005 Boss Speaks Up
And will probably get launched in short order:
- I know mike Pigott takes a beating on the blog but he stood up for his guys big time at compstat today!!!!!
Sup said he thought the 10 hour days were great for 5, Pigott said i disagree, our spike in crimes are right around the time the guys are hitting the 9-10 hour mark. Supt told him to adjust his starting times to which Pigott related he has tried but was told no by MLAS.
Chief Tracy told dep johnson to not just look into it but get it done!!!!
Career wise, not good to out someone, but forget all that, Pigott was stand up today.
We also noticed that someone commented 4 sergeants left 005 this past change day - three specifically over the 10-hour day, one for a unit spot. Anyone care to confirm? We know no one from Patrol has left because the Department hasn't posted a single opening in 5 months now.
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posted by SCC at 12:31 AM
50 Comments:
Finally a boss with some testicular fortitude...this job isn't what it used to be. Morale is at an all time low, it will get lower soon if your first post is true.
I hear that the 10 hour days are coming like a freight train to every district sooner than you think .
The 10 hr day may work in a unit that's not tied to the radio, but a district will be a total destruction of the watch. The biggest complaint(s) I've heard are the start times. Most people may not realize this but if you have LESS THAN 15 YRS on than most of you will likely be on the later start times that end 0330 and later(0630 hrs). Remember people, if the 10 hr days are so great then why aren't the bosses and the powers to be doing them already to lead by example ?????????
The only reason to have 2 watches is because it's an easier way to REDUCE MANPOWER......say it again with me the reason they are pushing the 10 hr day is reduction of MANPOWER!!!!!
Only have to staff 2 watches....on paper it's a win win. Less hiring equals less promotions and less lateral movements....who the hell wants to work an entire career in a shitty district?
Stay safe.
EB
Will people from 005 speak up and tell us what's really going on in 005
you can't fight city hall. nice try.
It's refreshing to see somebody stick up for the troops.
Napoleon and McNutty will make sure he feels their wrath though..... they don't care for bosses who tell the truth and stick up for the troops.
You might also wanna find out how many Lts put in to leave over the schedule but were denied. Just saying
Dyla Hata
Man you guys are knocking the 10 hr days. 005 bosses suck. It's going back to the days of White. That's why the Sgts are leaving. It's fucking 005th dist.
Other than the start times what is wrong with the 10 hour day? Don't you get more days off a week, less work days a year? Not trolling just asking. I'd love to hear from the folks actually working the schedule.
Come on guys get on board. It won't be so bad. Once you get used to it, it won't be that bad. Just give it a try. I'd you don't like it I promise you can go back.
I didn't know Mikey had it in him.
After the meeting Pigott was cornered by don O'Neil and Eddie johnson, wish I could have heard that conversation.
It's funny how McCarthy and Tracey think they know everything, but they are so clueless about operations and what really is happening. Maybe they should stop worrying so much about contact cards and more about the people that write them, things may just get better.
They both push this legitimacy bullshit, but look at some of our so called leaders, clueless and useless.
11th ward clout guy..wow!
Pigott is one of the Heaviest Clouts on this Department and as long as there is an 11th Ward he is safe. His father was a Lt., his brother a do nothing in Mass Transit was on Daley's Bodyguard Detail. His other brother is a Colonel and attorney in the Marine Corps,slated for General, and Mike is a realist. He will be around long after McCarthy and Rahm are gone, as will his family's power. We were Sgts. together in Mass Transit, he is honest, tough and methodical. If he has nothing to say he will shut up, and when he does speak he knows what he is saying. Pay Attention, Mister Nu Yawk! "G"
Capt. Pigot for Superintendent!!!!
I've known Pigott for awhile and I've never known him to have balls of any kind. He's well known for throwing people right under the bus as well as screwing officers over. If this is true then maybe he's finally growing a pair and good for him. Sorry if I'm skeptical though.
Its easy to stand up now when you've been sitting on your butt for over 20 years.
Secret votes by the city says everyone loves it
pigoot is smart he doesn't like working out south its no mans land down there pigott rather be in district 001!
Come on over pigott make a swap move happen!
The Lieutenant is articulate and does not put up with bullshit. He finally told the Supt. and Tracey what they are refusing to hear. The ten hour day only works with 3 shifts.
Most bosses won't stand up for the troops because they don't want to be bashed on the internet, so save the negativity here and maybe we will see more supervisors standing up for the troops and telling the truth! Good job Lieutenant! 3W
Ok, Pigot was not stepping up for the guys. He laid the blame on someone else which is he great for. And, he doe not give a crap about you or the hours you work. Think about this, "adjust their hours." This does not mean less hours, it means 7 to 9 or 5 to 7. Pigot is a politician, he would never say, "Oh, the guys are doing less work because the district commander and myself can't motivate them. Stick up for the guys, please...
I'm surprised pigott didn't just sit there and cry like he did in mass transit when they took him off days
Medical...
You know what i mean.
Got "testicular fortitude?" He does! Don't worry he is heavy clout heavy they will not touch him! But thanks for finally telling the truth!
As someone who spoke with goofball Tracey outside of CompStat, what an idiot. He asks tough at CompStat but on a one-on-one basis, stumbles left and right. And his new troll/merit sgt drinks his KoolAid all day long.
Thanks Mike, good job, bet the other so called bosses there were silent and amazed you dared tell the truth! Mike did any other bosses say anything positive in regards to your statement? Bet you no one spoke up! I give it to you Mike you are a real leader a man not afraid to speak his mind, thank you for that wow 1 real leader that knows the score!
pigott big 19th ward clout
mike can say whatever he wants to he still enjoys the 11th wards protection...don't be surprised if daley's nephew thompson is mayor in 4 yrs and mike is our boss.
Fop said the ten hours days were a dying subject.
Despite what anyone says, Capt Pigott had my back in a time when I needed it and he is a stand up guy.
15yrs on job, single and no kids im in 005 and I hate this 10.5 hr day! Five 10.5 hr days for Five consecutive weeks!!!!! You dont have a life good luck if youre married and have kids.
Miserable in 005
10.5 hr tours - no more VRI + unable to work side jobs = MEDICAL ABUSE! Tell everyone where you heard it first.
A study released not too long go revealed that sitting for long periods of time is Bad for your health and shortens your life span dramatically. But before you die at age 50 you will suffer many medical related issues do to poor blood circulation and spine and disk degeneration. This means you may not live long enough to collect a pension and if you are lucky to do so you surely wont collect that pension for for very long. Who do you think wins in the end?
Piggot is chasing that gold star and will do what ever is necessary to get it.
Anonymous said...
Pigott is one of the Heaviest Clouts on this Department and as long as there is an 11th Ward he is safe. His father was a Lt., his brother a do nothing in Mass Transit was on Daley's Bodyguard Detail. His other brother is a Colonel and attorney in the Marine Corps,slated for General, and Mike is a realist. He will be around long after McCarthy and Rahm are gone, as will his family's power. We were Sgts. together in Mass Transit, he is honest, tough and methodical. If he has nothing to say he will shut up, and when he does speak he knows what he is saying. Pay Attention, Mister Nu Yawk! "G"
5/25/2015 07:46:00 AM
He just says it in a real high voice.
Update... The start times have been changed!
That was quick.
Pigott will get his gold star and eventually become a double dipper with a pension and 6 figure city job as well. Until he landed in 005 he never had a bad spot on this job. I guess no one told Mr. NYC he was special.
What are the new start times?
Area South's 10 hour day is awesome, but it's 3 shifts - not 2
I love the 10 hour day in 005. 52 more days off a year! Lots more Quality time with the family. I consider a work day cashed anyways, I'd rather get it done and out of the way. Love the 4 day weekends
10.5 hr day is essentially a pay/benefit "cut."
Just like the whole conversion of furlough days to "furlough hours"
was designed to peel off your accumulated comp time because guys
were retiring and cashing hundreds and thousands of hours.
to 5/25/15 746am you sir hit it right on the head I have known mike for 20 yrs and he isn't a bad guys and there are a lot of horrible bosses on this job, but mike has big 11th ward clout or wack, and long after rahm n gmac are gone there will still be an 11th ward n mike knows this, think of it just like the movie the GODFATHER , the saga will always continue
Let me be honest since everyone is beating around the fucking bush.
561 has 11 Officers (rotating tact team)
562 has 8 Officers( rotating tact team)
564 has 12 Officers ( straight 3rd watch tact team)
563 has 13 Officers ( straight day tact team)
506? Why is there a midnight tact team
506 why is there even a robbery burglary team with 5 Officer and a tact sergeant
Why does 560 have 2 tact secretaries
Why does the that team have too many assigned back there and the watch is tremendously short.
There are officers riding around on 3rd watch 99
Why do we even assign a 2nd watch officer to station security.
All this wasted manpower. All the lies being told on paper is, bogus contact card missions, imbalanced day off groups and you wonder why we're so angry on the watch.
10 hour days suck if you're a beat officer because there's no perks. Will somebody please find out why because if not I'm going to see Nappy patty then on to the Sup office with these shenanigans
5th district sucks and the Boss better open his eyes and get this shit in order before he goes from acting commander to Field lieutenant
WTH
Ive asked 20 or so people about 10 hour days. Only 1, yep 1 said they like it. Do I have a bad sample group or do you guys hear the same thing from people you know?
This is how Pigott speaks up he has now restricted time on the end for PO's and Sergeants on the 2nd watch, from what he says is an uptick in crime between 1200 hours and 1600 hours. He is a stroke. His comment at Comcast was just to manipulate the McNothaveaclue to change the watch hours. Which worked! Now he hasnt even given it an opportunity to take hold and bring down the uptick. Which will never happen.
10 hour days is great. Yea so you work a long day, so what? You get 3 and 4 day weekends. Tack an extra day on there and you have a nice 5 day weekend. Remember when it was 6 and 2's, and 3 on your weekend? You loved the three day weekends when they came, what, like every 6 weeks? Here you get back to back to back 4 day weekends every 4 weeks. SO quit your crying Mr 3 years on the job and don't ruin it for everyone else!
Did 10 hour days and they were murderous on my life all around. I plan on off most of the year if forced to do them.
@10hr days are great. Your a fuckin hand job. Probably voted for angelos shot contract. I fuckin sellout scumbag. 3 years or 30yrs your an asshole. Whats good for you and your bar stool, is not for everyone.
You well paid bitches will ALWAYS find a way to whine about something, won't you?
I had just come out of roll call and I saw the whole tact team running down the hallway.
Hell I thought the building was on fire.
So I call my friend and I was told that they were doing unauthorized training with a former SWAT officer name CB.
Is this true? I thought the academy was the training grounds.
Never seen such a thing in all my 15 years.
Who is this officer CB who is training officers on high entry search warrants, survival skills and officer safety.
When I was on tact we were sent to the academy for the day.
Is this legit training because a lot of the tact officers feel like it's a waste of time and are they bring correctly trained.
Is the deputy and patrol division aware of this nonsense and again is it AUTHORIZED?
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