Violent Weekend = Guns are Bad
- Mayor Rahm Emanuel says he’s been in touch with the families of the dozen people killed by gunfire this weekend, including a four-year-old girl. He also talked to reporters and police about the more than three dozen people wounded as well, reports WBBM [...]
[...] He says it will take more than police officers to quell the violence, it will take community action and it will take stronger gun laws.
“It is not just about how many police you have, it is about the quantity of guns that are on the street so we actually have gun laws that back up the men and women we just recognized,” Emanuel said.
And the number of lawful gun owners contributing to the mayhem this weekend?
- zero
Did anyone see the Department information bulletin issues earlier this week? The one where one-hundred-eleven pistols and short-barreled rifles were stolen from a rail car in the 004 District this past April? That was the first we heard of it - 111 guns and nary a mention in the press that we saw. Nor a mention from Rahm about how criminals get guns.
Did Rahm regale the press with complaints about how Prickwrinkle and Dart are emptying the jail? Or how judges are giving light sentences for gun possession...boot camp in some cases? Or how so many shooters and victims seem to be out on parole or electronic monitoring when they get tangled up in gun crimes again and again and again? Or how the community seems to condone this violence by their silence and semi-organized resistance to any form of cooperation with the judicial system?
Move on Rahm...you know that phrase? Move on.
Did Rahm regale the press with complaints about how Prickwrinkle and Dart are emptying the jail? Or how judges are giving light sentences for gun possession...boot camp in some cases? Or how so many shooters and victims seem to be out on parole or electronic monitoring when they get tangled up in gun crimes again and again and again? Or how the community seems to condone this violence by their silence and semi-organized resistance to any form of cooperation with the judicial system?
Move on Rahm...you know that phrase? Move on.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:31 AM
26 Comments:
It took that rail car ending up on the west coast, and over a month after the actual theft for anyone from the railroad to determine that all those guns were stolen. With the lack of organization and their inability to keep tabs on the inventory within their rail cars, you'd have thought that the City of Chicago or CPS was in charge of the rail cars.
More pandering.
No such thing as bad guns! It is bad people who misuse guns! No different than bad owners having vicious dogs!
Not a cop but a regular reader. Cops' lives are on the line here, and wouldn't some COMMON SENSE gun laws keep a few guns away from criminals and keep a few more cops alive? Why not concentrate on the guys who are trafficking?
"Criminals should not have guns" rahm! You admit we need more police are you stuffing academy with 2 shifts everyday of coppers to try to stem the violence of course in the "black" community? Same people same violence nothing changes! And you don't want to fund pensions, did you promise union bosses something to pass this dream of casino cash? Mayor don't care if you borrow, beg, or steal 550 million due now, pay it if you have to raise property taxes it would b a "temporary" basis correct? You could rebate money back if and when the casino opens that's if the money is not stolen from connected political families. Crestwood rebated money to residents ask them how now pay what's owed thank you! Alderman feel free to step up and speak up pay the pension don't be sheep!
Tougher gun laws?
Where are they going to put the people that violate them?
State prisons? Hell, in Illinois, if you do double digits on a bit for murder two, then you're (un)lucky.
Blah blah blah. The guns aren't bad its the shitheads carrying them. Someone stand up and tell it like it is stop being concerned about being called a racist !!!
The mayor, Crook Co sheriff and other pols are identical to the clowns running Baltimore, even if some of the Chicago clowns are lighter in skin tone.
A former gun store owner, 3-gun competitive shooter and now novelist Larry Correia hit the nail(s) on the head about Emanuel's hokey call for Prohibition:
http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/an-opinion-on-gun-control/
Two excerpts from a long piece:
In all honesty I have no respect for anybody who believes Gun Free Zones actually work. You are going to commit several hundred felonies, up to and including mass murder, and you are going to refrain because there is a sign? That No Guns Allowed sign is not a cross that wards off vampires. It is wishful thinking, and really pathetic wishful thinking at that.
The only people who obey No Guns signs are people who obey the law. People who obey the law aren’t going on rampages.
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On taking guns from people:
There are more guns than there are people in America, and some of us have enough to arm our entire neighborhood.
But for the sake of math, let’s say that there are only 80 million gun owners, and let’s say that the government decides to round up all those pesky guns once and for all. Let’s be generous and say that 90% of the gun owners don’t really believe in the 2nd Amendment, and their guns are just for duck hunting. Which is what politicians keep telling us, but is actually rather hilarious when you think about how the most commonly sold guns in America are the same detachable magazine semiautomatic rifles I talked about earlier.
So ten percent refuse to turn their guns in. That is 8 million instantaneous felons. Let’s say that 90% of them are not wanting to comply out of sheer stubbornness. Let’s be super generous and say that 90% of them would still just roll over and turn their guns when pressed or legally threatened. That leaves 800,000 Americans who are not turning their guns in, no matter what. To put that in perspective there are only about 700,000 police officers in the whole country.
Let’s say that these hypothetical 10% of 10% are willing to actually fight to keep their guns. Even if my hypothetical estimate of 800,000 gun nuts willing to fight for their guns is correct, it is still 97% higher than the number of insurgents we faced at any one time in Iraq, a country about the size of Texas.
However, I do honestly believe that it would be much bigger than 10%. Once the confiscations turned violent, then it would push many otherwise peaceful people over the edge. I saw somebody on Twitter post about how the 2nd Amendment is stupid because my stupid assault rifles are useless against drones… That person has obviously never worked with the people who build the drones, fly the drones, and service the drones. I have. Where to you think the majority of the US military falls on the political spectrum exactly? There’s a reason Mitt Romney won the military vote by over 40 points, and it wasn’t because of his hair.
And as for those 700,000 cops, how many of them would side with the gun owners? All the gun nuts, that’s for sure. As much as some people like to complain about the gun culture, many of the people you hire to protect you, and darn near all of them who can shoot well, belong to that gun culture. And as I hear people complain about the gun industry, like it is some nebulous, faceless, all powerful corporate thing which hungers for war and anarchy, I just have to laugh, because the gun industry probably has the highest percentage of former cops and former military of any industry in the country. My being a civilian was odd in the circles I worked in. The men and women you pay to protect you have honor and integrity, and they will fight for what they believe in.
So the real question the anti-gun, ban and confiscate, crowd should be asking themselves is this, how many of your fellow Americans are you willing to have killed in order to bring about your utopian vision of the future?
You can't keep twiddling the knobs on The Law, five years this, ten years that. The problem is in a society that has been driven mad by dope and bling and and tHuG lIfE and La Vida Loca, flickertwitterbeatdownphonesletsriot, and has completely lost its moral compass. Even the po-po inked up and hats on backwards. Can you blame normal people for staying inside with the TV, listening for noises at the door? You can't point "deterrent" surveillance cameras at people who tape their own crimes and laugh in your face about it.
We got a big problem. The solution is simple, direct, obvious, inexpensive, and final -- and is held to be outside the realm of "civilized discussion." Therefore, the problem will continue and worsen -- at vast expense, and, more to the point, at vast profit to those who promulgate it.
"...so we actually have gun laws that back up the men and women we just recognized,”
Gives you an award and then quick takes the opportunity to pin his agenda to your behind on the way out.
Miserable little worm.
Surprised he didn't have The Table Of Guns set up out in the lobby. Haven't seen that in ages.
One of the legs break off?
OT --
No limit to stupidity.
Gun-shaped call phone case.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150526163900-26-selfies-0527-super-169.jpg
Get you killed.
How about just locking up the felonious thugs when they are caught with a gun?
Take them out of circulation for 5 years, and you will be amazed at how the crime rates improve.
Simply amazing that Rahm keeps spewing forth the same tired drivel. Newsflash Rahm, it is illegal to own or purchase a gun without a FOID card.it is illegal to carry a handgun unless you go thru training and have a CCL. It is also illegal for a felon to be anywhere near a gun. Tryenforcing the COMMON SENSE laws already on the books which means your pals Perkwankle and Dart need to focus a little more attention on these criminals and not worry what the racial makeup of the jail is. Morons.
Ya know, with all these people(1) getting whacked year-in and year-out here in good old Chiraq -- 400 here, 500 there, etc. etc. etc -- one would think that pretty soon the trigger happy maniacs are gonna run out of people(1) to shoot at. :-)
[(1) -- 'and Folk', ya can't forget 'Folk' ;-)]
That was the first we heard of it --- Really SCC??? Maybe spend a few more minutes looking at Officer safety alerts. SMH
No legal guns, no concealed carry holders of course you have a thug problem here, and with judges letting the animals roam free more and violence occurs correlation?
On another secret not exposed subject how much does an alderman in pension? How long until they collect? Do they get extra for running some clout committee? Do they and their families get free health care for life? How many people working on their staffs? how much extra money do they get for office space and to buy votes?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not a cop but a regular reader. Cops' lives are on the line here, and wouldn't some COMMON SENSE gun laws keep a few guns away from criminals and keep a few more cops alive? Why not concentrate on the guys who are trafficking?
5/27/2015 06:58:00 AM
We have all the gun laws we need.
What we don't have is prosecution, justice or incarceration.
WOW - now that's what I call pandering.
I think my new program, "Buy a gun back NOW" will do much better. All we need to do is give anyone $3,000 for any type of gun they turn in.
We can get 3,000 guns off the street for under $1,000,000. Well, we DO need some people to administer the Program, so that's another $4,000,000 for an Executive Director, two Directors and staff - but come on, that's still under $5,000,000 a year!
Isn't that a great idea?
(Pensions aren't figured into that. I'll get back to you with that little item.)
OOOPS, wait my math was wrong 3,000 x $3,000 is $9,000,000, not $900,000. The cost would be around $13,000,000.
Wow, now I know how we got into Billions of dollars of debt in this state! (We keep missing a couple of zeros here and there.)
It's still a Great Idea!!
See you at the next Parade!
(OT) just got flyer from Eddie Burke 51st from central to Normandy will be totally redone looks like more found money. Are those streets in Chicago? If not are we paying for it ?
For the first time in history,a civilized nation has full gun registration....our streets will be safer...our Police will be more efficient....and the world will follow our lead into the future ! (Adolph Hitler in 1935).
"Mayor Rahm Emanuel says he’s been in touch with the families...He says it will take more than police officers to quell the violence, it will take community action and it will take stronger gun laws."
No, it will take these families to stop breeding criminals.
I asked this once before, but didn't see the answer:
Is the Chicago Crime Commission still operating?
I found their 2012 Gang Book to be excellent.
I am looking to work with, fund so e type of private citizen, pro no nonsense law enforcement . Liberals can be annoying most of the time, but in our real world violent, crime ridden going down to Brazilian City type anarchy , Liberals are literally getting good people killed.
I want to be a part of something strong private citizens can support.
What can we do?
And as for those 700,000 cops, how many of them would side with the gun owners?
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There was a revenue study done about 5years ago. There was a county in CA that had an overwhelming amount of speeding motorists along a stretch of hwy(I don't remember the details). The tickets were (all numbers from here on out are small and used as examples to prove the above point) $100. There were 100 tickets issued. The politicians got greedy and raised the fine to a rediculous amount for a ticket to increase revenue,( let's say $1,000.) the following year, there were 10 tickets issued keeping revue the same. When asked if the fine decreased speeding for safety, the end result was no, cops would pull people over the same amount of times, but let 90% go because they didn't want to write someone a rediculously high ticket.
Cops are people and for the most part will not enforce laws on mostly law abiding people just because it is asked of them.
The following year they lowered the fine to $200 and the tickets issued was like 75 increasing revenue. So, the moral of the story is, don't compromise your morals as a cop to enforce the will of the government.
You tell me that all the German soldiers believed hitler was right and just?
Stay safe out there.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I asked this once before, but didn't see the answer:
Is the Chicago Crime Commission still operating?
I found their 2012 Gang Book to be excellent.
I am looking to work with, fund so e type of private citizen, pro no nonsense law enforcement . Liberals can be annoying most of the time, but in our real world violent, crime ridden going down to Brazilian City type anarchy , Liberals are literally getting good people killed.
I want to be a part of something strong private citizens can support.
What can we do?
5/27/2015 07:46:00 PM
I just Googled "Chicago Crime Commission"
I got 4 million results in 0.30 seconds
Try it.
"I am looking to work with, fund so e type of private citizen, pro no nonsense law enforcement . Liberals can be annoying most of the time, but in our real world violent, crime ridden going down to Brazilian City type anarchy , Liberals are literally getting good people killed.
"I want to be a part of something strong private citizens can support.
"What can we do?"
5/27/2015 07:46:00 PM
Brazil? The downtown shopkeepers pay to have the glue-sniffers, purse-snatchers, and bucket boys rounded up, hauled away somewhere else, and dumped in a ditch and shot. Bad for business. Bad for everyone, everything.
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That's what I thought.
There are penalties in the statutes. Yet the judges and/or the CCSAO gives out probation and slaps on the wrist for gun arrests.
It's the guns on the streets. It's the lack of any deterrence from the court system.
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