VRI Check Goes "BOING!"
Someone got some explaining to do:
- Speaking of VRI.....
Minutes ago, I talked to an old timer in 1600 hour Michigan Ave VRI roll call. He works in 016 and said when he went to deposit his 16 Mar regular payroll check in the drive-thru of a Bank of America location, IT BOUNCED. The teller told him it was Insufficient Funds, and that he needed to come inside to see a manager. The manager confirmed that there was insufficient funds to deposit the check. He immediately notified FOP, and - hard to believe here - they told him it "wasn't their problem" and that he should contact Finance. A call to Finance went unanswered.
Anyone else have this problem with a hard check?
Labels: money questions
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
97 Comments:
uh oh Hope this isnt true
An employee not being paid for time worked for his employer is not the union's problem?
I doubt that was a VRI check being paid on the 16th. VRI isn't paid out until the 22nd of every month, and any officer who works VRI knows that. I am guessing the check was for sell back days. I also doubt the validity of a city check bouncing. Maybe the guy was trying to withdraw the funds immediately after deposit and the check hadn't cleared yet? Nevertheless, it wasn't a VRI check.
I have to ask.....
What is the FLOP for.....
Why could not one of the "Field Reps" say.... "We'll call finance, and get back to you".....
As a retiree, I'd like to chuckle and say you get what you pay for......
But, folks, I have to say you pay for much better service.....
The quality of the office staff is very poor.....
Good Luck
I call BS on this one.
Doesn't sound right. Either the teller made a mistake, doesn't know what he/she is doing, or the old timer is blowing smoke. Almost any time that you deposit a hard check, the funds are not immediately available (sometimes a portion of the funds will be immediately available). Hence, no way the check would have bounced right there and then at that moment -it takes a couple/few days for the check to clear or bounce. Personally, I received a hard check for tuition reimbursement last week, made the deposit in the ATM and it cleared in a few days.
BS on this VRI checks will be put on the 22nd of the month.
This is incorrect. HE doesn't have enough funds in his account to cash that check. It's HIS problem.
I call bullshit, vri checks come on the 22nd, not the 16th, plus my check cashed just fine.
I knew Chicago was having financial problems, but this is ridiculous!
When the company stops paying me and starts issuing rubber checks, it is time to find a new company to work for.
Is it the same for government employees?
FOP is f****** horrible!!! I ran out of fingers counting how many times those cocky jag offs answer the phone with that "What do you want?" inflection in the tone of their voice. What do we have left? It's all dwindling down to ZERO.
There's rumor now floating around that since the BFD and PDAY sell back days were included with the 16 March regular salary paycheck (instead of in April when it usually arrives) it some how threw a wrench in the works.
Those with direct deposit seem to be unaffected by this snafu. However, that's little consolation to those who were unable to deposit paychecks into their accounts and now have to wait until a fix is implemented. If they're like most coppers that live check-to-check, this little bump in the road is really gonna throw them for a loop if they have bills due.
Exactly right. A problem for finance. Lots of reasons the check did not clear, finance is the place to find out the reason and solve the problem.
No because it's impossible. Checks don't bounce on site at any bank. They give you the money or deposit and after 72 hours the check will either clear or bounce. If it bounces you will then be charged a fee. Never ever have they or ever will bounce while you are still at the bank. Nice try, by the way my checks were all good. Another troll... Scc, the comment said payroll check, not vri. VRI checks come out 22nd of each month.
Just a glimpse of the future .
Through an oversite, funds may have not been shifted from one account to another.
" He immediately notified FOP, and - hard to believe here - they told him it "wasn't their problem" and that he should contact Finance."
I'm not a LEO and so don't know how these things work. It was my impression that unions go to bat for the people to whom they pay dues?
- The Friendly Grizzly
Wise families have at least one paycheck worth of $$ saved up in order to get through a brief hard time. With what CPD is paid no one should live paycheck to paycheck.
One word for this story.... Troll!
I get a hard check and no problem. He may want to look into a new bank.
I call BS on this one.
This sounds like a certain degree of bullshit from a confused old man.
My check which was in my account on Friday night cashed just fine, sorry to hear about that officer though
Get direct deposit OLD TIMER!!!! It's 2015😆😆😆
No probs. here. probably BS or just a small computer glitch.
Off Topic:
I just received my ILLINOIS tax refund.
Instead of direct deposit they mailed me a "hard check" which I deposited at the credit union today.
Did anyone have their Illinois tax refund direct deposited this year or are they all "hard checks" for some reason?
This City AND State are fucked.
Complete nonsense
Isn't the salary schedule part of the contract book? Hmmm, it always was it seems to me. I wonder if the father of punk kid Dean Angelo Jr got his check all right.
Someone needs to tell this old timer that this is 2015. Get direct deposit already!
My question is why are you still getting a hard payroll check? It's 2015, throw away the 8 tracks, embrace technology and direct deposit.
a hard check...?
Negative. Operator error.
There ya have it. BOYCOTT 9.5
Two words-direct deposit.
They don't fund their pension obligations, why should they fund anything else? It's not like the cops are connected or anything. Fuck 'em.
Rahm
How embarrassing, maybe Mc drunky spend the money on his honey moon.
That's bullshit, the city has enough money for a check like that. Plus the bank wouldn't know that fast about insufficient funds unless it came from that bank.
This story smells like BS.
Yeah kid not our problem.....we are way too busy counting chads here while Deano screams " I need more Rham votes so that I can secure that chancellor job ". So take your bounced check and pay your water bill with it or your city sticker just don't use it to pay your union dues ......gotta go kid Deano is having convulsions cause Chewy is winning in the poll....
Dyla Hata
Don't work VRI problem solved
I call BS. First, VRI checks come out the 22nd. Second, it takes a couple of days for the check to process. I've never had anyone tell me a check was bad while depositing.
It wasn't FOP's problem? Horseshit.
and it isn't tbe FOP's problem?
WTH!?!?!?!?
Deano, are you that afraid of Rahm ?
Grow a set
Yes. If you still get a hard check, you're an idiot.
Seems fishy, banks don't operate like that. If you want to cash a check you need matching funds in your account. If you're depositing it it takes a day or two to clear. They can't determine if the check bounced while you're in line. This guy probably wanted to cash it and HE didn't have the funds to cover
The Old timer must be a fool. My paycheck was direct-deposited, with all funds available, on the 14 th.
Did I mention that I'm an "old timer" too.
I never understood the argument of, a hard check is better because what if the computers are fucked up. Well if the computers are f'ed up they won't be taking any type of deposits.
Lastly, i'm at the end of my carrer, but you young poleeeces need to look into decertification of the FLOP. I voted for the failed decertification attempt back in the early 90's. Change can be good.
Speaking of BOING, how much is rahm wasting on the NFL draft being here? Another corporate payout.
Direct Deposit works fine
Good story.....
I am not sure what happen but most banks will not cash ANY check, unless you have enough funds in your account to cover the check that you are cashing. You can deposit that check you just can not take it all in cash.
Whats the name of the clown at FOP?
They should be fired on the spot.
Not only is a bounced check aginst out contract, its can also be a crime!
WHY would anyone still get a hard check?? Direct Deposit was in there - of all days - Friday the 13th!! Are you that old school that you still hide the "extra" checks from your wife??
I thought you had to be a little intelligent to be on this job .like a shithead this fool dosen't have enough in his account to cover the newly deposited check so they do not give the amount ofthe check until it clears. Some places .because they want police/fire business ,will cash it knowing that it will not bounce. The city has never bounced a check that I am aware of.
Man , this job ought to quit hireing lowlife hillbillies!
Can none of you read?
No one said the check was a vri check; it said they were talking at vri roll call.
At my bank, City checks are considered cash and all money is available immediately.
Years ago, your city paycheck was cashed at many different locations. Out of roll call Police would go to a currency exchange or a bank in their district and receive immediate cash. City checks were always considered "good". This changed before direct deposit started and suddenly you had to have the matching funds in an account, prior to withdrawal. Funds should be available immediately and not just posted to your account.
Has anyone connected the dots yet? Our FOP president was planted there by our good friend Rahm. Think back and everything that Dean was saying resembles what Rahm has done or is stating to do. Their campaigns sound similar. Plus, whatever happened to no broken promises. Where are the field reps at the roll calls? They suppose to earn their stipend or lose it.... Interesting, broken as the day they fumbled it all. How about the great idea of using the FOP app as a resource... Broken, unable to resolve. Pay check... Broken, don't know what to do.
Lastly, an offender who dies due to being involved in a Police shooting is not a victim. They are an offender as they have always been. The Police don't owe them anything. Offender + a threat of death + Police action = threat eliminated and as a result offender died due to their wounds. Offender... Not a victim.
I have had a bank stamp a check NSF when I presented it. Perhaps I wasnt the first that day. In my case they saved me the fee of having the check some back and charging me for it. If the guy presenting was not the first the bank had that day .....oh well. Fuck Rahm
Not sure how it works in IL but in NC BOA requires you to have sufficient funds in YOUR account before they will "cash" a deposited check.
The ONLY way they could determine that there weren't sufficient in the payor's account is if it were ALSO a BOA account.
Formerly NC now in FL
Why have a hard check? Maybe so he can cash it without the old lady knowing?
Off Topic:
I just received my ILLINOIS tax refund.
Instead of direct deposit they mailed me a "hard check" which I deposited at the credit union today.
Did anyone have their Illinois tax refund direct deposited this year or are they all "hard checks" for some reason?
No. My illinois refund was direct deposit - same as Federal. But it took IL. About a month to process it. Federal took less than 2 weeks.
The purpose of a hard check is to hide it from the wife!
Anonymous said...
Whats the name of the clown at FOP?
They should be fired on the spot.
Not only is a bounced check aginst out contract, its can also be a crime!
Grow the fuck up A bounced check is a crime? Yea but when was the last time anyone was prosecuted for a bounced check. They give you time to make it good and deposit the funds. You guys sound like little kids lately whining about every little thing. Get direct deposit.
Union did the right thing. They cant get involved in regulating every po's life. Supv looked at me wrong, I cant get the watch I want, I have to change a tire Call the union. If I have a problem with the bank I take care of it with the bank, I dont call the union.
Anonymous said...
" He immediately notified FOP, and - hard to believe here - they told him it "wasn't their problem" and that he should contact Finance."
I'm not a LEO and so don't know how these things work. It was my impression that unions go to bat for the people to whom they pay dues?
- The Friendly Grizzly
Great advice. If something is wrong with your check, call finance, if you have a problem with health benefits call BC/BS, not the union. Union should be called after you cannot correct the problem.
Pack the Moving Truck said...
Off Topic:
I just received my ILLINOIS tax refund.
Instead of direct deposit they mailed me a "hard check" which I deposited at the credit union today.
Did anyone have their Illinois tax refund direct deposited this year or are they all "hard checks" for some reason?
This City AND State are fucked.
3/17/2015 02:13:00 AM
I got my IL tax refund through direct deposit a couple weeks ago. Filed my own taxes through turbotax and chose direct deposit. If you had someone do your taxes for you, they might have chosen the hard check for you.
Bs. Sell back day have been paid out on march 16 not in april. Its been that way for the last 22 yrs.get ur facts straight . This is an example of living beyond ur needs. stay safe boys and girls.
Since Rahm's been in office there's been numerous "glitches" with our money. So often in fact that there's little doubt that they happen accidentally on purpose.
Rahm despises us so I could see Rahm pulling the strings to make these things happen. Sort of like Rahms way of poking the bear in the cage.
Anybody but Rahm..... go Chuy go!
Unregulated business in City of Chicago
Its Business as Usual:
After 3:00 am shots fired! and 2 persons were shot! at the Hyatt Regency McCormick Place 2233 S Martin Luther King Dr, Chicago, IL 60616 victims from a Trolley "Party Bus": two hooded gunmen offenders fled the scene!
Bucktown Ald. Scott Waguespack (32nd) is complaining about lack of administrative review by the Mayor's Liquor license commission apparatus: three people were shot: shots fired and 2 persons shot and killed; one man, age 34, suffered multiple gunshot wounds to the body, and a 41-year-old man was shot in the chest. Both were pronounced dead at the scene! and another person was shot: A 26-year-old man shot in the left wrist @ the Dolphin 2200 N Ashland Ave, Chicago, IL 60614
VOTE FOR JESUS GARCIA!
Simply not true!!
Some of those guys at FOP have the attitude of "I work sooooooo many hours for you guys and I don't even get over time " duhhhhhh you get paid how much $$$,$$$.00(to be exact) and you signed up for that when you decided to run!?!?!?!
Oh shit, are they going to try and request OT for anything over a 40hr week DOHHH
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The Old timer must be a fool. My paycheck was direct-deposited, with all funds available, on the 14 th.
Did I mention that I'm an "old timer" too.
I never understood the argument of, a hard check is better because what if the computers are fucked up. Well if the computers are f'ed up they won't be taking any type of deposits.
Lastly, i'm at the end of my carrer, but you young poleeeces need to look into decertification of the FLOP. I voted for the failed decertification attempt back in the early 90's. Change can be good.
3/17/2015 08:40:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
WHY would anyone still get a hard check?? Direct Deposit was in there - of all days - Friday the 13th!! Are you that old school that you still hide the "extra" checks from your wife??
3/17/2015 11:10:00 AM
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So, because YOU 'can't understand' why someone would choose to handle their money the way they do, he's a fool?
It's HIS money, not yours. How he chooses to handle it, receive it, deal with it, save it or spend it is none of your business.
Lets decertify this union. They are a bunch of out of touch coppers that are not capable of dealing with the current tasks at hand. Deano is a joke. Just the sight of him ticks me off. We need a group like the teamsters. At least our pension wouldnt be underfunded and they have the nards to fight for us. Thanks for your time scc.
Anonymous said...
I thought you had to be a little intelligent to be on this job .like a shithead this fool dosen't have enough in his account to cover the newly deposited check so they do not give the amount ofthe check until it clears. Some places .because they want police/fire business ,will cash it knowing that it will not bounce. The city has never bounced a check that I am aware of.
Man , this job ought to quit hireing lowlife hillbillies!
3/17/2015 11:23:00 AM
hahahaha thanks for the laugh
You guys elected a disabled President and a guy with the nickname "HALF-DAY"
Idiots
Too bad for him, mine went througbh
Bank of America would not be able to know that, that quick. Chicago banks with chase !
sounds like complete bullshit! theres more here than meets the eye.
Just sounds like another dinosaur who's technologically retarted
Just think if Rham wins
Will he be on the witch hunt?????
California public workers may be at risk of losing promised pensions
Judge says cities in bankruptcy are free to cut pension obligations in the same way they can cut other debts
ttp://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-pension-controversy-20150317-story.html#page=1
This city checks being bad is total bull shit. Paper or direct deposit any bank in the city will cash for copper' even without an account for zip !!!
The FOP being called I believe. They are J.O' to the hilt. Dr. Dean is a total stroke and hoe he got a PhD is short of amazing. It had to be from one of those bogus universities on TV. He was a bogus dick in B and A and did zero and his injury is to fucking funny. When out of sight of the public he could go hiking up to Mt. Everest.
Con man all the way. The one' who voted him in deserve him. He and Shields come from the same mold.
De-certify this worthless org and start now. Wayne H, retired from 603- B n A had the FOP down to a science when they booted him out of FOP.
Wayne retired and said fuck it.
The G needs to look at the cooked up books from the FOP from the ast 15 years. Millions went out the door and they told all you questioned them to pound sand.
Rahm will give the phony PhD shit later on. Dean better start banking all the petty cash on hand in the office.
Us retired guys never stayed in the FOP for their b.s cra[ date book.
"Anonymous said...
Can none of you read?
No one said the check was a vri check; it said they were talking at vri roll call.
At my bank, City checks are considered cash and all money is available immediately.
3/17/2015 11:43:00 AM"
Can't you read nimrod? While the text of the topic discusses payroll check and VRI roll call, the HEADING of the topic CLEARLY states VRI check goes BOING!
>>>Anonymous said...
Speaking of BOING, how much is rahm wasting on the NFL draft being here? Another corporate payout.
3/17/2015 08:56:00 AM>>>
Speaking of BOOOOING!!!
Saw our U.S. President on TV tonight, spiffy suit, all smiles, hair and make-up just perfect.
Writing his basketball picks on this big board for a TV sports show.
ISIS, Iran nukes, not a care in the world. At least he knows how to do something.
Anonymous said...
Just sounds like another dinosaur who's technologically retarted
3/17/2015 11:32:00 PM
Learn to spell before you criticize.
All you goofs making fun of this guy are not aware of the circumstances and yet you offer your vitriolic opinions of this man's intelligence and or character like so many hyenas gossiping ar the watering hole. Stfu if you don't know what happened, sometimes mistakes are made by the city and finance and you need to keep on top of things or you blindly assume. All I hear on this blog is resentment about being second guessed from others and yet you do it all to each other. And for the person who posted about the "dinosaur" who still gets hard checks, at least learn how to spell retarded because you sound like one.
Anonymous said...
Off Topic:
I just received my ILLINOIS tax refund.
Instead of direct deposit they mailed me a "hard check" which I deposited at the credit union today.
Did anyone have their Illinois tax refund direct deposited this year or are they all "hard checks" for some reason?
No. My illinois refund was direct deposit - same as Federal. But it took IL. About a month to process it. Federal took less than 2 weeks.
3/17/2015 02:06:00 PM
Downstate newspapers reported llinois residents' state income tax refunds will be delayed this year as new security measures to battle identity theft and fraud are implemented. Processing by the state began on Feb 12.
"Illinois Department of Revenue spokesman Terry Horstman said the agency is increasing security measures to prevent identity thieves from claiming fraudulent income tax refunds. The new measures are being implemented simultaneously with the Internal Revenue Service and state revenue departments across the country."
Just remember, a new world...if you are a taxpayer you pay and the welfare babies and illegals get everything....there will be no refunds in the future...
Off Topic:
I just received my ILLINOIS tax refund.
Instead of direct deposit they mailed me a "hard check" which I deposited at the credit union today.
Did anyone have their Illinois tax refund direct deposited this year or are they all "hard checks" for some reason?
This City AND State are fucked.
No your tax guy is fucked I received mine direct deposit
If you actually read and pay attention to what you read this states the officer took his REGULAR DUTY check on the 16 and it bounced. He probably was mistaken and did not have enough funds in his own check or the bank messed something up.
I just received my ILLINOIS tax refund.
Instead of direct deposit they mailed me a "hard check" which I deposited at the credit union today.
Did anyone have their Illinois tax refund direct deposited this year or are they all "hard checks" for some reason?
This City AND State are fucked.
No your tax guy is fucked I received mine direct depos
You have a bad tax guy. All he had to do was mark the direct deposit area and put in your bank routing number and bank account number.
Wise families have at least one paycheck worth of $$ saved up in order to get through a brief hard time. With what CPD is paid no one should live paycheck to paycheck.
>>>>Must be nice to not have 3 FACTS accounts! Oh, you don't know what those are? Mine are due the 16th of each month. Every month is a brief hard time, LOL
Checks don't bounce like that. Duhhh. deposit checks go back to the payee account first before they would know of no funds. takes a could days.
If all you guys who worked VRI put as much time into voting and getting involved with your union you would be a force to be reckoned with. Instead you are a bunch of what's in it for me right now guys. Big picture is ask not what your union can do for you but what you can do to make your union work for you. Working VRI reduces the viability of your pension fund and is just like union busting. How disgusting when you have 10,000 active members and only 65 eligible members that have 5 meetings in the previous year and are able to run for elected office. You guys are your own worst enemies. You should be at your union meeting instead of on this blog telling everyone what is wrong with your union. Your lack of involvement is what is wrong with you, and according to you it’s what is wrong with your union. Only you can fix that. Posting on the blog does not count for getting involved. Wake up dumb F**ks.
Just remember this all you fans of direct deposit:
The city has the right (you signed it) to make a grab OUT of your account if they believe they made a mistake in the amount they deposited. The devil is in the fine print. This city is the LAST entity I am giving permission to take $$$ OUT of my account. And no, I don't have 12 accounts to hide the extras from the old lady.
FOP is f****** horrible!!! I ran out of fingers counting how many times those cocky jag offs answer the phone with that "What do you want?" inflection in the tone of their voice. What do we have left? It's all dwindling down to ZERO.
I agree called a coupe of times for things like IOD and Missing W2's and the people in finance giving me the run around and I got the same attitude and same " I'm a big shot don't bother me " bullshit can't we draw like a vote of no confidence on these fucking guys or something
I'm a retired officer for almost 18 years. Our checks are deposited. What he said was not true. But I'll tell you what was true and happened to me about 2 years.I was depositing my part time job check at TCF Bank and of course removing some money back when I found out that my pension money didn't arrived. It should of arrived 5 days earlier to my account. I blamed TCF and they denied. I called FOP and they told me to call the pension people which I did and they stated they had no record of me. I began screaming at them, after 15 years I didn't exist. It took them several hours to straighten out my pension. They FedEx me a paper check a couple days later. I did't understand why they didn't deposit my money directly to my bank account. Well I'm now getting my money on time and I also know I exist. I can now see my check accounts on my computer for me to see. The pension people did screw something, one year my 1099 form was for 11 months and the following year my 1099 form was for 13 months. Unbelievable. I thought maybe they were punishing me for being the writer of the 025 Gallows. PLEASE BE CAREFUL EVERYONE.
The dumb ass author should've known thus wasn't true... Oops thus means you!
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