares to get on the train.
20 or so officers is a lot more manageable than an entire district, special, and visiting tact teams dealing with this mess.
Out of sight, out of mind! might have been a good move, better then adding victims to the ever growing list.
Maybe Rahm should deduct the fairs from 1800x check. What a fucknin jag off wasting my tax money! After all if those ventra cards didn't work they would be billed. And then 1800x wouldn't be so fast to give away taxpayers money. Besides the money he's stealing for his clouted out invented meritorious spot.
Anonymous said...
Actually I think that was a good call...It's the Old Shoo..And 2-P
6/24/2014 12:56:00 AM
No bad move 1800x. If they are breaking the law. Lock em up not help em escape. By breaking more laws.
Merit political hacks afraid to make an arrest .
Call for a few assist cars and a wagon you pos, afraid of his own shadow .
Hey 018th District you got a star and gun, lock them up you don't need a bad sergeant, lieutenant ox 1800X to come and make alternate plans.
The problem is Mass Transit is hiding somewhere else and too many of the 018th District rangers have never crossed Orleans St when Cabrini was going on. 018th = pussy police, Ha ,HA bitches!
Retired PO SOG
Anonymous said...
And if they had stuck around, maybe someone would have been robbed, or even killed. Jeez, never waste a moment to second guess a management decision. Would any of YOU wanted a group of urban punks to loiter around at the station in Jefferson Park? I didn't think so. And we know how cops today are all so willing to go out there and make a mass arrest!
6/24/2014 01:37:00 AM
So great, they left 18. Did this brainiac 1800X make sure they went SOUTH and not further North to continue their carnage?
Don't have the manpower...
Don't have he wagons...
Don't have the back-up from City Hall...
I wasn't there but that might have been the best move to get the Wilders out of the area.
A wilding we will go..a wilding we will go...hi ho the dairyo...a wilding we will go
You call for a few extra cars and a wagon. Next tell them to pay and get on train or leave the station. Why legitimize their behavior?
(OT) rahm sold us more stupid Kool-aid and we drank it! Wonder how much him and his criminal crew got out of this? Our bills are high and will skyrocket more! Will the animals,savages,illegals have to pay? Nope we will be forced to subsidize this criminal lifestyle!
http://fox6now.com/2014/06/23/wisconsin-energy-buying-integrys-for-9-1-billion/
That is and has been the problem at District 018 for a long time, incompetent white shirts like ..........
You are absolutely right, the white shirts should get on your lazy ass and force you to work. I'm positive you are the problem big mouth. White shirts shouldn't have to direct you constantly but that can change.
The tax payers of Chicago are on the hook for about $2.5 million as a result of the actions of a handful of sergeants, lieutenants and Cpt. all on the days shift. Go figure.....
Wow what a dumb statement , the "white shirts " should take notice and make someone like you work, sounds like you are looking for direction. Then you can cry and file a lawsuit of being picked on, dumbass
1800x would not give free rides to just any group of individuals. She must of had a very good reason to allow this group to ride the train for free.
Put them in a wagon and drop the honor students off in hum older park .
Does the term Wildings come from the T.V. show Game of Thrones ? The group that lives beyond the Wall.
This is part of the change that we were promised nearly seven years ago.
these little shit birds need a good ass whoopin! All this touchy feely policing does not work and this kind of shit would have never happened 20yrs ago. Police have never been liked but they were Feared at one time and that went along way. Today not only are police not feared or liked but not respected at all. All for the sake of political correctness and pandering. Well now live with the results you liberal jack asses!
The white shirts aren't the problem, you are. Take your badge and make an arrest or are you too afraid and need a white shirt to direct you?
Get the little darlings out of the tourist area? The POS should have never been allowed in the tourist areas to begin with.
The liberals in this city want political correctness. Well now they got it up to their noses and are now aghast as to the sights of these POS and their actions. Because of liberal PC the rest of us have to live with these POS wilding near the lake front. There is nothing to reverse these acts of wilding, as the gates have not only been opened to the little darlings, but also torn from its hinges. Any measure now used to stop the POS will be deemed too harsh by the liberals.
hey jackasses, 1800x is a woman.
1800x would not give free rides to just any group of individuals. She must of had a very good reason to allow this group to ride the train for free
&None and No Authority to do So
Then again no training for commanders. I think she should have to pay for this out of her own pocket. CR# issued? Or Inspector General complaint?
Either way she broke the law. Police cant just make up the law. What if that was a business? So now tax payers have to pay for her incredible idiotic stupidly. Only is lawless clouted Shitcago Chiraq.
I'll make up shit while im on my beat too. My justice my rules
I am the law!!!!!!!!!
The tax payers of Chicago are on the hook for about $2.5 million as a result of the actions of a handful of sergeants, lieutenants and Cpt. all on the days shift. Go figure.....
AMEN we are lead by goofs
Once had asgt tell me to give illegals a ride in my squad to Catholic Charities in Pilsen. I said what are they charged with and why am I taking them there. He said because "I said so" and I said no and he didn't know what to do.
Remember POs don't have to follow unlawful orders.
Wow what a dumb statement , the "white shirts " should take notice and make someone like you work, sounds like you are looking for direction. Then you can cry and file a lawsuit of being picked on, dumbass
No your just STUPID and drunk on your dream of power.
You have no power so just be a jerk. That's CPD leadership. You wouldn't last a day in the USMC.
Semper Fi
1800 needs to go!
1800 commander,
If you would have arrested them then perhaps the wildings would stop. Instead all you encourage lawlessness. Why am I pay such high taxes,fees and your salary for this lack of leadership. I will express my disdain to my Alderperson and Mayor Emmanuel.
Good Citizen on 1424 N. Dearborn Parkway
When I work cta special employment I wear blinders. If it's not time and a half... I see nothing!
So if 1800x would have called for a mass arrest and said put his name in the first line of the arrest report. This blog would've ripped him a new asshole? Why didn't some copper just take the initiative and say fuck it and start arresting people. Why because this whole department is balless and has no ovaries from the bottom up. Done period end of story. KMA
Why would anybody work their day off for straight time?
Send them back where they came from, good call 1800X.
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You are an idiot. You must be a Alpha girl. 1800X showed them, not they will vome back the next day with double the numbers and get a free ride back shit land.
OT: Maybe you can give us some insight on the word" Loitering" being illegal/improper to use when doing contact cards. 003 roll call supervisors say 35th street and the 3w (ppo sgt.) desk Sgt. P does not like the word. Its a terrible thing to tell New officers its illegal or used improperly VS we don't like the word so stop using it.
6/24/2014 12:43:00 AM
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The court found our loitering ordinance unconstitutional and said that loitering is not illegal.
Henceforth came our current gang and narcotics loitering ordinance with court guidance.
If it ain't a designated spot, it isn't illegal to loiter period. It does not give you reasonable suspicion to make an investigative stop.
You need to find another lawful reason besides just loitering in the area so that the totality of circumstances would give you reasonable suspicion to make the stop.
I'm just saying.
Reminds me of the days when the old wagon dumped people off at another districts boarder.
Another useless, merit hack making a bad decision empowering these mutts to laugh at us!
In the old days, fkn wagons would have been called and all the "fine upstanding citizens" would have been given ONE order to leave or off to the lock-p they went!
Oh wait, my bad. WE DON'T HAVE ANY FKN WAGONS ANYMORE! I'm soooo glad I only have a couple more years to (suffer) go!
Boys, boys! Everybody is getting worked up over nothing. Let all these MFers come down here and get as greasy as they want. My signs at 69th and the redline for free McDonald's and IPhones at Chicago and State are working. Just sit back and watch the show. Two more Michigan Ave. days and I have enough to pay cash for a new bathroom. Let the cash flow and let burn!
SCC, I cannot fathom how you could label that Captain's actions "un-fucking believable." It was the
most prudent solution to an ongoing problem: teens wandering about in touristland, looking to get into trouble. Get them on their way, away from the tourists we so desperately need as the infrastructure here crumbles all around us.
It's apparent that the people who run this blog are shortsighted when it comes to ongoing problems here in the city.
1800 needs to go!
1800 commander,
If you would have arrested them then perhaps the wildings would stop. Instead all you encourage lawlessness. Why am I pay such high taxes,fees and your salary for this lack of leadership. I will express my disdain to my Alderperson and Mayor Emmanuel.
Good Citizen on 1424 N. Dearborn Parkway
Dear model citizen:
Perhaps you should ask a police officer who is informed on such issues what it costs to house a pack of these young urban thugs in a city lockup; what it entails when one (or more) of them claim to 'be sick' or 'pregnant' when they are placed in the lockup, necessitating a trip to the hospital, for free medical care (and as many tests as the hospital can run up, which we all have to pay for) under police guard. That's a police officer we could all use on the street, who's babysitting the leech at the hospital. And let's not count the food that will have to be doled out to these misunderstood youth as they sit in a holding cell; Oops...did one of them secretly digest those controlled substances that were hidden in their buttcheeks/vaginas, areas we really can't look into without a search warrant, and that would have to be performed by a medical person (which necessitates a trip back to the hospital, under police guard, and let's not forget, that a cop that could be on the street)? So you see, model citizen, there are some serious inherent costs that the city incurs whenever such a mass arrest is undertaken; and let's not forget that oftentimes in such incidents, officers are injured, in which case that officer will need time off to heal; he/she will also need to be transported to a hospital for examination/treatment. The costs of that will also be picked up by the city. Overtime will need to be paid to replace that officer (possibly for several months). I won't even go into the numerous complaints that will be filed, alleging excessive force, among other things, by the arrestee, often at the urging of their public defender lawyers. I hope this tutorial has given you a snapshot of the big picture with regard to your proposed mass arrests, good citizen of N. State Parkway. And you're welcome.
Anonymous said...
OT: Maybe you can give us some insight on the word" Loitering" being illegal/improper to use when doing contact cards. 003 roll call supervisors say 35th street and the 3w (ppo sgt.) desk Sgt. P does not like the word. Its a terrible thing to tell New officers its illegal or used improperly VS we don't like the word so stop using it.
6/24/2014 12:43:00 AM
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When the city defended that original ordinance law, the city lawyers could not define "loitering." The private lawyers just stood by as the city lawyers embarrassed themselves. The officer is responsible for justifying reasonable suspicion or probable cause. An order from a supervisor neither protects your job nor saves you from a lawsuit. So, the people who are telling you to stop using loitering might be doing you a favor.
Keep Voting Demacrats into office!
Whatever happened to "No victim, No crime?"
Why spend Dept. resources on a mass arrest where not even one of them will spend 1 day in jail?
2-P and off to lunch. Vs. tying up a wagon, and two or three cars on B.S.!!! A no brainer IMHO
The gangbangers have been operating like that for years, maybe 40 - 50 years. That is how they follow their victims downtown to their jobs and then demand money all day in exchange to stop following them and vandalizing property, stealing from every business and shootings and killings.
A passenger got into a fight with another rider on the CTA amd the driver called the police but told the guy who was fighting and had a handgun to "go away, you better go." That is why I do not ride CTA if I don't have to and that is why the gangbangers ride free.
SCC, I cannot fathom how you could label that Captain's actions "un-fucking believable." It was the
most prudent solution to an ongoing problem: teens wandering about in touristland, looking to get into trouble. Get them on their way, away from the tourists we so desperately need as the infrastructure here crumbles all around us.
It's apparent that the people who run this blog are shortsighted when it comes to ongoing problems here in the city.
So they come downtown by jumping turnstiles (if reports from the south side are to believed), wreak havoc downtown, then get put on a train to go home for free....and they learn exactly what?
When we were growing up, we didn't jump the turnstiles and we didn't go anywhere without return fare in our pocket. That included downtown, ball games, day trips. If we spent the money on another sno-cone, we bummed the difference from friends or we walked. No free rides.
We think that you are the shortsighted one seeing as how once again, no consequences mean no learning on the part of the wilding teens.
My daughter and friends are going to rush st this week end . Will 1800 get her and 10 friends a free ride .
. I hope this tutorial has given you a snapshot of the big picture with regard to your proposed mass arrests, good citizen of N. State Parkway. And you're welcome.
6/25/2014 09:08:00 AM
A policeman will always find a way to do police work. A dog will always find a way out of any work at all.
From a policeman
So they come downtown by jumping turnstiles (if reports from the south side are to believed), wreak havoc downtown, then get put on a train to go home for free....and they learn exactly what?
When we were growing up, we didn't jump the turnstiles and we didn't go anywhere without return fare in our pocket. That included downtown, ball games, day trips. If we spent the money on another sno-cone, we bummed the difference from friends or we walked. No free rides.
Obviously SCC, we were raised with very similar values, which by and large don't exist much anymore. We can't police today's society by using our family values as today's incident reporting guide, so to speak. We'll only be hurting ourselves. 1800X, whoever she is, made a prudent decision, and I support it. The costs which would have been incurred by housing a group of 50 to 100 miscreants (not to mention the potential injuries to officers, complaints filed, large numbers of I Bonds written within 2 hours of housing them, and even the silly lawsuit or two filed due to the mass arrest) just aren't worth it today. I think that most police officers, taking in the bigger picture here, can see that as well.
Bet most merit captains and lieutenants could not pass the sergeant test . Bust them back to p.o. save the pension .
1800X, whoever she is, made a prudent decision, and I support it. The costs which would have been incurred by housing a group of 50 to 100 miscreants (not to mention the potential injuries to officers, complaints filed, large numbers of I Bonds written within 2 hours of housing them, and even the silly lawsuit or two filed due to the mass arrest) just aren't worth it today. I think that most police officers, taking in the bigger picture here, can see that as well.
6/26/2014 08:56:00 AM
I bet you wouldn't be supporting her if you were on that subway. How about we enforce our laws. It seems to have worked up until now. I remember an old timer telling me that if we didn't handle it, then the next poor copper had to and the idiot would be worse. I don't think that has changed.
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