$2.4 Million for One Block
Just one block in the 015 District (Austin) has received $2.4 million in State funding in five years. But you won't find it in street improvements. That might make sense:
- In just five years, the State of Illinois dedicated more than $2.4 million to the 4800 block of West Adams Street in Austin.
But don't look for new developments or freshly paved roads on that stretch of street, because that's not where the money went. No, $2.4 million is the amount of money the state spent on incarcerating people for drug offenses from that block alone.
Holy Crap Batman.
DNAInfo.com has a link to the entire study of how much money is poured into the Department of Corrections based on incarceration rates. It's nothing we hadn't suspected before, but getting it all laid out in a spreadsheet and it's pretty impressive how much certain neighborhoods are a drain on society.
DNAInfo.com has a link to the entire study of how much money is poured into the Department of Corrections based on incarceration rates. It's nothing we hadn't suspected before, but getting it all laid out in a spreadsheet and it's pretty impressive how much certain neighborhoods are a drain on society.
Labels: un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:31 AM
54 Comments:
How about we just find an isolated island or a dozen someplace and put them there until they become civilized?
It has to be cheaper than the current prison system.
No better way of cutting costs than more contact cards.
It makes us look like we're actually doing something.
99% perception. 1% execution.
God, I wish I was from NY.
Great idea G-A-R-Y.
Now tell us how many are voting on that block; and most importantly HOW did they vote. My guess is 100% for Obama in the last two Presidential races and all Democrat all day for any other election. The Political Class profit from this, while the Working Class pays for it."G"
Ok SCC...
Let's see if local media can Compstat-itize this info by overlaying the expenditure
in Police/Fire/other city services/man-hours devoted to baby-sitting these enclaves
of no impulse control.
Cue:
Big-assed transport plane with "Dirty Li'l Birdie" stenciled on the side,
in a near vertical climb with all four turbo-props firewalled and wailing
as something really BIG tumbles out the rear loading gate.
Looks like something's written on it...
>Zoom in...<
"Grand-MUTHA of All FOI Requests
That Can Potentially Undo 40 Years
Of Alinskite Progressive Fuckery In
The Right Hands"
>Pffft!<
They wouldn't dare...
That would be the end of the "The Police Are The Problem"
narration and a redirection of public angst away from The Police
And toward the m/fers who really ARE the problem.
That doesnt even include their link and other govt scams.
Pilot to bombadear....
Just throw up the fences around the block, guard towers and dogs should cut the cost significantly. No EBT cards, monthly delivery of government cheese, bologna, milk, and diapers for the ever increasing population.
In my neiborhood the jumping jack comes for 10 minutes and maybe 2 t-shirts and 4 bottles of water(warm).
How will this be spun to say it's racist and purely the White Devil's fault
(Sarcasm)
But hey, Obama now wants tougher gun laws. Ha
Where are they getting this data? Don't they know its damn near impossible to get a conviction in cook county?
Guess with the latest movie theater shooting, Obama will push for a complete assault weapons ban. But without a pre-ban clause, just a full ban...
Yes, locking people up for their involvement in illicit drugs is a drain on society. For the dealer, prison. For the user, drug court and hopefully residential drug treatment with a clean record for successful completion. It is a medical problem, not just a law enforcement problem. You cannot arrest your way out of this.
Glad to see that whole "War on Drugs" thing is working so well.
How much have we spent?
How many DECADES has it been?
What accomplishments do we have to show for it?
Call the next case. Not a cop.
It gets called gentrification when neighborhoods get invested in. You cannot win.
usual suspects-call in a drone strike-roger that! send me the coordinates!
"...$2.4 million is the amount of money the state spent on incarcerating people for drug offenses from that block alone..." --In five years!
Now let's ask ourselves how much illicit drug money is attracted into that same
community in just one year eh?
After the illicit drugs are purchased the money is in effect laundered as the Air Jordan's, smart phones, new cars, and real estate, etc are purchased. The money flows to corporations and then into campaign contributions for clouted politicians. There's ta dollars generated.
We're taling hundreds of millions of dollars over five years yeah?
Now is it any wonder why the political apparatus doesn't want to do anything that will seriously effect that kind of cash flow?
Look at both sides of the coin my friends. This is not an endorsement just saying it is what it is.
Various groups want to play this to their advantage to obtain more power. Like getting more COPS on the beat so you can get a bigger budget and more promotions. more military toys, etc. We get it.
The politicians play it for more so-called crime fighting initiatives whereas they can appoint a council of connected cronies with six-figure salaries and pensions and bloated budgets.
Yeah, no-one in power wants to fix that crisis. They want to use that crisis as a tool for power and money and not let it go to waste. Should the public not agree with their plan just let the crisis fester and grow until they see things your way. Ultimately the public will cave wanting something, ANYTHING to be done and only then he-ha see.
El Chapo is large and in charge in this city yeah? oney talks and the leaders do not care where it comes from
It is because of unfair drug laws, not a criminal mindset. Right?
"...$2.4 million is the amount of money the state spent on incarcerating people for drug offenses from that block alone...."
How much money is attracted here via Obamacare when Garry takes a gang bangers gun off the street and the gang punishes that gang banger with a violation for losing the weapon with a beating or gsw to the leg?
A catch-22 no doubt.
They don't always hit their target either as we all know so throw some innocent kids that end up in the E/R or the cemetery. Not to mention the shooting between adversaries that go to the E/R.
There's a lot of subsidized medical care that flows into city coffers enriching first responders, doctors, Oh and let's not forget big pharma!!!
If the violence were to stop what's gonna replace all that money? Yeah see, that's why there's no intention of stopping it.
The gang bangers are Rahm Emanuel's job creators. Enterprises that are taking the risks creating jobs, things that the glorified corporate CEO's are unwilling or unable to do. Rahm's entrepreneurs
Sad but true. I don't endorse it but that's the reality of it.
Bring in some more criminal illegal immigrants with no background checks, hand them some ID's, some drivers licenses so we can no longer call them undocumented and get this crisis going....am I right Rahm?
We're talking a billion dollar operation as large as any corporation and you know how the leaders sell out to the money. Look at the flip side, the dark side, look beyond what the lapdog MSM media shows you
/sarc
That does not count calls for service and emergency room visits! Why no do a study on public aid and housing vouchers too???
Ever hear of Broken Windows Economics?
That $2.4 million represents an increase in the velocity of money that would not otherwise have occurred. Look at it as though it is one of Rahm's economic stimulus programs.
What would happen if all these gang bangers on the block just stopped doing what they are doing?
I mean if they just sat there and collected social welfare, because lord knows no corporation is going to hire them anyways.
Hell the corporations now even let kids with four year degrees sit idle so don't even go there and play the get an education card: "they don't have the higher math and/or science score" bullshit.
We have STEM grads working flipping burgers right now the system is so fucked up
Hey I don't like it but this is how politicians think. When a bullet comes out the barrel of a gun the velocity of money increases and each time the money changes hands it gets taxed. Give us that Obamacare subsidy money, federal grant money, use the tools and play the moral high ground that you are concerned for peoples safety bullshit.
Yeah, a $2.4 mil burden on society but how do you define the word society?
Depends on what the definition os "is" is some politicians would say.
Are the people on that block part of 'society'? Are the people on that block benefiting from the drug sales or burdened by the incarceration costs ya think?
Just who's society are we talking about ya know? The corporate run society isn't working for them I think and that's the root of the problem.
Democracy isn't working either. Overwhelmingly the people voted against banker bailouts and the leaders did them anyway. No big banking execs went to jail for their frauds. What society do the bankers belong to, or do the politicians belong to certainly it must be different than the society in the hood as their are different laws and different standards of conduct.
It is what it is. kids.
Out source it! They do it better and cheaper in Arizona!
Change the law.
If convicted of a drug offense of class 2 Felony or higher one bullet to the head. That's $00.65............. problem solved. We could solve the problem on less than $250,000.00 in Illinois.
America
Throw in all the other crime that happens on that block, shootings, homicides, battery, theft and you are well over $5 million I would bet. I was watching a comedian the other night, she was talking about how she was in Afghanistan doing a show for the troops. She said that she went on a tour and the military was saying how they have built miles of new roads, schools, hospitals and police departments for the people of Afghanistan. She then said that was great and wanted to know when the military was going to invade Detroit? I found that to be hilarious and spot on.
Damn! it would be cheaper to buy and raze the entire block.
Obama is running around the country pardoning drug dealers from prison. Since it is a non-violent crime and they are minorities he doesn't think they should be locked up.
It's possible to make arrests there every day.
Off Topic:
In case anybody was looking for one, I am that Black person, who called Sandra Bland's death a suicide right from the start. Never doubted it for a second.
Anyone who honestly believed any police dept would attempt clandestinely murder a person, in their custody, in this current anti-police climate, is a complete moron.
If you were interested in looking beyond skin color, you could plainly see that this was a troubled woman. Just look at her response to the Trooper during the traffic stop. She was confrontational from the word go. Even after he informed her that he was only issuing a warning.
Put out the cigarette, receive the warning, and be on your way.
It's sad that she killed herself. But this was in no way law enforcement's fault.
Communist Re-Distribution of Your Tax Dollars. Aren't you glad you voted Democrat ? Are you really that Stupid that you thought they needed that much of your money to fill potholes in the street?
$2.4 million is the amount of money the state spent on incarcerating people for drug offenses from that block alone.
Think if that money was spent directly in the community instead wasting it on incarceration on the failed drug war.
From Chicago's Million Dollar Blocks.com:
In other words, we are not simply punishing people for the crimes they commit. We are also punishing them for the places where they live, the schools that failed them and the employers that rejected them. And, without question, we are punishing them for the darkness of their skin. These factors work together to shape who gets portrayed as a criminal, and who escapes such portrayals.
From Ronald Reagan:
We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.
Case closed.
Call the next case. Not a cop.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Damn! it would be cheaper to buy and raze the entire block.
7/24/2015 10:47:00 AM
And the criminals will spread out. Many of the criminals will end up in (formerly) crime-free neighborhoods. It won't matter. Obama is doing the same thing with his diparate impact housing discrimination, we must move the ghetto to the good neighborhoods.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/25/417433460/in-fair-housing-act-case-supreme-court-backs-disparate-impact-claims
STOP BEING RACIAL!! Let's talk about Bruce Jenner or is it Caitlyn Jenner that'll take your mind off of foolishness you have no control over,love your neighbor,accept your neighbor,make adjustments and be glad you don't have internal conflicts that cause you to think of drug dealing,sex changes,or any other racial demon inside you,breath in,breath out and thank God for you,now leave your fellow man alone and proceed to live again!
Just build a prison over there instead of sending them downstate. That would at least cut down on transportation costs.
"What society do the bankers belong to, or do the politicians belong to certainly it must be different...It is what it is. kids."
7/24/2015 09:39:00 AM
Natter, natter, natter like a God-damned sewing machine.
What society do the LAWYERS belong to?
Kid?
Did she sign something reporting she had mental issues,in chicago mental issues discovered dont make lock up for fear of this so there is some responsibility and how many times has a officer pulled someone over smoking, is it their right to smoke in their own veh,again isn't that provoking an argument, for whoever said its not the responsibility of law enforcement,if she were a sexy blue eyed blond ,would this have happened a trooper with a knee to the back and taser in hand,I don't think so!
Reply to the first comment lol:
A dozen islands to keep them separate, like vice lord island, 4corner island, GD island, Black Pstone island, and so on. That would be hilarious.
I'm willing to bet there's blocks out there with more spent. Any examples? I'd say Grenshaw between Lawndale/Independence.
3:19 am says it all in 3 words.
Now add up how much LINK, Section 8, Medicaid, CPS, SSI disability, and misc. freebies like Obamaphone dollars that block eats up.
Now multiply that by every ghetto block in Chiraq.
All of this shit has been provided gratis for 50 fuckin' years and they still don't do shit except watch Cheaters, smoke blunt, and kill/maim eachother.
Cry me a river.
And oh yeah, Fuck You!
Fund my pension.
Change the law.
If convicted of a drug offense of class 2 Felony or higher one bullet to the head. That's $00.65............. problem solved. We could solve the problem on less than $250,000.00 in Illinois.
America
You obviously dont have any idea. The G over pays for everything. That .65 bullet would cost 65.00 if the G is paying for it. Its your money. They dont care
Thugs and chiraq costing us how much? Judges not doing their jobs just letting the scum free to kill and maim again
7/24/2015 12:36:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
$2.4 million is the amount of money the state spent on incarcerating people for drug offenses from that block alone.
Think if that money was spent directly in the community instead wasting it on incarceration on the failed drug war.
7/24/2015 12:41:00 PM
GTFOH libtard...
Trillions of our dollars poured into these death pits since 1964
and society has shit to show for it...
Keep throwing money at the same pathologies to show how
"inclusive" and "helpful" society is.
Insanity = Doing the same thing over and over while expecting
a different result.
Off Topic:
In case anybody was looking for one, I am that Black person, who called Sandra Bland's death a suicide right from the start. Never doubted it for a second.
Anyone who honestly believed any police dept would attempt clandestinely murder a person, in their custody, in this current anti-police climate, is a complete moron.
If you were interested in looking beyond skin color, you could plainly see that this was a troubled woman. Just look at her response to the Trooper during the traffic stop. She was confrontational from the word go. Even after he informed her that he was only issuing a warning.
Put out the cigarette, receive the warning, and be on your way.
It's sad that she killed herself. But this was in no way law enforcement's fault.
Amen
I grew up in Austin, the eastern boundary being the railroad tracks at Kenton Ave. (4600 W). The first shithole that occurred with "new residents" began along the 3-flat apts. west of Cicero Ave. on Adams and Quincy Sts. in Resurrection parish. In the 1960's, it was a great, safe neighborhood. Today it's among the worst shitholes in Shiraq.
f you were interested in looking beyond skin color, you could plainly see that this was a troubled woman. Just look at her response to the Trooper during the traffic stop. She was confrontational from the word go. Even after he informed her that he was only issuing a warning.
Put out the cigarette, receive the warning, and be on your way.
It's sad that she killed herself. But this was in no way law enforcement's fault.
Amen
7/24/2015 10:27:00 PM
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Excellent comment.
ALSO - how many heard she had a ton of marijuana in her system? Looks like she tried to eat up what she had in the car, so she didn't get hit with "Possession".
How many News Channels mentioned that???? FOX did. Did WGN, ABC, NBC, and CBS mention that? That makes a HUGE difference in the way you look at things.
Anonymous said...
$2.4 million is the amount of money the state spent on incarcerating people for drug offenses from that block alone.
Think if that money was spent directly in the community instead wasting it on incarceration on the failed drug war.
7/24/2015 12:41:00 PM
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YES agreed. Spend the money directly in the community and build a big fence around it.
"Anyone who honestly believed any police dept would attempt clandestinely murder a person, in their custody, in this current anti-police climate, is a complete moron."
7/24/2015 10:27:00 PM
Does a plumber go out the door in the morning thinking "How can I bust the waste stack, flood the customer's house, and make my life as miserable as possible?"
Same thing here. Guy wanted to issue a warning and get on with the day.
"You could plainly see that this was a troubled woman."
Now coming out -- on top of self-reported PTSD, depression, epilepsy, previous suicide attempts, and THC in the tox screen -- "There were "approximately 25 to 30 horizontal faint ... linear superficial incised wounds" up to an inch long on her body. He said they were likely self-inflicted, weeks earlier."
"It's sad that she killed herself. But this was in no way law enforcement's fault."
"Amen." Agreed -- a lot of bad things come from people doing the Totentanz, The Dance Of Death with others, or with themselves. Like we had here, guy kept drumming on someone's car until the owner put the machete away and went and got a pistol instead. Compulsive, something bad going to blow but neither can stop.
Don't escalate. Take it down a notch, peeps. Exhale. Think a minute. Walk away. You might see the sun come up again if you try that. Respect others the way you want to be respected. Got to put some in to get some out. Show some love, some concern. Don't know what else to advise.
Where this is absent, that's where the police are forced to come in.
I have it on good authority that those incarcerated would have committed 2.5 million dollars with of crimes had they been on the loose.
Anonymous said...
Now tell us how many are voting on that block; and most importantly HOW did they vote. My guess is 100% for Obama in the last two Presidential races and all Democrat all day for any other election. The Political Class profit from this, while the Working Class pays for it."G"
7/24/2015 02:16:00 AM
That many criminals on that block I don't think they are allowed to vote. At least not yet legally! Ya, like that matters.........
How much do you think it would cost to level that block? In the end we may be ahead.
I believe that's about avg for the west and south side and little village as well
I have no problem paying taxes for the jails. It's paying for people's cell phones and lifelong welfare that I have a problem with.
By the way, Obuma spends more than $2.4MM of taxpayers dollars for date night with Moochelle.
Did she sign something reporting she had mental issues,in chicago mental issues discovered dont make lock up for fear of this so there is some responsibility and how many times has a officer pulled someone over smoking, is it their right to smoke in their own veh,again isn't that provoking an argument, for whoever said its not the responsibility of law enforcement,if she were a sexy blue eyed blond ,would this have happened a trooper with a knee to the back and taser in hand,I don't think so
Firstly, I'm gonna need you to use some gotdam PUNCTUATION, next time you post at me.
Your entire post was one big run on sentence. I get that you're likely a product of the Chicago Public School System. But so am I.
Next: No! She didn't sign anything stating she had mental issues.
Stop making shit up.
But, even if she had, once she kicked the Trooper as he attempted to arrest her, that shit wouldn't have mattered. Because she"d (A) RESISTED ARREST. & (B) Batterered a Police Officer.
Secondly, your right to smoke in your car ends, when your fuckin cigarette smoke starts wafting into my (the officer's) face.
Yes, I'm pretty damned sure that had a sexy, blue eyed White girl, behaved exactly as Ms Bland did, she would've gotten the exact same treatment.
Stop pulling shit outta your ass, in an attempt to blame the Police for this woman's death.
SHE, and SHE ALONE, caused herself to land in jail. SHE. and SHE ALONE,killed herself.
Obviously, you're a tad bit slow. So, I'll say it again:
Put Out Your Fuckin Cancer Stick...Get Your Warning...Be On Your Way
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"...Stop pulling shit outta your ass, in an attempt to blame the Police for this woman's death.
SHE, and SHE ALONE, caused herself to land in jail. SHE. and SHE ALONE,killed herself.
Obviously, you're a tad bit slow. So, I'll say it again:
Put Out Your Fuckin Cancer Stick...Get Your Warning...Be On Your Way..."
7/26/2015 11:55:00 AM
Cue:
"Judges" following Policemen around and holding up scorecards for traffic stops
and field interviews...
[7.0] [6.5] [5.9] [6.2]
"Yeah Officer, your presentation was rugged and you didn't have your round crown
hat on, so..."
The Race-Card & Cop Hater Industrial Complex is DESPERATELY gunning the motor
and spraying 100 foot fountains of BULLSHIT from the rear wheels, trying
to get ANY sort of traction out of this.
Lack of impulse control.
Inability to self-soothe.
The family covering up the "shame" of mental illness.
The old folklore about "black folks (and peoples) don't hurt
theyself cuz it be's a 'bomination 'gainst de Lawd!"
But goodness!
Don't pay any attention to the multiples of ten thousands of
young black men put in cemeteries by other black men.
The Truth Is Racist.
Right?
Once a block reaches the one million mark. This should trigger an instant drop of a MOAB.
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