Fioretti Hands Election to Rahm
- The two most prominent contenders running against Mayor Rahm Emanuel in February have come up with some very different ideas about raising revenue for Chicago. Ald. Bob Fioretti said a graduated income tax in Chicago, as proposed by Cook County Commissioner Jesus “Chuy” Garcia, could hurt everyday Chicago residents.
“I think that may be a very regressive form of taxing here in our city, and I think we have to be careful,” he said.
Fioretti thinks a 1 percent commuter tax would be very helpful for the city, without being too painful for commuters.
“That small amount is very insignificant, in terms of what we need to do; and that will help our budget along the way, and would help our pension problems too,” he said.
He noted more than half a million suburban residents work in Chicago, but spend most of their money outside the city, giving Chicago little tax revenue.
“There are 660,000 people that come from the suburbs, and work in the city. The combined income is over $30 billion a year. That $30 billion a year is spent where? In their hometowns,” he said.
"But SCC," you say, "he's only taxing commuting suburbanites." And how long until some major companies decide to reincorporate outside city limits? United has a big presence in Elk Grove Village. Boeing is here on paper - all their factories aren't in Illinois. It isn't like this is an unusual move - MagPul left Colorado and took hundreds of highly skilled machinist jobs and tens of millions in tax revenue with it. Beretta, Remington and other gun manufacturers are moving entire operations to the southern states.
These companies value their employees. They pay them well, relocate them when necessary, provide a decent environment to work in - you think they aren't going to listen when they're bitching about a 1% reduction in their pay by a city that offers them nothing in return? The schools suck. Rahm is soaking them for red lights, speed cameras, outrageous parking fees. A night out on the town costs upwards of $200 and $300 bucks after "entertainment district taxes," parking fees, and a chance to experience the "wilding" phenomena up-close-and-personal.
How about lowering the tax rate? How about being business friendly? How about reduce the size of government, specifically, the City Council? Or would that make sense?
These companies value their employees. They pay them well, relocate them when necessary, provide a decent environment to work in - you think they aren't going to listen when they're bitching about a 1% reduction in their pay by a city that offers them nothing in return? The schools suck. Rahm is soaking them for red lights, speed cameras, outrageous parking fees. A night out on the town costs upwards of $200 and $300 bucks after "entertainment district taxes," parking fees, and a chance to experience the "wilding" phenomena up-close-and-personal.
How about lowering the tax rate? How about being business friendly? How about reduce the size of government, specifically, the City Council? Or would that make sense?
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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The average Chicago voter is not considering whether a tax plan will drive corporations out of the city. They are low-information 'reactors'.
It'll either be: vote for the guy who wants to tax non-city residents, or vote for the guy who wants to impose a 'graduated tax' on city residents, or vote for the guy with the permanent 'screw you peasants' smirk on his face.
Democrats have no business sense what so ever get the dumb asses out of here and lets put this city back to work all they want is power and money their plain and simple bullshit.
Rahm for chicago. Another big lie politicos ALWAYS are for themselves.Chicago is for rahm IT'S MINE and if you don't like it leave...and they will in droves.taxes=slavery
I have been told by people that I know that Fioretti and his law firm made their original money by suing coppers. I have also heard that in the past Fioretti has been known to make negative comments about us. Don't know if this is true. Can anyone here confirm or deny this?
One of the last things you want to do is to put a payroll tax on people who work in the city and live elsewhere. All you are doing is encouraging more businesses, industry, and people to leave. (As if we don't mess with them enough already!) This was one of the things that started places like Detroit, Cleveland, and others on the road to ruin, even though we are on the same path.
I can't wait to retire and leave this thieving city in The rear view mirror! All these taxes and bloated city council is enough to say adios! Chicago, the most corrupt city in the USA!
"The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"
— Margaret Thatcher
Guess What? Chicago is running out of money. Otherwise the pension funds would be funded.
Yep. He tanked it. I wonder what he got in return?
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Ahhhh Taxation without Representation, how quaint.
How would one go about getting a measure on the ballot that would reduce the alderman. If u gotta gather signatures. Fuck it. Ill do it on furlough.
How about they stop stealing the money they all ready take??
I can only comment about Fioretti from my dealings with him at work. That's the only place or time I've met him. During those times he has been very supportive and pro police. He has stood up for us several times at Community Meetings in which the community was upset and wanted a confrontation. I have no knowlege of his law profession.
Companies and corporations move south because of lack of unions. Number 1 expense for corporations is labor. And if you support corporations than you support that you should not have received a raise, you should not receive any reimbursements, or entitlements based on years of service and not based on performance. And if you are arrogant enough to think that you can not be replaced or that there are not thousands of people who could do your job better and for less than you are in lala land.
Either you are with us or against as the great 21st century politician turned artist once said.
My recollection is that the Illinois State Constitution specifically forbids anyone except the state gov from issuing income taxes.
That pesky IL Constitution is probably the only thing keep the shit bags that run this city from taxing us to an even quicker death.
Northwest Indiana Times says Chicago is where all the top paying jobs are, and it's probably true for the Wisconsin people traveling the toll road in everyday too.
Anonymous 06:00 AM- When is the last time you had a Repub' Mayor here who had things "working" ?
Guess What? Chicago is running out of money. Otherwise the pension funds would be funded.
12/07/2014 03:42:00 AM
Hahahahaha! We have hundreds of millions of dollars available for pet projects like the DePaul basketball arena, the railroad-turned-bike-path Bloomingdale Trail and festivals for burning replica Victorian homes in the middle of the Chicago river.
Pensions aren't funded due to the extreme ARROGANCE and CRIMINAL REFUSAL to do so on the part of politicians.
I have also heard that in the past Fioretti has been known to make negative comments about us. Don't know if this is true. Can anyone here confirm or deny this?
Well I will tell you one thing. Fioretti was the only Mayoral candidate that showed up for the Cook County Police Officers Memorial Fundraiser, he even payed to get in.
TAX THE OUT-OF-TOWNERS! Absolutely.
If you earn and income or provide services in Chicago and reside outside of the city's boundaries: TAX 'EM!
Under ideal conditions I earn a great living in Chicago while commuting to my large and expansive suburban home with great schools and lower crime rate and lower sales tax. I'll pay the tax; after all I earn a 6 figure income.
Enforce immigration laws , cost of education , health , link ,wic , law enforcement is bankrupting chicago .
Just look around , charge illegals for education , send your child to a suburban high school if you live in Chicago and you will gat a huge bill .
Fioretti was on WLS Radio this past week. His initial statement was that the CPD is undermanned and we need to hire. Further in the interview he stated in no uncertain terms that police and fire pensions wouldn't be diminished. He said our jobs are different and so, our pensions should be untouched. I know he could be lying, but at least he is clear.
Now Rahm has told us to our faces he is going to screw us on our pensions and is already trying to do it. Chewy is a mush and we don't know where he stands. Any police officer or fire person that votes for anyone else should have his head examined. Rahm is a cancer and we need him out no matter what.
If the City of Chicago would smarten up, and stop penalizing people for doing things in Chicago, they would not be losing so much business. Additional taxes and fees only encourage people to go elsewhere for their entertainment, shopping, and business needs. Commuter tax??? Are you kidding me? I refuse to go downtown anymore, and only return to Chicago only when absolutely necessary. Fuck Rahm.
I've heard Rahm has $1.4 Billion taxes sitting in TIF reserves and is hoarding them for more DePaul arena plans. The Depaul arena also went up 75% in costs overnight. More TIFs on Depaul and the Mayors friends means less pension payments. And garage taxes are going up this year and next year under rahm, so he already raised a commuter tax on people. No need for more.
Rahm's next logical step: reduce the size of government by outsourcing the police department.
Word in the banking and mortgaging industry down on LaSalle is that Rahm will institute a city tax of as much as 3% after he's elected. Between that and the minimum wage raise which will shut smaller businesses and chase larger ones away, Chicago is screwed. I can't wait to get out of here either. F*** the Democrats.
Anyone but Rahm
I wish that 23rd ward Zalewski was mayor. A casino in Chicago for sure!
Anonymous said...
How would one go about getting a measure on the ballot that would reduce the alderman. If u gotta gather signatures. Fuck it. Ill do it on furlough.
12/07/2014 07:53:00 AM
Oh, please do! Willing to partake in anything to correct this POS.
--No Cop Here
Ha ha, this whole business of cops choking out people is a 9 inch deal for ur ass. With out a doubt, you will see the gov creep into local police departments and take over the joint. 2 guys die, now u hear about body cams nation wide paint by yours truly. This is bigger than you think. Eventually you will see the federalization of the local police. Call me crazy 7 days a week, but within 5 years, body cams will be the standard
Never ever forget RAHMULOUS has the dead tree media in his pocket!
Rahm does not want to pay into the pension!
forget all that other noise.
Legalize the herb already and pay the cities debts.
"Chicago Police Supt. Philip Cline and City Corporation Counsel Mara Georges said they would investigate the crime lab analysts and five detectives who handled the case of LaFonso Rollins, who was said to have confessed to raping an elderly woman. Rollins spent 11 years in prison before being exonerated in 2004 by DNA testing. Robert Fioretti, a lawyer for Rollins, said in a separate news conference Friday that at the time of Rollins' arrest, a blood sample was taken from Rollins to compare with evidence found at the scene of the rape. Fioretti said, "Either they did not run it or, if they did, they did not disclose the results.".....not sure if this is the defintion of 'suing coppers' as alluded to in one comment. But Mr Fioretti won Rollins 9 million dollars. ..."Fioretti said he demanded that the city and Police Department investigate the case immediately after Rollins was exonerated, but "nothing ever came of it."
Rollins, 30, is jobless and said he hoped to use part of the money to launch a clothing design business. He said he signed the confessions after an officer struck him. "I was scared to death," he said.
Referring to the fact that Rollins was wrongly convicted and the rapist still may be on the street, Cline said, "As a cop, that troubles me."http://truthinjustice.org/rollins2.htm
I say we tax all foreigners living abroad.
"He noted more than half a million suburban residents work in Chicago, but spend most of their money outside the city, giving Chicago little tax revenue."
I know of two residents that live in Chicago and cant remember when the last time any of their money was spent in the city, besides housing and utilities...
Gas, food, household goods, entertainment, schooling...all goes to the suburbs too...Chicago and Cook County get enough of our money...
You want me to spend it here? - Get competitive with your taxing!!
It's a fallacy (a.k.a. lie) that the commuters pay "no taxes" to the city of Chicago. I assume that the majority of them eat lunch and possibly dinner in town, and most counties have their own "entertainment" taxes for food and beverages. And I'm sure that Chicago - or at least a handful of people in Chicago - gets a fat share of the highway tolls collected in Cook and Will counties vis a vis those insufferable highway work projects that last for decades.
Rahmus Caligula will institute a City of Chicago Income Tax on every law-abiding taxpayer if & when he is reelected.
I live on the Chicago, Evanston, Linconlwood, Skokie border.
Believe me when I tell you, I don't spend a dime in the city. Grocery, Gas, Auto Repairs, Alcohol Clothing. A three block drive, and gas is .20 cents a gallon cheaper than the city.
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