Englewood Shooting
- A man was shot by police early Wednesday in the Englewood neighborhood after he pointed a gun at officers when he moved away from a crowd gathered there and officers told him to stop, police said.
About 1:40 a.m., officers on patrol saw a large crowd in the street in the 5600 block of South Morgan Street, according to a news release from the Chicago Police Department.
The officers saw someone separating from the crowd and holding his side as if he had a weapon, according to Chicago police Deputy Chief Carlos Velez.
The officers told him to stop, at which point he turned, pulled a gun and pointed it at the officers, according to police.
The officers then shot him. He was placed into custody and taken to a hospital. A weapon was found at the scene and taken in as evidence, Velez said.
The usual ghetto bullshit followed:
- After the shooting, an agitated crowd surrounded the crime scene tape police used to block off a stretch of South Morgan Street. Dozens of people gathered along a sidewalk by a vacant lot, yelling and swearing at about 35 police officers stationed on the other side of the tape.
“Y’all hiding behind your guns,” shouted a man in a blue shirt. “I’m mad as f---. I’m hurt. I’m hurt, bro.” A nearby man took him in his arms and tried to calm him down.
An officer addressed a different man yelling on the other side of the tape: “Brother, stop it, the f---ing show’s over.” He was met with even louder shouted curses.
Police officers widened the perimeter of the scene, stretching tape farther north on Morgan Street and farther west into the vacant lot.
“Y’all going to stereotype the f--- out of him,” said a man in a White Sox cap. “Y’all got Tasers, for what? Y’all got mace, for what?”
The crowd slowly grew smaller, but the man in the White Sox cap and the man in the blue shirt remained.
“Y’all shot first!” shouted the man in the blue shirt.
No shit we shot first dumbass - show us a rule, ordinance or law that says we have to take incoming fire before returning and we'll personally sign over a years worth of paychecks to your unwashed, uneducated, unemployed ass.
Good job to all involved.
Good job to all involved.
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posted by SCC at 12:21 AM
59 Comments:
Don't worry, Chicago's race baiters and social justice wanna-be's will find their Michael Brown or Freddie Gray before the winter.
I don't know who Y'all is but it appears y'all shot first not the PoPo LOL So I guess we need to find Mr. Y'all
This is the sentiment all over the nation. Ol girl down in Texas gives usual ghetto attitude and gets locked up, hangs herself and now they're treating it as a homicide investigation. The arresting officer in Texas is on desk duty. Are you fucking kidding!! Texas, Ferguson, Baltimore, Englewood, Austin...the list goes on and on. I wish there was a way to put these assholes on a "don't deserve service" list. You hate the police so much? Fine, don't call. Dude just broke into your crib and stole your x-box? Oh well. Joe just slammed into your ride? That's nice. Baby Momma drama....handle it. Dope dealers slinging on the corner? Sucks to be you.
Politicians pander to this. The rev'runs and race baiters blame everyone else, and the media perpetuates it.
"Y'all shot first."
And he raised, then aimed, his gun first.
Even in the old Wild West, the intent of such action was clear. And if you wait even a second longer...
And where is this guy's outrage at the idiot pointing a weapon at those who protect us? Ridiculous. No one heads out on duty looking to use their service weapon. This story exemplifies everything going wrong with Chicago.
To the ignorant ones. I will meet you off duty, I will give you mace and a taser, I will have my gun. We'll have a little contest to see who will come out on top. Would you like your ashes spread in the vacant lot you hang out in or in front of your favorite liquor store?
I dont know how you guys do it Or why Thanks so much Although Id let them kill each other.
Retired CPD here
Yes...
The Catered To Constituency and the media for some reason, has it in their hard
fucking heads that in these lethal force encounters, The Police are somehow
proscribed from shooting first.
We're supposed to take bullets, blades and beatings first before we're
grudgingly allowed to resort to firearms
Oh yeah...
You're a racist if you lay one of those death worshipping
mutts out with a magazine dump.
And the host of "after action reviewers" will of course question
you about why you dropped as many shots as YOU saw fit
to ensure YOU and YOUR fellow Officers are rightfully the only
ones to tell the tale.
Ignorant-Assed M/Fers On Scene Who "Seent Airy-Thang" say:
"Po-leece ain't havtah shoot him DAT hard! He ain't have no gun/
He wuz holdin' his sail fone/Po-leece put dat gun on him/Dey shot him
befo' he had a chance to put dat gun down..."
Et Cetera...
Ad Nauseam et Ad Infinitum.
These assholes feel they're so close to getting
"Police Duty to Retreat & De-Escalate" put on the books
that they can barely restrain themselves.
"Y'all cain't come up in heah! Leave us da fuck alone!
Git a cee-arra numbah on y'all ass then we gon' sue!"
Shit...
Lori Lightfoot promises every Copper a fair shake in this
"War on The Police" era.
Just like she did at IPRA?
"You Cops are so mean, bitter and full of hate."
Well yeah...
We earned the right to be.
“Y’all shot first!” shouted the man in the blue shirt.
**************************
Hurry up and tell Sparklefarts and Her Thighness about this. Maybe they can have the injustice department issue some white privilege rulings about police having to receive fire before shooting a felon...
As we back further into a safe corner, avoiding criminals.
You grab pepper spray, I'll pepper spray you, you try to fight me, I'll fight you. You spit on me I'll lock you up. You point a gun at me, I'll shoot you and kill you......you ignorant fucking piece of shit! These animals kill each other for far less and know it. Then stand there and redicule us? Because we want to go home to our families? I say FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU...YOU ANIMAL!!
Had enough
Off topic. The media is all over this case in Texas where the f/ b from chicago was stopped for a traffic violation,was arrested for assault of the trooper,his dash cam recorded some and a citizen recorded some,then 3 days later she hung herself in jail.She is black,trooper is white,so right off bat it's a race issue,watch the video,she is rude and ignorant and trooper raises his voice and tells her he will " light you up" (taser) ,now all the talking heads esp. The black ones are making a big deal on why the trooper got her out of her car,well I'll tell you why,the fucking Supreme Court said you can,now listen,for the people who don't know,you don't need a reason to get the driver or passengers out of a car on any Lawful stop,again you don't need a reason.
Pennsylvania v.Mimms--A police officer has the right to order the DRIVER of a stopped vehicle out of a car on any lawful stop.
Maryland v. Wilson-- Due to the inherent danger of traffic stops for a police officer,he MAY Order the passengers out of a car on any lawful stop.
That's the law of the land,information is power,use it,don't let another po or sgt tell you. Uh you need a reason to get m out,Noo you don't, don't be afraid to do your job,be informed,be smart and be safe.
after being up that late,how do they get up for work in the morning?
you will see in the future... the next 5 years society WILL crack down on the police, you shoot and hit someone else, or that old guy in a rocking chair 4 blocks down the road. You will be fired, no if's and's or but's.
If an not saying it, just look in the crystal ball. this is coming. Or you can test it, 5 years, give it a try... the game has changed gentlemen and gentlegirls-- by the way, add that charge to dickhead, not no more-- even though asshole set it up for you to shoot another dude, these states attorneys and judges are not hearing that. states attorney does not even know his ass from his mouth--- half those guys can not afford a decent suit, coming into court with a different pair of pants---WTF
Woo woo woo
So...
The Fibune is decaying to a skeleton so fast that they closed
loop-hole in their paywall to block the comments section from
being read eh?
It doesn't matter.
The "Y'all shot first" quote is pretty much self explainitory
as to the pathology afflicting these tribal "No Go Zones"
where these people (and folks) whine and cry for Police to
be strip-mined from other communities and deposited in
Englehood to act as armed baby-sitters for a population
mostly lacking In discipline, impulse control and adherence
to the law.
Hush up now!
Rahm just released another list and damnit, THIS TIME
You wild-assed Cops are going to be finally be put in
check!
2 major misconceptions alive and well within black communities in this country, 1. Police can't fire unless fired upon. 2. If you believe an arrest is unlawful and your civil rights are violated, you have the right to resist. The scary thing is that society is beginning to lean that way also.
For the Love of Christ ................It's soooo fucking simple follow the commands of the Officer and DON'T POINT A GUN AT HIM OR HER.............
Don't worry, Obamas gonna change things before he leaves office. He'll disarm the police in African/American neighborhoods to quell police shootings.
sounds like how she spoke to the police officer after she refused to sign a warning ticket for a traffic violation. "Don't Mess with TEXAS".
Looking at the news clips and pictures of that block there are better sidewalks and street lights than the ones in my Mt. Greenwood area! Been waiting for over a week for the city to fix the burned out street light that was reported by 311. Guess we don't have enough shots fired around there? It is good to see that all those tax dollars we pay are being used.....
There should be written laws that state one has to be washed, educated or gainfully employed to co-exist in civilized society!
We, as a society, are completely fucked.
There are lots and lots of idiots out there like the ones mentioned in this story. Sadly the media and politicians tend to often side with these goofs and also begin Monday morning quarterbacking and become ultra critical of every move made by the police.
"Local activist Jedidiah Brown told the crowd through a bullhorn..."
How many "local activists" can there be? What the hell kind of person keeps a freaking bullhorn handy all the time?
This is a way of life. The whole scene.
show us a rule, ordinance or law that says we have to take incoming fire before returning and we'll personally sign over a years worth of paychecks to your unwashed, uneducated, unemployed ass.
Careful SCC. That sounds like a challenge the department would love to answer.
Sickening, aren't the uneducated?
OT --
The kiddies are right. You should take a flashlight and check under the beds for monsters every night.
Man sneaks into New Jersey home, hides under bed for 3 days, police say
July 23, 2015
"A man sneaked into a central New Jersey home and hid under a bed in a spare bedroom for three days before the homeowner realized what had happened, police say.
"Spotswood police say Jason Hubbard was charged with burglary in the incident, which occurred in May but wasn’t made public until this week. He’s also charged with stealing electricity, according to NJ.com, because he allegedly charged his four cellphones in an electrical outlet underneath the bed.
"Authorities claim Hubbard entered the home on May 7 as the owner was taking out the garbage. He stayed in the spare room until the homeowner heard a noise and spotted Hubbard just before 9 p.m. on May 10..."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/23/man-sneaks-into-new-jersey-home-lives-under-bed-for-3-days-police-say/?intcmp=latestnews
It's too weird...
Han Solo shot first.
Just fence off the ghetto. Let those who dwell there run their show. (Psst. Cut from the public aid there too) They just waste the money on nonsense anyway.
Just cede the 'hoods. Give the free-fire zones back to the communities and simply withdraw all police presence. Let them take care of themselves. That's what they want, right?
56th and Morgan, lot of great memories. Use to live on that block. Don't remember people partying in the street celebrating whatever they were celebrating. Biggest thing that happened on the stret there was when Holmes School burned down. Course that was pre 1967.
Something happened around that time that caused things to change. Still can't figure out what it was. Neighborhood kind of looks the same but there is just something different about it. Some of the houses are still there, some are gone. Lot of vacant lots however no kids playing baseball in them. I guess people party in the streets now and that's okay. Old days police would have just pulled up and told you cut shit out or they'd put their foot up your ass. Don't remember too many shootings but a couple of guys stabbed when the Byrne Building began to change.
Any way it was nice reminiscing about the old hood. Actually got a call from Florida from an old neighbor who was thrilled to see the old block getting the publicity.
Might as well be talking to your fucking cat.
The people in the ghetto are so stupid, that maybe the CPD should consider getting about 1000 of those airbrushed shirts:
"STOP! Hands up! Or we will shoot you. Fer Real Bro. You feel me?"
Maybe then they'd understand that when the cops tell them to stop - they stop. Don't make furtive moves. And they won't get shot. OR, they can keep doing what they're doing and get shot.
The choice is theirs.
We need our leaders to tell criminals that their activity comes with certain risks, and if they don't like that, then they need to stop engaging in criminal activity.
>>>> '“Y’all shot first!” shouted the man in the blue shirt.' <<<<<
Yeah! What The F--k! The cops on TV don't do that!!
You're supposed to 'talk the gun out of his hand'. Explain to him 'nicely' that pointing a gun at the police will ruin his chance of getting in Medical School or that job as 'Chief Architect', and that he should 'think of his wife and three kids -- how they'll be 'hurt' by him going to prison for shooting a cop, that he'll miss their Prom and graduations from high school. That works 70% of the time.
But if that isn't working you have your partner distract him while you're talking to him so you can get close and wrestle the gun out of his hand.
And if that isn't an option and you have to shoot him: you shoot the gun out of his hand! (WHAT?? You can't do that?? Harrumph...then why are you cops!) And the last, last -- LAST -- resort is to shoot him in the arm. Then run to him, treat his wound, and apologize for *having* to shoot him.
{At one time or another I've seen all these stupid fucking comments posted on articles about police shootings.)
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Anywho, the whole block's outside at 2:00 a.m. raising fucking hell, and yet not one of them missed work this morning. Gee, I wonder how they do that??
The media always happens upon the most credible of witnesses. So credible they "don't need be givin' no statement to no polices". WBBM had one obvious expect community eye witness to the "whole thing" and tells the reporter, "he didn't see no gun in his hand".
It's a shame police have to risk their lives and careers in these battle zones and that just at the crime scene.
Why weren't the mothers on patrol out there to quiet things down.
Shocking that so many were up and out so late with work the next day and all.
Be careful what you say, that could be Obama's spawn.
Also, the new federal law will be out next week.
No shooting until fired upon!
J.J.
Wait to be shot at first? None of these assholes can shoot straight so chances are if we waited to be shot at, anyone 15 or more feet from the intended target would be killed! Tasers for what? Mace for what? How about don't carry a dam gun and especially don't reach for it when an officer is there. You take it to that level, we do the same. You point it at a cop, you may be making your final choice. Common sense people
Urban terrorists.
Anonymous said...
This is the sentiment all over the nation. Ol girl down in Texas gives usual ghetto attitude and gets locked up, hangs herself and now they're treating it as a homicide investigation. The arresting officer in Texas is on desk duty. Are you fucking kidding!! Texas, Ferguson, Baltimore, Englewood, Austin...the list goes on and on. I wish there was a way to put these assholes on a "don't deserve service" list. You hate the police so much? Fine, don't call. Dude just broke into your crib and stole your x-box? Oh well. Joe just slammed into your ride? That's nice. Baby Momma drama....handle it. Dope dealers slinging on the corner? Sucks to be you.
Politicians pander to this. The rev'runs and race baiters blame everyone else, and the media perpetuates it.
7/23/2015 12:39:00 AM
That officer in Texas should have just given her the ticket and said good bye. As a police officer in today's time and age you need to pick your battles. I had a similar situation a week ago. My partner who just got off probation wanted to forcibly remove the driver and long form her. I told him no and explained all of the reasons why that is not prudent.
7/23/2015 02:11:00 AM
Dear Mr. Law Professor:
You don't get it do you? You can do your job 100% right and still get in trouble. It doesn't matter anymore. This officer did his job correctly and look where it got him. His own department said he acted inappropriately and not according to their high standards. Wake up Law Professor, wake up. See the forest and not just the trees and birds.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The people in the ghetto are so stupid, that maybe the CPD should consider getting about 1000 of those airbrushed shirts:
"STOP! Hands up! Or we will shoot you. Fer Real Bro. You feel me?"
Better make them long sleeve tees...gotta cover the tatts.
Can we lock him into the "Y'all shot first" quote?
To all the police on this blog, I want to reassure you that even though the media likes to portray you in a negative light, and it feels like the most people are against you, please know this; there is a silent majority in this country. You may not hear us, you may not see us.
Remember that pizza joint in Indiana that was set up by the news reporter who posed the hypothetical question of whether or not they would cater a gay wedding? Do you remember the ensuing media firestorm and feigned outrage? It was everywhere. However, did you also notice that their Go Fund Me account grew to nearly $1 million dollars? It was through small donations; a $20 here, a $10 here. A few large donations, but the majority were much smaller. That came from us, the silent majority.
We're here. We're getting angry. Many of us have relatives and friends who are LEOs. You are not alone. Sometimes you get a glimpse of us, say, like the ordinary citizens who are standing guard outside the military recruiting offices.
So, stay strong out there. We need you.
29 and a day said...
I dont know how you guys do it Or why Thanks so much Although Id let them kill each other.
Retired CPD here
7/23/2015 01:07:00 AM
Rolling up N/B on King at Oakwood Blvd @ 2:00 a.m. and suddenly from Ida B, half a block away, it sounded like Nam all over again. My partner and I looked at each other, said fuck that, and did a slow U'eee and headed back S/B. Let em have at it! Not even a call came in because it was so common back then. The age of the Mac 10.
Retired and loving every moment.
Be safe.
Ot- owner of the stroller is suing the city. Didn't see that coming at all!!
"Ignorant-Assed M/Fers On Scene Who "Seent Airy-Thang" say:
"Po-leece ain't havtah shoot him DAT hard! He ain't have no gun/
He wuz holdin' his sail fone/Po-leece put dat gun on him/Dey shot him
befo' he had a chance to put dat gun down..."
7/23/2015 01:12:00 AM
"Official explanation" from the "local activists" on this one was that there was no gun.
"He just have a plastic cup of ackoho in his hand."
I understand that Englewood has a lot more officers working there recently to slow/stop the shootings.
It's a strong possibility that the foolish loudmouth is only alive because of the CPD, if I were one of the officers risking my life there I don't think I'd be assured that it was worth it.
"Dozens of people gathered along a sidewalk by a vacant lot, yelling and swearing at about 35 police officers stationed on the other side of the tape."
Safety tip -- that's enough officers that some of them can afford to turn their backs on the woofin and watch the rest of the area...
Check six. Stay safe.
Sounds like plenty of previous poleece contacts with F-1 in Texas.
Simply FUCKING AMAZING.............
You get pulled over you listen to the Officer and reply "Yes Sir or Ma'am and follow their instructions. You understand what you did wrong and go home to think about what you did and what you need to do in the future ............
Or you contest every word and command till you are clicked up and sitting in the back of a car, then go to Jail.........
You made the choice on how to act and then you can not understand why you are in Jail.....
Fuck you "activist" cowards , continue to set the example and wonder why it ends badly
"The officers told him to stop, at which point he turned, pulled a gun and pointed it at the officers..."
Web searches on this phrase and variations of it turn up between 45 and 182 repetitions of the phrase on the SCC site.
Like I said -- impervious. Seen it happen in right in front of you a dozen times, and still no learning takes place. None. Got to try the experiment for yourself.
TO: 7/23/2015 08:49:00 AM
Great memories, but then things changed. I lived at 57th and Halsted then 55th and Carpenter (Proud Vis High grad). I remember the sad night of June 5, 1968. I was 15 and just met Officer Peeler on the Boulevard, while he was working with a family friend. About three days later he was murdered around the corner. Devastating.
http://www.odmp.org/officer/reflections/10490-patrolman-henry-l-peeler
http://chicagofop.org/newsletter/2013/062013news.pdf Pg7
Retired
"Sounds like plenty of previous poleece contacts with F-1 in Texas."
7/23/2015 08:05:00 PM
THC came up on tox screen. Self-reported to have depression, PTSD, previous suicide attempt, "epilepsy," you name it.
56th & Morgan..Grew up around there. Saw the Holmes school burn down. Copper's kid torched it for some reason or other. But the Englewood Police certainly ruled with an iron fist and would put a boot up your ass if you just looked the wrong way. No crime back then...wonder why?
Retired CPD (007)
To all the police on this blog, I want to reassure you that even though the media likes to portray you in a negative light, and it feels like the most people are against you, please know this; there is a silent majority in this country. You may not hear us, you may not see us.
Remember that pizza joint in Indiana that was set up by the news reporter who posed the hypothetical question of whether or not they would cater a gay wedding? Do you remember the ensuing media firestorm and feigned outrage? It was everywhere. However, did you also notice that their Go Fund Me account grew to nearly $1 million dollars? It was through small donations; a $20 here, a $10 here. A few large donations, but the majority were much smaller. That came from us, the silent majority.
We're here. We're getting angry. Many of us have relatives and friends who are LEOs. You are not alone. Sometimes you get a glimpse of us, say, like the ordinary citizens who are standing guard outside the military recruiting offices.
So, stay strong out there. We need you.
7/23/2015 04:09:00 PM
Could not have said it better myself.
-Not a cop, just a mom
Anonymous Anonymous said...
56th and Morgan, lot of great memories. Use to live on that block. Don't remember people partying in the street celebrating whatever they were celebrating. Biggest thing that happened on the stret there was when Holmes School burned down. Course that was pre 1967.
Something happened around that time that caused things to change. Still can't figure out what it was. Neighborhood kind of looks the same but there is just something different about it. Some of the houses are still there, some are gone. Lot of vacant lots however no kids playing baseball in them. I guess people party in the streets now and that's okay. Old days police would have just pulled up and told you cut shit out or they'd put their foot up your ass. Don't remember too many shootings but a couple of guys stabbed when the Byrne Building began to change.
Any way it was nice reminiscing about the old hood. Actually got a call from Florida from an old neighbor who was thrilled to see the old block getting the publicity.
7/23/2015 08:49:00 AM
Hey old neighbor. Remember way back than, when Reginold Williams was the first black man to move into the apartment building at the end of that block? It mad national news when he said that the white people around there are "uneducated". Guess they weren't that dumb because they got the hell out of there. Wonder if all those current residents are his descendants?
To: 7/24/2015 10:22:00 AM
I remember Reginald Williams, possibly 1962. I also remember subsequent rioting. The police would go into John's Food at 5704 S. Halsted and get Fasano Plates. For the younger generation, these were pie pans the pies were delivered in to the store, and would be returned for a deposit. These pans fit pretty perfectly into a police hat. They were very sturdy and could protect some poor coppers head. There were no helmet's yet. I lived in Englewood until Dec. 1976. It was pre-school for the Police Academy. Several life experience degrees obtained at Garfield-Halsted University.
Retired
With this place out of control! Why do we have officers detailed out and all over but here? I'm bidding out of here.
"The police would go into John's Food at 5704 S. Halsted and get Fasano Plates. For the younger generation, these were pie pans the pies were delivered in to the store, and would be returned for a deposit. These pans fit pretty perfectly into a police hat. They were very sturdy and could protect some poor coppers head."
7/24/2015 04:22:00 PM
Yeah, pretty heavy stamped steel! I KNOW I had some, have to look, hope they are still around. Had those little holes in them to let the pies cool, and an old exchange phone number like "AB1-2345."
So you got "Onasaf" marked into your head for a while... >grin<
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