Tuesday, March 24, 2015

About that "Profiling"

Remember all those warnings about Contact Cards being used against the police like Stop-and-Frisk in New York? Here we go:
  • Blacks in Chicago are more likely to be subjected to a "stop and frisk" by police than any other race, a report by the American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois indicates.

    The report, released Monday, also says officers in the Second City used the controversial technique far more often than did officers in New York City.

    The ACLU said Chicago officers last summer conducted more than 250,000 stops of people who weren't arrested. The ACLU also said that almost three-fourths of those stopped were African American, though they make up about a third of the city's population.
This is a report by the ACLU. There's a reason these assholes are known by various names (All Criminals/Commies Love Us, A Clump of Losers United, etc) They are an agenda-driven set of leftist lawyers who had to be shamed into admitting people have a right to say offensive things. This study is a blueprint of left-wing indoctrination passed along by the leftist media. We could take this thing apart in our sleep. Or now.

First up, the population stats. The report uses this graphic:


See that circle on the right? Black 32% White 32%?  That means that Blacks are not the minority. Oops. So right away, the entire study is suspect.

Next, where's the breakdown of neighborhoods? Chicago is still one of the more racially divided cities around. If you were to take a survey of say...the 003rd District, you'd be hard pressed to find someone who wasn't Black. Same for 006, 007 and a few other places. Any given spread of street stops is going to trend toward a darker skin color. In fact, being pale in those locations is going to attract a lot more attention.

Now, where's the breakdown of Officers at the District level? Dirty little CPD secret - there are certain districts in the city where the vast majority of officers working there are of a certain skin tone and a lot of that has to do with politics. How is a District with 70-to-80% Black officers supposed to be racially profiling a District that is 85-to-90% Black? Actually, how can a White officer working in a District that is 90%-plus Black racially profile?

Finally, the uncomfortable part - hop over to HeyJackass.com and look at this graphic:


That's a tough one to swallow right there for the ACLU - race of attacker and race of victim - and that's just counting the homicides. We're willing to bet the maimings/woundings are similar and the armed robberies and more than a few other crimes. By whatever metric you use, Black criminals are victimizing Black citizens at a rate far outweighing their supposed "minority" status. It ain't the police doing it. The police are trying to stop it, solve it, prevent it.

So yet another bullshit, slanted, slanderous study that points the finger directly at the police, and the ACLU thinks more "oversight" and "checkboxes" and Consent Decrees will solve everything, all while blood fills the gutters.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's all the bosses, having everyone just grab people to fill out cards. So everyone can say we are working. Now it back fired.

3/24/2015 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's over on Yahoo's website too. A lot of the comments are either pro-police, or "what'd you expect when the people committing the majority of the crimes are minorities?"

I'd still like to see Rahm and McCarthy get burned by this though.

3/24/2015 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wasn't supposed to ask people their race for those cards. Thus they all looked white to me. I told everyone to do the same but you know how stubborn cops are. No one ever said shit to me.

3/24/2015 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, great points! Here are a few others.

Break down the calls for service by neighborhood/district.
List the number of officers sent from one district to work in another district for a tour, and from where to where, and for what reason.
In all calls for service list caller descriptions of offenders by race and what percentage these make up.

Finally, ACLU, stop looking at the little guys on the department. How about policies such as the required number of contact cards, tickets, and summons', in order to work VRI.

I

3/24/2015 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Gaylords in 025 are out of control, I think I'll go stop some of those guys.

3/24/2015 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

Stop makin' sense an' shit SCC!

Liberal Trotskyite Leftists "FEEL" that it's the Police who are the problem... Fact based, plausible refutation of their anti-Police "FEELINGS" makes these misdirected, pointed the wrong way adult children feel funny in the head and causes them real physical discomfort.

Which is why we so fervently pray that members of the armed wing of Dude Inc. would climb through all the right windows and visit with these obnoxious, divorced from reality, educated fools with ACLU and others such...

3/24/2015 12:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not sure what they were studying since the department only tracks contact not frisks. And the department uppers didn't even realize that since they are so out of touch with reality and what's going on in the real world. Ha ha merit hacks!

3/24/2015 12:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The media lapdogs do not question the ACLU statistics in the larger context of crime. What would the data of victim reported race of the offender look like? Would that reflect the city population?

3/24/2015 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bravo, SCC, bravo!

3/24/2015 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's pretty proportional to the exact distribution of violent crime in Chicago. Good job CPD.

3/24/2015 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Harassing people with Contact Cards? I get a call of a man passed out on the Sidewalk,I try to wake him up,I check his eyes and realize he is Overdosing on Heroin,I call CFD they shoot him up with Narcan and We saved his life,I get his info and do a Contact Card.

3/24/2015 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey assholes at the ACLU: Did you see the chart on SCC?

Guess who commits the most crime? Wouldn't it make sense that if they commit the most crime, then the actions may indicate a reasonable suspicion that criminal activity may be afoot?

ACLU: common sense isn't in your vocabulary, but maybe you could offer classes in it.

3/24/2015 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about another circle graph.

Areas of the city where people are underserved by police.

I haven't seen a marked CPD car on my street in months and I pay more taxes on my house than probably any resident in Englewood. Any better house in Englewood probably belongs to a rev-run and it off the tax rolls.

3/24/2015 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All SCC says is true. What is also true is that it is very unPC
and that is what is important. Progressives are ruled by PC, if it isn't PC, multicultural, diversified, reeking of cultural equality, than it is wrong and bad.

3/24/2015 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The proportions look like the proportions for people that commit Homicide or are victims of Homicide.

Where's the racism in that?

3/24/2015 12:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Better start hassling more Asians, you racists.

3/24/2015 12:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is just what Obama needs to justify his feds taking over the Chicago Police. Maybe the feds can also fix the pension problems for the CPD too!

3/24/2015 01:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Start annoying more pasty hued taxpayers! That will endear them to the CPD.

3/24/2015 01:03:00 AM  
Blogger I Fart In Your General Direction said...

Can't tell you how many times the hairgels were warned that this was going to come back and bite them in their asses.

While whiling away the time in a jury room at 26th Street just a few weeks ago, one particular hairgel proudly boasted how he wrote 31 contact cards in one day. When I asked if any reasonable person would believe that it would be possible to to encounter 31 individuals "having just committed, in the process of committing or about to commit a crime" to justify a contact card, he just laughed and said "nobody pays attention to this shit anyway".

If that particular idiot is reading this post and recognizes it, I again ask: is it possible to stop someone that meets the parameter(s) of being subject to a contact card every 15 minutes during an eight hour tour of duty filled with calls for service, lunch and any/every other variable involved in day-to-day policing?

You stupid bastards were repeatedly warned but yet chose to explore gray areas in order to impress Bossholes that kept the spigot on the Company Kool-Aid tap a-flowin'.

This ball is just getting rolling, folks. Better strap yourselves in because this is going to be a bumpy ride when all is said and done.

3/24/2015 01:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't murder people. I don't rob, assault, or rape people either. So what fancy excuse do you have for why the majority of the black population are subject to demeaning stop and frisks in this city because a portion (not even half) of the black population commits crime?

3/24/2015 01:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Profiling Wrong? Mohammad Atta and a group of men from Saudi Arabia rent a Motel and sign up for flying lessons, They tell the instructors they dont want to learn how to do take off and landings but want to learn how to stear the planes,Well we know the end of that Story,SORRY ACLU,I miss my Brother Resque Company 1 NYFD...

3/24/2015 02:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good points SCC...'specially about Progressives. By the way, doesn't Cgo have the largest number of Gangs in the country? Doesn't that count? What are Police to do?? Sit it out or do their jobs.

3/24/2015 02:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Work the west side on midnights. On any given night, weather reasonable, you will see scores of people out and about walking the streets. Or sitting on cars drinking and smoking or hanging out in front of a house that they don't live at. Or hanging out in front of a liquor store which there are plenty to choose from. This goes on EVERY DAY. Drive around my neighborhood during these same hours, you will not see nor hear a single person. No one walking the streets, blaring loud music from their cars while drinking booze from a plastic cup, shooting dice on the sidewalk, slinging dope or just standing around because they have nothing better to do. Maybe the puss bags from the ACLU need to get out a little more and re-introduce themselves to reality. Yeah right.

3/24/2015 02:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ACLU your a joke why not admit it you don't have a clue about what's going on here.

3/24/2015 03:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is one of the reasons why I left the unit I was in for a beat car. I was busting my ass, writing search warrants, going to court 4 times a week, never being home, putting the people who make black neighborhoods terrible in jail. Why? So people can say I'm racist for doing it? So I can continually get sued for completely fictional allegations? The public doesn't want us to clean up black neighborhoods, the courts don't want us to, and the county jail and prisons don't want to hold them because... racism I guess. So fuck it I drive around in uniform in my beat car and answer calls and that's all I will do until retirement because that is what the public wants us to do.

3/24/2015 04:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More stupid sht that collectivelly could have helped towards -PENSION- Just follow the bouncing balls folks.Speaking of pie graphs let's continue with the IQ graph...OUCH!!! burns like holy water E
H? (libtards hair on fire running,down street,all the while burning ever more fierclly) That's where the cards belong -BURNED- Ya know... like dudley er,daley crime familys closet fire that killed an innocent woman(oh? that's what happened to the pension records...vanecko looting et al).

3/24/2015 04:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Progressive Democrat said...

Please delete this thread. It does not fit our narrative and we know what's best for you. That is why we manipulate any statistics we find.

3/24/2015 05:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All we hear from the bosses even to this day is "more contact cards" repeated over and over. They act as though we are just supposed to pull them out of the air. Of course they all know their names are never on them so no worries for them. This is one big "me me" police department driven by the bosses.

3/24/2015 05:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the words of that asshat Bill Nolan.... Enjoy your lawsuits.

3/24/2015 05:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Depose Lemmer and Masters in 011 and the other Bosses that restricted Time Due based on Contact Card Production and every other Boss that used a failure to produce Contact Cards as a basis for harassment. Let them all explain Under Oath how they virtually "Ordered" the harassment of Innocent People of Color. Also, wasn't the Contact Card the single piece of legislation attributed to Barry Obama and Rev. Meeks, both of whom now support Rahm?"G"

3/24/2015 05:49:00 AM  
Anonymous FutureSupervisor001 said...

Per the GO, contact cards are part of the investigatory tool.

You utilize a contact card during an investigation or a traffic stop IF...."no report or ticket is written".

EX: If you stop a vehicle for running a stop sign. An you do NOT write a mover, you can place the driver info into the contact card system.

EX2: You are investigating a suspicious person in the alley looking into people backyards, you observe the person, and conduct a field interview, you can complete a contact card...IF there is no arrest.

And remember folks, the person that you are field contacting does not have to stand there and wait for the name check to clear, nor do they have to give you their info if no crime exist, they can simply walk away and it is legal.

Please read your general order on proper field contact system the next time you are sitting in rollcall instead of wasting time bad mouthing the C/O...

3/24/2015 05:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's funny, just last week we were told we were down contact cards and were up for compstat. I guess we won't be down anymore. Zero from me then zero now.

3/24/2015 05:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, your counter-arguments and use of DAY-ta are brilliant. How often do the city and national media outlets troll your site? Do you keep track of that? You put them all to shame. And have you ever been asked to write op-eds for print media? Please let your readers know...

3/24/2015 06:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let those Contact Cards LAWSUITS begin!

3/24/2015 06:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And its amazing that no one has questioned why officers need a certain numbered criteria to work VRI !

3/24/2015 06:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey idiot you can get 31 contact cards in 2 different corners of the west or southside in a hot summer night when the gangsters are flashing gang signs, stopping traffic while horse playing on the middle of the street, possible hand to hand transactions in high narcotics area, etc...etc....etc...etc...thats why there are rules set to avoid nonsence your gonna get suit no matter even if you just sit in your cozzy squad with your pillow and your vest off...Shit happens!

3/24/2015 06:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't blame just the p.o.'s, hope they go for these bosses that cry about contact cards! Hey media go to compstat meeting when the mc jerk is yelling at grown men and women commanders who sit there and take it cause they don't want to lose their gold braid pension about contact cards that is why! Comes from the top down!

3/24/2015 06:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Chicago Police DO PROFILE.
I've been retired a few years now [God Bless] but I did it too. The profile is "CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR" So no matter who it is, WHAT they are doing is why they get stopped.

3/24/2015 06:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoa!! SCC that means looking at Hispanic and black whites are the minority's in Chicago? Where's my free link? Phone? Free housing subsidy? Discount electric and gas? Time to apply!

3/24/2015 06:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ACLU is a group of traitors. Send them to Iran and see what happens.

3/24/2015 06:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Feds just did a report on Philadelphia. One of the failures was an inadequate Field Training Program and a policy to put new recruits on foot patrol.

Sound familiar?

3/24/2015 06:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Milwaukee cop that killed the guy who was beating cop with his own baton.....FIRED!, for initiating a pat down, you gotta be crazy to do any proactive work any more, or any police work for that matter, Unbelievable!!

3/24/2015 06:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't tell you how many times the hairgels were warned that this was going to come back and bite them in their asses.

While whiling away the time in a jury room at 26th Street just a few weeks ago, one particular hairgel proudly boasted how he wrote 31 contact cards in one day. When I asked if any reasonable person would believe that it would be possible to to encounter 31 individuals "having just committed, in the process of committing or about to commit a crime" to justify a contact card, he just laughed and said "nobody pays attention to this shit anyway".

If that particular idiot is reading this post and recognizes it, I again ask: is it possible to stop someone that meets the parameter(s) of being subject to a contact card every 15 minutes during an eight hour tour of duty filled with calls for service, lunch and any/every other variable involved in day-to-day policing?

You stupid bastards were repeatedly warned but yet chose to explore gray areas in order to impress Bossholes that kept the spigot on the Company Kool-Aid tap a-flowin'.

This ball is just getting rolling, folks. Better strap yourselves in because this is going to be a bumpy ride when all is said and done.

3/24/2015 01:09:00 AM

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I fart in your general direction...I love all of your comments so this is not a dig. Someone can contact card 31 people in a tour> Ex: Using street instead of sidewalk, riding bicycle without headlight, littering (when throwing cig butt to pavement), and on and on. The problem is that those situations are now all potentially explosive, and society will not back you. Al la Fergeson.. probable cause stop for walking in the street. The body cameras make the situation 100 times more dangerous in Chicago because it's forcing action that would not have been taken for various reasons.

3/24/2015 06:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
It's all the bosses, having everyone just grab people to fill out cards. So everyone can say we are working. Now it back fired.

3/24/2015 12:08:00 AM
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Perhaps you could take the time to explain just how this "backfired." Just because an inane study has been published means nothing.

3/24/2015 07:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't worry Gary and Rahm will hand out boat loads of tax-payer taxes to make everyone feel better.

You forgot how Rahm fought the supreme court on concealed carry and LOST! More $$$

How about those police building which were closed and still are in operations. Then Rahm comes up with the idea of putting XO's in the Area detectives units canceling out any savings.

3/24/2015 07:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ever notice in white neighborhoods, white folks don't hang out outside liquor stores nor wander about aimlessly. After dark in becomes a ghost town whereas the black community is just getting up.

3/24/2015 07:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Answer your calls, take the reports, go home safe everyday to your wife and family and retire someday and take your pension. If you think your going to be the real police out there and change anything your nuts and putting all the above at risk. This isn't the movies where law and order prevail and you are the hero. Just look at whats happening to the police who go out there and try and be the real police. Think of your family first. They need you. From 40 years of on the job.

3/24/2015 07:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry not 40 years cpd 30 there 10 elsewhere

3/24/2015 07:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC - you must have taken a course in LOGIC when it was required in college. Oh the good old days!

3/24/2015 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of the politicians and reverends want more police service in their districts. Guess what, you got it. This means more stops by police. Not so fast, now the ACLU says there are too many stops by police. Seriously. So lets get this straight you want more police In minority districts because that's where the violent crime is happening, but you dont want the police to conduct any police work? So what do you want? Why don't you think about that for a while and when you figure out what the f*ck you want you let us know.
Or maybe you can try pointing the finger at the real problem which is black people shooting black people and do something about that.
No it's easier to just blame the white police for all your problems.
Unbelieveable.

3/24/2015 07:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if you look at FBI stats, black are 6x more likely to commit homicide than whites. NOT TWICE AS LIKE, WHICH WOULD BE HUGE, BUT 6X AS LIKELY.


But Holder says the crime rate fails to explain the police stats in ferguson. How does he come to that conclusion?

3/24/2015 08:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every contact card should read i was ordered to make this contact card. Let the blame fall on the command staff. In the 19th district the commander stated in an e-mail all police officers need 5 contact cards per period.

3/24/2015 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let them kill each other, just sit in your car, watch Netflix and relax

3/24/2015 08:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Hey assholes at the ACLU: Did you see the chart on SCC?

Guess who commits the most crime? Wouldn't it make sense that if they commit the most crime, then the actions may indicate a reasonable suspicion that criminal activity may be afoot?

ACLU: common sense isn't in your vocabulary, but maybe you could offer classes in it.

3/24/2015 12:45:00 AM

The statistics are racist! Yep, the data is racist.

3/24/2015 08:21:00 AM  
Anonymous bluefluforyou said...

Here's a thought...How about they crunch the numbers on non working no tax paying link card abusers with free government issued cellphones. Let's get the breakdown of race and why they are not able to contribute to society in a positive way! When the news or media presents the numbers...Why doesn't a spokesperson give the facts of the neighborhoods in question. Pro Active police work is past history...just report it do absolutely nothing else!!!!

3/24/2015 08:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3/24/2015 01:09:00 AM

It was fun to see a hairgel get a cr# a week ago. He is new, young and dumb. He and his partner are always bringing in arrests. Most are garbage (dopw, pissing, obstructing traffic, etc.) and some good (uuw, theft, etc.). He and his partner arrested a gang banger for something minor. Then three days later mr. gang banger and his homies file bullshit complaints on him. The sgt. serves him with a cr # and mr. hair gel is shocked. That is only the beginning. You better hope and pray that mr. gang banger and his homies don't keep pressing the complaint all the way to ipra. Now that is how this department actually works.

3/24/2015 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most violent crime is caused by blacks? I don't buy it. The cause must be "institutional racism", "unconscious bias", "our past legacy of racial hatred and bias", "our flawed criminal justice system", "America's racist past", etc. and the list goes on. What is truly sad is that usually the victim is also black and no one cares about the victim but they will go through great lengths to justify the actions of the offender.

3/24/2015 08:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

31 fucking contacts cards in one eight hour shift is pure idiocy. Where is the supervision. Where is the common sense.

3/24/2015 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bottom line. Doing nothing gets you the same paycheck.

3/24/2015 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Black criminals are victimizing Black citizens at a rate far outweighing their supposed "minority" status...."

...while also making half of the city unusable by anyone else. "Sensitive Urban Zones," as the French delicately call their similarly-arranged Muslim ghettoes, where even the police are afraid to go. They even have an official atlas -- maps, everything.

http://sig.ville.gouv.fr/Atlas/ZUS/

Does "Welcome To Chicago, Rahm I. Emanuel, Mayor" print up a simple map of our own "no-go zones," to hand out to the unwary at the airports?

"It ain't the police doing it. The police are trying to stop it, solve it, prevent it."

...yet we simultaneously hear --

"BLACK LIVES MATTER!"

...and...

"We don't need nobody up in here telling us how to do."

-- Ameena Matthews, "violence interrupter" and daughter of imprisoned Black P Stone leader Jeff Fort.

Call us when you figure out what the hell.

3/24/2015 08:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"But the sure way to reduce the number of stop and frisks in black communities is to significantly reduce reduce the crime in those neighborhoods. That's not on police. That's on the people who live there." -Mary Mitchell, Chicago Sun-times

I wish others would see her conclusion.

3/24/2015 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok Pfleger JJ now would be a good time to say how we need the police out there doing street stops. That's of course unless you have a crystal ball and you're willing to share it with the CPD so we know exactly where, when and by whom crime is going to occur.

I won't hold my breath.

3/24/2015 09:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Hillbilly Jim said...

12:20 AM,

Holarious comment! Some 50 year old white dude's processing photos showed his chest with a Palmer Street Gaylords tattoo and another that read "100% Honkey."

3/24/2015 09:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is all about headlines and sensationalism . There are few journalists out there, just college graduates who read the news and look for headlines that will shock.No one wants to talk about what is behind their " headlines".

3/24/2015 09:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Finally, ACLU, stop looking at the little guys on the department. How about policies such as the required number of contact cards, tickets, and summons', in order to work VRI.

I


3/24/2015 12:19:00 AM
How else would you measure who is working and who is not? You know yourself that this is a job where a person can do nothing for an entire career and not have any consequences. Maybe even get promoted or land in a great position.

3/24/2015 09:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"While whiling away the time in a jury room at 26th Street just a few weeks ago, one particular hairgel proudly boasted how he wrote 31 contact cards in one day."

Hell, the hairgels (females included) wearing the blue jeans in my district brag about being sent to beats with low contact card numbers to beef up the numbers for those beats AND submitting the contact cards as if they're working the beat where the stop occurred. So on any given day they enter their contact cards using multiple beats to keep the boss happy with the whole contact cards on the beat integrity.

3/24/2015 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just A Citizen Says: You can put all the pie charts up you want and try to break down service calls by hood and speak the truth all you want but it will not matter because NONE of these anti-police liberals will ever admit the truth. That being: statistics don't lie. It would help if they could actually understand statistics but that would require them doing something that would better themselves which is not going to happen. It sure seems like things are getting worse with all this anti-police rhetoric and I am terrified by this. We NEED you people or else it's all over.

3/24/2015 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ACLU doesnt look at the description of the offender Citizens give the 911 dispatcher,When they are a Victim of a Crime,In Chicago its 98% ???''

3/24/2015 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Outside opinion here. Cops seem to be attracted to what is out of place. My wife is black and I'm white so I often end up attracting attention picking up the kids at the mother in law's house in the hood. Why is there a white guy driving down a residential alley in Austin neighborhood? Most likely he is there to buy drugs. Sad but true. My getting stopped isn't anything to do with race, it's good policing. Now brother in law comes to visit the wife and I in white suburbia while dressing like a hood rat, he gets terry stopped going to the 7-11. Again, nothing do do with race, it's good policing. Told the brother in law to ditch the hood gear and wear a button up shirt, slacks, dress shoes when he comes to visit and walk down the sidewalk instead of the alley. What happens? Nobody bothers him because he suddenly doesn't look out of place. He's just a black dude in suburbia.

3/24/2015 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"When I asked if any reasonable person would believe that it would be possible to to encounter 31 individuals "having just committed, in the process of committing or about to commit a crime" to justify a contact card, he just laughed and said "nobody pays attention to this shit anyway".

3/24/2015 01:09:00 AM

Black folks are not the only ones seeing themselves on the s__tty end of the stick sometimes. Seen white officers fill out contacts on quiet, polite, older white COMPLAINANTS -- didn't want to climb three flights to go and talk to the wild-ass person causing the problem. No big thing, just that the building might have been burned down by stupid activities and people were a little concerned, right?

So there is some of the "activity."

3/24/2015 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You stupid bastards were repeatedly warned but yet chose to explore gray areas in order to impress Bossholes that kept the spigot on the Company Kool-Aid tap a-flowin'."

Couldn't have said it better myself. Now let's see what happens when the lawsuits start trickling in. I'll give you a quick hint: any supervisors named party to any suit involving "stop and frisk", aka "Contact Cards" is going to pretend they never met you when push comes to shove. They will swear up-and-down that they never gave you orders or quotas (a.k.a. "indexes" on CPD) regarding contact cards. The supervisors that signed off on those contact cards are going to be the first ones explaining their actions alongside the officers who were dumb enough to go out and put their names on a dozen of those things a night to make the bosses happy. The ones that will feel the least amount of pain are the ones that were barking orders at you guys in rollcall to go get those contact cards. Those particular white shirts always seem protected when the shit hits the fan and this time will be no different. And I agree that this will eventually get ugly. They will definitely make examples out of a handful of people to get their point across. The lawyers pursuing this issue are going to have a field day when they see how easy it will be to discredit 95% of the cards written. Falsifying an official police document will be the least of your worries after the federal suits are all said and done. It's a whole new policing world out there kiddies. Pay attention to what the old-timers tell you - they haven't been around this long not learning lessons along the way.

3/24/2015 10:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I don't murder people. I don't rob, assault, or rape people either. So what fancy excuse do you have for why the majority of the black population are subject to demeaning stop and frisks in this city because a portion (not even half) of the black population commits crime?"

3/24/2015 01:28:00 AM

Police tend to concentrate where trouble is concentrated.

3/24/2015 10:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Gaylords in 025 are out of control, I think I'll go stop some of those guys."

3/24/2015 12:20:00 AM

Sayre Park set? Into second generation by now.

3/24/2015 10:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We live in an age where it's worse to point out the crime than it is to actually commit the crime. Reality is politically incorrect.

3/24/2015 10:43:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

ACLU sucks ASS!

3/24/2015 10:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) Got thrown into Ed Burkes 14th ward from the 23rd ward of Zalewski (who is also for rahm) Burke sent a letter recommending a vote for rahm because Burke as finance committee chairman knows how dire the cities finances are! My thought was wow, if Burke knew this what has the "finance committee" been doing all these years as the finances have been spiraling downward?

The cities bond rating under rahm has dropped at least 5X, which is huge, now CPS bonds have dropped dramatically also, apparently these "leaders" have let this happen! Burke also carries a CPD badge as he was a copper for a very short while during the 1960's does he ever speak up about the pension fund for coppers as he is a retired copper? Nope! yet you want a vote for rahm, why chairman Burke? Why not vote with us and vote Chuy as you plainly can realize we need new leadership at the top correct sir?

3/24/2015 10:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

3/24/2015 01:09:00 AM

It was fun to see a hairgel get a cr# a week ago. He is new, young and dumb. He and his partner are always bringing in arrests. Most are garbage (dopw, pissing, obstructing traffic, etc.) and some good (uuw, theft, etc.). He and his partner arrested a gang banger for something minor. Then three days later mr. gang banger and his homies file bullshit complaints on him. The sgt. serves him with a cr # and mr. hair gel is shocked. That is only the beginning. You better hope and pray that Mr. gang banger and his homies don't keep pressing the complaint all the way to ipra. Now that is how this department actually works.

3/24/2015 08:25:00 AM
Sorry, don't get the humor it this being funny! The copper who by your own admission is/was a working copper, how can you laugh at a brother in blues misfortunes?

3/24/2015 10:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a great case of "statistics don't lie, but liars use statistics." The ACLU wonks didn't drill down - how many of the blacks receiving contact cards were well-dressed, well spoken and behaving like civilized human beings? How many looked and acted like thugs, were wearing colors, flashing gang signs or had baggy pants hanging around their butts and were wearing clothing designed for shoplifting or to conceal weapons? I seriously doubt that the Nigerian wearing a Brooks Brothers suit and walking on Michigan Ave. ever got a contact card, but I would bet a dollar that Tyrell and DuJuan - running out of a south-side CVS and clutching unbagged merchandise - might have.

3/24/2015 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...


Milwaukee cop that killed the guy who was beating cop with his own baton.....FIRED!, for initiating a pat down, you gotta be crazy to do any proactive work any more, or any police work for that matter, Unbelievable!!

3/24/2015 06:55:00 AM

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-milwaukee-police-shooting-20150323-story.html

Read the story, this is the definition of total insanity this copper did what any other copper would have done,an illegal pat down? Please read,what do you as a copper think? My opinion pro-active, nope reactive!

3/24/2015 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IFIYGD has it right. I mean, is it POSSIBLE to write 31 CCs in a single tour? Maybe....MAYBE, but highly not likely. I think it would be hard to even fabricate 31 contact cards in a shift. And if you were to do them legit you would have to see 31 JOs doing something that falls within the scope of a card. And to the guy that thinks he is going to get out in a west side or south side intersection and grab 10 guys shooting dice or drinking or horse playing in the street to do contact cards on all of them???? All I can say is you musta never worked the west side or south side then son. And if you do work a south side or west side district on a night when it's reasonably warm you do not have time between jobs to get anywhere near that amount of contact cards. Quit trying to justify why you're sandbagging people over the pettiest shit. I hope some of you guys get dinged over this shit because it's the only way some people will ever learn a lesson. Why don't you go ask those guys that got hit with punitive damages for locking up drinkers if they're still doing mass amounts of DOPW pinches? Yep no inventory of the liquor you observed them drinking because "defendant poured out what was in the cup upon ros approach" as is bogus is 99% of drop cases. I think you know what I mean so I will not expand on it.

3/24/2015 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From day one when those things were created, I was suspect of their legalityand and never filled one out that was not complete fiction. And those were few and far between. Willie Lump Lump with no I.D. on him him....blah, blah, blah.

Like "Fart" ,I too would try to make the gung ho's see the folly and potential danger of those things.

Stay safe.

3/24/2015 11:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

couple issues first. contact cards are not "stop and frisks". Chicago police does not have a "stop and frisk" policy. GMAC wants everything to be like new york and says that all contact cards are stop and frisks but they are not. I fill out about ten contact cards per day. Do you know how many of them I actually stop and frisk? Maybe one, at most 2 a day. Some days the number of people being frisked is zero. 90 percent or greater of my contact cards are done from just talking to citizens, mostly while on OEMC dispatches. If I dont write paper then I document it on a contact card... PER OUR GENERAL ORDER!!! Our general order tells us to write these cards. they are not all stop and frisks. Lets go FOP how about you get in the game and explain this. 250,000 people did not get searched last year thats a fact. Second, what doesnt help this number are the tac teams, mission teams or rapids who get assigned missions to get activity who are just lazy and make up 10 contact cards a day by making up names, addresses etc. Or just running plates and writing the info on those plates on contact cards and saying they had contact with them. Also, VRI either making up activity or doing the same thing by writing bogus contact cards. And last but not least Gmac at compstat. I have been to a few Compstat meetings and Gmac has a phrase that he uses over and over and over again.. "I wanna see hands on the wall". "contact cards and hands on the wall are they key to stopping the shootings". Commanders are hounded, yelled at and bashed if contact cards are down. Think this. Every week compstat wants contact cards to be up from the same 28 day period from last year. So what this means is that for every year compstat is around they want the numbers to go up up and up more from the same time as the period a year before. so if they were up from 3 years ago and up every year after that then when will it stop? It cant keep going up every week, month and year. you cant just keep going up and up with your contact cards and stops. If you had a busy month last year and a district did 2000 contact cards the supt wants that number surpassed... just to say the number of contact cards is up... but at what costs? How many times can you keep stoping people and do contact cards? at some point the numbers are going to have to come back down and reset. Its pressure from the top, no doubt about it. Im guessing that of those 250,000 contact cards 75,000-125,000 cars are false, made up or those people were never even stopped in reality... which doesnt make it right either... then im guessing another 25,000 people in that number were actually stopped but not frisked at all but were contacted as a result of casual work interaction or from a 911 call. people on this job know how many of those cards are completly made up.. and its a ton of them. just writing up anything so the bosses shut up and leave us alone with no pressure. the top has created this problem.

3/24/2015 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The really big problem, is not the race, it is the narrative on contact cards explaining reason for stops. When you do a contact card make sure you put down a lawfull reason for the stop.

3/24/2015 11:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
It's all the bosses, having everyone just grab people to fill out cards. So everyone can say we are working. Now it back fired.

3/24/2015 12:08:00 AM

But it's dumb asses like you who go out and do it. Is your VRI or whetever that important. Just say no then. Problem solved

3/24/2015 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ACLU throws out a number around 250,000 people stopped and contact carded. Its my guess that they are not being honest about how many are duplicates, triplicates, quadruplicates, and so on and so on. Its my guess that its in the ball park of 85% being the same people over and over again that are being stopped. Draw your own conclusion of why its the same individuals that are stopped over and over again.

3/24/2015 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So in 2011 the ACLU complained that there were not enough police in minority communities:

http://www.aclu-il.org/chicago-police-deployment-scheme-results-in-inequitable-unfair-service-for-minority-neighborhoods-suit-says/

Now when police are disproportionately assigned to minority communities, they complain that the police are doing what they were sent there (at the request of the ACLU) to do. Typical lawyer logic.

3/24/2015 11:57:00 AM  
Anonymous near north crier said...

At turd watch roll call, our W/C tells us which beat cars didn't write contact cards the previous week. And shame on YOU officer for not writing a contact card on any of the four different beats your worked last week!

In the same minty breath he/she/it reminds all, including janitorial staff, to sign up for VRI.

G*d Bless CompStat!

3/24/2015 12:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anybody else in 012 early roll call 2nd watch sick of PO T.F. trying to sell the 10.5 hr day to everyone? Another cool aid drinker. WTF

3/24/2015 12:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Betcha 1100x is sweating!

3/24/2015 01:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Racist society is criminalizing American Blacks. Our Attorney General and DOJ has said as much. They are the experts.

3/24/2015 01:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only police that can be trusted by the people and especially by minorities are federal police. You don't hear of anyone bad mouthing federal police or accusing them of being racist or profiling. They are the good guys.

3/24/2015 01:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some Contact Card are being written when cops see someone they know on a corner moping around and they never talk to him.
Just copy the info from an earlier card.

No confrontation and they get their brownie point Contact Card.

3/24/2015 01:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The pathology of an entitled victim/catered to constituency mindset cynically empowered by white guilt ridden liberal progressives with a corrosive, false narrative multi- culturalist/society wrecking Trotskyite/Alinskite agenda (that dovetails with the unconscionable and break-neck corporatism espoused by Rahm Inc.) that is used as a social cudgel and a financial pry-bar against what is left of the Great American Middle Class.

But the Cops, Firemen/Paramedics, other muni employees and Teachers who make up the surviving remnants of the Great American Middle Class have been cynically targeted for destruction by the 1%-ers and their propaganda flunkies in local and national media.

This is the cover and deflection from THEIR government sanctioned theivery that is fueling the Great Income/Benefit Contraction, Snatch-Back and Redistribution of 2008 to God-Knows-When.

3/24/2015 01:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

American Criminal Liberties Union

3/24/2015 02:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3/24/2015 01:09:00 AM

It was fun to see a hairgel get a cr# a week ago. He is new, young and dumb. He and his partner are always bringing in arrests. Most are garbage (dopw, pissing, obstructing traffic, etc.) and some good (uuw, theft, etc.). He and his partner arrested a gang banger for something minor. Then three days later mr. gang banger and his homies file bullshit complaints on him. The sgt. serves him with a cr # and mr. hair gel is shocked. That is only the beginning. You better hope and pray that mr. gang banger and his homies don't keep pressing the complaint all the way to ipra. Now that is how this department actually works.

3/24/2015 08:25:00 AM

"It was fun to see..."
Really, you're a class A jerk.

3/24/2015 02:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It's all the bosses, having everyone just grab people to fill out cards. So everyone can say we are working. Now it back fired.

3/24/2015 12:08:00 AM
**********************************
Perhaps you could take the time to explain just how this "backfired." Just because an inane study has been published means nothing.

3/24/2015 07:27:00 AM
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0727, if you don't think the big lawsuits will follow this study, you're brain dead.

3/24/2015 02:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
The Chicago Police DO PROFILE.
I've been retired a few years now [God Bless] but I did it too. The profile is "CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR" So no matter who it is, WHAT they are doing is why they get stopped.

3/24/2015 06:31:00 AM

Thanks, John.

3/24/2015 02:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tell aclu to purchase a police radio , listen to it and they will soon learn who calls the police all day and night about crime in their neighborhood .

3/24/2015 03:01:00 PM  
Anonymous I see a turn said...

If you look at most of the comments on this thread you'll see that a lot of guys support doing a reasonable amount of work as the police and that includes doing a few contact cards when it's appropriate. The key is the appropriateness of completing them. It doesn't matter what the ACLU wants or what they believe they have discovered, or what anyone else or what any other anti-police organization touts. The key is to reasonably make contact for investigatory purposes and appropriately document that stop. The few people here talking smack about the guys that are trying to do a little police work, or are at least trying to do the right thing when the situation presents itself are floundering and spouting the same old rhetoric. They keep saying; stop working, or why are you doing work, no one cares about you, or no one will stand behind you, or I'm not doing anything because people might not like me, or might file a complaint on me. Well, here's the thing, guys and girls are tired of doing nothing and are realizing that nothing happens when you reasonably and appropriately do contact cards and anovs and arrest people etc. It's about time that guys realize this and have started calling out the guys who they are tired of listening to with their tired rhetoric of doing nothing. I work because I want to. I do what I'm supposed to do and know how to do it. Doing what is right and doing it the right way isn't hard. The hard thing is that I have to take time out of what I want to do to cover for the guys who are laying down, or those who refuse to do anything. Some of them have personal beefs and believe what they are going to believe, right or wrong, but others are just following along with no purpose at all other that they think they can get paid for doing nothing. But its coming out now that doing nothing is beginning to have a cost and it's usually more aggravating than just doing what they're supposed to. Finally there is a turn where the working policeman is able to work and not be harassed by some other guys who want to do nothing and hate for the guys who work to make them look bad and be seen for what they are doing or not doing. I'm not saying that some bosses aren't assholes and demanding some unreasonable things, but I work and I see other guys just doing what we're supposed to do and it isn't wrong, it doesn't hurt, it occupies a tour of duty and its still some fun. I'm glad to finally see other guys realizing it.

3/24/2015 03:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic- Anyone know if it's true former Ohare Tact BS now ruining the 22nd District tried returning 12 custom tailored Sgt uniforms to VCG but they wouldn't give a refund!! His money! He started screaming and 25 th District cops had to respond. Could someone tell him Daddy Dugan has no juice , he's not getting promoted!

3/24/2015 03:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" the reason " ( D.M. ) in Jeff park dist. Is sweating hoping the ACLU doesn't INVESTIGATE his 1200 cc's without an arrest last yr

3/24/2015 03:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Every contact card should read i was ordered to make this contact card. Let the blame fall on the command staff. In the 19th district the commander stated in an e-mail all police officers need 5 contact cards per period.

3/24/2015 08:05:00 AM

You must be a real joy to ride with. No BALLS. Another 019th district whiner

3/24/2015 04:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many don't contri but take? What is the total of "our monew" that is being given to illegals, link card holders etc? During the depression times were tough, if you wanted and needed government help, you were required to join the WPA which put you to work building this once great country! No work, your not disabled, no check! Why not Bruce rauner do it here? Also monthly tests for all who have government assistance to test for drug use! Your kid is a moron thug gang banger you don't parent bye bye getting "our money"! Government produces nothing, they take the money from us and spread it to people that do nothing but "lie,cheat,steal" come on Bruce "change we can believe in"!

On another note Bruce's detail got into another accident that makes 2 accidents so far since Bruce got in, wonder if the "red light running storm troopers" from rahms detail gave bruces detail driver training? So far doesn't look good for Bruce's detail!

3/24/2015 04:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Answer your calls, take the reports, go home safe everyday to your wife and family and retire someday.........

3/24/2015 07:48:00 AM

I don't want to go home to my wife, she's a pain the balls.

3/24/2015 04:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) the plane crashed over 150 killed and obamas state department quickly issues this statement:

At a White House press conference Tuesday afternoon alongside Afghan President Ashraf Ghani, President Obama expressed condolences to the families of the victims.

“Our thoughts and prayers are with our friends in Europe, especially the people of Germany and Spain following a terrible airplane crash in France," he said. "It’s particularly heartbreaking because it apparently includes the loss of so many children, some of them infants.”

Obama said the State Department was working to confirm how many Americans may have been on the plane.

"This is a mourning period that we need to overcome because it's a tragedy that has occurred on our land," Hollande said.

U.S. officials quickly ruled out terrorism as a cause of the crash.

Quickly ruled out terrorism, but people on the ground said they heard loud booms as the plane disinagrated and fell! Why not wait until investigators on scene rule it out?

3/24/2015 04:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1st. Did they expect a different outcome ? B. Why do everyone of their "studies" only tell the half truths? 4th. Does that mean I shouldn't stop any black person I see for now on?

3/24/2015 05:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Major Blockrounder said...


By the Murder Offender Graphic it appears that the C.P.D. is NOT STOPPING ENOUGH Black People.

However, C.P.D. should feel free to send all that extra manpower they put in Black and Hispanic Districts which results in claims of Racist Police, and send them to White Districts and stop the goofs that are walking around here.

We welcome it.

Of course during the fair reporting by the media, not one reporter brought up the fact that the people that commit the most serious crimes by percentage are Black.

God forbid we mess up the story with actual facts.

If you are on the job, and you have at least half a brain, don't make out these silly cards.



3/24/2015 05:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I cant believe that with whats going on in the news today, meaning how we are demonized and under the microscope that a supervisor would actually tell officers in roll call that they needed to write a certain amount of contact cards a week and once that number was met that they will not write any more. What is more amazing is that some officers will comply and do this in order to keep their supervisors happy. At the end of the day it is the officer that will be holding the bag because it is them whom detained/seized a person.

3/24/2015 05:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mailman killed on way to work.
Drivers shot at on expressways
shootings at every corner of southside

Can someone tell me how to do this job without stopping and making some contact with people?
After 26 years, bad guys just do not walk up to me and give up.

But ACLU says we are wrong.
Now Mayors office has a die in

Cannot get out of this crap fast enough.

3/24/2015 06:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well played SCC.I'll mark you for a 4 on this par 5.

3/24/2015 07:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's all Communist (Democrat) rhetoric and political correctness, just more political nonsense and bullshit.

3/24/2015 07:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let the Merit-Hacks take up the slack. They're the ones who owe allegiance to the Regime, and got the promotion that you (Joe & Josie No-Clout) got.

3/24/2015 07:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Police are out there day in and day out trying to keep these blacks from killing each other. So they get stopped and frisked more than whites. Well, that's what it takes to teach them.

Why don't they get it's wrong to settle scores with bullets to the head all the time? Don't see whites killing off their own.

Stops put them on notice. Zero tolerance. Frisks give them a little extra something so they look over their shoulder while there on the streets. So police have to be on front line and in force.

3/24/2015 07:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Work the west side on midnights. On any given night, weather reasonable, you will see scores of people out and about walking the streets. Or sitting on cars drinking and smoking or hanging out in front of a house that they don't live at. Or hanging out in front of a liquor store which there are plenty to choose from. This goes on EVERY DAY. Drive around my neighborhood during these same hours, you will not see nor hear a single person. No one walking the streets, blaring loud music from their cars while drinking booze from a plastic cup, shooting dice on the sidewalk, slinging dope or just standing around because they have nothing better to do. Maybe the puss bags from the ACLU need to get out a little more and re-introduce themselves to reality. Yeah right.

* Afterall, Work is out of the question for these Slugheads......

3/24/2015 07:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can look at this as grades. The grades are to high in some neighbor HOODS.

So the police needs to backs off those areas.

Patrol the other areas more until the statistics are evened out.

Might take a while.

Don't patrol the Black areas end of story!

When Reverend Riff Raff complains just say "Look at the stats, Blacks are disproportionally stopped.
according to the ACLU.

Stomp your feet to the right to the left and Praise the ACLU! Do I hear an ACL UUU!

3/24/2015 07:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The big bad Poleece are bothering the poor criminals. Boo Who.

I don't recall where in the Terry decision by the Supreme Court, that police officers must make an arrest.

As for poorly written narratives on these contact cards, too much college, not enough common sense.

3/24/2015 07:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I always wondered what would happen if an ACLU affiliated attorney sued a P.O. with nothing to loose.

3/24/2015 08:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IF a boss told you to do that and YOU did it, shame on you. Bosses can't make you do illegal stops.

Did the ACLU, if they are using Contact card data, even mention that every time a card is done for a traffic violation,thats one less ticket wrote, unless of course you are the dogg-ass that double dips. Would they like it better if we just stop giving people breaks and just write EVERYONE we stop??

It's all the bosses, having everyone just grab people to fill out cards. So everyone can say we are working. Now it back fired

3/24/2015 08:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...





ACLU:

American
Criminal
Lobbyists
Union

3/24/2015 08:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I don't murder people. I don't rob, assault, or rape people either. So what fancy excuse do you have for why the majority of the black population are subject to demeaning stop and frisks in this city because a portion (not even half) of the black population commits crime?

3/24/2015 01:28:00 AM

I do not believe even the ACLU said that the majority of Blacks in Chicago were subjected to this (legal) "stop and frisk" policy. If you did your research, you would find that most of these stops are on the same people (mostly because they have or are likely to commit a crime)! I would hazard a guess that most middle class working Blacks are NOT in fact stopped for investigation. And thank you for not murdering or raping people. I appreciate that Francis!

3/24/2015 08:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
3/24/2015 01:09:00 AM

It was fun to see a hairgel get a cr# a week ago. He is new, young and dumb. He and his partner are always bringing in arrests. Most are garbage (dopw, pissing, obstructing traffic, etc.) and some good (uuw, theft, etc.). He and his partner arrested a gang banger for something minor. Then three days later mr. gang banger and his homies file bullshit complaints on him. The sgt. serves him with a cr # and mr. hair gel is shocked. That is only the beginning. You better hope and pray that mr. gang banger and his homies don't keep pressing the complaint all the way to ipra. Now that is how this department actually works.

3/24/2015 08:25:00 AM

Um... obviously they already "pushed" the complaint to IPRA or there would not be a number! Get a pair of balls and do your job. Afraid of a CL#? Turn the lights off before you have sex?

3/24/2015 08:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the idiot saying that you can't contact card 31 people in a tour, get off your ass and work.
I'm sure the kid didn't mean he actually made 31 different stops, ever cleared a corner of 10 self admitted and documented gang members who are in violation of the Gang Narcotic HotSpots? Of course you didn't.

Just because you bring in "a Parker a day" shouldn't mean others can't do more.

3/24/2015 08:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of stopping people: who is the stroke who was working 1834, 3rd watch, writing ANOVS at Lasalle and Hubbard to working class tourists waiting for the CTA bus? Disgusting. Probably calls himself the "real police" too!

3/24/2015 08:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Listen voters , 911 Tax Tripled for every telephone , cell and landline , water bill doubled , cable tax up , still a Sanctuary city , unable to provide for life long residents but plenty of money for Illegals , law breakers . Citizens shot , sexually assaulted by offenders that should have been behind bars , not on parole or a electronic bracelet .
Did you vote for Quinn , don't remember Rahm stumping for him . No matter what your race is , Vote , don't allow less than 20% of voters to screw you with a wealthy 1% backed candidate .

3/24/2015 08:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A mailman was gunned down today , what is wrong with society ?

3/24/2015 08:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well done SCC.

3/24/2015 09:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey look who is getting out of prison....Kennedy: Jesse Jackson Jr. leaving prison for halfway house

http://a.msn.com/r/2/AA9XgPR?a=1&m=EN-US

3/24/2015 09:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I tried doing a contact card on a 2 year old but the computer wouldn't let me. You have to be at least 5 years old to put it in the computer.

3/24/2015 09:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear 5:51 futuresupervisor001, thank you so much for examples of cc's. Now whenever you make sgt use your phone call to hide yourself somewhere under a rock.

3/24/2015 09:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While whiling away the time in a jury room at 26th Street just a few weeks ago, one particular hairgel proudly boasted how he wrote 31 contact cards in one day. When I asked if any reasonable person would believe that it would be possible to to encounter 31 individuals "having just committed, in the process of committing or about to commit a crime" to justify a contact card, he just laughed and said "nobody pays attention to this shit anyway".

I agree with staying out of the gray area, but yes it is very possible to encounter 31 probable cause stops in a tour. I am not saying every single tour, but on a busy weekend in a district with many gangs in them, you can easlily stop a corner full of gang bangers with probable cause and do contact cards on all of them. So, I do agree with many hairgels go overboard, but I disagree with you stating that it can not ever happen. Stop being such a disgruntled copper. Also, I have 20 years on the job, so you can't call me a hairgel. Just don't worry and be happy. Let McCarthy and Rahm worry about it, we are all just trying to do our job.

3/24/2015 10:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ACLU is just a bunch of bottom feeding lawyers looking for a payout. They actually can give a dam about how many black people are stopped. This is all smoke and mirrors. If the ACLU actually cared about black people they would make an attempt to educate that part of the population on how to conduct themselves during an encounter with the police. ACLU is just like jackson or Sharpton, just a bunch of race baiters and money grabbers via blackmail. So, they can publish all the bs surveys they have conducted and they will always get the same results becuase that is how they make their money and keep the country divided. They should stop the pandering, we are all Americans so lets act honorable and noble and stop the division of races. Can't we all just get along.

3/24/2015 10:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So we should ANOV people it works out better?

Another of Garys great ideas he stole from New Yawk.

All the numbers are High regarding black and browns! Any city any state. Just how it is and suspension rates in H.S. same thing yet the public school idea under RAHM stops suspending anyone.
And what does the numbers say when you do this ? No numbers and problem fixed.
Great plan.

So look to some genius plan to have a set standard for contact cards.
Kinda like weed tickets suck ass ideas...

3/24/2015 10:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't worry Gary and Rahm will hand out boat loads of tax-payer taxes to make everyone feel better.

You forgot how Rahm fought the supreme court on concealed carry and LOST! More $$$

How about those police building which were closed and still are in operations. Then Rahm comes up with the idea of putting XO's in the Area detectives units canceling out any savings.

.....If and Only If Rhama Wins there'll be and ENEMIES LIST

3/24/2015 10:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Easy fix. Eliminate racial data from contact cards.

3/24/2015 10:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ACLU are pure communists. Divide and conquer.

3/24/2015 11:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh no! We're doomed! The end is near! Woe to us!

3/24/2015 11:14:00 PM  
Anonymous FedUp said...

Yep - the only people who loiter in 019 24/7 are the thugs robbing and beating the residents of a once safe neighborhood. They clearly do not live in the neighborhood and are not patronizing the businesses.They like to hang around the Belmont and Addison stops as well to make a quick escape.

As a resident of 019 and this city in general, I wish this city could enforce loitering shake ups. The neighborhood is a ghost town, with the exception of Cubs games, until the weekends come around. Then it becomes really obvious who shouldn't be lurking around.

I've actually trolled some of these obvious thugs and played stupid and asked directions for bars literally around the corner and they had no clue. Hmmmm. That just screams loitering and waiting around to rob and attack people.

The crime demographic stat numbers don't lie.The political correctness needs to stop.

3/25/2015 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone know if the ACLU ever represented a police officer who had his civil rights violated?

I would think the residency requirement would be a good case to to start with.

Nope, never happen.

I think the ACLU is racist.

3/25/2015 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:28am- You obviously are NOT a cop because if you were youd know that MOST minorities are NOT stopped and questioned and/or patted down. We for the most part are NOT stopping the 25yr old woman walking down the street with her kids nor are we stopping the 35yr old man in a business suit. We ARE stopping however the ones who are loitering on the corner or on the steps of the abandoned house with their pants hanging off of their ass, hats cocked to the side looking around suspiciously. We are also stopping the car full of thugs looking the same part. Face reality, ALOT of the 25 and under group in the "hood" look AND ACT the part of criminal. I can tell you from EXPERIENCE that about 95% of the people I have stopped have had at least 5 arrests on their background. You cant have it both ways where you say you want more police protection but get mad when the police do their job and actually stop people.
Signed,
An African American Officer

3/25/2015 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was fun to see a hairgel get a cr# a week ago. He is new, young and dumb. He and his partner are always bringing in arrests. Most are garbage (dopw, pissing, obstructing traffic, etc.) and some good (uuw, theft, etc.). He and his partner arrested a gang banger for something minor. Then three days later mr. gang banger and his homies file bullshit complaints on him. The sgt. serves him with a cr # and mr. hair gel is shocked. That is only the beginning. You better hope and pray that mr. gang banger and his homies don't keep pressing the complaint all the way to ipra. Now that is how this department actually works.

It was fun to see another copper get in trouble? You are everything that is wrong with this department right now.

3/25/2015 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Every contact card should read i was ordered to make this contact card. Let the blame fall on the command staff. In the 19th district the commander stated in an e-mail all police officers need 5 contact cards per period.

3/24/2015 08:05:00 AM

You must be a real joy to ride with. No BALLS. Another 019th district whiner

3/24/2015 04:20:00 PM

What's the matter mistuh white-shirt tuff guy?

Are you scared that some enterprising copper is going to cook you in a jackpot of your own making by naming YOU in a disclaimer on some contact cards?

Quityerbitchin' and own up to browbeating and threatening your subordinates with retaliatory silly shit for not writing enough contact cards...

As a matter of fact.
From here on out.
Every blueshirt SHOULD take an extra 30 seconds and name in a disclaimer, the supervisory jackass who threatened them with denied time, fucked-with start times and other silly shit that accompanies the push for contact cards.

These same supervisors will laugh up their sleeves and run away when Policemen start getting danked on by the Feds, courtesy of the aclu...

Conflicting/Contradictory rules of engagement by design.

Department hierarchy saying one thing...
The Feds, courtesy of the aclu are doing another...

Maybe Policemen will decide that fucking around with these accursed contact cards are hazardous to wallets and careers.

If contact cards are such a bonafide vital tool and resource, the supervisory echelon would be doing them too.

Put every ass in danger or leave the blue suits alone and let them hunt down and hurt the bad people and folks who need hunting and hurting.

3/25/2015 01:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shut up idiot


You can look at this as grades. The grades are to high in some neighbor HOODS.

So the police needs to backs off those areas.

Patrol the other areas more until the statistics are evened out.

Might take a while.

Don't patrol the Black areas end of story!

When Reverend Riff Raff complains just say "Look at the stats, Blacks are disproportionally stopped.
according to the ACLU.

Stomp your feet to the right to the left and Praise the ACLU! Do I hear an ACL UUU!

3/25/2015 02:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What exactly do you think is going to happen? Unless you are stopping people without cause, etc, NOTHING is going to happen to you. Stop Fear mongering.

"Can't tell you how many times the hairgels were warned that this was going to come back and bite them in their asses. "


Other than the dopes in 001 and 018 that caused the first set of Lawsuits for doing cards on homeless people over and over again. Show me one instance where someone who did a lawful stop and documented it was punished or party to a lawsuit . It just doesn't happen. Calm down and go back to your netflix bud.

3/25/2015 02:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know, we get bitched at for contacting too many minorities. We get bitched at for stopping too many minorities. We get bitched at for locking up too many minorities. How about someone do this study...just find out how many 911 calls come through a year wherein the supposed offender is a minority. Hell, we can even only count the calls where the caller/victim/complainant is also a minority.. it should still add up to 80%, give or take.

3/25/2015 02:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perhaps you could take the time to explain just how this "backfired." Just because an inane study has been published means nothing.

3/24/2015 07:27:00 AM
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0727, if you don't think the big lawsuits will follow this study, you're brain dead.
3/24/2015 02:42:00 PM
Okay genius, just exactly would be the bais of those suits.

3/25/2015 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well just let the animals in the ghetto do what they want. Let them burn it down, shoot the shit out each other and all that nonsense. Then if there are any cars available just slide on over write a report and go back to doing nothing and remember no contact cards or any police action unless you see the Evil White Devil who has created all the problems.....

3/25/2015 08:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When the black leaders started this nonsense about profiling, the common sense answer would have been; how can you call an officer in an all black district a profiler. Now the politicians and black leads are using this mantra to push their agenda's unabated. Part of the blame was the FOP when this was occurring.

3/25/2015 09:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



What's the matter mistuh white-shirt tuff guy?

Are you scared that some enterprising copper is going to cook you in a jackpot of your own making by naming YOU in a disclaimer on some contact cards?

Quityerbitchin' and own up to browbeating and threatening your subordinates with retaliatory silly shit for not writing enough contact cards...

As a matter of fact.
From here on out.
Every blueshirt SHOULD take an extra 30 seconds and name in a disclaimer, the supervisory jackass who threatened them with denied time, fucked-with start times and other silly shit that accompanies the push for contact cards.

These same supervisors will laugh up their sleeves and run away when Policemen start getting danked on by the Feds, courtesy of the aclu...

Conflicting/Contradictory rules of engagement by design.

Department hierarchy saying one thing...
The Feds, courtesy of the aclu are doing another...

Maybe Policemen will decide that fucking around with these accursed contact cards are hazardous to wallets and careers.

If contact cards are such a bonafide vital tool and resource, the supervisory echelon would be doing them too.

Put every ass in danger or leave the blue suits alone and let them hunt down and hurt the bad people and folks who need hunting and hurting.

3/25/2015 01:46:00 AM

Not a tough guy at all. Just a guy who knows how to do the job the right way. I don't think I have ever heard a boss encourage me or even order me to do something completely illegal. Writing contact cards are not illegal if they are done correctly. Go back to recruit training and learn something. If you don't want to do anything, then don't. But stop discouraging officers who know what they are doing from doing what they are paid to do. Its frustrating to listen to officers like you. Big talk but very little action. I hope you never make rank because it is obvious you know very little about the job. (not that this is a requirement to get promoted)

3/25/2015 11:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

afraid to write a field contact card , better become an usher at the senior citizen home
hairgel afraid of their own shadow

3/25/2015 01:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I fart in your general direction...I love all of your comments so this is not a dig. Someone can contact card 31 people in a tour> Ex: Using street instead of sidewalk, riding bicycle without headlight, littering (when throwing cig butt to pavement), and on and on. The problem is that those situations are now all potentially explosive, and society will not back you. Al la Fergeson.. probable cause stop for walking in the street. The body cameras make the situation 100 times more dangerous in Chicago because it's forcing action that would not have been taken for various reasons.


3/24/2015 06:57:00 AM

Young Burbs Cop: Help out a kid on the job because I don't get it. You listed local ordinance violations but I don't see the connection with them and a contact card. I get they are "crimes" but I don't get how to use contact cards constitutionally in this instance since these "crimes" can be handled and closed with citations/ANOVs. I can see if the guy that dropped a cigarette butt looked familiar based on blah, blah, blah or matched this or that description...or even behavior. I do not see a link between reasonable suspicion and me throwing a McDonald's wrapper out the window unless while addressing the wrapper something else comes up...help a young guy out somebody

3/25/2015 02:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
You know, we get bitched at for contacting too many minorities. We get bitched at for stopping too many minorities. We get bitched at for locking up too many minorities. How about someone do this study...just find out how many 911 calls come through a year wherein the supposed offender is a minority. Hell, we can even only count the calls where the caller/victim/complainant is also a minority.. it should still add up to 80%, give or take.

3/25/2015 02:50:00 AM

Actually Garr Bear said on the news that the stops on blacks are consistent with the calls received describing black suspects. He does a good job of "informing" the public about how wrong they are when he wants to. He said ACLU was using flawed data which is partially true. It was also funny because so does he. Don't know how flawed the data is but the analysis is wayyyyy off.

3/25/2015 02:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Perhaps you could take the time to explain just how this "backfired." Just because an inane study has been published means nothing.

3/24/2015 07:27:00 AM
----

0727, if you don't think the big lawsuits will follow this study, you're brain dead.
3/24/2015 02:42:00 PM
Okay genius, just exactly would be the bais of those suits.


3/25/2015 07:35:00 AM

Yeah I don't know anything about lawsuits...but this is a stalemate that could have potential with the right players. This is a great time to throw the mayor and supt under the bus. Period...but you have to admit the bogus use of contact cards as much as you don't want to. The ACLU is no friend but it can be a nice pawn to use. Ignore the percentages of stops which Garry already addressed and focus on the total number of cards which is still majority black. If the department stopped threatening officers with discipline and loss of off days etc. in exchange for frivolous contact cards inevitably less blacks would be contact carded. In short the mayor and supt are the reason that blacks are being heavily contact carded....works both ways.

3/25/2015 02:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


When are the spineless bosses gonna speak up

3/25/2015 04:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FACTS AREN'T RACIST

3/25/2015 08:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys bitch and worry a lot. Use the oh-so-uncommon common sense, 1st and 16th, back each other up, and have a fuckin blast doing the best job out there any of us blue collar bastards could ask for. 'You see, for me? The action -is- the juice.'

3/25/2015 10:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

... If contact cards are such a bonafide vital tool and resource, the supervisory echelon would be doing them too.

Put every ass in danger or leave the blue suits alone and let them hunt down and hurt the bad people and folks who need hunting and hurting.

3/25/2015 01:46:00 AM
It is a tool and I do fill them out, but when I do a narrative it explains why I had reason to make contact with the subject of the card. The best part of your post is the "leave the blue suits(?) alone to hunt down and hurt bad people". I had a little tear in my eye it was so funny. Thank you.

3/26/2015 12:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Young burbs cop - probable cause allows you to arrest a person. An ANOV is for an arrestable offense. You have the discretion to write a contact card and cut them loose.

3/26/2015 09:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree that this quota contact card issue backfired. We were addressed at roll call by our commander and XO at roll call seem shit has hit the fan. Elaborated on the contact cards and how we should be doing proper ones and not just grabbing anyone. I have seen officers doing this time and time again just so they don't loose their car or for the VRI quota. Now I laugh and say I told you so. Funny I don't hear the bosses telling us we need more of them anymore and the silly charts on the wall in the station showing the percentage that have been written and who is not living up to the standard have all seemed to disappear.

3/26/2015 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not a tough guy at all. Just a guy who knows how to do the job the right way. I don't think I have ever heard a boss encourage me or even order me to do something completely illegal. Writing contact cards are not illegal if they are done correctly. Go back to recruit training and learn something. If you don't want to do anything, then don't. But stop discouraging officers who know what they are doing from doing what they are paid to do. Its frustrating to listen to officers like you. Big talk but very little action. I hope you never make rank because it is obvious you know very little about the job. (not that this is a requirement to get promoted)

3/25/2015 11:27:00 AM

You're too cute and too clever,
Mistuh Management Member...

You took an issue that has the potential to negatively affect or cause harm to thousands of Policemen and made it all about YOU and how lucky YOU were/are to not have some bad/ignorant/misguided management member tagging you as "it" for your turn in the barrel over the ongoing foolishness over enough "activity."

"I don't THINK I have ever HEARD a boss encourage me or even order me to do something COMPLETELY illegal..."

...And the sky is what color in your world?

You parse words.
("A little pregnant...")
Badly...
And you're full of shit.

Your context is intentionally slippery.
You don't even have the sack to stand by
what you post so you played a little semantic game
to leave yourself some wiggle room.

FWIW...
We have NEVER tried to discourage Policemen from doing what they know how to do.

Incompitent/Corrupt/Compromised management by virtue of clout, cowardice, pandering and politics have done MORE to discourage the fine men and women of this department than a li'l ol' anonymous poster ever could.

And overall?
We can say with confidence that we have forgotten more about Policing and being a good Policeman that you could EVER hope to know.

You can stick your "I hope you never make rank" where the sun doesn't shine, Mistuh Big-Talk.

You probably run your mouth while you're fighting.
Shit-Talkers tend to be first to get their jaw shattered.

Troll...

3/26/2015 09:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I agree that this quota contact card issue backfired. We were addressed at roll call by our commander and XO at roll call seem shit has hit the fan. Elaborated on the contact cards and how we should be doing proper ones and not just grabbing anyone. I have seen officers doing this time and time again just so they don't loose their car or for the VRI quota. Now I laugh and say I told you so. Funny I don't hear the bosses telling us we need more of them anymore and the silly charts on the wall in the station showing the percentage that have been written and who is not living up to the standard have all seemed to disappear.

3/26/2015 12:13:00 PM

The ugly handwriting on the wall is for those smart enough to see it.

We want to see the nitwits in the exempt echelon being targeted by the Feds and aclu before anybody in the trenches get hurt.

There was an old military saying about how good it is for soldiers to see a few generals laying on the battlefield.

Danger is best when absolutely NOBODY is safe.
When nobody is safe, cooler heads and common sense stand a chance of prevailing.

3/27/2015 12:34:00 AM  

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