Body Cameras
- Police in Ferguson, Mo. are now wearing body cameras to record their interactions with protesters and the public.
More and more law enforcement agencies are looking at the cameras as a powerful crime-fighting tool. So could Chicago be next?
[...] We’ve all seen dash-cam videos that capture police officers in action. Some police agencies are also using body cameras.
The evidence they provide is hard to dispute and part of the reason Chicago Police Supt. Garry McCarthy says his department is looking into using the cameras under a pilot program.
“We’re not afraid to do enforcement. The point is to make sure we articulate it properly, and body cameras, I think, would back up that articulation,” McCarthy said Monday.
He says his department has been working on the program for six to eight months, and some officers have volunteered to wear the cameras. But there’s no timetable on if, or when, they’ll actually be used on patrol.
“There’s going to be contractual obligations that we’re going to have to probably negotiate with unions and so on, moving forward,” McCarthy said.
He added: “At the end of the day, I endorse it, but I’m not sure if the officers are going to feel the same way.”
Anyone have any stats on the cameras currently in squad cars? From what we can see in our little corners of the Department, it's gone exactly as predicted:
- the City bought the low-bid cameras;
- they hired some hillbillies with rented trucks from Arkansas to install the things;
- they burned out electrical wiring, PDTs and other systems because the vehicles weren't built with that kind of electrical capacity in mind (which voided out a shitload of warranties when Ford found out what they were doing - but don't mention that around);
- then they've spent exactly ZERO dollars on servicing and maintaining the cameras, meaning the out-of-service ratio has to be astronomical.
Rahm doesn't (or says he doesn't) have the kind of money lying around that it would take to equip the entire Department with body cameras - not with the looming bills and balloon payments coming due shortly. And if it follows the formula listed above, it'd be just about as useless and wasteful as PODs and in-car cameras are already.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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None of the cameras in my district work. Of course, that isn't saying much since we have very few cars available on a daily basis. The warning lights on the ones we have are all on but nobody wants to down them since there aren't any pool cars. In addition, broken door hinges, auto windows that don't work, no A/C and on and on.
I want one! Gonna test it while I'm taking a personal.
OT, how come no one is talking about this?? Pretty scary stuff:http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/2/missing-libyan-jetliners-raise-fears-terror-attack/
I am a major advocate of the body cameras! I just want the City to give something up in negotiations to get the body cameras.
Buy only what CPD can afford and them maintain and take care of it.
Start at the top and lead by example.
Make sure everyone at the CompStat meeting is wearing one and that it is turned on with a live stream on the net.
Also add the aldermen and the mayor and his crew so that the taxpayers can see what they are getting for their tax dollars
Sgt "Cam # and squad car #?'
PO "Ticket #, and squad car # along w/ a brief one line explanation that the cam isn't working.
The District I work in hasn't had a working squad car cam in so long I don't remember the last X I gave a Sgt an actual #
Will these be "for the children" too?
How will Emanuel make any money from these cameras?
rb
"Rahm doesn't (or says he doesn't) have the kind of money lying around that it would take to equip the entire Department with body cameras - not with the looming bills and balloon payments coming due shortly."
Federal grant?
rb
Who you calling a hillbilly from Arkansas?
FYI the vehicle cameras were installed by 7th generation Irish from Canaryville who took shop classes in lieu of their eighth grade CPS education.
Seriously, where body cameras have been used properly complaints against police have dropped by upwards of 90 percent.
There seem to largely be two things at work. Cops are being more professional and citizens are acting better too.
The only downside I can see to cameras is plaintiff's attorneys who donate a whole lot of money to various politicians will be less generous. As we say in La Canaryville "Se La Vie....belch"
Surf Park ezz ok , Oh Vey
Yeah, I volunteer to wear one two if I'm guaranteed a meritorious promotion in a few years.
Next nonsense. Oh hello Mr. ISIS, the reason why I'm stopping you is because of XXXXXXX.
Remove the restriction on recording while on duty and let individuals choose to use personal cams until official program in place
The cameras are $50! Get your own! If you're legit they'll keep you out of trouble. If you're a jack booted thug then you shouldn't have a badge!
Like the video of fired State's Attorney Naughton who took a swing at a p.o. after being arrested fir battery and criminal damage to property? She was acquitted by Judge Calabrese. A crooked judge that obviously gave a professional courtesy to one of his own. Videos of what we do don't mean anything unless it's to our detriment.
I'll wear one when McBottomsUp wears one as he galavants from ginmill to ginmill in the Viagra Triangle.
By the way...
When McLastCallMyAss! says: "We’re not afraid to do enforcement. The point is to make sure we articulate it properly, and body cameras, I think, would back up that articulation", it means one thing...
Like law enforcement agencies throughout the nation, McEveryFourthBeerIsOnTheHouse anticipates backlash from the usual ghetto suspects once Officer Darren Wilson is completely exonerated.
The next Civil War is brewing, folks. And it'll make for great history in about 50 years when our great-grandchildren get to see it all POV from an HD "helmet cam".
That's IF their Chinese handlers allow them to read books.
The cameras were put in place to placate a certain segment of the population.
The goal was achieved, their attention has drifted elsewhere and now money will be thrown into the direction of their next concern.
What a waste.
The need for more resources for police to try to maintain any semblance of civilization is generally closely tied to the increase of the welfare class population and the evacuation of the tax base as productive citizens flee the third world conditions.
This creates a vicious cycle and marks pretty much the point of no return.
Detroit 2.0
Another ticket number for us to generate...just what we needed! Brilliant! This department can't even provide enough working PDT's or cars and McCloggedArtery says they've been looking into body cameras? Fuhghettaboutit!!!
Yes, it's a pain and the technology you need vs. what purchasing agents buy is often opposite of each other. But in places that have cameras more often than not they have closed the season on false claims against cops.
Go ahead and put a body camera on me, I will answer my calls, take my 2 personals and half hour lunch and go home. No more proactive police work out of me.
Absolutely right, in the new ford cars, the cameras are shutting down. So no videos are being uploaded. Several new fords have 29,876,678,678 of video which translate to approximately 115 videos that need to be uploaded. But for some reason even if the vehicle is left on, the cameras shut off so the videos never upload. There cameras are not working. This is the city that works.
Well with the police option it has to least to have 100-110 amp alternators with the large battery setup
BUT you are already runnig least three radios a/c on high or fan and heat on high those are on all the time then the lights thats a big draw, flashers and such
Though intermittent still a big draw even not being real time
You probably have a transformer to step up or the voltage for the can, recorder audio and of course just wired in where ever they found a "hot" And ground rather than a fused panel constant slamming of charging and discharging is hard on the internal voltage regulator in the alternator as well as knocking the shit out of the lead plates on the batteries
That's difference between a Rv deep cycle battery and a regular car battery
Can I get a ticket # for a body camera? :)
Some officer's volunteered. Who the fuck are these ass kissers?
They can't/won't/don't even service the in car cameras!
They piggy-backed on a low bid from a southern sheriff department with members of Daley Inc. pocketing A LOT OF THIS MONEY.
They had a bunch of chimps install the damn things so within a short amount of time there were A LOT of vehicles going to the garage for electrical problems.
VOIDED WARRANTIES?
Then Fleet put in an rder for the new Ford Explorer police vehicles...
Ford purpose built those vehicles to used THEIR SHIT which was developed in conjunction.
They said from the beginning...
"We have everything you need for these vehicles that WE developed/tested for compatability and reliability. if YOU fuck around and try to overlay YOUR SHIT, fuck up the electrical suite trying to tap hot wire to run YOUR OBSOLETE NON-COMPATABLE electronics, you WILL void the warranty."
A lot of cars are sitting because they electrical systems are fucked up.
Ford was refusing to sell anymore to the city because of this shit was one story we heard.
Any clarity on this out there?
So...
There is no fucking way this department is going to spring for body cameras... Besides, somebody "impo'tant" is going to get caught on camera and the powers that be won't be able to make it go away.
Too much protection for the street cop and it will fuck up Loevy et al. getting fat on tax payer dollars and it will fuck up the reign of terror of these bad supervisors and bosses.
Had an explorer with less than 3000 miles on it and camera was already busted. In fact all the cameras in 4 are busted !
Must be time for another new park of college stadium.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-police-body-cameras-met-0903-20140903-story.html
Oh man if Chicago Police had personal cameras it would be proof positive the shit that the police have to deal with day after day.
No more "ma baby wuz turning his life around" bs anymore. There would be video proof lil crack wasn't that honor student you think he was..
Black police officers shoot dead black gang banger (Michel Brown types) all the time. There is never any rioting or marching over it. But if the cameras show a white cop putting down a black gang banger thug, the race baiters like Jesse Jackson will be marching and protesting. Race baiting CNN will be all over it too.
Personal cameras would cut down on frivolous lawsuits against the police. So it may be a good idea. But injury attorneys are Rahm Emanuel's good friends and he would want to hurt their business. So expect there to be no cameras.
What is that bandage on his nose?
Did Rahm stop suddenly and with big Garry's nose up his @ss broke it?
So much for the alledged contract being close....6 more months to negotiate this in now
The city/CPD get all kinds of new equipment thru federal grants.
The city/cpd spouts in the media about the new equipment.
The city/cpd NEVER purchase the maintenance agreements.
Hence, once equipment fails it is NEVER repaired.
Because the city/cpd didn't buy the equipment in the first place, they aren't out any real money.
Examples:
- In car cameras
- radiation detection devices (never actually passed on to the rank and file)
- driving simulators (I believe that there were 4 of these)
- shooting simulator (that was the large trailer at the Academy)
I'm sure some of you can come up with other examples of wasted government money.
Didn't the Cook County Sheriff's Department have some type of project that was a total boondoggle that had cameras in it?
Operation Shield? Someone made a ton of money on that - and all that crap never worked.
All I remember was that they laid out a LOT of money, and nothing worked.
Anonymous said...
The cameras are $50! Get your own! If you're legit they'll keep you out of trouble. If you're a jack booted thug then you shouldn't have a badge!
9/03/2014 01:02:00 AM
You're not a cop.
CPD rules and regs come into play first.
as dumb might be in your eyes, dont be surprised when it happens, thats what grants are for, i am sure the feds will send some money here for these...give it 3 years at the most
If they charged and arrested every "citizen" that threatened, spit on, kicked, punched, stabbed at, shot at, drove a car at, threw a dangerous object at a police officer then there isn't a copper out there that wouldn't want to document it with a camera.
The reality is that we are subject to all that and more and there is barely an arrest approved much less a conviction for attacking a police officer compared to the real number of times it happen. The States Attorneys, Judges and every citizen sitting in a jury box thinks that's what we get paid for, to be punching bag. It's not. We are here to enforce the law, keep order and go home to our families at the end of the day.
Camera me up tomorrow, but you better be fair and charge everyone that assaults, batters or flat our tries to kill me with the felony that is on the books - but never applied.
9/02/2014 04:40:00 PM
Second
I would leave it on during #1 & #2. During #2 I will grunt and moan like I am fighting an offender.
Some officer's volunteered. Who the fuck are these ass kissers?
9/03/2014 03:35:00 AM
Um, I think he's lying to the public...
O.T. The NY papers report that NYPD brass are being sent to "twitter school"
Watch out all you CPD gold stars...Can you tweet?
I have a new car and the car camera is always going down and out of service!
I would use cameras, except it is junk stuff!
Using a camera is like pointing a gun at these fools!
They go running away when you show up with a camera because they don't want the world to see what assholes we deal with on a regular basis and it sways opinion against them everytime!
Yeah. Good luck with that.
True story: Yesterday, at the beginning of 3rd watch, the despatcher literally went thru 7 units, before finding one that actually had a car. The previous 6 were all waiting for cars to come in from 2nd watch. The car shortage in 011 is laughable.
stupid is as stupid does. Big city police don't need cameras. everyone has a cell phone camera/video. there are security cameras in every part of the city. state law has changed. the public can video the police any time they want. body cameras are obsolete already.
I'm not doing anything period!!! No contact cards or anything else! Hopefully I get picked with the new fire department test..... Man it's really going down now! Giving all the power to the crooks. ..well fellow officers just cut paper and get the heck outta the way!
Dissing Canaryville again???
don't blame the hillibillies it was minority hiring
I will wear a body camera if they get rid of residency rule!
Kind of funny how such a large dept. does such slip shod work with its equipment. Don't forget each vehicle is wired the way the worker see's fit. They don't follow a guideline.
I say start with 50 body cameras and install them on the aldermen. Maybe add a channel on cable tv for real slapstick entertainment?
Why are you so afraid of the cameras?
oy vey
The clouted do not have to worry.
The cameras will wind up at local pawn shops.
When was the last time the City did anything right?
Nothing they do ever works correctly, all rigged up and around and then never maintained.
I'm still trying to charge the flashlight the city gave us (so we don't carry a mag)
This city is a joke on a national level.
It's funny. I have a side business doing property inspections which incidentally I do quite well at. I make more PT on RDO's than on this job FT. Anyhow I lock up dude and impound dude's car. A few days later he calls me off the internet (unknowingly). So I show up to the house he is set to buy and see the car I just impounded in front of the house. Tow numbers still on the car. I say to myself "Oh, boy. Here we go. How can I tap dance around this?" Sure enough dude is my client. He recognizes me right away. So I tell him I have a twin brother on the job and he buys my story. So after I finish up with the guy (two hours later) he feels comfortable in telling about his situation with "my brother" during his arrest. He flat out lies about the whole thing to my face. Says I called him the "N" word, I lied about his arrest and so on. I was floored at all of his lies and his wife was onboard and said they were going to sue for false arrest, etc.. So no complaint ever came but a body cam would have prevent him from attempting it either way.
Can I wear my department issued helmet during my regular tour of duty? Seriously, I'm required to wear body amour by G.O. so if I want to wear my helmet CAN I?
I think that we should all get decoder rings, and wear beanies, with propellers on them.
Attention citizens of Chicago police body camera will show you stuff you don't want to see. Careful what you ask for! You will have bad behavior on tape and you won't be able to deny it happened
If they actually prosecute CR complainants who are proven to be lying by the body cam video evidence, I would be all for this. But you know that won't happen. This is just a stunt to placate a certain segment of the population.
None of the cameras in my district work. Of course, that isn't saying much since we have very few cars available on a daily basis. The warning lights on the ones we have are all on but nobody wants to down them since there aren't any pool cars. In addition, broken door hinges, auto windows that don't work, no A/C and on and on.
I'm glad to see it's not just the district I work in. Same thing....all the warning lights are on, cameras never work, and how about the door hinges?!! What's up with those? Maybe we do work in the same district.
The irony will be when the contract goes to Taser. The Taser is one of the greatest weapons ever issued to police. Yet when Hilliard was Supt. he would not allow us to use them. Now the hypocrite pitches Taser and Taser is one of the largest makers of the cameras. Watch, more money for Hilliard, who in case you forgot was nothing more than a Step n' Fetch it for Daley. Somebody always profits from the contracts.
You know what I like about the body cameras is the utter and complete silence in a squad car. I'm not worried about my actions with the public. I'm worried about the department using the cameras to limit my 1st amendment right to complain about work while riding around with my partner. I've seen too many cops getting suspended for use of profanity even when no one is around to hear it other than the stupid camera.
A body camera should be attached to McCarthy. Can you imagine that with his notorious drunken antics with female P.O.'s. Until then stick those cameras where the sun doesn't shine.
it'd be just about as useless and wasteful as PODs and in-car cameras are already.
Don't forget the ticket printers that they installed a few years back. Who (if any) used them?
Taser, Lamperd Less Lethal and digital ally are all camera companies for police departments in case you want to check out what you might be wearing and have your 2 cents. Lamperd seems to have the most options for safety.
Don't worry.. A private diner already said he would donate 4 million dollars to the city for body cameras. He obviously hates the police
I will wear one just to show the world how these animals are?
This is all being done to appease the people who are whining about the thug being shot in Ferguson, Mo. We are not the problem. The thugs are the problem. Since they are democratic voters, they will always get what they want in the end. Why do we sit back and let them bully us. To get democrats re-elected? Remember to vote out the democrats on Election Day. You are helping yourself when you vote. God save the United States.
Loevy and Loevy will loevy this !
I'm going to run the camera all day behind that female desk sgt on the north side that is perpetually on facebook and yahoo email.
I'd love to see body cameras on cops everywhere. And on their fellow, non-badged citizens.
But what I really want to see is guns on everybody's hip. (Well, not actually see, as such, given the tactical advantages of concealed carry, but you get the idea.)
Everything else is a $100 Band-aid on a broken leg.
Gmac, like his indecisive pals Rahm & Obama, does not have a strategy as of yet, but why would he... crime is down. Why spend millions on cameras when that money could go towards a soon Daley memorial park, plaza, library and statue?
How much did the County spend for their homeland security system is a perfect example of waste and corruption.
I'm going out to by that Tesla and fly to Spain for the week,then to Paris,oh wait I can't afford all that,guess I'll stay home a play scrabble!
Just point the camera down and film your junk all tour.
Now retired...
I often used the ploy when making a street stop, "Smile for the camera." There was never a camera in my squad car but people always got real reasonable when I said that.
Same thing when some goof started acting the fool in front of my house. "Hey pal, why don't you just smile because there's three camera looking at us right here. You came from that way well there are two more down there and another when you go that way." He just kept going.
If I were still working I suppose I could just get a dummy camera on tie clip. It would create as much of a deterrent as a real one.
But it is sad that we are getting closer and closer to a 1984 reality and doing it to protect us from the lawyers and those who would riot.
It seems to me there is some sort of !st amendment consent decree i heard about long ago that prevents us from video taping gatherings. Will be an interesting lawsuit when lovey defines a gangbanger repasse as a protected gathering and of course makes a pocketful when the city settles. I also recal you can't record audio unless it is for a state ivc violation so what good will video be with out the "fuck the police audio"
I'm not a PO that would need to worry if I was ordered to wear a body camera, that being said this why I’m opposed to these cameras;
1. To begin the ridiculous cost to Chicago tax payers, even if the program starts with federal funding, ultimately Chicago tax payers will have to maintain such a program, and pay indirect costs, such as civil litigation as result of the program. There are 10,000 officers, not 200 like Ferguson, it will be a much bigger program and the odds are POs will make mistakes. (Most likely mistakes many POs would not consider misconduct.)
2. PO’s are not robots they are people. PO’s who agree to wear body cameras open themselves up to HINDSIGHT scrutiny, video will be reviewed by the city, lawyers, and the media looking for the one mistake, no cares about right or wrong on the street, or you and or your family. Those people care about money and or political points.
3. PO’s have lost creditability with the public and in the courts from a restless media campaign over the decades, so now a camera program is our savior to a problem the media created? As result would our creditability be worth more or less from a camera program? And will we be setting precedence that without video our word is meaningless? So if your camera is not working the day another criminal is shot then it is assumed you must have committed some kind of misconduct like Ferguson, allegedly? The media loves to put the rope around your neck and watch you hang yourself.
Maybe we need to just skip ahead to where this is really going and we end up like London PD, stop caring firearms, and instead of crime fighting we are crime documenters, Event number please.
Its not that the city bought the low bid cameras, it that they did not listen to us ( as usual ).
There are several Chicago based companies that do very good work. But for some odd reason, they insist on being paid on time and not doing kick backs to the Democratic party or the reverands. So we are stuck with over priced garbage
Also, we have to wonder what happened to some of the money for
some of the stuff?
LOL - more cameras! This city and department are a never-ending bad joke. They will not spend money on fixing the little equipment we do have, let alone more on new cams; PDTs are broken and missing - myself and many other officers haven't used one all summer, cars sit broken and waiting for repair at the area; we had a broken door in lockup that shut down the whole operation for over 4 months, while the part to fix it sat on a shelf; fax machines, computers, phones - you name it, all in need of repair or replacement. The in-car cams have been broken forever. They talk so much bs, spend millions of tax dollars and accomplish absolutely nothing. This city is buried in so much bureaucratic horse shit, they can smell it from China, through their mile thick fog of pollution!
I vaguely remember reading something about Fresno PD (maybe?) wearing body cameras and how use of force by police *and* complaints against police dropped by 80%. (or something along those lines - I was probably drinking when I read it.) But I can see it - people tend to be more polite when they're on camera. I know CPD has other pressing matters but it would make for an interesting experiment.
OT:
https://news.wsu.edu/2014/09/02/deadly-force-lab-finds-racial-disparities-in-shootings/#.VAc30bEtYY3
"Participants in an innovative Washington State University study of deadly force were more likely to feel threatened in scenarios involving black people. But when it came time to shoot, participants were biased in favor of black suspects, taking longer to pull the trigger against them than against armed white or Hispanic suspects."
Interesting. I don't know how valid it is, but it's worth a discussion.
We need more cars and pdts before body cameras. All the midnight cars sit around waiting for an hour or two third watch to check off.
Hell yea bring them! It would put a stop to these ridiculous lawsuits!
Libertarian mag Reason.com thinks they can make policing better for all!
http://reason.com/archives/2014/09/02/four-issue-to-focus-on-in-police-brutali
Four Police Brutality Reforms to Focus On: A Libertarian Take
It's going to take a while.
Ed Krayewski | September 2, 2014
The killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, last month by Officer Darren Wilson led to weeks of protest, a militarized police response to early reports of rioting, and a “national discussion” about police militarization, racism, and police brutality. The police killing of Michael Brown was not unique.
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So...
There is no fucking way this department is going to spring for body cameras... Besides, somebody "impo'tant" is going to get caught on camera and the powers that be won't be able to make it go away.
Too much protection for the street cop and it will fuck up Loevy et al. getting fat on tax payer dollars and it will fuck up the reign of terror of these bad supervisors and bosses.
9/03/2014 03:38:00 AM
This cheap fucking city will make it a requirement that all new hires buy their own body cameras and maintain them forever as a standard uniform item.
The rest of us would have the body camera as an optional uniform item. Desirable but optional. People would buy them to cover their ass. The City could make it known that officers without body cameras might not get the benefit of the doubt in questionable incidents.
If the city did buy body cameras for everyone, they would buy junk from the low bidder and you pass it off to the next shift. They would soon be ruined.
Anonymous said...Go ahead and put a body camera on me, I will answer my calls, take my 2 personals and half hour lunch and go home. No more proactive police work out of me.
9/03/2014 02:15:00 AM
I dont need a camera to accomplish tha., Thats what I do already. Working in the ghetto after many years has taught me one very good lesdon and that is aggressive police works gets you CR's and law suits
Unless they start buying some cars, the only footage you will see it POs standing around waiting for keys.
Be safe brothers and sisters.
You can buy $50 radio controlled airplanes complete with cameras, yet Chicago can't figure out how to provide one for each working cop? Is anything in Chicago not broken anymore?
While financing these cameras is an issue, I think they are a great idea in theory. The criminals will then stop crying wolf - you can't argue with a camera.
Gary is so conscious about the broken window theory, he total forgets about the BROKEN CAR theory. The 1st post tells it all, engine lights on, no pool cars, etc. And we're the third largest city in the country.
Yeah we'll back you Gary, we'll back you Rahm, WATCH how we got your back!
I am going to strap a midget sketch artist in a Baby Bjorn to my chest, to cover my ass until they are approved.
Cooter wears one when on his pogo stick!
Yep, the connected Companies will get the contract, and Rahmmie the Commie & Co. will get the kickbacks. 6 months from purchase with Middle-Class Taxpayer Dollars, Millions will have been wasted, and few, if any of the Cameras will be working fully. Welcome to Crookago. Watch the Circus while your pockets are being picked.
Off Topic:
I am so sick of the entitlement wielding Obama loving class here in America. First they get an Obama Phone, a LINK card, Obamacare, and now there is a program to give them free cars! I hope the government puts a special decal on these Obama cars so I can identify these free loaders and search every square inch of their government supplied ride. No pot is getting tossed into the sewers if they give me any attitude! I'll write as many ANOV's I can possibly drum up on these lazy ass goofs! http://empirenews.net/congress-approves-bill-that-will-offer-free-automobiles-to-welfare-recipients/
Unless there is a major injection of federal money I just do not see this happening any time soon.
You all should have been electricians instead of the po-leece. Amps n watts n what not.
Fuck it put a body camera on me !! Out of Roll call I'll go get my coffee, and the rest of my tour beside responding to my assign jobs I'll be conducting "narcotic sales" from the tracks the whole tour.... Zzzzzzzzzz yeah Sgt ZERO activity no one on the tracks.....
Just wait til the body cameras are hacked!!!
"jack booted thug" ??? "jack booted thug" ???
the perfect Alinskite smear perfectly deployed in Alinski's town, Chicago....
Oh, never mind, this is Chicongo not Chicago...
Any of you folks old enough to remember Chicago?
LOL, well if you do fuggedaboutit, you b b'n in Chicongo now !!!
GPS locations the same but everthang else b b'n different
How's life in your "post-constitutional" (non) Republic ???
Do you prefer the alinskite Junta's "Law of Rule" over the old "Rule of Law" ????
OT: GUN GRABBERS SEEK SHUT DOWN OF LOCAL GUN SHOPS
YOU NEED TO DEMONSTRATE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE RKBA ON SATURDAY SEPTEMBER 6
A coalition of gun grabbers including Sarah Brady's Handgun Control Inc., the Bloomberg Moms, and militant priest Michael Pfleger recently announced the kick-off of a campaign to shut down 4 popular local gun shops. This action is part of an overall campaign to abolish civilian firearm ownership across the United States.
The gun-grabbers plan to launch this latest campaign against your rights on Saturday, September 6, 2014 at Chuck's Gun Shop, 14310 S Indiana Ave, Riverdale, IL. It is very important that we get a maximum turn out of gun owners to be on hand to support Chuck's and the right to keep and bear arms. So, please try to be at Chuck's to show you care about your rights. Saturday would also be a good time to help the shop out by making some sort of purchase. If you've never been to one of these events, you are in for a treat. You'll get to see first hand the tactics of the antigunners. You'll witness just how low they are willing to stoop to undermine your constitutional rights. You'll hear the lies, the fabricated statistics, an the hysterical claims about how private firearm ownership is dooming mankind. If Pfleger takes the stage you'll certainly be entertained by his special brand of frothy-lipped lunacy. Few will forget Pfleger's rant in front of Chucks several years ago when he called for the ISIS-style murders of gun shop owners and elected officials who support gun rights. Attendance at this event is a must for anyone who loves freedom. You cannot appreciate liberty until you look those who would deny you liberty right in the eye.
HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO PROTECT YOUR GUN RIGHTS:
1. Come to Chuck's Gun Shop, 14310 S Indiana Ave, Riverdale, IL, on Saturday, September 6, 2014. We would like to have our people there by 9:15 AM so that you will have room to park and to prepare for the morning's activities. Be sure to wear iGOLD shirts or hats if you have them. Otherwise, any NRA or gun-related clothing would be fine. Please bring a friend or two - a major turnout of gun owners is needed.
2. Be sure to pass this alert along to your friends and family...tell them to come out for this event too.
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Hope to see you Saturday!
Good, lets get them.
So when you have to escort a drunk politician or judge out of a bar it can go straight to YouTube.
You mean. Hello Mr ISIS. I'm officer..., from the Chicago Police Department, is there a legal reason why you were driving at a high rate of speed, disregarding traffic control devices and waving the enemy's flag?
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Next nonsense. Oh hello Mr. ISIS, the reason why I'm stopping you is because of XXXXXXX.
hey, my name is Garry, and I'm important....wanna fool around?
Will it record check off when my Sergeant ask me why my humper has no activity?
We have camera's in our squad cars?
"It's funny. I have a side business doing property inspections which incidentally I do quite well at. I make more PT on RDO's than on this job FT. Anyhow I lock up dude and impound dude's car. A few days later he calls me off the internet (unknowingly). So I show up to the house he is set to buy and see the car I just impounded in front of the house. Tow numbers still on the car. I say to myself "Oh, boy. Here we go. How can I tap dance around this?" Sure enough dude is my client. He recognizes me right away. So I tell him I have a twin brother on the job and he buys my story. So after I finish up with the guy (two hours later) he feels comfortable in telling about his situation with "my brother" during his arrest. He flat out lies about the whole thing to my face. Says I called him the "N" word, I lied about his arrest and so on. I was floored at all of his lies and his wife was onboard and said they were going to sue for false arrest, etc.. So no complaint ever came but a body cam would have prevent him from attempting it either way."
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There were negotiations today and body cams came up. Something about an extra half percent only when physically wearing a camera for those ordered to wear it (district personnel). The city attorneys seemed to like the idea.
It's funny. I have a side business doing property inspections which incidentally I do quite well at. I make more PT on RDO's than on this job FT. Anyhow I lock up dude and impound dude's car. A few days later he calls me off the internet (unknowingly). So I show up to the house he is set to buy and see the car I just impounded in front of the house. Tow numbers still on the car. I say to myself "Oh, boy. Here we go. How can I tap dance around this?" Sure enough dude is my client. He recognizes me right away. So I tell him I have a twin brother on the job and he buys my story. So after I finish up with the guy (two hours later) he feels comfortable in telling about his situation with "my brother" during his arrest. He flat out lies about the whole thing to my face. Says I called him the "N" word, I lied about his arrest and so on. I was floored at all of his lies and his wife was onboard and said they were going to sue for false arrest, etc.. So no complaint ever came but a body cam would have prevent him from attempting it either way.
If...IF this post is legit, allow me to be the first to respond telling you that you are the epitome of stupidity. Why, you ask?
Simple: you claim to make more money working a part-time gig than you do for the city, yet you're still out being proactive, knowingly placing yourself in harms way.
You're the perfect example of what people mean when they say "you can't teach common sense". Perhaps you should've given him a discounted rate as an olive branch for your "brother" calling him the 'N-word', LAUGHING OUT LOUD right about now.
I suggest you start wearing that body camera to your side job.
Dummy.
The real irony is, the ACLU is worried that the good citizens will have their privacy invaded.
All the whiners really want is for police to be recorded and not the public. The last thing the libs want is for their constituents to be taped in their natural behavior mode.
Hey you! Do you want to stick it in Rahm's spastic little ass? This might be hard to swallow at first thought; however, you'll screw Rahm by voting for the little potato head from Galewood instead of his money man from Winnetka. Yep, I'm a conservative Republican and my vote will be against Rahm Emmanuel's personal banker. Keep the status quo in Springfield and you assure a stalemate to stop the Chicago dem's in their tracks.
How about aldermen wearing them and the Mayo's detail and how about lawyer, states attorney's and judges too. Man, I love america. Big Brother is finally hear!
>>> Anonymous said...
Will it record check off when my Sergeant ask me why my humper has no activity?
9/03/2014 03:35:00 PM<<<
Now retired ...
Will it playback your entire tour in FAST FORWARD for your Sergeant and your W.C. to see why you have no activity?
How do they get activated,when you're doing nothing,like at the urinal or the toilet,officer why did you waste valuable Lake Michigan water flushing twice,that was totally unecessary,and shaking more than once at the urinal is....criminal sexual assault,so hand me your camera,with your clean hand!
When they give me a body camera I'll buy my own so I have a copy of what will disappear if the wrong voter is caught bad on tape.
(OT) great now Obama is hiding illegals kids wonder if they are part of the terrorist organizations?
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/09/03/Sharyl-Attkisson-Obama-Administration-Refusing-To-Tell-Congress-Where-illegal-Children-Went
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off Topic:
I am so sick of the entitlement wielding Obama loving class here in America. First they get an Obama Phone, a LINK card, Obamacare, and now there is a program to give them free cars! I hope the government puts a special decal on these Obama cars so I can identify these free loaders and search every square inch of their government supplied ride. No pot is getting tossed into the sewers if they give me any attitude! I'll write as many ANOV's I can possibly drum up on these lazy ass goofs! http://empirenews.net/congress-approves-bill-that-will-offer-free-automobiles-to-welfare-recipients/
9/03/2014 02:09:00 PM
Empire News is a wannabe Onion News - this story, maybe not so wildly farfetched, is still satire - relax!
Wow, some dumbshit thinks empire news is real!
I'll wear one ONLY if all the Alderman wear one and the Mayor wears one and Potato Head wears one. 19p go fuck yourself
(OT ) they are going after police in ferguson and in Chicago we have these rogue cell phone towers stealing our information come on holder do your job! They tell us we are safe yea ok priorities
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/09/03/rouge-cell-towers-can-intercept-your-data-at-least-one-found-in-chicago/
Gov Quinnlin says no money for Illinois National Guard to Drill So stay home No money for training
If our in car cameras aren't admissible except for traffic, I can't see how these can be, unless used against us.
Yes, dude is getting locked up and his car impounded, yet footing the bill for home inspections for high priced real estate transactions. I call bullshit.
(OT) 11 missing commercial jets plus the huge jumbo jet from Malvasia they can't find, but yet they can put federal agents everywhere to go after hard working police who are citizens, the boarders are wide open what are the priorities?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/09/03/what-glenn-beck-fears-may-be-done-with-the-11-missing-jets/
Could someone tell Mcdrunk they said body cameras NOT body shots!
I guess the body camera will catch me swiping in right?!?
Anonymous said...
Some officer's volunteered. Who the fuck are these ass kissers?
9/03/2014 03:35:00 AM
Desk officers perhaps?
The cameras are $50! Get your own! If you're legit they'll keep you out of trouble. If you're a jack booted thug then you shouldn't have a badge!
9/03/2014 01:02:00 AM
Whats a badge? I have a star.....just wondering
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You can buy $50 radio controlled airplanes complete with cameras, yet Chicago can't figure out how to provide one for each working cop? Is anything in Chicago not broken anymore?
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Shhhhhhhhh! Don't give the Rahmhole any ideas! Next thing you know, he'll be flying those RC planes following cars (maybe us?) around and using 'em to issue speeding tickets, you know, "for the children!" They've been using 'em around I-90 in Schaumburg for the past couple of months, too.
will the cameras fit in the glove box of the car, next to the mics we are supposed to be wearing?
Again, the police department becomes emasculated more everyday.
But this is what the liberals want. Learn to give the Miss America wave as you drive by people.
Try to give me one of those and its going right up your ass. Consider it a free colonoscopy.
2,500 officers short, no contract, no cars, no working pdts, no supplies, no working copy machines, no copy paper but they want to spend money on cameras!
Too bad no one from the news media reads this blog. There is a lot of information on how the Chicago Police are not given the tools to perform their jobs effectively. If they had functional cars the CPD officers would be on the streets more. And more criminals would be stopped or at least deterred.
But a story like that would anger the powers that be. The media would never do that. After all, Truth To Power!!! was so 2004.
Anonymous said...
I am going to strap a midget sketch artist in a Baby Bjorn to my chest, to cover my ass until they are approved.
9/03/2014 12:54:00 PM
This comment has to be one of the best of the year!
I'm voting for Quinn to spite Rahm.
I am a city registered Republican.
Hey you! Do you want to stick it in Rahm's spastic little ass? This might be hard to swallow at first thought; however, you'll screw Rahm by voting for the little potato head from Galewood instead ...................
9/03/2014 05:39:00 PM
You lost me at your first sentence. A little glimpse into your brain? You follow it up with more of the same. Come out of the closet and pay attention to what is going on. Status quo when it comes to this City's politics is suicide for Chicago and our pension.
Sign me up. I'll even pay for it (i get to keep it). Any recording made during official capacity should be made available for viewing by any and all people. What are some of us doing out there that they are afraid of the cameras? As long as you aren't bogus, you should know this can help officers from false allegations and bs lawsuits. Sign me up!
I love it... The guy who does house inspections is smart enough to have a life outside of this circus. Yet he is called a dummy for making a better life for himself by not doing vri or humping some bosses leg? You guys that sleep in your clown outfit (uniform) never cease to amaze me.
I have been retired from CPD since before cameras became an issue. I am not an electronic genius, but I don't understand the trouble mounting cameras in cars, or placing body cameras on officers. I have a Sony Handy Cam that operates on 6 volts at low amps and runs for several hours. How can that so adversely affect the wiring in a vehicle. The thing wasn't a major investment, around 200 bucks or so. If they are a good idea, and I also don't know the answer to that, why so much trouble installing them and placing them on cops. It sure doesn't seem to be difficult.
Body cameras? I'm still waiting to become a paperless department like they me in the academy.
My lil cousin can hack those things with his laptop at short range.
To the poster with the twin brother....
pretty funny shit, not believable in anyway whatsoever, but funny
you should have spun it as you were the shape shifting Terminator from the second movie
XO should have to wear body camera , let the world see what they do for 8 hours , body camera on female boss at headquarters having sex with blue shirt in conference room , video would have gone viral .
Anonymous said...
Can I wear my department issued helmet during my regular tour of duty? Seriously, I'm required to wear body amour by G.O. so if I want to wear my helmet CAN I?
9/03/2014 07:44:00 AM
Why don't you read the orders yourself?
"(OT) 11 missing commercial jets plus the huge jumbo jet from Malvasia they can't find, but yet they can put federal agents everywhere to go after hard working police who are citizens, the boarders are wide open what are the priorities?"
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/09/03/what-glenn-beck-fears-may-be-done-with-the-11-missing-jets/
9/03/2014 10:45:00 PM
All kinds of terror alerts out, especially on the southern border. ISIS may be staging in Juarez. Black-clad men (on video) storming the beaches in San Diego, twenty at a time, both day and night, "immigrant children" rioting and busting out of detention centers, and the FBI is busy trying to find who hacked the nude "celebrity" photos off the cloud.
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The P.O.'s who volunteered to wear the cameras are the same people at the Academy who have their "Masters Degree!" They are going to film each other telling war stories which none of them have. Or maybe they can film each other sitting at their cubicles, surfing the net, then going for a workout, and then to top it off, leaving early for the day! That sounds about right!
I don't see this happening. We have most of our fleet with in car cameras that don't work. We purchase equipment then once installed the vender goes out of business…..Hmmm something really stinks here.
Anonymous said...
Didn't the Cook County Sheriff's Department have some type of project that was a total boondoggle that had cameras in it?
Operation Shield? Someone made a ton of money on that - and all that crap never worked.
All I remember was that they laid out a LOT of money, and nothing worked.
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That was a Homeland Security project. You are absolutely correct-a big waste of money and it in fact did not work. Some people got jammed for it. This was a knee-jerk to 9-11 and complete failure.
County POLICE cars have had mounted cameras in the cars for years.
If you are required to wear a camera and have it on at all times, make sure that it has the urinal and your junk clearly in view, as well as any bowel movement flushing scenes.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Go ahead and put a body camera on me, I will answer my calls, take my 2 personals and half hour lunch and go home. No more proactive police work out of me.
9/03/2014 02:15:00 AM
You just described my career. Do you think you invented something new? The Federal lawsuit against police officers is not a new occurrence either.
I'll wear one so when the Dumb ass bosses in roll call tell us something I can record it. Just like in our 011 District 3rd watch roll calls! I would love to record that BS with tricky and Lt I am the best MASTERS
What a bunch of BS. First off they can't even fix the in car cameras and PDT'S. The officers that had the expertise to do this job are put out there in Safe Passage, Fuck these kids and their dog ass parents who can't get their asses out of bed to walk them to school. Take care of the troops and give them the tools to work with in a safe and proper manner. This department is so backwards it is pathetic, just keep treating the troops like SHIT and then wonder why attitudes and moral is in the gutter, Bow to the mutts!!!!!
Whats a badge? I have a star.....just wondering
9/04/2014 12:20:00 AM
Interesting! I proudly wore a Police Badge for thirty plus years. Yeah, we had a star party but have you ever referred to it as a Police star?
Anonymous said...
I'll wear one so when the Dumb ass bosses in roll call tell us something I can record it. Just like in our 011 District 3rd watch roll calls! I would love to record that BS with tricky and Lt I am the best MASTERS
9/04/2014 03:45:00 PM
Really. I always get a radio after roll call,not before.
Anonymous said...
Whats a badge? I have a star.....just wondering
9/04/2014 12:20:00 AM
Interesting! I proudly wore a Police Badge for thirty plus years. Yeah, we had a star party but have you ever referred to it as a Police star?
9/04/2014 05:37:00 PM
The "star" guy is a grizzled veteran no doubt. Probably would jump all over anyone who says "perp" or "collar."
Anonymous said...
If you are required to wear a camera and have it on at all times, make sure that it has the urinal and your junk clearly in view, as well as any bowel movement flushing scenes.
9/04/2014 03:04:00 PM
It is not junk. It is the almighty royal staff of nobility. Mr Happy in other words.
Interesting! I proudly wore a Police Badge for thirty plus years. Yeah, we had a star party but have you ever referred to it as a Police star?
9/04/2014 05:37:00 PM
We've always made fun of the ones that incorrectly used the term "badge". It's always been a "star". You didn't get out much did you?
1. Criminals wil protest or riot anyways even if the camera footage shows justified shooting...pointless
2. pro-active policing will stop, police will become only reactive, bud guy will figure this out...pointless
3. public does not understand that "sir / ma'am" talk might as well be, "dont take me seriously, I'm clueless"...pointless
4. Media/public obtains video BEFORE a trial, the p.o. is tried in a court of public opinion, career/life ruined...pointless
The bottom line is that the sheeple have been convinced by big brother that that that police are brutal racists and must be resisted...oh and it can be changed with a vote on Nov 2. If police are such an unstoppable fascist fear inducing force like they claim, why are there 20 shootings in 1 weekend and 100K gangbangers in this city?
Anonymous said...
Whats a badge? I have a star.....just wondering
9/04/2014 12:20:00 AM
Interesting! I proudly wore a Police Badge for thirty plus years. Yeah, we had a star party but have you ever referred to it as a Police star?
9/04/2014 05:37:00 PM
The "star" guy is a grizzled veteran no doubt. Probably would jump all over anyone who says "perp" or "collar."
9/04/2014 10:48:00 PM
Yep! you're ether a Chicago Cop or you're not. Me....?: I was a Chicago Cop!
9/03/2014 10:45:00 PM
All kinds of terror alerts out, especially on the southern border. ISIS may be staging in Juarez. Black-clad men (on video) storming the beaches in San Diego, twenty at a time, both day and night, "immigrant children" rioting and busting out of detention centers, and the FBI is busy trying to find who hacked the nude "celebrity" photos off the cloud.
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9/04/2014 10:40:00 AM
Juarez borders El Paso, Texas. San Diego borders Tijuana. Juarez is 734 miles from San Diego. As far as "storming the beaches of San Diego" there are a few military bases in that part of California.
There are 16 naval and military installations of the U.S. Navy, U.S. Marine Corps, and the U.S. Coast Guard in San Diego County. These include the Naval Base San Diego, Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton, Marine Corps Air Station Miramar, and Naval Air Station North Island.
Sounds as if ISIS should buy a membership to AAA and get some road maps.
We've always made fun of the ones that incorrectly used the term "badge". It's always been a "star". You didn't get out much did you?
9/05/2014 06:09:00 AM
Hey, hair gel boy, I've probably spent more time on the south side streets than you've been on this planent. Go back to your parents basement.
Amazing New Evidence Indicates Michael Brown’s Friend Joined Attack On Ferguson Cop
michael
Written by Donald Joy on September 5, 2014
Recent analysis shows that Michael Brown’s friend Dorian Johnson, besides being Brown’s accomplice in the convenience store robbery just minutes before, may have also helped Brown in the physical fight against officer Darren Wilson which took place at (and inside) Wilson’s patrol vehicle. This is completely contrary to Johnson’s statements portraying himself merely as a witness to the fight. It’s also extremely important news, which the corrupted news-reporting profession refuses to report.
The unpaid super-sleuths at The Conservative Treehouse are once again blowing to smithereens the usual left-wing race hoax media narrative: Just as they did last year, when they doggedly unearthed irrefutable key evidence and analysis to which George Zimmerman’s defense team continuously turned for help in exonerating their client in the Trayvon Martin fiasco, the blogging collective at TCT (also known as The Last Refuge), or “Treepers,” are now turning their laser-like forensic skills toward uncovering the truth about what happened last month on a street in Ferguson, Missouri.
http://clashdaily.com/2014/09/amazing-new-evidence-indicates-michael-browns-friend-joined-attack-ferguson-cop/
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