Gee, We Wonder Why
Somebody in the media finally noticed what the surveys and moving companies have been telling everyone for a few years now:
- In a state with a massive budget deficit, it’s disturbing news: For the first time since the late-1980s, the population of Illinois is shrinking.
CBS 2 [...] takes a look at what’s luring people away.
Weather, work and money. Those are three of the biggest reasons people are leaving.
According to the Illinois Policy Institute’s Michael Lucci, some 95,000 people moved to other states last year.
“We actually had more people leave Illinois than were born in Illinois,” he says.
Crappy job market, shitty political situation, taxes out the ass, government interference up the ass, crushing debt. There's five quick reasons right there.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
49 Comments:
Its so sad. This is the most beautiful city in the world. All my family has been here for generations. Now I have to seriously think about getting out because of corrupt politicians. This really sucks.
I had hoped you'd have a thread on the FOP not endorsing in the mayoral race so I could post this there. I'm not going to post it in the Ferguson thread as that's too serious an issue.
I just want to throw out some questions about FOP endorsements as I'm not a cop.
How the hell did the FOP endorse an aldermanic candidate who aligns herself with Copwatch and various other police haters AND flip flops on pension issues?
Here's the question and her answer on the IVI/IPO questionnaire she filled out.
What measures will you vote for to reform the city pension plan and ensure its solvency?
A pension is a promise. The courts have been clear that pension benefits offered to existing workers cannot be diminished. All options need to be on the table to ensure we dedicate proper funding to the mismanaged City pension funds and protect vulnerable retirees on a fixed income. I have discussed potential revenue-raising options above. I also believe we need help from the State to fund teacher pensions.
Then on the Sun Times questionnaire she said the opposite.
Do you support restructuring the pension systems, inevitably reducing benefits, to put the funds on sound financial footing?
Yes or No: A qualified yes.
Click the links if you choose to.
I support her opponent so don't trust me alone....VERIFY.
She also did a similar flip flop on casino gambling.
If you want more commentary on the support from the cop haters check out the Uptown Update Facebook page.
I can't figure out why the hell FOP endorsed her. Some board member have a family member working at her law firm?
Did she fill out a questionnaire and give different answers? Because I have to believe she didn't give the same pension answer she gave the Sun Times to the FOP. If I worked for decades and didn't pay into social security I sure as hell would want my pension to be paid as promised. Then I'm selfish that way.
And speaking of the media...
Ain't it funny how the Fibune is brow-beating Garcia to hurry up and outline his financial plan? (so Rahm and his merry band of thieves and syncopants can cherry pick)
Hmmm...
Why aren't they waving the shovel full of live coals under
the metal folding chair the incumbent is sitting in?
Make it hot for everybody...
Not just the challenger.
You whores.
Watch the bond ratings as they continue to drop. Watch them like investors do and then make the appropriate move. When it's time to go short then GO SHORT ! And don't forget to kiss The Land Of Lincoln goodbye in your rear-view mirror !
Chicago - Cook Co. would be a wonderful place, except it is an expensive cesspool. I reach retirement real soon and have a place in Arkansas already picked out.
I wonder if these STUPID liberal politicians will ever figure out WHY people would leave? First off, the weather in Illinois is shit. Second, the taxes are spiking and third, the underclass of criminals make living here dangerous.
Such a deal! The criminals can mug and beat you, the politicians seize your money, it's for The Children! You get frozen and snowed on in winter, in the spring, the damn place floods and the 6 week long summer is hot and humid. These idiots act like this is San Diego or Honolulu.
These stupid assholes in Cook County are killing the state. Keep voting like a progressive and wonder where the hell the taxpayers went.
I am leaving soon, Shitcago chokes you to death with all kinds of crap, taxes, gas, parking, speed cameras, red-light tickets, congestion, and my favorite, STUPID PEOPLE. Just the dumb ass look and actions of dumb fucking zombies running around is amazing.
Illinois is going broke. Imagine Detroit or Stockton CA on a grander scale. Don't believe me? How are the Chicago and State Bond Ratings doing the last 8 years?
How does a State go broke? Like the saying goes, Slowly, then All at Once.
For us, when we finally got to retire four years ago, moving out of Chicago, IL was Daley & taxes ~ the grass truly is greener over the state line! Get out of Illinois while you can!!
And they still tax tax tax .....
Weather and savage commutes are the two biggest things chasing people out. Snow, ice, non-stop road construction, and traffic cameras everywhere have made the metro area a pain in the ass. Old people aren't sticking around anymore if they can afford to go.
There is also a trend of culturally conservative, middle-aged people taking there families out of here because they don't want to raise them in a state that is hostile to their values. This brings us back to the first point. If the grand kids aren't here anymore, no reason for gramps to stay when he can be playing shuffle board in FL.
Young college grads are still coming here from surrounding states because the jobs for them are still in Chicago.
Illinois is ran by Communist leaders. Who just keep making taxes to control you.
I can't wait to vote with my feet, just 9 more years and I can join the rest of the wise people. :)
Why did it take 20 years to shut down "Cease Fire" ? This benevolent group of young people have been taking my tax $$ for 2 decades to reduce the shootings, killings and criminal activities in poor communities. Ummmmm it took 20 YEARS to figure out this group was ineffective? Wasting my hard earned $$$ is why I'll be leaving as soon as I retire. Sunny AZ I'll be with you in 10 short years!
I asked 12 Police Officers I work with do they plan on stay in Chicago when they retire all said NO. Only two said they would stay and live in Illinois.. The two stated they wanted to move away from Cook County.
This is so sad..... my Grandparents on both sides, Father, and Mother were all born in Chicago and stayed here until their death. However I plan on moving too... far away to another state. where one can live with less restrictions.
I can't imagine anyone who wasn't born here thinking "hmmm, illinois sounds like a good place. I think I'll move there."
Illinois coddles illegals and rif raff more than any other state. People are sick of money being wasted on those people.
Crappy schools.
Hoe about cutting out that section 8 rent voucher system.
Weather is number one on my list. On the other hand I've been to enough low tax states like Florida, Ga., S.C., and they would suck to live in in their own rundown way. If I had the resources I'd likely pick a good conservative state that doesn't lean liberal or liberTARDian. Utah?
Think about it...Where in il are there any good lakes, or nice areas to kick back? Starved Rock is nice,except when the gd's are there,Rend Lake ok,Galena and surrounding area ok but most every where else is either a river or dusty flat lands.Fuck this state.
Lets see a 100,000 a year tax bill and how long do you think any business can survive in Chiraq?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/elmwood-park/news/ct-elm-bowl-closing-tl-0319-20150313-story.html
Did you notice the people moving interviewed are all Amish? Bet the only people happy are the link card holders and of course the illegals flooding this state, using up our health care system, schools, link system at an alarming rate! Illinois is broke they say,and with the way the elected have lied, cheated,stole it's no wonder why! Stop the benefits to able bodied people, nothing to illegals watch how fast the pensions could be funded, watch businesses and people that actually pay taxes flock to this pathetic state! Oh lastly be sure to vote,and vote chug rahm has to go!
Weather, work & money the reasons people are leaving? Nah, it's the crushing taxes & the endless debt. That's why I'm gone as soon as I can be.
And that is 95,000 less people paying taxes that would help with pension funds
It will never come back. Lost too much industry, too many tradesmen. No middle class. The smart thing to do would be to start demolishing abandoned or unused properties. Reduce infrastructure.
OLD RETIRED GUY HERE AGAIN, !!!!!!
You know I hear and read about all the people leaving Illinois, and Chicago all the time. I am sure its true. I mean you can't argue with the stats, right ? I just wonder why the expressways, are always filled to the max. In and out of the City, Day and Night. Last Night I took a walk down Milwaukee Ave. All The Restaurants filled, as were the saloons. Have to wait in line to get into any up scale restaurant in the city. They are currently rehabing a house on my block, and are going to market it in the 4 hundred thousand range. My question is WHAT AM I MISSING ?
I don'r see people leaving. In fact I see the northwest side of Chicago much more crowded than it was years ago.
Its so sad. This is the most beautiful city in the world. All my family has been here for generations. Now I have to seriously think about getting out because of corrupt politicians. This really sucks.
3/14/2015 12:20:00 AM
Most beautiful? You need to travel more.
Crookago-Crook County Democrat [Communist] Political Corruption has a stranglehold on the entire State.
Did you notice how Sneed let slip that the OBAMA'S want to live in NEW YORK after the White House.
Weather--> As Bad or worse than Chicago, occasionally get a hurricane.
Shitty Politics--> As Bad or worse than Chicago, home of DeBalsio and the Clintons. Right up their alley.
Crappy Job Market--> Not for them, plenty of six figure speaking engagements and a chance for BHO to write his next books, "How I Got My Nobel Prize by Doing Nothing" or "The Ultimate Folly of Affirmative Action" and the sure blockbuster, "How I Ruined America".
Just please take the plans for the Obama Library with you.
Out of Control Black Violence towards Whites is a big part of why working taxpayers are fleeing Chicagoland and Illinois. Unreported by the Chicken-shit sycophants of Chicagoland News Media. CPD also sweeping Black on White crime under the rug.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It will never come back. Lost too much industry, too many tradesmen. No middle class. The smart thing to do would be to start demolishing abandoned or unused properties. Reduce infrastructure.
3/14/2015 10:12:00 AM
Yes! Tear down existing housing stock! Get it off the tax rolls! Make some more vast wastelands, dust blowing through the streets! Do it!
Don't forget that we spend 20-25% of all Illinois government dollars on retirees. Your pensions are part of the problem.
This is bad news for those of us who want to collect a pension from Illinois.
I don'r see people leaving. In fact I see the northwest side of Chicago much more crowded than it was years ago.
3/14/2015 10:23:00 AM
No so, lots of Chicagoans permanently moving to the nw burbs. Look how much St. Adalbert's has grown.
More and more we are already the #2 state in high taxes, but then again that is because we give away all of the taxpayers hard earned money to the do nothing programs! Then rahm "red light what red light", gets in office and the bond rating tanks numerous times, when is enough enough? When good people leave,and the bottom feeders stay! Really hoping and praying for "change we can believe in" go Chuy if in 4 years he is no good we can vote him out, if rahm gets in may God help us all! what his pal obama has done to destroy this country rahm is fast at work destroying this city,and of course putting billions of tax payers money in his "private piggy bank" TIF (tax increment financing) accounts! We know he has billions secure in there, release the cash rahm stop lying about how high real estate taxes will go, rein in the free programs there ya go rahm that's how it is done!
Maybe the other states have more VRI.
My youngest is in his junior year of high school, as soon as he graduates I'm gone. God I hate this city, county, and state.
Once you cut entitlements, drasticly, then come talk to me about my pension.
The pols don't worry about pensions, because they have all stolen do much that their nest eggs are secure for years. Kickbacks, business for their law firms or cunsulting companies, donations to their campaging funds which they can keep if they pay the tax. And on and on.
I beez livin large on my penshun in sunny Florida. They even have ahappy hour down here.
To 1:51 am. Arkansas is it next to those five toothless guys on their chicken farm
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Don't forget that we spend 20-25% of all Illinois government dollars on retirees. Your pensions are part of the problem.
3/14/2015 01:29:00 PM
OK asshole...
Wanna tell us how much corporate welfare
and bribe money to the "gibs me dat"
non-contributors are costing us?
>Crickets<
Pensions of people who earned them are mere nickels to the dollar wasted in theft, fraud and political fuckery.
Run fast.
Run far.
Hide.
Now fuck yourself...
Tell the Illinois Combine to stop stealing and to stop
their blame and shame bullshit of trying to cheat working people out of what they earned.
Moving to Colorado in 6 years. Getting out of this state as soon as I can. Wish it was sooner. I only stay for the kids and once they are out of school, so long Illinois. Colorado is a little liberal for me also but not as bad as ill annoy. Florida is just a little too hot for me.
Weather and savage commutes are the two biggest things chasing people out.
You are part correct.Weather and Savages........
Anonymous said...
To 1:51 am. Arkansas is it next to those five toothless guys on their chicken farm
3/14/2015 10:19:00 PM
I'll take that over 5 gd's on the corner in this shit hole.
Anonymous said...
I don'r see people leaving. In fact I see the northwest side of Chicago much more crowded than it was years ago.
3/14/2015 10:23:00 AM
No so, lots of Chicagoans permanently moving to the nw burbs. Look how much St. Adalbert's has grown.
3/14/2015 02:10:00 PM
How much of that growth is Section 8 people from the West and South Sides.
>>>Anonymous said...
Don't forget that we spend 20-25% of all Illinois government dollars on retirees. Your pensions are part of the problem.
3/14/2015 01:29:00 PM<<<
Look troll stay off our blog if you don't know what you are talking about. I paid 9% of my salary for 36 years for my pension, I lived here and I paid taxes here.
Politicians stole from our pension funds by shady deal and loans.
A politician serves one term and gets a pension. Ask what pension Richie Daley is getting and what will Rahm Emanuel get?
You probably even think elections in this state are fair and honest.
OLD RETIRED GUY HERE AGAIN, !!!!!!
You know I hear and read about all the people leaving Illinois, and Chicago all the time. I am sure its true. I mean you can't argue with the stats, right ? I just wonder why the expressways, are always filled to the max. In and out of the City, Day and Night. Last Night I took a walk down Milwaukee Ave. All The Restaurants filled, as were the saloons. Have to wait in line to get into any up scale restaurant in the city. They are currently rehabing a house on my block, and are going to market it in the 4 hundred thousand range. My question is WHAT AM I MISSING ?
I don'r see people leaving. In fact I see the northwest side of Chicago much more crowded than it was years ago
What you are missing is that people are leaving Illinois, not Chicago, at least at the same rate. You are right, try to get a reservation at a top restaurant, a ticket for a sporting event or new play. And finally you would think traffic congestion would be reduced with all the people leaving.
TAXES!
Taxes paid by the working stiffs and which are not paid in the same proportion by the super-rich.
The same super-rich, such as William Daley and the other Daleys, who supported federal tax legislation and federal policies to ship American jobs to foreign countries.
I don'r see people leaving. In fact I see the northwest side of Chicago much more crowded than it was years ago.
3/14/2015 10:23:00 AM
No so, lots of Chicagoans permanently moving to the nw burbs. Look how much St. Adalbert's has grown.
3/14/2015 02:10:00 PM
How much of that growth is Section 8 people from the West and South Sides.
3/15/2015 03:18:00 AM
Souf and west side section 8-ballers favor Burr Oak and Mount Dope cemeteries. St. Adalbert's isn't urban enough.
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