So, About that Retro (UPDATE)
Oh, who are we kidding? Dean hasn't said shit about the retro checks. Not even to put up a simple calendar that would put a stop to every rumor and lie being told citywide. Here's what we've gleaned from public sources and archives and letters and comments:
- The Sun Times archives - (11/05/14) Chicago Police officers will get back paychecks averaging $6,000 within 75 days — and an 11-percent pay raise over five years — thanks to a contract ratified Wednesday that guarantees pre-election labor peace for Mayor Rahm Emanuel.
So the clock starts on 05 November? That would put the checks in hand by 19 January. That didn't happen. Someone said that Rahm sat on the legislation for a week, maybe two. That pushes the due date back the same number of days. And the FOP had this to say:
Yeah, a veritable font of information on such a simple matter. Here's a clue Dean - find out when the clock started and then post it. Trust coppers to find a calendar somewhere and count the days. It's really rather simple, but this crew seems determined not to make waves with the mayor under any circumstances.
UPDATE: Well, it looks like the FOP finally did something intelligent and updated the website with EXACTLY what we suggested here. Way to go boys! Happy to have shown you the way. We'd like you to express your appreciation in a financial gesture - one day's salary from each of you contributed to the Memorial Foundation in the name of "SCC and Readers."
UPDATE: Well, it looks like the FOP finally did something intelligent and updated the website with EXACTLY what we suggested here. Way to go boys! Happy to have shown you the way. We'd like you to express your appreciation in a financial gesture - one day's salary from each of you contributed to the Memorial Foundation in the name of "SCC and Readers."
Labels: contract stuff, FOP
posted by SCC at 12:09 AM
229 Comments:
Soon to be ex mayor we hope. Vote him out. Vote
It is plainly obvious that Dean Angelo is Rahm's puppet..
So how much interest are we gonna be paid on he late payment? Ha! I won't hold my breath on that....
Sat on rahms dear for about two weeks.. Fop or anybody can't force the mayor to sign anything in a certain amount of time. The final date without interest penalty for the release of checks is 02 feb. Anyone saying it was promised before Christmas is a victim of false rumors. City still has a week.
Nobody should write another ticket until the retro checks arrive.
Yea, trust the union.
Dean is a piece of doo doo...flop at its finest...oh and fuck you rahm...
Im so glad I hit the medical recently :)
FOP sucks, rahm sucks, City sucks....did you expect anything more for any of these entities? Dean and Co., I see a one-term reign for you. Doherty (Dougherty?) and crew needed to go, but you guys are not the answer. Rahm said he was gonna stick it in our ears. He will...every chance he gets. The City is going to hell in a hand basket....along with the county and the state. Dems have run it into the ground and the idiot voters of this fair land continue to vote them in. Let's see if Rauner can deliver on his term limit promise.
I walked behind the front desk this afternoon and to my surprise, I was told No Checks Yet. Doesn't Rahmbo understand Happy Wife = Happy Life?
I was wondering why the FOP hasn't posted the new contract on their website yet. I guess information given to the members isn't a priority for them.
I bet all you guys and gals that not only voted for the Dean Team, but also voted yes on this contract are feeling pretty good about yourselves right about now.
Do the rest of us a favor and forget to mail in your ballot the next time you receive any sort of ballot from the union.
What a debacle.
What F-ing difference does it make if we get the checks on 26 Jan or 02 Feb? Yea I would like it a week earlier but what difference is a week?
I word to the wise just live on what we make on the 1st and the 16th. VRI, Special employment, and forced overtime are not guaranteed to last forever.
The city has 75 days from the day HE SIGNED it. We hate him and therefore FOP did not endorse him. Do you expect the city to give you the checks a minute earlier then they have too?
A lot of the other unions are endorsing 9.5. We did not. Shit only about a third of all member's are registered to vote city wide.
PS: Jury duty lists are taken for voter lists AND Illinois Driver License lists too.
I remember being told in no uncertain terms that the check was due 75 days from when city council approved the contact. NOT 75 days from when Rahm signed it.
I regret voting for Dean....the clown show is growing old and it hasn't even been a year. Hope somebody gets answers soon.
Once again why did people vote for Disability Dean? Probably the same people who voted for the contract. Dean and crew won't push back against the Mayor.
This city is fu@ked yup. Just pay us r money and stop making interest off of it. It's not like the city is paying us interest
Check will be out 1st day of early voting.
Happy police don't vote.
too soon for "I TOLD YOU SO!!"?
I'm retired a couple years now and I'm owed 1/4 of the retro no big deal,but since I am now a citizen I can tell an interesting story,I was at a parade this summer and Rahm was shaking hands,doing that political thing,and as he approach me we shook hands and I said to him,I'm a retired police officer "don't mess with my pension" and he said in a smart aleck fashion," I'm not going to mess with her pension,but I'm messing with yours,"right then I knew he has no love for us,and didn't care about our vote......need I say more!
How can Dean not have anything on the website? Wtf? I've asked one of the board members who told me Ray Casyanus text him different pay dates everytime he is asked. I saw the texts with my own eyes. What kind of operation do we pay dues to?
I would like to know what the people who voted for Dean thinks now. This is about his members money and he is quiet. wanted a fast ratification of the contract but a slow retro pay out. just like when the fop administration before the citywide team signed off on paying more for medical before we had a contract.
The clock should of started the day it was voted on and approved by the city council. This was a contract agreement presented to the city council by the mayor and the FOP membership. If Rham let it seat on his desk and not sign off on it, he would not be acting in good faith. That would be his way of sticking it in our ear! If this is the case, we as a whole need to stick it in his ear by not doing proactive policing, like NYPD did! Anyone not cooperating will be brought up on charges of being a scab. Their membership to the FOP would be placed on a probationary status. That's the way I would handle things if I was FOP president. Don't even say you can't do that, sure you can, it's not advocating a work stoppage, it's for the safety of our members.
Here's the 100%, honest-to-God's truth about the retro:
My nephew goes to school with Zach Emanuel. Little Zach has a big mouth, especially since he was "victimized". Seems he's recently been bragging to the other kids that his Dad is "gonna fuck with the pigs' money for what they said about me and my family on that police blog". He started with this after the family returned from the Xmas vacation, but none of the kids payed him much attention because it was old news by then.
Seems the Tiny Dancer is extra pissed that his kids robbery story got dissected and called out for what it is - PURE BULLSHIT. He has minions who read this blog (FACT) and report back with any/all information that has the potential for damage to him or his family.
In short, this is a big FUCK YOU, you'll wait for your money for talking shit about my son.
I have a question. Neither the FOP nor the payroll department can give me a straight answer. At what point do Officers start getting back pay? I was hired after the contract expired, but been on a little over 2 yrs. Do I get retro from the 1st day in the Academy or after my 1 yr anniversary? I called payroll and a new tenitive date is Friday.
Last FOP meeting they said 26 January for Retro checks. The FOP doesn't ever seem to know what's going on; Retro, body cameras, 10 hour day, Governor releasing that animal Morgan from prison. They're clueless.
No Retro For You.....Next!!!!!
Usually 90 days after city council ratifies. Don't know when they ratifed FOPs contract. If the date in this post is accurate you still have another week or so. Nothing new, it's always been 90 days.
F Dean Angelo. I'll be you a million dollars that he eventually slips at the FOP hall and sues the FOP for disability. So he'll then be double disability Dean.
You Voted for DeaNO and *Jr
Now Vote for RhamBo
POs are Suckers!!! So Shut the Front Door and Do as you are told
Dean's still getting his retro
Paid for with our Dues
DUES -
A $12K investment over 20yrs that you could keep for yourself
Why DO we Need FLOP?????
Damn, I am so glad Dean Angelo got in instead of Bill Dougherty. See how much better off we are?
Luv it now
Just Wait till the 10 hour days
I agree: there should have been an absolute deadline date for the checks arrival. None of this fuzzy math based on 75 days after City Coucil's ratification or adding days because of the "week or two that it sat on Rahm's desk waiting for him to sign-off on it". A definitive date would've alleviated a lot of the rumor and misinformation. Then again, at last weeks FLOP meeting, Disability Dean emphatically proclaimed "Monday, 26 January" when asked when the checks would arrive. Hell, if the Prez can't get it right, what's that tell you about the FOP in general? How's "incompetent" sound?
That said, if you're that hard up for what is supposed to average $6,000, you've got bigger problems that need fixing. But I guess that shit'll happen when you spend money you don't yet have.
I can't tell you how many times over the past couple weeks my coworkers, coppers at court and elsewhere have asked when their money was coming. Asked when the 75 days started and when it was supposed to end. Asked what Dean and the Crew were gonna do about it if the checks were late. Asked how much they were entitled to as penalty for late payment. Etcetera, etcetera, ad nauseam. In turn I asked them if they had voted "YES" for the contract. Every last one of them had. The Almighty Retro Check bait had again snared many a shortsighted copper. Just like every other contract I can think of.
The lure of getting what was owed to them as quickly as possible blinded many to the bigger issues contained in the current CBA. Exactly as planned by Nine-Point-Five... and dare I say executed by co-conspirators posing as a fraternal organization?
The only check you blinded-by-retro goofs got Monday, 26 January was a Reality Check. With many more of them coming once Rahm is re-elected and he and Rauner begin tag teaming us.
No Retro for you!!
Retro chks this Friday along wth W2s
If they think that I will forgive being paid late, they are sadly mistaken. I am having to suffer for my union "leadership" that I did not vote for missing a deadline. It has been made clear to me that the letter of an understanding is to be set in stone. 75 days is 75 days. Anything after that is late and I DEMAND that I receive late payment fees. After all, I am being forced to miss out on substantial monies. Fair is fair. I will take whatever minor figure that is set by contract/law. I will not allow anything less than that to be applied. I insist my union file a grievance on my behalf alone if necessary. I will not be anonymous then. This city sucks more and more daily.
You ever get the feeling that our leaders do not care for us? Boehner is buddy-buddy with Obama, and both are inviting in our new hispanic citizens. Jeb Bush is giving awards to Hilary Clinton.
why shouldn't Dean get in bed with Rahm? all the cool people are doing it.
Instead of worrying about a lousy few bucks with the retro, how bout we worry about our pensions, the bs 10 hour day which will eliminate a whole watch and officers contributing to the pension fund. How bout we worry about each other. How bout......ahhh who am I kidding, all of us only worry about me, me, me, me, me, me.
We will never stick together. Sure lets do the 10 hour day so I can have 3 days off. Don't cry about your pension NOT being there when you retire. Hey you got 3 days off, then you went and worked 2 out of the 3 doing side jobs.
Rahm is such a conniving weasel anyhow. Is this really a surprise to anyone? He doesnt believe laws and rules apply to him and his cronies. He is like how deblasio is with nypd. Everyone better make sure theyre ready to vote for fioretti(or anyone else besides rahm) and dont give rahmen noodle for brains another shot to lie to this city and cover all types of truth up.
Rahms busy using the retro money on campaign ads
I did the count and came up with the 19th also. A date please.
Is everyone who voted yes happy NOW!
"It's really rather simple, but this crew seems determined not to make waves with the mayor under any circumstances."
Of course not. Disability Deano and his flunkies are bought and paid for. Gotta kiss the ring so Dean "Lazy Eye" Junior will be taken care of with a bump to sergeant and probably higher. I just wonder if all the hair gels will learn anything from this. Ah, who am I kidding?! Clueless nimrods will forget all about Rahm holding their cash ransom when they blow it on shit like trips to Vegas, the downstroke on a car they don't need and can't afford or other dumb shit. No worries for them cuz they got new cars in the contract. FUCK YOU RAHM.
Heard Barb West started roll call on her own with seven PO's in the room, reading off names of PO's five minutes after nine in 011 tonight.
Same shit as always with that one huh? Can't do nothing useful like command a district so come down on the watch for uniform violations an being late to roll call.
I predict Washington will come back before the summer is over, she didn't last in three a whole summer either.
Mmm. Buh bye.
What IS Rahm's fixation with "making firemen bleed" and "sticking it in the cops ear?"
Does he view them as less than?
Is his animus kindled because they're not him?
Does he grind an axe because he's not them?
Does HE himself even know why?
Who told him it was a good idea to to sic the Wall Street
whales on Police pensions?
Who thought it would be cute to have a de facto Police lay-off via attrition and cutting positions from the budget?
Someone.
Somewhere.
...Is contemptiously laughing down their dick about the sad and sorry joke they played on this city.
I heard Rahm needed our money to pay his kid's dope dealer.
And the funny thing about all this is that jaggoffs knows you people will reelect him.
HAHAHAHAHA.
Rahm lost my vote!!!
Well Dean I hope you and the boys enjoy your one term because that's all you will be getting!
How about our spouses and significant others going down to City Hall and protesting and picketing since we would be suspended or targeted if we did. "Where's our retro" "Pay up Rahm" "No retro no revenue" etc etc etc...
Dean, what can I do for you Rahm?, Angelo is a pathetic FOP president.
Dean got what he wanted when the naive membership voted yes on this shitty contract.
We got doubly hosed on this contract ; both by Rahm and our own union.
Everyone should contact his opponents he needs us on 2/24/16
Doctor Dean is too busy cramming that crappy 10 hour schedule down our throats to worry about retro
Just my 2 cents but I was told the clock starts ticking the day it was ratified, NOT the day rahmbo decides to sign it.
Otherwise, this vindictive prick could sit on it for weeks or months.
The silence from Dean & co is deafening.
Union?
Chicago - a bunch of individuals out for themselves working for the 'moment'.
New York - a collective force working for the betterment of the whole.
Did ya notice that the new contract isn't even posted yet? How hard is that to do? Unless your trying to hide something.
Dean Angelo being ever so small in stature could live comfortably under the thumb of Rahm. While the rest of us nibble off the remains of Rahm's middle stub just to survive.
I have not generated a parking violation citation since our contract expired. Normally would write 2-3 per day. That's about $100,000.00 in revenue. Mr. Arby's deli slicer can go pound sand !
Don't read so much into it, SCC. Those clowns at FLOP don't even go to work.
God I'm so mad. I need my $$$$$!!!!!!! Is there anyway we can sue SCC?
MG
WTF? I need the retro to pay for my leaking roof and the boiler needs to be replaced. Also I am pissed that VRI is going to end soon. I need the extra money.
Last year Rahm was patting himself on the back for getting CFD's retro to them early.
We aren't even getting our retro on time.
Thanks Dean.
you'll get nothing......
unless you endorse me :)
Here is a better idea. If FOP does not get us the answer by Friday when it was signed which would be the count down date. Then I suggest as many officers as possible flood the FOP and mayors office phone with calls. A few hundred or thousand calls should work.
Yup, you just made the FOP look like a bunch of assholes. For real, FOP. How come you guys aren't more in front of things and vocal like you should be? 10-hour days, body cameras, retro just to name the recent few
USA Communist party says stick with the Dems, down with the GOP
http://www.infowars.com/top-communist-admits-communist-party-utilizes-the-democratic-party-a-lesson-for-constitutionalists/
How can we even get the 2 percent penalty if we don't even know when that starts. (or is that a rumor also?)
Maybe everyone can stop worrying about the chump change that is the retro check for a few minutes and keep their eyes on the prize. Crains does a nice job looking at how the Illinois Supreme Court may rule on the pension law that was previously struck down in court. Definitely worth a read if you care about things like your pension.
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20150124/ISSUE02/301249999/how-will-illinois-high-court-rule-on-pension-reform
Start policing like New York and turn your backs to him.
CNN calls for North American Union
http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/36033/Shock-CNN-Editorial-Calls-for-a-North-American-Union/
I just got a letter from the Pension Board stating that it will take a year to calculate Retiree's raise from the new contract . I hope they started when it was ratified.
I contacted the fop yesterday morning after not seeing my money deposited. I was told that the comptrollers office contacted the fop in regards to the retro and it would be paid out sometime this week. When I asked the lady, "is there a date?" she responded "no". She also stated that the retro must be paid out by 02FEB15 otherwise the city would incur interest on the amount owed. Go figure...the same bullshit for the past 17 yrs. of the city finding a way to put you in limbo.
NO RETRO=NO WORK
Dean thanks for the contract, the cars, the camera'a and the retro, way to be a union boss.
Yeah gotta get that check! That's all every idiot who voted yes wanted! If that little check makes a difference in your life, you might want to reassess your life.
Maybe I'm missing the point. Why is it so difficult for the FOP to find out the official start date? Maybe they don't want to know, or don't have any intentions of filing on it.
If any coppers with more than 5 years on is surprised that your retro check isn't in hand, you're a moron. Typical city/Cpd bullshit
Honestly, what is the point of having a union if it can't protect us?
Seems simple,FOP from get go should of had retro calendar countdown,it would of avoided a lot of bs and rumor,but as of today 27jan15,the site says nothing.Is Dean not rocking boat because his kid is in line to be merit Sgt?
Lest anyone ever wonder how Rahm feels about CPD:
CFD got their retro early and we aren't getting ours on time nor can we get a definitive answer from anyone in charge of when the checks will be out.
That's right boys and girls that uncomfortable feeling you're getting is from Rahm sticking it up your ass.
Called the FOP this morning. Woman who answered the phone said that our retro checks (active members) will be sent out sometime this week no later than Friday. Also said they will be hard checks for sure and that each district will have someone designated to go pick up the checks and bring them back to their units. To be honest though, she didn't sound all too convincing; sounded more like she just wanted to give a satisfactory response instead of being honest and telling me that she had no friggin clue. Guess just wait and see.
FOP finally sent something out only after SCC addressed the issue. It seens the 'date' was 02Feb all along. The treasurer, Capparattitude, told everyone it would be paid on 26Jan. ...and we trust this guy with our money?
Good job SCC, looks like the FOP updated its website thanks to you
Per site 02feb is the 75 day mark
Why do I think the City is going to f@ck up this so bad?
That's what happens when you vote for fop candidates who are retired or on disability.they are only concerned about their retirement and disability benefits not the benefits for active members!
Dad says NO and that's that!!
Whaddaya think this is...a representative government or something?
We're all being parented.
Rahm and Obama will decide what is best for the people
Perhaps Dean can take the Mayor out to dinner at Gale Street Inn on his FOP credit card and try and work things out
from FOP email just received:
Fraternal Order of Police Chicago Lodge #7
January 27, 2015
Retro Update
In an attempt to dispel the rumors, the Contract was approved by the City Council on 5 NOV 14 and signed off by both parties (the Lodge and the Mayor) on 18 NOV 14, thereby completing the ratification process. The 75 day clock began to run on 19 NOV 14, making 2 FEB 15 the final day to pay the retro-activity without penalty. This process is consistent with past practice. Although many believed that the checks were to arrive on 26 JAN 15, the City has until 2 FEB 15 to comply with its obligations.
Chicago Lodge 7
Fraternal Order of Police Chicago Lodge #7
0 confidence vote on FOP!!!!
Our Union continues to let us down. They are nothing more than lowlife secretive politicians. Almost as dirty as Alderscum
I once observed Cooter display the same hand gesture to McMakeMineADouble.
FLOP put up something this morning. Here it is:
In an attempt to dispel the rumors, the Contract was approved by the City Council on 5 NOV 14 and signed off by both parties (the Lodge and the Mayor) on 18 NOV 14, thereby completing the ratification process. The 75 day clock began to run on 19 NOV 14, making 2 FEB 15 the final day to pay the retro-activity without …
No, Seriously I need money. Can I take it from my differed comp without penalty? Need cash fast. Might sell my other 9m
Disability Dean lied. I sat in a meeting where Dean said that we would receive a hard check for retro on 26Jan15. You are a liar. Shame on you.
Yeah, see you in March after the election boys and girls.
Daddy knows what's best for everyone!!!
D.A. jr. ( future MERIT sgt).
Why didn't the FOP just put this out there from the beginning, on 19 Nov 2014.
There would be no rumors, no name calling, no mud slinging.
This current FOP administration seems to be missing the mark, on more than one occasion.
They had better get their act together and start becoming more open and transparent or they Will become just like past FOP administrations.
I'm just saying.
NOW the fop says something. Either they figured out that everyone is on to their being in bed with the city ir they realized that they are failing tge membership. When you leave the mayor's office pulling your dress down and wiping your mouth it is going to be difficult to tell the membership "i know what you're thinking but it's not what it looks like ". We already know someone just got screwed!
Anonymous said...
How can Dean not have anything on the website? Wtf? I've asked one of the board members who told me Ray Casyanus text him different pay dates everytime he is asked. I saw the texts with my own eyes. What kind of operation do we pay dues to?
1/27/2015 01:08:00 AM
It is on the FOP website. FOP sent out an email yesterday stating 2 Feb for payment. I called earlier yesterday and they explained why the 2 Feb date. I also posted this on the Second City Blog yesterday about noon. Info was out there.
Rahm makes flatulence on the working man...he says, "The hell with you blue collar peasants...what's yours is MINE now!"
If they are suppose to be paid on that date that's three check amounts lumped together. The more we make the higher the tax taken out. We pay for our own interest. That's how you make the city work...
I said this earlier
1. The utter silence of the FOP on just about everything. Most notably: the forced 10.5hour shift and the confirmation of a retro check date and especially the mayoral endorsement. This is starting to add up and its not pretty. They want to endorse Rahm, but doing so will confirm that they are bed buddies. They won't endorse anyone else because it will piss Rahm off.
2. The contract laid the tracks for the 10.5 hour day. First the furlo by watch. Then the time due. Then the vehicles. I haven't heard ANYONE say furlo by district was bad. So why is it contract issue?
3. Sorry people but this 10.5 is not about us. I think the goal is probably to wipe another 1000 to 1500 vacancies from the books for a force that is now "full strength". And by virtually eliminating anc combining watches that is very possible.
4. Im SURE the FOP could confirm or deny all of this but they are being silent as to not rock the boat.. BTW what ever happened to them coming to the district roll calls? I guess that would be easier once an entire watch is eliminated.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Damn, I am so glad Dean Angelo got in instead of Bill Dougherty. See how much better off we are?
1/27/2015 02:20:00 AM
$$$$$
Yep. And Billy would have signed off on all of being in Obama care too.
Anonymous said...
Well Dean I hope you and the boys enjoy your one term because that's all you will be getting!
1/27/2015 06:26:00 AM
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Rich Ag-u-liar is that you? Are you still alive? Thanks for the box of shit you hide in the basement. For the last two years you did shit except backstab the kid. Thanks for stabbing us in the back too while you were at it too.
Usually 90 days after city council ratifies. Don't know when they ratifed FOPs contract. If the date in this post is accurate you still have another week or so. Nothing new, it's always been 90 days.
1/27/2015 01:46:00 AM
Ok clueless wonder.
It's clearly stated that it's 75 days.
I walked behind the front desk this afternoon and to my surprise, I was told No Checks Yet. Doesn't Rahmbo understand Happy Wife = Happy Life?
1/27/2015 12:25:00 AM
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We're not getting a retro check. I said we're not getting any extra checks RIGHT??? We get no extra checks either!!!!
All this will do is make it a lot harder for Dean to get re-elected. Lies and silence kills trust. Something we are all use to unfortunately.
Honestly, what is the point of having a union if it can't protect us?
You have No choice its the law you have to belong Democrates made Union membership a State Law
You do have a Choice When you Vote!
FLOP wants you to Vote for Rham
I have a question. Neither the FOP nor the payroll department can give me a straight answer. At what point do Officers start getting back pay? I was hired after the contract expired, but been on a little over 2 yrs. Do I get retro from the 1st day in the Academy or after my 1 yr anniversary? I called payroll and a new tenitive date is Friday.
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It should be after your year anniversary. The 18 months is only there so they can fire you easier in the event you step on your other head. All of your benefits provided by the contract are given at your year mark.
If you get nothing call FLOP and they'll fuck that up too
Anonymous said...
I have a question. Neither the FOP nor the payroll department can give me a straight answer. At what point do Officers start getting back pay? I was hired after the contract expired, but been on a little over 2 yrs. Do I get retro from the 1st day in the Academy or after my 1 yr anniversary? I called payroll and a new tenitive date is Friday.
1/27/2015 01:22:00 AM
2 years on and your so worried about your retro? How bout you worry about earning your mustache first, then come back here in about 8 years and post about your retro.
Im glad to see the lodge is on top of this, it only took 68 days for them to give there respective lodge 7 an answer even tho they were aware of approximate days and other various information back in Nov. Thank you FLOP....and thank you for the update on your website!!!!
OT-does anyone know when the supreme court will rule on the pensions,im hearing if rahm gets his way anyone not vested and new hires after ruling comes down will be in 401k's. just a rumor but this is chicago.
Can we say contradiction? Our union is like the theatrical version of Dumb and Dumber.
Page 6 of the 11-2014 F.O.P. Newsletter written by Recording Secretary,
Retro Checks
The retro checks will available no more than 75 days after the contract is approved by the City Council. The anticipated City Council approval date is November 5th, 2014 and 75 days will be January 19th, 2015. The checks could come earlier.
Then…
Retro Update
January 27, 2015
In an attempt to dispel the rumors, the Contract was approved by the City Council on 5 NOV 14 and signed off by both parties (the Lodge and the Mayor) on 18 NOV 14, thereby completing the ratification process. The 75 day clock began to run on 19 NOV 14, making 2 FEB 15 the final day to pay the retro-activity without penalty. This process is consistent with past practice. Although many believed that the checks were to arrive on 26 JAN 15, the City has until 2 FEB 15 to comply with its obligations.
Just 2 suggestions:
Vote for anyone but Rahm this election
Vote for anyone but Dean next election
We DIDN'T vote for Rahm...
We voted NO to Dean Angelo and his minions.
We voted NO to this shit-show of a contract because we applied our common sense, street survival instinct and ability to discern when someone is selling a horse shit labor agreement as a triple layer German Chocolate cake.
Policemen used to be too dangerous to fuck with.
Now?
Everybody is lined up to take their shots because they see that Policemen have allowed themselves to be divided and walked backwards to facilitate the crazy shit that is being passed off as normal.
It's disheartening to see so many posts crying about a retro check.
It's fucking aggravating to see the mocking smart-assed agit-prop planted in reply by Rahm's minions...
How many of you guys who voted yes are trying to back-pedal from selling yourselves and your families out to unprincipled m/fers like Dean Angelo and Rahm al-Ghoul for the lure of some quick coin?
Yes... We're casting aspersions...
This entire thing is all about principles.
The city absolutely figured that Policemen
would work against their own interests and
jump all over nonsense like VRI and other
such.
Keep doing it, Coppers...
You do know you're subsidizing a Police lay-off
by working it. It allows the city air and opportunity
to sell the taxpayers a false narration about crime and the lack of safety on the public way while cynically reducing Police headcount.
Heh...
Rahm plays a dangerous game and lives DO hang in the balance (rampant street criminality and the specter of terrorist threats in the face of reduced Police headcount and the intentional dearth of training in order to wring "savings" from the Police side of the ledger).
This...
May be as good a time as any to get out of the way.
It's been a long and strange ride and we've had the pleasure of meeting good people along the way.
We also had the pleasure of kicking a pocket in some dirty asses too...
Of course, the ignorant, incompetent and the vile in the supervisory ranks along with all the ones who evaded being screened out during the pre-employment process who DID cause our stars to stink with dishonor.
God Bless the fallen... We knew too many of them...
God Bless those who sacrificed their bodies and still struggle with being able to live whole lives.
And of course, those who bear a Policeman's grief and aggravation from the ugly they've seen.
Rant: On/(OFF)
11th Dist King said...
Instead of worrying about a lousy few bucks with the retro, how bout we worry about our pensions, the bs 10 hour day which will eliminate a whole watch and officers contributing to the pension fund. How bout we worry about each other. How bout......ahhh who am I kidding, all of us only worry about me, me, me, me, me, me.
We will never stick together. Sure lets do the 10 hour day so I can have 3 days off. Don't cry about your pension NOT being there when you retire. Hey you got 3 days off, then you went and worked 2 out of the 3 doing side jobs.
1/27/2015 02:50:00 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
The pension issue will be decided very soon when it comes time for the city to make that $600 million payment. The shorter the fund is, the easier it is for the city to claim that it is an unreasonable burden. Other than our contributions, the pension fund is NOT our responsibility, it is the cities. We put in our part and have no say from there how it is handled. As a result, it is in the current state it is because of the mismanagement by the city. Theoretically, the city is obligated to pay us our pensions even when it gets to the point where no police officers are paying into it (phasing it out in the future). I'm not saying that you shouldn't worry about it, but worry about the right things. This upcoming payment is the first hurdle. Less officers paying into it in the future is the least of our problems with it. Count on this, there will be a time in the near future where a pension of any kind is no longer offered to new city employees. When that happens, they still are required to fulfill their obligation to those eligible to collect on a pension. I would expect them to try to weasle out of it somehow, maybe trying a buyout or something. But that is a fight for another day.
And the 10 hour day is not the end of the pension, it is the end of vri and other overtime ventures. Expect the formation of a new TRU type of a unit to snatch up all those "extra" officers from the districts to place in the vri areas. Again, worry about the right things, the 50+ hours that each officer gives up if vacation and baby furlough "days" are only counted as 8 hours when the standard work day for everyone becomes 10 hours. Yes, there will eventually be less police officers needed with the new schedule and through attrition they will settle on a number when it comes to hiring. But in reality, a municipality is not only entitled to, but should be expected to tweak its departments to make them run more efficiently and decrease costs. We as tax-payers should expect them to. They wont apply this philosophy to their connected contracts or the places where the machine gets "greased", but they will gladly do it for the public employees. Oh, and even if they cut 1/3rd of the department, don't expect your property taxes to go down any.
Release the videos of JR's "Robbery" and make him explain exactly what he was doing.
NOW is the time for a March with Fioretti!
Anyone with any time on the job shouldn't be surprised in the slightest. The FOP was told a date by the city that was then related at the general meeting. Then the checks didn't come-shocking! I love how everyone is stunned! The checks will come, probably a week late. If people couldn't predict an alleged "glitch" or just plain indifference or incompetence and are in disbelief, I can offer you a way to invest your retro: oceanfront property development in Arizona.
He thinks cops are stupid, and he may be correct, since so many accepted this contract. He will pay you as close to the election as possible, so that you are grateful and vote for him.
Put that photo of Rahm on a poster under every speed and red light camera in the city with the caption<" PAY UP SUCKERS".
Fioretti shold plan and announce a program to get computer traffic controls that will get traffic moving efficiently and safe drivers time and fuel. This would cut air pollution and save citizens money.
As soon as he would do this Rahm would unveil such a program from Daley/Venecko Traffic Management Inc., It would cost multi millions and gridlock the entire city.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If any coppers with more than 5 years on is surprised that your retro check isn't in hand, you're a moron. Typical city/Cpd bullshit
1/27/2015 09:08:00 AM
First off, if you need the retro so badly that you are shitting your pants you are in serious trouble.
Second, with each missed contract deadline you should act as if you won't get retro at all.
This will be my third retro check.
The first two both came within the time frame agreed to by the city. Rahm aint going to pay anybody that works for the city 4% intrest by missing the deadline.
That is all.
"Dad is "gonna fuck with the pigs' money for what they said about me and my family on that police blog".
1/27/2015 01:17:00 AM
Pigs? Really? Guard them 24 hours per day, drive them back and forth to school, and you're a "pig?"
Power to the people, right on, there, Zach.
>raise up clenched fist<
If you owe the city money and decide to pay late they collect + late fees. Now it owes us and what happens if it is late??? This how government is run in a "free" country.
Anonymous said...
How can we even get the 2 percent penalty if we don't even know when that starts. (or is that a rumor also?)
1/27/2015 08:40:00 AM
Forget about the 2% penalty. 2% on say $6,000 is $120 or 33 cents a day so I wouldn't get too excited about the penalty
Last FOP meeting they said 26 January for Retro checks. The FOP doesn't ever seem to know what's going on; Retro, body cameras, 10 hour day, Governor releasing that animal Morgan from prison. They're clueless.
Flop...
Anonymous said...
How about our spouses and significant others going down to City Hall and protesting and picketing since we would be suspended or targeted if we did. "Where's our retro" "Pay up Rahm" "No retro no revenue" etc etc etc...
1/27/2015 06:40:00 AM
Good luck on that one , dreamer
Anyone see Sat. Sun Times? Rahm had one of his yes men corporation counsel right a "friend of the court" letter to the Illinois Supreme Court warning of the dire consequences that would come about if they strike down Quinn n Rahm's previous pension reform.
I hope the Illinois Supreme Court sees this for the hollow argument that it is. Rahm has made no sort of good faith effort to shore up our pensions yet he keeps pushing for "reform" aka cuts.
Rahm has the means to contribute the court mandated deposits into our pension funds but simply refuses to do so because he doesn't like or agree with our current pension system.
Whenever he, or any of his yes people, talk about the pension they regurgitate Rahm's mantra that he won't consider additional funding until reform, aka cuts, are established.
Fuck you Rahm. Contrary to your heightened opinion of yourself you're not King.
We talk negatively about the Mayor, his son, and our own union. CFD endorses the Mayor keeps quite and does their job and its a wonder why they get the retro check early and their contract done first. We are our own worst enemy. Its a shame and embarrassing. All people do especially on here is complain about nonsense. I cant want till I make the jump to CFD. If i don't this still ain't a bad job. Lets stop whining fella's beats working for a living.
I have 19 years on, quite possibly the worst union regime ever...boy have things gotten fucked up at our union.
Then do we start waiting for the next RETRO CHECK?
Rahm is reading this and laughing his little balls off!
Saying to himself...I can't believe how worked up these guys get over a few dollars in retro pay.
So, all I have to do is let the contract expire and offer them a retro check and they will do whatever I want!!!! Brilliant!
Thanks Suckers!
Don't forget to vote for Rahm like you did for his shitty contract!
Remember now " we ain't gonna do any better"
You idiots voted for this nonsense
You want to see real deparent that sticks together take a look at New York City
Hey, if we go to 10hr days can I work VRI all three of my days off?
Signed, Mush
The CFD rank and file endorsed Rahm we didn't
You gotta love FOP:
"In an attempt to dispel the rumors, . . . . the City has until 2 FEB 15 to comply with its obligations"
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RUMORS ? ? ?
Can you believe these ASSHOLES at FOP??
It was THEY at the FOP who said the checks would have been ready on 26 January in the first place.
What was that so fucking difficult FOP???
Are you guys THAT behind in technology??
Something so simple???
Last FOP meeting they said 26 January for Retro checks. The FOP doesn't ever seem to know what's going on;. . .
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Yup.
Meeting is online.
Just play it back.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How about our spouses and significant others going down to City Hall and protesting and picketing since we would be suspended or targeted if we did. "Where's our retro" "Pay up Rahm" "No retro no revenue" etc etc etc...
1/27/2015 06:40:00 AM
How about you use some common sense and think about how petty and whiny that makes us all look to the general public? Nothing like HELPING to turn public sentiment against us even more; you go picket over a check that's coming in a couple of days, anyway.
Off topic: someone please tell me what VRE actually stands for
Will no retro checks affect VRI?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
WTF? I need the retro to pay for my leaking roof and the boiler needs to be replaced. Also I am pissed that VRI is going to end soon. I need the extra money.
1/27/2015 07:55:00 AM
Did you just get on the job? Live within you're means and you shouldn't be scrapping away waiting for a retro check or VRI money to keep a roof above you're head. Thank God VRI is gonna end soon, maybe now the city will hire money people to contribute to the pension.
Anonymous said...
Good job SCC, looks like the FOP updated its website thanks to you
Per site 02feb is the 75 day mark
1/27/2015 09:46:00 AM
*****
This was explained at the union meeting last Tuesday. If your unit or watch rep wasn't there or did not disseminate the info you might want to ask him/her what are they doing to get their dues money back at the end of the year.
This happen twice exactly the same way under Donahue' reign.
But to be honest fop's web master should have post this right after the meeting last week.
Les S---still proud of your little jagballs nephew?
What F-ing difference does it make if we get the checks on 26 Jan or 02 Feb? Yea I would like it a week earlier but what difference is a week?
Because it's OUR money that's OWED to us and It's not in our best interest for the city to be collecting interest on OUR money when we could be. Money in our pocket is working capital, money they're holding on to is not. Basic economics.
I word to the wise just live on what we make on the 1st and the 16th. VRI, Special employment, and forced overtime are not guaranteed to last forever.
Agreed, but that doesn't make it right to hold on to money owed to us. That argument would go over real well with businesses and creditors that you owe money to wouldn't it? I don't feel like paying my electric bill this month because you guys should live on what you make... you sound ridiculous with this argument. Retro is not a gift, it's money owed to us because it wasn't payed on time due to an expired contract.
The city has 75 days from the day HE SIGNED it. We hate him and therefore FOP did not endorse him. Do you expect the city to give you the checks a minute earlier then they have too?
I expect nothing else from the city but to fuck us at every turn and chance they get. That's a real intelligent strategy on their part to make their employees miserable and angry. I never understood that business model/strategy. It may work fine in the fast food industry but it's pretty stupid to do to your police department.
A lot of the other unions are endorsing 9.5. We did not. Shit only about a third of all member's are registered to vote city wide.
So what?
PS: Jury duty lists are taken for voter lists AND Illinois Driver License lists too.
Again, so what?
1/27/2015 12:42:00 AM
If you want your money and you want it now call JGwentworth. Otherwise just wait.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
11th Dist King said...
Instead of worrying about a lousy few bucks with the retro, how bout we worry about our pensions, the bs 10 hour day which will eliminate a whole watch and officers contributing to the pension fund. How bout we worry about each other. How bout......ahhh who am I kidding, all of us only worry about me, me, me, me, me, me.
We will never stick together. Sure lets do the 10 hour day so I can have 3 days off. Don't cry about your pension NOT being there when you retire. Hey you got 3 days off, then you went and worked 2 out of the 3 doing side jobs.
1/27/2015 02:50:00 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
The pension issue will be decided very soon when it comes time for the city to make that $600 million payment. The shorter the fund is, the easier it is for the city to claim that it is an unreasonable burden. Other than our contributions, the pension fund is NOT our responsibility, it is the cities. We put in our part and have no say from there how it is handled. As a result, it is in the current state it is because of the mismanagement by the city. Theoretically, the city is obligated to pay us our pensions even when it gets to the point where no police officers are paying into it (phasing it out in the future). I'm not saying that you shouldn't worry about it, but worry about the right things. This upcoming payment is the first hurdle. Less officers paying into it in the future is the least of our problems with it. Count on this, there will be a time in the near future where a pension of any kind is no longer offered to new city employees. When that happens, they still are required to fulfill their obligation to those eligible to collect on a pension. I would expect them to try to weasle out of it somehow, maybe trying a buyout or something. But that is a fight for another day.
And the 10 hour day is not the end of the pension, it is the end of vri and other overtime ventures. Expect the formation of a new TRU type of a unit to snatch up all those "extra" officers from the districts to place in the vri areas. Again, worry about the right things, the 50+ hours that each officer gives up if vacation and baby furlough "days" are only counted as 8 hours when the standard work day for everyone becomes 10 hours. Yes, there will eventually be less police officers needed with the new schedule and through attrition they will settle on a number when it comes to hiring. But in reality, a municipality is not only entitled to, but should be expected to tweak its departments to make them run more efficiently and decrease costs. We as tax-payers should expect them to. They wont apply this philosophy to their connected contracts or the places where the machine gets "greased", but they will gladly do it for the public employees. Oh, and even if they cut 1/3rd of the department, don't expect your property taxes to go down any.
1/27/2015 12:35:00 PM
agreed on the pension obligations, Detroit went bankrupt but in court they were ordered to pay full first responders pensions if they refused any federal money (which all cities receive) would be diverted to pensions first they went through a rough period getting checks but now the precendent was set!
"...Rahm just lost my vote..."
Why did. He have it in the first place?
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
to 1/27/15 1235pm you sir hit it right on the head and are very correct, we are either heading for a 401k plan with a reduced pension plan or a sizable reduction in pensions benefits with a sizable increase in pension contributions a plan that is only funded at 37 percent is a fund that will down real quick also forget 10 hr days 12 hrdays are coming
Just because some people only have 2 yrs on with CPD does not mean they were not cops before coming here. They probably do more work then you have in ur entire career. Also u act like we don't pay are dues. I pay into a pension, I put my life on the line and I sure as hell am entitled to everything I am owed. You probably don't even have a stash!!
I love it.. Almost everyone I know "voted no" for the contract and they are the first ones screaming where's my money!!! After all your talk saying the city can keep the money and screw the retro bot no yada yada yada is now the loudest criers about getting a check. Some people just love crying about retro especially on facebook. Especially 2nd watch mush S.C. From 007. Isn't your "financial" business side job keeping you afloat. All you do is cry about the contract, cry about money, cry about the mayor, cry about the city and the department. Haven't you ever heard of just going to work and then leave and go home? Don't being any aspect of this job home with you. It's a job and that's it, a well paying job at that. Quit your crying sc and leave the job at work and focus on improving your personality.
Do the math. The city has made about $3500 is interest since the city council approved the shit contract.
Think about that voters of Dean, the contract and Rahm... 8500 police officers being slowly screwed over for less than 4 grand.
You reap what you sow
Off topic: someone please tell me what VRE actually stands for
1/27/2015 03:02:00 PM
Good question.
Violence Reduction Extension?
What's amazing is that Dean failed to endorse Pat O'Connor because he failed to show up to the PAC meeting . Failed to call personally his office to check why. Dissed the most pro-police Alderman in the council .
That was the crack in the system . Who was In charge of that debacle ? Ray " the scarecrow "Casiano , Greg " the wizard " Bella, Dean " the cowardly Lion ," or the rest of the flying monkees ? What about Tommy ? Oh yeah he's still ducking the 18th District fiasco !!!!!
The FOP failed to endorse Rahm because of the repercussions if they did . They are worried more about their own asses instead of ours . Therein lies the problem !!!!!!! Believe me they hope he wins !!!
and i think FOPs math is off... they said if not by feb 2nd, city starts paying interest... thing was finalized on nov 12... mon the 26th was exactly 75 days
Does anyone know about retirees retro? Ok have at it.
Anonymous said...
I contacted the fop yesterday morning after not seeing my money deposited. I was told that the comptrollers office contacted the fop in regards to the retro and it would be paid out sometime this week. When I asked the lady, "is there a date?" she responded "no". She also stated that the retro must be paid out by 02FEB15 otherwise the city would incur interest on the amount owed. Go figure...the same bullshit for the past 17 yrs. of the city finding a way to put you in limbo.
NO RETRO=NO WORK
1/27/2015 09:01:00 AM
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Then, do not take your regular paychecks because you are not working.
Rahmbo gives the police a big "FUCK YOU", FLOP had better not negotiate ANYTHING with that fuckin douchebag in regards to the pension. $600 million at the end of the year mother fucker! Don't have it? Fuck You! Pay up Bitch!
1/27/15. 01:22 when you started paying dues..
Uckfay Ouyay, If you think Wilson would be a good Mayor.....
Feb 9th early voting starts.
Feb 2nd retro checks come in???
Never let a crisis go to waste.
Happy police Don't vote!
Don't forget your pension is on the line if you make excuses not to vote.
Is it me or are people righting ANOV's still?
I swear we have no backbone.
go with the contact card goofs. the waitresses always give me their info.
I'm retired a couple years now and I'm owed 1/4 of the retro no big deal,but since I am now a citizen I can tell an interesting story,I was at a parade this summer and Rahm was shaking hands,doing that political thing,and as he approach me we shook hands and I said to him,I'm a retired police officer "don't mess with my pension" and he said in a smart aleck fashion," I'm not going to mess with her pension,but I'm messing with yours,"right then I knew he has no love for us,and didn't care about our vote......need I say more!
1/27/2015 01:07:00 AM
This and a dozen other stories like it make my blood boil when I see this little runt out and about. He truly believes he is a higher being and we are but serfs. He has taken the Napoleon complex to a new level.
I will add my own story of working Special and being assigned to his detail at a CTA station. We were ordered to be near enough to save his ass if one of the unwashed got in his face, but we were informed he did not wish to see us. We were to remain out of his sight. I got stuck on a Michelle Obama gig too. Same thing. Do not let the Queen see you.
I cannot for the life of me understand how these bastards get this high opinion of themselves. They are public servants, not royalty.
I almost didn't put this next part in because it makes it sounds partisan, but what the hell. I worked a Bush detail and he actually stopped talking to the person he was walking with and shook my hand when he passed. He thanked me for "all that you guys do".
Rahm's treatment of the rank and file should motivate all to get their friends and neighbors out to vote. Force the run off and vote for the other guy. Rahm is despicable, just a miserable excuse for a human being.
Off topic. Chicago Police Officers from Brotherhood for the Fallen Organization doing the right thing. Stay safe everybody. RIP Constable Wynn.
http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/mobile/fallen-mountie-described-as-joyful-and-witty-brother-husband-father-1.2206576
I'll only say this once, a ratification by the city council, or the U.S. congress doesn't mean shit until the head excutive signs it. Then the clock started.
02FEB is the deadline. Checks are at 35th street. It takes a while to distribute. So everybody relax.
OT.
Don't forget to let the residents fend for themselves.
Police = Bad.
Thug criminal = Good.
The new world order.
PLEASE POST THIS MR SCC
One of the most important elections of 2015 is right around the corner -- and Democracy for America is in the thick of it, defending progressive champions against a notorious corporate Democrat.
That notorious figure is none other than Rahm Emanuel. As mayor of Chicago, Rahm has unleashed an unprecedented attack on working families, especially the poor and people of color. Here are just a few of the terrible things Rahm has done as mayor:
He closed more than 50 public neighborhood schools, primarily in African American and Latino neighborhoods.
He closed half of Chicago's public mental health clinics, leaving many of the poorest and most in need without access to quality, affordable care.
He attacked unions, including cutting pension benefits while using tax dollars for corporate subsidies.
He refused to hire more police officers to combat the city's crime problem, citing budgetary constraints.
He broke his promise of openness, fighting efforts at increased transparency, ignoring community input, and micro-managing the press.
Seven Aldermen -- John Arena, Toni Foulkes, Leslie Hairston, Rick Munoz, Roderick Sawyer, Nick Sposato, and Scott Waguespack -- have taken the lead in fighting Rahm's corporate agenda. Now Rahm is coming after them, using millions of dollars in a Super PAC funded by large corporations to try and defeat these seven progressive Aldermen. Rahm's goal: replace them with cronies who answer only to him and his wealthy backers, rather than to the people.
If Rahm Emanuel wins the mayoral election in February (or a runoff in April), he will have no unified opposition on the City Council. He will be able to kneecap progressive power in Chicago -- just as progressives are winning important victories in cities like Los Angeles, New York, Seattle, and more.
That's why DFA is endorsing these seven Alderman candidates -- who we're calling the Chicago Seven -- and we need your support to defend them and defeat Emanuel.
Chicago DFA members have put out a national call for help to support these seven Alderman candidates under attack from Rahm Emanuel. Will you come to their aid? Stand with the Chicago Seven by chipping in $3 or more today!
DFA is making a significant investment in defending the Chicago Seven. With your help, we are launching a major field campaign in these seven wards. We're recruiting friends, family, and neighbors, launching phonebanks, and canvassing neighborhoods.
This is a grassroots, people-powered operation -- in stark contrast to the top-down, big money, negative campaign that Rahm Emanuel is leading against these progressives.
With your help we can send a strong message to Rahm Emanuel and leaders across America that progressives reject the agenda of privatization, public school closings, and stagnant wages for working families. We will show that we fight for an economy that works for everyone -- and that we will hit the streets and the phones to defend those elected officials who stand with us.
We have less than a month to go before the first round of elections. These seven Alderman candidates need your help today to defend themselves against Rahm Emanuel's attacks. Please chip in $3 or more to help DFA build a people-powered campaign to re-elect the Chicago Seven!
The whole world is watching. Thank you for helping win this important election.
- Jim
Jim Dean, Chair
Democracy for America
SCC for FOP President!
ANYONE but Rahm!
02FEB is the deadline. Checks are at 35th street. It takes a while to distribute. So everybody relax.
Relax this!!! FLOP is Silent on this and the Body Cameras
ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz No Leadership
Off topic: someone please tell me what VRE actually stands for
1/27/2015 03:02:00 PM
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You have to say it with an excited lisp and spirit fingers.. It is violence reduction extravaganzaaaaaaaa!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic: someone please tell me what VRE actually stands for
1/27/2015 03:02:00 PM
Sure.
Video Recording Equipment
"Anonymous said...
Do the math. The city has made about $3500 is interest since the city council approved the shit contract.
Think about that voters of Dean, the contract and Rahm... 8500 police officers being slowly screwed over for less than 4 grand.
You reap what you sow
1/27/2015 05:27:00 PM"
You're retarded if you think the City has only made $3500 interest on retro money held since contract approval by City Council on 05NOV14. You don't think the City isn't getting at least 3% interest on their money? Shit, Chicago Blended Fixed Income with Nationwide is a cash account yielding a shade under 3% JUST FOR A CASH INVESTMENT.
That is $4.00 interest per $50,000 OR $80.00 per interest per 1 million, PER DAY. SO, now that we got that little bit of math out of the way, let's get down to the REAL reason why the City, or more specifically, the little midget ballerina with 9.5 fingers, is with-holding retro pay as long as he can.
The estimate for total back pay is $65 million.
$65 million X $80.00 (interest per 1 million) = $5200.00 PER DAY.
As of 02FEB15, 89 days will have elapsed that the City has gained interest at the interest rate of 3%.
$5200 X 89 days = $462,800.00
Hardly chump change.
2FEB is the deadline. Checks are at 35th street. It takes a while to distribute. So everybody relax.
Relax this!!! FLOP is Silent on this and the Body Cameras
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what do you want the FOP to say about the body cameras. do you want them to speak out that we dont want the cameras??? Que the public.. Why dont the police want body cameras? What are they trying to hide? What dont the police want us to see? Hey, guess what. Within the next 3 years everyone in a beat car will have a body camera just like the in car camera. It is a piece of equipment, the city has full authority on what equipment is to be used by the department. FOP has absolutly NO say on this. The department pulled a meigs field approach with the body cameras and just showed up in 014 and said ok now we are gonna start the program. The FOP sent reps out to 014 to check everything out and talk to the tech people who were implementing it. The FOP also beefed to the city and immediatly had a meeting with the Supt and a half a dozen white shirts and members of the Law Department. The beefs were explained about no training and potential of civil rights violations of recording people when not appropriate. the department and city said they will take it under advisement and "work on it". When it comes to equipment the city can do absolutly 100 percent anything they want. if a civil lawsuit is filed for violation of civil rights then it will be against the city for failure to train which the city is aware of. the fop cant file a grievance, lawsuit injunction or anything else because it is equipment. cameras are here and here to stay. we will all have them and there is absolutely nothing we or the FOP can and will do because all the power in this issue is with the city. now go cry about something else.
to 5;04 am I don't know West I'm sure she's a goof but I wish all roll calls were actually on time. I think its pathetic how the same people are late everyday have some pride.
The Real Skinny On Retro said...
Here's the 100%, honest-to-God's truth about the retro:
My nephew goes to school with Zach Emanuel. Little Zach has a big mouth, especially since he was "victimized". Seems he's recently been bragging to the other kids that his Dad is "gonna fuck with the pigs' money for what they said about me and my family on that police blog". He started with this after the family returned from the Xmas vacation, but none of the kids payed him much attention because it was old news by then.
Seems the Tiny Dancer is extra pissed that his kids robbery story got dissected and called out for what it is - PURE BULLSHIT. He has minions who read this blog (FACT) and report back with any/all information that has the potential for damage to him or his family.
In short, this is a big FUCK YOU, you'll wait for your money for talking shit about my son.
1/27/2015 01:17:00 AM
My brother-in-law's third cousin's wife's sister's son goes to school with your nephew and Zach and he says your version of what Zach said is total BS; a figment of your fertile imagination conceived in your mommy's basement. Slip another Star Trek video into the machine, start watching it and let the adults play here, moron.
How about our spouses and significant others going down to City Hall and protesting and picketing since we would be suspended or targeted if we did. "Where's our retro" "Pay up Rahm" "No retro no revenue" etc etc etc...
1/27/2015 06:40:00 AM
Good luck on that one , dreamer
MAYBE Dean would take them to lunch?
Dean Wants to make No Waves
so *Jr gets fast track to Commander
FLOP hasnt fought for anything
The Silence is Golden Get it!
So when is Angelos kid getting his chevons?
Rham you just lost the election!!!!!
from FOP email just received:
Fraternal Order of Police Chicago Lodge #7
January 27, 2015
Retro Update
In an attempt to dispel the rumors, the Contract was approved by the City Council on 5 NOV 14 and signed off by both parties (the Lodge and the Mayor) on 18 NOV 14, thereby completing the ratification process. The 75 day clock began to run on 19 NOV 14, making 2 FEB 15 the final day to pay the retro-activity without penalty. This process is consistent with past practice. Although many believed that the checks were to arrive on 26 JAN 15, the City has until 2 FEB 15 to comply with its obligations.
Chicago Lodge 7
Fraternal Order of Police Chicago Lodge #7
Blow Me
I apologize ahead of time but we have now what we deserve. This has come about from years of children not being 'parented' correctly. The problem is from years of kids on video games, movies and now i-pods, i-pads, x-boxs, psps...not playing outside and getting into kid-type arguments and settling them amongst themselves...sometimes fistacuffs happen, but they would learn. We now have the Department, and society that we deserve (but people like John Wayne wouldn't stand). Self-centered egotists whose only care is of themselves and what is owed them run rampant, much like the idiotic politicians they continue to elect. It is shameful that it has come to this. I am sure I am among many who would rather avoid the city I am forced to live in and would much rather run from it.
Pat O'Connor is not pro police. He is leading the effort to strip retirees' of their health care. He was a lapdog for Shortshanks, and is a bootlegger for Rahm. He and Barb, should both be indicted for the shenanigans with the developers in that ward.
Once the city realized they could bribe the PO' s with their own money (retro) it was all over.....
Anonymous said...
I love it.. Almost everyone I know "voted no" for the contract and they are the first ones screaming where's my money!!! After all your talk saying the city can keep the money and screw the retro bot no yada yada yada is now the loudest criers about getting a check. Some people just love crying about retro especially on facebook. Especially 2nd watch mush S.C. From 007. Isn't your "financial" business side job keeping you afloat. All you do is cry about the contract, cry about money, cry about the mayor, cry about the city and the department. Haven't you ever heard of just going to work and then leave and go home? Don't being any aspect of this job home with you. It's a job and that's it, a well paying job at that. Quit your crying sc and leave the job at work and focus on improving your personality.
1/27/2015 05:18:00 PM
I think I know to whom you are referring and I have an entirely different impression of him and question your motives on calling him out on here.
If you know what he's posting on FB, then he must mistakenly consider you a "friend."
He raised money this weekend for Lurie Children's Hospital and will be raising funds this weekend in Dallas for first responders.
And exactly what good deeds have you done this week?
Dr dean did not specify what the interest would be or when the interest would begin accruing.
Talk about lack of foresight.
What is his disability??? I hope it is not a mental issue.
Or could it be height related, like that classic hero from fantasy island?
Boss the Plane the Plane!
It is a pre-hairgel reference sorry...
Because of this endorsment- Rahm will pass an ordinance- that all Fireman must wear their uniforms all of the time. Wait they already do that. I think rahm has a thing for Fireman
Rahmbo gives the police a big "FUCK YOU", FLOP had better not negotiate ANYTHING with that fuckin douchebag in regards to the pension. $600 million at the end of the year mother fucker! Don't have it? Fuck You! Pay up Bitch!
1/27/2015 06:59:00 PM
Rahm has absolutely no intention whatsoever of coming up with that balloon payment.
The courts decision on that was made back in 2009 or 2010 so the city has had ample time to find revenue and budget for it. Instead all they've done is bitch and moan and whine about what a terrible hardship it would be.
Hey Rahm I feel it's a terrible hardship to see you piss away my tax money on a Maggie Daley park, DePaul arena etc.
Also what about your huge nest egg of TIFF's?
You wanna cry poor and feel sorry for yourself due to the court ordered balloon payment? Then let's open up the books for a forensic audit!
Did any of these thriving politicians ever think that if they hadn't misdirected and stolen funds from our pension funds that maybe the courts wouldn't have had to step in and mandate the large balloon payment??
Disability Dean is a fraud! Scammed disability and was voted in as FOP president. Disability Dean should have never been given disability! He needs to go!
Wasnt it Sheilds that said there was under the table or backdoor deals going on . I think we just seen it ourself boys and girls. Stay safe.
to 5;04 am I don't know West I'm sure she's a goof but I wish all roll calls were actually on time. I think its pathetic how the same people are late everyday have some pride.
1/27/2015 10:49:00 PM
As a patrolperson now Commander West used to bring a full sized pillow to roll call so that she could sleep comfortably in her squad car on midnights.
She will never have any credibility with the rank and file. We know why she is where she is. So does she when she looks in the mirror. Apparently it makes her angry.
Well to all you pontificating all knowing coppers...some coppers, who have kids, and whose spouse either doesn't work or lost her job, are looking for that check to ease up some pressures.
So don't be so quick to judge.
It'll be like judging those coppers that work VRI,CTA,SURGE,PARKS,CHA and so on and are married to a copper bringing home over 170k combined on regular pay!
Fiorettii wants to tax people who work in the city but live outside, but said he had no intention of using the money to shore up our pensions
The Real Skinny On Retro said...
Here's the 100%, honest-to-God's truth about the retro:
My nephew goes to school with Zach Emanuel. Little Zach has a big mouth, especially since he was "victimized". Seems he's recently been bragging to the other kids that his Dad is "gonna fuck with the pigs' money for what they said about me and my family on that police blog". He started with this after the family returned from the Xmas vacation, but none of the kids payed him much attention because it was old news by then.
Seems the Tiny Dancer is extra pissed that his kids robbery story got dissected and called out for what it is - PURE BULLSHIT. He has minions who read this blog (FACT) and report back with any/all information that has the potential for damage to him or his family.
In short, this is a big FUCK YOU, you'll wait for your money for talking shit about my son.
1/27/2015 01:17:00 AM
My brother-in-law's third cousin's wife's sister's son goes to school with your nephew and Zach and he says your version of what Zach said is total BS; a figment of your fertile imagination conceived in your mommy's basement. Slip another Star Trek video into the machine, start watching it and let the adults play here, moron
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Belittling someone is the first sign that there is a grain of truth to the story.
Stories seem to be aligning. Time to go Rahm. Bye bye.
02FEB is the deadline. Checks are at 35th street. It takes a while to distribute. So everybody relax.
Then flop shouldn't have told us we would have them on the 26th!!!!
da fuck is going on here?
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More Socialist,Communist,and Progressive agendas?
Just what Chicago needs.
GFY, asshole.
Where my Retro is Rob Emmanual?
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