Wednesday, November 12, 2014

Trash Survey?

Ummm.......
  • Off Topic but more tax dollars spent on BS.

    Today I was sitting in my living room and observed an enterprise rental can pull up in front of my house, a m/2 and m/1 get out and put a garbage bag over my garbage can and empty the contents and then place the bag into their van. So I go out there and ask them what they are doing? Of course their is a streets and san suv behind them and some f/1 gets out and hands me a letter that the city is doing research on what we put into our black garbage cans. HHHMMM. So what company is this doing this research? VANECKO Trash Analysis group?

    Interesting that the city has money to do trash research but has no money to put towards their pension obligations..

    More money down the drain for a well connected company.
Anyone else heard or experienced this? It sounds like a tremendous waste of money.

Otherwise, it sure sounds like a fishing expedition for evidence.

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107 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am loading up on FIBER right now.

Wait til' they see what I have for them in MY garbage can.

11/12/2014 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not a cop, but I'd get your Union involved or at least have a lawyer on hot standby. Was it just their block or did it happen to any other officers?

11/12/2014 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if this is for real, it is apparent that you have been targeted for your thoughts.

they have been deemed unacceptable by the NSA and you must be 'cleaned.'

11/12/2014 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know that the FBI can search your trash without a warrant?

11/12/2014 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Buy a shredder. Shred everything, and make sure they have a big pile of shreds to sort. A little mayo, ketchup or gravy on the shreds also helps.

11/12/2014 12:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Make sure you sort and recycle the plastics and the cans. Or the Enviro-nazis will ship you off to the camps.

11/12/2014 12:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmmm...

This sounds like some old IAD bullshit.
The o/p might be the target of an investigation.

Don't take department documents home.
Get a fire pit. Get a confetti shredder.
Shred and BURN your sensitive documents.
Keep a bullshit cash card with a few hundred dollars on it.
Keep a bullshit cell phone.
A good shredder can grind up the SIM card.

Protect yourself from the city by all means.

11/12/2014 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm willing to be they didn't find anything interesting in the garbage at Lt. Walsh's house.

11/12/2014 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Buy a shredder then buy a house far away

11/12/2014 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe they can teach the Bears how to feed like Bears. 0-16. Thanks Grandma Virginia. Sell it while you have a chance.

11/12/2014 12:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It could be a bit of both, then again it might not be.

11/12/2014 01:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To answer the question of a fishing expedition for evidence. I followed the crew for a few blocks, they stopped at every 10th house and emptied the trash into a bag and then into their enterprise van, Had I have known that I would have threw out my beloved and most cherished picture of Rahm. Of course my dogs poop would have been all over it.

11/12/2014 01:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HI

Isn't that Daley's nephew, who owns that company and who stole fund from the pension plan?

11/12/2014 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can always trust your Democrat government. They always know what is good for us.

11/12/2014 01:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of surveys, when are we gonna see the results of that morale & wellness survey?

11/12/2014 01:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's exactly why I use a shredder ...... and every day I shred 20 or 30 pages from a ton of old tech manuals my dad had in his basment for 40 years. Just to give the G something to try scotch taping back together. All my actual documents and mail get shredded once a month and I put it in the dumpster at a grocery store lot.

11/12/2014 01:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I put my garbage cans in my garage and only bring them out just before the garbage truck arrives. A little extra work, but well worth it in my mind.

11/12/2014 02:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All this is part of AGENDA 21. They will look at what you throw out so later they can fine or tax you. The government is everywhere these days - including your trash. It's just another invasion of privacy which we really don't have anymore. They will say: "Don't be alarmed - you have nothing to hide - do you?" and "It's all for the Earth..." This country is done.

11/12/2014 02:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Garbage pull for ??? All bs the SS person told you.

Usually done 0300 to 044 unless visable conditions don't warrant it.

If the cart is on public property, alley, etc. It become fair game for a pull without any legal justifaction.

11/12/2014 02:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

shred ALL paper....

11/12/2014 02:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holy crap, I just saw something like that on Forensic Files on TRU TV. What you been up to Willis?

11/12/2014 02:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Survey. ..yeh I believe in Santa Claus too...it's an investigative process

11/12/2014 03:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And...... You actually believed that story?? Officer?? Wow... Don't look now but I see a confidential CR# in your future. Good luck

11/12/2014 03:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

According to the scanner, an off duty PO was shot in 003? Any word on this? (courtesy of WH Thompson from twitter)

11/12/2014 03:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope that they go through my garbage.they will be in for a big surprise when they open my dog poop bags, and cat litter. Bring it on,their expressions should be priceless.

11/12/2014 03:59:00 AM  
Blogger Crabbycannon1 said...

Bring the garbage junkies on. While they are rummaging through my bags, they will be sorting through dog poop and cat litter. Priceless!

11/12/2014 04:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another waste of tax payers money. The money should go into the depleted pension funds.

11/12/2014 04:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see black alderman pushed through a raise for Alfonza "im da man" Wysinger. 200,000 grand a year for a guy that doesn't set policy, and shows up at news conferences.

11/12/2014 04:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is off topic but worth mentioning, at comstat 011 had the most contact cards in the city... AND it's leading the city in homicides... by a lot.. worth pointing out. someones terrible strategy is getting people killed. When can we go back to doing real police work?

11/12/2014 04:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure it is a trash survey, and what will follow is an ordinance with hefty fines for non compliance with recycling. And I soul further guess it will be enforced evenly throughout all neighborhoods, just like the booting and meters.

11/12/2014 05:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Haaa... Ima fill mines with genral owdaz form now on!

11/12/2014 05:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone needs a Lawyer....

11/12/2014 05:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They were not S&S. They were the "G" looking for evidence.

11/12/2014 06:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You were visited by the G !!!

11/12/2014 06:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a former private investigator, you can collect a lot of data from peoples garbage. Sounds suspicious, it is suspicious. Call police., get a contact card, may help later.

11/12/2014 06:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry buddy. I think you're being investigated. That was a garbage search.

11/12/2014 06:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Questions.
Are you currently being investigated by IG or IAD?

Have you been served allegations or brought in for any interviews?

Do you absent yourself or your family from your declared city residence?

Do you place any construction debris in city
garbage cans?

Any answers yes will explain the fishing you witnessed.

11/12/2014 06:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The civil war is upon us. It's called recon.

America

11/12/2014 06:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Identity Theft!!!

11/12/2014 06:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's preparation for forcing people to do recycling. In parts of the UK people have (I kid you not) five bins for food waste, paper, plastic, and have to sort their trash accordingly, and there is a range of fines if they don't. They have people doing spot checks on the contents of the bins. All with the excuse of saving the planet but it's really all about the cash. Just like speed and red light cameras (also pervasive in the UK).

11/12/2014 06:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's a 'dumpster dive' by IAD... no survey!

11/12/2014 07:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.”

-- Theodore Roosevelt

11/12/2014 07:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmmm......trash pull on your place.Very interesting. Either OCD or IAD.

11/12/2014 07:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like the "G" or IRS to me.

11/12/2014 07:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks like you're under federal investigation. Just kidding, but watch your ass nonetheless.

11/12/2014 07:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Al wysinger got a 5% raise next year! What do we, the boots on the ground, the ones doing the work, taking the risks, getting shot at, spit on, cursed at all day long get? 2%!!! Unreal

11/12/2014 07:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They took all my losing scratch off tickets. Now how am I gonna write my losings off at tax season. Wtf!!!


MG

11/12/2014 07:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



Dude, get a lawyer.

And remember...."you have the right to remain silent...."

11/12/2014 07:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT

http://m.wisn.com/news/report-officer-involved-in-dontre-hamilton-shooting-fired/29148344

Milwaukee PDT chief fires officer for defending his life?? Mental takes his baton and starts hitting him in the neck with it. Officer shoots and kills the mental. Black protests arise, specter of Ferguson. Under the bus the Officer goes.

11/12/2014 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, the yard sale season is over. Can't drive around policing that some nice old ladies temporarily taped a sign to a light pole that they paid for in the first place.

Now it's the Garbage Detectives. Enterprise is gonna be getting some smelly vans back, huh?

Wait until the snow comes. Absentee landlords, real estate firms holding a "For Sale" building, and block-long businesses get a pass on clearing their sidewalks. You wanted to give some tickets, oh boy. Naw. Cold out there. Let people climb Mt. Everest to get to the bus stop.

11/12/2014 08:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We already paid for a 340-page thumper of a "Waste Characterization Plan" --

http://www.cityofchicago.org/dam/city/depts/doe/general/RecyclingAndWasteMgmt_PDFs/WasteAndDiversionStudy/WasteCharacterizationReport.pdf

2.2
Waste Characterization
Study Tasks

2.3
Physical Waste Characterization

2.3.1
Methodology

2.3.1.1
DSS-Collected and Privately-Collected
Waste Sampling Plan

2.3.1.2
Targeted Industry/Multi-Family
Residential Groups Sampling Plan

Etc., etc., etc.

Keeps them busy generating bar charts and maps and tables...

Remember when S&S had orange hand carts and a guy with a push broom and a shovel?




11/12/2014 08:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Garbage at the curb has been deemed by the courts as public property, move along from the conspiracy theories.

Many towns do garbage surveys to see the amount of recyclable materials that go into the regular carts instead of blue carts or blue bags

11/12/2014 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Garbage at the curb has been deemed by the courts as public property, move along from the conspiracy theories.

Many towns do garbage surveys to see the amount of recyclable materials that go into the regular carts instead of blue carts or blue bags

11/12/2014 08:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why did they only do your can? This sounds like someone is getting ready to crawl up your ass. Get a lawyer and start shredding everything. jesus Christ. Over your blog? Not normal!!

11/12/2014 08:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be afraid.

Be very afraid.

11/12/2014 08:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
You know that the FBI can search your trash without a warrant?

11/12/2014 12:18:00 AM


Anybody can search your garbage without a warrant if it is in the alley or a public area.

11/12/2014 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

City is already looking at a "Pay As You Throw" scheme...

http://chicagoinspectorgeneral.org/major-initiatives/budget-options/2011-budget-options-online-version/revenue-options/charges-for-services-institute-a-pay-as-you-throw-garbage-collection-fee/

11/12/2014 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Portland, Seattle multiple cans for different trash and "Trash Police/Inspectors" to randomly check citations and fines to be issued...

11/12/2014 08:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not IAD. Definitely FBI and they are very patient. Might be time to reinvent yourself as mr clean.

11/12/2014 09:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I searched for Vanecko Trash Analysis group on the Sec. of State's website, and there is no LLC or Corp. with that name.

Quite bizarre indeed.

11/12/2014 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If its evidence that they want, why can't they do it the old fashion way? Just plant it.

11/12/2014 09:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The G is looking at you call the union

11/12/2014 09:39:00 AM  
Blogger Cuthbert J. Twillie said...

+++++ 'streets and san suv behind them and some f/1 gets out and hands me a letter that the city is doing research on what we put into our black garbage cans.' +++++

Oh-oh. I *think* I know what may be up and it's more insidious than say...oh... just being investigated by the FEDS or sued in court. They could be doing a study on -- get ready, ya better sit down -- how much food people are throwing away, aka; 'Wasting'. And depending on how much 'good, usable' food you are 'wasting' if *they* (those unelected know-it-all progressive f--king bureaucrats) deem it to be too much you will be TAXED.

And I'm serious as a heart attack, as this is already happening here in the good old USA.

Sometime in the last month there was an article in a major news outlet about this new program taking effect somewhere out in the loony left coast. Like Berkeley California or up in Seattle Washington -- one of the libtard moonbat cities where the people are as goofy as the elected officials. These know-it-all assholes felt that too much food was being thrown away and to 'conserve resources' or some such bullshit nonsense like that, folks would be taxed for throwing away 'too much good food'. And the goofy 'citizens' love it! They're like: 'Tax Me PLEASE, I'm a bad person, I'm a food waster!' (goddamn morons is what they are)

Keep in mind that Chicago is the hometown of the biggest Food Nazi in the f--king world -- Michele 'Moochie' Obama! So if you get a new Tax Bill from Streets & San don't be shocked, you've been tagged as a 'Food Waster'.

In one respect it's kind of funny. Who ever thought you'd have to fear the friggen Garbageman?

11/12/2014 10:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats why i leave my cans inside my locked gate and put it out the morning of pick-up without my address on it. I have my brand new blue can in the garage. I just put my recyclables in my neighbor's black can. That is the American way.

11/12/2014 10:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
To answer the question of a fishing expedition for evidence. I followed the crew for a few blocks, they stopped at every 10th house and emptied the trash into a bag and then into their enterprise van, Had I have known that I would have threw out my beloved and most cherished picture of Rahm. Of course my dogs poop would have been all over it.

11/12/2014 01:13:00 AM

Okay, NOT the target of an investigation. Good.

Back to trash. Now, with the blue bins, I'm seeing how much trash that could be recycled is going into my black cans. But, with blue bin pickup once every two weeks (and the blue can is full every time), what're you going to do. If they sent the blue can pickup guy every week, I'd be fine with it.

11/12/2014 10:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I got a letter recently that the city is looking to see if you are recycling correctly and give rewards if you are. I wish I still had the letter. In addition. they can take your trash if they want to. Any cop should be aware of this 4th amendment "stipulation"

11/12/2014 10:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You've heard the phrase " know your enemy".
RAHM considers us the enemy so he wants to garner every piece of information he can about us.

11/12/2014 10:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
You know that the FBI can search your trash without a warrant?

11/12/2014 12:18:00 AM

Did you know that ANYONE can search your trash without a warrant? Keep up with the program, kid. You have no expectation of privacy when you throw you shit away. The courts have ruled on that.

If you're worried about a government gone to tyranny and going after you, shred and burn your papers before you discard them as ashes.

11/12/2014 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about the 6 million tax payer dollars to move a private house?

11/12/2014 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Used to do garbage searches of dope dealer all the time. Found empty kilo wrappers, new telephone numbers and other little tidbits.

11/12/2014 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saw that on "The Wire" once. Are you still running with Marlo?

11/12/2014 11:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's for the children!

11/12/2014 11:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's preparation for forcing people to do recycling. In parts of the UK people have (I kid you not) five bins for food waste, paper, plastic, and have to sort their trash accordingly, and there is a range of fines if they don't. They have people doing spot checks on the contents of the bins. All with the excuse of saving the planet but it's really all about the cash. Just like speed and red light cameras (also pervasive in the UK).
On the west & south sides they can't even hit a can with trash let alone recycle and sort. I was astonished to see blue cans on the west side years before the far north and northeast sides. These cans served no purpose and yet we paid for them. Such BS waste!

11/12/2014 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Never heard of the city doing that called a buddy who is a ward boss said he never did anything like that and never heard of it watch your butt if your involved in any kind of case involving the city sounds like trash looking for trash to me.

11/12/2014 01:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They were doing it in my neighborhood also. Who cares. No reason to get all worried.

11/12/2014 01:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's a fishing expedition alright. Except rahm is fishing to find ways to fine or charge the real tax payers for disposal of certin garbage items. It's all about the money from tge middle class.

11/12/2014 01:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

off topic:
Hey why do we all have to come back from our furloughs and Not able to extend it past the 19-20 days But a few Dogs get anything they want??
WTF I came back days ago we all had the same furlough. Only in 019 LOL
Good job Boss taking care of certain ones

11/12/2014 02:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Between this and the body-snatchers, I'm not ever gonna rent a van from Enterprise

11/12/2014 02:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only recently am I able to use my recycling garbage can. There is no room in the alley for it along with my 2 black cans the way my garage sits. The contractors refused to come onto private property to get the can - and I refused to have it blowing all over the alley; so it sat a year without being used. Seems they finally loosened up on coming on private property - so now I use it.

11/12/2014 02:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT:

Maybe one of us needs to file a suit like this teacher did. This plan is funded better than ours. Another in Kentucky is the worst We are a close #3 right after CFD's.

Pensions & Investments
Kentucky Teachers' Retirement sued for not addressing 'dire' funded status

By: Meaghan Kilroy
Published: November 11, 2014

A high school teacher in Louisville, Ky., filed a lawsuit against the Kentucky Teachers' Retirement System, charging the Frankfort-based system with failing to adequately address its “dire” funded status.

Randolph Wieck filed the class-action lawsuit in a Jefferson County Circuit Court on Monday on behalf of all participants in the $18.1 billion retirement system.

The lawsuit alleges the KTRS board of trustees failed in its fiduciary duty by not “aggressively and publicly demanding the full funding they need to stay solvent,” by not informing members of the system's “dire funding status,” and by not “aggressively exposing flawed and biased research in the Legislature's pension reform process.”

Additionally, the lawsuit alleges KTRS has inappropriately invested in “high-risk alternative investments” such as hedge funds, along with firms that have been identified by the American Federation of Teachers as managers that “work against teacher funding nationwide.” The lawsuit asks that KTRS “amend its investment guidelines to allow investments only appropriate for fiduciaries,” invest with managers that follow state ethics requirements and exclude managers on the American Federation of Teachers watchlist.

KTRS' funding ratio was 51.9% as of June 30, 2013, court documents show.

“(KTRS) is so poorly funded at the moment,” said Mr. Wieck, in a telephone interview. “It doesn't seem that the Legislature is going to do anything, especially in (the 2015) session.”

Over the last five years, KTRS has been “shorted” more than $1.8 billion in pension payments by the state Legislature, the lawsuit alleges.

The lawsuit demands KTRS communicate its “severe” underfunding to its participants, “demand full funding from the General Assembly in a public forum” and “initiate an aggressive lobbying campaign involving and informing all KTRS members.”

The lawsuit also demands that if the Legislature does not provide full funding within a year, that KTRS “support publicly and financially legal action on behalf of its members against the General Assembly.”

11/12/2014 03:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What would happen if I went through Obama's or Rham's garbage? I mean if it's in the alley on the public way and in city garbage cans.

11/12/2014 04:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: News to anyone else that our pension investment officer quit?

Chicago cops CIO joins University of California in new managing director role

Pensions & Investments
By: Christine Williamson
Published: November 12, 2014

Samuel Kunz will join the investment office of the University of California, Oakland, in the new position of managing director, asset allocation and investment strategy.

Mr. Kunz's appointment is the first to the new asset allocation and investment strategy group being created by Jagdeep Singh Bachher, chief investment officer and vice president of investments, Mr. Bachher said in a memo to the UC investment team that was obtained by Pensions & Investments. Mr. Bachher took over as CIO in April.

Mr. Kunz was most recently CIO of the $4 billion Chicago Policemen's Annuity & Benefit Fund. Mr. Bachher said in the memo that he expects Mr. Kunz to begin work in California at the end of November.

The process for replacing Mr. Kunz, who resigned Nov. 7, will be discussed by the investment committee of the Chicago Policemen's fund at a meeting on Nov. 21, said Regina M. Tuczak, executive director, in an interview.

Mr. Bachher could not be immediately reached for more information about Mr. Kunz's appointment and the new asset allocation and investment strategy group.

11/12/2014 05:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
You know that the FBI can search your trash without a warrant?

11/12/2014 12:18:00 AM


Anybody can search your garbage without a warrant if it is in the alley or a public area.

11/12/2014 08:47:00 AM

_____________________________

I asked the instructors who are at the academy about searching trash cans. Here is the answer; "every situation is different, you need a warrant to do a search. It follows that you need a warrant to search a garbage can. There are certain protections that are afforded to the citizens by the constitution."

There you have it. You need a warrant to search a trash can.

11/12/2014 05:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had a confidential IAD RD on me once and if it's of a criminal nature, the union will not help. It was all bull shit but it got in the way of a spot that was available to me. That, I didn't find out about until the "investigation" was over.
Interesting side note: normally if you have a CR against you, you are receive a letter from IAD that gives you the end resolution/verdict of the the case. I was never able to get acknowlegement in writing though it was thrown out as a the bunch of BS that it was.

11/12/2014 05:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I see black alderman pushed through a raise for Alfonza "im da man" Wysinger. 200,000 grand a year for a guy that doesn't set policy, and shows up at news conferences.

11/12/2014 04:52:00 AM

But you didn't see that Tracy was making more than him and his salary was adjusted to reflect he was the #2? Like him or not,usually the position yields the pay not person holding the position.

11/12/2014 05:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw them going down my alley in Edison Park a bit over a month back, and periodically stopping to look in cans.

11/12/2014 06:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can you post letter they handed out to you?? Sounds like a good article for tribune or sun times

11/12/2014 06:22:00 PM  
Blogger I Voted For Obama said...

That's got to be a really dirty job.

11/12/2014 06:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow! I saw an SS truck outside my condo lined alley which has privately contracted garbage pickup a couple days ago. I didn't think anything of it as many city workers live on my block. The garbage canisters are communal and on our private property and in no way on the public way. I didn't see them going into them and no "letters" were received or left to indicate they would be doing any "research". Interesting

11/12/2014 07:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why did they only do your can? This sounds like someone is getting ready to crawl up your ass. Get a lawyer and start shredding everything. jesus Christ. Over your blog? Not normal!!

11/12/2014 08:29:00 AM

Wow, reading comprehension definitely isn't your strong suit.

11/12/2014 07:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Oh My God! said...

They are looking for Amazon boxes to see if you are buying on the internet and not paying sales tax.

11/12/2014 08:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh My God! said...
They are looking for Amazon boxes to see if you are buying on the internet and not paying sales tax.

11/12/2014 08:26:00 PM


Amazon is building a distribution warehouse in Illinois. The tax thing will happen soon enough. Amazon will have to open it's books to the Illinois Department of Revenue.

I can go online and find every single purchase I made on Amazon from 1995 to present day. Soon Illinois will be able to do the same thing and start sending out tax bills.

11/12/2014 10:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A thousand years ago when I was in the employ of an agency, one of my coworkers insisted on fucking up operations on a regular basis. My morning runs just happened to pass by his flat and I had forgotten to take out my trash so I'd toss it in with his on a regular basis. Took about 3 weeks for his clearance to be pulled and his transfer to come down

11/12/2014 10:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

U.S. Supreme Court

California v. Greenwood, 486 U.S. 35 (1988)
No. 86-684

Argued January 11, 1988
Decided May 16, 1988
486 U.S. 35

CERTIORARI TO THE COURT OF APPEAL OF CALIFORNIA,

FOURTH APPELLATE DISTRICT

Syllabus

Acting on information indicating that respondent Greenwood might be engaged in narcotics trafficking, police twice obtained from his regular trash collector garbage bags left on the curb in front of his house. On the basis of items in the bags which were indicative of narcotics use, the police obtained warrants to search the house, discovered controlled substances during the searches, and arrested respondents on felony narcotics charges. Finding that probable cause to search the house would not have existed without the evidence obtained from the trash searches, the State Superior Court dismissed the charges under People v. Krivda, 5 Cal.3d 357, 486 P.2d 1262, which held that warrantless trash searches violate the Fourth Amendment and the California Constitution. Although noting a post-Krivda state constitutional amendment eliminating the exclusionary rule for evidence seized in violation of state, but not federal, law, the State Court of Appeal affirmed on the ground that Krivda was based on federal, as well as state, law.

Held:

1. The Fourth Amendment does not prohibit the warrantless search and seizure of garbage left for collection outside the curtilage of a home. Pp. 486 U. S. 39-44.

(a) Since respondents voluntarily left their trash for collection in an area particularly suited for public inspection, their claimed expectation of privacy in the inculpatory items they discarded was not objectively reasonable. It is common knowledge that plastic garbage bags left along a public street are readily accessible to animals, children, scavengers, snoops, and other members of the public. Moreover, respondents placed their refuse at the curb for the express purpose of conveying it to a third party, the trash collector, who might himself have sorted through it or permitted others, such as the police, to do so. The police cannot reasonably be expected to avert their eyes from evidence of criminal activity that could have been observed by any member of the public. Pp. 486 U. S. 43-44.

WHITE, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which REHNQUIST, C.J., and BLACKMUN, STEVENS, O'CONNOR, and SCALIA, JJ., joined. BRENNAN, J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which MARSHALL, J., joined, post, p. 486 U. S. 45. KENNEDY, J., took no part in the consideration or decision of the case.

Page 486 U. S. 37

The issue here is whether the Fourth Amendment prohibits the warrantless search and seizure of garbage left for collection outside the curtilage of a home. We conclude, in accordance with the vast majority of lower courts that have addressed the issue, that it does not.
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So there you have it, from the US Supreme Court. Your garbage is fair game if it is NOT on private property.

For complete decision go to:

California v. Greenwood 486 U.S. 35 (1988)

11/12/2014 10:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I asked the instructors who are at the academy about searching trash cans. Here is the answer; "every situation is different, you need a warrant to do a search. It follows that you need a warrant to search a garbage can. There are certain protections that are afforded to the citizens by the constitution."

There you have it. You need a warrant to search a trash can.

11/12/2014 05:05:00 PM

That's your problem. You asked know nothings. If you knew how to do research, you would have asked one of the staff attorneys, or gone to a legal website. But then again, that's why you are where you are right now.

11/12/2014 11:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

off topic:
Hey why do we all have to come back from our furloughs and Not able to extend it past the 19-20 days But a few Dogs get anything they want??
WTF I came back days ago we all had the same furlough. Only in 019 LOL
Good job Boss taking care of certain ones



You are allowed to extend on BOTH ends of the segment, not just one or the other, as so many districts and so many bosses say. There is nothing that says you only get 21 days either. If a boss pulls that crap, have them show you in writing where it says only 20-21 days. They can use the ol "manpower needs" excuse, but then they have to justify it for each day of the extension, i.e. Billiken or Pride parade or something like that, and they have to not allow t/d for anyone not on furlough either, for the same reason. Talk to Kevin Graham in 019. I had this happen to me (in 019) and Kevin got it straightened out real fast.

11/13/2014 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
You know that the FBI can search your trash without a warrant?

11/12/2014 12:18:00 AM


Anybody can search your garbage without a warrant if it is in the alley or a public area.

11/12/2014 08:47:00 AM

_____________________________

I asked the instructors who are at the academy about searching trash cans. Here is the answer; "every situation is different, you need a warrant to do a search. It follows that you need a warrant to search a garbage can. There are certain protections that are afforded to the citizens by the constitution."

There you have it. You need a warrant to search a trash can.

11/12/2014 05:05:00 PM

No, you don't. If it's on the public way, you have given up your control over it. If it is on private property, a search warrant is required.

Someone posted the Supreme Court ruling on this earlier today. Print it out. Go back to those academy instructors. Hand them a copy of it.

11/13/2014 02:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I asked the instructors who are at the academy about searching trash cans. Here is the answer; "every situation is different, you need a warrant to do a search. It follows that you need a warrant to search a garbage can. There are certain protections that are afforded to the citizens by the constitution."

There you have it. You need a warrant to search a trash can.

11/12/2014 05:05:00 PM

That's your problem. You asked know nothings. If you knew how to do research, you would have asked one of the staff attorneys, or gone to a legal website. But then again, that's why you are where you are right now.

11/12/2014 11:40:00 PM
__________________

You need to ask the staff attorneys at the academy. Those are the two people who are holding the place together, everybody else is there on a phone call and has no business teaching there.

11/13/2014 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I had a confidential IAD RD.....
WTF is a confidential RD??? Ain't too bright are ya?

11/13/2014 02:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I searched for Vanecko Trash Analysis group on the Sec. of State's website, and there is no LLC or Corp. with that name.

Well, between the two leading hypotheses, this weighs strongly. Extensive career introspection is warranted.

11/13/2014 04:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city came out over a week ago and had mailings saying they were going to randomly check the blue cans to make sure that people were using them correctly. No conspiracy here!

11/13/2014 06:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I asked the instructors who are at the academy about searching trash cans. Here is the answer; "every situation is different, you need a warrant to do a search. It follows that you need a warrant to search a garbage can. There are certain protections that are afforded to the citizens by the constitution."

There you have it. You need a warrant to search a trash can.

11/12/2014 05:05:00 PM

That's your problem. You asked know nothings. If you knew how to do research, you would have asked one of the staff attorneys, or gone to a legal website. But then again, that's why you are where you are right now.

11/12/2014 11:40:00 PM
__________________

You need to ask the staff attorneys at the academy. Those are the two people who are holding the place together, everybody else is there on a phone call and has no business teaching there.

11/13/2014 10:11:00 AM


Ask the staff attorneys at the academy? For what? So they can confirm the decision of the US Supreme Court? Oh I will really sleep well in that case. If they confirm the subject Supreme Court Decision of 1988 I hope someone writes the Supreme Court a letter informing them of this momentous event so they can rest easy.

Are you fucking nuts? Here, tell the staff attorneys at the academy this: Go fuck yourself.

The Supreme Court has slightly greater credibility that some hack attorneys at the Timothy J O'Conner Police Academy. I'll stick with their decision as published on Supreme.Justia.com

11/13/2014 09:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey why do we all have to come back from our furloughs and Not able to extend it past the 19-20 days But a few Dogs get anything they want??

That is because YOU are not part of the in crowd!

YOU must show up to work on time and ready for roll call. The chosen few can walk in when ever they feel like it. Call them out and they will give you the "I've got a family " excuse.

YOU must bring in activity or you won't get your VRI for the month. The chosen few manage to talk other coppers into putting them on their contact cards. To get the other activity, they will take a car out for a few hours and write their parkers or ANOVS. And then go home early because they are tired.

11/14/2014 07:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I asked the instructors who are at the academy about searching trash cans. Here is the answer; "every situation is different, you need a warrant to do a search. It follows that you need a warrant to search a garbage can. There are certain protections that are afforded to the citizens by the constitution."

There you have it. You need a warrant to search a trash can.

11/12/2014 05:05:00 PM

That's your problem. You asked know nothings. If you knew how to do research, you would have asked one of the staff attorneys, or gone to a legal website. But then again, that's why you are where you are right now.

11/12/2014 11:40:00 PM
__________________

You need to ask the staff attorneys at the academy. Those are the two people who are holding the place together, everybody else is there on a phone call and has no business teaching there.

11/13/2014 10:11:00 AM


Ask the staff attorneys at the academy? For what? So they can confirm the decision of the US Supreme Court? Oh I will really sleep well in that case. If they confirm the subject Supreme Court Decision of 1988 I hope someone writes the Supreme Court a letter informing them of this momentous event so they can rest easy.

Are you fucking nuts? Here, tell the staff attorneys at the academy this: Go fuck yourself.

The Supreme Court has slightly greater credibility that some hack attorneys at the Timothy J O'Conner Police Academy. I'll stick with their decision as published on Supreme.Justia.com

11/13/2014 09:45:00 PM

__________________

Do not be jealous of the attorneys at the academy because they are smart and they get the job done.

11/14/2014 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I had a confidential IAD RD.....
WTF is a confidential RD??? Ain't too bright are ya?

11/13/2014 02:49:00 PM

OK, I had a brain fart. CR#. There, are you satisfied? Yes, I wrote RD# rather than CR#. Did you feel better pointing that out rather understanding the obvious mistake that it was? Did you even understand the purpose of the post? Did you add anything meaningful? And, for what it's worth, I guarantee that my IQ beats out yours by a good 50-60 points. I'm glad that the days are long gone where I would have been couped up in a squad car with a moron like you. None-the-less...Stay safe.

11/14/2014 01:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I asked the instructors who are at the academy about searching trash cans. Here is the answer; "every situation is different, you need a warrant to do a search. It follows that you need a warrant to search a garbage can. There are certain protections that are afforded to the citizens by the constitution."

There you have it. You need a warrant to search a trash can.

11/12/2014 05:05:00 PM

This is exactly why the new recruits have no clue how to do police work. If instructors don't know the law how can we expect new recruits to learn the law. Shameful

11/16/2014 02:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
You know that the FBI can search your trash without a warrant?

11/12/2014 12:18:00 AM

any law enforcement agency can search your trash without a warrant. They don't even need probable cause to search your trash. Its trash and you have no expectation of privacy. Shred anything you don't want anyone to see. Actually shred and re=shred.

11/16/2014 02:23:00 PM  

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