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- Chicago police Superintendent Garry McCarthy said Monday he was concerned that the criminal charges against an off-duty detective involved in a fatal shooting in 2012 might cause other officers to hesitate before opening fire when they feel their lives are in danger.
"It provides a safety hazard," McCarthy told reporters after a promotion ceremony at Navy Pier for about 100 new detectives and several captains and commanders. "And my concern was how is this going to affect policing in general in the Chicago Police Department because every single officer who's out there now might be in a position where they hesitate, and as a result, they could lose their lives."
McCarthy said he didn't think Detective Dante Servin should have been criminally charged, but he wouldn't explain why, saying he wanted to wait until the Independent Police Review Authority, the city agency that probes police-involved shootings and officer misconduct, completes its investigation. The agency had put its probe on hold until Servin's acquittal last week on a charge of involuntary manslaughter.
But then he's going on a "listening tour," no doubt at the behest of Rahm - because guess who he's listening to?
- Taking a page from Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s 2010 campaign playbook, Chicago Police Supt. Garry McCarthy and his top brass are going on a “listening tour.”
McCarthy is trying to mend the strained relationship between the department and minority communities.
The recent acquittal of Detective Dante Servin on involuntary manslaughter charges in the fatal shooting of Rekia Boyd in 2012 was the latest controversy to stoke animosity toward the police in African-American neighborhoods. Questionable police actions in other cities - from Ferguson, Missouri, to Staten Island, New York, to Baltimore - haven’t helped here, either.
McCarthy will meet with residents and community leaders to “hear about the issues that matter most to them, address public safety and continue to build trust between the police department and the communities they serve,” the department said in a prepared statement.
You know what? That article from yesterday about the young cops throwing a football around a fucked-up vacant lot in North Lawndale - that would probably do more to alleviate the "strained relationship" than twenty McStretlight "listening tours" with all his top brass could ever hope to accomplish.
Hey Gar? Be sure you bring along Al "Dunkin" Wysinger along, the First Deputy with no actual power, who can tell the community how he wants coppers out there putting "hands on people (and folks)" and "don't worry about the lawsuits." That'll go over real well. And your Deputy of CAPS, a dead-end spot previous superintendents have managed to shoehorn embarrassing or incompetent exempts into. Otherwise your "top brass" is going to look awfully pasty.
Hey Gar? Be sure you bring along Al "Dunkin" Wysinger along, the First Deputy with no actual power, who can tell the community how he wants coppers out there putting "hands on people (and folks)" and "don't worry about the lawsuits." That'll go over real well. And your Deputy of CAPS, a dead-end spot previous superintendents have managed to shoehorn embarrassing or incompetent exempts into. Otherwise your "top brass" is going to look awfully pasty.
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posted by SCC at 12:37 AM
87 Comments:
Tell them if they don't want the police then stop breaking the law
"Mixed Messages" is neospeak for what in the old days we used to call horseshit double talk.
Why do superintendents use recruit graduations to warn of dire circumstances and to threaten new officers?
My class got a lecture on theft, thanks to some headline du jour. A friend's class got a lecture on not taking bribes, under threat of prison. Family members must be bewildered by these stupid, negative speeches. (Mom asked if someone in the class had gotten into trouble.)
On one of the happiest, most gratifying days of your life, with your whole bright and shiny career in front of you, it would be nice to hear something uplifting and positive, not a lecture.
Listening tour, they haven't listened since they got hear. More like ram everything down your throat, now let's play nice.
I for one will be voting for a new union leadership. And the Mc and six a duck!
That Wet Brain is a motherfucker. Cut McMakeItADouble some slack, SCC.
I've heard all the Superintendent does is attend meetings. He must have ran out of meetings. Now he finally get down to the peasants!
If he truly gave a fuck about our safety and well being, he wouldn't be destroying this department by means of a de facto "lay-off."
Shutting down detective areas.
Consolidating districts and busting out city-wide units, condemning coppers to cross-town commutes then putting a brick on bids to keep coppers from bidding to districts close to home when EVERYBODY knows those same districts could stand an infusion of 75 - 100 coppers easily.
You have small, majority non taxpaying districts with nearly 500 officers and large districts full of taxpayers and contributors with less than 300 being invaded by shitbirds fleeing THEIR over-Policed breeding grounds to hunt where The Police ain't.
Put that shit in your Compstat pipes and blow bubbles with it, you gold star charlatans...
How about a listening tour where the shitbirds listen to the police, teachers, role models, etc.?
He doesn't listen to any of the bosses on the job. He knows it all. Why would he listen to a bunch of civilians?
Are you f'nig kidding me! Think what you want about the State's Attorney charging this cop, but if McCarthy had a problem with it, he should have said so at the time this officer was charged!!! Total Pu*sy! Now he has an opinion. If Cline or even Hilliard thought their guy was getting screwed, they would have stood up. Damn.
Sheahan backed his guys to a fault. But they NEVER waited till the end of the court case to "suddenly" come to their defense. What a weasel. It's real easy to be a hero when everyone else has done the hard work. Grow some balls McCarthy. Look to Sheahan or Cline for some help. Bitch
Watching these assholes loot and burn made me sick, but what made me angry was the fact that on orders of the mayor and top brass the police just watched.
God does this McCarthy have to go. What a stroke!
You're right - most cops walking and talking to people in their beat will trump whatever bullshit Garry slings. He's a fucking clown. It's simple: Get out of the car, take off the Oakleys and say hello. It's the same counterinsurgency stuff we were doing in Afghanistan.
As for that Detective... well, he needs to be gone from the job. Guilty or not, bad decisions have consequences.
I am SO tired of hearing about the ineptness of the CPD.
Time for McCarthy to go. Time for the over-promoted white shirts to go.
Time to get back to real policing with real leadership.
Look at Baltimore. A perfect picture of total ineptness. Chicago will do all it can to match or surpass that if something "hits the fan".
Can't find the right person to replace McCarthy? You ain't looking too hard!
Imagine Sheriff Arpaio coming to Chicago. Or even the sheriff from Milwaukee - David Clarke.
You won't find leaders in the CPD hierarchy
ALL of them are over-promoted clout hacks. So no "promotion from within".
When outsiders can evaluate, measure, and plainly see the lack of leadership in CPD, it's time to make some changes.
REAL changes, not musical chairs with merit hacks.
Not a LEO, JAFO
Great. Now we have to carry a football in the trunk along with our beat binders and PPE kits.
Off-duty? Then its not your business. Just call 911 for the noise disturbance. The city doesn't have your back.
Wow! History does repeat itself! I recall when Supt Conlisk ( I man that I liked and respected) did pretty much the same thing. He went around with his top deputies and listened to the public at gatherings around the city. It did not go so well. most of them devolved into shouting matches. Renault Robinson, then head of the afro American patrolmans league was in most of the crowds wearing his uniform with a white traffic hat stirring things up. I have a feeling that this will not do much better. I was at two of Conlisk's gatherings on the south side. He was one of the better supes that I worked for. This occurred around 1973.
Chief Gulliford was not at the graduation....
Why did McStreetlightassasin wait til after the fact.Classic police behavior to see which side of the fence to jump to.....
Go on your listening tour and what will you hear? Do you really think you will be "educated" by the "uneducated?"
The problems won't get solved by "listening" to them. They are the ones that need to listen.
The only way to get people to stick to a moral, non-criminal lifestyle is through fear. After 6 years of Obama, and a media gone leftist, the general populace has come to believe that the police are the enemy, when, in fact, the only enemy they have is the one looking back in the mirror.
It's only a matter of time until the rioting comes here, and when it does, the community will finally say, enough is enough, let the police loose. That's when they will start "listening."
And take along past Cmdr EV from 019 who was laterally moved to a cubicle in HQ with no power, no formal duties and no staff. And we're still paying his Cmdr' salary.
When will the Detective be reinstated and given his back pay???
Baltimore is burning. America, this is the end result of making us the bad guys. We are not the bad guys.
Hey SCC, after watching the rioting in Baltimore last night I said we would be even more in trouble if the same situation would of occurred in Chicago. You should start a thread on our departments short comings and what needs to be done to be prepared, example; I believe the department only has 2 armored vehicles. I'f needed to evacuate officers in different parts of the city, we would be in trouble
Have fun listening. I listened to the community my whole career and all I got out of it was the same headshake the Aflac duck had after listening to Yogi Berra.
OT: A member of my small-town police force recently was called to a domestic dispute by a baby-momma. She wanted to use the cop(s) against her baby's dad, who desires more than the pittance of child visitation the momma offers. The cop clearly could see there was no issue and he was being used by this woman. She called the cops to get them to show up when baby was being dropped off to mom by the dad. The cop chatted with the dad and was about as clear-eyed and full of common sense as you could ever dream.
I've never had contact with CPD, but I can say for sure that out here we have some incredibly great people wearing the uniform.
Garys Got ta Go
Must get those talking sync'ed up better!
Great..now how about another Detectives class.
The question an Officer has to ask themselves if I happen to kill someone Off-duty, is the City going to pay the family?
Don't count on it.
Look at this article from Salon. I don't even know how to put this in words:
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/28/baltimores_violent_protesters_are_right_smashing_police_cars_is_a_legitimate_political_strategy/
Time to beat up the Pilgrims again!
Fuck you police, it's your fault!
Fuck you white people, it's your fault!
Fuck you white police, it's your fault!
Fuck your pension, we need that $$$ for dude and connected contractors!
Now go get 'em! Remember, no alligator arms now!
OT:
RE: Baltimore
Obama just said police abuse is a widespread crisis that has been occurring for a long time
Any officer that makes an effort on the street anymore needs their head examined
Hands up, I'm done
It's a sad statement when all the politicians want to do is placate, and cater to, the beast.
Speaking of mixed messages....
BHO interrupted his news conference with the Japanese Prime Minister to address what has been happening in Baltimore. For a moment he was absolutely righteous and eloquent saying that there was no excuse for the crimes committee there. That he felt sorry for the injured police officers. That bringing a crow bar to loot a store was stealing and setting fire to a neighborhood was arson.
Then, either his teleprompter broke down or he realized that wasn't his real message and he did a slow motion Shortshanks Stutter. He started into the old BHO saying how cameras were exposing how the police were bad and he couldn't take over all the police but he could steer them in a different direction.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey SCC, after watching the rioting in Baltimore last night I said we would be even more in trouble if the same situation would of occurred in Chicago. You should start a thread on our departments short comings and what needs to be done to be prepared, example; I believe the department only has 2 armored vehicles. I'f needed to evacuate officers in different parts of the city, we would be in trouble
4/28/2015 08:11:00 AM
Hey, REPORTER, do your own research and legwork.
Dealing with drug dealers in Indonesia:
"Eight convicted drug smugglers -- including two of the so-called "Bali Nine" -- have been executed by a firing squad in Indonesia, Reuters reported, citing local media."
Pitiful....just pitiful....
6:16AM....
Hey Mr. Counterinsurgency, how'd that work out over there?
The Mohammedans all love us now, right?
Stop comparing this place to Afghanistan.
South Africa or Zimbabwe is where we're headed.
OT:
RE: Baltimore
Obama just said police abuse is a widespread crisis that has been occurring for a long time
So is the Presidents advisor Al Sharpton.
Anonymous said...
Chief Gulliford was not at the graduation....
4/28/2015 07:07:00 AM
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....who gives a shit?
Who gives a fuck what obama says? Do you really care? What if he said the police were doing a great job and are the pillars of society? Would that make a difference? The guy is a zero that BS'd his way into office. Using what he says for anything is simply an excuse to do nothing.
Dude was on the radio this morning explaining to the dumb white announcers why this Baltimore "protest" was occurring. Dude said every time the black man develops some way to make money to support hisself "they" pass a law and come and arrest the black man. I guess "we" are "they."
He then explained that the black man found way to make money through selling cigarettes, no taxes of course, and "they" passed a law against that keeping the black man down again.
He wouldn't go into detail about those "other" things except to try and say entrepreneurial activities. You know. Thinking on his feet kind of thing.
Wouldn't address the main problem of black people just don't want to follow the rules and obey laws. Notice how the rioting doesn't really get going until 3 or 4 in the afternoon when dude wakes up after his hard night of drinking and selling the looted booty.
And the announcers, on WGN, ooohed and aaahed and declared he was just the bestest guest on their show maybe forever. That just made me sick and off went WGN, maybe forever.
Anonymous said...
Why do superintendents use recruit graduations to warn of dire circumstances and to threaten new officers?
My class got a lecture on theft, thanks to some headline du jour. A friend's class got a lecture on not taking bribes, under threat of prison. Family members must be bewildered by these stupid, negative speeches. (Mom asked if someone in the class had gotten into trouble.)
On one of the happiest, most gratifying days of your life, with your whole bright and shiny career in front of you, it would be nice to hear something uplifting and positive, not a lecture.
4/28/2015 01:08:00 AM
On my graduation day, "one of the happiest, most gratifying days of (my) life," I was supposed to get an award for performance. I told my family. Family came to graduation. In the program was another guy's name for this award. I know damn well I beat him but he had steam. Tough shit I was told.
Happy and gratifying? To be embarrassed publicly in front of my family, my classmates and my young son who was waiting to see dad get an award, that wasn't happy or gratifying or anything. It was merely a harbinger of what was to come in my police career.
After that, I never felt the slightest guilt for hitting the medical or stealing overtime. The city paid dearly for running a corrupt clout heavy police department and humiliating me in front of my family. How many new young PO's go through something like that and say right then, fuck it, and start screwing the city. For me, it didn't end until retirement. They paid for the entire 29 and a day. And I don't give a shit who likes it or not. That was my payback.
What are your thoughts on Sheriff Clarke from Milwaukee as next CPD Chief? I'm not a LEO but I like him because he's no-nonsense and would probably kick ass. But for those with badges - what do you think?
Obama is an anti police piece of shit!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT:
RE: Baltimore
Obama just said police abuse is a widespread crisis that has been occurring for a long time
Any officer that makes an effort on the street anymore needs their head examined
Hands up, I'm done
4/28/2015 11:53:00 AM
I disagree completely. My partner and I are super aggressive and are the most active on the watch. We follow the rules and have never got in trouble. It's simple: be proactive, follow the rules.
A "listening tour" wtf??? Sounds like some first grade/ kindergarten field trip. Taxpayers are made to pay this fool $300k/yr to entertain nothing but illegal number crunching and half-baked schemes like this from both the likes of himself and Rahmen noodles. What a crock of shit! This clown doesn't know how to hear anything past his own drunken thoughts. We've been telling him to leave for the past four years but he still won't listen!!
Sounds like McStreetlights is building a resume for his next job as the consultant that "reduced crime in Chiraq". Must be getting getting ready for a road show and consultant $$$
Garry McCarthy? Listening?!?!? HAHAHAHAHA
What a crock of shit. G-Mac don't listen to no man!
This just in......... police this week have answered millions of jobs nation wide, but we are going to show the one questionable incident from 2 weeks ago over and over.
Wonder what Alfonza "Y'all Blueshirts a Bunch O' Pussies" Wysinger has to say about this?
Send him to B-more... The wind from his braggadocious swing-dickery will put out the flames.
Weren't the CAPS meetings supposed to accomplish that?
Off topic but I just found out today that an exam for bomb and arson was administered this past sunday. A lot of people I spoke with had no idea either. Any suggestions on how to approach this with FOP? Thanks
This is a joke, right? Sarcasm and silliness? A listening tour? Seriously?
What really gets me pissed is that I see some liberal white hipsters along with a sea of black rioters. You also see the same thing in any black lives matter protests. Maybe 10% to 15% of the protestors are white hipsters. I challenge any white hipster to go walk around Ashland and Garfield Blvd.
Listening tour? He's going to need a hibbity jibbity interpreter.
McCan'tkeepmymouthshut should STFU about Dante and the shooting. Address it as IPRA is further investigating and we will wait for there conclusion and recommendations.As for the addressing the new recruits this should all begin in the academy and end there. If they don't get it then they never will.As are old Irish W/C said you got shit for brains and it comes out when you open your mouth so STFU. Next don't get involved off duty unless your being stuck up or it involves your family and call 911 Other than that fuck it.
Aaahhh.....Didn't Hillary go on a 'listening tour' as she began her Senate campaign in New York State? Is Mac gong to run for office......in New York?
Off topic but I just found out today that an exam for bomb and arson was administered this past sunday. A lot of people I spoke with had no idea either. Any suggestions on how to approach this with FOP? Thanks
You are an idiot. It was post on the I clear messages for everyone to see a while back along with the et test... Also it was a bomb an arson test goofy. Try bomb technician test,,
Why did McCarthy save his comments until AFTER the judge threw the case out?
rb
"Listening tour?"
So this asshole is going to go around until he hears what he wants to hear, just like almost all the bossholes do, correct?
Does anyone actually think this guy is seeking legitimate input? Please speak up, so you can be avoided as too dangerous to work around.
Anonymous said...
What are your thoughts on Sheriff Clarke from Milwaukee as next CPD Chief? I'm not a LEO but I like him because he's no-nonsense and would probably kick ass. But for those with badges - what do you think?
4/28/2015 02:58:00 PM
Since when did we get a vote?
Just take the money and run, Al!!!
You don't need any real power in your position,
after all, we all know Rahm told you that the real
power is in the checkbook!
Time to beat up the Pilgrims again!
Fuck you police, it's your fault!
Fuck you white people, it's your fault!
Fuck you white police, it's your fault!
Fuck your pension, we need that $$$ for dude and connected contractors!
Now go get 'em! Remember, no alligator arms now!
You forgot the most important phrase of all: Black lives matter.
On my graduation day, "one of the happiest, most gratifying days of (my) life," I was supposed to get an award for performance. I told my family. Family came to graduation. In the program was another guy's name for this award. I know damn well I beat him but he had steam. Tough shit I was told.
Happy and gratifying? To be embarrassed publicly in front of my family, my classmates and my young son who was waiting to see dad get an award, that wasn't happy or gratifying or anything. It was merely a harbinger of what was to come in my police career.
After that, I never felt the slightest guilt for hitting the medical or stealing overtime. The city paid dearly for running a corrupt clout heavy police department and humiliating me in front of my family. How many new young PO's go through something like that and say right then, fuck it, and start screwing the city. For me, it didn't end until retirement. They paid for the entire 29 and a day. And I don't give a shit who likes it or not. That was my payback.
4/28/2015 02:58:00 PM
I happen to be the original poster.
It happened to me, too. Not that somebody clouted got it, but that they just 'forgot' to put my name on the program or acknowledge me at the ceremony. And, after I'd worked my ass off for it, spent off-time helping others get it, I got zip. I was mortified. (But hey, my homeroom instructor said if it meant that much to me, he'd write up a note that said I should have gotten it and it was an oversight. I'm sure my dad would have been impressed by a note. God love you, Ed Shannon, but a note wasn't going to cut it.)
It didn't color my career, though. I worked hard, I got promoted, I made great friends and had a good run. Being dissed like that annoys me to this day, but I wasn't about to let it ruin my life or my career. For what it's worth, I'm really sorry for what happened to you.
Has McCarthy been the supt here for five years yet? Shouldn't he be getting a bar on his sleeve soon for his years of service?
Off topic but I just found out today that an exam for bomb and arson was administered this past sunday. A lot of people I spoke with had no idea either. Any suggestions on how to approach this with FOP? Thanks
4/28/2015 07:09:00 PM
How could you not know about it? The announcement was in the CO book and the admin messages about signing up, and getting a medical clearance form filled out. No grievance for you!
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After that, I never felt the slightest guilt for hitting the medical or stealing overtime. The city paid dearly for running a corrupt clout heavy police department and humiliating me in front of my family. How many new young PO's go through something like that and say right then, fuck it, and start screwing the city. For me, it didn't end until retirement. They paid for the entire 29 and a day. And I don't give a shit who likes it or not. That was my payback.
4/28/2015 02:58:00 PM
If you were trying to be funny. You weren't. If you were telling the truth, you are the biggest douche bag I have ever met or heard about on this Department.
You didn't get some silly "award" you thought you deserved at your
Academy graduation so you spent your whole career "stealing"?! Your words, not mine. You embarrassed yourself in front of your family for your entire life you loser. You never even should have graduated. You never learned the whole honor and integrity thing. We are all happy you are off the job at least.
" That was my payback.
4/28/2015 02:58:00 PM"
Oooo... My feelings were hurt, so I stole from the taxpayers.
Sounds like the assholes in Baltimore. Nice going - you didn't get aced out of an award because of someone with more clout than you, you got aced out because you're a jag off. How's your family like that?
Dickhead.
Anonymous said...
Aaahhh.....Didn't Hillary go on a 'listening tour' as she began her Senate campaign in New York State? Is Mac gong to run for office......in New York?
4/28/2015 08:37:00 PM
I hear he kept his ex-wife's wedding dress in a box under the stairs at a brownstone in Brooklyn.
The last real 1st Deputy was who, John Thomas? I think once Dana Starks brought his mumbling ass in there is when they stripped all power from the job. 1st Deputy was once the most powerful post on the CPD. Now it is an office for the ceremonial black man.
Anonymous said...
Off topic but I just found out today that an exam for bomb and arson was administered this past sunday. A lot of people I spoke with had no idea either. Any suggestions on how to approach this with FOP? Thanks
4/28/2015 07:09:00 PM
Wow, that was a good laugh. Approach it with FOP, good one. First you need to put your Bozo the clown outfit on. Then go down to FOP and try to convince them you are serious about this, really serious. Bring Bucket No. 6 with you so you can play the Grand Prize Game with Dean.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Listening tour? He's going to need a hibbity jibbity interpreter.
4/28/2015 08:16:00 PM
Coffee snort.
Instead of "Hands up Don't Shoot" t-shirts, the police should start wearing "Hands up Don't Police." Just give them a report and wait for the next call. This is what they want.
When will the Detective be reinstated and given his back pay???
Never.
The next step is the G charging him with a violation of civil rights.
Anonymous said...
It's a sad statement when all the politicians want to do is placate, and cater to, the beast.
4/28/2015 12:19:00 PM
You forgot to mention that the third part after placating and catering; giving them everything for nothing in exchange for their votes. The everything for nothing that we pay for. I have my own family to provide for and I'm tired of the government taking from me and giving it to able-bodied people who refuse to work. The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money. Just imagine if all the entitlements were eliminated. People would end up in one of four places, cemetery, prison, place of employment or school. It's a win -win situation. No more selling dope on the streets because if your working or in school there's nobody to sell the dope and no more victims to be shot. Why is it in working class neighborhoods there is nobody on the streets? Because they're working or in school. It's all about choices. If you choose to work or go to school preparing yourself for the workforce you become a productive, self supporting member of society. If you choose the thug life you end up in jail or the cemetery. It's that simple.
The society we have today is manufactured by our politicians who are throwing our tax dollars at a minority of our population so they can be re-elected. All entitlements will be eliminated before you even think of diminishing my pension. When you back a police officer into a corner leaving him no options, don't expect to emerge unscathed from the situation you created.
"After that, I never felt the slightest guilt for hitting the medical or stealing overtime. The city paid dearly for running a corrupt clout heavy police department and humiliating me in front of my family. How many new young PO's go through something like that and say right then, fuck it, and start screwing the city. For me, it didn't end until retirement. They paid for the entire 29 and a day. And I don't give a shit who likes it or not. That was my payback.
4/28/2015 02:58:00 PM"
If you could leave your address, I have a physical skills award lying in a box somewhere. I'd be more than happy to send it to you.
I'm serious Jagoff, think of yourself as vet who finally got his due.
"After that, I never felt the slightest guilt for hitting the medical or stealing overtime. The city paid dearly for running a corrupt clout heavy police department and humiliating me in front of my family. How many new young PO's go through something like that and say right then, fuck it, and start screwing the city. For me, it didn't end until retirement. They paid for the entire 29 and a day. And I don't give a shit who likes it or not. That was my payback."
Awesome. You're also screwing the taxpayer. And over your career, your attitude rubs off on younger officers, who repeat this same behavior. And you getting butthurt over not getting an award? Seriously? Do you do the same if you get your feelings hurt on the street by a civilian?
I sure hope you're not a real officer. I don't even have the words to fully articulate my disgust.
Do ya think McNYPD Blue got his peepee slapped by Mayor Douchie for having the balls to have his own opinion on a trial involving a PO?
For what it's worth, I'm really sorry for what happened to you.
4/29/2015 01:15:00 AM
Why are you sorry for this loser? He just told you he spent his entire career stealing your tax money because he didn't get some silly award. What a miserable little man. Not enough love from your mother?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Has McCarthy been the supt here for five years yet? Shouldn't he be getting a bar on his sleeve soon for his years of service?
4/29/2015 01:29:00 AM
Been here almost four years. 16 May 2011
The new PPOs R being trained NOT 2 throw in slips when they make late arrests. I just asked one to fill a slip out at noon and I'd take it to the Lt. The PPO didn't want to cause any trouble. That shits got to stop. Working Mids and there till Noon demands a slip.
I started watching them and asking if they handed in their slips and same from 2 other PPOs that just got of their PPO status. They have em brain washed in our District.
I happen to be the original poster.
It happened to me, too. Not that somebody clouted got it, but that they just 'forgot' to put my name on the program or acknowledge me at the ceremony. And, after I'd worked my ass off for it, spent off-time helping others get it, I got zip. I was mortified. (But hey, my homeroom instructor said if it meant that much to me, he'd write up a note that said I should have gotten it and it was an oversight. I'm sure my dad would have been impressed by a note. God love you, Ed Shannon, but a note wasn't going to cut it.)
It didn't color my career, though. I worked hard, I got promoted, I made great friends and had a good run. Being dissed like that annoys me to this day, but I wasn't about to let it ruin my life or my career. For what it's worth, I'm really sorry for what happened to you.
4/29/2015 01:15:00 AM
The award means nothing. The humiliation and embarrassment in front of family is the big thing. And it was a harbinger of many years of this dept.'s bullshit. It wasn't a mistake, it was on purpose. I saw many promotions stolen, I saw good people get screwed so some bosses blow job princess got what she wanted. Don't tell me about stealing time. Just look at any tact team. What is a duck day? There is no code on the A&A's for a duck day. That is theft. I've seen fistfights in a station over one guy who thinks another guy got to steal more time. You learn real quick it is all bullshit. Very few angels on this job.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The new PPOs R being trained NOT 2 throw in slips when they make late arrests. I just asked one to fill a slip out at noon and I'd take it to the Lt. The PPO didn't want to cause any trouble. That shits got to stop. Working Mids and there till Noon demands a slip.
I started watching them and asking if they handed in their slips and same from 2 other PPOs that just got of their PPO status. They have em brain washed in our District.
4/29/2015 10:43:00 PM
Yeah, well there'll be hell to pay if some sharp attorney gets a notion to ask questions on the stand as to whether certain things were done, written, collected or generated whether on or off-duty. That happened a lot when I worked some Federal cases and when records of overtime slips couldn't be produced, things got dicey sometimes. We didn't lose whole cases, but we lost a couple of charges. Don't be stupid. If you worked, you worked.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
For what it's worth, I'm really sorry for what happened to you.
4/29/2015 01:15:00 AM
Why are you sorry for this loser? He just told you he spent his entire career stealing your tax money because he didn't get some silly award. What a miserable little man. Not enough love from your mother?
4/29/2015 04:57:00 PM
You didn't get a passing grade in observation and perception, did you?
I said I was sorry for what happened to him, not that I was sorry for how he chose to deal with it.
And taking shots at somebody's mother, when you can't think of anything intelligent to say, is more than a tad juvenile, don't you think?
How about this....if U didn't earn it then don't take it. So if U'r merit anything give it up....ha.....ha...
That's funny shit
"Iron Mike" up North a real leader of men
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