Thursday, April 30, 2015

Homicide Rate About to Climb

  • As construction gets underway on a stretch of Oak Park Avenue on Chicago's Northwest Side, city workers may uncover thousands of bodies buried in the area.

    Many forgotten souls were buried in the Dunning neighborhood in the late 19th and early 20th century, according to cemetery researcher Barry Fleig.

    Fleig, who is the former cemetery chairman for the Chicago Genealogical Society, said beginning in 1890 up to 10,000 bodies were buried in the area. The land once housed the Cook County Almshouse, a county insane asylum, a tuberculosis hospital and a potter's field that eventually became Cook County Cemetery. There, the city buried the poor, crime victims who could not be identified, those who died at hospitals and some criminals, often without official documentation.
We expect vigorous, exhaustive investigations and prosecutions. Society insists that justice, no matter how long delayed, must be fulfilled. Maybe the clearance rate could be boosted, too?

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40 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hoffa's body might turn up.

4/30/2015 12:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow. I know they stopped condo construction and built the memorial park over there by Read, but there are more?

I think you can get the measure of a society not only by the way it treats the living, but in the way it honors its dead.

Sad.

4/30/2015 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Five will get you ten...
IF they find one skeletal remains of a canine, Tommy Toupee will be there, parting the sea of people with a chainsaw to hold his press conference...

He did it for Burr Ridge!!

4/30/2015 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No problem - I forsee up to 10,000 "Death Investigations". Problem solved.

Although, 10,000 bodies is nothing. If you count the reigns of Pharaohs Daley I and Daley II, there were over 25,000 homicides during those years.

4/30/2015 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Homicide rate to skyrocket???

Nah. Obviously, you were not a homicide dick.

Will sink without a ripple.
How?

Since all the bodies are buried together, it will be considered ONE incident. A #5084. Hospitalization/Non-Criminal Death Investigation.

Closed/Non-criminal.

Ok, now where are we going for lunch?

4/30/2015 12:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sheriff Tommy Dart will be all over that dig. He might even give up digging for more John Gacy victims.

4/30/2015 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, at least they buried people. County doesn't even want to bother anymore. Let them rot in any old extra room available at the City College until someone finds out and raises hell.

4/30/2015 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Probably many bodies are from the great post World War I Spanish Flu Pandemic. The industrial slaughter of World War I claimed an estimated 16 million lives, mostly military and confined to Eurasia.

The influenza epidemic that swept the world in 1918 killed an estimated 50 million people. One fifth of the world's population was attacked by this deadly virus. Within months, it had killed more people than any other illness in recorded history including the medieval Black Plague.

One of the sadist things I recall ever seeing is wondering the cemetery where my grandparents are buried. There are many grave stone there with enameled photo embedded in them from that era. Many are of children, infants in cradles, sets of twins, very sad bit of history. R.I.P.

4/30/2015 01:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Think of the families who have been waiting well over a 100 years as to the fate of their loved one. Closure at last. The City can keep a host of DNA tracers busy.

4/30/2015 01:03:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

Tom Dart will be there with his windbreaker and hard hat looking for Gacy victims.

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

4/30/2015 06:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They may have to change the addresses on their polling lists next election!

4/30/2015 06:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No problem, High Sheriff Dart will handle the investigation. He's good at those things.

4/30/2015 07:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about 1210 terminating a chase where a copper on viewed shots fired which turned out to be a 0110 in abla. God where do we find these useless supervisors with no spine? What a pure embarrassment

4/30/2015 07:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not to worry, High Sheriff Dart will handle the investigation. He's good at those things.

4/30/2015 07:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, I got it now. Been over that stretch of Oak Park a million times. Chicago-Read on the west side of street, the "old salt pile" and abandoned facilities on the other side. Look at an older map, the whole area was Chicago State Hospital, etc.

Possibly "Senior Lifestyle Corporation" who put in that housing there have been kicking, want the area spruced up. This is a HUGE outfit -- and they employ some frightening people.

4/30/2015 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous SurvivalAndProsperity.com said...

I've heard a number of stories about Dunning and it's mental institution over the years. The one I'll never forget was shared with me by a former suburban fire chief. Some years back there was a meeting at the mental health center where a number of fire officers were invited to attend. As one chief arrived and exited his vehicle, an individual came up to him and asked if he'd like his car washed while he was there. The officer welcomed the offer. While in the meeting, this chief made sure to thank his hosts for the free car wash. They informed him they didn't have anyone washing attendees' cars. The chief hurried out to find his vehicle had indeed been washed- from the inside out. The windows were all rolled up- save for a crack where a hose with gushing water had been inserted for the free "car wash." I can't remember if his vehicle was his personal one or owned by the department. Regardless, I was informed the interior was submerged in water. "Funny, the guy seemed normal enough."

4/30/2015 09:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

19 paul

4/30/2015 09:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As you enter the Read Dunning Memorial Park, you can read the history. Pay close attention to the 5th paragraph describing the other section of the cemetery...


Cook County Cemetery at Dunning - 1854

An Institutional Cemetery was established on this site in 1854 on land that was a part of the 320 acre Cook County Poor Farm. It soon became the Potter's Field for the forgotten and poor of Chicago and Cook County.

Buried here are as many as 38,000 people including children, inmates of the poor house and insane asylum, 117 victims of the Chicago Fire of 1871, and Civil War Veterans.

Often referred to as the County Ground, Cook County Farm Cemetery, Cemetery at Jefferson, or Poor House Cemetery, it was renamed Chicago State Hospital Cemetery in 1912.

Official records list burials through 1922, although they probably occurred for a much longer period, possibly into the 1930s.

This marks the site of the main section of the historic burial ground. Another section of the cemetery is located west of the intersection of Irving Park Road and Oak Park Avenue.

As you walk through this three acre memorial park, you will come across markers dedicated to those who died at various periods in Cook County's history. Peace be upon them all.


I used to go metal detecting in my younger days and some time after they found the bodies, I saw some earth moving equipment tearing up the ground where the construction is going on today. Seeing the ground being turned over, I assumed it would be a great opportunity to metal detect that land, so I asked for and received permission at the front desk of the building. I attracted the attention of some of the equipment operators and we got to chatting. I asked them why they were tearing up that patch of land, and they said they were putting in a soccer field for the kids. Some weeks later, all activity stopped and they were gone. The vegetation grew back and all was forgotten for all these years. Now I have to wonder if they weren't removing or relocating the bones. If you pass by there today, you will notice that as they dig, they are making convenient berms which block the view from the street. Unless someone is out there looking for bones every day, my guess is you won't be hearing about any.

4/30/2015 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about 1210 terminating a chase where a copper on viewed shots fired which turned out to be a 0110 in abla. God where do we find these useless supervisors with no spine? What a pure embarrassment

Let's see you mean the one terminated that ended up on the packed expressway during the day. And the one where they had the license plate number of the car.
The one where the victim is a gang banger. Sounds like supervisor made the right call.

4/30/2015 10:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's ok, they are going to have interviews for supervisors to go to the D yet the people who are going there have already been told who they are without the interviews even being announced. 3 Lt's to D, SS,JE,MK. 2 to OCD, JB, VD.

You heard it here first!

4/30/2015 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about 1210 terminating a chase where a copper on viewed shots fired which turned out to be a 0110 in abla. God where do we find these useless supervisors with no spine? What a pure embarrassment

4/30/2015 07:48:00 AM

Slow down sunny. The times they done be changed. Send a flash, make notifications, do the report and four hours later go to lunch. Rinse and repeat.

4/30/2015 10:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about 1210 terminating a chase where a copper on viewed shots fired which turned out to be a 0110 in abla. God where do we find these useless supervisors with no spine? What a pure embarrassment

4/30/2015 07:48:00 AM

I'm sure the supervisor thought, "I have a wife, kids and a mortgage that I'm unwilling to risk." If you want to blame someone, blame the city.

4/30/2015 12:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

West of Oak Park used to be a farm where the residents of the state hospital used to work. It was therapeutic and helped fed the community there.

4/30/2015 01:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How does the department do 20% merit for the first ET test when never even opening up the merit selection process to everyone? Kinda BS considering 1/2 the people who took the test failed it right off the bat. Must be 8 really special people to get merit for the 1st class in a secret selection. Typical Chicago...

4/30/2015 02:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO: How about 1210 terminating a chase where a copper on viewed shots fired which turned out to be a 0110 in abla. God where do we find these useless supervisors with no spine? What a pure embarrassment

It's called the balancing test and that sergeant probably made a decision to keep you out of federal court in light of the atmosphere today against law enforcement..... Deal with it

4/30/2015 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So more Democratic voters are discovered, not surprised here.

4/30/2015 03:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good! More Democratic voters.
How many were wearing "Re-elect Rahm"
buttons?

4/30/2015 03:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, can I get a couple of them for Halloween?

4/30/2015 04:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard some of the dead were victims of the Flu Epidemic of l918. Haz-Mat suits are in order if anyone wants to be at the dig. I pray they don't let that Jennie out of the bottle and kill us all.

4/30/2015 04:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No problem, High Sheriff Dart will handle the investigation. He's good at those things.

Quiet Tom! This is too big of an opportunity for you to step on it again!

4/30/2015 05:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sound like a job for Tom 'Sherlock' Dart.

He loves digging up old bones for the media.

4/30/2015 07:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those condos north of Irving on Narragansett came across a ton of stiffs when they were building them back in the 80's. That was back when Tommy Dart was just a freshman in high school, dreaming of someday owning a Mount Carmel fleece.

4/30/2015 08:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Sharpton Calls for DOJ to ‘Take Over Policing,’ ‘Going to Have to Fight States’ Rights’

Rev. Al Sharpton called for the Justice Department to “take over policing in this country” and stated “we’re going to have to fight states’ rights” in comments recorded by the Baltimore Sun on Thursday.

Sharpton said, “we need the Justice Department to step in and take over policing in this country. In the 20th century, they had to fight states’ rights in — to get the right to vote. We’re going to have to fight states’ rights in terms of closing down police cases.”

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/04/30/sharpton-calls-for-doj-to-take-over-policing-going-to-have-to-fight-states-rights/

4/30/2015 11:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dart will be all over this!!!

5/01/2015 07:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If you pass by there today, you will notice that as they dig, they are making convenient berms which block the view from the street."

4/30/2015 09:57:00 AM

Time to borrow the kid's camera drone...

"Inquiring minds want to know..."

5/01/2015 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Those condos north of Irving on [west side of] Narragansett came across a ton of stiffs when they were building them back in the 80's."

4/30/2015 08:19:00 PM

Yeah, I can see that now.

The whole former State property is bordered by Forest Preserve, Montrose, Irving Park, and Narragansett. Oak Park goes through about the middle.

5/01/2015 10:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Barry Fleig's exhaustively-researched web site is here --

http://cookcountycemetery.com/Default.aspx

5/01/2015 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why this "surprise?" Well...

"1934 – 1935

"When Oak Park avenue (6800 West) was put through, bodies in the "New Grounds" were reported to having been found. Survey for Oak Park Avenue (6800 west) between Irving Park and Montrose taken July 26, 1934. The road is shown as 100 feet wide. The resulting plat of survey is filed as document #11544080 and is dated January 11, 1935. It can be found in plat book #312, pages 24 and 25. Despite the fact that the road travels over the cemetery, it was approved by the Board of Cook County Commissioners at their meeting on December 12, 1934. The Superintendent of Highways approved the highway plat for Oak Park Avenue on August 29, 1934."

http://cookcountycemetery.com/intrusions.htm

5/01/2015 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A veterans home is being built on the southwestern corner of oak park and forest preserve. There are indeed up to 38000 bodies buried in that area..even near the area where the new autozone is being built on the old car wash property on irving. When the condos west of the old car wash was being built in 89, workers found skeletons dressed in civil war attire, complete with badges and what have you.

5/02/2015 10:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So if they replant them, can they still vote?

5/02/2015 11:33:00 AM  

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